It was a great pleasure for this 72 year old professional tradesman to watch your clearly presented video with instructive close-ups of materials you use. Congratulations!
I agree; there's more than one way to it, but an old journeyman showed me how to use sash chain and a length of straighened out metal wire coat hangers with a slight hook shaped bend on the end to hook the chain and pull it out of the wall. The sash chain follows it's own weight and is good for pulling wire on long runs between floors. It is difficult to do, however, when fire breaks and insulation are present. The fish poles are great, and when used with the magnets or a hanger with a hook bent in the end can be awesome. It depends on the situation, and what type of wiring application; just to give some ideas.
wats good man?I just had to tell you that are the first person really explain something to the fullest n no short cuts...Grate job can't wait to see wat u have on ur page
I want to thank you for the video, it was well put together. Easy to understand easy to follow instructions. Again thanks! I'll be watching more of your videos.
Fantastic Video !!!! This is one of the best explanation videos that I have seen on RUclips. I stumbled across it and was not even looking for how to fish wires through a wall using the latest techniques. Showing each tool using clear pictures with the names typed on them and showing each step clearly - really made this video enjoyable! You are a great teacher/instructor and should consider doing these professional instructional videos for major corporations.
Good vid man! I used to install voice and data for several years and i always carried and old tape measure in my tool bag. I cut off the stopper, with the tape measure cut on an angle, to penetrate insulation, then tapped the cut end with electrical tape. It was perfect for fishing most walls. They didn't make that magna pull back then. It was just nice having a mini fish tape that went straight up or down a wall with insulation. Regular fish tapes coil in a wall with insulation. The magna pull is pretty awesome Looking tho. I might have to pick one up! Thanks for making your vid!
Decent video (from my little experiences of pulling network cable and a few odd jobs.) My one suggestion would be to fold your piece of electrical tape back on itself after you secure the cable to the pull rod, this will prevent it from taping itself down and create less stress trying to find the end of the tape and try to pry it off. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but if you do this a lot, every little bit will help and it is a lot more frustrating than it seems.
Hey!! thanx for the showing us how to get the wires through the wall, I just cut about 4 holes with my hole saw and had to patch them back in, lol, I gave up as I hit a fire break!! and thought they may be more lower down, but now you shown me how I'll drop my TV lower as I already have my TV attached. keep up the great video's
Do a vid on how to move the Coax across another wall. I am having issues moving my coax to a wall that is not accessible from the outside of the house. My place is two story cando. But I do appreciate the time you take to make theses videos. Thanks
Very Nice Video. Question, After you make the hole for the bottom of the tv/or bracket, How do you make the hole Above the fire stud for the TOP of the TV? Make A hole in the ceiling? Thanks.
These are very cool tools, I wouldn't deny that, but I use the basic stud locator, and snake wire. Those are very effective. I can get the same job done in 15 minute or less. Running a heavy duty magnet through the walls, somehow I don't have very good feeling about it. But, again I think it is a very cool tool. Thanks for the video mate!
I do this work too don't use a magnet the fish rods are a good tool to use and nylons string. With the rods you can make a loop with the string and hook at other end and snag the string . Sounds hard but you get good at it . I wouldn't need a stud finder as just by judging it I could tell the stud would be on the right of the tel outlet. I always did like to buy neat tools . Thanks for sharing.
Damn, that's like the high tech way of putting wires through walls. . I did the same thing (with professional results) using some common sense and about $25. All that equipment he's using is expensive but the guy does this professionally. I'm not spending close to $200 for equipment I'll only use once. I'm glad people like him make videos for those of us that aren't as intelligent.
appreciate the video, good info. What about going 25 ft in the ceiling and up a wall (for surround sound). Would this method work or would I hit a firewall?
Nice , I got out of Home Theater, Cable, & phone installs in 95, this is a great tool, i wish I would have had, I wonder if it will work in an old house with 1" wood covered with 1/4 " sheet rock. Thanks checking your TV stuff too.Good deal
GREAT tool & idea, a quick suggestion....maybe drill the hole midway from stud to corner of wall, then run a curved coat hanger over to the cable, then pull it over to the centered hole and out it, this would aid those who would want the cable as such, OR since you have found the firebreak with a hole under it, then use a drill to drill UP through it to run the cable higher.
Being a spark for 20+ years, I've fished many cables up/through walls/ceilings. Instead of forking out money for specialist tools, I used the lid from trunking or some other sturdy thin long plastic, as you say locate the stud etc, drill hole then ide use the lid to fish up, then tie/tape on a draw wire so I would pull many cables in one go. Not a criticism, but my own experience of doing the same.
Reading some of these comments.. Yeah it's called fire blocking.. Whatever. Haters gonna hate bro. Good vid for anyone to watch! Your vid made me aware of a new tool. Good job.
Hey Tampatec, I didn't know about Fish Wire methods or that newer houses had fire brakes. I can see where hiring someone with your know-how could save me a lot of grief. Good Video!!
The Magnepull is a terrific idea, but for the price you pay it seems like they would include some kind of wire clip instead of relying on electrical tape.
Love that magnetic tool.. if that was old construction with a box.. they would have to cut that box out, other scenario is a remodeler box which the screws are on the outside .. might also note you could run into a 4 square metal or plastic with a mud ring.. which changes options again.. otherwise.. excellent video.
If there is no fire brake can wires be fished all the way to celling using manga pull? I'm trying to install 4 atmos celling speakers. Thanks for the awesome video!!
wow thanks! Very helpful i cannot afford this tool, but I will buy it anyway because it is SO COOL! thank you for not remaking your whole video just because when you said insulation it sounded like installation, if "they" can't figure out that you are referring to the stuff that might be found behind a wall instead of "the action of placing something in position or connecting for service or use". Then they will never figure out how to fish wires thru a wall. LOL Again great video i will see if you have others on hanging tvs and hiding wires thanks!
cool idea....fish tape works good enough for me....but you can pull almost any size wire with either fish tape or magnepull....just start out by first pulling some nylon string through....then tie on anchor chain if ya want...and pull it with the unbreakable nylon string...what a concept....
It is rare that the box would be screwed inside, unless that outlet or jack was added after the drywall was in place. Normally they are nailed to the stud from outside of the box; and there for the nails are not accessible because the drywall is in the way.
with a wire measure the length from the box to the fire break. The mag roller isn't necessary to measure this distance or determine if there is a fire break. I've been doing this for years and have never needed a mag roller
Getting past the fire break is also easy. Once located, cut a 3 sided square (if that makes sense) above the fire break, using a pumpkin cut (angled in cut). carefully open the opening, drill through the fire wall, feed cables through, reseal fire break (using firebreak silicon) and patch hole. Very easy.
Another option is to buy a wall plate for the cable hookups (much nicer looking than a hole in the wall) and when you cut out the opening for that wall plate (which will probably be close to the fire blocking), just use that opening to drill a hole through the fire block. Then you have nothing to patch.
You could have made an outlet about the fire break easily. Cut the outlet, get a flexible drill bill specifically made for bending into the outlet you just cut and drilling through the firebreak or a floor or whatever you need to drill through. You could of then easily put a rod into the outlet you just cut above the fire break and put it through the hole you drilled. You would then use the hook on another rod to pull the rod towards the original outlet you've previously disassembled. This so-called pumpkin cut is not required. Is it hard to see inside of walls!? YES OF COURSE IT IS! This does work though and a $30 snake camera works wonders if you are having a tough time and aren't used to wiring through walls a ton.
Ill give you the benifit amd assume you knew that was a USB cable that you just used for demo purposes but good luck fitting a single HDMI cable through one of the holes in the boxes if you have one and better luck with pulling one out... Also Id recommend looking into getting a stud finder.
If its part way up a wall itll be a cavity barrier rather than a fire break =) Main difference is that theyre only rated for about 15-30min which sounds like a lot but normally the material around it burns away
Why not just use a stud finder? and if you are doing a hold above / below you can always use a fish-stick or fish tape. Heck you can just push a string or old wire (if there is no insulation) down from the top hole and tie the new wire to it. I've never tried the magnet trick but it could be useful though.
Blue Boxes don't have the screws into the Stud inside the box housing unless it's a Drywall Anchor Box. It's outside the housing either by 45 degree nail-in or top/bottom screws. The only way to get those in without sawing out the old box is to drill a 1/2 hole into the top of the box, preferably with a right angle drill attachment and a step bit to snake a like down into it.
This seems like the easiest way to put in a TV (and a weak demonstration). You could just as easily used a studfinder, then drill the hole and drop the wire down (no fish needed). I would prefer to see how to get wires into the ceiling or past the fire wall.
Studs are always vertical every 16 or 24 inches apart, normal building code is 16 centers. The fire break boards will be horizontal between 2 studs every 16 to 24 inches.
Great idea. I like the idea of using a magnet to find the fire break, but if your design plans involve hanging TV, speaker, camera or whatever higher you shouldn't let a little piece of wood stop you. This sounds like a great solution if you drill from above (where your plate is going to be anyway) you should be able to avoid the pumpkin cut mentioned in the video. thanks
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It was a great pleasure for this 72 year old professional tradesman to watch your clearly presented video with instructive close-ups of materials you use. Congratulations!
Great video. Easy to understand and I liked the added graphics, they really helped.
I'm a home DIYer and I imagined many times how I could have used a tool like that magnepull. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
I agree; there's more than one way to it, but an old journeyman showed me how to use sash chain and a length of straighened out metal wire coat hangers with a slight hook shaped bend on the end to hook the chain and pull it out of the wall. The sash chain follows it's own weight and is good for pulling wire on long runs between floors. It is difficult to do, however, when fire breaks and insulation are present. The fish poles are great, and when used with the magnets or a hanger with a hook bent in the end can be awesome. It depends on the situation, and what type of wiring application; just to give some ideas.
This video is worth watching. Very clear, easy to follow instructions. I want a Magnepull now.
wats good man?I just had to tell you that are the first person really explain something to the fullest n no short cuts...Grate job can't wait to see wat u have on ur page
I want to thank you for the video, it was well put together. Easy to understand easy to follow instructions. Again thanks! I'll be watching more of your videos.
Great tip the only issue is when there is insulation. I find using a glow rod and stud finder a lot quicker keep it up.
Fantastic Video !!!! This is one of the best explanation videos that I have seen on RUclips. I stumbled across it and was not even looking for how to fish wires through a wall using the latest techniques. Showing each tool using clear pictures with the names typed on them and showing each step clearly - really made this video enjoyable! You are a great teacher/instructor and should consider doing these professional instructional videos for major corporations.
Good vid man! I used to install voice and data for several years and i always carried and old tape measure in my tool bag. I cut off the stopper, with the tape measure cut on an angle, to penetrate insulation, then tapped the cut end with electrical tape. It was perfect for fishing most walls. They didn't make that magna pull back then. It was just nice having a mini fish tape that went straight up or down a wall with insulation. Regular fish tapes coil in a wall with insulation.
The magna pull is pretty awesome Looking tho. I might have to pick one up!
Thanks for making your vid!
Just wanted to say thanks this instructional video is very helpful and well put together. Great work.
Decent video (from my little experiences of pulling network cable and a few odd jobs.) My one suggestion would be to fold your piece of electrical tape back on itself after you secure the cable to the pull rod, this will prevent it from taping itself down and create less stress trying to find the end of the tape and try to pry it off. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but if you do this a lot, every little bit will help and it is a lot more frustrating than it seems.
Hey!! thanx for the showing us how to get the wires through the wall, I just cut about 4 holes with my hole saw and had to patch them back in, lol, I gave up as I hit a fire break!! and thought they may be more lower down, but now you shown me how I'll drop my TV lower as I already have my TV attached. keep up the great video's
Many older well-bult houses have walls of metal mesh & plaster. Try using any magnetic tool (or a stud finder) in that!
Do a vid on how to move the Coax across another wall. I am having issues moving my coax to a wall that is not accessible from the outside of the house. My place is two story cando. But I do appreciate the time you take to make theses videos. Thanks
Very Nice Video. Question, After you make the hole for the bottom of the tv/or bracket, How do you make the hole Above the fire stud for the TOP of the TV? Make A hole in the ceiling? Thanks.
These are very cool tools, I wouldn't deny that, but I use the basic stud locator, and snake wire. Those are very effective. I can get the same job done in 15 minute or less. Running a heavy duty magnet through the walls, somehow I don't have very good feeling about it. But, again I think it is a very cool tool.
Thanks for the video mate!
I do this work too don't use a magnet the fish rods are a good tool to use and nylons string. With the rods you can make a loop with the string and hook at other end and snag the string . Sounds hard but you get good at it . I wouldn't need a stud finder as just by judging it I could tell the stud would be on the right of the tel outlet. I always did like to buy neat tools . Thanks for sharing.
Nice video...great for home renos...or for those that "self flip houses" for a living for sure.
Old houses are such a pain to wire...lol Great video. Thanks for posting.
Damn, that's like the high tech way of putting wires through walls. . I did the same thing (with professional results) using some common sense and about $25. All that equipment he's using is expensive but the guy does this professionally. I'm not spending close to $200 for equipment I'll only use once. I'm glad people like him make videos for those of us that aren't as intelligent.
Thanks for the video you people have the hearts of teachers.
Awesome. That's exactly the kind of tutorial I was looking for. Thank you. You're Mel Gibson man!
appreciate the video, good info. What about going 25 ft in the ceiling and up a wall (for surround sound). Would this method work or would I hit a firewall?
What a cool tool ! Thanks for sharing the tip. I have some super neodymium magnets and I'm going to make one of these.
Nice , I got out of Home Theater, Cable, & phone installs in 95, this is a great tool, i wish I would have had, I wonder if it will work in an old house with 1" wood covered with 1/4 " sheet rock. Thanks checking your TV stuff too.Good deal
:D I do the same thing, I use a neodymium magnet I pulled from an old hard drive to find the nails in the studs :)
the finger action at 4.00 is hilarious!!!!! lmfaooo good video other then the background noise which is a bit annoying but GREAT VIDEO thanks!
Thanks for pointing that one out lmfao now
GREAT tool & idea, a quick suggestion....maybe drill the hole midway from stud to corner of wall, then run a curved coat hanger over to the cable, then pull it over to the centered hole and out it, this would aid those who would want the cable as such, OR since you have found the firebreak with a hole under it, then use a drill to drill UP through it to run the cable higher.
Being a spark for 20+ years, I've fished many cables up/through walls/ceilings. Instead of forking out money for specialist tools, I used the lid from trunking or some other sturdy thin long plastic, as you say locate the stud etc, drill hole then ide use the lid to fish up, then tie/tape on a draw wire so I would pull many cables in one go. Not a criticism, but my own experience of doing the same.
What the hell is a lid from trunking?
Reading some of these comments.. Yeah it's called fire blocking.. Whatever. Haters gonna hate bro. Good vid for anyone to watch! Your vid made me aware of a new tool. Good job.
Hey Tampatec, I didn't know about Fish Wire methods or that newer houses had fire brakes. I can see where hiring someone with your know-how could save me a lot of grief.
Good Video!!
Thank you. That was fun. I renovate old houses. Always nice to learn about a new tool.
Informative, funny , and cute ! Back ground kids playing funny also
Neat tool. Never knew existed. Must be a super strong magnet.
Have you had any opportunities to try that magnetic setup on old houses with slats? If so, how did that work out for you?
Nice tip. Esp. to find fire breaks! Thank you sir!!
What electrical code are you working to, that allows you to run flexible cable through walls?
That dudes face at 6:27 hahahahaha. Its freakin funny, but still a good video. Thanx man.
Very good video my man never seen the Magnepull idea before thanks
....wow all the negative comments are pointless...thanks man for this demo!!!
A lot of demonstrations of products or techniques are made with easy situations. This is also the case with this one.
You did a good job explaining thank you for the video and demo
Great Video. I would have also like to seen how you make a pumpkin cut to go around the firewall.
The Magnepull is a terrific idea, but for the price you pay it seems like they would include some kind of wire clip instead of relying on electrical tape.
Awesome tip using the magnepull never thought of that
Love that magnetic tool.. if that was old construction with a box.. they would have to cut that box out, other scenario is a remodeler box which the screws are on the outside .. might also note you could run into a 4 square metal or plastic with a mud ring.. which changes options again.. otherwise.. excellent video.
If there is no fire brake can wires be fished all the way to celling using manga pull? I'm trying to install 4 atmos celling speakers.
Thanks for the awesome video!!
wow thanks! Very helpful i cannot afford this tool, but I will buy it anyway because it is SO COOL! thank you for not remaking your whole video just because when you said insulation it sounded like installation, if "they" can't figure out that you are referring to the stuff that might be found behind a wall instead of "the action of placing something in position or connecting for service or use". Then they will never figure out how to fish wires thru a wall. LOL Again great video i will see if you have others on hanging tvs and hiding wires thanks!
This video awesome you have explain so detail. Awesome Job
You can buy strong magnets from Harbor Freights which is very cheap, and a regular stud finder will do the job in dry wall.
Just so you know that picture show is not circular saw its hole saw.
So, when doing this on inside wall without any cross braces is pretty easy. How do you handle the cross bracing on exterier walls.
Great video! Love the Magnepull!
Ron Flynn true, it's great for installers pays for its self because it's saves time and time is money.
Nice video, never seen this tool before but will look for one the next time I need to do this. Thanks again..
cool idea....fish tape works good enough for me....but you can pull almost any size wire with either fish tape or magnepull....just start out by first pulling some nylon string through....then tie on anchor chain if ya want...and pull it with the unbreakable nylon string...what a concept....
love how easy u make things look and be done..thanks
Very cool magnepull and very well demo!
goes through "installation?"
It is rare that the box would be screwed inside, unless that outlet or jack was added after the drywall was in place. Normally they are nailed to the stud from outside of the box; and there for the nails are not accessible because the drywall is in the way.
Thanks for the video.
Quick question. To check for a firebreak, can you use a studfinder up and down the wall between two confirmed studs? Thanks.
yes or sometimes you can see horizontal indention across wall
You can use pin to see if nothing behind the wall, hole made by pin is not visible.
Very helpful, thanks so much for all you videos.
with a wire measure the length from the box to the fire break. The mag roller isn't necessary to measure this distance or determine if there is a fire break. I've been doing this for years and have never needed a mag roller
Nice vid dude ! I like that magna pull pretty nifty.
Thanks for your great video. Do have a video on how to make a pumpkin cut?
Tampatec, well done makes guessing a lot easier *****Thank You!
Great video! a lot of necessary info. thanks a lot.
Stud finders are wonderful tools!
Getting past the fire break is also easy. Once located, cut a 3 sided square (if that makes sense) above the fire break, using a pumpkin cut (angled in cut). carefully open the opening, drill through the fire wall, feed cables through, reseal fire break (using firebreak silicon) and patch hole. Very easy.
true, good note.
Do you have a video of that procedure?
Another option is to buy a wall plate for the cable hookups (much nicer looking than a hole in the wall) and when you cut out the opening for that wall plate (which will probably be close to the fire blocking), just use that opening to drill a hole through the fire block. Then you have nothing to patch.
Thanks for the education!
Great invention,Thanks for showing.
Critics: This is a " how to video" using this innovative system. I appreciate learning about new products and alternative methods.
ROFLMFWAO...GOES THROUGH installation real easy.I'm dying lmao
Haha one time I made a mistake too
You could have made an outlet about the fire break easily. Cut the outlet, get a flexible drill bill specifically made for bending into the outlet you just cut and drilling through the firebreak or a floor or whatever you need to drill through. You could of then easily put a rod into the outlet you just cut above the fire break and put it through the hole you drilled. You would then use the hook on another rod to pull the rod towards the original outlet you've previously disassembled. This so-called pumpkin cut is not required. Is it hard to see inside of walls!? YES OF COURSE IT IS! This does work though and a $30 snake camera works wonders if you are having a tough time and aren't used to wiring through walls a ton.
Ill give you the benifit amd assume you knew that was a USB cable that you just used for demo purposes but good luck fitting a single HDMI cable through one of the holes in the boxes if you have one and better luck with pulling one out...
Also Id recommend looking into getting a stud finder.
It was a HDMI cable. Check again in slow play
Thanks for your demo!
You're a switched on guy. Thanks for the info. Great vid.
how good does it go thru "installation" 1:28? very well?
I caught that too.. lol
Where is this guy from??lmao
That's where nylon string comes in.
Thank you! This is very helpful!
can those magnepulls pull thru wall insulation as well?
yes but use 2nd gen bullet magnepull cause the 1st gen is hard to use.
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Awesome , Well Done.
Great catch and Great video ,enjoyed watching👍👍
If its part way up a wall itll be a cavity barrier rather than a fire break =)
Main difference is that theyre only rated for about 15-30min which sounds like a lot but normally the material around it burns away
Why not just use a stud finder? and if you are doing a hold above / below you can always use a fish-stick or fish tape. Heck you can just push a string or old wire (if there is no insulation) down from the top hole and tie the new wire to it. I've never tried the magnet trick but it could be useful though.
7:49 hole saw bit for a drill not a circular saw. Good video.
Omg love this video, how do u get ur arms and hands veiny like that ?
Excellent video!!!!
That thing is amazing!
when you become an electrician then you know how none amazing that thing is!
wow this is GREAT. Thanks for posting
That mangnapull is awesome. Good vid.
what about insulation, does that get in the way of the magna pole, and I have all wood interior walls does the magna pole work with wood.??
Blue Boxes don't have the screws into the Stud inside the box housing unless it's a Drywall Anchor Box. It's outside the housing either by 45 degree nail-in or top/bottom screws. The only way to get those in without sawing out the old box is to drill a 1/2 hole into the top of the box, preferably with a right angle drill attachment and a step bit to snake a like down into it.
Thank you for the instruction very helpful
Good vid bro I'll subscribe
That is super helpful, thanks for making this video
Thanks for sharing! Great demonstration.
This seems like the easiest way to put in a TV (and a weak demonstration). You could just as easily used a studfinder, then drill the hole and drop the wire down (no fish needed). I would prefer to see how to get wires into the ceiling or past the fire wall.
This may be a stupid question but if you locate the studs, does that mean the wood is up and down or is it sideways? how can you tell?
studs are verticle
Studs are always vertical every 16 or 24 inches apart, normal building code is 16 centers. The fire break boards will be horizontal between 2 studs every 16 to 24 inches.
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Well that's great how about insulation?
To get thru the fire break, use a 2 or 3 foot long flexible spade bit to drill thru it.
Great idea. I like the idea of using a magnet to find the fire break, but if your design plans involve hanging TV, speaker, camera or whatever higher you shouldn't let a little piece of wood stop you. This sounds like a great solution if you drill from above (where your plate is going to be anyway) you should be able to avoid the pumpkin cut mentioned in the video. thanks