David Lammy faces down right wing MPs over UK handing over Chagos Islands

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  • Опубликовано: 9 окт 2024

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  • @carlcassidy185
    @carlcassidy185 2 дня назад +423

    It's hilarious how every Tory is casually ignoring that their party organised this when they were in government 😂

    • @CityOfTinyLines
      @CityOfTinyLines 2 дня назад +4

      Why didn't he mention that then?

    • @mwd331
      @mwd331 2 дня назад +15

      ​@CityOfTinyLines I have no idea, it's absolutely true though. Cleverly did the talks in the first place.

    • @BikeTipsUK
      @BikeTipsUK 2 дня назад

      the right wing racists who are begging for war and scare mongering people. The double standards of losers torys LOL

    • @BikeTipsUK
      @BikeTipsUK 2 дня назад +11

      @@CityOfTinyLines he did

    • @jamesmalpus7371
      @jamesmalpus7371 2 дня назад +16

      @@CityOfTinyLinesThe foreign secretary mentioned it several times.

  • @admiralpegasuscc
    @admiralpegasuscc 2 дня назад +243

    Did the tories forget they actually drew up the terms of handing those islands back

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead 2 дня назад +18

      They didn't. They just ignored it.

    • @moonlit_forest2680
      @moonlit_forest2680 2 дня назад +17

      @@limpetheadNo they did! Chagos would have been handed away even if Sunak was still PM

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead 2 дня назад +2

      @@moonlit_forest2680 handed to who? Mauritius has never had it.

    • @adrien5834
      @adrien5834 2 дня назад +4

      @@limpethead To the original inhabitants who were expelled to make room for a US base, maybe?

    • @tomo_xD
      @tomo_xD 2 дня назад +4

      They did not. Cameron shelved the plans.

  • @calenwatters5267
    @calenwatters5267 2 дня назад +150

    Cool, let's use that "sovereignty" to force British overseas territories that are responsible for tax avoidance to stop incorporating shell companies and show ultimate beneficial owners.
    I'm sure their tune will change completely.

    • @BikeTipsUK
      @BikeTipsUK 2 дня назад

      the right wing racists who are begging for war and scare mongering people. The double standards of losers torys LOL

    • @shinkansenshinkansend8316
      @shinkansenshinkansend8316 2 дня назад +2

      What, like the company Labour just accepted £4,000,000 from?

    • @calenwatters5267
      @calenwatters5267 2 дня назад +15

      @@shinkansenshinkansend8316
      Yes. Stop shady donations, investigate shell companies and tax them appropriately.
      My principals aren't affected by party affiliation.

    • @PaulBadman
      @PaulBadman 2 дня назад +1

      @@calenwatters5267 Well said, Reform would be so pissed of if Labour where closing down tax loop holes and a better grasp on what counts as a bribe.

    • @shinkansenshinkansend8316
      @shinkansenshinkansend8316 2 дня назад +1

      @@calenwatters5267 The problem is, if you impose punitive taxation on those companies, they'll just relocate elsewhere, to an area with a preferential tax system.
      The other issue is that Labour have just spent 14 years criticising exactly this sort of thing, whilst doing it themselves.

  • @ScepticalBrit
    @ScepticalBrit 2 дня назад +294

    Some of them think we still have an empire 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Ibluntlysaywhatithink
      @Ibluntlysaywhatithink 2 дня назад

      And you are celebrating the fact that our once great empire has diminished and is diminishing further because of Labours treacherous decision in giving up British overseas territoriy? 😡 I don’t think any politician that holds dual citizenship should be foreign secretary. David Lammy is far too interested in pleasing foreign countries and the UN than in the best interests of our own country. He should be locked up for treason!

    • @vincentblack7467
      @vincentblack7467 2 дня назад +4

      What does me we are paying them as well...!! You couldn't make it up.....

    • @retr0x913
      @retr0x913 2 дня назад +10

      We still do

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead 2 дня назад +6

      That empire, helps keep you alive.

    • @BikeTipsUK
      @BikeTipsUK 2 дня назад

      the right wing racists who are begging for war and scare mongering people. The double standards of losers torys LOL

  • @wendysimpson6395
    @wendysimpson6395 2 дня назад +59

    Has he apologised to the Speaker for lying about his office? These idiots are bonkers. Bet they had no idea where the island was.

    • @SpartanHoplite360
      @SpartanHoplite360 День назад

      Everyone who has been paying attention to the news in the last 5 years knows these islands. Highly amusing that you pass your ignorance off onto others thinking they know as little as yourself

  • @donincognito189
    @donincognito189 2 дня назад +115

    Earth to the Tory Party: the year is 2024 not 1824. Britannia no longer rules the waves and colonialism no longer works 🙄

    • @chiccabay9911
      @chiccabay9911 2 дня назад +12

      They have tried to wave the rules now for a few years.

    • @theomnipotent9198
      @theomnipotent9198 2 дня назад +7

      Britannia still rules the waves, the implication being our navy is one of the strongest in the world, only really second to the US.
      Secondly the 14 now 13 British Overseas Territories we have today are not colonies, hence why they are not called so, they have their own legislature and elected officials. Britains position with them is mainly to defend, represent on the world stage and receive minor remuneration for these services.

    • @DaveSmith-s6e
      @DaveSmith-s6e 2 дня назад +6

      @@theomnipotent9198exactly this. The US, UK and Japan are the three most serious naval forces on the planet and are responsible for providing the safety and security of international trade. 9the Americans do the heavy lifting) It may not be nice that the people of 1 of the chagos islands (Diego Garcia) had to be displaced to allow for a naval and air base to be placed in the Indian Ocean, but it’s a reality that geography matters when it comes to international defence and trade, and the peace and prosperity that comes from that.
      I don’t think the consequences of this decision will be fully realised for a long time, but when they are realised it may turn out to be one of the worst decisions taken in terms of protecting global trade and the peace that comes from it.

    • @tomsiddle7583
      @tomsiddle7583 2 дня назад +2

      cognito it’s beneficial hugely to all the islands (Gibraltar, St Helena, Pitcairn etc) that they are owned by Britain

    • @JohnnyRingo-c5v
      @JohnnyRingo-c5v 2 дня назад +3

      What utter hyperbolic bull sit you speak 😂 let’s hand back the islands that never belonged to Mauritius who will now loan
      It to China 😂😂 ever heard of real politiks ??

  • @nelty0987654321
    @nelty0987654321 День назад +15

    It is disgusting to see the Tories acting this righteous as if they hadn't already planned on ceding the sovereignty of the Chagos Islands to Mauritius.

    • @dg-wb4xg
      @dg-wb4xg День назад +1

      What's disgusting is the Liebour traitors

    • @rb1062
      @rb1062 7 часов назад

      Labour can always put a halt to it!

  • @Xyzabc998
    @Xyzabc998 2 дня назад +18

    Apart from completely denying the reality of who initiated and negotiated this deal. The UK has handed back 24km2 whilst maintaining 26km2 for the next 100 years along with the US.
    The land handed back is the equivalent to 6% of the Isle of Wight.
    Poor old Tories & especially Mark Francois - still trying to seem relevant.

    • @Wiggle65
      @Wiggle65 День назад

      That's all irrelevant, what is relevant is, what is the cost to the already ripped off tax payers!

    • @SpartanHoplite360
      @SpartanHoplite360 День назад

      It's 10% of the UK 's exclusive economic area. I guess Lefties forgot the sea exists around land. Hard to remember because the UK is landlocked.. oh wait

  • @scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501
    @scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501 2 дня назад +68

    They talk about human rights abuses but made a deal with Rwanda😅
    They talk about the rights of the people of Gibraltar but ignored the 98% who voted against Brexit.😅
    They talk about colonies and human rights and yet they were the architects of Windrush.😅
    They talk about bad deals yet their own Brexit negotiater Lord Frost, walked away from his own deal with the EU😅
    The UK never respected the Sovereignty of other countries when it colonised them😅
    Total and utter hypocrisy and faux outrage.

    • @idi0tdetectioninprogress
      @idi0tdetectioninprogress 2 дня назад +3

      Pure Gold.

    • @SteveGrethe
      @SteveGrethe 2 дня назад +3

      Well said

    • @petej6609
      @petej6609 2 дня назад +5

      Yeah, well said mate

    • @mattl2k6
      @mattl2k6 2 дня назад +5

      How many actual colonisers are actually in Parliament today?
      Why should legitimate complaints from UK citizens be overlooked because a tiny minority of rich aristocrats colonised other countries long ago?
      People forget that during the reign of the Empire, the overwhelming majority of British citizens lived in extreme poverty.

    • @DARRENCAIRNS87
      @DARRENCAIRNS87 День назад +1

      98% who voted against Brexit? You mean 48%

  • @AdeboFunkyVoodoo
    @AdeboFunkyVoodoo 2 дня назад +17

    I'm old enough to remember when the last government argued that Chagos was completely seperate and distinct from the UK to avoid being held accountable for the mistreatment of Tamil refugees there. In fact they argued that is was so far legally and sovereignty distinct from the UK, that the UK membership of the Refugee Convention couldn't be applied. Ergo, the refugees had no legal rights because Chagos/BIOT were not signatories.
    Now members of that same government just a few months later are arguing that it is very much sovereign UK territory. Not distinct and seperate from the UK at all.
    Oh dear!

  • @RjK-s5z
    @RjK-s5z 2 дня назад +32

    The TORIES wanted to hand back the islands and retain the military base. Labour has done exactly what the Tories wanted.
    So the Tories can't now turn around and cry about a treaty they formed the terms and conditions for. Shame on the Tories!

    • @crispincoque
      @crispincoque День назад +1

      Any factual statement about the Conservative Party can safely be followed by 'Shame on the Tories!' 🤣

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 День назад +3

      Except they decided they didn't want to go through with it and scrapped the idea.
      Now Labour have come along and picked up the scrunched paper and put the bad plan into effect.
      So Labour bare zero blame? Tories originally wanted to, sure, but they didn't actually do it did they.
      Take responsibility

    • @robtyman4281
      @robtyman4281 День назад

      ​@@kravan5063....well that's tough then, isn't it. What are you going to do?? ...cry about it?! 😭😭😭

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 День назад +1

      @@robtyman4281 Literal childlike response

    • @robtyman4281
      @robtyman4281 День назад

      @@kravan5063 ..... well cry some more then! .....

  • @alexfielding8411
    @alexfielding8411 2 дня назад +22

    Wasn't ours to 'own' in first place and let's' not forget this is a conclusion of talks initiated by the Conservatives and it was the 'British' people that expelled the chagossians in the first place

    • @Doen5488
      @Doen5488 День назад +2

      Spot on!

    • @vibhac5403
      @vibhac5403 День назад +1

      Exactly, spot on.

    • @skyjetisdabest
      @skyjetisdabest День назад +7

      It's never been for Mauritius to own either, they've never owned it. It's just as ridiculous as giving the island to India

    • @sidebet5553
      @sidebet5553 Час назад

      £22 billion black hole, yet just announced £22billion for carbon capture which is a waste of money

  • @gabrielmurphy3405
    @gabrielmurphy3405 2 дня назад +37

    Imagine if they were this pationate about tax dodgers

  • @yozmatoz
    @yozmatoz 7 часов назад +2

    i've seen more brain cells outside my local jobseakers than in the entire labour front bench combined,,,,

  • @blackwavenoise
    @blackwavenoise 2 дня назад +19

    Wow, these Tory nut jobs are so embarrassing.

  • @WesleyLowndes-pc6tj
    @WesleyLowndes-pc6tj 9 часов назад +1

    when you giving the 6 countys back to Irish

  • @belbrighton6479
    @belbrighton6479 2 дня назад +54

    The ICJ has already ruled we need to give it back to the rightful people. Simples. And the right thing to do.

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead 2 дня назад +4

      It's 1300 miles away from Mauritius. And when we got it, it was uninhabited. Losing it puts us at serious risk. The people that live there don't want it. They are protected by British armed forces. Now, they are all scared to death.

    • @joejohnson8789
      @joejohnson8789 2 дня назад +11

      ​@@limpetheadThe people who live there are exclusively British and American military personnel

    • @grahambuckerfield4640
      @grahambuckerfield4640 2 дня назад +4

      @@limpethead No it doesn’t and no one with the slightest clue if the real world knows this, why were the previous government involved in these negotiations then?

    • @PJH13
      @PJH13 2 дня назад +1

      It is very much not 'Simples' I'm afraid. The rightful people are the Chagossians (who lived there, were dispossessed and are not Mauritian). Mauritius' claim, legally speaking, is by dint of it formerly being run by the same colonial office. The Chagossians reaction has been widely negative to this deal and Mauritius' treatment of them; how is it the 'right thing to do' to reinforce colonial era borders against the wishes of a displaced population?

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead 2 дня назад +1

      @@PJH13 wave goodbye to the protected nature reserve around the island. Say hello to Chinese trawlers.

  • @system1912
    @system1912 20 часов назад +2

    There should have been a vote in the house over this.

  • @hughjass8430
    @hughjass8430 2 дня назад +11

    Imagine paying these actors 100s of thousands a year for this Punch and Judy show. Nige is laughing all the way to his offshore bank.

  • @Mark-g5n6x
    @Mark-g5n6x День назад +1

    It's about losing most of our influence and letting others, like China, move in and I guess some of you want this to happen

    • @rb1062
      @rb1062 6 часов назад

      Lammy said that Biden is OK with it. Doesn't that tell us everything?

    • @Mark-g5n6x
      @Mark-g5n6x 5 часов назад +1

      @@rb1062 Yes

  • @ramkedoodle
    @ramkedoodle 2 дня назад +25

    "surrendering our sovereignty" "what would donald trump think of this"
    Im sorry farage what is that in the same sentence?

  • @tajj7
    @tajj7 2 дня назад +36

    What an embarrassment the Tories are, all standing up there criticising Labour for a deal the Tory government arranged and started, that has also been signed off and congratulated for by the US. A complete load of nonsense and a non-story as per usual.

    • @greentroll9326
      @greentroll9326 2 дня назад +2

      labour the party of liars and spongers

    • @danny-18922
      @danny-18922 2 дня назад +6

      @@greentroll9326 Labour are the party of the working man or woman. Trade unions and paid holidays came about by Labour!

    • @jared7080
      @jared7080 2 дня назад

      @@danny-18922 They were the party of the working class. They're now just neolib Tory-lites

    • @SammyInnit
      @SammyInnit 2 дня назад +2

      So are we admitting that the tories aren't all bad or that Labour are too weak to scrap a tory deal?

    • @mattl2k6
      @mattl2k6 2 дня назад

      @@danny-18922 You're kidding right? That Labour party is dead and gone.
      Labour used to be full of working class people, from mining communities, steel industries, offices and farms.
      Now it's full of career politicians.

  • @TigerP1
    @TigerP1 2 дня назад +21

    And the greatest loss of UK power was Brexit.

  • @weswheel4834
    @weswheel4834 2 дня назад +33

    Are the right claiming to care about human rights now?

    • @STONEWALL148
      @STONEWALL148 2 дня назад

      It was Ted Heath's Tory government that physically removed the Chagoans by force at the request of the Yanks.

    • @jitendrajoshi786
      @jitendrajoshi786 2 дня назад +3

      Yes how about human rights in Gaza?

    • @weswheel4834
      @weswheel4834 2 дня назад +3

      @@jitendrajoshi786 Or Rwanda, or the ECHR.

    • @SpartanHoplite360
      @SpartanHoplite360 День назад

      The left loves colonialism as long as it's done by non European powers i.e Mauritius

    • @iaamnew2060
      @iaamnew2060 18 часов назад

      @@jitendrajoshi786 Terrorists don't have rights

  • @KebabMusicLtd
    @KebabMusicLtd 2 дня назад +13

    CHAGOS ISLANDS: In 2019, Mauritius won a major victory against Britain when the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague ruled that the Chagos Islands should be handed over to Mauritius in order to complete its "decolonisation."
    The United Nations General Assembly then voted to give Britain a six-month deadline to begin that process.
    Britain is on the edge of finding itself as a pariah state.
    The fact remains that the previous British Government have only been using the island of Chagos for the purposes of foreign holidays and junkets. It is actually the American’s whom maintain a base on Chagos, something the natives wish to remain as it gives the island nation a strong link to the USA.
    British Forces British Indian Ocean Territories (BFBIOT): A Permanent Joint Operating Base. Although the Naval Support Facility Diego Garcia and airbase facilities on Diego Garcia are leased to the United States, the UK retains ownership and continual access. The small but permanent British garrison, known as Naval Party 1002, forms the civil administration on this British Overseas Territory.

    • @TomCotter-y5p
      @TomCotter-y5p 2 дня назад

      What's an International court then

    • @cerdic6305
      @cerdic6305 День назад

      Whatever else is true, Britain clearly was never at risk of becoming a 'pariah state' over the issue of Chagos.

    • @iaamnew2060
      @iaamnew2060 18 часов назад

      So.....
      Argentina can ask back for falklands?
      Spain could ask back for gibraltar
      Both of these cases would cause britian to become some "pariah" state?

  • @adama-k2710
    @adama-k2710 День назад +6

    Lammy should’ve just repeated his point every time that not one of the Tories criticised this when they were in power

  • @Arthur12282
    @Arthur12282 День назад +5

    corbyn have to sit near reform mps i feel bad for bro

  • @jamieyeats9509
    @jamieyeats9509 21 час назад +2

    Lammy 😂😂😂 really the UK voted for lammy to represent us to the world 😂😂😂 UK finished

  • @El_Paracleto
    @El_Paracleto 2 дня назад +16

    Goebbels banging on about 'human rights abuses'...Good God above...

  • @TotalCodeMonkey
    @TotalCodeMonkey 2 дня назад +9

    He should have also addressed Nigel's lie that it's a foreign court, when it's an international one that we subscribe to as part of our diplomatic policy.
    If we disobey the legal order we're no better than Russia or Israel.

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 День назад +2

      Hilariously ridiculous comment

    • @wjhd6823
      @wjhd6823 День назад +2

      ​@@kravan5063 Hush now Kravan you silly bot

    • @jimcobain4381
      @jimcobain4381 День назад +1

      If it’s not a British court and it’s also not a foreign court, what is it then?

    • @superguyx5468
      @superguyx5468 День назад

      If it’s not a British court… then it’s foreign

    • @ar7366
      @ar7366 День назад +2

      ​@jimcobain4381 It's an international court that the UK decided to join. The UK has almost always had a judge representing it on the court. Foreign courts are courts that the UK is not a part of.

  • @bobby9791
    @bobby9791 2 дня назад +9

    Why are Tories worried about the Chargossians, when Cameron recently said they couldn’t return home.

    • @PJH13
      @PJH13 2 дня назад +1

      Because it undermines the moral justification for the deal. Practically giving up sovereignty was not the best option, so to do it it would have be justified as morally addressing the wrongs to the Chagossians. If anything it does the opposite, trading their land to another power

    • @bobby9791
      @bobby9791 2 дня назад +3

      @@PJH13 The Tories feigning morality and empathy for the Chagossians now, when at anytime in the last 14 years they could have let them return.

  • @crispincoque
    @crispincoque День назад +5

    The performative outrage of these highly xenophobic Tories, supposedly on behalf of the population of Chagos, reminds me of the sudden concern developed by MAGAs for the welfare of the Afghan people. 🙄

    • @CB-dl1vg
      @CB-dl1vg День назад

      I’m not too political but I’m getting interested. Can you explain in a little detail how they are xenophobic? I’d love to learn

    • @crispincoque
      @crispincoque День назад

      @@CB-dl1vg Because for them, every problem in the world is the fault of foreigners.

  • @ryanconnor9240
    @ryanconnor9240 2 дня назад +5

    Tories started the Chargos work, so they are just screaming about their own policy.

    • @Colin623
      @Colin623 День назад

      But Labour finished it ! Two wrongs don't make a right !

  • @TestTester-cp4yt
    @TestTester-cp4yt День назад +5

    The Tories are just full of 💩. And why aren't Sunak and Cleverly in the House to answer why they started the negotiations?

    • @HBOMB-nl9pw
      @HBOMB-nl9pw День назад +1

      Mate, out of the lot Labour are the clowns here. Practically everyone in the country thinks this

    • @yvonnebreen955
      @yvonnebreen955 День назад +1

      Unfortunately the Labour govt even more so

    • @yvonnebreen955
      @yvonnebreen955 День назад +1

      David Lammy is so out of his depth among his more intelligent & eloquent peers

  • @CityOfTinyLines
    @CityOfTinyLines 2 дня назад +15

    What does our black hole have to do with the poor Chagosians?
    That was WEIRD!

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead 2 дня назад +3

      Nothing. He's so inept, it's all he could think of. That's how tragic Labour are.

    • @drcommonsense1
      @drcommonsense1 2 дня назад +5

      ​@limpethead plenty have pointed it out already and so did the home secretary. The plan was actually a Tory proposal. And yet, the ones that are shouting are the Tories.

    • @petelove9731
      @petelove9731 2 дня назад +1

      @@limpethead😂

    • @davidmullens2464
      @davidmullens2464 День назад

      @@limpethead No, Lammy gave a number of arguments if you listen, the black hole was a small contemptuous one after industrial scale hypocrisy from a series of Tory and RefUK Brexiters who thought nothing of giving Northern Ireland and Gibraltar to the EU.

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead День назад +1

      @davidmullens2464 we are still waiting to see what this black hole exactly is. And they don't want to talk about it. And since everyone in the party is a liar it's not worth waiting for.

  • @Tr1ckady
    @Tr1ckady 2 дня назад +6

    Tories did all the negotiation and are now crying because the Daily Mail tells them to. Blimey 😅

  • @janwallace5005
    @janwallace5005 2 дня назад +6

    Who are these people? Apart from farage they are all members of the party that started this process, would they be screaming so loud if Sunak was still PM?

  • @L-d4y
    @L-d4y 2 дня назад +28

    talking about how important the Chagos islands are when they have a smaller population than Hornsea
    I firmly doubt any of these lot even heard of the Chagosian people before the daily telegraph articles about it came out

    • @theomnipotent9198
      @theomnipotent9198 2 дня назад +5

      It’s not the population of the islands that’s what’s important, it’s the strategic positioning of Diego Garcia (the main island) besides if we were giving it to nearby countries surely the Maldives would be the likely beneficiary no? They’re 700km away rather than 2,200km

    • @davidmullens2464
      @davidmullens2464 День назад +1

      @@theomnipotent9198 The Chagos islands were administered from Mauritius for 150 years before being stripped away in independence negotiations so that the UK could lease Diego Garcia to the USA.

    • @theomnipotent9198
      @theomnipotent9198 День назад

      Correct, they were ADMINISTERED from Mauritius, they weren’t a part of Mauritius

    • @ajcamp420
      @ajcamp420 День назад +2

      @@theomnipotent9198 because Mauritius was a part of our country? Mauritius has a far better claim to these islands than we ever have

    • @theomnipotent9198
      @theomnipotent9198 День назад

      When we took them they were French, if you want someone to blame go and look at them. The Maldives were also British, the Seychelles too, what I’m saying is if it’s a case of giving them to a nearby government then surely Maldives would be a better idea?

  • @pauldockree9915
    @pauldockree9915 День назад +4

    It is taking care of business already started by the previous Regime. Remarkable how they forget.

  • @chrissmith6022
    @chrissmith6022 2 дня назад +4

    They are as mad as a box of frogs😂

  • @Supersleuth42
    @Supersleuth42 2 дня назад +15

    David Lammy couldn’t direct a seagull to the coast😂😂😂

    • @robotjin
      @robotjin 2 дня назад +2

      You do know that there are as many gulls living inland than the coastline, no?

    • @stephenblanchard8973
      @stephenblanchard8973 День назад +1

      @@robotjin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @catherinemorris5848
      @catherinemorris5848 День назад

      No such bird as a seagull.

  • @simonbamford8441
    @simonbamford8441 2 дня назад +24

    Farage is so thick. Trump wouldn’t have a clue.

    • @christurner2398
      @christurner2398 2 дня назад +2

      The US have a base on the island, I guess whoever is in power would be briefed on military assets etc

    • @readmethis4288
      @readmethis4288 2 дня назад +2

      Oh yeah and Lammy is a genius lol

    • @davidmullens2464
      @davidmullens2464 День назад

      @@readmethis4288 Possibly not a genius but bright enough to have passed the Bar exam, be awarded an LLM by Harvard Law and become Foreign Secretary.

    • @readmethis4288
      @readmethis4288 День назад

      @@davidmullens2464 still sounds and acts like a div

    • @davidmullens2464
      @davidmullens2464 День назад +1

      @@readmethis4288 because he doesn't agree with you. OK.

  • @ScottNewton-fo4ho
    @ScottNewton-fo4ho День назад +7

    Lammy is useless. How the hell did he make it as Foreign Sec?

  • @samgreen3601
    @samgreen3601 День назад +3

    Don't think David Lammy asnwered a single question properly, he could only muster up a derogatory and beside the point comment about the person asking the question.

  • @TheMightyAntar
    @TheMightyAntar 2 дня назад +12

    Good to see a British government working on behalf of the British people. 14 wasted years will take some making up, but Labour have made a very good start

  • @andrewlouden120
    @andrewlouden120 День назад +4

    Wasn't the Brexit deal advisory!! And didn't we invade and capture overseas territories?

  • @nickhallam9868
    @nickhallam9868 2 дня назад +11

    it was shocking that we claimed this country. The GB literally shipped the population off and dumped them on Mauritius in an appalling act of ethnic cleansing. Absolutely indefensible.

    • @ChrisWhite-u8m
      @ChrisWhite-u8m 2 дня назад +4

      It was called British Values

    • @Doen5488
      @Doen5488 День назад +1

      Spot on!

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 День назад

      What a ridiculous and propagandistic summary.
      The islands were purchased from Mauritius once they became independent, so the people living there had no legal right to continue living there. And just so we're clear I don't even think it was over 1000 people on the island, so it's not like tens of thousands of people were uprooted.
      To call that ethnic cleansing is disgusting and childlike

  • @MW-ml5eq
    @MW-ml5eq 2 дня назад +13

    “Did you liaise with Chagos?”
    “22 billion black hole”
    Insanity.

    • @desmondroberts6034
      @desmondroberts6034 2 дня назад +1

      Lammy was obviously referring to the jibe about Brown's gold sell-off which was worth a fraction of the money wasted by the Cons Govt. It wouldn't have nearly paid for the PPE scandal or, the 'Test and Trace' debacle.

    • @MW-ml5eq
      @MW-ml5eq 2 дня назад

      @@desmondroberts6034 wasn’t though, was he 😂

  • @alejandro_mery
    @alejandro_mery 2 дня назад +11

    Shouldn't parliament have voted on this?

  • @Paulg51-73
    @Paulg51-73 День назад +3

    On the Chagos issue. "You couldn't make it up" and stop bringing China into it. They've got their own problems.

  • @nickblackshaw9660
    @nickblackshaw9660 День назад +5

    Most of the people in that room hadn't heard of the Chagos Islands until last week!

  • @moonlit_forest2680
    @moonlit_forest2680 2 дня назад +13

    The tories started the negotiations and are shocked when it continued?

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead 2 дня назад +1

      @@moonlit_forest2680 so why didn't they scrap it. They scrapped Rwanda. The truth is, you believe anything they say and do. No matter how stupid it is.

    • @scrapheap339
      @scrapheap339 День назад

      ​@@limpetheadthe point is that the tories began the process and drew up the deal so they are in no place to complain about what they were going to do being done. If labour wanted to scrap the deal then they would also have been well within their right to like in the case of rwanda.

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 День назад

      @@scrapheap339 The tories started it but then stopped.
      Labour picked it up and continued. They absolutely can complain, they didn't go through with it, Labour did.

  • @steamkenny4385
    @steamkenny4385 2 дня назад +9

    I bet Farage had never heard of the "Chagos Islands" before a week ago

    • @AlanFagan-y5l
      @AlanFagan-y5l 2 дня назад +2

      Expect him to pay a visit now...anywhere bar Clacton.😊

    • @readmethis4288
      @readmethis4288 2 дня назад +2

      Did you lol

    • @stephendavis4927
      @stephendavis4927 2 дня назад

      He is as intelligent as what is offered in payments, just like you're buddy lammy

    • @robotjin
      @robotjin 2 дня назад +3

      @@stephendavis4927 Seriously read back your own comment, it's a grammatical mess. Is English your first language?

    • @adamarmstrong9408
      @adamarmstrong9408 День назад

      @@robotjin seriously have you ever thought that some people on here, might be dyslexic? maybe you should think before you type!

  • @DanG_98
    @DanG_98 2 дня назад +6

    Had they even heard of the Chagos Islands before this deal?

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 День назад +1

      How is that remotely relevant in any way

    • @DanG_98
      @DanG_98 День назад

      @kravan5063 its performative outrage. These people didn't even know it was an overseas territory, but they are waving the flag, pretending to be angry.

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 День назад +1

      @@DanG_98No, that's you just making an assumption and concluding your own assumption.
      Secondly, even if these people didn't know of the islands until now does not change the fact they are of immense strategic importance to our country and our allies.
      We are now able to do less and bring less to the table internationally because of this.
      So please, stop

    • @DanG_98
      @DanG_98 День назад

      @kravan5063 that'll be why the US government have applauded the deal then

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 День назад +1

      @@DanG_98 The soon to be US government thought the deal was an awful idea, because it is an awful idea.

  • @Patrickjwalsh1976
    @Patrickjwalsh1976 2 дня назад +4

    So Chagos voted to have more control.

    • @islandgirl3717
      @islandgirl3717 День назад

      We chagossians people were not consulted on this decision. Only a small part.

  • @billykotsos4642
    @billykotsos4642 2 дня назад +11

    Mr. Garage you’ve done waaaay worse disservice to your country than Lammy

  • @carstenf279
    @carstenf279 День назад +1

    What happened to all the EU-money Nigel Farage promised the Britons. Can You feel Your newfound wealth?

  • @triffid68
    @triffid68 День назад +3

    A pigsty of blethering gammon getting worked up over nothing. laughable

    • @silondon9010
      @silondon9010 22 часа назад

      Gammon, referring to someone's skin tone 😢 Oh dear

    • @MrRailjunkie
      @MrRailjunkie 16 часов назад

      @@silondon9010 No referring to the political stance that those MP's & many on the right have. Nothing to do with skin tone.

    • @silondon9010
      @silondon9010 11 часов назад

      @@MrRailjunkie your lying

    • @MrRailjunkie
      @MrRailjunkie 9 часов назад

      @@silondon9010 Nope not in the slightest.

  • @emanuel1940
    @emanuel1940 День назад +8

    I doubt any of them actually knew those islands existed before this hit the news.

    • @crustywinnets263
      @crustywinnets263 День назад

      You don’t have to be clued up on every issue in the world to know something is wrong

    • @bigd5090
      @bigd5090 23 часа назад

      I'm sure they're briefed on issues of national security and staging posts for military assets etc. You are so naive. I suppose you think soft power will keep the world safe? I guess your approach to governance would be to just shut down Great Britain Plc. and let goddess Gaia reclaim her relm? Labour are serving you well, just not the majority that still cling to common sense!

  • @keeshenarul4554
    @keeshenarul4554 2 дня назад +27

    Its not your territory! Its stolen land!

    • @mattl2k6
      @mattl2k6 2 дня назад +5

      All land is "stolen".

    • @dr.mantistoboggan4494
      @dr.mantistoboggan4494 2 дня назад +8

      Stolen from who? The islands were uninhabited when they were found

    • @alicecunningham3837
      @alicecunningham3837 2 дня назад

      A nation of bloody colonists. They don't have an empire anymore, get it

    • @adrien5834
      @adrien5834 2 дня назад +1

      @@dr.mantistoboggan4494 From the rightful owners, the descendants of the slaves brought there to work in the plantations.

    • @tomo_xD
      @tomo_xD 2 дня назад +1

      Of course it's British territory. We got it from the French 200 years ago.

  • @nicksmith4361
    @nicksmith4361 День назад +1

    Look at Lammy leaning against the box arrogantly.

  • @Будьтелюбязніодиндоодного

    Superb and well done David Lammy! Exercised decorum, wit, reasoned argument and intellect. An experienced politican who knows how to deal with right wing waffle.

  • @Perrygallo
    @Perrygallo 2 дня назад +15

    All I hear is David Lammy deflecting legitimate questions about this deal.

    • @stephenblanchard8973
      @stephenblanchard8973 2 дня назад +4

      ...you mean like Sunak did....Truss did...hilarious too see the rump of what's left of the Tories trying to be more stupid than the last....?

    • @stephenblanchard8973
      @stephenblanchard8973 День назад

      ...and Tom Tugendhat....so good he's the first to be knocked out of the field of duds desperate to lead a dying Tory party....and Bobby J....a desperate man....only to be followed by pint sized Mark Francois....a man as big as his intellect...ie....not very....!

    • @jstoner9029
      @jstoner9029 День назад +5

      This deal? You mean the Tory deal., yeah.

    • @SpenceJS87
      @SpenceJS87 День назад

      'legitimate' lmao

    • @johnpoile1451
      @johnpoile1451 День назад

      I was once asked "how many people work at CCHQ? I replied "about half". What are the rest doing while you are doing this?

  • @TomCotter-y5p
    @TomCotter-y5p 2 дня назад +10

    Why doesnt lammy stick to his part time job looking after trolleys at Tesco❤

    • @yiannidemetriou7548
      @yiannidemetriou7548 2 дня назад

      Brilliant😂

    • @jstoner9029
      @jstoner9029 День назад

      Really, this was a Tory deal implemented by the incoming government. Totally disgraceful that the Tories now pretend it’s a surprise.

    • @davidmullens2464
      @davidmullens2464 День назад +1

      Bloody daft. He's a Barrister who has also been awarded a LLM by Harvard Law school.

  • @MrMANGOBEATS
    @MrMANGOBEATS 2 дня назад +12

    This is so gratifying watching these far right mps with a thesaurus except for ids!! .. furious with a black man giving “their” territory away “love it 😂

  • @twowisemen-ze3qs
    @twowisemen-ze3qs 2 дня назад +5

    without looking i thought lammy was Dianne abbot speaking

  • @GreenSaxon
    @GreenSaxon 2 дня назад +4

    'We saw a previous Labour government sell off this countries gold'. Which was invested in global currencies and has earned this country far more than the value of the gold.

    • @superguyx5468
      @superguyx5468 День назад

      Labour announced when they were selling the gold in 2008…. Therefore the price dropped… and Labour sold gold for dirt. I am an accounting student Labour are full of ideologs and don’t know economics

    • @cubbyhoo
      @cubbyhoo 20 часов назад

      I didn't hear this post script to that most famous of smears. Is that what actually happened 😂

    • @GreenSaxon
      @GreenSaxon 8 часов назад

      @@cubbyhoo Brown sold off a percentage of Gold to invest elsewhere. He diversified our investments and he paid off a portion of our national debt, meaning the interest we had to pay back on the remainder was far less. Today, the Tories have left us with record debt and we can't even service the interest on that debt.

  • @nicks4934
    @nicks4934 2 дня назад +3

    All the angry right whinging 😂

  • @GezzyInFizzle
    @GezzyInFizzle 2 дня назад +9

    Can't remember these same people being so concerned about Scottish and Northern Irish people being allowed a right to self determination

    • @mattl2k6
      @mattl2k6 2 дня назад +2

      Scotland had a referendum 10 years ago and voted to stay in the UK.
      Northern Ireland can have one anytime it wishes as enshrined in the Good Friday Agreement.

    • @GezzyInFizzle
      @GezzyInFizzle День назад +1

      @mattl2k6 Other obvious points, the sky is blue and the grass is green. My point is these people are making their argument suit their agenda. The cry for self determination now on Chagos Islands is not what they say when self determination is brought up in reference to Scotland or Ireland.

    • @davidmullens2464
      @davidmullens2464 День назад

      @@GezzyInFizzle Exactly and concerns for the Chagossians were all but zero while the Tories were negotiating.

  • @splosh1011
    @splosh1011 2 дня назад +2

    jenrick got it the wrong way round. The British people have no interest in this island. Also these MP's also seem to miss the point where we get to keep our military base there and not allow other powers to establish new ones

    • @superguyx5468
      @superguyx5468 День назад +1

      Yes we do. We care about national security.

  • @confudeddude
    @confudeddude День назад +1

    CHINA dumped us Brits out of Hong Kong in 1997. No iffs or buts - we were told to get out by a specitic date by China. We left like a lamb.😊😊😊We should leave Gibraltar and Ireland forthwith. The Empire has gone forever.

  • @janeday9148
    @janeday9148 День назад +1

    Starmer & Lammy are out of their depth, Lammy just waffles & doesn't answer a single question ,seriously disappointing nieve full of his own importance

  • @graemereidy400
    @graemereidy400 2 дня назад +23

    It doesn't belong to you

    • @vincentblack7467
      @vincentblack7467 2 дня назад +2

      Why are we paying them as well...!!! When we are in a costly living crisis....??

    • @enigma1256
      @enigma1256 2 дня назад +2

      @@vincentblack7467 Blame your Brexit, clown :D

    • @graemereidy400
      @graemereidy400 2 дня назад +2

      Call it reparations.

    • @gothicgolem2947
      @gothicgolem2947 День назад +1

      @@enigma1256Not sure brexit is the reason why

    • @mpsymonds1
      @mpsymonds1 День назад

      The Tories were going through the motions to give the impression to the international community they were negotiating and Labour couldn’t wait to do the deal. My only caveat to that is ,I do have doubts if the Tories are that sharp.

  • @madmags969
    @madmags969 День назад +1

    Having to call Farrage "Honourable Gentleman" is surely a breach of some rule in the house about lying?

  • @GeoffV-k1h
    @GeoffV-k1h 2 дня назад +3

    About time these islands were returned to their rightful owners. The Empire is no more. Get over it.

    • @tomo_xD
      @tomo_xD 2 дня назад

      Britain is the rightful owner.

    • @Doen5488
      @Doen5488 День назад

      Spot on!

    • @GeoffV-k1h
      @GeoffV-k1h День назад +1

      @@tomo_xD Based on?

    • @grahamgriffiths7405
      @grahamgriffiths7405 День назад

      Neither is the country under this lot 😂

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 День назад +2

      @@GeoffV-k1h The fact we got them from the French in a legitimate deal, they were originally uninhabited, and to top it off, we purchased the islands from the same colonial office Mauritius is using to make its claim over the islands.
      Why can Mauritius use a British colonial office as a basis for ownership, but Britain itself can't????

  • @lynnfowles2736
    @lynnfowles2736 День назад +1

    God, this is perfected... What the hell are we paying for what is already ours and to pay for something that is our is absolutely daft... To be proud of paying for something that is already hours is bloody stupid...

  • @Doen5488
    @Doen5488 День назад +4

    Well done to David Lammy for standing his ground on this despite these Tories misinformation and factual distortions. Ian Duncan Smith really doesn't have a clue. While Mauritius maintains good relationships with all countries, including China, to suggest that Mauritius and China are close allies is incorrect. Mauritius, with a predominantly Indian-origin population and a Hindu majority, has far closer ties to India. The majority of the Mauritian population are Indian in decent, and Mauritius is very closely aligned with India not China. Notably, it is widely known that India and China do not currently have a close relationship.
    Geographically, Mauritius is approximately 2,000 km from the Chagos Islands, much closer than the UK, which is over 9,000 km away. Historically, in 1968, the British granted Mauritius independence only after coercing the country into ceding the Chagos Islands. Following this, the British forcibly evicted the native Chagossians at gunpoint to Mauritius, many of whom have since lived in poverty-a shameful chapter in British colonial history. The international courts and the United Nations have ruled that Britain's actions were wrong, and while some rulings may not be legally binding, the overwhelming consensus among the majority of the global community is that Mauritius has legitimate sovereignty over the Chagos Islands.
    This business of using propaganda to justify territorial occupations or military actions based on unfounded claims has to stop. It is time to stop spreading false narratives-Mauritius is both geographically and historically closer to the Chagos Islands than the UK ever has been. Colonisation must be brought to an end.

    • @superguyx5468
      @superguyx5468 День назад +1

      Does the EU own the UK just because we are a small island?

  • @alanrogers9597
    @alanrogers9597 2 дня назад +2

    They need drug and alcohol testing in Westminster,,, only make a speech or ask a question once you have a negative result.

  • @akosiamarillo
    @akosiamarillo День назад +5

    The Tories have no leg to stand on 😅

  • @MatthewHenry-ym6bb
    @MatthewHenry-ym6bb 2 дня назад +2

    Handovers like this take years to organise so I'm sure it hasn't been organised since Labour came to power.

  • @mistreated9186
    @mistreated9186 2 дня назад +3

    22 million black hole, lord have mercy.

  • @TEAMMAURICE
    @TEAMMAURICE День назад +1

    Jog on Iain, you have done some research on the topic before addressing the house

  • @philjameson292
    @philjameson292 2 дня назад +3

    I have never heard such tripe as coming from the mouths of the Tories. A bunch of little Englanders who have basically made the UKs sovereignty over Northern Island and Gibraltar completely untenable due to Brexit

  • @butchertyd4896
    @butchertyd4896 День назад +1

    Traitors!

  • @weswheel4834
    @weswheel4834 2 дня назад +4

    I thought that was Mike Pence sitting behind Nige for a minute.

  • @Wrtp.
    @Wrtp. 2 дня назад +2

    Please explain right wing MPs.🤔🤔🤔🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @nickmannion3879
    @nickmannion3879 2 дня назад +3

    Farage couldn't even find it on a map. But enough about Clacton....

  • @dariuswong9764
    @dariuswong9764 День назад +1

    Tory MP: have u had any convos with the Chagosians
    Lammy : proceeds to ramble on the Labour created 22 billion pound blackhole

  • @mattl2k6
    @mattl2k6 2 дня назад +8

    As expected from Labour activists they don't actually answer any of the questions put to them.
    Disgraceful.

  • @Barralet58
    @Barralet58 2 дня назад +2

    The Rules Based Order means ignoring the ICJ when it suits us.

  • @Dartanius100
    @Dartanius100 2 дня назад +3

    *David Lammy faces down like-minded MPs

  • @richardjoangreen6918
    @richardjoangreen6918 День назад +1

    Why don't they show us the proof of the 22million black hole

  • @gaznips
    @gaznips 2 дня назад +4

    No money for freezing pensioners but tens of millions for Mauritius to lease back Diego Garcia. I couldn’t wait to see the back of the Tories, but Labour are turning out to be just as bad in their political choices

    • @woodrocknetwork7507
      @woodrocknetwork7507 День назад

      These pensioners are wealthy.

    • @davidmullens2464
      @davidmullens2464 День назад +2

      All that Labour is doing - again - is tidying up the mess the Tories left.

    • @grahamgriffiths7405
      @grahamgriffiths7405 День назад +1

      @@davidmullens2464Really, a thousand migrants landed Sunday, great clear up job 😂

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 День назад

      @@woodrocknetwork7507 Not true at all, it's only a minority of pensioners that are actually well off. Labour themselves said cutting winter fuel payments would result in several thousand dead last year, so where they wealthy too?

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 День назад

      @@davidmullens2464 Labour is virtually no different from the tories on most issues, in fact they're worse on others.

  • @ajw9533
    @ajw9533 День назад +1

    Imagine having to call Farage honourable. Or a gentleman. What a job.

  • @tomkelly5642
    @tomkelly5642 2 дня назад +4

    Farage thinking the rules of how you address members in the house don't apply to him

  • @kevinwoodey5978
    @kevinwoodey5978 День назад +1

    you get all this babbling from our so called politicians and yet nothing seems to be acheived, the party who are govening us just do as they please, reguardless of whats said in parliment.

  • @gisellew8748
    @gisellew8748 День назад +3

    Tugendhat making an absolute fool of himself there. Could he go much lower in his fruitless chase to try to be the next Tory Leader? No!"

    • @superguyx5468
      @superguyx5468 День назад

      He is ex military so I think he is may more qualified to talk about this than a keyboard warrior

  • @sarkybugger5009
    @sarkybugger5009 2 дня назад +2

    Sovereign Tea, keeping the Conservative party awake at night.

  • @kat2023.
    @kat2023. 2 дня назад +5

    Most people had never heard of the place until now. How ridiculous it is to make a thing out of it.

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 День назад

      It's literally our only and furthest strategic land into Asia, it is strategically a massive deal for us.

  • @westminsterwatcher5152
    @westminsterwatcher5152 2 дня назад +4

    Dreadful man!