I've been crocheting for 10 years and when I asked her if this was cross stitched and she said no, I spent hours and hours banging my head against a wall trying to figure out what she had done. Really disappointed to hear that it was cross stitch all along. If I knew about the pattern release I totally would have bought it and then promptly asked for my money back. I wish she had just been honest.
i feel like a lot of times in crafting you can achieve the same result in different ways, so if i were in your position i'd be like "ok it looks like cross stitch, creator says it's not, but like i totally can achieve the same result with cross stitching" and go on my merry way to cross stitch a pillow lol not to mention that cross stitching is easier than whatever techinque for color change in crochet so i'd feel very smug about finding a more efficient way to make the thing but i get why you're upset too, it's fun to discover new techniques, especially when they offer neater results, must've been infuriating to think that such technique exist and you can't access it only to realize it didn't even exist in the first place
@@nubiferanotareally the frustration lies in the creator “gate keeping” what she thought was a revolutionary idea that has been around for quite some time and misleading people
Exactly the same thought process here. I thought at the start of this video that we'd learn about some new type of crochet that gives a more square cross-stitch-y look, maybe a variation on puff stitch or each "square" being two stitches in some variation of mosaic crochet, but all we got was disappointment.
@@nubiferanota about your first paragraph I get what you're saying but that's not really the point. Lying in order to gatekeep sucks even if people can find workarounds :( and yeah you get it - I would love to cross stitch but it hurts my hands, which is why I was so excited to find a crochet technique that replicates it :(
I took one look and immediately recognized it as cross stitch... am I weird?? My grandmother used to do projects in this manner, and it's how I "cheat" my own as well. Color work is hard, embroidery is easy 😂😅 My mom is the color expert in the family.
yeah me, too. I‘m not even that much into crochet. Using it on top of plain crochet is also not a secret technique. I‘m surprised so many didn‘t recognize it and became sooo upset :O
100% dude, I got confused when I saw 'crochet' instead of 'cross stitching' in the title. I was cross stitching as I watched the video though so being a cross stitcher and having my project right in front of me might have helped with me identifying it haha
I feel like the problem here is selling a pattern and advertising it as a "crochet pattern" when, in reality, the main design of it is a crossstitch pattern
Nah. The description CLEARLY says "cross stitch color changes." And the base is crochet, so . . . If I designed something knitted and it used duplicate stitch for the design, I'd advertise it as a knitted design.
I could understand but it clearly states crocheting a pillow and then using crossstitch on it. All that needed to be done add some more words and clarify.
@@EsmereldaPea she had been claiming she had a special variation of the crochet cross stitch (aka the sc used for amigurumi) and that it wasn't just cross-stitch on top. Whenever someone questioned that it was cross stitch she would get really defensive and say it wasn't.
"Color changes" is a crochet term. While you can change colors in cross stitch it's just not a term in the same way. People who crochet and cross stitch are aware of this@@EsmereldaPea
@Smulenify - that's a different matter altogether. I was commenting solely on the comment that it's disingenuous to have advertised this as crocheted. IMO, since the description says the colorwork is cross-stitched, no harm no foul on that one point. It's not unusual to use such techniques in crochet or knit pieces. I just designed a hat that uses a combination of stranded knitting, intarsia, AND duplicate stitch for the colorwork. There are plenty of other issues with this whole thing: poorly/incompletely written pattern, as you said, misleading people about the techniques used, etc. I think those who ascribe such mistakes to naivete are right. The fact that she offered refunds with no argument whatsoever IMO shows she had no malice in the things she did. Hard lesson to learn, but she sure will never forget it.
As someone who loves to cross-stitch, I don’t understand why she tried to distance from it. Cross-stitch is a valuable and fun craft, and though many probably think it’s easier than crocheting so anyone can do it, I can assure you I’ve seen people royally screw up cross-stitching, so it does take skill. I love crocheting and cross-stitching, so I love the idea of patterns that have both in them. Would love to get one with some kind of spooky theming.
Dude I’m noticing a lot of people having kind of an attitude about cross stitch! Like don’t devalue that art form, your beef is not with cross stitch, it’s with this scammy creator!
I’ve been asked if my cross stitches are paintings. They can be incredibly detailed and difficult. If you are one or two stitches off the entire pattern will be off.
I started following her after I saw her stardew pillow. I’ve been crocheting since I was 9 and cross stitching off and on almost as long. She definitely lied. I was going to try it as a cross stitching over a plain bag, but watching her videos and reading comments she stated over and over it was crochet ONLY with color changes. Especially the videos. She showed her color changing, had it at a weird angle, and would cut the video so it was impossible to see what she was doing. So I lost hours trying to get the tension and color change right. I knew it was some type of trick, but I was in denial, and still willing give her the benefit of the doubt. I understand being protective of your patterns. So when the pattern came out I was going to buy it. . . then I saw the price. I’m not angry just annoyed/disappointed lol. It sucks, but I feel better knowing I’m not the only one who felt this way.
exactly. why are you charging people money if you can’t even set aside a few minutes to write your own description of the product? or at the very least, if you’re going to use chatgpt proofread it afterwards and add necessary information like an actual materials list.
dude at least if it was like a 2 dollar pattern id be fine w it but like FIFTEEN DOLLARS???? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCKK OMG like you would genuinely have to live under a rock to ever think that pattern deserves that price…
@@arsey1833 There are several patterns on Ravelry alone that I wonder why someone would think they could charge for them. I'm talking basic or patterns an experienced crochet/knitter (which was the case here) could figure out using the pictures. As you said, $2-$5 is worth not having to go through the trial and error on most. For $15, I expect to have to pay attention for more than half the project. The last pattern I bought at that price did not live up to this expectation so I haven't bought any for the moment (it was basically a Tunisian stitch pattern with increases.)
@@trixabellianThat's totally fair. Personally, I wouldn't pay that kind of money for a pattern that won't tell me the material requirements before purchase tho
Before she realized the pattern, there were comments who said it looked like it was cross stitch, and she answered them that it wasn't, but a "special technique"... She straight up lied
The worst part of that is that cross stitch over knitted or crocheted fabric is not a new technique. In fact, with knitting, doing embroidery over top for smaller color changes is advised. And cross stitch is one of the oldest forms of embroidery around. It dates way back to like the medieval period. Maybe she pioneered the cross stitch over the amiguri stitch style for crochet, but she definitely didn't pioneer either technique.
@jamiecoull7081 I was thinking the same thing. Duplicate stitch in knitting is sometimes even used for larger blocks of color in situations where intarsia just wouldn't work. For example, I recently saw a pattern for an in-the-round Palestine flag hat in which the red was done entirely in duplicate stitch. That's the only way to do it without knitting the hat flat, then seaming OR doing intarsia in the round, which is a pretty advanced technique.
I think this is the main point of the whole fiasco. There is a difference between gatekeeping and flat out lying. People used to ask her all the time if it was cross stitch and she would respond that it was a different crochet technique and she uses yarn under stitches. Even had clips of videos of her pretending to color change the traditional crochet way. Led people on for months building suspense for this new amazing technique she had for people to find out it was just cross stitch after all. Then she made something up about how she didn't see it as cross stitch because she doesn't identify as a cross stitcher???? The fact is she LIED!
Made me laugh so much for no real reason. Just made me think like… “I don’t identify as queer, I identify as cishet, but I am nonbinary AFAB dating a woman. But I identify as cishet.” 😅 I get what they’re saying but agree it was quite something lol
It sounds to me like she just decided to start sewing her colors onto her items because she liked how it looked, and settled on techniques that more or less _amounted_ to cross stitch without ever actually Studying Cross Stitch or even realizing that’s what she was doing. And that does make some sense! The basics of cross stitch are fairly intuitive, and most techniques are standard because they make sense or work well. But I can understand needing an outside perspective to put two and two together, if it’s not something that was really on your radar.
I kind of understand the vibe, just from my own experience. I learned some really rudimentary embroidery as a child and I use my basic understanding in my cosplays to create accent stitching and simple designs and just generally to make it pop. I prefer it over using vinyl or fabric overlays unless it’s a very large design, and have been told it looks very unique because of that. That being said, I very much do not follow extensive embroidery technique short of “thick thread make pretty line” so I don’t often describe what I do as embroidery since I know anyone who actually does embroidery would have an aneurism at my handiwork. That being said, whenever I am asked in a professional setting (when I make theater costumes or when I’m in a competition) I describe it more or less as “embroidery influenced stitch work” since it’s kind of a Frankenstein approach. I have the verbiage necessary for that approach, though. While it’s possible that she had poor intentions and deliberately mislead on her cross-stitching, I think it’s just as possible she thought of the vague concept of “let’s stitch yarn overtop of my crochet”, didn’t know that was a whole ass concept in of itself, and only finally looked into it and realized she done goofed after everything already started to get out of hand. Like I said, though, it could also be intentional misleading and now trying to double back, which would be on her. But I can definitely see where she’s coming from if it was otherwise a well intended mistake.
@@patperrier9640 She doesn't litterally no one asked her too they just asked her to be more descriptive and make it clear she used different techniques that are not normally in crochet and asked her to be clearer about what techniques she's using
Yeah that’s the kicker, none of this would be half so bad if she hadn’t objectively lied. That she says she didn’t think she was being deceptive because her intention wasn’t to deceive makes it worse and is kinda toxic.
I find it unbelievable that she thought something as common as cross stitching on crochet was a unique secret of her trade... like it was something she invented.
For me, it's the creating the Reels/TikTok content that made it SEEM like she was doing a typical crochet color change. You don't just accidentally make a Reel, ya know? Lots of thought and effort goes into something like that shot for shot. Def a bummer to hear that, this had been on my crochet list for a while, very interesting to see this pop up in my YT recs and find there was such tea around this design 😅 Also, omg the ending with the Marnie rant KILLED ME! Perfection.
There were literally videos where she would have had to, off camera, UNDO work and then redo it in order to obscure the fact that it wasn't crochet. It's so shady! This video doesn't seem to convey the extent of the effort she put in to mislead people.
I don't get their hang-ups with "identifying" as a cross-stitcher when they seemingly do cross-stitch on all of their crochet and believed it to be their "trade-secret."
They just could have something like mixed fiber arts or something similar. But the way she describes it, it sounds like cross stitch is something nasty and undesirable.
I think part of it is just that "cross stitching" in common parlance does not just include doing those particular stitches, but also like... working with very specific kinds of materials with a result that really doesn't resemble what she's doing? Like, if someone followed her for cross-stitch content they'd ALSO have been like "look you have to crochet a whole thing first, you can't call this a cross-stitch pattern". Embroidering details on crochet is more common than crocheting bases for conventional cross-stitch.
I AM a crocheter, I've been doing it since I was 7, and I INSTANTLY knew the second I saw the pillow she had done stitch work to make the image rather than actual crochet. It's pretty obvious, but I get people may not have realized it because she uses very puffy yarn to hide the fact.
No idea if it's true but I've seen people saying that whenever anyone asked if it was cross Stitch shed deny it and get defensive, so it wouldn't be too much of a jump for get fans to assume they were getting a new colour technique in the pattern
I think the monetization argument is very interesting because it makes me think of how people sell fanart at conventions and such, or do art commissions of copyrighted characters. My immediate reaction was “who cares” to that argument lol
Honestly just that. I know for a fact that some people (good omens’ Neil Gaiman is coming to mind) really love seeing all the art people make of the fandom.
Fanart is different because you are taking characters and drawing them in a unique new way. You are putting your own style on it. With this cross stitch they are taking pixel art that was made by Concerned Ape and selling that. It wouldn’t be as bad if they were only selling the cushions, but when you sell a cross stitch pattern, it is literally just pixel art, and so it’s unfair to sell that when it’s just stolen from an artist
Yeah, I agree with caoimhedoesstudf above, fanart and media-inspired art/creations requires a certain amount of creativity and personal art style that diffirentiates it from the original, this cross stitch is straight up copying the pixel art of the game
Yeah fan projects and art is fanwork. And disagreeing with the replies above, making it in a fiber craft is transformative in a way, it uses the pixel art as a blueprint but still requires adaptation.
It's also why vlog brothers never trademarked dftba because legally they'd be required to police it from corporations but also individuals and they love what individuals make with it.
guys they just didnt want people to realize how easy it would be to do it themselves. pretending like the cross stitched pattern was something special was just to trick people into wanting to buy it instead
Considering they were selling the cross stitched pillow for what, over $100? Not sure I'd sell a cross stitched sleeping mask for $20. (And it looks darn good. My owlbear sleep mask with minky backing.
And it IS a scam. The definition is "a dishonest plan for making money or getting an advantage, especially one that involves tricking people" she tricked people
Lmao yeah I’m in the middle of recreating one of her bags because she showed videos of exactly how she makes them. It’s literally just 50 x 50 single crotchets with yarning under 😅Even got the exact same zippers from Amazon.
i like how she basically stole his pixel art and then said i can make money off of this but you guys can't. also im pretty sure Eric Barone said hes okay with people selling stardew valley merch on a small scale
I checked out of curiosity since a lot of indie developers are cool with small scale sales and the only info I could find was from 2017 on Twitter. He explicitly stated he was OK with fanmade, small scale sales. Can't see why he'd change his mind and didn't see anything about someone getting takedowns despite there now being official merch so I have to assume he's still cool with it. Also yes the trademark info says you need to get permission but that's to reserve the right to go after big companies that make bank. If a creator says you're OK to sell fan merch, you're OK to sell fan merch (unless they turn out to be a d!ck.)
I only saw it one other time - about a decade ago my sister cross stitched a teenage mutant ninja turtle design over a single crocheted blanket. I thought the idea was so cool. We grew up in a very eclectic craft-focused household and I'd never seen those two combined before then or since until this
fun tip for newer stardew players - every adult character likes coffee (or at least, in the previous/mobile version...) so i just make a million coffee once i get a coffee bean to plant (after planting as many as i can from it too lol) and give that to everyone, unless i have something they love jas and vincent hate it, leo is neutral otherwise everyone likes it (except harvey who loves it)
if you get the java ring from ginger island youll have it constantly in ur inventory after skull cavern runs too :-) - i use extra milk to make ice cream from jas n vincent
This creator is hella shady. I’m glad you made a video about her! She blocked me a while ago because I commented on an IG video that a game she was advertising had a disappointing ending for me and to watch out (not anything critical to her, just a friendly warning). She commented back to me a really long response basically saying that I didn’t know anything farming games and that I should try other games. Then eventually deleted the comment in whole and blocked me 😅 she definitely curates all of her user comments and interactions so everything looks clean and complimentary.
I sent this pattern to my great aunt who knits, sews, embroidered, crochets and cross-stitched (prolly since 1492 lol) and asked what she thought. She immediately recognized it as just "simple crochet or other knit pattern with cross-stitching on it". She explained how this technique was in many womens' and home ec books going back to the late 1800s as an easy way to make colorful decorum.
@@FreddyKruegerTheDreamDemon right, means she didnt do squat for research cuz if theres ppl who remember it I bet theres similar techniques that have been preserved either physically or in pattern to this day just like many of the late 1800's beaded crochet and laceworks available
That’s so cool!! I’m still a beginner but having tried a little of both tapestry crochet and cross stitch? I assumed it was cross stitch too. But that’s just from looking at it, I think if I’d seen the advertising I would have become confused tbh
I find her thinking that she was the first one to do it to be bull I fully believe she was just lying so that way she could build hype around this secret technique that has really been around since the 14th century there are medieval tapestries we have that used to this technique 😂
I.....girl just because the cross stitch part takes you less time and you don't personally ID as a cross stitcher doesn't stop the core design aspect of the item from being cross stitch and therefore needed to be named as such. It is a plain crochet cover with a cross stitch design, it is a hybrid project, there is no shame in calling a spade a spade.
it’s because she fundamentally doesn’t respect embroidery and cross stitch artists. HUNDREDS of us have been blocked by her for calling attention to this in the last year
@@welephantsoup im just curious do you know what kind of comments she was deleting and blocking? i dont want to think anyone was being malicious but i cant get into the headspace of blocking people if theyre not saying anything rude and if it was an honest misunderstanding...
@@minak5429 Before she blocked me I silently watched dozens of cross stitch comments appear and disappear 20 min later. Some were aggressive (but still correct), some absolutely accused her of lying, and others were just questioning what was happening or saying it didn’t look like any crochet stitches they had seen before. It absolutely was not a misunderstanding- it was burying her tracks. She ended up filtering specific words out of her comment sections entirely, that’s what I was testing and playing around with before she blocked me lol
The "Identifying as a cross stitcher" made me want to scream. Its not an identity, its something you create and isn't an identity, its a skill you have.
The part about this whole situation that confuses me the most is trying to gatekeep the cross stitch technique. Because I have crochet and knit patterns from the 70s that utilize it,so it's definitely not a brand new idea. To be honest there's a lot of techniques people decide to try to gatekeep that,if you search enough for it,probably have existed at some point in the past. Otherwise,it's a great pillow. And honestly the crochet community as a whole can be confusing at best.
I think the fluffy yarn + the hints she was dropping that it wasn't cross stitch threw a lot of people off. But I agree with the context of knowing the vid is about conteeversy I clocked it immediately
Well instead of accusing someone of gatekeeping since nothing is really new under the Sun ten why don’t they just figure it out for themselves instead of begging for patterns
@@thetruthandnothingbutthetr6484 because this person created the impression that they pioneered a never before used crotchet techniquce that replicates the color seperation of cross stitch, or so everyone thought. Evenyone wanted the pattern, because it seemed like that's the only way they would reveal to people how they did it. It's gatekeeping of information, and what's worse is it's information they didn't even have because it's just cross stitch. She created an environment where people really wanted the pattern, I don't blame people for being curious.
@@1sleepyguy42o if it was so easy to figure out then they could’ve did it and wouldn’t have needed her to tell them . I do crafting to …one of my crafts I am literally the only one that can do it at the level I’m doing it at because I don’t tell people MY technique..the materials I use and the way I do it aren’t a secret as they are things anyone can buy and that anyone can employ but I don’t have to divulge any of that . They can use their brains and figure it out just like I did. Nobody told me . I spent hours of trial and error and hundreds of dollars trying various materials and techniques to get to where I’m at …I don’t owe anyone my discoveries . Just like y’all call people gatekeeper I call people parasites for wanting to feed off the hard work of others without reciprocity
I’m only 10 minutes in but cross stitch on crochet has been done since approximately 30 seconds after the invention of crochet- it’s one of the main uses for Tunisian crochet
If you want to make something with cleaner pixels I recommend alternating front post double crochet and back post dc every other row. It makes perfectly stacked pixels and has a nice ribbed look it’s perfect for tapestries and I don’t see many folks doing it. There’s also knotted half double crochet but I may be getting the name wrong- it’s similar but has a different look for those who don’t like the ribbed look. I recommend buying The Hooktionary for different stitches to use in your color work and general tips plus tons of amazing charts.
seems like a cool idea, but i think maybe the ribbed effect is something many people would rather not have in a pixel art project, and why her work was popular. Regardless, thank you for sharing!
I don't know if anyone will see this, or even care, BUT for anyone curious, the pattern is now $8, the page with the design description no longer seems to be written by A.I. and includes things like weight of yarn, and tools needed/recommended, and the pattern itself is now listed as a Crochet AND Cross-stitch pattern. The actual pattern itself also seem A LOT more like other patterns I myself have bought, and now includes a colour-coded diagram of the pattern to use when cross-stitching. Overall I think you made an excellent point in your conclusion by saying this was just a person doing something new for the first time and not ready for how, honestly, VICIOUS some people in the crafting communities can be. It seems like Ezlyh really learned from this
I was playing Stardew Valley when I got the notification for this video and I laughed out loud. Was not expecting this particular crossover of interests today.
You can tell which commenters actually saw the thread(and receipts!) and who relied on this video. lmao. The designer explicitly lied about the technique, deleted comments informing others it wasn't a 100% crochet pattern, and changed the description after getting heat.
This is the first time I've actually been involved in fibre drama (my friend bought the pattern after we followed its development for months and we were going to buddy-crochet it together) and it's super disappointing how dismissive a lot of these comments are. I do not think Emma got the point of this drama across by obscuring it with discussion of other issues like gatekeeping. They should have talked to the creator of the Reddit post (or anyone who bought the pattern/anyone who commented on Reddit). We only heard from the pattern creator (and Emma, who doesn't play Stardew so wasn't hyped for this pattern), so we're missing a big chunk of the story. Emma even advertises ezlyh in the description and doesn't link the Reddit post! Which is absolutely wild if you're trying to cover a story without bias. There's also the weird and ironic gatekeeping vibes with "well I know it's cross-stitching just by looking!!!!!" implying people are dumb for not knowing when the pattern was being explicitly advertised as not cross stitching. I'm not angry with ezlyh personally, didn't comment on this anywhere else and would never send her hate (and people who wanted refunds got them, so), I just think this video does Not Get It because Emma clearly doesn't care about this pillow/IP and they can do much better.
Literally I commented on her post “inb4 future made in the moment video” 😂she’d say it’s yarn under! Idk how anyone who crochets can say they don’t know what cross stitch is and to pretend it’s a technique they invented and then sit back and rely on people commenting “ I could tell it was cross stitch” to dodge complaints about false advertising 😅😂😂 Very shady.
Definitely. For once in my life I know the story in its entirety, and seeing how Emma covered it (without mentioning the sketchy behavior such as deleting comments calling her out, straight up lying saying there was no cross stitch, and adding/changing info to the pattern and her own TT and IG profiles only after being called out) makes me question her thoroughness and objectivity in stories she has covered in the past.
Yeah exactly. She seems genuinely remorseful and thought it was standard for companies to lie about their work to keep company secrets@@MaryAnnSweetAngel
@@MaryAnnSweetAngelshe probably only gave them to prevent further backlash because the backlash when people realized it was actually just a cross stitch pattern with a basic pillow pattern was immense just like I believe she lied about thinking that she was the only one doing her technique to the point of even pretending to do color changes for a TikTok The traditional way just so she could feel like some crochet genius
The cross stich classism is so real - i have the closest to a degree in Traditional Handcrafts that can be had in my country and ho boy did the embroidery teachers haaaate cross stich, some of them down right banned it
Some people just really hate when a skill is more accessible for people to learn cuz they think it makes it less "special" I guess?? It's ridiculous. Like there's nothing wrong with a craft having a lower barrier to entry. Something being easy to start to learn doesn't devalue it but some people act like it does T.T I wish I had picked up cross stitching ages ago cuz following a pattern is really relaxing, doesn't hurt my wrist the way crochet and knitting does, and I can actually follow the written patterns without needing to consult youtube tutorials as often with beginner stuff! It helps build confidence!
I'm sorry, but saying she didn't call it a 'cross-stitch pattern' because she doesn't identify as a cross stitcher (but she will if it 'makes people happy') is so dumb. It's not an identity, it's a description of the product she is selling.
(edited) 'i dont identify as a cross-stitcher' was soo funny to me like okay?? i mend my clothes sometimes but it doesnt mean i identify as a 'seamstress' - yet it doesnt change the fact that i did sew a button back up - its not a matter of seing yourself as something just the technique you utilised lol
i will say it feels odd given that there is an official Stardew Valley Cross Stitch Guide. also, as someone who doesn’t cross stitch but does do perler bead stuff + diamond art, not a fan of just. taking the pixel art from the game, making very minor edits, and selling as your own when that is all visible online, and again, is sold officially via FanGamer.
idk it makes sense to use the exact pixel art from the game to me because its more appealing to fans of the game. you look at it and know its instantly a stardew valley chicken not just any random pixel art chicken. plus seeing the exact pixels recreated in a craft material is part of what makes the product kinda ‘novel’ imo
Idk i think its kinda weird to focus on official brand like that, if you prefer buying the official thing thats cool and understandable but idk its just weird to keep sweing this argument cuz like, okay? Idk i just orefer supporting small buisiness (not talking the arrist spoke abt in the video as they are being manipulative) but just in general. A corp that big doesnt need even more funds funneled this way, and no this isbt just abt you haha. Feel the need to say that but im just talking in general
@@spacegirlsgf I believe it’s just the chickens (I’ve been meaning to pick up the book but haven’t had the funds) but it’s still like just the assets from the game
the moment jaida started talking about stardew valley it just threw me back to when i lost two weeks of my life to it. i had an excel sheet and everything👀
When it comes to whether they should have used AI for their product description or not, I think it was fine for her to use ChatGPT to get a first draft to save time, but then she should have gone through to proofread and edit. It’s silly to assume it’s gonna just give you a perfect end product, especially with something that will include technical terminology where small differences in language mean very different things.
this. Especially as a crafter, they should understand that writing (whether creative or technical or academic) is also a craft. As a writer and former writing tutor myself, this devaluation of writing by artists and crafters themselves annoys me a lot.
Nope. If people are going to get all up in arms over pattern designers getting ripped off by AI, they can bloody well have some respect for writers too. It would have cost her 5 bucks on fivvr to get a real human to write that description if she was too lazy to do it herself. I'm tired of every other artist's work being guarded, but everyone's willing to steal from writers. QUIT UISING AI PEOPLE!
Telling buyers that they aren't allowed to make money off of the item they make from your pattern while making money off that same pattern BECAUSE it uses IP that you weren't allowed to use is WILD.
The stardew creator has said he's OK with independent small batch artists making money off the IP. A created pattern being used by many to sell falls under a gray area so I think it makes sense she said that.
@@a-plansit doesn’t tho, only the creator of the IP can say that. She can’t use it herself and then tell others she can’t, it’s hypocritical because she doesn’t own it. And if people have paid for her patter, legally they are allowed to make and sell off of it, you are protected by law if you purchased the pattern and can’t be subject to copyright. If people were trying to resell her written pattern, she can sue because that is her intellectual material. But simply selling a product that you make from a pattern you bought, you are protected under law to do so. That’s why you’re allowed to buy sewing patterns from the shop, and sell the clothes you make from them
I remeber seeing one of her posts a month or two ago and someone said in the comments called it exactly what it was (cross stitch on crochet), said she was gatekeeping and lying about her technique. Mans really got hit with the gift of prophesy 💀
i've designed a few knitting patterns and my job now is selling stitch markers on etsy so my thoughts - 1-IP infringement can be serious, i know etsy removes stuff and can ban shops if they do it too much and some companies care WAY more than others (think... disney and taylor swift) and you can get in legal trouble. it's good to at least think about it and try to get permission first 2-i probably include too many details in pattern descriptions but i calculate the total number of stitches (for items like hats with multiple sizes, i do that for every size...) i list every supply needed, i talk about techniques and individual stitches used so there's NO surprises. it seems not great if they didn't specify outright on the pattern listing all of this stuff, or at least materials and techniques... it's misleading 3-i always let people (but not larger companies, without talking to me) sell items they made from my patterns, with the condition that they don't try to claim the design as their own (since, you know, i made it up....) and to direct anyone interested in making it to my shop/site, even if it's a free pattern. it's ironic they said people can't sell it, when they're using IP that's also not theirs and selling it..... i'd feel different if it was free and had a tip or "pay what you want" option so they could still make money on it but in a less direct way i hope they keep designing and get more accurate with descriptions, at the very least they seem to have a talent for actually making the stuff - it looks so neat and cleanly done
part of why i always let people sell the stuff (and mention it in the patterns) is because it's less confusing for everyone (they don't need to try to contact me and ask) and because it can really rub people the wrong way to open a pattern they paid for to see "DO NOT SELL THE THINGS YOU MAKE" - in some cases that makes sense, in others it doesnt, but in most cases it just feels weird and almost rude? like, if you say "please ask permission before selling things you make using my pattern, because i don't want my pattern stolen by big companies" then people would understand WAY more especially because it's so common for someone to make something for themself, realize that they don't actually like it (like the sweater looks nice but fits them weird, or it's just not exactly as expected, or they just never end up wearing it) and try to sell it so they can get some money for their materials and time, and i think that kind of thing should be allowed. it just feels so controlling to tell people they can't sell something they put time, effort, and materials into, assuming they're not producing it in bulk or something
11:51 I read her statement -- "not to be sold as your own" -- to mean that items made with the pattern shouldn't be sold as if they're the crafter's own original design. Do you think it could be read that way, or is this a common way that some pattern-makers word their requests not to sell items made with their patterns? I've never purchased a commercially-produced pattern so I'm not sure what the industry standards are. I find it odd that people apparently include "permissions" warnings in their patterns, telling people to not sell items made from the patterns!
@@MM-jf1megiven her thinking cross-stitching on crochet was proprietary information and that she should gate keep it, I wouldn’t give her the benefit of it being poor wording and that she meant to just say “original design by X” in any product listings. Before I had to stop crochet there was a pattern I really wanted to purchase but saw the creator said you could not sell anything you made using it, which completely put me off buying it, because anything I make with my own hands should be something I can sell as long as I don’t pretend I came up with the pattern.
@@MM-jf1me considering the other things, i would be hesitant to believe that was the intent behind it, but it is totally possible it's pretty common for pattern designers to not want people to sell items made using their patterns, especially if they also sell finished items they made from their own patterns, but it's iffy on if that request carries any legal weight and it can just put people off from buying the pattern in the first place, which doesn't help either party (designer or crafter) it's totally fair to say that large companies can't use your pattern though, as some do take people's designs and mass-produce them with no payment or credit of any kind and that's the actual threat, generally
$15 is the price of STARDEW VALLEY THE GAME! imagine thinking that ur ai generated pdf of pixel art from a game is worth the same price as that game...
Idk this just seems like somebody that’s inexperienced and made some missteps. She was really receptive and understanding of the criticism and immediately issued refunds to people that were upset. I think her projects are adorable and the drama was a little over the top, I feel bad for her.
I agree with both of y'all -- I think she purposefully lied to people to try to "protect" what she thought was a trade secret (not the best behavior, but not terribly uncommon) and later learned (or decided) that her technique wasn't unique enough to be a secret and so created a pattern for sale, including a line about it having cross-stitched elements. Probably wouldn't've been such a big deal if she'd advertised it on her social media with an announcement post like, "My pixel-perfect secret is out! To everyone who guessed that I embroidered the cute chickens atop my crocheted pillow: you were right! I was trying to keep it hush-hush as a "trade secret" but decided that was a bit silly. Now I want to share my technique with all of you in my first-ever pattern! etc." The issue was her not being forthcoming in the past and then not over-advertising that detail to correct the public's misconception (that she had intentionally fostered). I would feel cheated had I been one of her hyped-up, unwary customers. I'm glad she's been offering refunds and revised the pattern listing to ensure future customers knew exactly what they were buying. In the grand scheme of things, I think this was a forgivable misstep.
@@MM-jf1mei absolutely agree. Especially considering the massive pressure from the other people who make a living on your same craft to gate keep everything they can so their way of life can continue. It's in every art industry. I think she didn't advertise that it had the cross stitch because of those pressures but she still added a line about it in the description so, for that id say all forgiven. It was her first pattern. Mistakes are bound to happen and she pretty clearly learned from and resolved them. People seem to be talking like everything she did was so easy but I wouldn't expect better judgement from any of them if they had only just tried selling something new for the first time.
I think she was very quick to be "receptive" and "understanding of criticism".... once the backlash to her pattern hit her hard enough to hurt. But for weeks ahead of that, she was deliberately misleading people and deleting comments that criticized what she was doing, so, I kind of doubt that she was very receptive or understanding of criticism.
As someone who crochets and cross stitches, I can see why she felt she needed to gate-keep the technique when she was only selling products. This is because once I confirmed that this pattern was a basic pillow with a cross-stitched design I could completely recreate all of their products without needing to know the pattern using only a photo. Of course, I would never do this, but I am certain many people would recreate and sell their products without giving credit and the original creator wouldn't get any compensation in return. As soon as I saw these I immediately started thinking of doing cross-stitched pillows with other designs on them and if many people did this it would have taken away from their shop in a very competitive and truly overpopulated field. It also stated in the description once they started to sell the pattern that the color changes were cross stitching so even though some may be disappointed that they could have ripped off the pattern or technique without spending money if they had known before, I don't think they were being intentionally misleading once they started selling patterns. And again they never needed to be open about their techniques in the first place before starting to sell patterns. Maybe they shouldn't have replied to the comments if they weren't going to tell the truth but not everyone in the crafting community has to be open about every step of making their product. Most other kinds of businesses are extremely secretive about their techniques.
Its a bummer that we are collectively saying "well its not uncommon so its forgivable" to intentionally lying to scam folks out of money. In this economy people save their precious pennies for very coveted purchases. Yeah corporations and influencers who are out of touch will regularly resort to this but lets not normalize small businesses and regular human beings scamming each other because its "normal" or "common". Lets make it not common. Lets not rob folks of money.
As someone who cross stitches, I immediately thought it was cross stitch and that the video was going to be about the crochet community coming for cross stitchers 😂😂 (Please do make your cross stitches all go the same way if you do this pattern! It looks messy and bad when they don’t match.)
$15???????? For WHAT?!?! I definitely instantly thought it was cross stitched over the sc but i can definitely understand how people would be upset because that listing was bs Jaida's commentary 😂 beautifully chaotic. I love it.
my favorite part of this is Jaida's rant about stardew valley cause i am also the type of person who can go on unhinged rants about my favorite video games if prompted
When I saw the title of this video, I was like, “how is this real?” I’m not sure why I clicked on it, and I can’t believe I watched the whole thing and enjoyed myself since I know nothing of this community or drama. 😂 Your stardew correspondent is hilarious, and now I want to re-learn to crochet (my mom taught me when I was a kid).
imo if you're uncertain about releasing your first pattern you shouldn't be asking 15 dollars for it. I've released a few patterns and sometimes i don't dare ask money for it cause i'm insecure about them. (and lets be honest: Stardew Valley uses pixel art game sprites and turning those into cross stitch or any alpha pattern isn't that impressive.)
the GAME is $15! this pattern is worth $3 at best and I'd still be mad I paid $3 for chatgpt to tell me it's cross stitch after you explicitly told people it wasn't. knowing it's cross stitch and having access to a photo would enable most intermediate/advanced crocheters to copy by eye and some counting lmao. there is no pattern needed unless you're a total beginner, and if you're writing for total beginners you should not even TOUCH Ai!!
I'm a 34 year old man, how did I look at that and immediately go "that looks like it's cross stitched" I haven't held yarn in my hands in two decades?!?
I have not done cross stitch in two decades but I do crochet and yup 👍 it’s immediately recognizable if 1) you’re familiar with cross stitching and 2) you’re not actively being gaslit and lied to that there’s some way to recreate that in crochet. This is an understandable mistake though, bc you can recreate an approximation of pixel art (or cross stitch) using Tunisian crochet or crochet faux knit patterns and other types of knots in crochet but, it doesn’t look THAT much like the real thing when you really look at it. It’s reasonable to think it’s possible especially when someone is showing you an example and showing you videos and telling you it’s a new technique and YES, it REALLY IS crochet! When it’s not. But sure, without context, you’d probably just assume it’s cross stitch if you know what that looks like.
her response is so weird, it's like she's apologizing without completely owning up to the fact that she was lying about how her work. like yes, she admits she gate-kept the cross-stitching at first but then later claims she doesn't know anything about cross-stitching and never thought about it being a part of her work so that's why she didn't include it in the pattern marketing. she even says in that DM that she's not a cross-stitcher, "well i guess i am? now?". Like why are you being coy about it? you've been cross-stitching this whole time lol.
12:00 depending on the site, this is very cut-and-dry in the 3D printing community. for example, you can commission a designer to create a 3D model of a prop or weapon from a video game. however, that model is then their copyright, NOT yours. you can print it for yourself, but legally cannot then go on to sell prints of that design. i’m sure there are ways to involve the creator as far as paying them a cut of whatever you sell, but that is at the discretion of the model designer. doesn’t matter if the design is based on an existing property like Stardew Valley. you are using a tool provided to you that is not meant to be used for merchandisable purposes. it’d be like commissioning a piece of original art from a painter, making prints of it, and selling them on the street. sure, you paid for the commission and materials to recreate it, but the intellectual property is not your own.
Really great video. The Cross Stitch community has alot of those same dramas, and i was so surprised it was in the crochet community too. Everything always gets messy when money is involved.
right? I get feeling the backlash and feeling attacked somewhat but that was a really weird way of saying things, relax pal, you can be a crocheter and do crosstich, just say so and understand why people get mad.
She probably was forced because calling herself a crochet artist made ppl angry because it’s now “false advertising” like I’m sorry but without the crochet part of that pillow it wouldn’t be a pillow it would just be cross stitch and even then she probably doesn’t know what stitches she does. I feel like calling a crochet artist that makes stuffed animal with a lot of cross stitch designs a “cross stitch artist” would make no sense. She probably genuinely felt pushed pressured and hated on because she even used the word crochet. I feel sad for her cause getting That much hate for a legitimate hobby and small business. It’s so sad.
I can't stand AI. Not because if the product in itself but what people make of it. I firmly believe it is wrong and unethical to use whatever AI produces as an end product instead of an extra help that needs to be edited or a reference (yes I'm looking at you AI "artists"). That's what happened here. She should have read and edited her description to fit the product instead of just using whatever came out of the prompt.
Most of those AI generators are also trained on/pull from stolen work, making them even more unethical. In no way should they ever be used as a final product, as it's basically plagiarism with extra steps. As a reference I still think morally it's really iffy, but a reference to create true original work is significantly better than slapping your name on some stolen work farted out by an AI and calling it "art" and calling yourself the "artist" (AI art is not art and AI "artists" are not artists)
@@Izzy-cp8ytAdding to this, cause it needs to be broadcasted and well known, ai images and texts cannot be copyrighted and 'owned' by whoever wants to claim it as their 'art'. In the US, the courts agreed that without a human hand there is no copyright. Artificial intelligence isn't human. I'm assuming it all falls into public domain.
@@wayIessunfortunately not the case in a lot of places- speaking from a UK standpoint, apparently AI generated images do fall under intellectual property laws seeing as the process of creating prompts etc. Is a human activity done with creative intent etc. I agree it really seems like AI generated stuff shouldn't be subject to copyright laws, but that's just apparently the way things are. :/ (Source- I'm an AI ethics student, and we recently had a guest lecture on AI and Copyright law)
This feels like part of a greater issue in the crafting world of folks who have fairly recently picked up a craft deciding to teach others without doing any research. Looking at a few books or patterns from well-established makers would have helped this creator see what they need to include in a pattern and that adding cross stitch decoration isn't a revolutionary, "proprietary" technique. So many newish makers seem set on badly reinventing the wheel instead of consulting the many decades, centuries, or even millenia of expertise that came before them. I am both An Old and a professor, so I particularly see the value in research, but to me it also suggests that k-12 education in the US, at least, is really letting people down in terms of developing research skills. There's so much on the internet today, but the internet is also not the only repository of information. As fiber arts folks it's important for us to remember that our forebears were smart, and that there's almost nothing in terms of fiber arts techniques that hasn't already been invented, if only because our predecessors' lives literally depended on being able to effectively make clothing and other fiber goods.
It doesn't seem she WANTED to teach things to others, she was selling her products, but people kept asking her how she did, so she decided to profit on it.
I just wanna say this is my first video I’ve seen from you and I’ve never been more intrigued than seeing a craft drama RUclips channel. Will be watching every video now
What's really interesting about this designer is that it is close to a cross stitch design another creator made (NeedlesAndNightshade). The chickens and the border (except the flowers) look almost the same.
@@lordtetteit was indeed deleted, as matter of fact, 3 patterns from the same uploader were. As someone who's from the cross-stitch, friendship bracelet and stardew valley communities, it really gives me the ick because the patters were almost, if not, exact replicas from the sprites in the game, which also has a book full of cross stitch patterns.
@@judykolar9029you absolutely should!!! one of my favourite games of all time, there’s so much you can do on it and it’s so replayable. and don’t even get me STARTED on all of the mods for it 😂
i bought this pattern SO FAST because i like stardew and i had never seen color change that looked that clean. needless to say, i was SO disappointed to realize it was just cross stitch, because it was also way more expensive than your average pattern?? and obviously cross stitch is WAY easier than some new tapestry crochet stitch. happy to know other people were also upset
it is sometimes worrying about how gatekeep-y the community can be. I feel as though a lot of times getting into fiber arts can be intimidating because there’s a lot of potential wrath if you make a mistake.
The trick is not to engage with weirdos online. I've been "in the fibre arts community" for years, as has my mother and her friends, and none of us had ever heard of any of this drama stuff.
Right? I was considering crochet as a hobby but all these people took a mistake (something she probably didn't think too heavily on then just panicked when the intense wave of people reacting hit her) and they're showing zero signs of understanding not everyone's a skilled business person or know the ins and outs on what's allowed. Safe to say it's put me off.
@@TonksTheFool I promise that you can completely avoid all this drama. Drama is niche even within this niche sphere. I've been using ravelry for years, and never encountered any of the things covered on this channel.
Online communities and fandoms are the worst when it comes to gatekeeping or lists of arbitrary, unspoken, and non-agreed-upon "rules". In reality every fandom or community is too diverse to expect everybody to act perfect according to what you or the next person considers to be the standards of what is and isn't acceptable in xyz fandom/group/community.
As a passionate stardew valley fan, crocheter and someone who works in IT i feel like this video was custom made for me😂 please if you’re spying on me - stop it, I’m scared! But in all seriousness great video, I appreciate how respectful and civil you always are when describing this niche drama:)
i stopped watching emma in the moment to watch the new emma in the moment video edit: i used to cross-stitch and immediately thought something was “fishy” about this pillow because it looks like a cross stitch piece! makes so much sense to learn it’s just a crocheted pillow with color cross stitched on top. i’ll definitely be using this technique but I definitely think the instructions/description were a little deceiving, whether intentional or not
you know, this game was my comfort game throughout the pandemic (i'd log off zoom and play stardew for four hours straight each day i had class) but this video was the first time i've ever seen a picture of concernedape. i always just pictured him as his pfp.
I dont crochet but I do cross stitch. I would be pretty mad to basically be duped into buying a pixel art cross stitch pattern because pixel art/sprites are the easiest things to pattern yourself. But also the pattern itself is wrong. A blue chicken isnt simply a blue version of a white one, its tail is longer and curls up.
I mean, cross stitch is 100% the same as pixel art. Regardless of the complexity of the piece, in the end it is the same thing as pixel art. Smaller canvas sizes, like Terraria or Stardew Valley sprites are easier to eyeball, yes. But then you have a piece like "Ruined Amalgamation" (over at Pixel Joint) that is far from 'simple'. Yet it is still 100% pixel art.
I somehow started watching your videos about drama in the crochet/knitting community having no knowledge on the topic and not caring to learn. For some reason your videos made me love crochet and want to learn so I made a wooble and am now doing my first sweater.
tell Jaida I'm OBSESSED with her intermission and I also want Leah as my wife. Also you get a golden pumpkin every year at the festival if that elevates the stress
This whole thing just gave me flashbacks to the time I bought a 13 day CAL/KAL where the crocheters didn’t receive nearly enough yarn for the base of the project and only one day was crochet/knitting and the majority of the other 12 days were cross stitch 🥲
Your channel just popped up in my recommended and damn your diction is amazing. English is not my native language and I'm not fluent either, so it's great to be able to truly understand what you say without any kind of subtitles
Gorl you can get more golden pumpkins if you go through the spirits eve maze each year 😭😭😭 also the correct answer is Alex bc his loved gifts are too damn annoying to get a bunch of -- complete breakfast? more like "I'm trying to complete my maxed out friendship and you are standing in my way."
$15 for a first-time pattern is WILD. I loved your Open Source analogy; I was peripheral to the OS community for a few years and strongly believe in the philosophy. That's probably why I tend to look up and make mostly free patterns. I also feel like if a pattern is free, I have more leeway to spend that money on some nicer yarn for it (especially from a LYS and/or local dyer). If I find a paid pattern I really like, I feel more like getting more budget friendly yarn.
Ok but Dylan's bullet journal class (beyond being actually life changing) literally brought me to grateful tears because she's just such a genuinely wholesome and real person
Everything else aside, I took psychic damage from the way you pronounced “Clefairy” at 1:02 😂 Lol I’m kidding, thanks for covering this!! Although I knit and crochet, I’m not super involved in online spaces, so it’s always wild to hear what’s going on. (But seriously, it’s more like “cluh-fairy”)
@@deszalt4492 just to clarify, I mean it as good-natured teasing. Also, I forgot to mention it in my first comment, but your hair looks freaking amazing.
saw the thumbnail and needed to tell you i love your hair! i buzzed mine recently and i’m trying to grow it out now 😭 but it’s definitely a look and a joy to maintain.
I have never played and have no desire to play Stardew Valley, but I would could listen to Jaida paassionately infodump about Stardew for hours lol, that was so wholesome and such pure joy
People are throwing around “trade secrets” like they’re an apprentice from Japan who have learned an esoteric forging method thats 500+ years old. “Gatekeeping” is a more complicated issue. If you’re selling it and you lie about *WHAT THE PRODUCT IS,* you’re just scamming people. It’s a cute pillow, but you lied about it and claimed it was a “business tactic.” Nowadays sellers all over are bragging about authentic craft-secrets in their advertising; it sets them apart.
I'm sorry, but if someone really thinks they invented or is the only person doing duplicate stitch they're either lying or so new they have no business publishing designs yet.
I sympathize with you I'm also having a sinus infection, I don't think I'll be working though , so props to you on that. Anyways, hope you have a steady recovery.
As an artist and crocheter, here are some of my thoughts: - The creator didn't just "hide" that the pillow was made with crosstitching, she actively denied it and misled people in her comments who asked about it. - I understand wanting some assistance with writing descriptions, but she should have at LEAST edited them and included more info about the actual pattern itself. However, I really don't like the use of generative AI for any reason because it's so highly unethical. - $15 for a bare bones plain pillow pattern with missing info and a cross stitch pattern is egregiously overpriced. - Her keeping people from selling goods made from this pattern is rich considering she doesn't own the IP in the first place. - Overall it seems like she's trying to cover her own ass instead of taking responsibility for her mistakes. Beginner mistakes or not, I personally would have a hard time trusting a creator like this and probably wouldn't support them in the future.
That is why I was so confused in the first place. This was the first I ever heard of this "drama," but I really can't shake why anyone is selling protected IP anyways. I sell on Etsy so this is just like calling the cops when someone steals your bag after you shoplifted it.
I'm impressed at how far I had to scroll before anyone brought up AI. I knew we'd start accepting it without question as soon as it looked good enough - I think we might have had more of a chance if we'd led with its ethics (and no, unfortunately few were going to care about artists), but the fact most people just said it looked bad was very telling
I do sewing and cross stitch (never dabbled in Crochet). Some of the deceptive practices the big brand sewing pattern makers used to engaged in is absolutely insane. They tried to restrict how you used the pattern and the garment/toy you'd make from said pattern. These are some of the most egregious I remember seeing: "You must buy a new pattern for each instance of the garment you make." "You are not permitted to wear the garment in public." "You cannot sell the final product to anyone else. But you are allowed to make it for immediate family members."
She's allowed to stop people selling pillows with her pattern because even it the subject matter isn't her own, the design and pattern is hers by copyright.
What’s wild is I immediately could tell that was cross-stitch, but maybe that’s cause I’ve been crocheting and know what it looks like vs other techniques. You can also tell cause of the depth in the stitches. Plus she included it in the description. Once again, people don’t read and cause an outrage for no freaking reason. That said, the creator did make it worse by intentionally misdirecting.
It’s a little absurd to me that the creator thought she was the first person to ever think of crossstitching over single crochet. My mom used to create designs this way in the 70s. It’s possible that she was just uninformed, but it seems presumptuous and even a little egotistical.
I think 0:23 applies to a LOT of online “communities”. I think it’s one thing to encourage people to lurk a bit and see how things go, but way too often, I see this jump to hostility for people who don’t immediately fall in line. A lot of in-group/out-group level nonsense.
like this comment if ur going to shave ur head now too
Literally shaved mine this morning 😂
The hair is so slay
I have to give myself those gamer head indents first for the aesthetic
I like pulling on my hair too much
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I've been crocheting for 10 years and when I asked her if this was cross stitched and she said no, I spent hours and hours banging my head against a wall trying to figure out what she had done. Really disappointed to hear that it was cross stitch all along. If I knew about the pattern release I totally would have bought it and then promptly asked for my money back. I wish she had just been honest.
i feel like a lot of times in crafting you can achieve the same result in different ways, so if i were in your position i'd be like "ok it looks like cross stitch, creator says it's not, but like i totally can achieve the same result with cross stitching" and go on my merry way to cross stitch a pillow lol not to mention that cross stitching is easier than whatever techinque for color change in crochet so i'd feel very smug about finding a more efficient way to make the thing
but i get why you're upset too, it's fun to discover new techniques, especially when they offer neater results, must've been infuriating to think that such technique exist and you can't access it only to realize it didn't even exist in the first place
@@nubiferanotareally the frustration lies in the creator “gate keeping” what she thought was a revolutionary idea that has been around for quite some time and misleading people
Exactly the same thought process here. I thought at the start of this video that we'd learn about some new type of crochet that gives a more square cross-stitch-y look, maybe a variation on puff stitch or each "square" being two stitches in some variation of mosaic crochet, but all we got was disappointment.
@@nubiferanota about your first paragraph I get what you're saying but that's not really the point. Lying in order to gatekeep sucks even if people can find workarounds :( and yeah you get it - I would love to cross stitch but it hurts my hands, which is why I was so excited to find a crochet technique that replicates it :(
@@pattyprolapseIs that some kind of anime inside joke I'm not weaboo enough to understand?
I took one look and immediately recognized it as cross stitch... am I weird?? My grandmother used to do projects in this manner, and it's how I "cheat" my own as well. Color work is hard, embroidery is easy 😂😅 My mom is the color expert in the family.
Me too, but I’ve been crocheting for 40+ years, I think someone newer to crocheting might not recognize it.
lol i thought the video title was cross stitch because it looked that way to me. Then the word crochet was used and I was confused for a second.
yeah me, too. I‘m not even that much into crochet. Using it on top of plain crochet is also not a secret technique. I‘m surprised so many didn‘t recognize it and became sooo upset :O
I’m new to crochet but have been embroidering for a few years and immediately recognized this too
100% dude, I got confused when I saw 'crochet' instead of 'cross stitching' in the title. I was cross stitching as I watched the video though so being a cross stitcher and having my project right in front of me might have helped with me identifying it haha
I feel like the problem here is selling a pattern and advertising it as a "crochet pattern" when, in reality, the main design of it is a crossstitch pattern
Nah. The description CLEARLY says "cross stitch color changes." And the base is crochet, so . . . If I designed something knitted and it used duplicate stitch for the design, I'd advertise it as a knitted design.
I could understand but it clearly states crocheting a pillow and then using crossstitch on it. All that needed to be done add some more words and clarify.
@@EsmereldaPea she had been claiming she had a special variation of the crochet cross stitch (aka the sc used for amigurumi) and that it wasn't just cross-stitch on top. Whenever someone questioned that it was cross stitch she would get really defensive and say it wasn't.
"Color changes" is a crochet term. While you can change colors in cross stitch it's just not a term in the same way. People who crochet and cross stitch are aware of this@@EsmereldaPea
@Smulenify - that's a different matter altogether. I was commenting solely on the comment that it's disingenuous to have advertised this as crocheted. IMO, since the description says the colorwork is cross-stitched, no harm no foul on that one point. It's not unusual to use such techniques in crochet or knit pieces. I just designed a hat that uses a combination of stranded knitting, intarsia, AND duplicate stitch for the colorwork.
There are plenty of other issues with this whole thing: poorly/incompletely written pattern, as you said, misleading people about the techniques used, etc.
I think those who ascribe such mistakes to naivete are right. The fact that she offered refunds with no argument whatsoever IMO shows she had no malice in the things she did.
Hard lesson to learn, but she sure will never forget it.
As someone who loves to cross-stitch, I don’t understand why she tried to distance from it. Cross-stitch is a valuable and fun craft, and though many probably think it’s easier than crocheting so anyone can do it, I can assure you I’ve seen people royally screw up cross-stitching, so it does take skill. I love crocheting and cross-stitching, so I love the idea of patterns that have both in them. Would love to get one with some kind of spooky theming.
Dude I’m noticing a lot of people having kind of an attitude about cross stitch! Like don’t devalue that art form, your beef is not with cross stitch, it’s with this scammy creator!
I often mix knitting, crocheting, embroidery of different kinds including cross striching. I don't understand anyone who thinks you can't experiment.
I’ve been asked if my cross stitches are paintings. They can be incredibly detailed and difficult. If you are one or two stitches off the entire pattern will be off.
Messing up one square and not realizing until later is a monstrous mess 😂
@@SuperKatieThe2nd that’s what I’m saying
I started following her after I saw her stardew pillow. I’ve been crocheting since I was 9 and cross stitching off and on almost as long. She definitely lied. I was going to try it as a cross stitching over a plain bag, but watching her videos and reading comments she stated over and over it was crochet ONLY with color changes. Especially the videos. She showed her color changing, had it at a weird angle, and would cut the video so it was impossible to see what she was doing.
So I lost hours trying to get the tension and color change right. I knew it was some type of trick, but I was in denial, and still willing give her the benefit of the doubt. I understand being protective of your patterns. So when the pattern came out I was going to buy it. . . then I saw the price. I’m not angry just annoyed/disappointed lol. It sucks, but I feel better knowing I’m not the only one who felt this way.
funniest part to me is that she was pricing her chatgpt pattern the same as the actual cost of stardew valley. 😂 who the hell does she think she is?!
@@reda-exeand then not letting people sell what they made, even though she doesn’t own the IP at all
The fact that the pattern description doesn’t include material requirements is a massive red flag! If was free ok sure but not for a paid pattern
exactly. why are you charging people money if you can’t even set aside a few minutes to write your own description of the product? or at the very least, if you’re going to use chatgpt proofread it afterwards and add necessary information like an actual materials list.
dude at least if it was like a 2 dollar pattern id be fine w it but like FIFTEEN DOLLARS???? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCKK OMG like you would genuinely have to live under a rock to ever think that pattern deserves that price…
i feel like that mistake happened because that was the first pattern she put out. i really dont think she did anything super horrible honestly
@@arsey1833 There are several patterns on Ravelry alone that I wonder why someone would think they could charge for them. I'm talking basic or patterns an experienced crochet/knitter (which was the case here) could figure out using the pictures. As you said, $2-$5 is worth not having to go through the trial and error on most. For $15, I expect to have to pay attention for more than half the project. The last pattern I bought at that price did not live up to this expectation so I haven't bought any for the moment (it was basically a Tunisian stitch pattern with increases.)
@@trixabellianThat's totally fair. Personally, I wouldn't pay that kind of money for a pattern that won't tell me the material requirements before purchase tho
Before she realized the pattern, there were comments who said it looked like it was cross stitch, and she answered them that it wasn't, but a "special technique"... She straight up lied
The worst part of that is that cross stitch over knitted or crocheted fabric is not a new technique. In fact, with knitting, doing embroidery over top for smaller color changes is advised. And cross stitch is one of the oldest forms of embroidery around. It dates way back to like the medieval period. Maybe she pioneered the cross stitch over the amiguri stitch style for crochet, but she definitely didn't pioneer either technique.
Yeah, like the design is cute anyway, so why lie about it at all??
@jamiecoull7081 I was thinking the same thing. Duplicate stitch in knitting is sometimes even used for larger blocks of color in situations where intarsia just wouldn't work. For example, I recently saw a pattern for an in-the-round Palestine flag hat in which the red was done entirely in duplicate stitch. That's the only way to do it without knitting the hat flat, then seaming OR doing intarsia in the round, which is a pretty advanced technique.
I think this is the main point of the whole fiasco. There is a difference between gatekeeping and flat out lying. People used to ask her all the time if it was cross stitch and she would respond that it was a different crochet technique and she uses yarn under stitches. Even had clips of videos of her pretending to color change the traditional crochet way. Led people on for months building suspense for this new amazing technique she had for people to find out it was just cross stitch after all. Then she made something up about how she didn't see it as cross stitch because she doesn't identify as a cross stitcher???? The fact is she LIED!
@@jamiecoull7081 she didn't. Cross stitch on amigurumi has been a thing for years
"I don't identify as a cross stitcher so I didn't think it was cross stitch" (not exact quote) is... quite a statement
Made me laugh so much for no real reason. Just made me think like… “I don’t identify as queer, I identify as cishet, but I am nonbinary AFAB dating a woman. But I identify as cishet.” 😅 I get what they’re saying but agree it was quite something lol
It sounds to me like she just decided to start sewing her colors onto her items because she liked how it looked, and settled on techniques that more or less _amounted_ to cross stitch without ever actually Studying Cross Stitch or even realizing that’s what she was doing. And that does make some sense! The basics of cross stitch are fairly intuitive, and most techniques are standard because they make sense or work well. But I can understand needing an outside perspective to put two and two together, if it’s not something that was really on your radar.
I kind of understand the vibe, just from my own experience. I learned some really rudimentary embroidery as a child and I use my basic understanding in my cosplays to create accent stitching and simple designs and just generally to make it pop. I prefer it over using vinyl or fabric overlays unless it’s a very large design, and have been told it looks very unique because of that. That being said, I very much do not follow extensive embroidery technique short of “thick thread make pretty line” so I don’t often describe what I do as embroidery since I know anyone who actually does embroidery would have an aneurism at my handiwork.
That being said, whenever I am asked in a professional setting (when I make theater costumes or when I’m in a competition) I describe it more or less as “embroidery influenced stitch work” since it’s kind of a Frankenstein approach. I have the verbiage necessary for that approach, though. While it’s possible that she had poor intentions and deliberately mislead on her cross-stitching, I think it’s just as possible she thought of the vague concept of “let’s stitch yarn overtop of my crochet”, didn’t know that was a whole ass concept in of itself, and only finally looked into it and realized she done goofed after everything already started to get out of hand.
Like I said, though, it could also be intentional misleading and now trying to double back, which would be on her. But I can definitely see where she’s coming from if it was otherwise a well intended mistake.
Again, I'm old. Why would the designer feel the need to "identify" as anything??? That's a bit odd.
@@patperrier9640
She doesn't litterally no one asked her too they just asked her to be more descriptive and make it clear she used different techniques that are not normally in crochet and asked her to be clearer about what techniques she's using
idk I feel like explicitly telling people that it's a 'special technique' in response to them asking if it's cross stitch is absolutely deceptive.
Yeah that’s the kicker, none of this would be half so bad if she hadn’t objectively lied. That she says she didn’t think she was being deceptive because her intention wasn’t to deceive makes it worse and is kinda toxic.
I find it unbelievable that she thought something as common as cross stitching on crochet was a unique secret of her trade... like it was something she invented.
For me, it's the creating the Reels/TikTok content that made it SEEM like she was doing a typical crochet color change. You don't just accidentally make a Reel, ya know? Lots of thought and effort goes into something like that shot for shot. Def a bummer to hear that, this had been on my crochet list for a while, very interesting to see this pop up in my YT recs and find there was such tea around this design 😅
Also, omg the ending with the Marnie rant KILLED ME! Perfection.
There were literally videos where she would have had to, off camera, UNDO work and then redo it in order to obscure the fact that it wasn't crochet. It's so shady! This video doesn't seem to convey the extent of the effort she put in to mislead people.
I don't get their hang-ups with "identifying" as a cross-stitcher when they seemingly do cross-stitch on all of their crochet and believed it to be their "trade-secret."
Some people just get caught in their own BS... just a circle of logic
Well, if they consider it their trade-secret, putting cross-stitcher in their bio would rather spoil the secret part of it all
They just could have something like mixed fiber arts or something similar. But the way she describes it, it sounds like cross stitch is something nasty and undesirable.
I think part of it is just that "cross stitching" in common parlance does not just include doing those particular stitches, but also like... working with very specific kinds of materials with a result that really doesn't resemble what she's doing? Like, if someone followed her for cross-stitch content they'd ALSO have been like "look you have to crochet a whole thing first, you can't call this a cross-stitch pattern". Embroidering details on crochet is more common than crocheting bases for conventional cross-stitch.
Capitalism babey!
I AM a crocheter, I've been doing it since I was 7, and I INSTANTLY knew the second I saw the pillow she had done stitch work to make the image rather than actual crochet. It's pretty obvious, but I get people may not have realized it because she uses very puffy yarn to hide the fact.
I have done some cross stitch as a kid and it was my assumption.
Yup tht was my thought exactly 😢
As a cross stitcher for most of my life, I immediately saw it too. It’s quite clear. That “X” square is unmistakable!
No idea if it's true but I've seen people saying that whenever anyone asked if it was cross Stitch shed deny it and get defensive, so it wouldn't be too much of a jump for get fans to assume they were getting a new colour technique in the pattern
I'm not even a crocheter or cross-stitcher and I could see it
I think the monetization argument is very interesting because it makes me think of how people sell fanart at conventions and such, or do art commissions of copyrighted characters. My immediate reaction was “who cares” to that argument lol
Honestly just that. I know for a fact that some people (good omens’ Neil Gaiman is coming to mind) really love seeing all the art people make of the fandom.
Fanart is different because you are taking characters and drawing them in a unique new way. You are putting your own style on it. With this cross stitch they are taking pixel art that was made by Concerned Ape and selling that. It wouldn’t be as bad if they were only selling the cushions, but when you sell a cross stitch pattern, it is literally just pixel art, and so it’s unfair to sell that when it’s just stolen from an artist
Yeah, I agree with caoimhedoesstudf above, fanart and media-inspired art/creations requires a certain amount of creativity and personal art style that diffirentiates it from the original, this cross stitch is straight up copying the pixel art of the game
Yeah fan projects and art is fanwork. And disagreeing with the replies above, making it in a fiber craft is transformative in a way, it uses the pixel art as a blueprint but still requires adaptation.
It's also why vlog brothers never trademarked dftba because legally they'd be required to police it from corporations but also individuals and they love what individuals make with it.
guys they just didnt want people to realize how easy it would be to do it themselves. pretending like the cross stitched pattern was something special was just to trick people into wanting to buy it instead
Considering they were selling the cross stitched pillow for what, over $100?
Not sure I'd sell a cross stitched sleeping mask for $20. (And it looks darn good. My owlbear sleep mask with minky backing.
And it IS a scam. The definition is "a dishonest plan for making money or getting an advantage, especially one that involves tricking people" she tricked people
Lmao yeah I’m in the middle of recreating one of her bags because she showed videos of exactly how she makes them. It’s literally just 50 x 50 single crotchets with yarning under 😅Even got the exact same zippers from Amazon.
Exactly. She was attempting to scam people.
i like how she basically stole his pixel art and then said i can make money off of this but you guys can't. also im pretty sure Eric Barone said hes okay with people selling stardew valley merch on a small scale
So wild!
I checked out of curiosity since a lot of indie developers are cool with small scale sales and the only info I could find was from 2017 on Twitter. He explicitly stated he was OK with fanmade, small scale sales. Can't see why he'd change his mind and didn't see anything about someone getting takedowns despite there now being official merch so I have to assume he's still cool with it.
Also yes the trademark info says you need to get permission but that's to reserve the right to go after big companies that make bank. If a creator says you're OK to sell fan merch, you're OK to sell fan merch (unless they turn out to be a d!ck.)
'PIllow good? I hope?' is much better than whatever the hell that description was.
exactly
‘Bring coines’ 😄
@@jscire__872 talking about the hat seller?
That would actually be the perfect description. ''Hi, Me sell patterns. Okay, poke? Bring coines. - pillow mouse'
Its at least more sincere than the corporate drivel ChatGPT spat out. But at least filler paragraphs are a more benign use of AI.
I haven't thought of cross stitching over simple crochet
it's a really good idea!
Also Jaida is spitting straight facts, as a person who has been spending too much time playing the new update
Yeah I’ve been interested in cross stitch but never quite jumped in, and this idea is so cool! Definitely inspires me to try this technique.
Looks pretty neat on top on knit pieces too, just need to be a bit careful not to go too tight on rows of stitches so it still stretches.
I only saw it one other time - about a decade ago my sister cross stitched a teenage mutant ninja turtle design over a single crocheted blanket. I thought the idea was so cool. We grew up in a very eclectic craft-focused household and I'd never seen those two combined before then or since until this
fun tip for newer stardew players - every adult character likes coffee (or at least, in the previous/mobile version...)
so i just make a million coffee once i get a coffee bean to plant (after planting as many as i can from it too lol) and give that to everyone, unless i have something they love
jas and vincent hate it, leo is neutral
otherwise everyone likes it (except harvey who loves it)
it's the easiest for me to remember because adult=likes coffee, kid=doesn't like coffee
oh I didn't know this! Thanks for the tip ^_^
That's cool but I'm a big fat Stardew Valley cheater lol
if you get the java ring from ginger island youll have it constantly in ur inventory after skull cavern runs too :-) - i use extra milk to make ice cream from jas n vincent
If you get the tea sapling recipe from Caroline, you can make tea and gift it just the same, and save all the coffee for yourself 😊 Happy 1.6! 🎉
This creator is hella shady. I’m glad you made a video about her! She blocked me a while ago because I commented on an IG video that a game she was advertising had a disappointing ending for me and to watch out (not anything critical to her, just a friendly warning). She commented back to me a really long response basically saying that I didn’t know anything farming games and that I should try other games. Then eventually deleted the comment in whole and blocked me 😅
she definitely curates all of her user comments and interactions so everything looks clean and complimentary.
What was the game you were talking about? I'm trying some new farming/life sims and I want to avoid the bad ones
yuck. 🐍
Bruh, what a crazy lady 😭
I sent this pattern to my great aunt who knits, sews, embroidered, crochets and cross-stitched (prolly since 1492 lol) and asked what she thought. She immediately recognized it as just "simple crochet or other knit pattern with cross-stitching on it". She explained how this technique was in many womens' and home ec books going back to the late 1800s as an easy way to make colorful decorum.
This makes the situation so much funnier, it's been a technique for over 200 years and she thinks she's the one who thought of it lol
@@FreddyKruegerTheDreamDemon right, means she didnt do squat for research cuz if theres ppl who remember it I bet theres similar techniques that have been preserved either physically or in pattern to this day just like many of the late 1800's beaded crochet and laceworks available
That’s so cool!! I’m still a beginner but having tried a little of both tapestry crochet and cross stitch? I assumed it was cross stitch too. But that’s just from looking at it, I think if I’d seen the advertising I would have become confused tbh
I find her thinking that she was the first one to do it to be bull I fully believe she was just lying so that way she could build hype around this secret technique that has really been around since the 14th century there are medieval tapestries we have that used to this technique 😂
I truly wish I had picked my grandmas brain for all of her fiber art knowledge before she passed 😭
I.....girl just because the cross stitch part takes you less time and you don't personally ID as a cross stitcher doesn't stop the core design aspect of the item from being cross stitch and therefore needed to be named as such. It is a plain crochet cover with a cross stitch design, it is a hybrid project, there is no shame in calling a spade a spade.
Or a spork a spork 😂
it’s because she fundamentally doesn’t respect embroidery and cross stitch artists. HUNDREDS of us have been blocked by her for calling attention to this in the last year
@@welephantsoup im just curious do you know what kind of comments she was deleting and blocking? i dont want to think anyone was being malicious but i cant get into the headspace of blocking people if theyre not saying anything rude and if it was an honest misunderstanding...
@@minak5429 Before she blocked me I silently watched dozens of cross stitch comments appear and disappear 20 min later. Some were aggressive (but still correct), some absolutely accused her of lying, and others were just questioning what was happening or saying it didn’t look like any crochet stitches they had seen before. It absolutely was not a misunderstanding- it was burying her tracks. She ended up filtering specific words out of her comment sections entirely, that’s what I was testing and playing around with before she blocked me lol
The "Identifying as a cross stitcher" made me want to scream. Its not an identity, its something you create and isn't an identity, its a skill you have.
The part about this whole situation that confuses me the most is trying to gatekeep the cross stitch technique. Because I have crochet and knit patterns from the 70s that utilize it,so it's definitely not a brand new idea. To be honest there's a lot of techniques people decide to try to gatekeep that,if you search enough for it,probably have existed at some point in the past. Otherwise,it's a great pillow. And honestly the crochet community as a whole can be confusing at best.
I grew up with a cross stitched/crochet afghan on our couch. I had no idea this wasn't something that was a known technique.
I think the fluffy yarn + the hints she was dropping that it wasn't cross stitch threw a lot of people off. But I agree with the context of knowing the vid is about conteeversy I clocked it immediately
Well instead of accusing someone of gatekeeping since nothing is really new under the Sun ten why don’t they just figure it out for themselves instead of begging for patterns
@@thetruthandnothingbutthetr6484 because this person created the impression that they pioneered a never before used crotchet techniquce that replicates the color seperation of cross stitch, or so everyone thought. Evenyone wanted the pattern, because it seemed like that's the only way they would reveal to people how they did it. It's gatekeeping of information, and what's worse is it's information they didn't even have because it's just cross stitch. She created an environment where people really wanted the pattern, I don't blame people for being curious.
@@1sleepyguy42o if it was so easy to figure out then they could’ve did it and wouldn’t have needed her to tell them . I do crafting to …one of my crafts I am literally the only one that can do it at the level I’m doing it at because I don’t tell people MY technique..the materials I use and the way I do it aren’t a secret as they are things anyone can buy and that anyone can employ but I don’t have to divulge any of that . They can use their brains and figure it out just like I did. Nobody told me . I spent hours of trial and error and hundreds of dollars trying various materials and techniques to get to where I’m at …I don’t owe anyone my discoveries . Just like y’all call people gatekeeper I call people parasites for wanting to feed off the hard work of others without reciprocity
I’m only 10 minutes in but cross stitch on crochet has been done since approximately 30 seconds after the invention of crochet- it’s one of the main uses for Tunisian crochet
If you want to make something with cleaner pixels I recommend alternating front post double crochet and back post dc every other row. It makes perfectly stacked pixels and has a nice ribbed look it’s perfect for tapestries and I don’t see many folks doing it. There’s also knotted half double crochet but I may be getting the name wrong- it’s similar but has a different look for those who don’t like the ribbed look. I recommend buying The Hooktionary for different stitches to use in your color work and general tips plus tons of amazing charts.
seems like a cool idea, but i think maybe the ribbed effect is something many people would rather not have in a pixel art project, and why her work was popular. Regardless, thank you for sharing!
I don't know if anyone will see this, or even care, BUT for anyone curious, the pattern is now $8, the page with the design description no longer seems to be written by A.I. and includes things like weight of yarn, and tools needed/recommended, and the pattern itself is now listed as a Crochet AND Cross-stitch pattern. The actual pattern itself also seem A LOT more like other patterns I myself have bought, and now includes a colour-coded diagram of the pattern to use when cross-stitching. Overall I think you made an excellent point in your conclusion by saying this was just a person doing something new for the first time and not ready for how, honestly, VICIOUS some people in the crafting communities can be. It seems like Ezlyh really learned from this
She's still a scammy person. I personally would never support anyone after knowing this about her.
Jadas energy when delivering her stardew valley expertise is exactly the energy that playing stardew valley gives
I howled, that energy is my Stardew energy exactly "Who is looking after this baby? I NEED TO MINE"
I was playing Stardew Valley when I got the notification for this video and I laughed out loud. Was not expecting this particular crossover of interests today.
Same! I’ve been back into playing daily since the update :)
Same here, I see we're all having fun exploring 1.6 :)
Me too hahahahahaha
same here HAHA
I'm currently updating my whole mod list (it's pain)
You can tell which commenters actually saw the thread(and receipts!) and who relied on this video. lmao. The designer explicitly lied about the technique, deleted comments informing others it wasn't a 100% crochet pattern, and changed the description after getting heat.
This is the first time I've actually been involved in fibre drama (my friend bought the pattern after we followed its development for months and we were going to buddy-crochet it together) and it's super disappointing how dismissive a lot of these comments are.
I do not think Emma got the point of this drama across by obscuring it with discussion of other issues like gatekeeping. They should have talked to the creator of the Reddit post (or anyone who bought the pattern/anyone who commented on Reddit). We only heard from the pattern creator (and Emma, who doesn't play Stardew so wasn't hyped for this pattern), so we're missing a big chunk of the story. Emma even advertises ezlyh in the description and doesn't link the Reddit post! Which is absolutely wild if you're trying to cover a story without bias.
There's also the weird and ironic gatekeeping vibes with "well I know it's cross-stitching just by looking!!!!!" implying people are dumb for not knowing when the pattern was being explicitly advertised as not cross stitching.
I'm not angry with ezlyh personally, didn't comment on this anywhere else and would never send her hate (and people who wanted refunds got them, so), I just think this video does Not Get It because Emma clearly doesn't care about this pillow/IP and they can do much better.
Literally I commented on her post “inb4 future made in the moment video” 😂she’d say it’s yarn under! Idk how anyone who crochets can say they don’t know what cross stitch is and to pretend it’s a technique they invented and then sit back and rely on people commenting “ I could tell it was cross stitch” to dodge complaints about false advertising 😅😂😂
Very shady.
Definitely. For once in my life I know the story in its entirety, and seeing how Emma covered it (without mentioning the sketchy behavior such as deleting comments calling her out, straight up lying saying there was no cross stitch, and adding/changing info to the pattern and her own TT and IG profiles only after being called out) makes me question her thoroughness and objectivity in stories she has covered in the past.
This comment feels very gatekeepy
@@RosieG9012 ?
she didn't just "gatekeep" she straight up lied and misled people on purpose, she can't play dumb
and blocked those that correctly identified and called out what was happening!
But at least she gave refunds. Sadly some do not
Yeah exactly. She seems genuinely remorseful and thought it was standard for companies to lie about their work to keep company secrets@@MaryAnnSweetAngel
@@MaryAnnSweetAngelshe probably only gave them to prevent further backlash because the backlash when people realized it was actually just a cross stitch pattern with a basic pillow pattern was immense just like I believe she lied about thinking that she was the only one doing her technique to the point of even pretending to do color changes for a TikTok The traditional way just so she could feel like some crochet genius
oh stop if you pretend you didn't know then you are dumb.
The cross stich classism is so real - i have the closest to a degree in Traditional Handcrafts that can be had in my country and ho boy did the embroidery teachers haaaate cross stich, some of them down right banned it
I had no idea people had a problem with it. It makes me want to take up cross stitch out of spite for the handcraft snobs of the world 😅
Some people just really hate when a skill is more accessible for people to learn cuz they think it makes it less "special" I guess?? It's ridiculous. Like there's nothing wrong with a craft having a lower barrier to entry. Something being easy to start to learn doesn't devalue it but some people act like it does T.T I wish I had picked up cross stitching ages ago cuz following a pattern is really relaxing, doesn't hurt my wrist the way crochet and knitting does, and I can actually follow the written patterns without needing to consult youtube tutorials as often with beginner stuff! It helps build confidence!
I'm sorry, but saying she didn't call it a 'cross-stitch pattern' because she doesn't identify as a cross stitcher (but she will if it 'makes people happy') is so dumb. It's not an identity, it's a description of the product she is selling.
(edited) 'i dont identify as a cross-stitcher' was soo funny to me like okay?? i mend my clothes sometimes but it doesnt mean i identify as a 'seamstress' - yet it doesnt change the fact that i did sew a button back up - its not a matter of seing yourself as something just the technique you utilised lol
like, doesnt identify as a cross stitcher?? if thats not the most smooth brain thing i’ve heard
STRAIGHT UP💀💀
@@arashibaka "sewer" 😂 "an underground conduit for carrying off drainage or waste matter ....." I think you mean a Tailor or seamstress 😉
@@mysikind8076 oops english isnt my native language as you might have guessed haha ty!
i will say it feels odd given that there is an official Stardew Valley Cross Stitch Guide. also, as someone who doesn’t cross stitch but does do perler bead stuff + diamond art, not a fan of just. taking the pixel art from the game, making very minor edits, and selling as your own when that is all visible online, and again, is sold officially via FanGamer.
Is the same design on fangamer or just the chickens?
idk it makes sense to use the exact pixel art from the game to me because its more appealing to fans of the game. you look at it and know its instantly a stardew valley chicken not just any random pixel art chicken. plus seeing the exact pixels recreated in a craft material is part of what makes the product kinda ‘novel’ imo
Idk i think its kinda weird to focus on official brand like that, if you prefer buying the official thing thats cool and understandable but idk its just weird to keep sweing this argument cuz like, okay? Idk i just orefer supporting small buisiness (not talking the arrist spoke abt in the video as they are being manipulative) but just in general. A corp that big doesnt need even more funds funneled this way, and no this isbt just abt you haha. Feel the need to say that but im just talking in general
@@Ecstacy333 but concernedape is one person? He definitely gets his share of the merch.its his game
@@spacegirlsgf I believe it’s just the chickens (I’ve been meaning to pick up the book but haven’t had the funds) but it’s still like just the assets from the game
The Stardew intermission was a hoot, that’s really how it is playing the game.
Agreed! Jaida should make Stardew Valley videos regularly!
the moment jaida started talking about stardew valley it just threw me back to when i lost two weeks of my life to it. i had an excel sheet and everything👀
I’m not even into the drama yet but crocheting a plain pillow and cross stitching on top is such a fire idea, I might steal that myself lmao
Crossover of the century! Stardew is such a cozy game but crochet drama is alway so intriguing! I bet this will be good
When it comes to whether they should have used AI for their product description or not, I think it was fine for her to use ChatGPT to get a first draft to save time, but then she should have gone through to proofread and edit. It’s silly to assume it’s gonna just give you a perfect end product, especially with something that will include technical terminology where small differences in language mean very different things.
thank yooouuu. i wish people stopped acting like chatgpt is every gonna give you exactly what you need. you're still gonna need to edit it.
this. Especially as a crafter, they should understand that writing (whether creative or technical or academic) is also a craft. As a writer and former writing tutor myself, this devaluation of writing by artists and crafters themselves annoys me a lot.
Yeah it was painfully obvious that the description was written by AI. The flowery, fluffy language makes me cringe.
Nope. If people are going to get all up in arms over pattern designers getting ripped off by AI, they can bloody well have some respect for writers too. It would have cost her 5 bucks on fivvr to get a real human to write that description if she was too lazy to do it herself. I'm tired of every other artist's work being guarded, but everyone's willing to steal from writers. QUIT UISING AI PEOPLE!
Telling buyers that they aren't allowed to make money off of the item they make from your pattern while making money off that same pattern BECAUSE it uses IP that you weren't allowed to use is WILD.
The stardew creator has said he's OK with independent small batch artists making money off the IP. A created pattern being used by many to sell falls under a gray area so I think it makes sense she said that.
New levels of delulu
@@a-plansit doesn’t tho, only the creator of the IP can say that. She can’t use it herself and then tell others she can’t, it’s hypocritical because she doesn’t own it. And if people have paid for her patter, legally they are allowed to make and sell off of it, you are protected by law if you purchased the pattern and can’t be subject to copyright. If people were trying to resell her written pattern, she can sue because that is her intellectual material. But simply selling a product that you make from a pattern you bought, you are protected under law to do so. That’s why you’re allowed to buy sewing patterns from the shop, and sell the clothes you make from them
@wyltedleavesbut the pattern isn’t a creative work on its own, it’s just stolen pixel art
Well yeah, logically. It's illegal to copy copied work.
I remeber seeing one of her posts a month or two ago and someone said in the comments called it exactly what it was (cross stitch on crochet), said she was gatekeeping and lying about her technique. Mans really got hit with the gift of prophesy 💀
That heat seeker tapestry though. 👀
Stunning work.
i've designed a few knitting patterns and my job now is selling stitch markers on etsy so my thoughts -
1-IP infringement can be serious, i know etsy removes stuff and can ban shops if they do it too much and some companies care WAY more than others (think... disney and taylor swift) and you can get in legal trouble. it's good to at least think about it and try to get permission first
2-i probably include too many details in pattern descriptions but i calculate the total number of stitches (for items like hats with multiple sizes, i do that for every size...) i list every supply needed, i talk about techniques and individual stitches used so there's NO surprises. it seems not great if they didn't specify outright on the pattern listing all of this stuff, or at least materials and techniques... it's misleading
3-i always let people (but not larger companies, without talking to me) sell items they made from my patterns, with the condition that they don't try to claim the design as their own (since, you know, i made it up....) and to direct anyone interested in making it to my shop/site, even if it's a free pattern. it's ironic they said people can't sell it, when they're using IP that's also not theirs and selling it..... i'd feel different if it was free and had a tip or "pay what you want" option so they could still make money on it but in a less direct way
i hope they keep designing and get more accurate with descriptions, at the very least they seem to have a talent for actually making the stuff - it looks so neat and cleanly done
part of why i always let people sell the stuff (and mention it in the patterns) is because it's less confusing for everyone (they don't need to try to contact me and ask) and because it can really rub people the wrong way to open a pattern they paid for to see "DO NOT SELL THE THINGS YOU MAKE" - in some cases that makes sense, in others it doesnt, but in most cases it just feels weird and almost rude?
like, if you say "please ask permission before selling things you make using my pattern, because i don't want my pattern stolen by big companies" then people would understand WAY more
especially because it's so common for someone to make something for themself, realize that they don't actually like it (like the sweater looks nice but fits them weird, or it's just not exactly as expected, or they just never end up wearing it) and try to sell it so they can get some money for their materials and time, and i think that kind of thing should be allowed. it just feels so controlling to tell people they can't sell something they put time, effort, and materials into, assuming they're not producing it in bulk or something
11:51 I read her statement -- "not to be sold as your own" -- to mean that items made with the pattern shouldn't be sold as if they're the crafter's own original design.
Do you think it could be read that way, or is this a common way that some pattern-makers word their requests not to sell items made with their patterns?
I've never purchased a commercially-produced pattern so I'm not sure what the industry standards are. I find it odd that people apparently include "permissions" warnings in their patterns, telling people to not sell items made from the patterns!
@@MM-jf1megiven her thinking cross-stitching on crochet was proprietary information and that she should gate keep it, I wouldn’t give her the benefit of it being poor wording and that she meant to just say “original design by X” in any product listings. Before I had to stop crochet there was a pattern I really wanted to purchase but saw the creator said you could not sell anything you made using it, which completely put me off buying it, because anything I make with my own hands should be something I can sell as long as I don’t pretend I came up with the pattern.
@@MM-jf1me considering the other things, i would be hesitant to believe that was the intent behind it, but it is totally possible
it's pretty common for pattern designers to not want people to sell items made using their patterns, especially if they also sell finished items they made from their own patterns, but it's iffy on if that request carries any legal weight and it can just put people off from buying the pattern in the first place, which doesn't help either party (designer or crafter)
it's totally fair to say that large companies can't use your pattern though, as some do take people's designs and mass-produce them with no payment or credit of any kind and that's the actual threat, generally
Jeez Louise, the whole time I was watching, I assumed the pattern sold for less than five bucks. Fifteen is wild given the full story
woat?! 😳
$15 is the price of STARDEW VALLEY THE GAME! imagine thinking that ur ai generated pdf of pixel art from a game is worth the same price as that game...
Idk this just seems like somebody that’s inexperienced and made some missteps. She was really receptive and understanding of the criticism and immediately issued refunds to people that were upset. I think her projects are adorable and the drama was a little over the top, I feel bad for her.
I agree with both of y'all -- I think she purposefully lied to people to try to "protect" what she thought was a trade secret (not the best behavior, but not terribly uncommon) and later learned (or decided) that her technique wasn't unique enough to be a secret and so created a pattern for sale, including a line about it having cross-stitched elements.
Probably wouldn't've been such a big deal if she'd advertised it on her social media with an announcement post like, "My pixel-perfect secret is out! To everyone who guessed that I embroidered the cute chickens atop my crocheted pillow: you were right! I was trying to keep it hush-hush as a "trade secret" but decided that was a bit silly. Now I want to share my technique with all of you in my first-ever pattern! etc."
The issue was her not being forthcoming in the past and then not over-advertising that detail to correct the public's misconception (that she had intentionally fostered).
I would feel cheated had I been one of her hyped-up, unwary customers. I'm glad she's been offering refunds and revised the pattern listing to ensure future customers knew exactly what they were buying. In the grand scheme of things, I think this was a forgivable misstep.
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Completely agree.
no, she lied. in response to questions asking her if it was cross stitch, she said it wasn’t but rather a “special technique”. 🙄
@@MM-jf1mei absolutely agree. Especially considering the massive pressure from the other people who make a living on your same craft to gate keep everything they can so their way of life can continue. It's in every art industry. I think she didn't advertise that it had the cross stitch because of those pressures but she still added a line about it in the description so, for that id say all forgiven. It was her first pattern. Mistakes are bound to happen and she pretty clearly learned from and resolved them. People seem to be talking like everything she did was so easy but I wouldn't expect better judgement from any of them if they had only just tried selling something new for the first time.
I think she was very quick to be "receptive" and "understanding of criticism".... once the backlash to her pattern hit her hard enough to hurt. But for weeks ahead of that, she was deliberately misleading people and deleting comments that criticized what she was doing, so, I kind of doubt that she was very receptive or understanding of criticism.
As someone who crochets and cross stitches, I can see why she felt she needed to gate-keep the technique when she was only selling products. This is because once I confirmed that this pattern was a basic pillow with a cross-stitched design I could completely recreate all of their products without needing to know the pattern using only a photo. Of course, I would never do this, but I am certain many people would recreate and sell their products without giving credit and the original creator wouldn't get any compensation in return. As soon as I saw these I immediately started thinking of doing cross-stitched pillows with other designs on them and if many people did this it would have taken away from their shop in a very competitive and truly overpopulated field. It also stated in the description once they started to sell the pattern that the color changes were cross stitching so even though some may be disappointed that they could have ripped off the pattern or technique without spending money if they had known before, I don't think they were being intentionally misleading once they started selling patterns. And again they never needed to be open about their techniques in the first place before starting to sell patterns. Maybe they shouldn't have replied to the comments if they weren't going to tell the truth but not everyone in the crafting community has to be open about every step of making their product. Most other kinds of businesses are extremely secretive about their techniques.
Its a bummer that we are collectively saying "well its not uncommon so its forgivable" to intentionally lying to scam folks out of money. In this economy people save their precious pennies for very coveted purchases. Yeah corporations and influencers who are out of touch will regularly resort to this but lets not normalize small businesses and regular human beings scamming each other because its "normal" or "common". Lets make it not common. Lets not rob folks of money.
As someone who cross stitches, I immediately thought it was cross stitch and that the video was going to be about the crochet community coming for cross stitchers 😂😂 (Please do make your cross stitches all go the same way if you do this pattern! It looks messy and bad when they don’t match.)
$15???????? For WHAT?!?!
I definitely instantly thought it was cross stitched over the sc but i can definitely understand how people would be upset because that listing was bs
Jaida's commentary 😂 beautifully chaotic. I love it.
my favorite part of this is Jaida's rant about stardew valley cause i am also the type of person who can go on unhinged rants about my favorite video games if prompted
I dont know what took so long for me to discover your channel but this kind of content is just what i needed. Thank you!
When I saw the title of this video, I was like, “how is this real?” I’m not sure why I clicked on it, and I can’t believe I watched the whole thing and enjoyed myself since I know nothing of this community or drama. 😂 Your stardew correspondent is hilarious, and now I want to re-learn to crochet (my mom taught me when I was a kid).
imo if you're uncertain about releasing your first pattern you shouldn't be asking 15 dollars for it. I've released a few patterns and sometimes i don't dare ask money for it cause i'm insecure about them.
(and lets be honest: Stardew Valley uses pixel art game sprites and turning those into cross stitch or any alpha pattern isn't that impressive.)
$15 for a Pattern is crazy, I buy patterns for these entire complex design sweaters on etsy for $5
the GAME is $15! this pattern is worth $3 at best and I'd still be mad I paid $3 for chatgpt to tell me it's cross stitch after you explicitly told people it wasn't. knowing it's cross stitch and having access to a photo would enable most intermediate/advanced crocheters to copy by eye and some counting lmao. there is no pattern needed unless you're a total beginner, and if you're writing for total beginners you should not even TOUCH Ai!!
I'm a 34 year old man, how did I look at that and immediately go "that looks like it's cross stitched" I haven't held yarn in my hands in two decades?!?
I have not done cross stitch in two decades but I do crochet and yup 👍 it’s immediately recognizable if 1) you’re familiar with cross stitching and 2) you’re not actively being gaslit and lied to that there’s some way to recreate that in crochet.
This is an understandable mistake though, bc you can recreate an approximation of pixel art (or cross stitch) using Tunisian crochet or crochet faux knit patterns and other types of knots in crochet but, it doesn’t look THAT much like the real thing when you really look at it. It’s reasonable to think it’s possible especially when someone is showing you an example and showing you videos and telling you it’s a new technique and YES, it REALLY IS crochet! When it’s not.
But sure, without context, you’d probably just assume it’s cross stitch if you know what that looks like.
Its timne to piuck upo the yarn
her response is so weird, it's like she's apologizing without completely owning up to the fact that she was lying about how her work. like yes, she admits she gate-kept the cross-stitching at first but then later claims she doesn't know anything about cross-stitching and never thought about it being a part of her work so that's why she didn't include it in the pattern marketing. she even says in that DM that she's not a cross-stitcher, "well i guess i am? now?". Like why are you being coy about it? you've been cross-stitching this whole time lol.
12:00 depending on the site, this is very cut-and-dry in the 3D printing community. for example, you can commission a designer to create a 3D model of a prop or weapon from a video game. however, that model is then their copyright, NOT yours. you can print it for yourself, but legally cannot then go on to sell prints of that design. i’m sure there are ways to involve the creator as far as paying them a cut of whatever you sell, but that is at the discretion of the model designer.
doesn’t matter if the design is based on an existing property like Stardew Valley. you are using a tool provided to you that is not meant to be used for merchandisable purposes. it’d be like commissioning a piece of original art from a painter, making prints of it, and selling them on the street. sure, you paid for the commission and materials to recreate it, but the intellectual property is not your own.
Really great video. The Cross Stitch community has alot of those same dramas, and i was so surprised it was in the crochet community too. Everything always gets messy when money is involved.
Girl is crying about being “forced” to “identify” as a cross stitcher??? Gurl it’s not that serious 😭😭
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uhh I think it was more about the general backlash/anger directed towards her mistakes rather than specifically about what she's called online.
right? I get feeling the backlash and feeling attacked somewhat but that was a really weird way of saying things, relax pal, you can be a crocheter and do crosstich, just say so and understand why people get mad.
As a cross-sticher... I feel offended! LOL We are valid too... a bit square? maybe? Kinda 2D? yeah...
She probably was forced because calling herself a crochet artist made ppl angry because it’s now “false advertising” like I’m sorry but without the crochet part of that pillow it wouldn’t be a pillow it would just be cross stitch and even then she probably doesn’t know what stitches she does. I feel like calling a crochet artist that makes stuffed animal with a lot of cross stitch designs a “cross stitch artist” would make no sense. She probably genuinely felt pushed pressured and hated on because she even used the word crochet. I feel sad for her cause getting That much hate for a legitimate hobby and small business. It’s so sad.
I can't stand AI. Not because if the product in itself but what people make of it. I firmly believe it is wrong and unethical to use whatever AI produces as an end product instead of an extra help that needs to be edited or a reference (yes I'm looking at you AI "artists"). That's what happened here. She should have read and edited her description to fit the product instead of just using whatever came out of the prompt.
Yeah, in these cases I see AI as more of a "base" to work on, or just some inspiration for the final product. Never to actually BE the final product
Most of those AI generators are also trained on/pull from stolen work, making them even more unethical. In no way should they ever be used as a final product, as it's basically plagiarism with extra steps. As a reference I still think morally it's really iffy, but a reference to create true original work is significantly better than slapping your name on some stolen work farted out by an AI and calling it "art" and calling yourself the "artist" (AI art is not art and AI "artists" are not artists)
@@Izzy-cp8ytAdding to this, cause it needs to be broadcasted and well known, ai images and texts cannot be copyrighted and 'owned' by whoever wants to claim it as their 'art'.
In the US, the courts agreed that without a human hand there is no copyright. Artificial intelligence isn't human. I'm assuming it all falls into public domain.
The vast majority of people that use AI for that sort of stuff are lazy people that would never proof read or at least change the prompt response.
@@wayIessunfortunately not the case in a lot of places- speaking from a UK standpoint, apparently AI generated images do fall under intellectual property laws seeing as the process of creating prompts etc. Is a human activity done with creative intent etc.
I agree it really seems like AI generated stuff shouldn't be subject to copyright laws, but that's just apparently the way things are. :/ (Source- I'm an AI ethics student, and we recently had a guest lecture on AI and Copyright law)
This feels like part of a greater issue in the crafting world of folks who have fairly recently picked up a craft deciding to teach others without doing any research. Looking at a few books or patterns from well-established makers would have helped this creator see what they need to include in a pattern and that adding cross stitch decoration isn't a revolutionary, "proprietary" technique. So many newish makers seem set on badly reinventing the wheel instead of consulting the many decades, centuries, or even millenia of expertise that came before them.
I am both An Old and a professor, so I particularly see the value in research, but to me it also suggests that k-12 education in the US, at least, is really letting people down in terms of developing research skills. There's so much on the internet today, but the internet is also not the only repository of information. As fiber arts folks it's important for us to remember that our forebears were smart, and that there's almost nothing in terms of fiber arts techniques that hasn't already been invented, if only because our predecessors' lives literally depended on being able to effectively make clothing and other fiber goods.
It doesn't seem she WANTED to teach things to others, she was selling her products, but people kept asking her how she did, so she decided to profit on it.
@samanthaabreu782 true and fair. I still don't think that's any excuse for not properly describing the techniques used in the pattern description
Honestly, the community is why i switched from crochet to sewing. The community is soooo much nicer and helpful
I just wanna say this is my first video I’ve seen from you and I’ve never been more intrigued than seeing a craft drama RUclips channel. Will be watching every video now
STOP STOP MY WILLPOWER TO NOT SHAVE MY HEAD IS ALREADY DEAD
😂😂 right there with ya
Do it! I did it in 2022 one of my favourite things I've ever done with my hair
DO IT ‼️‼️‼️
Unless it's a safety or job issue, do it! It's hair, it'll grow back as long as you care for your scalp.
Let the impulsive thoughts win
What's really interesting about this designer is that it is close to a cross stitch design another creator made (NeedlesAndNightshade). The chickens and the border (except the flowers) look almost the same.
Did they put the pattern on bracelet book cause I've seen it there
@@rowanellis6308 Is that the one ez said she emailed the person to take it down? I wonder what the result of that was
@@lordtetteit was indeed deleted, as matter of fact, 3 patterns from the same uploader were.
As someone who's from the cross-stitch, friendship bracelet and stardew valley communities, it really gives me the ick because the patters were almost, if not, exact replicas from the sprites in the game, which also has a book full of cross stitch patterns.
It’s a shame they were deleted from braceletbook bc it wasn’t behind a paywall there
I was so invested in Jaida’s commentary about Stardew Valley. I totally forgot we were talking about crochet! 😂
saaaame 😂
Thank you. All other comments are burying the lead I don’t play this game at all, but she was great and had me going should I?
@@judykolar9029you absolutely should!!! one of my favourite games of all time, there’s so much you can do on it and it’s so replayable. and don’t even get me STARTED on all of the mods for it 😂
The end had me HOOKED, I was like, I need to hear the rest of this rant now!
Jaida is amazing 🤣
Jaida definitely captured the “I started playing and Stardew and it’s my life now” vibe. I know because I’m living it!
i bought this pattern SO FAST because i like stardew and i had never seen color change that looked that clean. needless to say, i was SO disappointed to realize it was just cross stitch, because it was also way more expensive than your average pattern?? and obviously cross stitch is WAY easier than some new tapestry crochet stitch. happy to know other people were also upset
it is sometimes worrying about how gatekeep-y the community can be. I feel as though a lot of times getting into fiber arts can be intimidating because there’s a lot of potential wrath if you make a mistake.
Such a privileged first world problem. This kind of people have too much free time. 😅
The trick is not to engage with weirdos online. I've been "in the fibre arts community" for years, as has my mother and her friends, and none of us had ever heard of any of this drama stuff.
Right? I was considering crochet as a hobby but all these people took a mistake (something she probably didn't think too heavily on then just panicked when the intense wave of people reacting hit her) and they're showing zero signs of understanding not everyone's a skilled business person or know the ins and outs on what's allowed. Safe to say it's put me off.
@@TonksTheFool I promise that you can completely avoid all this drama. Drama is niche even within this niche sphere. I've been using ravelry for years, and never encountered any of the things covered on this channel.
Online communities and fandoms are the worst when it comes to gatekeeping or lists of arbitrary, unspoken, and non-agreed-upon "rules". In reality every fandom or community is too diverse to expect everybody to act perfect according to what you or the next person considers to be the standards of what is and isn't acceptable in xyz fandom/group/community.
As a passionate stardew valley fan, crocheter and someone who works in IT i feel like this video was custom made for me😂 please if you’re spying on me - stop it, I’m scared!
But in all seriousness great video, I appreciate how respectful and civil you always are when describing this niche drama:)
i stopped watching emma in the moment to watch the new emma in the moment video
edit: i used to cross-stitch and immediately thought something was “fishy” about this pillow because it looks like a cross stitch piece! makes so much sense to learn it’s just a crocheted pillow with color cross stitched on top. i’ll definitely be using this technique but I definitely think the instructions/description were a little deceiving, whether intentional or not
I’ve been crocheting for a long time I had no idea the community had drama
you know, this game was my comfort game throughout the pandemic (i'd log off zoom and play stardew for four hours straight each day i had class) but this video was the first time i've ever seen a picture of concernedape. i always just pictured him as his pfp.
I dont crochet but I do cross stitch. I would be pretty mad to basically be duped into buying a pixel art cross stitch pattern because pixel art/sprites are the easiest things to pattern yourself.
But also the pattern itself is wrong. A blue chicken isnt simply a blue version of a white one, its tail is longer and curls up.
I mean, cross stitch is 100% the same as pixel art. Regardless of the complexity of the piece, in the end it is the same thing as pixel art.
Smaller canvas sizes, like Terraria or Stardew Valley sprites are easier to eyeball, yes. But then you have a piece like "Ruined Amalgamation" (over at Pixel Joint) that is far from 'simple'. Yet it is still 100% pixel art.
This was a RIDE of a story to listen to while I'm playing Stardew Valley with my husband. Also your hair?? Slay.
I somehow started watching your videos about drama in the crochet/knitting community having no knowledge on the topic and not caring to learn. For some reason your videos made me love crochet and want to learn so I made a wooble and am now doing my first sweater.
I LOVE your hair! I also love the knitted banner that you had behind you in the video! Congrats on reaching (and surpassing!) 100k!
tell Jaida I'm OBSESSED with her intermission and I also want Leah as my wife. Also you get a golden pumpkin every year at the festival if that elevates the stress
Team Leah
I'm shaving my head later today and was about to get cold feet about it, but you look so good I'm convinced again
good luck, I'm sure you'll look great!! :DD
I shaved my head ten years ago and it was a blast! Dooo iiiittt.
@@jfm14 I've done it before and I just did it again!!
This whole thing just gave me flashbacks to the time I bought a 13 day CAL/KAL where the crocheters didn’t receive nearly enough yarn for the base of the project and only one day was crochet/knitting and the majority of the other 12 days were cross stitch 🥲
What a nightmare, dang
That's so sad crocheters get the bad end of many sticks.
The way this channel soothes my craving for both crochet and gossip at the same time 😂 ❤
Your channel just popped up in my recommended and damn your diction is amazing. English is not my native language and I'm not fluent either, so it's great to be able to truly understand what you say without any kind of subtitles
Gorl you can get more golden pumpkins if you go through the spirits eve maze each year 😭😭😭 also the correct answer is Alex bc his loved gifts are too damn annoying to get a bunch of -- complete breakfast? more like "I'm trying to complete my maxed out friendship and you are standing in my way."
I always use the first one in the sewing machine to get a witch hat for my horse haha
Give Alex eggs... They are the first thing you get from the first purchasable animal...
@@ShinyShilla Yeah but that’s only a liked gift, not a loved gift - gotta go fast, gotta min-max 🏃♀️ /j
$15 for a first-time pattern is WILD.
I loved your Open Source analogy; I was peripheral to the OS community for a few years and strongly believe in the philosophy. That's probably why I tend to look up and make mostly free patterns. I also feel like if a pattern is free, I have more leeway to spend that money on some nicer yarn for it (especially from a LYS and/or local dyer). If I find a paid pattern I really like, I feel more like getting more budget friendly yarn.
can we take a moment for the hair
edit: making 1 million accounts so i can feel the soft hair
It looks fantastic with the glasses
Brief pause for this iconic look... like truly she is the moment.
10/10 looks fantastic, slay
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We can, we must, so we will!👏 💜
I love your hair, looks really great! Also, I'm having a bit of a difficult day so an obscure niche drama video was exactly what I needed thanks 😊
Ok but Dylan's bullet journal class (beyond being actually life changing) literally brought me to grateful tears because she's just such a genuinely wholesome and real person
Everything else aside, I took psychic damage from the way you pronounced “Clefairy” at 1:02 😂
Lol I’m kidding, thanks for covering this!! Although I knit and crochet, I’m not super involved in online spaces, so it’s always wild to hear what’s going on.
(But seriously, it’s more like “cluh-fairy”)
Oops 😮
@@deszalt4492 just to clarify, I mean it as good-natured teasing.
Also, I forgot to mention it in my first comment, but your hair looks freaking amazing.
I specifically remember at the time someone asked if it was cross stitch and the designer said no. That's why so many people felt ripped off.
saw the thumbnail and needed to tell you i love your hair! i buzzed mine recently and i’m trying to grow it out now 😭 but it’s definitely a look and a joy to maintain.
I have never played and have no desire to play Stardew Valley, but I would could listen to Jaida paassionately infodump about Stardew for hours lol, that was so wholesome and such pure joy
People are throwing around “trade secrets” like they’re an apprentice from Japan who have learned an esoteric forging method thats 500+ years old. “Gatekeeping” is a more complicated issue.
If you’re selling it and you lie about *WHAT THE PRODUCT IS,* you’re just scamming people. It’s a cute pillow, but you lied about it and claimed it was a “business tactic.” Nowadays sellers all over are bragging about authentic craft-secrets in their advertising; it sets them apart.
I'm sorry, but if someone really thinks they invented or is the only person doing duplicate stitch they're either lying or so new they have no business publishing designs yet.
I have a sinus infection. It’s pouring raining while I’m at work. Emma posts crochet drama…I’m thrilled. I can go on…😂lol 😭😭😭
You have my deep and sincere sympathy; sinus infections are the worst! "Miserable" doesn't begin to describe it.
I sympathize with you I'm also having a sinus infection, I don't think I'll be working though , so props to you on that. Anyways, hope you have a steady recovery.
As an artist and crocheter, here are some of my thoughts:
- The creator didn't just "hide" that the pillow was made with crosstitching, she actively denied it and misled people in her comments who asked about it.
- I understand wanting some assistance with writing descriptions, but she should have at LEAST edited them and included more info about the actual pattern itself. However, I really don't like the use of generative AI for any reason because it's so highly unethical.
- $15 for a bare bones plain pillow pattern with missing info and a cross stitch pattern is egregiously overpriced.
- Her keeping people from selling goods made from this pattern is rich considering she doesn't own the IP in the first place.
- Overall it seems like she's trying to cover her own ass instead of taking responsibility for her mistakes. Beginner mistakes or not, I personally would have a hard time trusting a creator like this and probably wouldn't support them in the future.
I agree with all of these points, yes!
That is why I was so confused in the first place. This was the first I ever heard of this "drama," but I really can't shake why anyone is selling protected IP anyways. I sell on Etsy so this is just like calling the cops when someone steals your bag after you shoplifted it.
I'm impressed at how far I had to scroll before anyone brought up AI. I knew we'd start accepting it without question as soon as it looked good enough - I think we might have had more of a chance if we'd led with its ethics (and no, unfortunately few were going to care about artists), but the fact most people just said it looked bad was very telling
I do sewing and cross stitch (never dabbled in Crochet). Some of the deceptive practices the big brand sewing pattern makers used to engaged in is absolutely insane. They tried to restrict how you used the pattern and the garment/toy you'd make from said pattern. These are some of the most egregious I remember seeing:
"You must buy a new pattern for each instance of the garment you make."
"You are not permitted to wear the garment in public."
"You cannot sell the final product to anyone else. But you are allowed to make it for immediate family members."
She's allowed to stop people selling pillows with her pattern because even it the subject matter isn't her own, the design and pattern is hers by copyright.
What’s wild is I immediately could tell that was cross-stitch, but maybe that’s cause I’ve been crocheting and know what it looks like vs other techniques. You can also tell cause of the depth in the stitches. Plus she included it in the description. Once again, people don’t read and cause an outrage for no freaking reason.
That said, the creator did make it worse by intentionally misdirecting.
i did not realise i needed a commentary crafting channel until now. thank you for your service
It’s a little absurd to me that the creator thought she was the first person to ever think of crossstitching over single crochet. My mom used to create designs this way in the 70s. It’s possible that she was just uninformed, but it seems presumptuous and even a little egotistical.
I think 0:23 applies to a LOT of online “communities”. I think it’s one thing to encourage people to lurk a bit and see how things go, but way too often, I see this jump to hostility for people who don’t immediately fall in line. A lot of in-group/out-group level nonsense.
Jada's interlude on Stardew Valley was a documentary masterpiece. Always love a Jada appearance!
i am OBSESSED with your hair! You look absolutely fantastic!!!
3:18 Ah yes, the only person in the world who embroiders. What an honor.