I play primarily two-player so you're my go to guy when looking for new games. The only problem is you're costing me a fortune by reviewing all these great games!
Love your runthroughs! You're solely responsible for my growing collection of games, I really enjoy being able to watch them played by a person, who will make mistakes like myself, before I buy it. Also made my friend watch your runthroughs, that's all she's doing now, planning what game to buy next. Just wanted to throw that out there. Oh, and I do believe that the dog on Jen's fav. house isn't a greyhound but rather an irish wolfdog. :)
Rahdo, at 26:11 you lay Jen's Apprentice Hall til. I noticed that the road of her Home tile is not connected with a road on the Apprentice Hall tile. Is that allowed? The rulebook seems to stipulate that this is forbidden...
+rahdo I have been playing this on BGA over the past few days. I cannot believe you two Carebears would enjoy this at all. It can be absolutely, diabolically nasty! You can be blocked all the time, and when you are one step behind your opponent you are done for! Love the game...but I wouldn't have thought you cuddlies would enjoy it!
+jaxommm Is it really that harsh? From what i can see in Richard his walkthrough you CAN be harsh, but it don't have to be? Maybe that is way Jen and Richard do like it that much?
I was just able to play this game for the first time and I loved it. Thanks a lot for your gameplay video, helped me quite a bit playing it for the first time. Love your videos!!!
Hi radho. I just got my copy of keyflower. I just have a question about transporting of goods. Ex. If the number in my transport is 3. Does it mean i could transport upto 3 goods for a total of 3 moves. Like i could transport 1 goods for 2 space and 2 goods for 1 space. And could i do the transport even if the tile where the goods would come from is like 5 tiles away. Thanks in advance.
Richard Guidote if you've got 3 moves, that means you can make a total of 3 moves of goods. so you could move one good 3 spaces, or three goods 1 space. or one good 2 spaces and another good 1 space. you can pick any goods anywhere in your village to move :)
***** hi. Sorry if im having a hard time getting this. But ive read a couple of forums related to this topic. There was one who said that you could move any number of resources (ex. 10 different resources in one tile) for 3 spaces. (assuming that the caravan has the number three). After reading the forum i went back and read the manual. It says and it was underlined even "number of resources". So the number that appears on the caravan should indicate the maximum number of resource but not the movement. Or im just getting this all wrong?
Richard Guidote here's an example from the rules on pg6: "For example if the transport capacity is two, then two resources can be moved along one road to an adjacent tile(s), or one resource can be moved two tiles." :)
***** yup. Thats the example given in the rulebook. But this i think is where the confusion starts. Well for some people like me. Its a two solid examples on how to move and deliver goods. But the example is not enough to cover all the bases of what could and couldnt be done. I guess my initial understanding of the rules is spot on. Just got confused after reading so many forum. Anyway, could you just answere this. Could you or couldnt you transfer 5 resources 3 tiles if the number in the caravan is 3?
Richard Guidote hmm, you've confused me with your question there. when you say resource tiles, you mean the little barrels, right? the tiles (saw/anvil/etc) don't have to be transported at all... they effectively teleport around (the tools are small enough to carry by hand, so you don't need a wagon to transport them)
In the summer, what happens if you place a worker on a boat that's come out in the centre, instead of bidding on it? Does that give you colour-agnostic or road-ignoring powers? If so, for how long?
+Angshuman Chakraborty nothing would happen because there's no 'worker activated action' that those tiles produce, so you'd be throwing your workers away basically
I too play a lot of board games with the mrs. In our quest to find a new game, I stumbled upon your reviews on bgg.com and saw this as your #1. No second guessing I instantly purchased and should receive it in a few days. I'm psyched for it! Thanks for the vid; very informative! My wallet does not thank you lol.
Rahdo, do you have plans to revisit this with the Merchants expansion, due to its vaunted two player enhancements? It always makes me side when I Google up one of your videos and discover they predate your Gameplay/Extended/Final Thoughts format.
How is the two player game? Cannot see getting this to the table here in Japan with anyone but my wife 99% of the time, so hope it plays well with 2! :P
Rahdo, at the end of the game for scoring it states "All other resources, skills and workers can be allocated as required to the other scoring tiles. No transport is required." I am not sure what this means in this context. Does it just mean that whatever resources you have left over you may now assign to a tile/tiles for the purposes of scoring. E.g. decide which meeples you will use for the purposes of scoring the apothecary?
Does anyone remember Pirates! by Sid Meier from the Eighties? I played it on my C64 and whenever a game ended with the final scoring I wanted it to not end but instead go on with me doing meaningful stuff on all my acres of land. I wonder if Keyflower is like this in that it ends as soon as you have built a nice village and managed to get an efficient engine running.
Looks like an awesome game. I may have to check this one out when I get a chance. Seems like a game where I would always want to do more than I can though, frustrating, but in a great way.
This game is really something. I just got a copy a couple weeks ago, it sounded like you'd played at least one if the other key games, are they all this good/intricate?
+Rafael Maia it's written right there: "In addition, when placing Village tiles in their Village, a player does not need to match the sides (roads, no roads and water)
Rahdo, you talk about this being one of you and your wife's favorite game. How do you put this game away? How do you fit the houses in the box? Do you break them down each time you play? Thanks for all the great videos!
+stuart shannon i've got everything in the main box. it'sa bit of a tight squeeze, i nest all the house shields together to take up the least space, then stack the tiles up, and squeeze all the other bits into the cloth draw bag :)
Also at 21:45 you say that Jen becomes the new start player... This is only half correct. The start player does not change until the start player tile is resolved. If no one has bid on that tile, the start player worker is indeed transferred automatically one player to the left, but not until after the boat tiles have been chosen. Thus, while you are correct that Jen would be the new start player for the next season, you, as the current start player, should have been the first person to choose a boat. See page 7 of your rules, items 5.a.ii-iv
yup, again, the klingon subtitles are how i annotate goofs like this. i used to use regular annotations but youtube has disabled them, so the klingon subtitle channel is what i use on all my videos to indicate goofs like this :)
TY...great walkthrough! I am duly impressed that you are able to explain the game so well even though you are clearly jacked up on some highly illegal narcotic! :P
Rahdo, at 13:38 you show that by putting a worker on the alehouse, you get another worker. However, the rulebook says that you need to put a worker to activate the Alehouse and then give an additional worker to get a worker.
you are confusing the Alehouse with the Tavern... when you have to discard something to get another thing the iconography on the tile is clear... first they show what you have to discard on the left then an arrow pointing to the right and then on the right it's the icons of what you get... if there are no arrows you just get what's in the tile no need to discard anything else
After a couple of videos of yours, I got the notion you do not prefer games where players can be mean to each other. This video made me to buy this board game, I was amazed by it, and after one 2-player game - despite the fact that I severely lost (lol) - I still am. Now, this game could be played sooo meanfully, especially in a 2-player game, yet this is in your top10, I do not understand your approach to other games you refer to as mean or cutthroat, and you don't like because of that reason. Not a single problem with that, I just don't get it, that's all. :) Cheers!
we don't consider auctions to be especially mean, because there you're not taking something away from someone, you're competing to get something that you both want :)
Thanks for the reply! I think about meanness like blocking a tile in the other's player village with a green meeple right after he or she upgraded it. That's harsh :D
yes indeed. however, KF works for us because it's a game where you can make mean moves, but you don't have to. We have an issue when the dick move is the best move, and we feel like we have to make that move to be competitive. In KF, that move you describe can be a good one, but there are probably equally good things you can do with it elsewhere. And even if you use it aggressively, your opponent has gotten a very useful tool in return (their own green meep)
I see, good point! Although (after 1 game which is nowhere enough to state something like this i know) it seems that if you do one or two bad moves the other player or the game punishes you and it becomes painfully hard to come back in the end. Regardless, lovely board game.
yup, this is noted in the klingon subtitles (i used to use on screen annotations, but youtube disabled that feature, so now i recommend everyone watch all my videos with subtitles turned on so they can see noted goofs)
All right, think I need to go ahead with that kickstarter deal. I have to admit, I'm pretty intimidated by the many different levels of this game, I'll have to watch the video again and pay close attention when I get the game. It's going to test my fiancee's attention span trying to teach her this game, I think she'll love it though. Thanks for the video!
At 27:55 you say that green workers are wild and can be used with any other color. This is not correct. Green workers are special because they are rarer. They usually are not on the seasonal boats and almost always have to be acquired through special circumstances. This makes them valuable in that since fewer players will have green workers, playing green workers on a tile makes them much more difficult to play on or bid for. boardgamegeek.com/thread/883319/are-green-workiers-wild
sadly, this is back when i was still filming with my iphone 4, and sometimes it ran out of space mid-filming, and that's what happened. here. i didn't get very far other than to say "it might be best game of the year for me" (and it turns out, it was. i guess you could consider these my final thoughts: ruclips.net/video/qLCKczFmjRM/видео.html ) :)
WHY do you have to introduce racial discord and hatred in a game that's just about Meeples building towns?!? Germans hating French who then hate someone else...etc, etc. WHY?! Why introduce racial hatred?!?! Also...please never record on a glass tabletop again. Between that and the camera (cell phone camera) shake...it made this video somewhat difficult to watch.
You apparently don't know what races are. Germans and French are of the same race, and even if they weren't, communities usually hate each other for historical, cultural or economical reasons. With the Germans and the French that's quite appropriate, considering they've fought many wars with one another over territorial and political disputes.
It's fun looking at a video 7 years old.
Your video quality has improved so much ☺️
And still I trust your reviews the most :)
I play primarily two-player so you're my go to guy when looking for new games. The only problem is you're costing me a fortune by reviewing all these great games!
This is great, it's like having Jeff Goldblum explain a game to me!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaa yeah :D Jeff is actually my favorite actor,he is the legend
Uhhhh uhh uhhh tiles... yeah...
and uuuuuuuuuuhhhh uh you know.. workers. Chaos theory confirmed!!
Love your runthroughs! You're solely responsible for my growing collection of games, I really enjoy being able to watch them played by a person, who will make mistakes like myself, before I buy it.
Also made my friend watch your runthroughs, that's all she's doing now, planning what game to buy next.
Just wanted to throw that out there.
Oh, and I do believe that the dog on Jen's fav. house isn't a greyhound but rather an irish wolfdog. :)
IDK what it is about your explanation style - but it totally makes sense to me. The rules/strategy combo always preps me well. Keep up the good work!
Spooky tiles are hovering in mid-air!
Rahdo, at 26:11 you lay Jen's Apprentice Hall til. I noticed that the road of her Home tile is not connected with a road on the Apprentice Hall tile. Is that allowed? The rulebook seems to stipulate that this is forbidden...
Gijs Boelen it's not permitted
He does end up noticing and fixing it at 29:30
So cute to hear Jen in the background choosing the boat during auction
love your videos, beats the hell out of stumbling through the manual during the first play
No summation or opinion?
+shatnershairpiece i filmed this before i was breaking games into multiple 'subvideos' so it's at the end :)
+rahdo I have been playing this on BGA over the past few days. I cannot believe you two Carebears would enjoy this at all. It can be absolutely, diabolically nasty! You can be blocked all the time, and when you are one step behind your opponent you are done for! Love the game...but I wouldn't have thought you cuddlies would enjoy it!
+jaxommm Is it really that harsh? From what i can see in Richard his walkthrough you CAN be harsh, but it don't have to be? Maybe that is way Jen and Richard do like it that much?
I was just able to play this game for the first time and I loved it. Thanks a lot for your gameplay video, helped me quite a bit playing it for the first time. Love your videos!!!
Thanks for taking the time to do this video. Very helpful!
Hi radho. I just got my copy of keyflower. I just have a question about transporting of goods. Ex. If the number in my transport is 3. Does it mean i could transport upto 3 goods for a total of 3 moves. Like i could transport 1 goods for 2 space and 2 goods for 1 space. And could i do the transport even if the tile where the goods would come from is like 5 tiles away. Thanks in advance.
Richard Guidote if you've got 3 moves, that means you can make a total of 3 moves of goods. so you could move one good 3 spaces, or three goods 1 space. or one good 2 spaces and another good 1 space. you can pick any goods anywhere in your village to move :)
***** hi. Sorry if im having a hard time getting this. But ive read a couple of forums related to this topic. There was one who said that you could move any number of resources (ex. 10 different resources in one tile) for 3 spaces. (assuming that the caravan has the number three). After reading the forum i went back and read the manual. It says and it was underlined even "number of resources". So the number that appears on the caravan should indicate the maximum number of resource but not the movement. Or im just getting this all wrong?
Richard Guidote here's an example from the rules on pg6: "For example if the transport capacity is two, then two resources can be moved along one road to an adjacent tile(s), or one resource can be moved two tiles." :)
***** yup. Thats the example given in the rulebook. But this i think is where the confusion starts. Well for some people like me. Its a two solid examples on how to move and deliver goods. But the example is not enough to cover all the bases of what could and couldnt be done. I guess my initial understanding of the rules is spot on. Just got confused after reading so many forum. Anyway, could you just answere this. Could you or couldnt you transfer 5 resources 3 tiles if the number in the caravan is 3?
Richard Guidote hmm, you've confused me with your question there. when you say resource tiles, you mean the little barrels, right? the tiles (saw/anvil/etc) don't have to be transported at all... they effectively teleport around (the tools are small enough to carry by hand, so you don't need a wagon to transport them)
In the summer, what happens if you place a worker on a boat that's come out in the centre, instead of bidding on it? Does that give you colour-agnostic or road-ignoring powers? If so, for how long?
+Angshuman Chakraborty nothing would happen because there's no 'worker activated action' that those tiles produce, so you'd be throwing your workers away basically
I too play a lot of board games with the mrs. In our quest to find a new game, I stumbled upon your reviews on bgg.com and saw this as your #1. No second guessing I instantly purchased and should receive it in a few days. I'm psyched for it! Thanks for the vid; very informative! My wallet does not thank you lol.
What about the replay value?
Thanks!
Me: "What the heck is going on with the cloth on the table?"
Also me: "I'm an idiot"
Rahdo, do you have plans to revisit this with the Merchants expansion, due to its vaunted two player enhancements?
It always makes me side when I Google up one of your videos and discover they predate your Gameplay/Extended/Final Thoughts format.
Anarchosyn yup, picked up merchants at Essen... looking forward to it! :)
How is the two player game? Cannot see getting this to the table here in Japan with anyone but my wife 99% of the time, so hope it plays well with 2! :P
Rahdo, at the end of the game for scoring it states "All other resources, skills and workers can be allocated as required to the other scoring tiles. No transport is required." I am not sure what this means in this context. Does it just mean that whatever resources you have left over you may now assign to a tile/tiles for the purposes of scoring. E.g. decide which meeples you will use for the purposes of scoring the apothecary?
yup :)
Thanks.
this is on kickstarter now in the US/ with the KeyCeleste mini expansion, for 39$ which seems like a great deal
28:44 Roads? Where we’re going we don’t need roads!…
Does anyone remember Pirates! by Sid Meier from the Eighties? I played it on my C64 and whenever a game ended with the final scoring I wanted it to not end but instead go on with me doing meaningful stuff on all my acres of land. I wonder if Keyflower is like this in that it ends as soon as you have built a nice village and managed to get an efficient engine running.
Fantastic introductory video here sir, very helpful indeed!
Looks like an awesome game. I may have to check this one out when I get a chance. Seems like a game where I would always want to do more than I can though, frustrating, but in a great way.
This game is really something. I just got a copy a couple weeks ago, it sounded like you'd played at least one if the other key games, are they all this good/intricate?
Is it my mistake, or boat 2a. allows you ONLY to transport ignoring roads? (but still must respect road adjacency on building your village) [28:47]
+Rafael Maia it's written right there: "In addition, when placing Village tiles in their Village, a player does not need to match the sides (roads, no roads and water)
+Paulo Renato Understood. Thx, Paulo!!!!
+Rafael Maia no problem :)
Rahdo, you talk about this being one of you and your wife's favorite game. How do you put this game away? How do you fit the houses in the box? Do you break them down each time you play? Thanks for all the great videos!
+stuart shannon i've got everything in the main box. it'sa bit of a tight squeeze, i nest all the house shields together to take up the least space, then stack the tiles up, and squeeze all the other bits into the cloth draw bag :)
Also at 21:45 you say that Jen becomes the new start player... This is only half correct. The start player does not change until the start player tile is resolved. If no one has bid on that tile, the start player worker is indeed transferred automatically one player to the left, but not until after the boat tiles have been chosen. Thus, while you are correct that Jen would be the new start player for the next season, you, as the current start player, should have been the first person to choose a boat. See page 7 of your rules, items 5.a.ii-iv
yup, again, the klingon subtitles are how i annotate goofs like this. i used to use regular annotations but youtube has disabled them, so the klingon subtitle channel is what i use on all my videos to indicate goofs like this :)
TY...great walkthrough! I am duly impressed that you are able to explain the game so well even though you are clearly jacked up on some highly illegal narcotic! :P
Rahdo, at 13:38 you show that by putting a worker on the alehouse, you get another worker. However, the rulebook says that you need to put a worker to activate the Alehouse and then give an additional worker to get a worker.
you are confusing the Alehouse with the Tavern... when you have to discard something to get another thing the iconography on the tile is clear... first they show what you have to discard on the left then an arrow pointing to the right and then on the right it's the icons of what you get... if there are no arrows you just get what's in the tile no need to discard anything else
Thanks. I really was confused. It is clear now :)
After a couple of videos of yours, I got the notion you do not prefer games where players can be mean to each other. This video made me to buy this board game, I was amazed by it, and after one 2-player game - despite the fact that I severely lost (lol) - I still am. Now, this game could be played sooo meanfully, especially in a 2-player game, yet this is in your top10, I do not understand your approach to other games you refer to as mean or cutthroat, and you don't like because of that reason. Not a single problem with that, I just don't get it, that's all. :) Cheers!
we don't consider auctions to be especially mean, because there you're not taking something away from someone, you're competing to get something that you both want :)
Thanks for the reply! I think about meanness like blocking a tile in the other's player village with a green meeple right after he or she upgraded it. That's harsh :D
yes indeed. however, KF works for us because it's a game where you can make mean moves, but you don't have to. We have an issue when the dick move is the best move, and we feel like we have to make that move to be competitive. In KF, that move you describe can be a good one, but there are probably equally good things you can do with it elsewhere. And even if you use it aggressively, your opponent has gotten a very useful tool in return (their own green meep)
I see, good point! Although (after 1 game which is nowhere enough to state something like this i know) it seems that if you do one or two bad moves the other player or the game punishes you and it becomes painfully hard to come back in the end. Regardless, lovely board game.
Green workers aren't wild. They're just less common so it's harder for people to bid against them/use the same spaces.
yup, this is noted in the klingon subtitles (i used to use on screen annotations, but youtube disabled that feature, so now i recommend everyone watch all my videos with subtitles turned on so they can see noted goofs)
Awww...seems your final thoughts on this one was cut short. I like your final thoughts.
Yeah, what happened there?
Green workers don't work like wilds, they work like any other Meeple they're just green, and hence a bit harder to outbid.
yup, it's noted in the klingon subtitles :)
Keyflower+Farmers vs Key to the city:London what's your favorite and why?
i drew comparisons in my final thoughts on KttC:L video
Thanks for another great playthrough! Hopefully my copy of Keyflower will arrive soon :)
Hey Rahdo,
Can you also make a video for key to the city: London?
one will be coming in the next few weeks
thank you sir. Love your vids. Too bad I havent seen you in Essen.
All right, think I need to go ahead with that kickstarter deal. I have to admit, I'm pretty intimidated by the many different levels of this game, I'll have to watch the video again and pay close attention when I get the game. It's going to test my fiancee's attention span trying to teach her this game, I think she'll love it though. Thanks for the video!
another game i'm going to have to get. too bad it's so expensive now
At 27:55 you say that green workers are wild and can be used with any other color. This is not correct. Green workers are special because they are rarer. They usually are not on the seasonal boats and almost always have to be acquired through special circumstances. This makes them valuable in that since fewer players will have green workers, playing green workers on a tile makes them much more difficult to play on or bid for. boardgamegeek.com/thread/883319/are-green-workiers-wild
yup this is noted in the klingon subtitles :)
where are the final thoughts?
sadly, this is back when i was still filming with my iphone 4, and sometimes it ran out of space mid-filming, and that's what happened. here. i didn't get very far other than to say "it might be best game of the year for me" (and it turns out, it was. i guess you could consider these my final thoughts: ruclips.net/video/qLCKczFmjRM/видео.html ) :)
How distracting is that glass top table!
Surely the nationalities would be yellow = German, red = English, blue = French and green = Irish.
+Dan Smith nice one!
No yellow would definitely be French
Thanks!
That moment when you realize this guy has an imaginary girlfriend.
faq.rahdo.com #1 :)
This game looks boring
WHY do you have to introduce racial discord and hatred in a game that's just about Meeples building towns?!?
Germans hating French who then hate someone else...etc, etc. WHY?! Why introduce racial hatred?!?!
Also...please never record on a glass tabletop again. Between that and the camera (cell phone camera) shake...it made this video somewhat difficult to watch.
You apparently don't know what races are. Germans and French are of the same race, and even if they weren't, communities usually hate each other for historical, cultural or economical reasons. With the Germans and the French that's quite appropriate, considering they've fought many wars with one another over territorial and political disputes.