first off: sorry the intro's audio is low..... ugh second: sorry I didn't review Ice Cream (it looks REALLY GOOD) but I can't judge cartoons dancing. And I don't have permissions to judge covers third: what's your favorite BlackPink's choreo? Mine, like I said, is As If It's Your Last... it's so jumpy and fun
My top 3 would be: 1. AIIYL (It really fun to watch this choreography honestly!) 2. DKWTD (The moves are very beautiful!) 3. HYLT (The dance break parts hit really hard)
they're practically just same people who did their other songs, all of blackpink's choreos are mainly choreographed by the same people (ex. kyle hanagami, kiel, etc.)
@@livchuu541 Kiel and Kyle hanagami have both choreographed all of blackpink’s recent choreographies together, and their original choreography is always cut and changed so don’t blame them the choreographies are changed and are made accommodate blackpink to comfortably sing and dance
@@livchuu541 don't be disrespectful. Kiel is a professional choreographer, it's just they cut a lot of parts, for some reasons. maybe the members, maybe YG.
At this point I'm not even asking for their choreographer to give them a difficult choreo. I'm just asking him to give them choreos that aren't weird and lazy, choreo that actually fits the song and gives justice to their dancing skill.
I think it's a bit difficult on the choreographer part because the dancing levels across BlackPink members are not even at all. I feel like Jisoo would have a very hard time dealing with a more difficult choreography. Jennie is a good idol dancer but she is still not very comfortable with moves that require lots of details and that can affect the whole look of the dance. It's really easy to point out whose dancing is not up to par when there're only 4 members on stage.
@@shiningyoonie true but remember Jisoo in their Blackpink Dance Practice video? If she can do that choreo, I'm pretty sure Jisoo can do more than what the choreographer is feeding them rn.
@@shiningyoonie Jisoo has improved a lot, like A LOT. The stiffness is still there but not as noticeable as before. Also Jisoo is the member that rarely skip the detail (along with Lisa). Rosé and Jennie tend to forget/skip the detail. They can do a better choreography for sure
@@rafiansyahyusuf5203 yeah I agree that Jisoo has improved but according to the new stages, I still think it'd be hard for her to execute harder choreos. Her lack of body control still shows so much especially with the Pretty Savage choreo. But yeah, I think they don't exactly need a harder choreo, just something more interesting and less walking/hand flying around.
@@kiwipie2310 i agree, ppl want harder choreography but the second, an idol sounds unstable while live singing, they start hating on them. ppl need to realize that kpop isnt all about dancing, its about singing and performing
Right like so what if it’s simple they’re still gonna have to perform and they’re still getting paid dance doesn’t matter as long as they’re given us content we’re always gonna support them
Yeah I agree, its one of their non repetitive choreographies. The dance practice was kind of messy and I really idk why they gave Lisa a filler part where in the live stages the girls actually did a choreo
@@soirann102 Ikr? I was kind of confused why there suddenly a choreo for Lisa's part had appeared? (I liked the part) but why did they not include it in the dance practice
I guess there was too much hype around it, a lot of people wanted a difficult choreography or a dance break for Lisa so a lot of fans were dissapointed. But now that the hype is over, most can agree than even if it's not the hardest dance it is an iconic one.
And the fact that Jisoo own Forever Young era and shine a lot in dance move while in DKWTD, she got the most center parts actually said a lot- YG, PLS LET JISOO SHINE MORE IN CHOREOGRAPHY!!!
The chorus choreo for Pretty Savage caught me off guard. I just can't seem to take the head banging swing and the arm paddle swing moves seriously. And the first move in the chorus of HYLT the arms out and dip thing i feel kinda bad cause it makes me laugh lmao. I wish a choreographer could give Lisa a challenging dance break to shine in I feel like she hasn't been given the opportunity to well and truly pop off in a blackpink title song dance
I was thinking the same think but then I saw a fancam of the entire stage (well, you can see the girls, idk if you understand) and I thought it was better than the stage they released. It just looks less weird jahsja
@@paulaalvarado6077 Yeah I saw the fancam of the full stage and agree the camera work made it seem worse. But the first half of the chorus and the bridge choreo still are kinda a let down for me. The song is fun, sassy, and bold and I guess I just wanted the choreo to have an impact that matches the intensity of the song and I don't feel this choreo did. I get they need to sing live but I think the girls could have handled a harder hitting choreo
@@Faeriiexx I think the choreo had some nice and cool moments but mostly in the intro and verses. The choreography for the chorus just looked odd and awkward to me like it didn't fit the song very well
@@calling.moon.twelve Yeah, I agree. The chorus is the worst bp chorus honestly. Like it just looked bad and they all looked so stiff because the choreo is odd
What bothers me about blackpink choreography is that YG never really focuses on dance, so Lisa can't really shine with difficult choreography. Sure, even if you’re not a dancer, you can see a big difference between her and the other girls, but I really wanted to see Lalisa on stage dancing something more technically difficult
@@khushi.11_ @Khushi Singh rose is a good dancer but she is not on the same level than Lisa. She has a noticeable tendency to overdance and her fluidity is not that good as Lisa. Rose is the kind of dancer who gives 110% of her power on the stage. Her dance is powerful but she has some issues.... and this is normal, because she is not the main dancer but she has some dynamics and put so much flavor in her movements, but no, she is not as good as Lisa but she is the best one after Lalisa
Agreed... i really couldn't watch the full dance for lovesick girls... and i never saw pretty savage until this vid but both were just very meh to me. Nothing really stood out. The only song I like is HYLT from this era. Pretty savage and lovesick girls are overrated...
@@finalfantasyjrpggamer2550 I like Pretty Savage as a song a lot and so does Lisa. Lovesick girls has some beautiful melodic phrases/sentences and good singing which makes me like it.
@@finalfantasyjrpggamer2550 i think the songs themselves aren't overrated: Lovesick Girls brings back some elements that made YG groups iconic in the first half of 10' but with a modern twist and I love it. Pretty Savage, well, I think that song has a clear concept and sound and it delivers it perfectly.
According to the last rankings: 1°: Secret Story of the Swan [9.7] 2°: Fiesta [9.5] 3°: La Vie En Rose [9.5] 4°: Icy [9.4] 5°: Fancy [9.4] 6°: Violeta [9.3] 7°: More & More [9.2] 8°: Zimzalabim [9.0] 9°: Wannabe [9.0] 10°: Don’t Know What To Do [9.0] 11°: What Is Love? [9.0] 12°: Automatic [8.94] 13°: Dumb Dumb [8.88] 14°: Ice Cream Cake [8.88] 15°: Power Up [8.75] 16°: Feel Special [8.7] 17°: Bad Boy [8.56] 18°: Russian Roulette [8.5] 19°: Forever Young [8.5] 20°: How You Like That [8.375] 21°: Dalla Dalla [8.3] 22°: Whistle [8.25] 23°: Boombayah [8.125] 24°: TT [8.1] 25°: Umpah Umpah [8.06] 26°: Likey [8.0] 27°: Dance The Night Away [7.8] 28°: Peek-A-Boo [7.75] 29°: Signal [7.7] 30°: Rookie [7.63] 31°: Really Bad Boy [7.5] 32°: Red Flavor [7.5] 33°: Pretty Savage [7.25] 34°: Cheer Up [7.2] 35°: Kill This Love [7.125] 36°: Lovesick Girls [7.0] 37°: Like Ooh-Ahh [7.0] 38°: Be Natural [6.25] 39°: Playing With Fire [6.25] 40°: As If It’s Your Last [6.125] 41°: DDu-Du DDu-Du [6.0] 42°: Happiness [5.5] 43°: Knock Knock [5.2] 44°: Heart Shaker [5.0] Then, the average score per team: 1°: IZ*ONE [9.5] 2°: ITZY [8.9] 3°: Red Velvet [7.98] 4°: TWICE [7.67] 5°: Blackpink [7.45]
i find jisoo cute in the choreo because she's really trying her best but yes, i'm underwhelmed by the entire choreo too. i actually just watch the live perf to see the members' stage presence now because there's nothing to expect from the choreo
I liked all the choreo except the chorus. I agree with forggstans opinions about the formations,ripples and transitions and basically it is better than some of their choreos like dddd,ktl and pwf but that one part in the chorus where they look like they were swimming looks weird to me already. I used to like it lol
I think what made the choreo even more underwhelming for me is the fact that I saw better choreography videos of pretty savage. I think those videos were much more creative than the original choreo. The original looked so awkward
I died when you put that Playing with Fire dance break looks like they're cooking because it actually does. The first time I saw the choreo I thought they're like practicing a ritual.
I understand why their choreographer is giving the girls easy choreography. Ever since Blackpink has become a true global revolution, their company probably thought that if their choreography is easier, then more people would be able to follow along.
@@jkv5332 tbh choreos can be hard and iconic too, or can be creative, easy and iconic. DDDD and ktl were iconic but not very creative, which is understandable but the newer songs are just...
@@suchismithakn true. I personally don't see creativity in their choreos and its repetitive. The main issue is that YGE talks big about quality over quantity but in terms of choreos, I don't see both. Its expected of one of the biggest ggs who comeback once or twice a year and have hype songs to have banger choreos but in case of blackpink it's just so so.
you are right on the part that that is the true reason, but youre wrong on the part that you "understand" they dont get what they deserve! AND THERE IS A CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLINKS AND BLACKPINK FANS US, BLINKS, CARE AVBOUT OUR GIRLSS THEY NEED BETTER CHOREOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
tbh ppl just exaggerate when it comes to black pink (aka their choreo ) cause the dances and Choreos actually fit good with their songs like savage and love sick, The choreo fits good
Ohhh, did u know that they actually do have choreography for that freestyle part? They perform it during award shows. It isn’t super mind blowing but I liked the execution. You can see it in their SBS Gayo Dajeun performance
am I the only person who likes the pretty savage choreo... imo it's "swaggy", fits the song's vibe pretty well, and oh god the "cool yg" vibes are overflowing. I personally don't think that the song "needs" a super hard-hitting choreo, especially for Blackpink's performances. Also, them doing unique and arguably "weird" moves seem like a "pretty savage" move to me since it's kinda like them doing what they want regardless of what haters think
Rou Jing nobody's hating on it. There's just better choreos than it. Plus it's filled with recycled moves and the chorus is so weird. Not in a likeable way. It's not compulsory for all of their choreos to have a reason as to why they are the way they are. It's just not that great.
I like PS choreography too. There's better obviously but It looks really nice and different to me. I love Jisoo's little leg movements in the chorus too.
@@andrikfelix6507 nope, its their best, the moves flow and fit so well with the song, the moves are unique, and that's their best dance break yet. Just because OP of this video says they don't like it, doesn't make it as the ultimate truth.
for me pretty savage deserved a choreography in the style of boombayah or whistle the choreography is good, but I had other expectations, anyway the song is a 10/10
I think lovesick girls has a fair score but as a song, it's not one that doesn't demands a very intense choreography because the song feels so monumental and nostalgic. Maybe I'm speaking out of my ass but I think it's really good.
Based on personal preference (and difficulty) 14. See U Later 13. So Hot 12. Whistle 11. Ice Cream 10. Kill This Love 9. As If It's Your Last 8. Lovesick Girls 7. Pretty Savage 6. Playing With Fire 5. Boombayah 4. Don't Know What To Do 3. DDU-DU DDU-DU 2. Forever Young 1. How You Like That
Honestly most if not all of they’re choreography is pretty easy, but that’s what I like about them. All blinks can learn the dances without too much difficulty and dance a lot and I find it nice :]
"All the blinks can learn the dances without too much difficulty"?? I can barely master the hand movements in the chorus of DDU-DU DDU-DU, can only dream of doing even half a song lmao
Your score for HYLT is higher than your score for Whistle, but you ranked Whistle higher. Idk if this is intentional or not but I just thought it'd be worth pointing out
I think you should of have waited to rank this, because the lovesick girls dance practice was rushed and they barely knew the choreography, but If you see the performances the dance is way cleaner, so it might of have gone two spots, idk.
@@luuurz Right, it can be better but they just made it like that, I really don't like the weird head move and the "you better run run" parts in the first chorus, like that song needs a better choreo.
I love their old choreo more than now 😔🥺💔 like (Bombayah - whistle - forever young - don't know what to do) I hope to see more choreos like this in the future 😭
I feel like the more they try to make the choreography unique and difficult, they miss the chances of making it more of a masterpiece. They're choreographs before didn't have much moves but were difficult to execute, eg. Boombayah, but now I feel like they're trying too hard to make as many moves as possible in one verse lol
As YG stan. I really think yg doesn't stress too much about choreo. Especially with it's former biggest groups BB and 2ne1. They didn't need a choreo lmao. But nothing's permanent fans are changing and more kids could do quality singing plus dancing and I think that's where YG has been left behind.
I have been waiting for this video, and im honest suprised how nice it was, just because everyone is always shitting on their choreo... I did really enjoy this video though! My favorite of their choreos is probably Playing with Fire! I just really enjoy watching them perform it
don’t know what to do is actually hard, ngl. i’d say even hylt isn’t easy either. y’all can’t say their choreographies are *all* easy tho. definitely aren’t. edit: y’all also forgot that one of the members is ill, ofc they’re not gonna have harder choreography...
Kieran M dkwtd has it's difficult moves, but overall I don't find it difficult. As for hylt, it would be hard to execute, especially the choreo which often makes people covering and sometimes the members themselves look awkward. For kpop standards, their choreos are easier
a hard/difficult choreography isn't only based of difficult or rapid moves. they're a group, the synchronization, stamina, formation and vocal stability are essential. y'all seem to be forgetting that one of the members is ill, therefore that's one of the reasons why blackpink's choreos have become 'easy', they have to adapt the choreography not to push the member to her edge. songs like "forever young", "see you later", "4D" and "how you like that" contain moves that, if you don't execute them *perfectly* they will look extremely awkward. boombayah is one of the difficult choreographies to perform as a solo or as a group. the moves are not difficult to execute singularly, however the choreo takes a lot of stamina due to all the jumping, formation changing, lying down and getting up from the floor and energy required. not to mention how high the song actually is to perform.
nini I do agree with the whole idea of what a difficult choreography is. Not sure whether staying, certain moves need to be perfectly executed to not look awkward- there’s no such as thing as ‘perfect’ in my opinion. I personally don’t think their choreo is impactful as before. Formations are getting similar and they don’t do much floor moves or jumping, unlike earlier. So yes, I think their choreo has gotten easier. I do understand jennie’s struggle too. As I said in my own comment, I just want impactful choreo that suits the music.
the filler part for the dance break in forever young was changed during their award show performances and it looks 1000x better than in the dance practice
I have always loved Whistle's chereo the best! I just want the girls to get choreo that does not look lazy. I love your videos so much! They are so detailed and objective. As a side note, would love to see you rank Dreamcatcher's choreos (some of the best gg cheoreo alongside Loona. Would also love to see you rank Nature as dancers (I think Haru is a really underrated main dancer).
Can I just say that I was kinda disappointed for both LSG and Pretty Savage. I was so excited when I saw the small pieces of choreo in the mv but watching the whole thing just felt,,,, messy. I think they tried to really step up the choreo again after the choreos of dddd and klt which I appreciated. But I think they really missed some parts of the choreo. When I heard Pretty Savage I was obsessed with the song and I could immediately see an incredibly hard-hitting choreo in my mind. I know BlackPink isn't the most dance focussed group but we KNOW these girls can hit some moves. Sadly watching the performance I just really didn't feel the energy and even felt like some of the moves looked kind of awkward. I'm not saying this is the girl's fault because I know they work their asses off. Idk I hope that next cb we are getting a little more spice from them when it comes to choreography!
the thing about a lot of blackpink choreo is that they have a lot of it where one person is centre and the others stand around so you just get a load of the same arm swish or basic moves
So ppl were actually telling the truth when they actually made constructive criticisms of BlackPink's 'D4' having a so-so choreography. Yet they still got hate. Smh
imo lovesick girls choreo is better than pretty savage. Forever young is my favourite tho but how you like that is a close second I loved this video and I would love to see one ranking dreamcatcher choreos please!!!
Honestly...In my opinion, Blackpink needs a new choreographer, the lovesick girl's choreo and so as the pretty savage was really messy but I did likr the last part choreo of Pretty Savage tho.
Don't Know What To Do has been my number one dance practice video because the choreo is just so good and now I know why lol thanks these videos are really interesting
I’m probably just being dumb by why is how you like that below whistle when the overall score is higher? Also in forever young that dance filler bit they have put proper choreo there now in more recent performances, yay! Love your vids!
i ask this for like every video, but what do you mean when you say "drawings" : O a video that runs down the terms you use would be really helpful for those that are interested but less fluent in dance terms!
Think of drawings in a choreo as perfect times for someone to take a picture. Like you see them all in a certain position and pose and if you took a picture in that moment, it would be aesthetically pleasing and balanced. When these moments happen in a dance the dancers will often pause in this position or move slowly in/out of it to draw attention to the moment. This is not an official dance term but I have heard it before sometimes as I am a dancer.
^ also a related term would be when dancers create a “tableau” but I think this would require the dancers to be completely still like statues frozen in time.
i feel like pretty savage choreo deserved a harder and more complex choreo because the song had so much potential but instead we got hair flips and a weird arm move....😭
Oh lmao i HATE pretty savage choreo. The song is absolute fire and the girls are super duper talented, but imo the dance just wasnt it. Also for some reason i prefer Jisoo dancing the chorus of lovesick girls than Jennie?
ARGalaxyGirl I respect your opinion. For me, I think jisoo has improved a lot and sometimes has better energy and effort. But in a technical aspect, jisoo still looks awkward/stiff in some choreo, compared to jennie
Really good video! I agree with most of your ranking. My suggestion for you: please do ranking weki meki as dancers or ranking weki meki coreographies! They're such an amazing girl group and deserve recognition ❤️
4:26 ok but I actually love their dance break here and their chorus choreo might be simple but what's important is it doesn't look lazy and i really love PWF choreo 4:38 I'm sorry Jennie but this move is really funny to me 🥺😭 i prefer PWF choreo over LSG, although the chorus was good, the verses aren't as good 4:56 i hate Kiel so much bc Lisa always gets the easiest choreos in her raps. I man she's a main dancer bruh at least give her some killer moves and not just a mf walk, she deserves better than that
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I actually like the dance break of PWF. It sure looks a bit weird at first but at least it's interesting and not boring to watch. The moves that ForGGstans praise actually don't look all that good to me. It's so interesting how people's opinions of a same thing can be so different, like polar opposite.
I’m pretty sure boombayah was one of the first music videos I’ve saw from blackpink and made me fall in love with them, I also loved whistle, it was just always stuck in my head
LMAOO why do they look like Saucy Santana when doing the arm swings in the Pretty Savage choreo💀. Look up his music video you’ll see what I’m talking about💀💀💀
As a blink I expected pretty savage choreography to be more “savage” if u know what I mean. The choreography was whack honestly I love blackpink tho and the song pretty savage
I love how much detail you put in these choreo ranking vids! I hope someday you can rank Dreamcatcher, GWSN and Weki Meki's choreos cuz they deliver some of the best gg choreos in my personal opinion
As a beginner dancer, I think their earlier choreos like whistle (or ones a bit more later like forever young) are the ones I love the most, Their more recent ones arent bad but also I dont think love them. So I can agree with most of ur points and I love ur content its really helping me getting better at freestyling and dancing :D
Why do you guys hate Pretty Savage? I mean, I respect your decision and I think it's just the thing on chorus where Jisoo gets on the front and shake their butt off on the stage is the problem. I honestly think the flipping hair makes it bagasse and I absolutely love such as BOOMBAYAH so I don't see any problem. It's probably because of how they deliver the move but the more they perform the more they get comfortable and slay the performance
I think Jisoo wasn't so good at some parts of the choreo, and well that's fine, but the fact that she was in the front during those parts kinda ruined it (not hating Jisoo tho she just needs some pratice)
I've always loved the forever young choreo. When I first saw it back in 2018, I was so obsessed. I used to watch it at least 5 times a day. It's also my favorite song by bp.
This is very random but it would be really cool if you did a video where you went to the "need to improve" tier and re-ranked them with their latest comeback
first off: sorry the intro's audio is low..... ugh
second: sorry I didn't review Ice Cream (it looks REALLY GOOD) but I can't judge cartoons dancing. And I don't have permissions to judge covers
third: what's your favorite BlackPink's choreo? Mine, like I said, is As If It's Your Last... it's so jumpy and fun
my fav BP choreography is Don't Know What To Do, there's just something about it that even just the choreography makes me emotional.
My fav choreo is pwf, but i understand why is low becuase is kinda simple ;( i also love boombayah, is so iconic.
I love HYLT, is easy and funny to dance uwu, and I really like Forever Young too because is just funny and you can enjoy it.
i love dkwtd and lsg!!!
My top 3 would be:
1. AIIYL (It really fun to watch this choreography honestly!)
2. DKWTD (The moves are very beautiful!)
3. HYLT (The dance break parts hit really hard)
Stay is their best choreography fight me
lololol
100%
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100% disagree You never know is
Let's form an alliance
whoever made the choreo for dkwtd and forever young needs to come back
they're practically just same people who did their other songs, all of blackpink's choreos are mainly choreographed by the same people (ex. kyle hanagami, kiel, etc.)
@@ahiruaki7448 Kiel literally makes the worst choreo's for BP, the recent ones. Kyle Hanagami needs to come back, he is a PROFESSIONAL choreographer.
@@livchuu541 Kiel and Kyle hanagami have both choreographed all of blackpink’s recent choreographies together, and their original choreography is always cut and changed so don’t blame them the choreographies are changed and are made accommodate blackpink to comfortably sing and dance
@@livchuu541 don't be disrespectful. Kiel is a professional choreographer, it's just they cut a lot of parts, for some reasons. maybe the members, maybe YG.
@@livchuu541 wasnt keil who made dkwtd and forever young to also ktl and aiiyl and lsg 🤔
At this point I'm not even asking for their choreographer to give them a difficult choreo. I'm just asking him to give them choreos that aren't weird and lazy, choreo that actually fits the song and gives justice to their dancing skill.
exactly
I think it's a bit difficult on the choreographer part because the dancing levels across BlackPink members are not even at all. I feel like Jisoo would have a very hard time dealing with a more difficult choreography. Jennie is a good idol dancer but she is still not very comfortable with moves that require lots of details and that can affect the whole look of the dance. It's really easy to point out whose dancing is not up to par when there're only 4 members on stage.
@@shiningyoonie true but remember Jisoo in their Blackpink Dance Practice video? If she can do that choreo, I'm pretty sure Jisoo can do more than what the choreographer is feeding them rn.
@@shiningyoonie Jisoo has improved a lot, like A LOT. The stiffness is still there but not as noticeable as before. Also Jisoo is the member that rarely skip the detail (along with Lisa). Rosé and Jennie tend to forget/skip the detail.
They can do a better choreography for sure
@@rafiansyahyusuf5203 yeah I agree that Jisoo has improved but according to the new stages, I still think it'd be hard for her to execute harder choreos. Her lack of body control still shows so much especially with the Pretty Savage choreo. But yeah, I think they don't exactly need a harder choreo, just something more interesting and less walking/hand flying around.
remember guys, just because the choreo isn't hard doesn't mean the choreo is bad
Yeah but pretty savage had some awkward moves I remember when it was jisoo rap they did little stomp and I couldn't stop laughing
Exactly! 💜✨🖐️
Exactly. Idk why ppl want harder choreography.. it’s weird in my opinion.
@@kiwipie2310 i agree, ppl want harder choreography but the second, an idol sounds unstable while live singing, they start hating on them. ppl need to realize that kpop isnt all about dancing, its about singing and performing
Right like so what if it’s simple they’re still gonna have to perform and they’re still getting paid dance doesn’t matter as long as they’re given us content we’re always gonna support them
PRETTY SAVAGE HAS THE WEIRDEST CHOREO....
the way I agree and it's making me love it even more everytime I watch it
@@forggstans same
Lol, It's true.
Its weird but good just like zimzalabim song
@@forggstans same but twitter hates it
i feel like lovesick girls choreography is being better executed at the live stages than in the actual dance practice
agreed (2) i think they haven't fully mastered the choreo when they filmed the dance practice
It’s because it’s like a dance you’d see mamamoo doing I guess-
Yeah I agree, its one of their non repetitive choreographies. The dance practice was kind of messy and I really idk why they gave Lisa a filler part where in the live stages the girls actually did a choreo
It is
@@soirann102 Ikr? I was kind of confused why there suddenly a choreo for Lisa's part had appeared? (I liked the part) but why did they not include it in the dance practice
boombayah is one of best damces from blackpink because has good formations and its catchy af
never understood the hate people gave hylt choreography, it was really good
Right!
yeaa, i love it
Exactly!!!
I guess there was too much hype around it, a lot of people wanted a difficult choreography or a dance break for Lisa so a lot of fans were dissapointed. But now that the hype is over, most can agree than even if it's not the hardest dance it is an iconic one.
or maybe because it was empty lyrically despite having a bomb choreo
The fact that the b-sides have better choreo than the title tracks😪
Don't worry, HYLT, BOOMBAYAH and Whistle exist. Also, LSG is better executed and more cleaner live than the dance practice. :)
The title tracks are supposed to be more catchy anyway.
@@lilbloomingdaisy9643 HYLT IS A BSIDE THO ;(
They dont really perform b sides as much as titles thats why maybe
@Pragya Bhushan pre-releases of an album are b-sides
we all agree that forever young and Dkwtd are the best choreos period.
I like ddd-
I thought Forever Young's was really boring but I looove DKWTD
@@astxrism8236 And it's not wrong, but it definetly ain't the best
And the fact that Jisoo own Forever Young era and shine a lot in dance move while in DKWTD, she got the most center parts actually said a lot-
YG, PLS LET JISOO SHINE MORE IN CHOREOGRAPHY!!!
Miraiku The Goddess questionable 🤒
The chorus choreo for Pretty Savage caught me off guard. I just can't seem to take the head banging swing and the arm paddle swing moves seriously. And the first move in the chorus of HYLT the arms out and dip thing i feel kinda bad cause it makes me laugh lmao. I wish a choreographer could give Lisa a challenging dance break to shine in I feel like she hasn't been given the opportunity to well and truly pop off in a blackpink title song dance
I was thinking the same think but then I saw a fancam of the entire stage (well, you can see the girls, idk if you understand) and I thought it was better than the stage they released. It just looks less weird jahsja
Honestly I just find Pretty Savage too stiff as a choreo. Like idk why but the choreo reminds me of a paddle.
@@paulaalvarado6077 Yeah I saw the fancam of the full stage and agree the camera work made it seem worse. But the first half of the chorus and the bridge choreo still are kinda a let down for me. The song is fun, sassy, and bold and I guess I just wanted the choreo to have an impact that matches the intensity of the song and I don't feel this choreo did. I get they need to sing live but I think the girls could have handled a harder hitting choreo
@@Faeriiexx I think the choreo had some nice and cool moments but mostly in the intro and verses. The choreography for the chorus just looked odd and awkward to me like it didn't fit the song very well
@@calling.moon.twelve
Yeah, I agree. The chorus is the worst bp chorus honestly. Like it just looked bad and they all looked so stiff because the choreo is odd
What bothers me about blackpink choreography is that YG never really focuses on dance, so Lisa can't really shine with difficult choreography. Sure, even if you’re not a dancer, you can see a big difference between her and the other girls, but I really wanted to see Lalisa on stage dancing something more technically difficult
I actually cant see a big difference between lisa and others-no hate intended
@@blinking8431 same lol
lisa and rosie are literally on the same level it's just that ppl don't pay attention to rosie cuz she's not the main dancer
@@khushi.11_ @Khushi Singh rose is a good dancer but she is not on the same level than Lisa. She has a noticeable tendency to overdance and her fluidity is not that good as Lisa. Rose is the kind of dancer who gives 110% of her power on the stage. Her dance is powerful but she has some issues.... and this is normal, because she is not the main dancer but she has some dynamics and put so much flavor in her movements, but no, she is not as good as Lisa but she is the best one after Lalisa
@@Vanessa-lx1gr well its your opinion, my opinion will always be that rosie and lisa are on the same level
i miss choreos like whistle and boombayah. Their lastest choreos are so weird especially pretty savage.
Facts.
And the fact that Whistle and Boombayah are Blackpink hardest choreography to learn-
Agreed... i really couldn't watch the full dance for lovesick girls... and i never saw pretty savage until this vid but both were just very meh to me. Nothing really stood out. The only song I like is HYLT from this era. Pretty savage and lovesick girls are overrated...
@@finalfantasyjrpggamer2550 I like Pretty Savage as a song a lot and so does Lisa. Lovesick girls has some beautiful melodic phrases/sentences and good singing which makes me like it.
@@finalfantasyjrpggamer2550 i think the songs themselves aren't overrated: Lovesick Girls brings back some elements that made YG groups iconic in the first half of 10' but with a modern twist and I love it. Pretty Savage, well, I think that song has a clear concept and sound and it delivers it perfectly.
According to the last rankings:
1°: Secret Story of the Swan [9.7]
2°: Fiesta [9.5]
3°: La Vie En Rose [9.5]
4°: Icy [9.4]
5°: Fancy [9.4]
6°: Violeta [9.3]
7°: More & More [9.2]
8°: Zimzalabim [9.0]
9°: Wannabe [9.0]
10°: Don’t Know What To Do [9.0]
11°: What Is Love? [9.0]
12°: Automatic [8.94]
13°: Dumb Dumb [8.88]
14°: Ice Cream Cake [8.88]
15°: Power Up [8.75]
16°: Feel Special [8.7]
17°: Bad Boy [8.56]
18°: Russian Roulette [8.5]
19°: Forever Young [8.5]
20°: How You Like That [8.375]
21°: Dalla Dalla [8.3]
22°: Whistle [8.25]
23°: Boombayah [8.125]
24°: TT [8.1]
25°: Umpah Umpah [8.06]
26°: Likey [8.0]
27°: Dance The Night Away [7.8]
28°: Peek-A-Boo [7.75]
29°: Signal [7.7]
30°: Rookie [7.63]
31°: Really Bad Boy [7.5]
32°: Red Flavor [7.5]
33°: Pretty Savage [7.25]
34°: Cheer Up [7.2]
35°: Kill This Love [7.125]
36°: Lovesick Girls [7.0]
37°: Like Ooh-Ahh [7.0]
38°: Be Natural [6.25]
39°: Playing With Fire [6.25]
40°: As If It’s Your Last [6.125]
41°: DDu-Du DDu-Du [6.0]
42°: Happiness [5.5]
43°: Knock Knock [5.2]
44°: Heart Shaker [5.0]
Then, the average score per team:
1°: IZ*ONE [9.5]
2°: ITZY [8.9]
3°: Red Velvet [7.98]
4°: TWICE [7.67]
5°: Blackpink [7.45]
I'm impressed how you memorize all this ❤
@@zerozetto2613 dreamcatcher???
omg ily thanks
You literally said “math”
Wow, IZ*ONE must have super good choreos... should I check em out?
Am I the only one who is a bit underwhelmed by the pretty savage choreo? It's cool and all but the chorus is just not it.
Maybe I'll like it more after watching it more idk
Yea it's ok, the first chorus was just weird and the second part of the choruses is just very awkward.
i find jisoo cute in the choreo because she's really trying her best but yes, i'm underwhelmed by the entire choreo too. i actually just watch the live perf to see the members' stage presence now because there's nothing to expect from the choreo
I liked all the choreo except the chorus. I agree with forggstans opinions about the formations,ripples and transitions and basically it is better than some of their choreos like dddd,ktl and pwf but that one part in the chorus where they look like they were swimming looks weird to me already. I used to like it lol
I think what made the choreo even more underwhelming for me is the fact that I saw better choreography videos of pretty savage. I think those videos were much more creative than the original choreo. The original looked so awkward
I died when you put that Playing with Fire dance break looks like they're cooking because it actually does. The first time I saw the choreo I thought they're like practicing a ritual.
My favorite part
I liked the move cuz it is not that much used in actual dances and with that I mean pop dances
time to bake a cake lol
LMFAOOO
I understand why their choreographer is giving the girls easy choreography. Ever since Blackpink has become a true global revolution, their company probably thought that if their choreography is easier, then more people would be able to follow along.
Exactly. Their choreography is easy and many people will learn it. I think that's the reason they give BP easy choreos.
@@jkv5332 tbh choreos can be hard and iconic too, or can be creative, easy and iconic. DDDD and ktl were iconic but not very creative, which is understandable but the newer songs are just...
@@suchismithakn true. I personally don't see creativity in their choreos and its repetitive. The main issue is that YGE talks big about quality over quantity but in terms of choreos, I don't see both. Its expected of one of the biggest ggs who comeback once or twice a year and have hype songs to have banger choreos but in case of blackpink it's just so so.
you are right on the part that that is the true reason, but youre wrong on the part that you "understand"
they dont get what they deserve! AND THERE IS A CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLINKS AND BLACKPINK FANS
US, BLINKS, CARE AVBOUT OUR GIRLSS THEY NEED BETTER CHOREOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
@@lukecontador Blackpink fans are Blinks. You probably mean Blackpink stans.
Actually, in some of their live stages for Forever Young they have an actual dance for the freestyle part
Yg need to give Lisa a dance break, I've noticed that she always gets the filler moves in her verse.
I forgot how good Boombayah's choreo was omg. A serve.
I actually like Pretty Savage's dance- it's really unique
(first time seeing it)
Yeah- the uniqueness is good...
•Galaxygamer girl• it's underwhelming and weird, not in a good way 😬
I like it to it's very gorgeous and swag.I can't understand why people hate it
@@gsysgsggrgeesisoso6912 It's as awkward as it could be and it doesn't fit the song at all, only a few moments can be saved from that monstrosity.
@@pretendtheresaname9213 no in my opinion it fits the song verry much it's just a perfect choreography
THE “plain Jane get hijacked” MOVE IS FOREVER INGRAINED IN MY MEMORIES I LOVE THAT MOVE SM
tbh ppl just exaggerate when it comes to black pink (aka their choreo ) cause the dances and Choreos actually fit good with their songs like savage and love sick, The choreo fits good
dkwtd is such a masterpiece. not mad at anyone who chooses dkwtd as their #1
Ohhh, did u know that they actually do have choreography for that freestyle part? They perform it during award shows. It isn’t super mind blowing but I liked the execution. You can see it in their SBS Gayo Dajeun performance
I mean for Forever Young, I’m sorry XD
am I the only person who likes the pretty savage choreo... imo it's "swaggy", fits the song's vibe pretty well, and oh god the "cool yg" vibes are overflowing. I personally don't think that the song "needs" a super hard-hitting choreo, especially for Blackpink's performances. Also, them doing unique and arguably "weird" moves seem like a "pretty savage" move to me since it's kinda like them doing what they want regardless of what haters think
I like it too tbh
Yea same
Rou Jing nobody's hating on it. There's just better choreos than it. Plus it's filled with recycled moves and the chorus is so weird. Not in a likeable way. It's not compulsory for all of their choreos to have a reason as to why they are the way they are. It's just not that great.
I like PS choreography too. There's better obviously but It looks really nice and different to me. I love Jisoo's little leg movements in the chorus too.
Yeah
Playing with fire should definitely be higher, the choreography is so iconic everyone knows it.
@@lorr.4801 in this case yes, playing with fire it's so good that it's iconic 😊
It's iconic, but it is technically worse than their other choreographies
@@andrikfelix6507 nope, its their best, the moves flow and fit so well with the song, the moves are unique, and that's their best dance break yet.
Just because OP of this video says they don't like it, doesn't make it as the ultimate truth.
can you not take opinions?
@@nini-fq9jq can you?
for me pretty savage deserved a choreography in the style of boombayah or whistle
the choreography is good, but I had other expectations, anyway the song is a 10/10
Can we talk about the first 5 seconds of "playing with fire" how smooth lisa and rose were
I think lovesick girls has a fair score but as a song, it's not one that doesn't demands a very intense choreography because the song feels so monumental and nostalgic. Maybe I'm speaking out of my ass but I think it's really good.
Personally i love the "freestyle" part in bombayah and forever young since i feel like those parts are nice to hype the crowd and themselves too
Based on personal preference (and difficulty)
14. See U Later
13. So Hot
12. Whistle
11. Ice Cream
10. Kill This Love
9. As If It's Your Last
8. Lovesick Girls
7. Pretty Savage
6. Playing With Fire
5. Boombayah
4. Don't Know What To Do
3. DDU-DU DDU-DU
2. Forever Young
1. How You Like That
I hated the Pretty Savage choreo so much when I first saw it but now I'm actually loving it (except for a few key parts)
Omg same, I just hate some parts.
Honestly most if not all of they’re choreography is pretty easy, but that’s what I like about them. All blinks can learn the dances without too much difficulty and dance a lot and I find it nice :]
"All the blinks can learn the dances without too much difficulty"?? I can barely master the hand movements in the chorus of DDU-DU DDU-DU, can only dream of doing even half a song lmao
@@MiseryParapluie same lol
@@MiseryParapluie Same
👁💧👄💧👁
Your score for HYLT is higher than your score for Whistle, but you ranked Whistle higher. Idk if this is intentional or not but I just thought it'd be worth pointing out
I think that worst moment in Lovesick Girls is the ending position that ANYONE ARE SYNCRONIZATED OMG.
I think you should of have waited to rank this, because the lovesick girls dance practice was rushed and they barely knew the choreography, but If you see the performances the dance is way cleaner, so it might of have gone two spots, idk.
never mind
Eh, don't find excuses for everything.
@@arfamo6823 i said nevermind
the whole time i was like "ice cream must be really high" 😭😭
The dance is hard but.. Zepetro😭😭 i wish to see it live in the concert.. That dance is super good tbh
even tho their choreos are said to be "easy", it doesnt make them a lesser great dancer
The ripples in Forever Young are so good- It's actually enough that I get sleepy when i replay it too many times ;-;
As a dancer i totally agree with these. Don't know what to do has so much power and lets their skills shine! I love this!
D4: *is last*
me: *throws hands politely*
I don't know the order you will put but I think their last better choreo is Pretty Savage, so weird.
the choreography ruined the song
@@luuurz Right, it can be better but they just made it like that, I really don't like the weird head move and the "you better run run" parts in the first chorus, like that song needs a better choreo.
that one part where jisoo centers and does that weird hip shake is-
@@minsugaybby I know, I hate it.
@@campahernandezdonajimariel7305 I tried to love it but I c a n’ t
You made this turtle happy 🐢
you: the ripples are just so poorly executed
me, sitting here, eating chips: nooo
I love their old choreo more than now 😔🥺💔 like (Bombayah - whistle - forever young - don't know what to do) I hope to see more choreos like this in the future 😭
I feel like the more they try to make the choreography unique and difficult, they miss the chances of making it more of a masterpiece. They're choreographs before didn't have much moves but were difficult to execute, eg. Boombayah, but now I feel like they're trying too hard to make as many moves as possible in one verse lol
As YG stan. I really think yg doesn't stress too much about choreo. Especially with it's former biggest groups BB and 2ne1. They didn't need a choreo lmao. But nothing's permanent fans are changing and more kids could do quality singing plus dancing and I think that's where YG has been left behind.
I have been waiting for this video, and im honest suprised how nice it was, just because everyone is always shitting on their choreo... I did really enjoy this video though! My favorite of their choreos is probably Playing with Fire! I just really enjoy watching them perform it
Finally someone talks about the cake mix move...its my favourite dance move to make fun of
I have been waiting for this video
You should definitely do a dreamcatcher choreo review since their choreos are always so fucking amazing
I wonder when they'll have an actually hard choreography and what that would look like :D
don’t know what to do is actually hard, ngl. i’d say even hylt isn’t easy either. y’all can’t say their choreographies are *all* easy tho. definitely aren’t.
edit: y’all also forgot that one of the members is ill, ofc they’re not gonna have harder choreography...
Kieran M dkwtd has it's difficult moves, but overall I don't find it difficult. As for hylt, it would be hard to execute, especially the choreo which often makes people covering and sometimes the members themselves look awkward. For kpop standards, their choreos are easier
a hard/difficult choreography isn't only based of difficult or rapid moves. they're a group, the synchronization, stamina, formation and vocal stability are essential. y'all seem to be forgetting that one of the members is ill, therefore that's one of the reasons why blackpink's choreos have become 'easy', they have to adapt the choreography not to push the member to her edge. songs like "forever young", "see you later", "4D" and "how you like that" contain moves that, if you don't execute them *perfectly* they will look extremely awkward. boombayah is one of the difficult choreographies to perform as a solo or as a group. the moves are not difficult to execute singularly, however the choreo takes a lot of stamina due to all the jumping, formation changing, lying down and getting up from the floor and energy required. not to mention how high the song actually is to perform.
nini I do agree with the whole idea of what a difficult choreography is. Not sure whether staying, certain moves need to be perfectly executed to not look awkward- there’s no such as thing as ‘perfect’ in my opinion. I personally don’t think their choreo is impactful as before. Formations are getting similar and they don’t do much floor moves or jumping, unlike earlier. So yes, I think their choreo has gotten easier. I do understand jennie’s struggle too. As I said in my own comment, I just want impactful choreo that suits the music.
Whistle is the first kpop song that I've heard and I love it! Especially after I saw the chero, and I just got into kpop.
the filler part for the dance break in forever young was changed during their award show performances and it looks 1000x better than in the dance practice
I have always loved Whistle's chereo the best! I just want the girls to get choreo that does not look lazy. I love your videos so much! They are so detailed and objective. As a side note, would love to see you rank Dreamcatcher's choreos (some of the best gg cheoreo alongside Loona. Would also love to see you rank Nature as dancers (I think Haru is a really underrated main dancer).
Can I just say that I was kinda disappointed for both LSG and Pretty Savage. I was so excited when I saw the small pieces of choreo in the mv but watching the whole thing just felt,,,, messy. I think they tried to really step up the choreo again after the choreos of dddd and klt which I appreciated. But I think they really missed some parts of the choreo. When I heard Pretty Savage I was obsessed with the song and I could immediately see an incredibly hard-hitting choreo in my mind. I know BlackPink isn't the most dance focussed group but we KNOW these girls can hit some moves. Sadly watching the performance I just really didn't feel the energy and even felt like some of the moves looked kind of awkward. I'm not saying this is the girl's fault because I know they work their asses off. Idk I hope that next cb we are getting a little more spice from them when it comes to choreography!
the thing about a lot of blackpink choreo is that they have a lot of it where one person is centre and the others stand around so you just get a load of the same arm swish or basic moves
YESSS been waiting so long for this videoo
i love your channel!!
So ppl were actually telling the truth when they actually made constructive criticisms of BlackPink's 'D4' having a so-so choreography. Yet they still got hate. Smh
imo lovesick girls choreo is better than pretty savage. Forever young is my favourite tho but how you like that is a close second
I loved this video and I would love to see one ranking dreamcatcher choreos please!!!
I agree, there are some parts that Pretty Savage is better choreo than LSG but its just that LSG is a way cleaner and neat
Pretty savage was much much MUCH cleaner than LSG
The thing I love about Kpop dances in general- Not just Blackpink, is how unique the dances are. They barely ever repeat moves.
My favourite is honestly playing with fire and how you like that, I think their very unique
Honestly...In my opinion, Blackpink needs a new choreographer, the lovesick girl's choreo and so as the pretty savage was really messy but I did likr the last part choreo of Pretty Savage tho.
Hablo en español xd...
Pero quería decir que me gustan mucho tus videos ¡! Sigue así, no dejes de subir videos como estos
Same, pero me sirve para aprender inglés jaja
Si, a mi tambien
@@luvieluv3956 si si xd
gracias mi amor
@@forggstans gracias a ti ¡!
Dkwtd is both my favourite song and choreo!! whole another vibe, I have special memories attached to that song. congrats on another great video ily
Don't Know What To Do has been my number one dance practice video because the choreo is just so good and now I know why lol thanks these videos are really interesting
I’m probably just being dumb by why is how you like that below whistle when the overall score is higher?
Also in forever young that dance filler bit they have put proper choreo there now in more recent performances, yay! Love your vids!
i ask this for like every video, but what do you mean when you say "drawings" : O a video that runs down the terms you use would be really helpful for those that are interested but less fluent in dance terms!
Think of drawings in a choreo as perfect times for someone to take a picture. Like you see them all in a certain position and pose and if you took a picture in that moment, it would be aesthetically pleasing and balanced. When these moments happen in a dance the dancers will often pause in this position or move slowly in/out of it to draw attention to the moment. This is not an official dance term but I have heard it before sometimes as I am a dancer.
^ also a related term would be when dancers create a “tableau” but I think this would require the dancers to be completely still like statues frozen in time.
i feel like pretty savage choreo deserved a harder and more complex choreo because the song had so much potential but instead we got hair flips and a weird arm move....😭
I dont know explain how much I love your videos
Oh lmao i HATE pretty savage choreo. The song is absolute fire and the girls are super duper talented, but imo the dance just wasnt it. Also for some reason i prefer Jisoo dancing the chorus of lovesick girls than Jennie?
ARGalaxyGirl I respect your opinion. For me, I think jisoo has improved a lot and sometimes has better energy and effort. But in a technical aspect, jisoo still looks awkward/stiff in some choreo, compared to jennie
Just watch Jennie fancam of pretty savage she is better than jusoo
@@resqxe_1422 I agree for the most part, but idky in lovesick girls i feel like jisoo does the chorus part better
You have a wierd taste ....😊☺😅😠😈
ARGalaxyGirl ok, that’s all good
For the lovesick girls , the fillers are actually not fillers in their live stage oof
Yep, why did they even remove that part in the dance practice? I dont understand why they gave Lisa a filler part in the dance practice.
@@soirann102 me too,maybe because of the cool camera angles?
Really good video! I agree with most of your ranking. My suggestion for you: please do ranking weki meki as dancers or ranking weki meki coreographies! They're such an amazing girl group and deserve recognition ❤️
YASSS MY QUEEN HAS POSTED I JUST HAD TO GRAB SOME POPCORN
I know dkwtd gonna be number 1 the dance so gorgeous, can you do gfriend & dreamchacter please
4:26 ok but I actually love their dance break here and their chorus choreo might be simple but what's important is it doesn't look lazy and i really love PWF choreo
4:38 I'm sorry Jennie but this move is really funny to me 🥺😭 i prefer PWF choreo over LSG, although the chorus was good, the verses aren't as good
4:56 i hate Kiel so much bc Lisa always gets the easiest choreos in her raps. I man she's a main dancer bruh at least give her some killer moves and not just a mf walk, she deserves better than that
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I actually like the dance break of PWF. It sure looks a bit weird at first but at least it's interesting and not boring to watch. The moves that ForGGstans praise actually don't look all that good to me. It's so interesting how people's opinions of a same thing can be so different, like polar opposite.
@@shiningyoonie same I love pwf choreo and the break dance looks amazing especially when they performed it at MMA 2016, they looked so epic.
Good job 👍 love it 🥰
I’m pretty sure boombayah was one of the first music videos I’ve saw from blackpink and made me fall in love with them, I also loved whistle, it was just always stuck in my head
LMAOO why do they look like Saucy Santana when doing the arm swings in the Pretty Savage choreo💀. Look up his music video you’ll see what I’m talking about💀💀💀
Pretty Savage's Choreo for Chorus and Outro didn't give JUSTICE. at least for me
Te amoo♥️♥️ gracias por los videos
One thing I seem to notice is that when the song is slow tempoed they're dance looks incredible and lots of feelings go into it and it draws you in
the only thing i don't agree with is pretty savage. it should be last ngl
As a blink I expected pretty savage choreography to be more “savage” if u know what I mean. The choreography was whack honestly I love blackpink tho and the song pretty savage
I love how much detail you put in these choreo ranking vids!
I hope someday you can rank Dreamcatcher, GWSN and Weki Meki's choreos cuz they deliver some of the best gg choreos in my personal opinion
As a beginner dancer, I think their earlier choreos like whistle (or ones a bit more later like forever young) are the ones I love the most, Their more recent ones arent bad but also I dont think love them. So I can agree with most of ur points and I love ur content its really helping me getting better at freestyling and dancing :D
Why do you guys hate Pretty Savage?
I mean, I respect your decision and I think it's just the thing on chorus where Jisoo gets on the front and shake their butt off on the stage is the problem. I honestly think the flipping hair makes it bagasse and I absolutely love such as BOOMBAYAH so I don't see any problem. It's probably because of how they deliver the move but the more they perform the more they get comfortable and slay the performance
But when jisoo rap part they did little stomp and I couldn't stop lae
I think Jisoo wasn't so good at some parts of the choreo, and well that's fine, but the fact that she was in the front during those parts kinda ruined it (not hating Jisoo tho she just needs some pratice)
FINALLY
TOTALLY AGREE. Dont know wht to do is the best choreo hands down!!
Didnt watch the video but How You Like That is my favorite CAUSE ITS SO MEMORABLE I love memorable
Dkwtd is superior song and choreo wise fight me
no need to fight the truth
No need to fight x2
The tea.
Oh wow im early :3
I've always loved the forever young choreo. When I first saw it back in 2018, I was so obsessed. I used to watch it at least 5 times a day. It's also my favorite song by bp.
first?
yay ive been waiting for this vid!
nice explanation and ranking
*see’s dkwtd at the top*
*pretends to be shocked*
pretty savage was an amazing song with a very awkward choreography honestly.
This is very random but it would be really cool if you did a video where you went to the "need to improve" tier and re-ranked them with their latest comeback
Your Intro sounds magical