Duuuude ... probably the BEST lens review I've ever seen. I enjoyed the level of detail and format of the fluid presentation. Excellent work! You got a new subscriber :)
@@sh4rkhappy Yes, the 24-200 offers great range, definitely a lens that can handle most situations. I had one and sold it to get the 24-120 F4. I felt the 24-200 was giving up a bit more sharpness than I wanted, but it is an excellent lens for a superzoom.
I have this on my Z5 and it’s been great! I shot a party last week and it did everything I needed it too. Lightweight, good focal range, constant 2.8, definitely should consider it!
Agree too. I also considering this lens and the 24-120mm.but I ended up with 24-120 longer zoom range, better sharpness and cheaper. if I need faster lens I use my prime lens instead.
Excellent research in the video! Thanks for putting out all the important information about the lens. I have made my decision I’ll be going for 28-75 over 24-70.
Thank you Christopher, that was very useful. I think the lens would make a decent portrait optic, where corner sharpness and vignetting is not a great problem, and may, in some instances, be advantageous.
I am both happy and impressed that you got this lens in so quickly! I'm very interested in this lens as a more affordable alternative to the 24-70 f/2.8. I am hoping that the Z mount opens up to the current Tamron and Sigma options.
Not a chance to happen in the next 1-2 years with all these manufacturing issues and component shortages... They won't be better than the originals anyway. The manual faster lenses of Mitakon & 7Artisans are great even on manual focus :P
@@Hornwiesel Yeah, better value is the real "ask" here. I'm not optimistic that we'll have those options within a year or so, but I bet they'll come none the less. And this lens' performance, build and external controls don't warrant the price. The best thing about Sigma and Tamron's offerings is that they meet or exceed the build and optical quality, plus offer different levels of control, i.e., more external buttons and switches. $1200 US is higher than a cat's back for what you get in this case. That applies to all manufacturers, not just Nikon. Had they priced it down there with the Tamron or Sigma, that would be a different story.
For whatever reason Nikon chose to use the first version of Tamron 28-75 and not the G2. I personally use Sigma 28-70 with ZTE adapter, which is better optically and smaller/lighter lens.
In my view 28-75 and 24-200 make a better choice. You cover common indoor and outdoor shooting situations. The 24-120 is neither here nor there, slow for indoors and short for outdoors.
@@ElementaryWatson-123 if you want indoor shooting then I would skip the 28-75 and get a prime. Better image quality, just use your feet to move. The primes will outperform and have better bokeh. This is a bad lens on Nikons terms. They just want to sell a "2.8" std zoom to "please" people. But I would still pick the 24-120 over this for outdoors all day. Prime+ 24-200 or Prime + 24-120.
@@coltoncyr2283 I already have 24/1.8 and 35/1.8 primes. But 2.8 zoom is often sufficient when shooting indoors. And you can't understate the importance of zoom flexibility. The problem with 24-120/4 as I mentioned is that its use cases are very limited, it's neither good for indoors because it's slow nor outdoors, because it's short. Which means you still need faster zoom and longer zoom, in which case 24-120/4 becomes redundant.
Thank you for providing this. I shoot video primarily and photos second. I've been shooting with a Nikkor Z 35mm f/1.8 S prime as well as the Nikkor Z 85mm f/1.8 S prime lenses, but I want to reduce the amount of gear I have for a minimalist setup. I don't like swapping out lenses all the time so I think a zoom lens instead of prime is going to serve me better. I'll be looking to buy this 28-75mm lens as the replacement to my two prime lenses (unless you have a better recommendation for me). I shoot tech videos on RUclips just for context, and I pretty much only shoot indoors.
Hi Christopher. Fascinating video. I am trying to choose between Z 24-70 and Z 28-75 lenses. Big price difference! Someone suggested 28-75 (non S-Line) cannot track as well as 24-70 (S-Line). Do you agree?
Regarding the Tamron / Nikon debate: The lens is a Tamron design, licensed by Nikon, manufactured by Tamron, packaged in a Tamron-style box. It's likely some of the coatings and the firmware are different, as well as, of course, the exterior. 70-80% of Tamron's manufacturing output go towards lenses of other brands, there are plenty of Tamron lenses out there under other names, and noone even bats an eye. This is just a more overt example of rebranding than most.
I've selled my 24-70mm f/2.8 and my 24-200mm f/4-6.3 and bought this one and the 24-120mm. One for video, landscape and travel and the over one for wedding and event. I am very happy with that decision, because this combo is even better than my old one and I get the two new lenses for the same money I've sold the "old" ones.
@@indianweddingcinematic-sin9447 The 28-75mm. I don't need the sharpest corners for portraits, but I want the shallower depth of field. AF is quick and it's very lightweight. But I use a 70-200mm f/2.8 on a second body.
I'm thinking of doing the same..i love the 24-70 f2.8 but would rather have the option of 24-120 for landscape and travel while keeping 28-75 for indoor/events!
@@indianweddingcinematic-sin9447 On the Z9, the 28-75 give me around 95% performance of the 24-70 for photo-work. For video I can't see any difference. AF is fast and on point, sharpness is on the same level but dang, this thing is so much lighter. Especially for gimbal work, you can feel the difference. I would say the two things, the 28-75 is "most worse" against the 24-70 is vignetting and corner sharpness, but both could be very pleasing for wedding, depends on your shooting/photo style. And you've seen the video, this is a Z-lens.... it's damn good ;)
@@jukeboxjohnnie Well... with the R5 canon ships it with the 24-105 f4, so I was thinking that would be the comparable. The cost of a 24-70 + Z8 would be in the 8-9k range.
I think Nikon probably limited the close up distance over the Tamron original G1 version. And Nikon also probably added their own coatings which explains the better contrast.
The price is what makes this lens such a dilemma. I remember when $1,200 could *almost* get you a top of the line 24-70 2.8. This really belongs at somewhere between $600-800 for the build quality and image quality. This continues to be my disappointment with mirrorless systems across the board; because they are engineering new mounts and even in some cases new lens designs, they are charging premiums on every lens they produce whether it boasts quality to match the price or not. All it serves to do is keep me happy with my DSLR's and looking to third parties for lenses.
the only reasonable lens like that is the Sigma 24-70 2.8 DG DN which is fantastic value for money (top of the line 24-70 2.8 for $1100 or so) but i generally agree, although the mirrorless lenses are typically very good quality they usually cost far too much
i remember when manufacturers started switching to Mirrorless system and released new mount with mini flange distance they said new mount will help them to make lenses more affordable. reality is completely opposite lol.
Have to agree, the prices are the big problem with mirrorless. This one, the price is just far too high IMO to consider a purchase. I think most buyers have expectations, and the cost of lenses has gone far beyond sensible. It is of course possible to adapt lenses, and that might be the better option. Building a native MILC system ground up, would cost a small fortune. Too many good deals on SLR mount gear, to not consider that.
Nice lense, but it would be much better and easier if Nikon just allowed third party lenses and invited Tamron and Sigma to Z mount. Newest Tamron 28-75 F2.8 seems better than this one. And it would allow Nikon to focus their efforts on more exotic lenses, and leave such zooms to third party
As a Canon user, it's interesting to see what Nikon is doing, but the quality doesn't convince me. I would tend to save up and buy the more expensive 24-70 2.8 S :)
Just like Canon also has very good, very expensive and heavy L line lenses, and then they have low quality variable aperture lenses, not really anything in between. In some way Nikon is providing an in-between step by producing low quality third party lenses like this one, that sit right between. This doesn't compete with their own 24-70 f/2.8, they don't want that (and why they likely didn't want the better G2 version) but it does provide a way for certain people to move to Z mount and having a fast constant aperture lens without breaking the bank, something Canon doesn't offer.
@@Eikenhorst trying to extract a mid range 50mm prime from Canon is like trying to get blood out of a stone! I know there is a f1.4 on the horizon but I think it's going to be an expensive L lens. A high quality f1.8 would be nice.
I stand corrected, they did end up offering the Tamron G2 version, even under Tamron's own brand, instead of just copying their design and slab their logo on it and charge a premium for that.... Not sure they sell any of these 'native' Nikon lenses in 2024 anymore
just got me that lens since I need 2.8 for my concert photography (at least!), and the 24-70 is ridiculously expensive for a lens that probably will get a beer bath ;)
Hi Chris, great reviews. I am moving over from Canon to Nikon for my first mirrorless as a Pro stills photographer. My canon 24-70 f2.8 has been indispensable, but now I am trying to work out which Nikon lens would be as good, as there is the 24-70 f2.8 S, 28-75 f2.8 or the 24-70 f4S. Im guessing for best image quality and sharpness it would be the 24-70 f2.8 S for the best possible work horse?
Looks like the 24-120 f4S is the better lens in image quality. They aren't called S line for nothing i guess. My guess with this 28-75, same optical assembly as the Tamron but nikon is using their own coatings. Yes it's expensive, but you are paying for guaranteed support and peace of mind. No compatibility issues will arise from future firmware updates to a camera body.
Great review as always. I just have a niggling thought about your LOCA analyses: wouldn't you need to show a scene that includes blurred OOF text at each aperture to assess the colour shifts? You tend to use a view that only shows OOF areas at wide apertures, so when you stop down, inevitably the LOCA goes away. But if you shot a 1m long ruler or something from close up, such that only say 10cm is in focus to start, then some areas would still be OOF when stopped down, and might still show LOCA?
Not really. The wide open example shows the most extreme case of LoCA. As you stop down it either goes away completley or becomes less apparent. As long as you know the worst case all other apertures will be better
FYI, the 28-75 is actualy cheaper than the 24-120, by a margin of 200€, and is availlable for buying. The 24-120 is still nowhere to be found in stores, even tough it came on the market last december. :/
The focus seems alot faster than older Nikon Z lenses? Is it because of a firmware update on your Z7 or are the new lenses just faster? Hope you have time to respond :)
I am getting this lens over 24-70 f4. Better bokeh of 2.8 is my priority (24-70 2.8 is too pricey for my use). I agree that the corners are soft, but for portraits it's irrelevant and for landscapes you step down to 5.6 or higher anyway. On top of that you get a twice faster lens than 24-120 or 24-70 f4, and it's quite light in terms of weight too.
I purchased the 24-70 F/4 as a kit lens which puts me in an odd position. I have a bunch of 1.8 primes in-between and I was counting on this lens to justify my purchase of it, but for a zoom lens I want to use it for everything and I want it lightweight. This one seems more suitable for subjects and less so for landscapes. That leaves me with the sharper extra 50mm of length 24-120 F/4 which is better for subjects but less flexible indoors when lighting becomes a challenge... I may just hang on to my 24-70 F4 for a while longer until I see a sale or refurb of the 2.8 in a better price range since I have the range covered with primes anyway. 🤔
In Poland, the Nikon 28-75 costs $ 1,200, and the Nkon 24-120 costs $ 1,450. It seems to me that compared to the tamron 28-75 the image in the center seems much sharper at any focal length and the aberrations appear smaller. But that's my opinion
Fine Review, Chris! It was obvious before, that Nikon could have had finetuned the G1 Tamron 28-75/2.8 Design (E-Mount) but also, that the corner performance wouldn't being drastically improved. So why should Nikon Z Mount Users buy a old-tech Tamron Design, when the Sony E-Mount G2 Design is being 1) way cheaper and 2) improved anyway ?! Famous YT'ber Richard Wong reviewed the G1 vs G2 Tamron, and conclusion was: G2 is already at F2.8 open aperture the same sharpness into the corners, as the old G1 stopped down to F8! phew - that's a blow for the old G1 design. And it was obvious too, that after all, the new Nikon 24-120 F4 Z would being a winner - the older F-Mount 24-120 F4 VR is no slouch, but there are things which could being improved - and the new Z Mount version delivered now. Great job, Nikon ! Nikon Users can use basically the way cheap (but great) 24-70 F4 Z, or the newer 24-120 F4 Z Mount now. No need for this Tamron 28-75/2.8 Z into Nikon Design, basically :)
The 24-120 is really impressively sharp (for a zoom lens). At 24mm wide open it is actually sharper than the Z24mm f1.8 prime stopped down to f4. And it stays sharper while stopping down both lenses
Good points but everyone needs to remember, the 24-120 is an ‘S’ branded lens, so it should perform better. I think Nikon ‘dropped the ball’ on this 28-75 lens; It is available and at much reduced prices. One can get it at the Nikon Refurbished store for a little over $600 USD. Do keep in kind, having the constant F2.8 aperture is a big deal. Twice the light as an F4.0 lens. I think the 28-75 has its place, where the faster aperture, lighter weight, and lack of focus breathing, is an asset. Nikon’s pricing is a strange phenomenon, as the 24-120 is so close in price to the 24-70 F4.0? Yes, when bought as a kit, the 24-70 F4.0 is the better bargain. It is lighter, more compact, but the 24-120 is obviously the way to go, if buying the lens outright. As always, YMMV. Peace
@@georgedavall9449 nikon pricing of the 24-70 F4 is a trick to sell more lens+body kit. Basically they sell it in kit for the price it is worth and sell it alone for an insane amount so people buying it in kit think their getting it for a good price.
05:40 flower photo and 05:47 "very strong out-of-focus points of light do see a little outlining" Chris said. Well, I think of a Tamron G1 lens which has such issues on its bokeh. So, can we just say this lens is a Tamron G1 lens with some amendments adapted for Z-mount system?
Many thanks for the amazingly timely review. I have to say I'm quite disappointed by this lens. When it's more expensive than the Tamron G2, I expect better performance, but clearly from the corner sharpness it's pretty much the same as the G1. I got my hands on a used z7 not long ago and I'm in need of a z mount standard zoom. I am going to take your advice and get the 24-120 z despite the fact that I really want a 2.8. I guess I'll just wait for Tamron to release z mount version of the 28-75 G2.
Well Nikon mount is quite large and I am guessing the manufacturer needs to make larger optics to make it work with the larger mount and hence the higher price tag. I am wondering how much better is this lens compared to Tamron. Also note that Chris expects the best of the best. So i am pretty sure this lens is not as bad. I have seen some sample portrait pictures at DPReview and the pictures from this lens looks stunning. For me if I had to choose between this or the 24-70 F4, I rather get this f2.8 lens. This allows for more light, lower iso and faster shutter speed. I trade that over higher ISO anytime.
@@mpgnz73You're drinking too much Flavor Aid. It renders a bit differently on a Nikon camera because Nikon cameras have different biases than Sony cameras. It's the G1 with a Z mount. It has the same optical design as the G1 but Nikon charges more because Nikon. I paid the Nikon tax for many years and was happy to do so. Now I'm happy I don't have to.
@@mlai2546 It's the G1, the published optical design is identical. A larger mount does not require larger optics, the required image circle and the lens aperture determine that. The difference is that Nikon cameras process images differently to Sony cameras so the same lens on a Nikon will result in slightly different images to a Sony. The biggest difference is that there's a big Nikon tax on the Nikon version which means the much improved G2 is cheaper on Sony than the G1 is on Nikon.
Thank you for all your videos. They offer the exact information one needs, I always look at them before buying. I wonder if you would still advice the 24-120 f4 now the price difference has flipped )at least where I am, the 2.8 is actually 150 dolars cheaper). Cheers!
I purchased the F/4 awhile ago. Got an email of a refurbished 28-70mm for $650 and revisited this video and the Matt Irwin video and decided that I will skip buying this one again. I think it would be good for portraiture the corner sharpness at 2.8 will have you using the lens at F/4 to 5.6 without the extra 49mm of range on the much sharper 24-120mm F/4.
Thanks for an informative video. I am a z6 user. In your opinion, What I may miss switching from 24-70 4s (kit lens) to this 28-75 f2.8. Pls let me know your views. Thanks
Hey, I own an old Tamron 24-70mm f2.8 G2 which is mounted to a Nikon Z6 using the FTZ adapter. It works fine and is my current workhorse, but now I feel it's quite heavy for a mirrorless, especially with that adapter. So I'm trying to find a replacement. I'm torn between 24-120 and this 28-75. I know that the 24-120 is a better performer, but honestly I'm leaning toward the 28-75 due to the f2.8 as I often shoot in lowlight. The question is, will this becomes an upgrade or downgrade in terms of AF and sharpness compared to my Tamron? Or should I stick to my Tamron until I can afford the mighty 24-70 f2.8 S 😅? Hope this will reach some people who can answer my dilemma. Note: the 28-75 f2.8 is around US$ 120 cheaper than the 24-120 in my country.
Thanks as always for your good videos. How did sharpness compare with the Z 24-120? I don’t do many events so probably don’t need the f/2.8. Maybe putting it in a Z6 with its high ISO performance would compensate for the slower aperture.
@@MB-dq2gz I commented before his conclusion and I’d watched that video too. That’s my impression too. The 24-120 is better overall. I just wish my store had one for me.
unfortunately this lens is much cheaper than the f4 24-120 z. So please - where and when was the latter one ever cheaper than the one you reviewed here ?
In all honesty, this is one lens that I don't understand it's place in nikon lineup. There is affordable 24-70 f4, there is great 24-70 2.8s and there is also a fantastic 24-120 f4. Well, nikon knows their reason but for me this lens makes no sense.
I've been actually waiting for this lens. A nice bokeh of 2.8 is my priority and I didn't want to shell out 2k for 24-70 2.8. Yes, the corners are soft, but for portraits it's irrelevant and for landscapes you step down to 5.6 or higher anyway. On top of that you get a twice faster lens than 24-120 or 24-70 f4.
@Man in Dandism Not really. I've been photographing for years (had D800 since it came out in 2012/13) and I always prioritized fast lenses. The only lens above 2.8 was ultra wide or 300mm prime. I shoot wide open most of the time, be it wildlife or my kids, as I mainly prioritize bokeh. I just bought 28-75 f2.8 and I can tell you that I have no complaints, center and mid are absolutely great (I don't need sharp corners in this lens). For landscape I will mainly use 14-30 f4. I don't think I would notice that 28-75 is any worse than 24-70 unless I pixel peep at around 100% which is not what I'm interested in.
So, just like the other two members of Nikon's "little trinity" (Z 17-28mm/2.8, Z 28-75mm/2.8, Z 75-180mm/2.8), you just "get what you pay for", and that's exactly what was to be expected from Nikon. If you want premium quality, in terms of material and build quality as well as optical performance, you'll have to pay the premium price and carry quite a bit of bulk around with you. I would just get the Z 24-120mm/4 as the daily "go to" lens and put either the Z 14-30mm/4 in my bag as an ultrawide or the Z 100-400mm/4.5-5.6 VR as a tele lens.
This is very interesting, I have always been a Nikon user, but I bought in to Fuji a couple of years ago. I am considering the Nikon Z system, but ironically the fuji 18-55 puts in a much better performance than this. No point paying for a 2.8 lens if you have to stop down. This lens is far too overpriced, as most of the Z lenses are. Hopefully, there will be some more independent lenses in the future.
28-75/2.8 is actually sharper at the center than 24-70/4, it only softer at the corners on the wide end. In practice, the corners are rarely of great importance. But you can't beat f/2.8, it's a must if you need to shoot indoors.
@@tamsaiming2003 it depends on what you are shooting. If you are in a museum then I would agree. If you have people or animals that move then I disagree. My subjects are mostly people, sometimes dogs, and I try to never go longer than 1/140 with any lens, any kind of image stabilization. So for my purposes f/2.8 is a must, I wish somebody would make 24-50/2 just for indoors people shooting.
Nikon Z 28-75mm f/2.8 lens not good with image quality, i personally experienced..Please check aperture points, before you buy as few points were missing.
So basically it's a Tamron 28-75 G1 rebadged Nikon ( Nikon badge causes a +50% cost increase ). Still, in order to justify it, some fanboys are claiming a special "coating" made from Nikon, yeah, sure. Do not get me started on the videos comparing them and highlighting "differences" in color, they are not even using the same camera for those tests.
Im happy that theres more options, but I think there could be some pretty big implications for Nikon repackaging a Tamron lens, none of which I am happy about. 1. Sigma might have a rougher time at supporting the mount. 2. Tamron might have agreed not to develop their own branded lenses for Nikon. Meaning we might not get their full range. Nikon may be picking a select set of Tamron lenses they will repackage. 3. Nikon slapping hundreds of extra dollars on the now old G1 Tamron lens isn't a good sign. 4. This dooms my hope for a top notch, external zoom 70-200 2.8 for Nikon. Canon has one, and Sony's new internal zoom one is slightly smaller but a lot lighter than typical. Nikon won't see any reason to develop a top notch COMPACT 70-200ish 2.8 competitor when they can just repackage the less than stellar Tamron 70-180 2.8. Don't tell me "just wait for a Nikon 70-200 f/4." That's not the same thing. Clearly Canon is capable of a compact 70-200 2.8 that sacrifices no image quality.
I'm a former Nikon shooter who moved from Nikon DSLRs to Sony mirrorless. Nikon make beautiful gear and I'm glad to see them doing great things with the Z9 that will trickle down to the less expensive models. The #1 reason I moved to Sony instead of Nikon for mirrorless? The excellent 3rd party lens selection. Sony owns a chunk of Tamron and is supportive of 3rd party makers on e mount. If you want 3rd party glass only one of the "big three" offers it. Come to the dark side!
@@IanHobday the thing that made me choose to stay with Nikon as I transition to mirrorless is the flange distance. With the shortest flange distance among the big 3, I can adapt Sony lenses, even with AF (not amazing AF), and there is no geometrical reason why there cannot be a RF to Z adapter. Potentially I could use any lens for any system on Nikon
@@PASquared Cross-brand adapters are fine as a stop-gap measure during a migration. They are a terrible long-term solution. If there is a single lens that you want to adapt then sure, that might be okay for some uses. More than that? Nope, not a good long term solution to poor lens selection, and I think you know that already.
@@PASquared Bottom line, if you want a good selection of 3rd party glass then Sony is the only game in town. I won't consider moving back to Nikon or Canon (which I used until 2008) until the 3rd party situation is equal. I doubt it will ever happen, unfortunately.
@@IanHobday At this point only the Tamron 70-180mm for E Mount, the Canon 28-70 f/2 and Canon 5.2mm VR dual fisheye are the lenses I feel are unmatched by Nikon's current lineup or roadmap, I'm definitely satisfied with the selection and quality of Nikon's other offerings
Affordable compared to the overpriced Nikon lenses, but this is the Gen 1 Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 with some Nikon's modifications. Nikon is audacious to ask US$1200 for this lens when the Gen 2 Tamron is only US$900. But I guess it will be justified by Nikon fans nevertheless.
I own the Tamron 28-75 2.8 on the F mount and was hoping that Nikon would open their mount for 3rd party to get the g2 lense ... I was happy when I heard that Nikon gonna offer a native lense themselves (and was expecting a better lense than Tamron ... Tamron makes great lenses but usually Nikon makes better ones) ... I'm not surprised that the nikon cost extra 200-300$ but DISAPPOINTED that its IQ is worse than the Tamron... Nikon announced many lenses and the Z9 in the past 15 month and exceeded its users expectations however this is a big miss 😢
I’ve paid quite less for my Nikon professional 80 to 200 mm f2,8, about 15 years ago, and five other fixed lenses. Looking at the ordinary results in the corners of this new plastic zoom I’m more than happy to have made the switch to Fujifilm. Great lenses, small bodies, nice colours and great ergonomics.
Lol just did the opposite switch and I love my Z6 compared to my xt2 which died from heavy rain. Iike the grip better and the ergonomic is great I think.
Nikon must have serious financial problems if they release a licensed version of an outdated Tamron lens. The G2 version is so much better in most regards, it's a shame that they couldn't use that version. I shoot Sony, but I really don't wanna see Nikon losing the race.
Nope, they don't. They just released their financial results last week. Just because a company releases a licensed product doesn't mean they are in financial troubles.
@@romanpul "Crucially then, how is Nikon performing in the DSLR and mirrorless segments? Overall, its sales have been dropping year on year, which is worrying in an expanding market. It blames this on parts shortages, but this is at a time when Canon is able to successfully expand its production, and while its longtime-rival accounts for 52% of the ILC market, Nikon has grabbed only 13%. It may try to squeeze as many positives out of the Z9 as it can, but as I’ve noted before, this will add little to its market share on a monthly production run of 3,500 units. In terms of the split between DSLR and mirrorless, we can only glean this by comparison to the BCN Awards (although note that Nikon’s financial year doesn’t match BCN’s calendar year); Nikon potentially dropped DSLR market share (at 33.9%) to some 750,000 units. That doesn’t match with its estimate of shipping 700,000 units this year, which suggests it’s doing worse than we might think. It is possible that it’s actually dropping market share in both DSLR and mirrorless sectors at the same time Canon appears to be gaining share." Source: petapixel.com/2022/02/05/is-nikon-caught-in-a-perfect-storm/
@@mrbaiser4133 Unit marketshare doesn‘t mean a lot if most of the units are lowend D3500 and D5600 with very little margin. And there market is not expanding but decreasing. And those are the units which are breaking away. Loosing units which don‘t generate profit doesn’t really matter. Sales are dropping for years now. Sony for example suspended production of most of their APS-C cameras in 2021 and their camera business generated a loss for the first time in years (unlike Nikon, who made a profit in the first three quarters and had to revise their forecast upwards twice already). And that article is just ridiculous clickbait. Petapixel has lost most of it‘s credibility for years now. If Nikon is doing so badly how come their stockvalue has increased by over 100% within the last year?
This is just the Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 Gen.1 for Sony E-Mount. What a joke, the Nikon 28-75mm 2.8 is even more expensive than the Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 plus adapter for Z Mount. Clearly a thumbs down for this Nikon lens.
It’s way better if Nikon rebranded the Tamron 28-75 G2 for the price, maybe Sony holds 12% of Tamron and stop Tamron doing that, anyway, I think Sony wins😆
Portraits and weddings 28-75 F2.8, landscapes and travel 24-120 f4
Duuuude ... probably the BEST lens review I've ever seen. I enjoyed the level of detail and format of the fluid presentation. Excellent work! You got a new subscriber :)
Phew! I'm happy I chose the 24-120 F4 over this lens as my main landscape workhorse. I was a bit torn about which way to go.
@Man in Dandism Lego landscapes?
24-200? wouldnt that be even better for landscape?
@@sh4rkhappy Yes, the 24-200 offers great range, definitely a lens that can handle most situations. I had one and sold it to get the 24-120 F4. I felt the 24-200 was giving up a bit more sharpness than I wanted, but it is an excellent lens for a superzoom.
That would be great on Z5. The softer corners will not stick out that much on a 24MP sensor and the overall price will be very good.
Who uses the corners? Most folks don't.
I have this on my Z5 and it’s been great! I shot a party last week and it did everything I needed it too. Lightweight, good focal range, constant 2.8, definitely should consider it!
Agree too. I also considering this lens and the 24-120mm.but I ended up with 24-120 longer zoom range, better sharpness and cheaper. if I need faster lens I use my prime lens instead.
Excellent research in the video! Thanks for putting out all the important information about the lens.
I have made my decision I’ll be going for 28-75 over 24-70.
dude this is the best review I have watch for this lens.... thanks, you make my day I just bought the lens
Thank you Christopher, that was very useful. I think the lens would make a decent portrait optic, where corner sharpness and vignetting is not a great problem, and may, in some instances, be advantageous.
I am both happy and impressed that you got this lens in so quickly! I'm very interested in this lens as a more affordable alternative to the 24-70 f/2.8. I am hoping that the Z mount opens up to the current Tamron and Sigma options.
Not a chance to happen in the next 1-2 years with all these manufacturing issues and component shortages... They won't be better than the originals anyway. The manual faster lenses of Mitakon & 7Artisans are great even on manual focus :P
@@dicekolev5360 But cheaper maybe.
@@Hornwiesel Yeah, better value is the real "ask" here. I'm not optimistic that we'll have those options within a year or so, but I bet they'll come none the less. And this lens' performance, build and external controls don't warrant the price. The best thing about Sigma and Tamron's offerings is that they meet or exceed the build and optical quality, plus offer different levels of control, i.e., more external buttons and switches. $1200 US is higher than a cat's back for what you get in this case. That applies to all manufacturers, not just Nikon. Had they priced it down there with the Tamron or Sigma, that would be a different story.
well, this lens is the Tamron G1, so you pay +50% for the rebadging.
For whatever reason Nikon chose to use the first version of Tamron 28-75 and not the G2. I personally use Sigma 28-70 with ZTE adapter, which is better optically and smaller/lighter lens.
Just got mine and couldn’t be happier. It’s currently £1400 cheaper than 24-70 2.8s so difficult not to be happy 😃 highly recommended
Thanks for helping make the decision on this and the 24-120mm f4 easy!
What did you choose
If you don’t need the f/2.8, I would go for the Nikon 24-120 f/4 S.
It's slightly sharper
agree
In my view 28-75 and 24-200 make a better choice. You cover common indoor and outdoor shooting situations. The 24-120 is neither here nor there, slow for indoors and short for outdoors.
@@ElementaryWatson-123 if you want indoor shooting then I would skip the 28-75 and get a prime. Better image quality, just use your feet to move. The primes will outperform and have better bokeh.
This is a bad lens on Nikons terms. They just want to sell a "2.8" std zoom to "please" people. But I would still pick the 24-120 over this for outdoors all day.
Prime+ 24-200 or Prime + 24-120.
@@coltoncyr2283 I already have 24/1.8 and 35/1.8 primes. But 2.8 zoom is often sufficient when shooting indoors. And you can't understate the importance of zoom flexibility.
The problem with 24-120/4 as I mentioned is that its use cases are very limited, it's neither good for indoors because it's slow nor outdoors, because it's short. Which means you still need faster zoom and longer zoom, in which case 24-120/4 becomes redundant.
Thank you for providing this. I shoot video primarily and photos second. I've been shooting with a Nikkor Z 35mm f/1.8 S prime as well as the Nikkor Z 85mm f/1.8 S prime lenses, but I want to reduce the amount of gear I have for a minimalist setup. I don't like swapping out lenses all the time so I think a zoom lens instead of prime is going to serve me better. I'll be looking to buy this 28-75mm lens as the replacement to my two prime lenses (unless you have a better recommendation for me). I shoot tech videos on RUclips just for context, and I pretty much only shoot indoors.
Great videos Christopher, keep up your excellent work my friend
Hi Christopher. Fascinating video. I am trying to choose between Z 24-70 and Z 28-75 lenses. Big price difference! Someone suggested 28-75 (non S-Line) cannot track as well as 24-70 (S-Line). Do you agree?
Regarding the Tamron / Nikon debate:
The lens is a Tamron design, licensed by Nikon, manufactured by Tamron, packaged in a Tamron-style box. It's likely some of the coatings and the firmware are different, as well as, of course, the exterior.
70-80% of Tamron's manufacturing output go towards lenses of other brands, there are plenty of Tamron lenses out there under other names, and noone even bats an eye. This is just a more overt example of rebranding than most.
I've selled my 24-70mm f/2.8 and my 24-200mm f/4-6.3 and bought this one and the 24-120mm. One for video, landscape and travel and the over one for wedding and event. I am very happy with that decision, because this combo is even better than my old one and I get the two new lenses for the same money I've sold the "old" ones.
Which one you are using for wedding ?
@@indianweddingcinematic-sin9447 The 28-75mm. I don't need the sharpest corners for portraits, but I want the shallower depth of field. AF is quick and it's very lightweight. But I use a 70-200mm f/2.8 on a second body.
@@markusschlevogt Looks good choice of lens. Are u happy with the performance of 28-75mm ? I shoot mostly wedding videos . Share ur feedback brother
I'm thinking of doing the same..i love the 24-70 f2.8 but would rather have the option of 24-120 for landscape and travel while keeping 28-75 for indoor/events!
@@indianweddingcinematic-sin9447 On the Z9, the 28-75 give me around 95% performance of the 24-70 for photo-work. For video I can't see any difference. AF is fast and on point, sharpness is on the same level but dang, this thing is so much lighter. Especially for gimbal work, you can feel the difference. I would say the two things, the 28-75 is "most worse" against the 24-70 is vignetting and corner sharpness, but both could be very pleasing for wedding, depends on your shooting/photo style. And you've seen the video, this is a Z-lens.... it's damn good ;)
Interesting lens from Nikon. I could see this being a great kit lens for an upcomming camera like the Z8.
Z8 will probably have Sony’s 61mp sensor this will struggle in the corners
@@jukeboxjohnnie Maybe the 24-120 F4 then... although corners aside, I do find this lens more compelling
@@jukeboxjohnnie hopefully it will be a stacked sensor.
@@opwanncanopie I would stretch to the 24-70 2.8 for a Z8 I think. Lenses hold value better than cameras anyway
@@jukeboxjohnnie Well... with the R5 canon ships it with the 24-105 f4, so I was thinking that would be the comparable. The cost of a 24-70 + Z8 would be in the 8-9k range.
Strange that the close up performance is so much improved over the Tamron when the moderate distance test chart performance is the same.
I think Nikon probably limited the close up distance over the Tamron original G1 version. And Nikon also probably added their own coatings which explains the better contrast.
@@victorlim5077 At 75mm the close focus distance is the same, so that does not explain it.
@@Bayonet1809 Interesting. Can't be the coatings. Doubt the Nikon coatings would improve the close up performance.
@@victorlim5077 I rather think that they changed the focus group and the aperture pupil (and maybe the coating of the inside of the barrel)
The price is what makes this lens such a dilemma. I remember when $1,200 could *almost* get you a top of the line 24-70 2.8. This really belongs at somewhere between $600-800 for the build quality and image quality. This continues to be my disappointment with mirrorless systems across the board; because they are engineering new mounts and even in some cases new lens designs, they are charging premiums on every lens they produce whether it boasts quality to match the price or not. All it serves to do is keep me happy with my DSLR's and looking to third parties for lenses.
the only reasonable lens like that is the Sigma 24-70 2.8 DG DN which is fantastic value for money (top of the line 24-70 2.8 for $1100 or so) but i generally agree, although the mirrorless lenses are typically very good quality they usually cost far too much
i remember when manufacturers started switching to Mirrorless system and released new mount with mini flange distance they said new mount will help them to make lenses more affordable. reality is completely opposite lol.
Well you can always adapt..
Have to agree, the prices are the big problem with mirrorless. This one, the price is just far too high IMO to consider a purchase.
I think most buyers have expectations, and the cost of lenses has gone far beyond sensible. It is of course possible to adapt lenses, and that might be the better option.
Building a native MILC system ground up, would cost a small fortune. Too many good deals on SLR mount gear, to not consider that.
@@MB-dq2gz Just refuse to buy into any system where the brand refuses to allow 3rd party glass.
Nice lense, but it would be much better and easier if Nikon just allowed third party lenses and invited Tamron and Sigma to Z mount. Newest Tamron 28-75 F2.8 seems better than this one. And it would allow Nikon to focus their efforts on more exotic lenses, and leave such zooms to third party
This lens tamron lens, nikon rebrand it
@@HussainAli-pv7kkactually no. Different elements and group layouts.
did you get a new test chart or did you apply noise reduction to the photos? It looks weird this time
As a Canon user, it's interesting to see what Nikon is doing, but the quality doesn't convince me.
I would tend to save up and buy the more expensive 24-70 2.8 S :)
Just like Canon also has very good, very expensive and heavy L line lenses, and then they have low quality variable aperture lenses, not really anything in between. In some way Nikon is providing an in-between step by producing low quality third party lenses like this one, that sit right between. This doesn't compete with their own 24-70 f/2.8, they don't want that (and why they likely didn't want the better G2 version) but it does provide a way for certain people to move to Z mount and having a fast constant aperture lens without breaking the bank, something Canon doesn't offer.
@@Eikenhorst trying to extract a mid range 50mm prime from Canon is like trying to get blood out of a stone! I know there is a f1.4 on the horizon but I think it's going to be an expensive L lens. A high quality f1.8 would be nice.
I stand corrected, they did end up offering the Tamron G2 version, even under Tamron's own brand, instead of just copying their design and slab their logo on it and charge a premium for that.... Not sure they sell any of these 'native' Nikon lenses in 2024 anymore
a review of 24-200 nikon Z lens would be interesting, as i find your reviews on point!
just got me that lens since I need 2.8 for my concert photography (at least!), and the 24-70 is ridiculously expensive for a lens that probably will get a beer bath ;)
Great and timely review.
Really have to look into the 24-120!
Hi Chris, great reviews. I am moving over from Canon to Nikon for my first mirrorless as a Pro stills photographer. My canon 24-70 f2.8 has been indispensable, but now I am trying to work out which Nikon lens would be as good, as there is the 24-70 f2.8 S, 28-75 f2.8 or the 24-70 f4S. Im guessing for best image quality and sharpness it would be the 24-70 f2.8 S for the best possible work horse?
Looks like the 24-120 f4S is the better lens in image quality. They aren't called S line for nothing i guess.
My guess with this 28-75, same optical assembly as the Tamron but nikon is using their own coatings. Yes it's expensive, but you are paying for guaranteed support and peace of mind. No compatibility issues will arise from future firmware updates to a camera body.
Hi! What about Sony 35 2.8?
Btw you're doing some amazing work! The only channel I think of first when looking for a new/old lens review
Great review as always. I just have a niggling thought about your LOCA analyses: wouldn't you need to show a scene that includes blurred OOF text at each aperture to assess the colour shifts? You tend to use a view that only shows OOF areas at wide apertures, so when you stop down, inevitably the LOCA goes away. But if you shot a 1m long ruler or something from close up, such that only say 10cm is in focus to start, then some areas would still be OOF when stopped down, and might still show LOCA?
Not really. The wide open example shows the most extreme case of LoCA. As you stop down it either goes away completley or becomes less apparent.
As long as you know the worst case all other apertures will be better
FYI, the 28-75 is actualy cheaper than the 24-120, by a margin of 200€, and is availlable for buying. The 24-120 is still nowhere to be found in stores, even tough it came on the market last december. :/
Excellent video as usual, thanks.
The focus seems alot faster than older Nikon Z lenses? Is it because of a firmware update on your Z7 or are the new lenses just faster? Hope you have time to respond :)
Excellent video 😊!
It would be nice if you also compare the distortion and vignette with the auto correction turning on. But still a very helpful review. Thank you!
Quite interesting review, would you consider this lens as a step up over the 24-70f4?
I am getting this lens over 24-70 f4. Better bokeh of 2.8 is my priority (24-70 2.8 is too pricey for my use). I agree that the corners are soft, but for portraits it's irrelevant and for landscapes you step down to 5.6 or higher anyway. On top of that you get a twice faster lens than 24-120 or 24-70 f4, and it's quite light in terms of weight too.
I purchased the 24-70 F/4 as a kit lens which puts me in an odd position. I have a bunch of 1.8 primes in-between and I was counting on this lens to justify my purchase of it, but for a zoom lens I want to use it for everything and I want it lightweight. This one seems more suitable for subjects and less so for landscapes. That leaves me with the sharper extra 50mm of length 24-120 F/4 which is better for subjects but less flexible indoors when lighting becomes a challenge...
I may just hang on to my 24-70 F4 for a while longer until I see a sale or refurb of the 2.8 in a better price range since I have the range covered with primes anyway. 🤔
No definitely not. It's not overly sharp at 2.8 and the F4 is sharper throughout. Unless you need 2.8 then the 24-70mm f4 s is a cut above.
In Poland, the Nikon 28-75 costs $ 1,200, and the Nkon 24-120 costs $ 1,450. It seems to me that compared to the tamron 28-75 the image in the center seems much sharper at any focal length and the aberrations appear smaller. But that's my opinion
Fine Review, Chris!
It was obvious before, that Nikon could have had finetuned the G1 Tamron 28-75/2.8 Design (E-Mount) but also, that the corner performance wouldn't being drastically improved. So why should Nikon Z Mount Users buy a old-tech Tamron Design, when the Sony E-Mount G2 Design is being 1) way cheaper and 2) improved anyway ?! Famous YT'ber Richard Wong reviewed the G1 vs G2 Tamron, and conclusion was: G2 is already at F2.8 open aperture the same sharpness into the corners, as the old G1 stopped down to F8! phew - that's a blow for the old G1 design. And it was obvious too, that after all, the new Nikon 24-120 F4 Z would being a winner - the older F-Mount 24-120 F4 VR is no slouch, but there are things which could being improved - and the new Z Mount version delivered now. Great job, Nikon ! Nikon Users can use basically the way cheap (but great) 24-70 F4 Z, or the newer 24-120 F4 Z Mount now. No need for this Tamron 28-75/2.8 Z into Nikon Design, basically :)
The 24-120 is really impressively sharp (for a zoom lens). At 24mm wide open it is actually sharper than the Z24mm f1.8 prime stopped down to f4. And it stays sharper while stopping down both lenses
@@romanpul It's into 2022 atm the best 24-120 F4 Zoom being avialable, from any brand. Sonys FE 24-105 F4 isn't that great.
@@marcp.1752 Yeah, I currently have it on order and can‘t wait to get my hands onto it.
Good points but everyone needs to remember, the 24-120 is an ‘S’ branded lens, so it should perform better. I think Nikon ‘dropped the ball’ on this 28-75 lens; It is available and at much reduced prices. One can get it at the Nikon Refurbished store for a little over $600 USD. Do keep in kind, having the constant F2.8 aperture is a big deal. Twice the light as an F4.0 lens.
I think the 28-75 has its place, where the faster aperture, lighter weight, and lack of focus breathing, is an asset.
Nikon’s pricing is a strange phenomenon, as the 24-120 is so close in price to the 24-70 F4.0? Yes, when bought as a kit, the 24-70 F4.0 is the better bargain. It is lighter, more compact, but the 24-120 is obviously the way to go, if buying the lens outright. As always, YMMV. Peace
@@georgedavall9449 nikon pricing of the 24-70 F4 is a trick to sell more lens+body kit. Basically they sell it in kit for the price it is worth and sell it alone for an insane amount so people buying it in kit think their getting it for a good price.
05:40 flower photo and 05:47 "very strong out-of-focus points of light do see a little outlining" Chris said.
Well, I think of a Tamron G1 lens which has such issues on its bokeh. So, can we just say this lens is a Tamron G1 lens with some amendments adapted for Z-mount system?
I remember the 28-70ish canon lens back in the 90s. That was enough back in the film days.
I owned that L lens! It was nice for the time.
How about the Sony 24-70 f/2.8 G Master Chris? Always wondered about that one as it's getting on a bit in age.
Many thanks for the amazingly timely review. I have to say I'm quite disappointed by this lens. When it's more expensive than the Tamron G2, I expect better performance, but clearly from the corner sharpness it's pretty much the same as the G1. I got my hands on a used z7 not long ago and I'm in need of a z mount standard zoom. I am going to take your advice and get the 24-120 z despite the fact that I really want a 2.8. I guess I'll just wait for Tamron to release z mount version of the 28-75 G2.
You may have to wait for 3-4 years
Share your feelings on this lens. Too much of a compromise, given the price.
@@lazyliquid the 24-120 f/4 is full of compromises too.
@@admintilburgers no, everybody is loving it.
Have you considered doing an e-mount wide angle lens comparison?
A rebranded Tamron 28-75 RXD G1.. With somewhat unacceptable 1199$ price tag
Gotta pay the Nikon tax on all Z mount glass.
But its not a rebranded Tamron. It clearly performs better and is a Nikon supported product with Z ecosystem integration.
Well Nikon mount is quite large and I am guessing the manufacturer needs to make larger optics to make it work with the larger mount and hence the higher price tag. I am wondering how much better is this lens compared to Tamron.
Also note that Chris expects the best of the best. So i am pretty sure this lens is not as bad. I have seen some sample portrait pictures at DPReview and the pictures from this lens looks stunning. For me if I had to choose between this or the 24-70 F4, I rather get this f2.8 lens. This allows for more light, lower iso and faster shutter speed. I trade that over higher ISO anytime.
@@mpgnz73You're drinking too much Flavor Aid. It renders a bit differently on a Nikon camera because Nikon cameras have different biases than Sony cameras. It's the G1 with a Z mount. It has the same optical design as the G1 but Nikon charges more because Nikon. I paid the Nikon tax for many years and was happy to do so. Now I'm happy I don't have to.
@@mlai2546 It's the G1, the published optical design is identical. A larger mount does not require larger optics, the required image circle and the lens aperture determine that. The difference is that Nikon cameras process images differently to Sony cameras so the same lens on a Nikon will result in slightly different images to a Sony.
The biggest difference is that there's a big Nikon tax on the Nikon version which means the much improved G2 is cheaper on Sony than the G1 is on Nikon.
Woah this is a lot earlier than I though! Shhhweet!
Thank you for all your videos. They offer the exact information one needs, I always look at them before buying. I wonder if you would still advice the 24-120 f4 now the price difference has flipped )at least where I am, the 2.8 is actually 150 dolars cheaper). Cheers!
I purchased the F/4 awhile ago. Got an email of a refurbished 28-70mm for $650 and revisited this video and the Matt Irwin video and decided that I will skip buying this one again. I think it would be good for portraiture the corner sharpness at 2.8 will have you using the lens at F/4 to 5.6 without the extra 49mm of range on the much sharper 24-120mm F/4.
Corners don't seem that soft on the z6ii.
Awesome, hope you get to see the 24-200 for z mount. It’s made us all bonkers 😆
Thanks for an informative video. I am a z6 user. In your opinion, What I may miss switching from 24-70 4s (kit lens) to this 28-75 f2.8. Pls let me know your views. Thanks
Hey, I own an old Tamron 24-70mm f2.8 G2 which is mounted to a Nikon Z6 using the FTZ adapter. It works fine and is my current workhorse, but now I feel it's quite heavy for a mirrorless, especially with that adapter. So I'm trying to find a replacement. I'm torn between 24-120 and this 28-75. I know that the 24-120 is a better performer, but honestly I'm leaning toward the 28-75 due to the f2.8 as I often shoot in lowlight. The question is, will this becomes an upgrade or downgrade in terms of AF and sharpness compared to my Tamron? Or should I stick to my Tamron until I can afford the mighty 24-70 f2.8 S 😅?
Hope this will reach some people who can answer my dilemma.
Note: the 28-75 f2.8 is around US$ 120 cheaper than the 24-120 in my country.
how much 28-75?
I am in the same struggle. How did you decide?
so basically hes saying the 24-120mm f4 z lens is a better value for the money correct?
agree with u Chris, I would love to get 24-120 at that price point
I'm sure this can be used for weddings
How about a review of the Z 24-200?
Thanks as always for your good videos. How did sharpness compare with the Z 24-120? I don’t do many events so probably don’t need the f/2.8. Maybe putting it in a Z6 with its high ISO performance would compensate for the slower aperture.
Check out his 24-120mm video, it is sharper overall, bit this one is really sharp in the center.
@@MB-dq2gz I commented before his conclusion and I’d watched that video too. That’s my impression too. The 24-120 is better overall. I just wish my store had one for me.
unfortunately this lens is much cheaper than the f4 24-120 z.
So please - where and when was the latter one ever cheaper than the one you reviewed here ?
yeah for some reason the 24-120 is way more expensive than this lens
at least in my country
In all honesty, this is one lens that I don't understand it's place in nikon lineup. There is affordable 24-70 f4, there is great 24-70 2.8s and there is also a fantastic 24-120 f4.
Well, nikon knows their reason but for me this lens makes no sense.
I've been actually waiting for this lens. A nice bokeh of 2.8 is my priority and I didn't want to shell out 2k for 24-70 2.8. Yes, the corners are soft, but for portraits it's irrelevant and for landscapes you step down to 5.6 or higher anyway. On top of that you get a twice faster lens than 24-120 or 24-70 f4.
@Man in Dandism Not really. I've been photographing for years (had D800 since it came out in 2012/13) and I always prioritized fast lenses. The only lens above 2.8 was ultra wide or 300mm prime. I shoot wide open most of the time, be it wildlife or my kids, as I mainly prioritize bokeh. I just bought 28-75 f2.8 and I can tell you that I have no complaints, center and mid are absolutely great (I don't need sharp corners in this lens). For landscape I will mainly use 14-30 f4. I don't think I would notice that 28-75 is any worse than 24-70 unless I pixel peep at around 100% which is not what I'm interested in.
Please review the Tamron 35-150 F2-28!
Hi Thanks for this video, please do review on nikon z 70-180 f2.8
So, just like the other two members of Nikon's "little trinity" (Z 17-28mm/2.8, Z 28-75mm/2.8, Z 75-180mm/2.8), you just "get what you pay for", and that's exactly what was to be expected from Nikon. If you want premium quality, in terms of material and build quality as well as optical performance, you'll have to pay the premium price and carry quite a bit of bulk around with you. I would just get the Z 24-120mm/4 as the daily "go to" lens and put either the Z 14-30mm/4 in my bag as an ultrawide or the Z 100-400mm/4.5-5.6 VR as a tele lens.
This is very interesting, I have always been a Nikon user, but I bought in to Fuji a couple of years ago. I am considering the Nikon Z system, but ironically the fuji 18-55 puts in a much better performance than this. No point paying for a 2.8 lens if you have to stop down. This lens is far too overpriced, as most of the Z lenses are. Hopefully, there will be some more independent lenses in the future.
If it only it started a 24mm. F2.8-4 would have be fine to keep the weight and size down.
Can you compare it with the new Tamron Z 28-70 2.8?
I am little bit confused between Tamron Z 28-75 G2 and Nikon 28-75. Plz suggest me
How would you compare to the 24-120 that you just reviewed.
Will the corners be sharper if you do not correct distortion?
Please test Nikon 24-200mm f6.3
I'm sorry, I don't see a link to the sample images.
This should be perfect enough for weddings as I'm tired of swapping prime lenses because clients think I don't know what I'm doing.
tell your clients that they mind their business and judge your pics and not your gear
a bit disappointing in my opinion. I think I'll just go with the 24-70 f/4. You can find a used one for less than half the price than this lens.
I have one and it is crazy sharp
28-75/2.8 is actually sharper at the center than 24-70/4, it only softer at the corners on the wide end. In practice, the corners are rarely of great importance. But you can't beat f/2.8, it's a must if you need to shoot indoors.
@@ElementaryWatson-123VR with z mount camera easily solve the indoor f/4 thing
@@tamsaiming2003 it depends on what you are shooting. If you are in a museum then I would agree. If you have people or animals that move then I disagree. My subjects are mostly people, sometimes dogs, and I try to never go longer than 1/140 with any lens, any kind of image stabilization. So for my purposes f/2.8 is a must, I wish somebody would make 24-50/2 just for indoors people shooting.
What a wonderful review as always! Is there any chance of reviewing Tamron 35-150 f/2 - 2.8 for Sony cameras ?
How about the 17-28?
What do you think how it can work with a Nikon Z fc APS-C ?
Compared to 24-70 f/4 which I own, which one is better for landscapes stopped down to f/8?
Well if you are not using the F2.8 Id say S line are normally better
He hecho Nikon Z6 II y Nikkor Z 28-75mm f/2.8 pero a veces las imágenes me han salido borrosas no sé por qué.
Doesn’t seem like a terrible option for portraits
Thank you!
Tamron rebranded to nikkor?
Nikon Z 28-75mm f/2.8 lens not good with image quality, i personally experienced..Please check aperture points, before you buy as few points were missing.
The 24-120 f4 S is really a better option, and a genuine Nikkor, rather than this re-badged Tamron.
Didn't understand the ending - videographers prefer wider aperture? What is so special about them? I thought everyone prefers wider aperture
You saved me $975 again today… 🤣
Thank you for the review.
Please get one of those hand exercisers and do that regularly. I know we cant all get big hands by exercising but we should at least try
So basically it's a Tamron 28-75 G1 rebadged Nikon ( Nikon badge causes a +50% cost increase ). Still, in order to justify it, some fanboys are claiming a special "coating" made from Nikon, yeah, sure. Do not get me started on the videos comparing them and highlighting "differences" in color, they are not even using the same camera for those tests.
it can become a popular Z lens if they offer it as a kit lens with slightly less price.
Im happy that theres more options, but I think there could be some pretty big implications for Nikon repackaging a Tamron lens, none of which I am happy about. 1. Sigma might have a rougher time at supporting the mount. 2. Tamron might have agreed not to develop their own branded lenses for Nikon. Meaning we might not get their full range. Nikon may be picking a select set of Tamron lenses they will repackage. 3. Nikon slapping hundreds of extra dollars on the now old G1 Tamron lens isn't a good sign. 4. This dooms my hope for a top notch, external zoom 70-200 2.8 for Nikon. Canon has one, and Sony's new internal zoom one is slightly smaller but a lot lighter than typical. Nikon won't see any reason to develop a top notch COMPACT 70-200ish 2.8 competitor when they can just repackage the less than stellar Tamron 70-180 2.8. Don't tell me "just wait for a Nikon 70-200 f/4." That's not the same thing. Clearly Canon is capable of a compact 70-200 2.8 that sacrifices no image quality.
I'm a former Nikon shooter who moved from Nikon DSLRs to Sony mirrorless. Nikon make beautiful gear and I'm glad to see them doing great things with the Z9 that will trickle down to the less expensive models. The #1 reason I moved to Sony instead of Nikon for mirrorless? The excellent 3rd party lens selection. Sony owns a chunk of Tamron and is supportive of 3rd party makers on e mount. If you want 3rd party glass only one of the "big three" offers it. Come to the dark side!
@@IanHobday the thing that made me choose to stay with Nikon as I transition to mirrorless is the flange distance. With the shortest flange distance among the big 3, I can adapt Sony lenses, even with AF (not amazing AF), and there is no geometrical reason why there cannot be a RF to Z adapter. Potentially I could use any lens for any system on Nikon
@@PASquared Cross-brand adapters are fine as a stop-gap measure during a migration. They are a terrible long-term solution. If there is a single lens that you want to adapt then sure, that might be okay for some uses. More than that? Nope, not a good long term solution to poor lens selection, and I think you know that already.
@@PASquared Bottom line, if you want a good selection of 3rd party glass then Sony is the only game in town. I won't consider moving back to Nikon or Canon (which I used until 2008) until the 3rd party situation is equal. I doubt it will ever happen, unfortunately.
@@IanHobday At this point only the Tamron 70-180mm for E Mount, the Canon 28-70 f/2 and Canon 5.2mm VR dual fisheye are the lenses I feel are unmatched by Nikon's current lineup or roadmap, I'm definitely satisfied with the selection and quality of Nikon's other offerings
Affordable compared to the overpriced Nikon lenses, but this is the Gen 1 Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 with some Nikon's modifications.
Nikon is audacious to ask US$1200 for this lens when the Gen 2 Tamron is only US$900.
But I guess it will be justified by Nikon fans nevertheless.
I own the Tamron 28-75 2.8 on the F mount and was hoping that Nikon would open their mount for 3rd party to get the g2 lense ... I was happy when I heard that Nikon gonna offer a native lense themselves (and was expecting a better lense than Tamron ... Tamron makes great lenses but usually Nikon makes better ones) ... I'm not surprised that the nikon cost extra 200-300$ but DISAPPOINTED that its IQ is worse than the Tamron...
Nikon announced many lenses and the Z9 in the past 15 month and exceeded its users expectations however this is a big miss 😢
i'm surprised that their 24-120 f4 zoom is sharper than this at f4.
Tbh, the lighter weight of this means I'll be more likely to be carrying it, therefore it beats the 24-70 which I won't
Honestly I would rather have the Tamron G2 for $300 less if it were available on Nikon.
Very expensive for what seems to be a first generation Tamron lens for more than the price of the second generation.
I'm so Jealous of Nikon users these days... though I don't envy their pocketbooks
Tamron 28-75mm G1 OEM ...
I’ve paid quite less for my Nikon professional 80 to 200 mm f2,8, about 15 years ago, and five other fixed lenses. Looking at the ordinary results in the corners of this new plastic zoom I’m more than happy to have made the switch to Fujifilm. Great lenses, small bodies, nice colours and great ergonomics.
Lol just did the opposite switch and I love my Z6 compared to my xt2 which died from heavy rain. Iike the grip better and the ergonomic is great I think.
Nikon must have serious financial problems if they release a licensed version of an outdated Tamron lens. The G2 version is so much better in most regards, it's a shame that they couldn't use that version. I shoot Sony, but I really don't wanna see Nikon losing the race.
Nope, they don't. They just released their financial results last week. Just because a company releases a licensed product doesn't mean they are in financial troubles.
@@romanpul "Crucially then, how is Nikon performing in the DSLR and mirrorless segments? Overall, its sales have been dropping year on year, which is worrying in an expanding market. It blames this on parts shortages, but this is at a time when Canon is able to successfully expand its production, and while its longtime-rival accounts for 52% of the ILC market, Nikon has grabbed only 13%. It may try to squeeze as many positives out of the Z9 as it can, but as I’ve noted before, this will add little to its market share on a monthly production run of 3,500 units.
In terms of the split between DSLR and mirrorless, we can only glean this by comparison to the BCN Awards (although note that Nikon’s financial year doesn’t match BCN’s calendar year); Nikon potentially dropped DSLR market share (at 33.9%) to some 750,000 units. That doesn’t match with its estimate of shipping 700,000 units this year, which suggests it’s doing worse than we might think. It is possible that it’s actually dropping market share in both DSLR and mirrorless sectors at the same time Canon appears to be gaining share." Source: petapixel.com/2022/02/05/is-nikon-caught-in-a-perfect-storm/
@@mrbaiser4133 Unit marketshare doesn‘t mean a lot if most of the units are lowend D3500 and D5600 with very little margin. And there market is not expanding but decreasing. And those are the units which are breaking away. Loosing units which don‘t generate profit doesn’t really matter. Sales are dropping for years now. Sony for example suspended production of most of their APS-C cameras in 2021 and their camera business generated a loss for the first time in years (unlike Nikon, who made a profit in the first three quarters and had to revise their forecast upwards twice already). And that article is just ridiculous clickbait. Petapixel has lost most of it‘s credibility for years now. If Nikon is doing so badly how come their stockvalue has increased by over 100% within the last year?
The used price of this lens makes much more sense at 700-ish. 1200 is too much.
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with those prices my dear friends I think Nikon is not going to sell anything, a tamron for sony is cheaper
This is just the Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 Gen.1 for Sony E-Mount. What a joke, the Nikon 28-75mm 2.8 is even more expensive than the Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 plus adapter for Z Mount. Clearly a thumbs down for this Nikon lens.
It’s way better if Nikon rebranded the Tamron 28-75 G2 for the price, maybe Sony holds 12% of Tamron and stop Tamron doing that, anyway, I think Sony wins😆