Great that you took the time and effort to put these on YT, really enjoyed it. Mind you 1990 does'nt seem too long ago for a 61 year old. From my current bikes, 6 in total, 3 are ZZR1100's. It is a classic and still gives total riding satisfaction. Rider aids are limited to an optional bible to put in your jacket pocket and rabbit foot on your key ring.
Glad you liked the video, it was worth the effort going by these nice comments, I had an FZR1000 EXUP back in the nineties and never got the chance to ride a ZZR1100 but they were a rocket ship for sure
Super video and great comparison of the two bikes. Bought my zzr100D5 in 1997, still have it today and still a super bike to ride with all day comfort. sits alongside it bigger brother, my zzr1400.
You absolute beauty for posting this on RUclips. Not only do I get to see Trevor Franklin and Rupert Paul when they were young, not the goatee-bearded old gits that they turned into but I get to revel in the beauty of those 1990s fairings. Thank you very much
Hey glad you liked the video, there is a better quality copy (no picture judder) on my channel, I realised after uploading this version that youtube playback was not very good
Thank you so much for posting this video. It’s a snapshot of my youth and takes me right back. I had a massive collection of PB magazines, as well as the others. Those were the days…
Thanks for uploading this video. A real blast from the past. What I noticed was how true the comments of the testers were compared to todays tests. They stated the real world capability of these machines were. These days testers will rant on about one machine being a couple of KG lighter than the other and how one is a couple of MPH faster although 99% of riders will never achieve even 50% of what the bike is capable of. Thanks again
Glad you like the video, it's made it worthwhile making the effort to convert it from VHS to digital and uploading it, I agree they were much more likely in the good old days to say it 'how it was' rather then being scared of upsetting the manufacturers and losing future test rides/reviews.
@@duckruls Ive got a Performance Bikes group test on VHS, its from 98 they take the R1, 916, GXR-R 750, and ZXR600 to France and give them a good thrashing on road and track, then at the end all the bikes get stolen. I'll have to try and upload it.
Hi ,I am recent owner of a d7 ,I have been watching everything zzr1100 for a long time now,as they was my hero bike from when I was young ,I drive handy for bout 4 miles ,she's a bit lumpy for them few miles ,after that she can be used for what she is,I have watched all yer videos ,
As a Performance Bikes reader from the 80s till about 2008, when i stopped giving a shit about new bikes, its good to see all the old names again, Trevor Franklin and Rupert Paul.
lol you sound like me I stop reading to the new shit just doesn't get me I like the zx 14 but at 20k $ Ill keep my old 90 fzr 1000 and my 97 yzf 750 and fix them up wish I still had my old 89 zx 10 in the group but I sold it years ago to buy my 90 fzr 1000 should have kept it
The ZZR was my dream bike as a young man... Lusted after them. Finally got a chance to 'meet my hero' with a long test ride of a lightly used model in '98. I was not disappointed. My friend had just bought the CBR1100XX and the 11 easily held its own alongside. Was also lucky enough to try a '91 EXUP and loved it. I'd have either of these beauties - Head says ZZR; heart screams Yamaha. Bikes of this era simply rock. No rider aids; perfect. Keeps this stubborn, old school biker happy. LOL
The CBR1100XX was a marvel, owned a 97 for 11 years and towards the end extensive mods, Gen 2 entire Busa front end, LSL bar kit, sold it at 115km. Had an 08 ZX14, brute, too much heat given off sold it but what a motor. Have a mint collector 96 ZX11D, very similar to the XX. I agree was not a bad bike in the 80's and 90's. FZ750 5 valve Genesis motor a fun bike. Also have new 2020 H2 SX SE , love it,
What an absolutely amazing video! They way they reviewed bikes back then was just brilliant, so comprehensive, so detailed. I loved the part where they did servicing, valve clearances etc. Shame today's reviews are usually performance talk and nothing else
I had the 89 FZR-1000, it made nearly as big a splash at the time, as the later R1. Great bike ! Loved it. I still remember booting it up from White River Junction VT/NH up to Montreal to see the F1 GP. It was raining, but still a great ride.
@@uhtred7860 lmao 🤣 To be honest, only half of them are all original and nearly perfect. Only Yamaha =1989 Fzr 1000, 2 1993 Honda Fireblades (900rr here in US) , 4 Kawasaki's = 1992 Zx7, 1993 Zx7, 1994 Zx7, 1995 Zx9r, all in Kawi green/wh/blu, 3 Suzuki Gsxr's= 2 1990 750's blu/wh and rd/blk/wh, 1992 600 w/1100 motor. That's all of them (for now)
Had both bikes when i was a younger man zzr better road bike exup more harsh to ride those days when one was younger top speeds use to do regular i was 23 when i had my zzr 1100 these days a 23 year old on a 170mph bear to think about now at 50 years of age still like to travel at pace but more wiser.
Glad you liked the video, I do have a couple more but they won't get past the RUclips copyright process, tried cutting bits out of the video but they still fail the test :-(
Never seen this, brilliant! Thanks for uploading👏🏼 This is around 1990 I guess? I was still tootling around on my Honda NS125F in 1990, but I had a KR1 in ‘92 followed by a ‘90 ZXR750 H2… I still have a ZXR H2 today! 😁🤙🏽
I had '89 FZR 1000. I had Vance & Hines put on a stage 1 kit and when I picked the bike up the service mechanic came out to meet me. First thing he asked...how fast was this thing before you bought it in!
Ive just bought an 87 FZR1000 Genesis as my next restoration project, Ive just finished a 86 GSX-R1100, one thing i have noticed with the Yamaha is the quality of finish and components is not as good as on the Suzuki, a lot more parts bin bits of other models which is surprising as it was an important flagship model, they could have made it a lot lighter too, lots of mild steel parts where they are alloy on the GSX-R.
brilliant. I'd agree with everything said about the FZR. I had a stage one dyno jet on mine and it took it up to 129 BHP on the rollers. Only 6HP of my brothers brand new R1😂 and I saw 129mph on the 1/4 at the bulldog bash beating an R1 4 times out of 6😂. even though I'm told and fat and I cant even get my feet on the lowered foot pegs I still have it sat in the garage. I'd never sell it
Ha ha that was the whole point of Performance Bikes magazine, nutty bikes and nutty riders, things are different nowadays, exceed the speed limit and everyone is crying and want you strung up 🤣🤣
@@samuelkearney880 Well its bit of a moot point as the video is 30 years old, but a quick google tells me Rupert Paul and Mark Forsyth (the 2 riders I believe) are both still going strong 👍👍
That is awesome, I had loads of pb mags from the 90s and remember them testing the fzr using garfield toys as knee sliders, that is the reason why I bought an exup. however I have managed to do a 1/4mile time of 10.9@127mph at Santa pod a few years ago. Either I am that good or Santa pod is grippier. I will probably opt for the latter. 👍👍👍
I just mostly enjoyed watching this so interesting video comparison, between the ZZR1100 and the FZR1000. I own a 1989 FZR1000 and it's a rocket. The previous owner, inverted the forks, for the racetrack. the bike easily tops 200mph. I don't know, what makes it so fast, but I sure enjoy every second of it! Go...... Yamaha!!!
Hi, the commentator is Keith Huewen, former professional Grand Prix motorbike road racer, and ex sports commentator with BT Sport where he primarily commentated on MotoGP
This is why Kaws ruled the streets and Yamahas owned the tracks for a while. As a Kaw man, the only bikes we could ogle (even though I ogled them all) were FZR's. They were just detuned track bikes and they sounded like a bobcat on meth straight out of the factory. They just weren't the bikes you were going to ride all day on the streets. That was Ninja territory all day & all night long. I wouldn't kick any liter superbike out of the bed back in the 90's. That was just a magical time where they went from fairinged cafe racers to their own sub-species with MASSIVE exposed aluminum frames. There was a time where the tech & infrastructure of bikes were being put on display and not in a naked way, but a more menacing peeking out from under the body work way (suspensions, exhausts, etc...). That was bike makers using a little Sun Tzu to intimidate the competition. Today, everybody just rides along in mixed packs, but back then, the rivalries back then were grimy! 😂
Lets face it, the ZRR is not a sports bike. I have had 3 ZZR1100's, a 1200 and finally a 1400. Also owned a 89 FZR (same time as the ZZR) and Thunderace, if I was going for blast the Yam won, for more power and two up, the ZZR. Sold the Yams eventually and kept a ZZR simply as it was more practical, eventually realised I was going to hurt myself trying to ride the ZZR like a sports bike. Bought a Triumph 955i for that
They were all restricted because of the uk not sure when they recently changed that restriction do to the zx14 and h2r being 200+ but I read an article somewhere that the zx11 ended up catching a Hayabusa on the salt flats not to long ago the 11 is still my favorite ride I have 2 in the garage I need to clean carbs a get back on the road
...btw the kwaka was so born on the racetrack, infact every fast car and bike was born on the track that kwaka has more track lineage than that yamy. It's just dumbed down to tour.
Horseshit shiny man hole covers pot holes,dripping diesel,large ruts left by HGVS and buses can all make for terrifying surprises,back to the point about being over powered, personally I find the bigger the bike the safer I feel,power can get you out of situations as well, When was the last time you saw a Rolls-Royce being ragged round country lanes flat out sideways ? Personally I’ve never seen that happen,just because the power is there doesn’t mean you have to redline every gear And the race replica motorcycle is just one of many other styles of bike ,from sport super sport ,grand tourers An interesting question would be for me , “ which bike has the best all round features,power but comfy,not disgaurding good looks comfy ride with plenty of umph
ZZR 1100 still my dream bike ! The true Legend !😍😍😍
Brilliant video. Love seeing my better half Mr Franklin in his younger, more agile days!
Its an honour to have your comment, is he still mad or has he calmed down now?
Trevs a legend!
Great that you took the time and effort to put these on YT, really enjoyed it. Mind you 1990 does'nt seem too long ago for a 61 year old. From my current bikes, 6 in total, 3 are ZZR1100's. It is a classic and still gives total riding satisfaction. Rider aids are limited to an optional bible to put in your jacket pocket and rabbit foot on your key ring.
Glad you liked the video, it was worth the effort going by these nice comments, I had an FZR1000 EXUP back in the nineties and never got the chance to ride a ZZR1100 but they were a rocket ship for sure
Jajaja...absolutely mate! Just beyond fascinating motorcycles.
Which model of ZZR S do you have . ?
Super video and great comparison of the two bikes. Bought my zzr100D5 in 1997, still have it today and still a super bike to ride with all day comfort. sits alongside it bigger brother, my zzr1400.
You absolute beauty for posting this on RUclips. Not only do I get to see Trevor Franklin and Rupert Paul when they were young, not the goatee-bearded old gits that they turned into but I get to revel in the beauty of those 1990s fairings. Thank you very much
Hey glad you liked the video, there is a better quality copy (no picture judder) on my channel, I realised after uploading this version that youtube playback was not very good
Thank you so much for posting this video. It’s a snapshot of my youth and takes me right back. I had a massive collection of PB magazines, as well as the others. Those were the days…
Glad you liked the video, it sure is a blast from the past and a good one at that!
Thanks for uploading this video. A real blast from the past. What I noticed was how true the comments of the testers were compared to todays tests. They stated the real world capability of these machines were. These days testers will rant on about one machine being a couple of KG lighter than the other and how one is a couple of MPH faster although 99% of riders will never achieve even 50% of what the bike is capable of. Thanks again
Glad you like the video, it's made it worthwhile making the effort to convert it from VHS to digital and uploading it, I agree they were much more likely in the good old days to say it 'how it was' rather then being scared of upsetting the manufacturers and losing future test rides/reviews.
@@duckruls Ive got a Performance Bikes group test on VHS, its from 98 they take the R1, 916, GXR-R 750, and ZXR600 to France and give them a good thrashing on road and track, then at the end all the bikes get stolen. I'll have to try and upload it.
@@uhtred7860 I have more videos as well but unfortunately cannot upload to RUclips as they get flagged for copyright issues
@@duckruls Oh shit yeah, i forgot about that.
Hi ,I am recent owner of a d7 ,I have been watching everything zzr1100 for a long time now,as they was my hero bike from when I was young ,I drive handy for bout 4 miles ,she's a bit lumpy for them few miles ,after that she can be used for what she is,I have watched all yer videos ,
As a Performance Bikes reader from the 80s till about 2008, when i stopped giving a shit about new bikes, its good to see all the old names again, Trevor Franklin and Rupert Paul.
lol you sound like me I stop reading to the new shit just doesn't get me I like the zx 14 but at 20k $ Ill keep my old 90 fzr 1000 and my 97 yzf 750 and fix them up wish I still had my old 89 zx 10 in the group but I sold it years ago to buy my 90 fzr 1000 should have kept it
I had these two and my ZZR1100 was the 147 bhp version. Loved them. Ragged them and got chased by blue lights many times and a helicopter lol 😅
Which did you like the best? the ZZR or the EXUP?
@@duckruls The ZZR .... Had the ZX10 before that and many more.
Of course you did..🙄
I had the model before the EXUP, the FZR1000 genesis, currently have its great great grandson, an 01 YZF R1, and its main rival a 86 GSX-R1100.
The ZZR was my dream bike as a young man... Lusted after them. Finally got a chance to 'meet my hero' with a long test ride of a lightly used model in '98. I was not disappointed. My friend had just bought the CBR1100XX and the 11 easily held its own alongside. Was also lucky enough to try a '91 EXUP and loved it. I'd have either of these beauties - Head says ZZR; heart screams Yamaha. Bikes of this era simply rock. No rider aids; perfect. Keeps this stubborn, old school biker happy. LOL
I was an EXUP fan boy and luckily owned one for 4 years back in the day.
@@duckruls Nice one man. Beautiful bikes.
OMFG Talk about a blast from the past. I’ve seen this before and I bought a C1 ZZR 1100 partly due to this. I miss PB, they were great times.❤️👍
I went the opposite way and had an EXUP, both great bikes for sure
I own a zzr1100 and it’s a handful if you desire but it can be very easy to tool around town. I mostly use it as a sports tourer.
This video was phenomenal. So 90s , so retro, so superb ❤
I've uploaded a better version of the video without the juddering playback, check it out
@@duckruls thanks for letting me know ! Will check it out asap !
I've had CBRXX1100, ZX12R and ZX14 ,I currently ride a 92' ZX-11 and love it!!!! but I also cant think of a bad 80's or 90's bike! I loved my FZ750.
The CBR1100XX was a marvel, owned a 97 for 11 years and towards the end extensive mods, Gen 2 entire Busa front end, LSL bar kit, sold it at 115km. Had an 08 ZX14, brute, too much heat given off sold it but what a motor. Have a mint collector 96 ZX11D, very similar to the XX. I agree was not a bad bike in the 80's and 90's. FZ750 5 valve Genesis motor a fun bike. Also have new 2020 H2 SX SE , love it,
I just picked up a 92’ zzr1100 also! Wicked fast.
What an absolutely amazing video! They way they reviewed bikes back then was just brilliant, so comprehensive, so detailed. I loved the part where they did servicing, valve clearances etc. Shame today's reviews are usually performance talk and nothing else
Glad you enjoyed the video, it sure is a very good review and better than anything you get nowadays!
Yes sir! It's just beautiful my friend!
I had the 89 FZR-1000, it made nearly as big a splash at the time, as the later R1. Great bike ! Loved it. I still remember booting it up from White River Junction VT/NH up to Montreal to see the F1 GP. It was raining, but still a great ride.
Thank you for showing this. I have the exact same Fzr 1000. 90's era bikes are amazing, that's why I currently own 10 ly. Lol
Glad you enjoyed the video
Ok ya lucky bastard, what you got? dont leave us hanging.
@@uhtred7860 lmao 🤣 To be honest, only half of them are all original and nearly perfect. Only Yamaha =1989 Fzr 1000, 2 1993 Honda Fireblades (900rr here in US) , 4 Kawasaki's = 1992 Zx7, 1993 Zx7, 1994 Zx7, 1995 Zx9r, all in Kawi green/wh/blu, 3 Suzuki Gsxr's= 2 1990 750's blu/wh and rd/blk/wh, 1992 600 w/1100 motor. That's all of them (for now)
@@ricklukic104 make a video sounds very interesting😅
@@freeair7292 I actually just might!!
That dyno handicapped the kwaka unless they fed the ram.
Had both bikes when i was a younger man zzr better road bike exup more harsh to ride those days when one was younger top speeds use to do regular i was 23 when i had my zzr 1100 these days a 23 year old on a 170mph bear to think about now at 50 years of age still like to travel at pace but more wiser.
This original video is at least 30 years old! Happy daze, back when i were a lad (30)!
Tq for uploading this vid. Hope you got more. Remember this guys from PB ..trev, kevin, mark and rupert. What ablast from the past
Glad you liked the video, I do have a couple more but they won't get past the RUclips copyright process, tried cutting bits out of the video but they still fail the test :-(
Never seen this, brilliant! Thanks for uploading👏🏼 This is around 1990 I guess? I was still tootling around on my Honda NS125F in 1990, but I had a KR1 in ‘92 followed by a ‘90 ZXR750 H2… I still have a ZXR H2 today! 😁🤙🏽
Glad you liked the video, there is a better quality (no picture judder) on my channel
I had an FZR 1000 exup. Lo Ed it quick as and never had an issue with it. Great bike from back then.
@@ItsMeeLeeDee same here, a great all round bike 👍
i used to have this on Video tape and also Video Nasty one . great memories when i had my Bikes .
I had '89 FZR 1000. I had Vance & Hines put on a stage 1 kit and when I picked the bike up the service mechanic came out to meet me. First thing he asked...how fast was this thing before you bought it in!
Sounds great, sure are great bikes then and now.
Love watching these old videos with the demise of Practical Sportsbikes magazine. PB was my era. Is that a posh sounding Keith Huewen commentating?!
thanks for that wonderful video !😁
Glad you liked it, it's a great video for sure :-)
I was 18 on a cheap CBX750F. Mad times.
Crikey, I remember watching this way back when it came out.
Time flies bye for sure!
8:43 - I love the attitude!
Lol. Picked up a 1990 ZX-11 C3 bored out. yes heavy but man does she snort on acceleration. And the sound is awesome...
8:00 anyone know the name of that road?
i had a 1986 FZ600. rock solid bike. currently have. 2001 ZZR1200. it’s always breaking down.
I had an FZR1000 EXUP back in the day and it was also a rock solid bike, for someone with no talent like myself it made me a confident fast rider
Ive just bought an 87 FZR1000 Genesis as my next restoration project, Ive just finished a 86 GSX-R1100, one thing i have noticed with the Yamaha is the quality of finish and components is not as good as on the Suzuki, a lot more parts bin bits of other models which is surprising as it was an important flagship model, they could have made it a lot lighter too, lots of mild steel parts where they are alloy on the GSX-R.
brilliant. I'd agree with everything said about the FZR. I had a stage one dyno jet on mine and it took it up to 129 BHP on the rollers. Only 6HP of my brothers brand new R1😂 and I saw 129mph on the 1/4 at the bulldog bash beating an R1 4 times out of 6😂. even though I'm told and fat and I cant even get my feet on the lowered foot pegs I still have it sat in the garage. I'd never sell it
That boy on the Yamaha is lethal. There was few times he was taking chances on the road and if a car had have been coming he would have been scrubbed.
Ha ha that was the whole point of Performance Bikes magazine, nutty bikes and nutty riders, things are different nowadays, exceed the speed limit and everyone is crying and want you strung up 🤣🤣
@@duckruls I don't mind a bit of speed but it's his funeral and someone's bonnet if he gets caught on the wrong side of the road.
@@samuelkearney880 Well its bit of a moot point as the video is 30 years old, but a quick google tells me Rupert Paul and Mark Forsyth (the 2 riders I believe) are both still going strong 👍👍
That is awesome, I had loads of pb mags from the 90s and remember them testing the fzr using garfield toys as knee sliders, that is the reason why I bought an exup. however I have managed to do a 1/4mile time of 10.9@127mph at Santa pod a few years ago. Either I am that good or Santa pod is grippier. I will probably opt for the latter. 👍👍👍
Just bought a ZZR1100, won’t be riding it like that tho...
Go on....you know you want to :-)
Me too, and I won’t either
@@Womanwolfrider cool. What you bought?
@@gdfggggg D2 blue and teal colour way
A young Trevor Franklin before he was known as Fatty Franklin!
Thanks for the upload!
I just mostly enjoyed watching this so interesting video comparison, between the ZZR1100 and the FZR1000. I own a 1989 FZR1000 and it's a rocket. The previous owner, inverted the forks, for the racetrack. the bike easily tops 200mph. I don't know, what makes it so fast, but I sure enjoy every second of it! Go...... Yamaha!!!
Awesome :) ...and isn't that Murray Walker commenting?
Hi, the commentator is Keith Huewen, former professional Grand Prix motorbike road racer, and ex sports commentator with BT Sport where he primarily commentated on MotoGP
Thanks for uploading 👏
My pleasure glad you enjoyed the video
Have them both re mapped to Japanese spec,they are tamed down for the U,K market
This is why Kaws ruled the streets and Yamahas owned the tracks for a while. As a Kaw man, the only bikes we could ogle (even though I ogled them all) were FZR's. They were just detuned track bikes and they sounded like a bobcat on meth straight out of the factory. They just weren't the bikes you were going to ride all day on the streets. That was Ninja territory all day & all night long. I wouldn't kick any liter superbike out of the bed back in the 90's. That was just a magical time where they went from fairinged cafe racers to their own sub-species with MASSIVE exposed aluminum frames.
There was a time where the tech & infrastructure of bikes were being put on display and not in a naked way, but a more menacing peeking out from under the body work way (suspensions, exhausts, etc...). That was bike makers using a little Sun Tzu to intimidate the competition. Today, everybody just rides along in mixed packs, but back then, the rivalries back then were grimy! 😂
Lets face it, the ZRR is not a sports bike. I have had 3 ZZR1100's, a 1200 and finally a 1400. Also owned a 89 FZR (same time as the ZZR) and Thunderace, if I was going for blast the Yam won, for more power and two up, the ZZR. Sold the Yams eventually and kept a ZZR simply as it was more practical, eventually realised I was going to hurt myself trying to ride the ZZR like a sports bike. Bought a Triumph 955i for that
I can promise you that any of my friends in the last 40 years held on a grab rail on the back would have been off the back that is a promise.
Zzr1100d 6 .is the bike I've had from new 20k mileage. 1998...I wouldn't get rid of it for nobody
125 bhp voluntary power limit? wtf is he talking about? Does it mean my D6 (1997) zzr1100 imported from the UK is restricted ?
They were all restricted because of the uk not sure when they recently changed that restriction do to the zx14 and h2r being 200+ but I read an article somewhere that the zx11 ended up catching a Hayabusa on the salt flats not to long ago the 11 is still my favorite ride I have 2 in the garage I need to clean carbs a get back on the road
Created by a former Ringling Brother's employee?
Sorry don't know who the Ringling Brothers are?
...btw the kwaka was so born on the racetrack, infact every fast car and bike was born on the track that kwaka has more track lineage than that yamy. It's just dumbed down to tour.
Y love yamaha Fzrr1000+750❤❤❤😅
I AM Kawa 1100
r u actually tho??
I’m a Kawakebab, I leave a chicken sandwich and a macca D in the dust.
The Zx1100 is not a track bike
Horseshit shiny man hole covers pot holes,dripping diesel,large ruts left by HGVS and buses can all make for terrifying surprises,back to the point about being over powered, personally I find the bigger the bike the safer I feel,power can get you out of situations as well,
When was the last time you saw a Rolls-Royce being ragged round country lanes flat out sideways ? Personally I’ve never seen that happen,just because the power is there doesn’t mean you have to redline every gear
And the race replica motorcycle is just one of many other styles of bike ,from sport super sport ,grand tourers
An interesting question would be for me , “ which bike has the best all round features,power but comfy,not disgaurding good looks comfy ride with plenty of umph
There is no performance comparison in the US....sorry it's not that Yamaha.
Zzr1100 would have needed new engine after break in. Fzr1000 is probably running till date with its original engine 😀😁.