This Has NEVER Been Discussed On the Show!?! | Andrew - CA | Atheist Experience 24.22
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- The Atheist Experience 24.22 for May 31, 2020 with Matt Dillahunty & Don Baker.
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"Why do I need forgiveness from an invisible mass murderer?" I love Don Baker.
Not to be that guy, But. They (Matt/Don) corrected it to.
"Fictional invisible mass slaughterer"
You are right about Don though he does love to drop in those little bombs. :)
Lol
And then basically gets the caller to agree with that characterisation.
Right so the old covanent was OK right up to the new one so why did the big sky daddy change it if they are infallible?
Let's leave the bible out of this 😂😂 is that not the point of atheism.
@@chrissilver7719 But they still love the 10 commandments? Wasn't that in the "old covenant"?
I once saw a documentary featuring holocaust survivors, and I remember one man said, “When I go to heaven, God has to answer to ME and beg MY forgiveness.”
“If there is a God, he will have to beg for my forgiveness.” - etched on the wall of a concentration camp
“Why do I need forgiveness from an invisible mass murderer?” Oh Don; don’t ever leave the show. 😂
Exactly
I wish he would come back 😩
I hope he comes back.
@@mariomlecka he is invisible. No voice, no book updates, no evidence of love seen.
What invisible mass murderer? Nature? The thing that so far has killed everything that ever died?
This guy takes 1st prize for speaking the longest without actually saying anything
Went to the Jordan Petersen school of word saladry.
@@robertbetz8461you beat me to it! 😂
I love how Donn sits there quietly for almost the entire show and then drops such a savage comment at the end lmao
My thoughts exactly.
Made my day.
So true.
His comment at 11:12 👊💥
Yes BUT BUT BUT BUT ... the way the Christian mind twists all the contradictions is by ASSUMING that all things God does is justifiable because he is perfect right. I know this because I was that ignorant Christian fir 51 years but I'm so thankful I pulled out of it, and know better now. I'm learning new things about science and observing humanity and things from an open mind now. I want to spread THAT gospel all over the world.
Every time he's proven wrong: "hold on, let's go back to my script"
😂
One thing I’ve learned for sure in life is that when a Christian says they have something you’ve never heard before or that they have “proof” of something, turn around and run because you are in for a gigantic waste of time... in this case it’s almost 20 minutes worth of waste.
"does it rely on the bible at any point in your argument?", if yes, then see ya.
@@johnandersons how about this one
The bible says god is love
The bible says love is not jealous
The bible says god is jealous
Conclusion, the bible cannot possibly be right
@@uninspired3583 jealousy is a "sin", god says "I'm a jealous god", so god is a sinner.
Time to leave that religion 😂.
Caller : "Let's stay focused, let's stay focused"
Ugh, maybe it's just me, but that level of arrogance/condescension is hard to listen to.
He says, "let's stay focused", but what he means is "I don't want a dialogue here, I want to give my sermon, so stop deviating from my script". I suspect the problem is that he's too used to dealing with idiots and children, so he malfunctioned and "let's stay focused" came out as if it were relevant, instead of a more situationally appropriate response.
'Let's stay focused on whatever it is I'M trying to prove here' UGH 🤮
When HE kept going back to the Bible and not staying focused.
It means "Don't ask questions"
@@arthousefilms Let's stay focused here, Andrew is the lodestar of his youth groups in sunday school when he holds sermons to 10-year olds.
This reminds me of the people who claim they have an argument that "no atheist has ever heard" and then proceed to say "look at the trees"
Or the people that confront you on the street and say "Hello, friend, do you have a moment so that I can tell you about Jesus?" It's like what country do you think you live in where the average person hasn't had Christianity shoved down their throats since childhood?
When you live in a church bubble, you're taught not to question the sky dictator. None of those chumps have ever heard a single word any atheist had ever said. Even when taking to atheists, like this caller is, they never hear any of it. They just bullshit, pause, ignore rebuttals, then bullshit again, and repeat.
@@OfficialSeth LOL I'd say "ears" instead "throats", but that wouldn't sound as hilarious.
@Magical Chemical Daddy Why are you so obviously scared of logic and so butthurt?
What is pathetic is commenting on videos you don't watch. LOLOLOLOLOL You're adorable.
What kind of trash actually dedicates his pathetic life to something you can't prove is real???? Oh, right, you are that trash, sadface for you :(
It's pretty telling that nobody here is talking about fondling balls, except you, you sound like you have a lot of urges you're trying to supress because of your invisibly sky daddy. Really nothing more pathetic than you, frankly.
Oh, if you feel like responding, go ahead and start by demonstrating your sky daddy is a real thing. If you can't do that, nothing you say holds any value nor truth.
Every response you don't, I'll just respond with that copied and pasted, to make sure your can't hide nor run from the only point that matters; you not being able to prove your sky daddy exists.
@@OfficialSeth I didn't. I was fortunate. Then one day when I was 7, I went over to my cousins' house and saw a detailed crucifix, and thought "What is this horrible thing? Are those nails going through this guy's hands? I'm going to have nightmares." Even today I think crucifixes are some of the creepiest things people keep in their houses.
Caller is his own brand of insufferable. Polite, at least, but sooooo confident he's got it all figured, and how altruistic of him to bestow the wonder of his perfect argument upon us all.
So convinced he's doing a favor to others
At least, at first
Yep. The arrogance and smugness of this guy is unbelievably annoying. Especially since nothing he is saying is useful or reasoned.
The caller lacks humility.
@@judyives1832 You mean the way he spoke, OK? Let’s just focus on HIM and how he SPEAKS OKAY?
Seriously, dude has some mighty cult leader vibes, don’t he? 😂 😒
Where I'm from, callers like that are called jackwagons.
"I stand corrected". I love Don's ability to allow a better explanation of his thoughts.
It greases the wheels of understanding.
Moral codes are so subjective. It has nothing to do with some sky daddy
So nice that Flanders made the time to call the show.
You know I was waiting for an okaly dokaly...
Oh Morgan,, i always pause about 3 minutes in so I can do a real quick scan of comments
First look I thought you said,, So nice that Flatearther made time......
Hmmmmmm, on second thought maybe we both right..🤣🤭🤣
Hens love roosters, geese love ganders....
The old Christian tap dance starts when they can't/won't answer a Yes or No answer.
Yep lol
If they answer with a yes or no then it would prove them wrong. So they can't do that.
@@Goldfiend How did you come to the conclusion that they will be proven wrong? What makes you think that their interlocutor has the faculty to prove them wrong in the first place? What if the question in question (no pun intended) constitutes complex question fallacy? Would you then still prefer yes/no answer given that the presuppositions in the question have not been sufficiently proven, and face the inevitable sophistry that adds nothing of intellectual importance to the discussion but cheap sazz and the sense of feigned superiority?
Anakin Lumluk Goldfiend is merely describing the common reaction from Christians. Dodging direct questions is a tell that someone has something to hide.
@@TheDizzleHawke I confused "they" in his comment, didn't I?
Hell exists, its being locked in a room with Andrew with no way of shutting him up
I love the way the caller assumes he can assume control. "We're gonna go down a path" and " you can ask questions" What kind of etiquette is that?
I know, that rubbed me the wrong way right from the get go.
Typical youth pastor etiquette
The unfettered egotism of the righteous. F*cking sad and sick.
Patronising religious fascist etiquette
Tip for future callers: Don't try to come off being so smug like Andrew did. It doesn't get you any points. Also, leave your dancing shoes at home and don't try to tap dance. This isn't a dancing hall.
Tip for future callers: stop being fucken religious idiots.
@@DunmoresMovieMania 😂😂😂
❤this
I'm surprised when it's a non-Smug theist
There is no code written on your heart, your heart just pumps blood, nothing more.
Thank you Mr. Literal.
Unless you play Cyberpunk 2077 and buy the Arasaka Epic Blood Pump at a ripperdoc.
@@TheRealFumigator so? Writing code anywhere in a human body is nonsens. Even the woord ‘code’ is just a label. Stupid theist nonsens.
Yeah it is. God is the existence of Love. Everybody believes Love exists.
@@damianedwards2327 "God is the existence of Love" - Any evidence for your nonsense?
“Why would I need forgiveness from an invisible mass murderer?” There it is.
It's like the old Dead Parrot routine from Monty Python.
"This parrot is dead!" "No he's not."
"Your god is a slaughterer!" "No he's not."
"He's taking a nap." "No he's not."
"He's pining for the Fjords". Ha too funny.
This guy reminds me of the Python sketch The Five Minute Argument , No it’s not , yes it is , etc
@@RogueBurn I recommend the live version of that where Cleese goes "piiinin for the fjooOOOOOOORDDSS! " lol
This call was soooooo confident in his cleverness and originality, neither of which were actually there. 🤣
Arrogant ignorance is sometimes the most frustrating AND humorous kind out there.
He sounds like he’s getting ready to tell me why abstinence is cool.
Right. Just resist betraying the code!
@Remember The Future I do agree. In terms of teen pregnancy abstinence is the best, but obviously not the only, policy to adopt to avoid the potentially bad outcome
@@brendenpeterson5684 : Unmarried Christian teens have the highest number of pregnancies in the southern states.
@@anonymousjohnson976 I didn't say that abstinence is the ONLY policy. What I was trying to get across was that abstinence is the BEST thing to do to avoid those issues;I am also in support in good sex ed, birth control, and the use of condoms. The point that I was trying to get across is that the previous methods are good, it's just that the best way to avoid teen pregnancy is too simply avoid having sex until they are older
@@arthousefilms Then there's "another hole" loophole.
I love when you lead people on a line of questions and get to a point where they know they cannot answer
The cute little 'O-kay' is always the sign of a programmed believer.
He rehearsed this with his christian buddies before he called in..
And failed miserably when off the script
Duh, not murder!
Duh, not limited to human traits
Duh, can you bring Don back to life? (that one is exceptionally stupid)
Duh, god has the *ability*...
Dennis totally.
There isn’t anything wrong with that. As long as he honestly engages with what Matt and Don say.
*Andrew:* "What source, or what force, or what is there, what exists, that's causing me to do another action other than what I want to do?"
*Daniel:* "Uh... sin?"
*Andrew:* "That's correct! Wow, this call is going to go so well for me!"
Why do I need forgiveness from an invisible mass murderer?!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Good point!!! Otherwise the good lord of peace and love will send you to the lowest dungeon Hell where you will burn in sulphur fire for ever where even your shadows will be of flame .
@@Rob-ys6ot god of peace and love that will send me to burn forever doesn’t sound very peace and love. I can live the exact same life and the only thing that won’t have me burn is to submit to some entity that doesn’t reveal itself in any tangible way that requires faith to get the benefits?
@@nisse18 he can order others to do his bidding which he has. Try again.
@@nisse18 Yeah, you right. It was MASS SLAUGHTER!!!!!!!
@@nisse18 special pleading and moving the goal post.
From "can't murder" to "only if it's moral" to eventually..."who are you to question Bible God?"
Andrew fancies himself as a preacher, but he'll need to overcome his anger at anyone questioning him.
This guy has simply watched how a few therapists talk on TV shows, then thought.... “I can do this too.” Nope.
Ricky Gervais - "why doesn't God kill the Devil ?".
Who would watch over us in hell?😁
@Charlesmarcelpage that's exactly what Satan would say.
Why ever have a story with an antagonist? It surely serves no purpose ....
@luvnbeast It was a joke dude. Satan is made up.
@@fevah6790 well the devil was a bit player in the Bible - barely mentioned - it wasn't until the Catholic playrights added a lot of the mythology of hell and Satan into the mix that we got the devil we know so to speak. So yes, it's mostly a fable.
I love Matt’s arguments, but I like it more when Don gently runs his logic steamroller over the caller’s concepts with one simple question....
Squish
50:1 likes v dislikes 😂
Don is cool, calm, and slays the caller with just one question. Matt is a hot head.
Matt is entertaining, and his knowledge of the Bible is pretty much second to none. But Don is probably my second favorite host on the show. Plus his failures of Christianity segments are amazing. For me the best episodes are the two of them together, as they balance each other out really well.
And then his mild mannered "Yup, I stand corrected" at 16.58. Comedy gold!
Don "I stand corrected." Baker
Don has an amazing ability to play off of Matt's personality in such a great way. XD
When the call screener said he had something to talk about that was never discussed... I knew he was in trouble... Lmao
Wow. I think I've just dropped into another universe: Matt was insanely more patient than I would have been. Andrew is clearly running a script and being utterly smug and smarmy about it, and Matt just sat there and let him run it without even saying "Andrew, please stop running your script and jump to the end. What is your actual point?"
(On mobile, can't edit.) I should have said "did not **immediately** tell the guy to jump ahead.
David K. Storrs It should be perfectly possible to edit on mobile.
The caller wants to lead Matt down the path he has created and doesn't want any questions asked along the way.
@@davidstorrs good news, you can edit on mobile now
This caller uses a tone of voice that cries out for a hard punch to the face.
Ha ha!!
@Magical Chemical Daddy Who are these "athiests" that you speak of?
@Gelmir Curufin No, a closed fist, right to the face.
@Joe Horn he just loves showing how stupid he is.
Magical Chemical Daddy
Beg my forgiveness, for I am your Lord.
Omg when Don just came in after Matt's high brow arguments and just distills everything thing down to that crushing question, you can actually hear the gears in that guys head screeching to a stop and then pinging off each other as they fall broken. I had to pause the video because I was laughing so hard. Just crushed the guy.
"I stand corrected." lol. The best concession ever.
"If we were perfect, we wouldn't have needed a moral code in the first place, because we'd never make mistakes." Words for the ages.
“Correct, but let me ignore what you just said and get on with my drivel”
As I listen to this it makes me think that I do not have a moral code within me. Well, I do NOW, but I was not born with it. My moral code is something I had to learn. And it is now different from the original "code" I had learned because my views have changed. My experiences are different. I have matured (I hope).
I miss Don so much. I really hope in the future he would come on as a guest a few times here and there. Much love.
The only thing wrong with this vid is that we had no music to go along with Andrew's tap dance.
The Benny Hill theme comes to mind.
Lol 😂😂😂😂
Haha ha good one
I find myself thinking of the scene in Back To The Future Part 3 where Marty meets Buford Tannen, only he bungles the jump for the spittoon.
God does not listen to the unbelievers prayers. Because they do not love God first forever today.
Even Christ Jesus told people there going to burn in hell forever and ever. Because they don't love God first forever today.
God/Christ Jesus is going to throw you into hell to burn forever and ever. Because you do not love God first.
LOVE GOD FIRST FOREVER TODAY. OR GOD THROWS YOU INTO HELL TO BURN FOREVER AND EVER. AND THE DEMONS IN HELL WILL TORMENT YOU FOREVER AND EVER. BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T LOVE GOD FIRST FOREVER TODAY.
God made the big bang. And God made evolution. Love God first forever today. Or God throws you into hell to burn forever and ever. Love Christ Jesus first today because he was God in the flesh. It's 3 in one with the holy spirit. Love God first to.
Love God first forever today. Or God throws you into hell to burn forever and ever. And the demons in hell will torment you forever and ever. Because you didn't love God first. Love God first forever today. Or God throws you into hell to burn forever and ever. Love God first forever. Christ Jesus is God.
God made the big bang that you atheists love so much. And God made evolution that you atheists love so much. You atheists love denying it.
God has no love for those who die an atheist. God has no love for those who die loving porn more than God. You do not understand that God is a Jealous God. Love God first forever today.
There is evidence for God. But you stupid idiots never looked for the evidence of God because you want to burn in hell forever and ever. Love God first forever today so you don’t burn in hell forever and ever.
The evidence that proves God to be real. That you never looked for. You can test the evidence for God out you’re self like I did. Do this at you’re own risk.
1 Spirit box and wonder box proves demons. To be real. And it proves. Bible to be real. Because you can talk to them and they tell you they are a demon. Demons are from the creation of God. Because God allowed demons to be born from his creation. A demon is a hideously ugly evil spirit that lives forever with a spiritual body that was born from a immortal angel mating with a human women. The result a ugly demon is born. You see God didn’t make demons. God allowed demons to be born.
And God makes the demons work in hell to torment and hurt everyone in hell because they did not love God first on earth. Love God first forever so you don’t burn in hell forever and ever. Love God first forever so you aren’t tormented and hurt by demons in hell forever and ever.
2 The eye witnesses that have seen demons saw they have huge wings. Just like the bible says angels have wings and demons also have wings. And when you talk to the demons with spirit box they know you’re name because the demon has been watching you. The spirit box machine is true evidence for God being real. Because with the spirit box machine you can talk to ugly immortal demons that know God. But the demons still do not like God. Because God doesn’t love demons. God hates demons. Meaning demons hate on God with the spirit box machine that sucks there but whatever. The spirit box machine still proves God to be real. Because demons inherited their immortality from God. And the demons know it.
With spirit box machine in a room alone you can test it out you’re self and you will hear and see that demons are real because they know you’re name. And the demons know the color of your shirt. It’s because the demons are watching you. The spirit box has a mic for the demons to talk to you with it and for you to hear them from the spirit box.
And even when humans see demons when they wake up for 1 second. Or for 10 seconds they see the demons staring at them when they wake up for 5 or 10 minutes. The stupid human doesn’t want to believe in demons. Because the stupid human wants to burn in hell for all of eternity.
You see people have seen demons and people have heard demons telling them there going to burn in hell forever. But the stupid human thinks it’s just their mind. Mentally retarded human wants to burn in hell for all of eternity. I’ve heard idiot doctors saying when people see demons it’s just their mind. Stupid doctors demons have been proven to be real. I’ve proved demons to be real many times before. And others have proven demons to be real to. Stupid doctors, stupid nurses and stupid therapists make people burn in hell for all of eternity. With their medical garbage against God. But it’s okay because God throws everyone into hell that does not love God first forever to burn for all of eternity.
3 And the many rare gifted humans. That have the gifts from the Bible to understand spirits. Gifts sometimes have bad side effects. The side effects from these gifts can be awfull sometimes. To understand spirits means to hear them. Some gifted people can hear demons talking about them and demons talking to them. The demons constantly make fun of the stupid human. Saying you’re going to burn in hell in forever. You see the gifted humans hear demons warning them about hell. But the stupid human still doesn’t believe in hell. It’s because most people burn in hell for all of eternity. Meaning even when humans hear demons warning them about hell. They still burn in hell forever. Because they didn’t love God first forever.
4 There’s even cursed houses to prove God is real. The names of God. Like Christ Jesus. And Tetragramaton can make a place not haunted for a while. But the demons come back to haunt the place because it’s just the way demons are. And the names of God work in exorcisms to make a demon leave a possessed person. Exorcism are rare. And you can tell when an idiot is faking to possessed by demon. In real exorcism things start to levitate in the room. In real exorcism the possessed person starts insulting the exorcist in a language they never learned. Because the demons inside the person are talking in a different language.
5 And God has shown himself to people before more than once. Even the demons know about God but the demons still didn’t want God. The demons wanted to please themselves not God. And now the demons are going to be thrown into hell because they didn’t want God first forever. And because you don’t love God first forever. You also burn in hell forever because you don’t love God first forever.
6 Another evidence for God being real. And for demons being real. Demons have shown themselves to people before. When a person sees a floating spirit going throw walls the person thinks. Maybe I’ll die and be a ghost to. Wrong. The demon has succeed in making you burn in hell for all of eternity. When you start thinking you die and come back as a ghost the demon has fooled you into not wanting God and the demon is making you burn in hell forever because it’s a stupid human. That needs to love God first forever.
7 When a demon gives a living human memories of a dead person. The stupid human thinks I have memories of a dead person. It must be my past life. Wrong. A demon gave you those memories because the demon wants to make the stupid human burn in hell for all of eternity. And it works the demon is very successful in this method.
8 When a demon shows it self to someone as Christ Jesus. And says the huge lie of all religions go to heaven. You suck at lying you demon spawn. Only few people go to heaven. Most people burn in hell forever.
The demon likes to make stupid humans burn in hell for all eternity. Because the demon is going to be a tormenter in hell. You see the demon is using hell from God. Because the demons are scared of being in hell. The demon is scared of hell that’s why the demons wants alot of toys in hell with him. To have fun beating stupid humans in hell forever and ever.
9 cursed objects from demons and the bad side effects are not pretty. Side effects are
A lot of nightmares. I tested the nightmares from cursed object on myself. It’s true. Other bad side effects also occur with cursed object.
10 Every body knows who God is on judgment day from God. Because the name of God is known. And used in exorcisms. And God has one hole in his left and right palm. And one hole in his right and left foot. Because God let himself be put on a cross. To show that there is no greater love than him God in the flesh. Everybody knows who God is on judgment day. Everybody begs for mercy on judgment day with their faces to the floor. And the giant God still throws most humans into hell because they did not love God first. Love God first forever because God was Christ Jesus in flesh. It’s 3 in one with the holy spirit.
Love God first forever today or God throws you into hell to burn forever and ever. With the demons to torment you forever and ever in hell. Because you didn't love God first forever today.
11 I’ve read the awfull flawed arguments for lizard people being real and it’s very fake. The flawed lizard people arguments is atheist and stupid. It’s demon spawn cursing humans with illusions to mess up humans sight so the stupid human burns in hell forever. Well done demon spawn you proved God to be real by using your demon magic on a human. And you proved hell to be real well done demon.
12 Making a deal with a demon makes you burn in hell for all of eternity.
13 Demons messing with humans trying to make humans burn in hell for all of eternity. With the demon showing humans green numbers on their eyes to make the human think there in a computer. And the demon is successful in this because the demon makes people burn in hell forever like this. Love God first forever so you don’t burn in hell forever.
Love God first forever today or God throws you into hell to burn forever and ever. With the demons to torment you forever and ever in hell. Because you didn't love God first forever today.
Andrew: _"Look at the bible and this 'true' opinion!"_
Matt: _"The bible condones slavery."_
Andrew: _"Let's stop talking about the bible! Now, let's look at the biblical statements..."_
@Viktor Tandofsky _"ATHEISTS LIKE TO WASTE TIME."_ -- We demand justification for theists trying to shove their childish, nonsensical bullshit down everyone else's throats. If theists would keep their idiotic fairy tales to themselves, atheists would stop "wasting our time" explaining how fucking MORONIC believing in stories about wolves blowing down brick houses that pigs build.
@Viktor Tandofsky _"ATHEISTS LIKE TO WASTE TIME."_ -- Also, no we don't. We are HOPING that we can bring some semblance of common sense to the conversation. You are right in that, most of the time, we DO waste our time, but that's because theists are so irrational, so childish in their thinking, so stubborn in their self-imposed ignorance and stupidity, that we can't get them to understand the most basic logical concepts. Much like you, here: It is IRRATIONAL to believe something "on faith" because faith NEVER, EVER brings a person to the actual truth. But people like you wear blind, unfounded faith like it's not a horribly misleading waste of human experience.
@Viktor Tandofsky If it is just about faith, why are so many political decision, laws etc made based belief in a God and the associated garbage. Atheists care because all that baggage its constantly intruding in our lives.
That fact that not just your personal decisions but a lot of decisions about the social fabric are made based on the Easter Bunny really annoys us.
I'll name 5 for you. Christmas, Easter, the reason our current Secretary of Education doesn't want evolution taught in schools, the fact that we STILL have to argue for LGBTQ+ rights, and the constant attemlts to teach God in public schools. All of this comes from a particular religion and is forced upon everyone else in ghis country who doesn't believe in it.
you see, everyone who isn't a Christian is constantly fighting for a right to be heard as loudly as Christisns are. Don't believe me? What does our money say? What words have been added to the Pledge of Allegiance and why? How many courthouses or government offices have copies of the Ten Commandments in them? How many have other religion's rules of law? Christianity is constantly shoved down the throats of every American citizen every day and that's still not enough for most Christians. Have you ever even once thought about what it's like to not believe in the Bible in this country?
The heart is a muscle that moves blood. There is nothing written on it unless a replacement part has a number written on it
"This has never been discussed on the show!"
Matt: *smiles*
"Morality"
Matt: *his smile and enthusiasm- Gone*
If I've transgressed against my own moral code, why would I need forgiveness from some entity outside myself? Can I not forgive myself?
Whenever I break my moral code I ask myself for forgiveness. I always give it because I love myself but I didn't prevent myself from breaking my code because I give myself freewill even though I knew exactly what, when, where, and how it would happen log long ago in a galaxy far far away.
Agreed! Getting god to forgive you your transgressions absconds you from taking responsibility for your actions. So so many atrocities occur every day where many people are hurt and damaged. So instead asking for forgiveness from the people that you may hurt in the process you get god to forgive to you. What a coward and dishonest move theists.
@@clydeoakes6156 ask most prisoners, they all of a sudden turn to the heavens for forgiveness like it's a lucky packet, until they get out of course.
Or obtaining forgiveness from the person you have harmed, instead of whatever supernatural being
specially from an entity that according to everything we can know about it has an entirely different moral code.
I should ask forgiveness to it if I eat shrimp more than if I raped someone.
I laughed out loud how Matt and Don were in sync while calling out a "invisible mass murderer..eehh..slaughterer"! Kudos to both!
Don and Matt is the best Duo out there! Love you guys!
I love Don’s “I’ve been corrected” 😂😂
Extremely condescending tone from the caller. Like he’s lecturing children.
That's probably how he gets off?
Bingo! That’s what always irked me, even before I was an atheist. It’s so obviously slimy, 🤢.
Basically Christian morality:
"God's might makes anything at all he does right, even if it's bad or petty or cruel or murderous. Now grovel before him and submit to us, or die!"
@@motaman8074 👌🏽
Don has always been so chilled
Dons grins are always well placed. If I were to watch a video of a caller on mute, I could just watch Don's face for indication of every time they make an absurd assertion/question/rebuttal.
If a god wrote our morals on our hearts, then why is that moral code ( at least somewhat) different for every individual?
Exactly what I said. If God wrote his code in our heart then y ppl have different codes
Not to mention those that haven't even heard of the dude, was he busy that day?
Particularly, why is it seemingly different for each Christian?
And what is the result of a heart transplant on that person's morality?
And what of sociopaths? Plenty of sociopaths have never broken their personal moral codes in their lives.
"Have you ever broken that code?"
Ray Comfort flashbacks.
I'm thinking of starting a new religion - The Church of The Banana Split. I'm wondering if Ray Comfort would be it's prophet.
@@duncanbryson1167 Well.. whether or not he will isn't the real question, but rather.. how long we'll have to wait, until he finally chocks on that banana split, lol!! 😁😂😂
@@duncanbryson1167 if we get banana chips, then count me in
Whenever you’re confronted with such questions, ask them if they have ever told a truth?
Anytime someone starts with “I’m gonna take you down a path...”, oh dear 🤦♀️
I love when they squirm around and try to avoid answering the question
No one's ever brought this up before:
"If the Bible is true then the Bible is true!"
FACEPALM
IF my mother in law had two wheels, she would've been a bike. *sigh*
@@AquaPeet You saw that video too?
Sounds like a pastor trying to preach to his doubtful flock.
it works for people that already believe.. unfortunately. Safely push away any doubt before actually thinking about it.
"Hold on,Hold on,let's disregard every evil thing and let's only focus on the shiny things"
“Hold on! Hold on! Let’s ignore how you just demonstrated that my argument is nonsense so that I can keep talking!”
😂😂😂
turns out it WASN'T something that has never been discussed on the show.........imagine my shock Lol
You’re telling me THIS was clickbait?! No...
That was sarcastic btw
Matt: the bible says slavery is okay
Andrew: lets focus on our covenant
The Bible also says to treat your slaves like your brothers. Read Philemon.
@@theboombody buy, sell, separate from family or force to create one, enherent and beat to near-death, as you surely often do with brothers.
Why focus on the New Testament covenant? First, because Jesus is quoted that nothing changed in the Laws, not one dot or tiddle. Second, no where is there anywhere in the bible where Jesus denies slavery. The only person who even mentions slavery is Paul, who never met the actual Jesus, but a vision of him and he also doesn't claim slavery is wrong, just that slaves should serve their masters like they should serve God.
You gotta love those humble christians, they have no idea that they are arrogant airheads, and never will.
@ 8:25 you hear another voice say "correct" before the caller does. Basically being coached and tag teaming while being dishonest about it
I actually enjoyed this call. Matt kept his cool and really forced Andrew to deconstruct his own bullshit in real time. Of course Andrew ended up tongue-tied but it was a good example.
Yap
His patience was refreshing
I love Don Baker. Will always check in when I see him. So clear and intelligent. Also he is so compassionate with Christians Which is difficult. Matt gets a little edgy. Just saying. I don't blame him. Don is so at peace.
maybe don has in him or even is the savior
hail don our righteous savior
Every time I hear one of those "God has written his moral code on our hearts" people, I just want to say that they WOULD have a point if the code was the same for all of us, but it blatantly isn't.
Yeah, and since psychopathy exists (condition you get born with) it also completely debunks it.
Hey! I've got something you've never experienced before. I'm going to beg the question endlessly and smuggle my conclusions into my premises. Revolutionary, no?
Why would any God give a person a set of moral codes that he himself doesn't believe in? If those morals are so valuable to him I would like to believe he would follow them himself Otherwise punishing humanity for them makes absolutely no sense
It makes sense as a power structure. It happens all the time in dictatorships and abusive relationships, "It is wrong if you do it, but its okay if I do it," because the person who makes that statement doesn't have anyone to report to while the person they are talking to has to report to them.
In case you haven't noticed, the god that most christians worship has some major psychopathic and sociopathic traits. What kind of benevolent god who loves all his children would make a world with so many clues supporting evolution and then send anyone who doesn't believe in him to an eternity of torment? The only thing approaching a sensible conclusion is that in the unlikely event that god exists almost everybody has the details wrong.
As Matt once said "Murder is immoral because god said so or god said so because murder is immoral? If the first one is true, then morality is subjective, if the second is true, then you have a useless god, i could arrive to the same conclusion without it"
@@Alientcp Also, people knew murder was bad before God ever told anyone not to do it. God never told Caine, but he still hid and denied it. God never told Moses before he killed the Egyptian man but he stilled tried to hide the body in sand. In fact, the bible wasn't even written until 600 BC, so according to biblical chronograph, God didn't tell people anything for nearly 4000 years and someone society survived without him and came to the same conclusions without him.
@LuthAMF If anyone cared about you it would be sad to see how easily your fragile feelings are hurt when people criticize your imaginary friend.
INVISIBLE MASS SLAUGHTER:: sounds like the name of an awesome new death metal band
@Scott Heslin hence the "invisible" part?
I love how the caller was going down the line that dons death would be inconsequential if he was able to be revived. Pretty much shows that jesus' death for our sins didnt mean shit because hes up in heaven at gods side 😅
"Disingenuous" is a clever word choice.
I love the “old covenant” argument.. Why would a “perfect” “god” need to make multiple covenants? Why not make it right the first time? Did they make a mistake? >.> lol
I like to ask them if they believe god to be perfect, then how could he create anything that is not perfect? That act alone would make him imperfect. That's like a law abiding citizen making some meth, once he does that he is no longer law abiding.
Excelente comentario.
Cabby God made a perfect world and at some point an Angel was expelled from Heaven to earth and then he corrupted the weaker side of humanity (the woman). This was the start of the Old Covenant. It wasn't that the Old Covenant wasn't perfect, it was imperfect man that COULD NOT keep it.
Think about it Adam and the woman had ONLY ONE "DO NOT" command and she did the DO and failed miserably with the NOT.
If you want a model of perfection look at the solar system over 6,000 years old and still everything within it works perfectly no planets have crashed into us they are in the same orbits they always have been as well as their moons stars still glisten for us to enjoy and none have crashed in us either.
God created perfection and the gift of his free will messed it up.
God's desire that NONE perish is why he made the New Covenant as the Old Covenant was impossible for man to keep but the New Covenant is far more attainable.
@@joecoolioness6399 Read what I wrote to Cabby.
@@darinb.3273 buddy, there’s so much wrong with what you typed. I kind of want to screenshot this when I feel dumb.
Always "one more statement" and "let me finish" without addressing criticisms along the way.
Church of Infinite Knowledge Yeah, this guy is totally reading a script.
cant get off the script
We are absolutely positively sure you are going round and round and round and all those words are digging you deeper and deeper
Andrew has this preconceived garden path he just cant wait to lead them down. Such a clever man!
Ah, the scripted caller. Yawn.
@Barthelemy 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Aging Ophelia Let’s be honest, what Christian doesn’t use copy pasted half understood BS?
Yeah... He actually had something interesting going on at the beginning... But then, he lost his nerve and just had to bring in the Bible. At which point, his entire premise collapsed!
Not sure when mainstream Theists are gonna get it but, Every Time you bring the Bible into a debate, expect to lose a sizable chunk of your audience.
This ancient, man made, bronze aged text, simply won't cut it these days with free thinking, rationally minded Human Beings! If you Really want to hone your arguments, try and do so WITHOUT the Bible... I dare you!
@Barthelemy friend
It isn't god that exists instead of you.
Quit ego tripping
@Barthelemy "Quit ego tripping"
You'd know all about that, wouldn't you, Chrissy?
"Why do I have to ask for forgiveness from Invisible mass murderer???"... so on point 👏👏👏👏
Oh my gosh, about 17:01 when Don says he stands corrected ("murderer" -> "slaughterer")? I think the term for my reaction is "guffaw" 🤣
Exactly, this PSYCHO God committed more killing in this Bible than anyone..
He's the WICKED one because the devil, lucifer and satan don't have shit on him..
To hell with the WICKED being...
Go Don!
Just now realised, that some ancient chinese dude takes credits for my moral code.
Confucius - 'Don't do unto others what you don't want done unto you.'
What's funny is the golden rule is pretty much in all religions and societies. Just like almost all xian stuff, it is not unique to them.
"I stand corrected", Don killed me with that one.
"Why do I need forgiveness from an invisible Mass Murder?"
Damn, Don. You set the poor caller on literal fire.
You can definitely tell he was married to a Catholic. Don's my inner ex-Catholic given a megaphone.
I loved the kid's startled reaction to this! It totally threw him off script.
He didn't notice the flames; he immediately tried to quote mine to Don's face.
You are using her term " literal" incorrectly. If Andrew was on literal fire he'd be screaming into the phone.
@@thomasmills339 literal illiteracy ftw
When a caller says “we’re going to go down a path” Stop him in his tracks, he just wants to preach his stupid annoying gospel…
It's so adorable that these callers think they have any case whatsoever.
I love Don. My favorite host. Hope he's well and living his best life.
"I stand corrected" 😂 Don is the sweetest OG member of the AC.
It just boggles the mind how twisted theist thinking is .
I`m trying to get used to it, although it`s hard .................
@@arthousefilms Church MONEY .................
It's mind bottling, like your thoughts are trapped in a bottle - blades of glory
"Theist thinking" is an oxymoron. :p
@@FourDeuce01 So true ....... lol .
Religion starts to form when lies repeated over generations start to seem true to the fools.
This was a particularly good one. For something that's never been discussed on the show before, this clip touches on many of the problems of Christianity.
Matt : Andrew, did god kill people?
Andrew : Yesterday when I was shopping cherries....
Matt : That's a yes/no question Andrew!
Andrew : Uhhh my foreskin is sore....!
Matt : Andrew?
Andrew : Let's stay focused!
His poor foreskin.
Don - "I stand corrected (smiles)".
He he he he.
I was hoping someone would comment on this. It's at 16:55. That was an awesome delivery - he said it so sadly. Very funny.
this is why I come to the comments
Don dunked on him so hard. 🤣🤣
He fell to pieces when he went off script.
30 seconds in, pop, out comes Ray Comfort
I told someone on another comment thread that they were coming across like Ray Comfort and they took it as a compliment.
"There's some force inside of you."
"You mean... empathy...?"
Lol
Love Don's laughter "If we don't repent we are going to get tortured Ha ha Ha ha Ha ha".
That "yep, I stand corrected" fucking killed me. Well played, Don.
Poor Andrew , he was convinced that this was going to be a great victory for Christianity , but he omitted something from his master plan - a man called Matt !
I love listening to Matt and his way of cutting thru the garbage of these "points". My absolute favorite thing is watching Don just shake his head in silence.
Don is as useful as a chocolate tea pot
You only need one moral code, Andrew, treat others how you want to be treated.
That's it mate!
Well, what if I am a masochist?
Then it became akward.
Don lol
“I stand corrected” haha brilliant
It’s great to see don again. His laughter is pure gold.
Trying to use one of the most immoral set of books as a moral guide? Really?
His argument brought to its simplest terms. We have morals therefore god. Looking at the religious right now in the United States. I do not want their morality.
He’s so cheerful. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him get frustrated like some other hosts.
God does not listen to the unbelievers prayers. Because they do not love God first forever today.
Even Christ Jesus told people there going to burn in hell forever and ever. Because they don't love God first forever today.
God/Christ Jesus is going to throw you into hell to burn forever and ever. Because you do not love God first.
LOVE GOD FIRST FOREVER TODAY. OR GOD THROWS YOU INTO HELL TO BURN FOREVER AND EVER. AND THE DEMONS IN HELL WILL TORMENT YOU FOREVER AND EVER. BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T LOVE GOD FIRST FOREVER TODAY.
God made the big bang. And God made evolution. Love God first forever today. Or God throws you into hell to burn forever and ever. Love Christ Jesus first today because he was God in the flesh. It's 3 in one with the holy spirit. Love God first to.
Love God first forever today. Or God throws you into hell to burn forever and ever. And the demons in hell will torment you forever and ever. Because you didn't love God first. Love God first forever today. Or God throws you into hell to burn forever and ever. Love God first forever. Christ Jesus is God.
God made the big bang that you atheists love so much. And God made evolution that you atheists love so much. You atheists love denying it.
God has no love for those who die an atheist. God has no love for those who die loving porn more than God. You do not understand that God is a Jealous God. Love God first forever today.
There is evidence for God. But you stupid idiots never looked for the evidence of God because you want to burn in hell forever and ever. Love God first forever today so you don’t burn in hell forever and ever.
The evidence that proves God to be real. That you never looked for. You can test the evidence for God out you’re self like I did. Do this at you’re own risk.
1 Spirit box and wonder box proves demons. To be real. And it proves. Bible to be real. Because you can talk to them and they tell you they are a demon. Demons are from the creation of God. Because God allowed demons to be born from his creation. A demon is a hideously ugly evil spirit that lives forever with a spiritual body that was born from a immortal angel mating with a human women. The result a ugly demon is born. You see God didn’t make demons. God allowed demons to be born.
And God makes the demons work in hell to torment and hurt everyone in hell because they did not love God first on earth. Love God first forever so you don’t burn in hell forever and ever. Love God first forever so you aren’t tormented and hurt by demons in hell forever and ever.
2 The eye witnesses that have seen demons saw they have huge wings. Just like the bible says angels have wings and demons also have wings. And when you talk to the demons with spirit box they know you’re name because the demon has been watching you. The spirit box machine is true evidence for God being real. Because with the spirit box machine you can talk to ugly immortal demons that know God. But the demons still do not like God. Because God doesn’t love demons. God hates demons. Meaning demons hate on God with the spirit box machine that sucks there but whatever. The spirit box machine still proves God to be real. Because demons inherited their immortality from God. And the demons know it.
With spirit box machine in a room alone you can test it out you’re self and you will hear and see that demons are real because they know you’re name. And the demons know the color of your shirt. It’s because the demons are watching you. The spirit box has a mic for the demons to talk to you with it and for you to hear them from the spirit box.
And even when humans see demons when they wake up for 1 second. Or for 10 seconds they see the demons staring at them when they wake up for 5 or 10 minutes. The stupid human doesn’t want to believe in demons. Because the stupid human wants to burn in hell for all of eternity.
You see people have seen demons and people have heard demons telling them there going to burn in hell forever. But the stupid human thinks it’s just their mind. Mentally retarded human wants to burn in hell for all of eternity. I’ve heard idiot doctors saying when people see demons it’s just their mind. Stupid doctors demons have been proven to be real. I’ve proved demons to be real many times before. And others have proven demons to be real to. Stupid doctors, stupid nurses and stupid therapists make people burn in hell for all of eternity. With their medical garbage against God. But it’s okay because God throws everyone into hell that does not love God first forever to burn for all of eternity.
3 And the many rare gifted humans. That have the gifts from the Bible to understand spirits. Gifts sometimes have bad side effects. The side effects from these gifts can be awfull sometimes. To understand spirits means to hear them. Some gifted people can hear demons talking about them and demons talking to them. The demons constantly make fun of the stupid human. Saying you’re going to burn in hell in forever. You see the gifted humans hear demons warning them about hell. But the stupid human still doesn’t believe in hell. It’s because most people burn in hell for all of eternity. Meaning even when humans hear demons warning them about hell. They still burn in hell forever. Because they didn’t love God first forever.
4 There’s even cursed houses to prove God is real. The names of God. Like Christ Jesus. And Tetragramaton can make a place not haunted for a while. But the demons come back to haunt the place because it’s just the way demons are. And the names of God work in exorcisms to make a demon leave a possessed person. Exorcism are rare. And you can tell when an idiot is faking to possessed by demon. In real exorcism things start to levitate in the room. In real exorcism the possessed person starts insulting the exorcist in a language they never learned. Because the demons inside the person are talking in a different language.
5 And God has shown himself to people before more than once. Even the demons know about God but the demons still didn’t want God. The demons wanted to please themselves not God. And now the demons are going to be thrown into hell because they didn’t want God first forever. And because you don’t love God first forever. You also burn in hell forever because you don’t love God first forever.
6 Another evidence for God being real. And for demons being real. Demons have shown themselves to people before. When a person sees a floating spirit going throw walls the person thinks. Maybe I’ll die and be a ghost to. Wrong. The demon has succeed in making you burn in hell for all of eternity. When you start thinking you die and come back as a ghost the demon has fooled you into not wanting God and the demon is making you burn in hell forever because it’s a stupid human. That needs to love God first forever.
7 When a demon gives a living human memories of a dead person. The stupid human thinks I have memories of a dead person. It must be my past life. Wrong. A demon gave you those memories because the demon wants to make the stupid human burn in hell for all of eternity. And it works the demon is very successful in this method.
8 When a demon shows it self to someone as Christ Jesus. And says the huge lie of all religions go to heaven. You suck at lying you demon spawn. Only few people go to heaven. Most people burn in hell forever.
The demon likes to make stupid humans burn in hell for all eternity. Because the demon is going to be a tormenter in hell. You see the demon is using hell from God. Because the demons are scared of being in hell. The demon is scared of hell that’s why the demons wants alot of toys in hell with him. To have fun beating stupid humans in hell forever and ever.
9 cursed objects from demons and the bad side effects are not pretty. Side effects are
A lot of nightmares. I tested the nightmares from cursed object on myself. It’s true. Other bad side effects also occur with cursed object.
10 Every body knows who God is on judgment day from God. Because the name of God is known. And used in exorcisms. And God has one hole in his left and right palm. And one hole in his right and left foot. Because God let himself be put on a cross. To show that there is no greater love than him God in the flesh. Everybody knows who God is on judgment day. Everybody begs for mercy on judgment day with their faces to the floor. And the giant God still throws most humans into hell because they did not love God first. Love God first forever because God was Christ Jesus in flesh. It’s 3 in one with the holy spirit.
Love God first forever today or God throws you into hell to burn forever and ever. With the demons to torment you forever and ever in hell. Because you didn't love God first forever today.
11 I’ve read the awfull flawed arguments for lizard people being real and it’s very fake. The flawed lizard people arguments is atheist and stupid. It’s demon spawn cursing humans with illusions to mess up humans sight so the stupid human burns in hell forever. Well done demon spawn you proved God to be real by using your demon magic on a human. And you proved hell to be real well done demon.
12 Making a deal with a demon makes you burn in hell for all of eternity.
13 Demons messing with humans trying to make humans burn in hell for all of eternity. With the demon showing humans green numbers on their eyes to make the human think there in a computer. And the demon is successful in this because the demon makes people burn in hell forever like this. Love God first forever so you don’t burn in hell forever.
Love God first forever today or God throws you into hell to burn forever and ever. With the demons to torment you forever and ever in hell. Because you didn't love God first forever today.
God made the big bang atheists love denying it TL;DR
@@godchristmadethebigbangand2834 I don't appreciate being threatened with eternal suffering
@@SW8451AnnotInterview Then love God first today forever. Or God throws you into hell to burn forever and ever. With the demons to torment you in hell forever. Because you did not love God first today forever.
I feel like I’ve heard Matt argue with too many Andrews Over the years. Is this a thing.
Are they the male Karens or something?