How to Pull Cable Through Existing Wooden Walls
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2013
- John from the CableSupply Team shows how to pull cable through an existing wall, while drilling through a stud, with the Greenlee D'VersiBIT System
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I like the bit and this video is very helpful. This is somewhat misleading though. Fishing and drilling walls are fairly simple when you can see both sides of the wall, the ceiling framing has human clearance, and there is no insulation or plastic wrap in the way. I think it would be super awesome if you guys documented non-typical cable drops/installs in the wild. It's one thing to practice in a lab or warehouse, but if you started a series on real world onsite cabling jobs we might even see a few mistakes or bloopers and those are always a learning experience and make for fun times! Just my two cents, thanks for all the videos and hard work, I really enjoy this channel and everyone who contributes to it!
Nice tutorial if you have a free standing wall with the top not attached to anything (like a 2nd level floor), and you can make an edit jump-cut to where the drill bit is perfectly positioned.
Free standing wall with no back which allows you to verify that your bit is indeed in the center. What about when you're working blind? Do you use a camera to probe the vertical space and make sure your drill bit is centered on the top level stud?
That’s what I said 😂😂
Thanks for the thoughts you have provided here.
SWEET! I have been wanting to run network cable in my place and this would be SOOO helpful
Don't forget about local fire codes concerning running low or high voltage wires through commercial buildings. Many cities require conduit runs in commercial buildings even for low voltage wiring.
Nice intro to a new tool ! Thanks .
Beauty bit, flexible, long, sharp, nice video. I can't wait to get to work so I can send an apprentice to the truck for a fish stick. The look I give him when he comes back with a Highliner product will be priceless.
Beware. I bought the exact bit from Greenlee. There's a little screw point on the top of the bit to help get it started.
It's extremely brittle. I've gone through 3 of these bits and they are NOT cheap.
FINALLY! After watching about 6 videos of people that have no idea how to run cable I made it here.
Same here!
This is genius! I was just about ready to cut a hole in the sheetrock of an exterior wall where I wanted to mount the TV. PLEASE add to the search phrases (run wire in exterior walls.) Thanks again
John: Thanks you for posting this informative video. This install video is exactly the info that I've been looking for. I can start my ethernet runs now and rid of the damaging WiFi the is transmitted all throughout my house.
wow nice one man saves alot of work
Thanks for this very useful vid
It's a nice invention for internal, non insulated walls, it's difficult to use on bearing walls that are fiber glass or foam insulated.
You'll always have that one buddy who says I got dis and helps you when he pulls to hard and fast and brakes it off in the middle off the wall.
Nice!
If u can fit through the ceiling to attach the cable to the drill bit ,you can drill it from the top and feed it back down with a fish stick.js
In New Zealand timber framed houses are the most common form of construction. Walls have three or four horizontal elements... top and bottom "plates", and one or two rows of "nogs" or "dwangs". Drill bits such as this are a good alternative for drilling through the dwangs, even if you have access to the top plate (and quite often if you do have attic access, you are restricted vertically by roofing etc.).
you're right, but if I was doing the job, I'd be very careful drilling from bottom. In Australia (believe same applies to NZ) there are electrical cables, gas pipes or even water pipes running across those top sections above ceiling and hitting any of those while drilling from the bottom up wouldn't be fun at all..
neat tool
“I’m using the orange and brown wire” lol brilliant reaction too. Great video!
Studs are the vertical members. The piece of wood on top is called a, "top plate".
I like the ending. Intense music.
One thing not shown is "placing the drill bit where you want it" in the top plate. They just show the drill bit already in a hole thats been already drilled! Even with the angled placement tool it is difficult to determine where the tip of the drill bit is in relation to center of the top plate, that is done strictly by feel and guesswork. If they showed how its really done you would see the drill bit flopping from side to side as he tries to "Place the drill bit where you want" with it being off center closer to 1 side of the wall and hopefully not in the corner. Its all by feel and guesswork. Walls don't usually have clear plexiglass on one side so as to see where the tip of the bit actually is.
Some other tips. Do not apply a lot of pressure when first starting to drill, let the auger tip pull the knife edges of the bit in and through. Drill at lower speeds otherwise the auger tip will lose the ability to pull the bit through and you'll have to use more pressure to push the bit through. The 4' shank of the drill bit tends to bow when you put a alot of pressure which angles the tip of the drill bit at off angles. Ohh....for this all to be easier the bit needs to have sharp clean knife edges and an undamaged auger tip. They tend to get all fucked up when they hit a nail in the wood that you obviously can't see or know about. This makes you re position the tip and start a new hole, hopefully not on the edge or near the hole you already tried to drill and not hitting that same old nail again and start a 3rd hole! Just remember "If this was easy women and children would be doing it". :)
Thanks for the video =)
My pleasure!
Great video!!! I noticed your first link doesn't work. Do they not sell that flexible drill bit anymore? It's exactly what I need to install my cable in a room without a cable box
Do you have a video where you show how to pull cable through studs horizontally?Thanks
Also if you're cutting a hole in a wall cut it along the stud so your plastic box can have some rigidity and not be floating
hey can you please help out with a tutorial on how to fix one of this holes i just want to make sure insulation and everything is fine i would really appreciate the help thank you
I want to see it done horizontally across studs. How would you do that?
Usually easy job if the wall is an inside wall. Outside walls usually have the roof coming down to it and makes for hard time to get there with your body. The angle is normally quite shallow.
extremely hard to wall fish an exterior wall from top to bottom
Not to mention the insulation and fire blocks.
Will this work to drill between houses on a standard wood frame home?
what about going thru insulation while doing that? can you show how that would go?
ok good display, yet second floor usually double studded, same steps? and how do you locate the drill bit in the second level? magnet?
So what happens if you have to drill through the top plate on a fire rated wall? How do you seal the penetration? You can't, I see how beneficial this is on non rated walls. But if you doing this on a rated wall, you have effectively comprised the rating for that system. If you plan on using this great product, please be sure of where you can actually use it. And if it's on a rated wall your easiest option is cutting a hole toward the top of the wall, fishing your wire then fire caulking your penetration.
You want it to make your Lunch too? It's not the "SAVE MY LIFE BIT"
Pro tip use any color besides black electrical tape cause the color tape leaves no residue.
do you have a method for pulling additional cable through an already existing outlet? I.e I would like to turn my double wall outlet into a quad.. Could I just tape some more cable to the already existing and use that as the draw cable?
so the top of the wall where u drilled through would be in the attic?
Cool im a pro fisher now ive always cut silly squares in plasterboard near the uprights and just fish cable with hands lol
Might not be to bad to drill out from the top, any extra noggings that may be in the wall to get a cable down too
I assume you could do the same thing drilling down through the bottom plate and running the wire through the crawl space.
Wait. If you have access to the top plate to fish wire through it, why the hell don't you just drill a hole from the top of the top plate instead of using this? That seems so much easier than this thing.
That's ok for light switches but what about power points that are 1 foot off the floor?
Brad Hughes Well your going to have to make a hole.
Drill downward from top
That video edit jump from using the guide tool to an already drilled hole in the top stud is not very inspiring. I worry that the drill bit will be deflected by insulation and its own flexibility...
Can this be used to go through 2-3 stud cavities side to side? Anyone ever done that?
this wouldn't work near as well if there is insulation
My only problem with this is my house was built in the VERY EARLY 1900's maybe 1800's so I gotta cut through a mortar wall to get inside., wish they had videos to help with that.
Excellent video! How can I detect whether there is an electrical power cable on the other side of the 2 * 4 when drilling up into an attic or down to a room below?
You'll get a shock. I think if your drilling on external walls youve got no worries, if internal just have a quick check in attic around about where your coming up if no cable your fine. Downstairs just avoid drilling say less than 200mm either side of a socket (as cables run up into floor across to consumer unit/fusebox) generally just by looking at where your sockets and light fittings and then consumer unit you should be able to guess where cables will be running. From Mr.DIY.
Visual inspection is best. If you're going into the attic you'll need to go there anyway to connect the cable to your bit or fish tape. We always look for wires/pipes etc. If you're really drilling blind there are all kinds of sensing gizmos available - stud sensors with added features - that will sense a metal pipe or copper wire. There are also "ringers" you can attach to your panel that will put a frequency on the circuit you can pick up with a hand-held sensor. So you should be able to avoid starting a fire, flood, or electrocuting yourself ;-)
George Schwartze that's a great question!!!
George Schwartze before drilling climb in the attic and check the other side lol.
this is a risky time saver, yeah you get the hole but now you gotta repair the damag to the plumbing, electrical work etc.
What if the outlet is down below near the floor 1.5feet from floor?
They sell extensions in 3' lengths.
DjJeanuwine Romain it's better to drill down from the attic
Marco Banks the problem with that would be finding the exact spot to drill from the attic
When you use the tool to straighten the drill bit, how do you know it is in the middle of the 2x4 top plate?
bumper ball
you don't.
only if the other side of the wall is exposed or no drywall in place lol
Can't use a bumper ball if you have to first get through a fire block.
@@Matt-pd2cq would that work with insulation?
If you can get to the top of the wall, as in the video, you can do the same thing with a short wood bit. I have 25 years of fishing wires. I would not recommend this tool. I've seen more guys drill through the outside of a wall, right into the carpet or through the siding using these things. That guide tool is ridiculous. You have know idea where the bit head is when using that thing. And lets not forget the insulation once it starts wrapping around the bit. In the wrong hands, I've seen it bend bits so bad that it blows out the drywall or the bit gets stuck in the wall.
what's the best way to run a cable between floors then?
Yeah, I had the drill out the side issue with one of these. Don't like them, but if you can do it right, then yeah, it's easier/faster.
This was a commercial, for a cable suppy store, that probably should have been disclosed.
Are you suggesting to use a short bit at the top to make the hole and then run the fish tape down to the receptacle where the cable can be taped there and then pulled up? Will that work?
stick a tiny piece of copper through the ceiling, find in attic, drill hole next to copper wire. drop line. grab with hook
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OK, kind of handy..., how, if there is insulation??? how much is this drill-bit, and tool??/ How long is it?? Thanks, ...and..., keep smiling;o)
go into attic and drill. you have to run the cables anyway.
If you had access to the top of the wall.. why not just hole saw it down and drop a rod?
You didn't show the part where you send the bit up to the top and line up the bit. You should really have a plexiglass rear wall and show the full procedure. Also show it if there is insulation.
How do you know if there's electrical wires in the path you're drilling?
ruthlessluder you will feel a nice tingle all over your body and a new straightened hairdo !
Pulling cable through a hole is always challenging so why not use a bigger drill bit like maybe a 3/4 or even a 1" bit?
If u are going to feed cable from the top anyway, why not drill down thru the plate and feed cable that way. Why all the hullabaloo of a cable drill? Am I missing something here?
Johnny .Bravo
There are generally guidelines/codes mitigating how much material can be removed across the width of a framing member, also how near to an edge a hole may be; if for example a wall's top plate were a 2x6 rather than a 2x4 there would be more room to drill while still leaving enough material to maintain integrity. That being said, larger sizes, at least to choose from, would be excellent perhaps they have some...
Johnny .Bravo as
That thing actually is a 3/4" bit - and they make them up to 1-1/4". I own several of them. But every hole in the building envelope through a wall plate into an unconditioned attic or crawl - that goes unplugged by some kind of caulk or fireblocking is a problem. It's a path for rodents... it's an air leak from conditioned space into unconditioned space... it's always a bad thing. So you don't want to drill more or larger than you need.
No mention of the possibility of electric cables. Blindly drilling through them could lead to a big shock
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Nice how when you show us the inside it’s already perfectly centered and all the way through the hole 🤔
it is only a product demo
Or, you can train your hamster(s) to fish wires through the walls for you.
WHAT ABOUT THE WALL WITH INSULATION?
Seems like a fairly simple job when you're working from an open box at 48", but who installs data at 48"? Can you still bend that bit when the box is 18" AFF?
It is only a product demo
The studs in that wall are more than 16 inches on center.
This is not a "real " wall. It is just a demo.
How do you make sure you’re not drilling through an electrical wire?
This video is only "how to use a tool" demonstration. It is not a how to install cable video. Sorry for the confusion.
Understood.
Although the title of the video says “How to…” so I thought it was a How to video.
Is it okay not to encase with conduit?
Computer/ LAN / Telephone cables (Low Voltage) in most installation don't require conduit.
Why not just make the hole in the attic with a 3/4 spade and then run the wires down? I'll only use the drill bit if there's a fire block.
your idea works for me.
this is only a tool demo not a how to video.
not really conviced on this,1- your in the roof anyway to tie cable on so just drill through the top plate, 2- if your wall has no insulation like this demo thats a sparkys dream just drop cable down wall after drilling hole in top plate, 3- how can you be certain you in the middle of the top plate even with that hook thingy you could still end up drillin through to next room, 4- if you do have insulation that drill bit is now part of the house because it wont be coming out. Cant beat straight extension bits for a centre noggen and the good old tounge from flooring board (yellow tounge).
if your good you remove the drill bit and put a glow rod in the whole you just drilled.Also in real life there are things inside the wall like insulation nails and electric wires or pipes.
How about if there's insulation
This is just a demo for the drill bit. If you need to fish a wall with insulation use a fishing rod tool. Check out the video
Pulling cable through insulated walls is another video.
It’s a top plate though, not a stud.
video after video but none actually are in the real world. I simply want to fish a wire from light switch to ceiling and its not easy. The ceiling is the 2nd floor and I can't drill through the floor there. i've got a hole already for the original cable but the fastidious electrician stapled it to the 2x4. so I can't pull it and even using a camera too hard to thread something new into the old hole. In the ceiling the electrical cable is 3ft away from my ceiling hole, so just grabbing it in the ceiling doesn't work. If I could reach it, to cut it, still doesn't help as I can't pull it due to staples.
I have a joist to get through to the wall from my ceiling access, so difficult to use fish tape or others to snake to the wall and down.
anyway, it's "easy" when you have a frame built in your shop with sheet rock attached.
This video is just a product demo on a drill bit. Cabling a house is an other subject that would take hours to even start to explain. Thanks for watching.
Nah, start from the top and drill hole next to stud. Drop string with weight down in hole all the way to bottom then attach cable to string at top. Cut receptcle hole at bottom and fish/pull string with cable. Then go up top and tack down cable if need be.
this will not matter looking back
wonder what john is doing these days
John was one of my best employees. He was hard-working and intelligent with integrity. I believe he is either in North or South Carolina. The hi cost-of-living in California forces good people to move out of state. I hope he is successful and whatever he does.
@@CableSupply that is wholesome of you. Thank you for the reply and update on that. I also hope John is doing well, as well as you guys. Thank you for your helpful videos.
Useless as there is absolutely NO way to determine if the bit in in the center of the stud . . . unless the other side is clear Plexiglas. Notice he did NOT actually show"how you can place the bit exactly where you need it to go"
Tina, This video is just an product demonstration of a drill bit with possible uses. Sorry it was not meant to be an actual definitive technique on how to drill through walls. Thanks for watching
I'm unsure why you wouldn't just get in the attic and drill from above with a standard drill bit, then use yellow tongue to thread the cable through? This video shows you NEED to get in the attic anyway to attach the cables to the device to pull them through. A little pointless.
because what if youre not fishing them from the attic but from a floor above you (2nd floor of your home, or an office that has multiple floors). In my house I need to fish network cables from the basement up into the living room, and from the living room up into the office. The attic wont even need to be accessed at all
nice that you can have full access to the "drill bit" to anchor your cable, LOL. this is not the case and all this bit would be good for is to drill the hole, also you did not show how you managed to ge the bit centered on the stud so yeah... pass.
This is just a product demo.
That was not a good tutorial - you placed the drill bit in the proper position from the open side of the wall, got is started then started the camera. In a real wall you can't do that. You need to show actually how you used the tool to place the drill bit in the center of the top plate without going through the drywall - if you were able to... that's the problem with these tools.
This was a tool demo only.
Is not that easy!!!