Cell degradation. Possible venting but LiFeP04 is pretty safe. Combustion is almost impossible, the worst that could happen is the electrolyte would burn but that's rare. The venting does release nasty toxic fumes from my understanding
$350 for 96wh??? Even for LiFeP04 this is way too big and expensive. I think I could build a similar sized A123 26650 pack at 96wh and those cells are the least energy dense LiFeP04 cells around (they're 2.5Ah 30C power cells) or I could use something like an IP2368 and build a LifeP04 pack out of 2000mah 18650 cells. That would give me QC3.0/PD/AFC and every other fast charging protocol so I could use a PD/QC decoy trigger to pull 12V. I don't see any advantage to the dashcam running off the car battery while the car is running....if the car is running its charging the pack at a higher rate than it could ever discharge and LiFeP04 cycle life is so long that it would be 10 years before you'd drive the cells below 80% of original capacity unless you drive for a living.
Did you figure this out, I still don’t know what to choose. I got the warning that says high voltage when it hit 98% from driving 40 minutes. Is there a way that it auto cuts off power once it hits a charge percentage?
@gotnocrabz I just set it to 9amps and while I was in the gym working out someone crashed into my car and ran away and I caught it all on my dash cam. But the battery app hasn't worked in months and is completely useless.
thank you , so it will obviously vary on time recording with each dash cam right? so if you dash cam goes into motion detection whilst parked then it won't use as much from the battery pack?
Hello Thanks for the video Please for the installation, do you use a 20amp fuse aswell for the added fuse? Secondly, pls How's the installation holding up? Is there anything you would have done differently if you are to do it again? Because I am using the same method to install the same PC8 Thanks
Hi, Excellent Video. The Powercell 8 Cigarette Lighter Adapter cable (DC 12V~17V Max 6A), (Length size 5ft) is short for my installation and would like to purchase a 12V cigarette lighter extension cord. Which 12V cigarette lighter extension cord do you recommend buying? Please send me the link.
So the battery pack will only charge when the vehicle is on? Two main reason to hardwire the battery pack to the car is to avoid damage to thecar battery and second reason is for fast charging since you can use the lighter socket to charge battery pack but at a much slower rate?
When in parking mode, if the USB Cable was used to power the dash cams, should I remove it from cigarette lighter socket? Also, if using the USB cable, does the dash cams work/record at the same time as the battery box is getting charged (when the car is on)?
Nice video. May I ask would under the seat be the best optimal place to install the battery pack? I purchased the thinkware ivolt battery pack to use with u1000 dash cams. Have to have it professionally installed cause I have no idea what im doing, lol
You can install it wherever you want in your vehicle. But considering the length of the power cable and amount of space needed, you have to see what works best for you. Some people put it in the glove box, or behind the center dash also. I put all my battery packs under the seat and it works for me.
How can I pair two powercell8 batteries together for longer recording time while the car is sitting? Is it as simple as connecting two of these things together via 2 prong connector? Also can they detect they’re paired?
My Sub’s ACC fuse location is marked 7.5A. Installation manual says to remove the fuse tap that’s less than 10A in the fuse box. Since you’ve picked 20A, did you run into any issues after putting it all together?
Your accessory (or device) should not exceed the current rating of the circuit. Most dashcam's consume 250-500mA (less than 1A). So tapping the dashcam onto a circuit that is rated for 5A, 7A, 10A, or 20A will work fine.
If you watch very carefuly... know one tells you the proper fuse to use according to your vehicle's make and model when using this product. Its trial and error...
It's cheaper but the more of a headache to find space , run the wiring for the dashcam, the wiring for recharging the battery and setting up the safeties/logic. Might be too much for the less technical savy user.
@@mpcp27 a deep cycle AGM battery is a regular car battery. Take out the old battery, replace with deep cycle AGM battery, DONE. Where do get the extra wiring from??? It's not necessary.
@@TheGforce013 As I read it , I thought the poster was suggesting using a cheaper deep cycle battery to replace the LiFePo4 battery and not the car battery.. That's where I was getting the extra wiring...I didn't interpret it as replacing the original car battery and forget the LiFePo4 battery. Though now that I am typing this I see that he could've have meant that too ... So if that's the case your could replace the your car battery with the deep cycle battery and run the dashcam off the car battery with a voltage regulator cutout.. Guess you could achieve the same run times if the marine battery is sized accordingly. In the long run might work out to the same cost as buying 4-5 deep cycle battery over the life of the LiFePo4.
Using an AGM battery only addresses one issue I talked about in the video which is wear on the battery with the constant discharge/charged cycle of using parking mode. These days all cars with auto start/stop feature is equipped with AGM battery including my 2019 Odyssey. By using an AGM battery, you are still going to only get about 4-5 hours of parking mode runtime. Also as the AGM battery drain to 11.9-12.0V it's at 50% charge just like a regular flooded battery and if it gets drained further, the car will struggle to start. I can tell you from experience when I had parking mode running off the Odyssey's AGM battery, I parked it at the airport and the dashcam drained it to 12.0V at which point it shut off as it's supposed to. After I came back from an 8 day trip, the vehicle couldn't start. Luckily I had a battery pack jump starter to jump the car. It's good to have these conversation and I want to share with you the pros and cons of the different setup.
The car charges the battery pack while ignition is on. When ignition is off, battery pack powers the dashcam. When battery pack dies, then dash camera powers off. The car battery is never used to power the dash camera.
Geez, 30 Degrees Celcius storage temp is horrificly low, would be useless operating in the daytime being parked outside unless you live in an eskimo climate wouldn't it? My el cheapo chinesium gps box can be stored up to 85c and 55c operating temp.
If the external battery power runs out, then the dashcam will be off. The car battery is never used in this setup therefore you don't drain the car battery.
@@dial2fast ohh, i see! I thought this batteries will work as a extension to the main car battery, meaning when the PowerCell battery has been completely discharged, the camera will continue running, takeng power from the main battery
For me this is not the option I’m looking for, due to still adding to my fuse box and cigarette lighter not to mention the price of this box of $349 so NO for me I’ll pass
I'm watching this video on February 2024, this battery is now sold for $250 + tax 😮 it's more expensive than my dash cam 😂
The comprehensive insurance deductible is less than the cost of this battery pack.
bro its now like $350....
😮😅@@enacku
Great info! thanks, If I charging pack only via cigarette socket(without hardwiring), Do I still can set parking model ?
AWESOME
So you CAN use Parking Mode via batery pack without having to hardwire to car!
This is the solution I was looking for
Yes the dashcam battery will allow you to operate parking mode recording without using the car battery.
-10-30C Is insane! Not sure where exactly you need to live, but my car gets way above and below in the summer and winter, respectively.
I have the same question also, here it can go well above 30C.
Yep, this battery would be useless pretty much anywhere in Australia
Come to India Habibi. Temperature in summers go to 62degres
What happens when it goes over 30 degrees? I love in Australia where temps can get higher that that..
Cell degradation. Possible venting but LiFeP04 is pretty safe. Combustion is almost impossible, the worst that could happen is the electrolyte would burn but that's rare. The venting does release nasty toxic fumes from my understanding
temperature rating of the battery pack is too low for leave it in the car in the hot summer.
$350 for 96wh???
Even for LiFeP04 this is way too big and expensive. I think I could build a similar sized A123 26650 pack at 96wh and those cells are the least energy dense LiFeP04 cells around (they're 2.5Ah 30C power cells) or I could use something like an IP2368 and build a LifeP04 pack out of 2000mah 18650 cells. That would give me QC3.0/PD/AFC and every other fast charging protocol so I could use a PD/QC decoy trigger to pull 12V. I don't see any advantage to the dashcam running off the car battery while the car is running....if the car is running its charging the pack at a higher rate than it could ever discharge and LiFeP04 cycle life is so long that it would be 10 years before you'd drive the cells below 80% of original capacity unless you drive for a living.
How many amps should you charge the battery for longevity? 4.5-9amp? What option is best?
Did you figure this out, I still don’t know what to choose. I got the warning that says high voltage when it hit 98% from driving 40 minutes. Is there a way that it auto cuts off power once it hits a charge percentage?
@gotnocrabz I just set it to 9amps and while I was in the gym working out someone crashed into my car and ran away and I caught it all on my dash cam. But the battery app hasn't worked in months and is completely useless.
thank you , so it will obviously vary on time recording with each dash cam right? so if you dash cam goes into motion detection whilst parked then it won't use as much from the battery pack?
Hello
Thanks for the video
Please for the installation, do you use a 20amp fuse aswell for the added fuse?
Secondly, pls How's the installation holding up? Is there anything you would have done differently if you are to do it again?
Because I am using the same method to install the same PC8
Thanks
Still working fine. You can use a 15A or 20A fuse as long as your tapped circuit supports 15A-20A.
@@dial2fast Thank you so much
Sir , big thanks to you . Your video make my installation a breeze . 😊
Hi,
Excellent Video.
The Powercell 8 Cigarette Lighter Adapter cable (DC 12V~17V Max 6A), (Length size 5ft) is short for my installation and would like to purchase a 12V cigarette lighter extension cord.
Which 12V cigarette lighter extension cord do you recommend buying? Please send me the link.
Here is a 10ft extension cigarette cable that can handle 15A amzn.to/3mwTl4k
@@dial2fast Thank you, your help and support is very much appreciated.
So the battery pack will only charge when the vehicle is on? Two main reason to hardwire the battery pack to the car is to avoid damage to thecar battery and second reason is for fast charging since you can use the lighter socket to charge battery pack but at a much slower rate?
Yes to all your questions.
It says made in Korea 🤷🏻♂️ not South Korea
Can this be charged via an OBD II connector?
wow. That's good. awesome review. thank you. I'm interested
When in parking mode, if the USB Cable was used to power the dash cams, should I remove it from cigarette lighter socket? Also, if using the USB cable, does the dash cams work/record at the same time as the battery box is getting charged (when the car is on)?
Lasts only 24 hours with Dual Thinkware U1000 in parking mode without the external Radar.
simply add an external LiFeP04 pack. A123 packs can be found cheap on Ebay
Nice video. May I ask would under the seat be the best optimal place to install the battery pack?
I purchased the thinkware ivolt battery pack to use with u1000 dash cams. Have to have it professionally installed cause I have no idea what im doing, lol
You can install it wherever you want in your vehicle. But considering the length of the power cable and amount of space needed, you have to see what works best for you. Some people put it in the glove box, or behind the center dash also. I put all my battery packs under the seat and it works for me.
proper way to connect and expansion battery pack to my powercell 8 & the placement of it?
How can I pair two powercell8 batteries together for longer recording time while the car is sitting? Is it as simple as connecting two of these things together via 2 prong connector? Also can they detect they’re paired?
My Sub’s ACC fuse location is marked 7.5A. Installation manual says to remove the fuse tap that’s less than 10A in the fuse box. Since you’ve picked 20A, did you run into any issues after putting it all together?
Your accessory (or device) should not exceed the current rating of the circuit. Most dashcam's consume 250-500mA (less than 1A). So tapping the dashcam onto a circuit that is rated for 5A, 7A, 10A, or 20A will work fine.
Will this work with the Vantrue N4 dash cam?
Also still trying to figure this out
Great video. Question: where can I get a copy of the user manual for the powercell 8 battery pack?
If you watch very carefuly... know one tells you the proper fuse to use according to your vehicle's make and model when using this product. Its trial and error...
Buy an Optima Yellow Top deep cycle battery, any AGM battery, problem solved, no extra battery pack needed.
Buy a deep cycle battery at Wal-Mart it will do the same thing for much less cost!
It's cheaper but the more of a headache to find space , run the wiring for the dashcam, the wiring for recharging the battery and setting up the safeties/logic. Might be too much for the less technical savy user.
@@mpcp27 a deep cycle AGM battery is a regular car battery. Take out the old battery, replace with deep cycle AGM battery, DONE. Where do get the extra wiring from??? It's not necessary.
@@TheGforce013 As I read it , I thought the poster was suggesting using a cheaper deep cycle battery to replace the LiFePo4 battery and not the car battery.. That's where I was getting the extra wiring...I didn't interpret it as replacing the original car battery and forget the LiFePo4 battery. Though now that I am typing this I see that he could've have meant that too ... So if that's the case your could replace the your car battery with the deep cycle battery and run the dashcam off the car battery with a voltage regulator cutout.. Guess you could achieve the same run times if the marine battery is sized accordingly. In the long run might work out to the same cost as buying 4-5 deep cycle battery over the life of the LiFePo4.
Using an AGM battery only addresses one issue I talked about in the video which is wear on the battery with the constant discharge/charged cycle of using parking mode. These days all cars with auto start/stop feature is equipped with AGM battery including my 2019 Odyssey. By using an AGM battery, you are still going to only get about 4-5 hours of parking mode runtime. Also as the AGM battery drain to 11.9-12.0V it's at 50% charge just like a regular flooded battery and if it gets drained further, the car will struggle to start. I can tell you from experience when I had parking mode running off the Odyssey's AGM battery, I parked it at the airport and the dashcam drained it to 12.0V at which point it shut off as it's supposed to. After I came back from an 8 day trip, the vehicle couldn't start. Luckily I had a battery pack jump starter to jump the car. It's good to have these conversation and I want to share with you the pros and cons of the different setup.
@@dial2fast That's why you add a deep cycle and segregate it from the main lead acid batt
So if I hardwire a battery pack. It uses the battery pack first and that's it? Or it uses the battery pack and then car battery?
The car charges the battery pack while ignition is on. When ignition is off, battery pack powers the dashcam. When battery pack dies, then dash camera powers off. The car battery is never used to power the dash camera.
@@dial2fast 👍
Using the blackvue dr750x-2ch - what output cable is needed?
The Blackvue uses cigarette lighter socket connection.
Thanks for the video
Which output cable should I select for the G-ON3 dashcam?
The G-ON3 uses the same power cable as the Thinkware dashcam. So choose the Thinkware output power cable.
Thank you.
Geez, 30 Degrees Celcius storage temp is horrificly low, would be useless operating in the daytime being parked outside unless you live in an eskimo climate wouldn't it? My el cheapo chinesium gps box can be stored up to 85c and 55c operating temp.
Storage temperature needs to be improved
Q: what if the external battery runs out, does the camera then would be still powered by the battery of the car?
If the external battery power runs out, then the dashcam will be off. The car battery is never used in this setup therefore you don't drain the car battery.
Phosphate wouldn't explode? Harhar.
how to remove battery from honda odyssey 2018 - 2023 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Powercell 8: $349.00 - as of November 06, 2023
Excellent Review! Thanks!
What happen when the PowerCell battery becomes empty, does the camera continue to record , powered by the car main battery?…
With any dashcam battery system, the car battery is never used to power the dashcam. Once the battery pack is dead, the dashcam will be off.
@@dial2fast ohh, i see! I thought this batteries will work as a extension to the main car battery, meaning when the PowerCell battery has been completely discharged, the camera will continue running, takeng power from the main battery
when the battery pack is low, how does it get recharged?
Drive your car.
Thank u boss
For me this is not the option I’m looking for, due to still adding to my fuse box and cigarette lighter not to mention the price of this box of $349 so NO for me I’ll pass
The discount code no longer works
I got one yesterday and it won’t charge via cigarette port, disappointed
same here
it should only start charging when you turn on your ignition
The BI 750 was bad quality. I had 3 defective units in 6 months.
He's not driving a Hyundai? WATDAFAKU?!
Excellent review, thank you sir!