Have both of them. My experience is that the Sony has a better screen, Sony's lowest brightness is lower (handy at night when you dont want to bother your partner), Sony has wireless charging and longer software updates, the Asus has a build-in option to record calls, this is not possible with the Sony. Asus has cool lock and unlock sound effects. Both have very good battery life, zenfone due to efficiënt chip, Sony larger battery. I have chosen the Sony myself, but will miss the Asus. Thank for your video's! Love your channel and good reviews. Watch every video.
@@avenuePad I tried the Xperia 1 IV as well, but unfortunately it did not fit in my car wirelless charge pad. Typing is the same between them for as far i can recall. (depends on how big your hands are). The battery life on the other hand is far superior on the xperia 5. Ofcourse, camera setup in the 1 is superior. So choose whats more important for you. I have to say, personally I don't miss the 1 as I started to love the smaller size.
man, if the Zenfone 9 had a microSD slot it would've been perfect for me (I use my phone as a FLAG player on a daily basis). Xperia 5 checks all the boxes for me but the price difference is a deal breaker... Great review btw!
Probably I would choose Zenfone 9 just because it have plastic back. But hats off to Sony for managing to tame the chipset. If Sony could fit 5000mah battery in 6.1 inch for factor with headphone jack and micro SD slot, I wonder why other company decided not to do this.
A possible answer to that would be that subsequent releases of phones wouldn't look quite as appealing in comparison. The zenfone 9 has 4300mah, the zenfone 8 got a 4000mah which makes it a additional selling point. They probably could have easily put in 4300 in the zenfone 8 but they didn't. The same with every other brand. They don't want to create the best possible smartphone. They want to create the phone that is good enough for people to buy but bad enough to make people consider a upgrade 1 or 2 generations down the line.
@@Apple-International glass is glass and glass breaks. it's one less thing to worry about if you accidentally dropped your phone. especially when the glass back contribute nothing to the functionality of the phone other than just giving it 'premium look/feel to the touch'. you're going to slap on a plastic case on it, so why bother with glass.
Great review! I especially like the section you dedicated simply to ergonomics and design. That's one very important part that people who are looking into compact phones are interested in. I also wish you talked about the software experience, like features and UI comparison.
I'll probably go Sony, but it's close. Wireless charging, shutter button, telephoto lens, external memory card. Boom. (Thanks to both brands for keeping the 3.5mm jack!)
I pre-ordered the Sony. Came with those $300 Sony ear buds for free. The memory slot was the main thing sold me on the Sony, plus the great camera features.
Great review! I have both but will be letting go of the Zenfone for these (probably subjective): 1. I find that the xperias coupled with their factory casebacks are phenomenally good in your hand - never slippery and with a bit of added thickness they become extremely secure in your hand for one handed operation. I struggle to keep a secure hold of the Zenfone with or without it's caseback. 2. I've found that recent Xperia cameras behave and take images more like real cameras - less processing, more neutral rendition, more difficult to get a good snap but better to actually postprocess to your liking in Lightroom, unlike other brands that over process images in a way that you either like or dislike - especially over sharpening is awful. 3. I'm a sucker for barometers and notification LEDs :)
Yeah, I guess the timeline of their development in manufacturing cycle was just that the phone was already well into its manufacturing process. Sony mobile division just isn't as big or have the benefit from economies of scale quite the way Samsung or Apple does.
I think sony designed this phone at the same time as xperia 1 but somehow xperia 5 iv release takes more time, changing plans is not that easy, let alone changing chipset you need to redesign software to match the chipset
The strength of SONY is the AV system. Plug-in the headphone and listen a song or watch the video, you will find the difference. For Zenfone, I have to buy a Galaxy watch for listening music because of the poor sound quality. Now, you will find why there is a price difference.
Think this is the best comparison video of those two and very valuable. While I have made my decision already some time ago (pro the ZF9), it is important to have such a detailed overview of those two devices. I tried the 5 II 2 years back and while being impressed by the camera options, I cannot excuse it anymore that Sony is not giving the option to include a more advanced HDR / night view technology. In combination with the basically missing gcam support for the 5, this keeps me away from the Sony for the time being. A little bit of (constructive) critisism still for the video: The software experience was barely mentioned and while I think it is not a big thing (also both being quite close to "stock"), I think it should be included a bit more.
Christian, may I ask you about the ZF9? Do you use the Gcam? And if so, is it possible to "double tap" the back panel to open the Gcam, or only the native app? Thanks!
@@danaltaras1095 hi Dan, yes, I use the gcam as my main camera application. Alpha version 8.6 from BSG currently and I am quite to very happy about it. The double tap gesture will not be able to start it though as (for whatever reason) it is limited to some general things such as flashlight, play/pause media, sounds recorder etc. I use a long press on the power button to open the camera and double press of it to switch on and off the flashlight. Hope that helped.
My launch day S10 is about to crap the bed so here I am. Heavily leaning towards the Xperia due to the SD card slot and also that green color it comes in. I quite like that color.
In the US if one order the ZF9 before 10/15 you also get a set of ROG Cetra True Wireless Gaming In-Ear Headphones, $699 US for 8/128 which I went for. Look forward to receiving it but I know my P6Pro will own it camera/support wise but I just want a smaller device. One also gets the case, and charger incl as well so I dont have to go spend more on those items plus the bonus BT headphones, cables for me are done as to get very good audio one needs to add a separate DAC at cost if adding very good wired headphones. ZF9 is clear winner on cost alone and being smaller
Xperia sounds is better, much more Rick between treble and bass. Zenfose was maybe louder, but not as well composed sound build. Yes it had bass, by the treble wasn't good.
Nice reviews man!!! Love my Xperia love how it holds good in my hand and still have a bigger phone then I had with my Iphone mini 12 bcz the screen and reading began to get difficult for me... Still need to tweak my homescreen and app page and it`s perfect. Yes I do feel it get warm fast and also think it drains my battery bcz of it, but just have it for two days now so mybe it need to learn and the battery get better so I cannot speak about it yet.
@@motorjack141 Yeah, that is a misstep. Asus leaving out the wireless charging was a misstep for them. Our whole office went with the 5 IV because of that, but we really wanted the Z9 because of its size. Unfortunately there aren't a whole lot of phones with headphone jacks anymore. And even less that you can put in your pocket. The Z9 would be perfect, but we use the wireless charging stands to conduct telephoto meetings at our desk. What can you do? 🤷🏽♂️😄
@@Applerumcake put a wire on it while meeting? Hahahahaha i have the s8 ultra for meetings and want my phone to be small and have great battery, i currently still have the Huawei Mate 20x. Hahaha
Thanks for your reviews man. Very good I didnt try the Xperia 5 IV. But I owned both the Xperia 5 II and Xperia 5 III (and a bunch on other Xperias before that). Then I got pissed and decided to turn my back on Sony and try the Zenfone 9. I like it, although I miss the build quality of the Sony. What I wanted is a high quality, high performance compact phone, clean android, and great battery life. There is not a lot of phones for me, I dont want a chinese phone and don't want a Samsung, no apple also. I don't give a sh*t about wireless charging. Also, I know it's not a big thing but I wish Asus would put a notification light on the phone. When you get used to this, then you really miss it when it's gone.
Tolles Video 👍 Mir ist übrigens beim Display vom Xperia 5 IV aufgefallen, dass es im Creator-Modus (im Vergleich zum Xperia 1 IV) anders kalibriert wurde. Unabhängig von der Bildschirmauflösung sind die Farben satter, die Konturen schärfer und die Kontraste intensiver. Auch beim Weißwert hat das Xperia 1 IV einen leichten Grünstich. Ist dir das auch schon aufgefallen? 🤔
Hi to all Sony users. Is it possible to use on Xperia 5 IV 1 physical sim+ eSim+ microSD card simultaneously? And one more question regarding the photos. Is this phone makes such grat photos in auto mode,or by using PRO application? Thanks in advance.
I prefer Sony Xperia, I've listened to a couple of videos now and I think the sound of Xperia is much better than the Zenfone, rounder even though it's not that loud.
I would like to point out that when it comes to gaming, the zenfone got the xperia beat by quite a bit. The sd8+ gen1 is running just significantly better almost having a locked 60 fps on Genshin impact while the xperia should have 45 ish with lots of dips.
The review is really helpful for me to decide between these 2 compact flighips. One question I'm curious about, what about the heating condition for each device? Does 5IV heats up fast and does it affect the phone usage? (Web streaming, camera usage)
So far no issue. If you use the camera with wide range or HDR or the external display it will give you a heat and overheating warning but nothing as dramatic as I encountered at the beginning with the 1 IV
A lot of heating issues only happens when you turn on 4K and HDR. If you strictly 1080p, there's heat issues but no where near bad. Even better if you don't shoot video. Normal everyday task seems to not have much heat.
Nice review , sir! but I have to say that, regarding speakers comparisons, for me,maybe it's better if you use a different microphone , or just skip that demonstration 😉✌🏼
people don't buy phone because of casing and charger...I would prioritize battery life, build quality and how hot the device when operating may determine the decision.
It's easier to hold the Xperia without a case. Try it. The Zenfone is actually harder to hold securely. and if you add the factory case back to the Xperia it becomes fantastic in the hand. Got both phones.
End of the video is comparing getting a free case & charger on the Zenphone to a better camera & expandable storage on the Sony? The Xperia is better, but more expensive. You get what you pay for.
@@cooscountysafety2764 Because they were good devices.. The successor of the Zenfone 9 is simply a downgrade and the 5 Mark 5 is great but I used my budget already on other devices.
@@cooscountysafety2764 Look at the cameras. Front facing camera no AF or 4k. Ultrawide cam on the back no AF or 4k60fps anymore. Main cam basically the same as previous version.
Nice review, but i picked Zenfone 9 over Xperia 5 IV due to the value that Asus offers in a package. I mean if Sony had released in earlier and sale them slightly cheaper (consider they didn't offer anything in the box), then I would had consider Xperia 5 IV. I have to admit that Asus does have some work to done especially in the camera software department (and I still hope they will extend the security updates by at least an additional year or 2, make it same as Sony), but I still really enjoy using the Zenfone 9, not to mention that the charging brick included in the Zenfone 9 can be used to charge my ROG laptop as well :)
Thanks bro for the comparison. Do you have any thermal issue when filming/taking pictures? Still deciding go for 5iv or 1iv, not a game player, just a everyday user...
@@lltechview Yay, I don't really need 4K filming tbh. Just saw quite a lot of reviews saying even running in lower resolution still have issues, that gave me a pause...
Thank you! Regarding the compact factor - which one for you is better to carry in the pocket (heat, non-slip etc) and easier to wield, especially with one hand. Imagine you're traveling and often have only one hand free to quickly look up things text or take photos, which of the devices is more effective here?
@@lltechview to be completely honest, with a Pixel 4a, in not entirely sure if those devices rectify the price. Only if you need extreme gaming, or are serious about photography ;)
Xperia is better than the Zenfone 9 except in battery and maybe performances. I would say that i would go for the Zenfone 9 because i'm not gonna need a great photo sensor, and battery life is important !
Great review, seein how ya left it up to the comments..it eaz a close call...it seems no matter what phone vs comparisons..one does. One does not, one does not does great in other things...brands luv that shit ..it keeps buyers thinking, no mattter what...ive looked at both of these phones for purchase....i still dont know what phone im goin to choose, price has come down with the sony, but like apple phones, it doeznt stop with needing more.money in there bank accounts, which i fully despize...asus eas ready to go outta the box...great review by ya..TP....peace
Sorry another hard pass for me for Sony. I bought Xperia 1 III couple months ago but I was not impressed, I only liked the 4K screen and camera but battery life was dismal and I don't like UI. I'm a Sony fanboy I like their products especially the Alpha A7 cameras that I use professionally and personally but not yet with the Xperia. I would have loved the Asus Zenfone 9 to have wireless charging and microSD card expansion. I guess I'll keep my LG G8 for now.
Hallo, sehr schönes Video, danke dafür. :) Kannst du mir bitte genauer erklären, was du mit gcam meinst? Im Playstore finde ich at hoc nicht, was du meinst. Vielen Dank im Voraus.
Die Google Camera findet sich dort nicht. Nur im erwähnten Telegram Kanal kann man diese direkt vom Autor angepasst für das Zenfone 9 runterladen. Es ist eine Modifikation der offiziellen Google Camera App für Pixel Smartphones
I have never used side mounted fingerprint sensor (cum power button) in past. Hence a question: If I touch/press the button once, does it only wake up the phone or unlocks it completely? I frequently wake up my phone without unlocking it, to see time, notifications, etc. Can I do it in Zenphone/Xperia with a fingerprint cum power button?
btw i got the 5ii and its 70mm telelens. does the 5 iv make better zoom shots at that range or even further? it feels a bit like a downgrade to me from sony :( and especially with the 5v no telelens at all :(. what is your opinion on that? i saw some video saying that the 5v even has better zoom shots then the iv but i saw another video again at which they show the zoom shots and the iv seems better. i really hope this year the 5 series will have a telelens again. (i secretly hope a telelens like the 5iii but probably they will not do that :(
At what angle is the polarization of both screens? Look at the screen through your sunglasses (or a camera polarization filter) and rotate until you no longer see the screen. Is the polarization diagonal, portrait or landscape? Can either phone use multiple cameras simultaneously?
I onlynhad it show me the overheating sign adter over 12 minites 4k 30fps recording with the vlogging monitor indoors 24°C. No other issue so far in every day to day usage
Sony didn't manage to tame that dragon, the thinner chassis makes it harder to cool the phone, it heats up especially when using the camera and cuts you off when recording sometimes even shorter vid clips. Watch Michael Fisher's & Juan Bagnell's review you'll see, I think Sony should make an upper midranger with either SD 778G or 870/875, these 8/8+ Gens are very innefficient.
@@MrJoshkm I did not experience any shutdown of overheating. Only had one overheating warning when recording indoors at 24°C with the Vlog Monitor. Though I was able to record my 15 minutes of video just fine.
It's hard to make out audio quality during the speaker test. Maybe consider an alternative recording setup? The sound isn't clear for both phones, which I doubt is the case if heard in person.
Some phones on their own should have clearer audio capture. That is the cheapest. If you are willing to spend, a broadcast quality microphone is nice. I have been looking at Elgato Wave 3 personally, though it connects to USB and is a mic for a PC/laptop. Not sure if there are portable microphones other than Zoom that are used for recording. I used Takstar Pro 82 headphones to monitor the sound test you made, I suspect the lapel mic might have something to do with the poor audio quality.
@@adminuser5312 The lapel mic is one of the best sounding ones with stereo support I tested so far. The Zoom H2N might be an idea but in the past with its internal mics it was not convincing to me. Maybe I can retest this at one point
maybe 2 things you missed are: - sony's own one handed mode. - lowest sound level (i live in old student house and its nice if the sound at night is low af but still hearable) What i personaly would like to know about the xperia 5 iv is if you use native camera app in standard camera mode with burst on if its still possible to shoot single photos with the shutter button. I cant seem to get this on my xperia 5ii. they should have put 1 second delay between single and burst shot when holding the shutter button for that XD
Honestly love my zenfone 9, but non expandable storage is annoying since a 5th of my storage is taken by my music, I have to keep my emulator roms on a usb-c thumb drive, and I have to pay for cloud storage for photos but I usually just transfer most of my photos to my tablet or old icloud. I wanted a phone with a headphone jack and it works great, but expandable storage is a must so if the 10 doesn't have that I'm switching to Sony
Hello. Help tell me please. I shoot a lot of car inspections before buying. I choose cars for people. I want to buy myself a phone with a good video camera. just to make the video shoot well. I love the compact size. can't choose between phones - Asus ZenFone 9 vs iPhone 13 mini vs iPhone 13? What would you suggest?
@@lltechview Thank you so much! Can the power-double-press get the Gcam on even from sleep mode? I'm really torn between last year's SX5III and the ZF9 My priorities are: compact, quick-draw camera, quality camera (auto is fine too), as well as headphone jack. What do you think the lack of SD card on the ZF9?
@@danaltaras1095 Yes that works. Both are good phones. I like the Zenfone a lot but especially when it comes to the camera the Xperia 5 IV is better. I would say also the 5 III should perform better with its newest software.
Hello all, I'm hoping someone can help me. I'm lucky enough to have the 1 iv and think it's great. However, now that summer has arrived I've started having overheating issues which cause fast battery drain and call signal drops. Given that I use it for work, I really just need the most reliable phone for battery, call quality and software reliability. I was thinking of the ZenFone 9 being a good option, or will I have problems with any phone? Thanks all, Rob
@@lltechview Thanks for your reply. I wouldn't mind the phone overheating, but it's a phone and when it overheats I can't make phone calls. I don't even run it hard, I use 60fps and never shoot 4k, I just want a stable phone with good battery life and great phone calls. I just can't find one and it makes no sense.
@@Metaxas360 may I ask why you are struggling? Anyway, I replaced it with a Xperia 5 IV. I'm satisfied but I'm waiting for a new UI with Android 14. My old XZ1 Compact with Android 9 has almost a better UI experience than the actual Android 13 on 5 IV (e.g there's no. NFC switch among the top menu buttons)
@@mennio100 biggest issue is the size. I mean even though the Sony 5 is a rare species of compact phones nowadays, its size is still quite big compared to the xz1c. It is no single handed phone. At least not for me. Also 21:9 is not really useful. I think reason for that is Sonys extraordinary taste but also the battery that requires space. And width is a key point for compactness. In most cases you watch 16:9 footage and photos are shot also in that format. I agree about the UI. The xz1c is still almost perfect. LED could be also brighter. Speaker a bit louder. And where is the standard gallery? I installed old apk to still have it. I wish they would just bring a 5 compact in 16:9 :D Argh, I don't know. What do you prefer on the 5 above the xz1c (features, etc) ?
@@Metaxas360 I agree with you on the form factor, there are too many apps and too much video content not optimized for it . Anyway, the display is the most sensible improvement coming from my XZ1c (It's also my very first OLED device) . Then there are the speakers...my god, the Dolby Atmos feature is really impressive
before i had z1 compact and xz1 compact and now i have terrible zenfone 8. My choice will be clear-Sony. Never ever Asus. I had ramdump fail on zenfone 8 , motherboard changed and i lost all files, because there is no SD card i need copy everything to PC (just in case)
@@lltechview that was a quick response, sub earned Lol. Also have you noticed any difference in the sound quality through the headphone jack between these two?
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Have both of them. My experience is that the Sony has a better screen, Sony's lowest brightness is lower (handy at night when you dont want to bother your partner), Sony has wireless charging and longer software updates, the Asus has a build-in option to record calls, this is not possible with the Sony.
Asus has cool lock and unlock sound effects.
Both have very good battery life, zenfone due to efficiënt chip, Sony larger battery.
I have chosen the Sony myself, but will miss the Asus.
Thank for your video's! Love your channel and good reviews. Watch every video.
How do you find typing/texting on the 5 IV? I'm torn between the 1 IV and the 5 IV. Like really torn. Ugh. Lol
@@avenuePad I tried the Xperia 1 IV as well, but unfortunately it did not fit in my car wirelless charge pad. Typing is the same between them for as far i can recall. (depends on how big your hands are).
The battery life on the other hand is far superior on the xperia 5.
Ofcourse, camera setup in the 1 is superior. So choose whats more important for you. I have to say, personally I don't miss the 1 as I started to love the smaller size.
@@Maarten_vd Very interesting. Thank you for the insight! I hate that I have a choice between the 5 IV and 1 IV. 😂
I have read some of the owners complaints about heat of the Xperia 5. Did you experience heat?
Are you experiencing any of the reported heat related issues on your Xperia 5?
man, if the Zenfone 9 had a microSD slot it would've been perfect for me (I use my phone as a FLAG player on a daily basis). Xperia 5 checks all the boxes for me but the price difference is a deal breaker... Great review btw!
Agreed microSD card slot is a real miss for Asus.. they could have created something truly special.
Probably I would choose Zenfone 9 just because it have plastic back. But hats off to Sony for managing to tame the chipset.
If Sony could fit 5000mah battery in 6.1 inch for factor with headphone jack and micro SD slot, I wonder why other company decided not to do this.
because those companies suck
A possible answer to that would be that subsequent releases of phones wouldn't look quite as appealing in comparison. The zenfone 9 has 4300mah, the zenfone 8 got a 4000mah which makes it a additional selling point. They probably could have easily put in 4300 in the zenfone 8 but they didn't.
The same with every other brand. They don't want to create the best possible smartphone. They want to create the phone that is good enough for people to buy but bad enough to make people consider a upgrade 1 or 2 generations down the line.
why plastic back is important?
@@Apple-International Probably more drop/ scratch proof, and grippy if you don't use a case, but it's very much personal preference.
@@Apple-International glass is glass and glass breaks. it's one less thing to worry about if you accidentally dropped your phone. especially when the glass back contribute nothing to the functionality of the phone other than just giving it 'premium look/feel to the touch'. you're going to slap on a plastic case on it, so why bother with glass.
Great review! I especially like the section you dedicated simply to ergonomics and design. That's one very important part that people who are looking into compact phones are interested in. I also wish you talked about the software experience, like features and UI comparison.
Its so similar that I did not even bother doing anything about it
I'll probably go Sony, but it's close. Wireless charging, shutter button, telephoto lens, external memory card. Boom. (Thanks to both brands for keeping the 3.5mm jack!)
The external memory is completely worth the price for me. Sony is one of the last phone manufacturers to include external memory.
I pre-ordered the Sony. Came with those $300 Sony ear buds for free. The memory slot was the main thing sold me on the Sony, plus the great camera features.
Sadly, 5IV is not a physical dual sim-er, and he is not confirming in its testing how to and why so...
is it hot to touch or inside the pocket after use?
@@wkl3968 I'm still waiting for it ship at house. Oct 20th is the estimated delivery date .
@@lovemademan It's 1 physical and 1 eSIM. But that shouldn't be a problem right?!
Wich website you bought it and give the ear buds free?
Great review! I have both but will be letting go of the Zenfone for these (probably subjective): 1. I find that the xperias coupled with their factory casebacks are phenomenally good in your hand - never slippery and with a bit of added thickness they become extremely secure in your hand for one handed operation. I struggle to keep a secure hold of the Zenfone with or without it's caseback. 2. I've found that recent Xperia cameras behave and take images more like real cameras - less processing, more neutral rendition, more difficult to get a good snap but better to actually postprocess to your liking in Lightroom, unlike other brands that over process images in a way that you either like or dislike - especially over sharpening is awful. 3. I'm a sucker for barometers and notification LEDs :)
How do you use your barometer. I’ve always thought them superfluous, but would be interested in finding utility in it.
It makes me angry that Sony didn't give the 5 IV the 8+ Gen1 chip.
Yeah, I guess the timeline of their development in manufacturing cycle was just that the phone was already well into its manufacturing process. Sony mobile division just isn't as big or have the benefit from economies of scale quite the way Samsung or Apple does.
I think sony designed this phone at the same time as xperia 1 but somehow xperia 5 iv release takes more time, changing plans is not that easy, let alone changing chipset you need to redesign software to match the chipset
Looks like I'll have to wait another year to upgrade my S9 :/
@@tanzhonghui yes this iv series still not worth it, mybe pro series would be interesting but would be very expensive
That's the only reason why I'm not buying it! Waiting one more year...
The strength of SONY is the AV system. Plug-in the headphone and listen a song or watch the video, you will find the difference. For Zenfone, I have to buy a Galaxy watch for listening music because of the poor sound quality. Now, you will find why there is a price difference.
Think this is the best comparison video of those two and very valuable. While I have made my decision already some time ago (pro the ZF9), it is important to have such a detailed overview of those two devices. I tried the 5 II 2 years back and while being impressed by the camera options, I cannot excuse it anymore that Sony is not giving the option to include a more advanced HDR / night view technology. In combination with the basically missing gcam support for the 5, this keeps me away from the Sony for the time being.
A little bit of (constructive) critisism still for the video: The software experience was barely mentioned and while I think it is not a big thing (also both being quite close to "stock"), I think it should be included a bit more.
Christian, may I ask you about the ZF9?
Do you use the Gcam? And if so, is it possible to "double tap" the back panel to open the Gcam, or only the native app?
Thanks!
@@danaltaras1095 hi Dan, yes, I use the gcam as my main camera application. Alpha version 8.6 from BSG currently and I am quite to very happy about it. The double tap gesture will not be able to start it though as (for whatever reason) it is limited to some general things such as flashlight, play/pause media, sounds recorder etc. I use a long press on the power button to open the camera and double press of it to switch on and off the flashlight. Hope that helped.
Oh i was choosing between those two and your video had perfect comparison between them. thanx!
Imagine the battery life if xperia 5 iv had the gen8+ chip. Such a shame.
The Xperia is usually bundled with sunny Sony headsets in many markets that usually costs around 300 euros.
you can't imagine how much I would have loved that the Zenfone 9 included a periscope camera instead of the ultra wide.
Phone is too small for that to work. Would need to be taller
My launch day S10 is about to crap the bed so here I am. Heavily leaning towards the Xperia due to the SD card slot and also that green color it comes in. I quite like that color.
I care about battery capacity, micro SD slot, headphone jack, and wireless charging so for me the xperia wins easily.
In the US if one order the ZF9 before 10/15 you also get a set of ROG Cetra True Wireless Gaming In-Ear Headphones, $699 US for 8/128 which I went for. Look forward to receiving it but I know my P6Pro will own it camera/support wise but I just want a smaller device. One also gets the case, and charger incl as well so I dont have to go spend more on those items plus the bonus BT headphones, cables for me are done as to get very good audio one needs to add a separate DAC at cost if adding very good wired headphones. ZF9 is clear winner on cost alone and being smaller
Where i can buy it with this gift?
Thanks for the wonderful details. Only disadvantage I found in Zen phone is camera n lack of micro SD. Xperia disadvantages is 8 GEN. 😭
Absolutely great video. Thanks for this.
Xperia sounds is better, much more Rick between treble and bass. Zenfose was maybe louder, but not as well composed sound build. Yes it had bass, by the treble wasn't good.
Nice reviews man!!! Love my Xperia love how it holds good in my hand and still have a bigger phone then I had with my Iphone mini 12 bcz the screen and reading began to get difficult for me... Still need to tweak my homescreen and app page and it`s perfect. Yes I do feel it get warm fast and also think it drains my battery bcz of it, but just have it for two days now so mybe it need to learn and the battery get better so I cannot speak about it yet.
thankyou for making this video! I boiled down my choice to these 2 phones and ill be going with Sony!
I already own a good compact camera. I just need a good compact phone. With a 3.5mm jack. The choice is obvious. Thank you.
Looking forward to seeing these two phones compare to pixel7 ~
Hey, thank you for this balanced review. Did you notice any difference in quality of sound when using headphones?
I did a headphone comparison with the 1 IV already. The 5 IV behaves like the 1 IV here
If they put the 8+ gen1 on the xperia, it would make the decision easier. Also fast charge instead of wireless charging.
Funny. It's the wireless charging that made me choose to 5 IV. Different strokes for different folks. 😄
@@Applerumcake yeah different priorities i guess. But i think we can all agree the decision would have been a lot easier if it had the + chip. Haha
@@motorjack141 Yeah, that is a misstep. Asus leaving out the wireless charging was a misstep for them. Our whole office went with the 5 IV because of that, but we really wanted the Z9 because of its size. Unfortunately there aren't a whole lot of phones with headphone jacks anymore. And even less that you can put in your pocket. The Z9 would be perfect, but we use the wireless charging stands to conduct telephoto meetings at our desk. What can you do? 🤷🏽♂️😄
@@Applerumcake put a wire on it while meeting? Hahahahaha i have the s8 ultra for meetings and want my phone to be small and have great battery, i currently still have the Huawei Mate 20x. Hahaha
Thanks for your reviews man. Very good
I didnt try the Xperia 5 IV. But I owned both the Xperia 5 II and Xperia 5 III (and a bunch on other Xperias before that). Then I got pissed and decided to turn my back on Sony and try the Zenfone 9. I like it, although I miss the build quality of the Sony. What I wanted is a high quality, high performance compact phone, clean android, and great battery life. There is not a lot of phones for me, I dont want a chinese phone and don't want a Samsung, no apple also. I don't give a sh*t about wireless charging.
Also, I know it's not a big thing but I wish Asus would put a notification light on the phone. When you get used to this, then you really miss it when it's gone.
Tolles Video 👍 Mir ist übrigens beim Display vom Xperia 5 IV aufgefallen, dass es im Creator-Modus (im Vergleich zum Xperia 1 IV) anders kalibriert wurde. Unabhängig von der Bildschirmauflösung sind die Farben satter, die Konturen schärfer und die Kontraste intensiver. Auch beim Weißwert hat das Xperia 1 IV einen leichten Grünstich. Ist dir das auch schon aufgefallen? 🤔
Nein hab ich noch nicht gemerkt
Hi to all Sony users. Is it possible to use on Xperia 5 IV 1 physical sim+ eSim+ microSD card simultaneously? And one more question regarding the photos. Is this phone makes such grat photos in auto mode,or by using PRO application?
Thanks in advance.
1 physical sim + esim + microSD should work. You can get good photos in auto mode and great ones with pro mode.
I prefer Sony Xperia, I've listened to a couple of videos now and I think the sound of Xperia is much better than the Zenfone, rounder even though it's not that loud.
Thanks! Really good review! Well done!
I would like to point out that when it comes to gaming, the zenfone got the xperia beat by quite a bit. The sd8+ gen1 is running just significantly better almost having a locked 60 fps on Genshin impact while the xperia should have 45 ish with lots of dips.
Both is excellent 😌
The review is really helpful for me to decide between these 2 compact flighips. One question I'm curious about, what about the heating condition for each device? Does 5IV heats up fast and does it affect the phone usage? (Web streaming, camera usage)
So far no issue. If you use the camera with wide range or HDR or the external display it will give you a heat and overheating warning but nothing as dramatic as I encountered at the beginning with the 1 IV
A lot of heating issues only happens when you turn on 4K and HDR. If you strictly 1080p, there's heat issues but no where near bad. Even better if you don't shoot video. Normal everyday task seems to not have much heat.
@@joelconolly5574 I am more towards photography than video capturing. It's a relief to know that. Thanks
@@lltechview yes... The feedback of 1 IV is very discouraging. Glad to know that 5 IV is having a better start at launching... Thank you.
@@joelconolly5574 How's the thermal management shooting 1080p? I pretty much exclusive shoot that instead of 4K.
Nice review , sir! but I have to say that, regarding speakers comparisons, for me,maybe it's better if you use a different microphone , or just skip that demonstration 😉✌🏼
people don't buy phone because of casing and charger...I would prioritize battery life, build quality and how hot the device when operating may determine the decision.
Which is something that you won't notice a huge difference here
Thanks!
It seems that the speakers of the Sony sound better than those of the Asus, no?
Thanks for the really informative video!
Do you think the sound quality of both 3.5mm jacks can come close to an entry-level independent DAC?
Not really but for a smartphone quite good
Also note, some sellers have been selling refurbished Sony Xperia 5s for a long time now
ZenFone wins because of the non-slippery material. I'm tired of being forced to use a case because the naked phone is so slippery.
It's easier to hold the Xperia without a case. Try it. The Zenfone is actually harder to hold securely. and if you add the factory case back to the Xperia it becomes fantastic in the hand. Got both phones.
Alright I think I'll get the Sony. But a question - would you have preferred that the Sony had a plastic back like the 10 IV instead of glass?
a possibility
Micro SD card slot was the feature that sold it for me.
End of the video is comparing getting a free case & charger on the Zenphone to a better camera & expandable storage on the Sony? The Xperia is better, but more expensive. You get what you pay for.
Not to mention, USB 3.1 and video out. Sony is much better in my opinion, and I think it looks better as well.
Are you going to make a video comparing the 5 V and the Zenfone 10?
I don't plan on buying those two. Only if Asus and Sony send me the devices or people donate enough to get them
@@lltechview Understandable. Out of curiosity, why did you want to buy the 5 IV and 9 but not their successors?
@@cooscountysafety2764 Because they were good devices.. The successor of the Zenfone 9 is simply a downgrade and the 5 Mark 5 is great but I used my budget already on other devices.
@@lltechview the Zenfone 10 is a downgrade from the Zenfone 9? This is the first time I've heard this. How so?
@@cooscountysafety2764 Look at the cameras. Front facing camera no AF or 4k. Ultrawide cam on the back no AF or 4k60fps anymore. Main cam basically the same as previous version.
Thank you for your video! You did mention that Sony had a video out, do you know if Sony supports desktop mode like Samsung DEX? Thanks!
It does. But it is barebone. Too far from desktop mode from Samsung, Motorola, LG.
Nope
Thank you for this great comparison. But what is G cam that you mention to get for the Zenfone?
GCam is the google camera. See my other video here: ruclips.net/video/nupkELMJck4/видео.html
xperia is already best looking phone if u instal nova luncher and set up your android in best possible way phone will be totaly easy to use and so on
Nice review, but i picked Zenfone 9 over Xperia 5 IV due to the value that Asus offers in a package. I mean if Sony had released in earlier and sale them slightly cheaper (consider they didn't offer anything in the box), then I would had consider Xperia 5 IV. I have to admit that Asus does have some work to done especially in the camera software department (and I still hope they will extend the security updates by at least an additional year or 2, make it same as Sony), but I still really enjoy using the Zenfone 9, not to mention that the charging brick included in the Zenfone 9 can be used to charge my ROG laptop as well :)
Any eye strain issues like apple OLED?
I would pick the Xperia if it was the same size of the Zenfone.
Do you think the Xperia is too small? As it really feels smaller than the Zenfone thanks to the slimmer profile and narrower design
Thanks bro for the comparison.
Do you have any thermal issue when filming/taking pictures? Still deciding go for 5iv or 1iv, not a game player, just a everyday user...
Did not experience any but keep in mind every smartphone overheats at one point if you film long enough in high quality 4k video and high framerate
@@lltechview Yay, I don't really need 4K filming tbh. Just saw quite a lot of reviews saying even running in lower resolution still have issues, that gave me a pause...
Many thanks for your great review 🙏
Thank you! Regarding the compact factor - which one for you is better to carry in the pocket (heat, non-slip etc) and easier to wield, especially with one hand. Imagine you're traveling and often have only one hand free to quickly look up things text or take photos, which of the devices is more effective here?
Actually I used both like this without issue. I still am undecided. I like the Xperias slimmer width but the Zenfone's back feels so good
@@lltechview to be completely honest, with a Pixel 4a, in not entirely sure if those devices rectify the price. Only if you need extreme gaming, or are serious about photography ;)
Hi. May I know is the overheating issue on Tue xperia 5 IV really that worse? Or has Sony improved the temperature control?
I personally had no big overheating issues. No update arrived yet
@@lltechview Is is possible to make a video with 5 IV with normal setting 4k video? Just to know how long you can recording
Please Compare Sony Xperia 5 iv vs IPhone 14 Pro Max Camera Comparison.... Waiting Bro
I would have considered the Sony if they were available in the Australian market
Dont care about sd card, wireless charging, heapdhone jack. I care processor and battery life. Asus win.
I have to say you only review phones I'm also interested in.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
It would be so easy if the zenfone had that sd slot
Thanks for the comparison. At 21:12 you say the Sony is grippy but at the start you say it is slippery due to the glass back?
Yeah maybe poor choice of words. You can grip it easily as you are able to wrap your hand around it more easily. The back is slippery though.
Xperia is better than the Zenfone 9 except in battery and maybe performances. I would say that i would go for the Zenfone 9 because i'm not gonna need a great photo sensor, and battery life is important !
I'll still pick Xperia for future proofing
Great review, seein how ya left it up to the comments..it eaz a close call...it seems no matter what phone vs comparisons..one does. One does not, one does not does great in other things...brands luv that shit ..it keeps buyers thinking, no mattter what...ive looked at both of these phones for purchase....i still dont know what phone im goin to choose, price has come down with the sony, but like apple phones, it doeznt stop with needing more.money in there bank accounts, which i fully despize...asus eas ready to go outta the box...great review by ya..TP....peace
Could you do a soundtest between the Sony Xperia 1 IV and 5 IV?
Yeah
Both are very similar
Sorry another hard pass for me for Sony. I bought Xperia 1 III couple months ago but I was not impressed, I only liked the 4K screen and camera but battery life was dismal and I don't like UI. I'm a Sony fanboy I like their products especially the Alpha A7 cameras that I use professionally and personally but not yet with the Xperia. I would have loved the Asus Zenfone 9 to have wireless charging and microSD card expansion.
I guess I'll keep my LG G8 for now.
Great thing is they fixed short battery life with the Mark 4 series. So 5 IV is really a beast in terms of battery life.
Hallo, sehr schönes Video, danke dafür. :)
Kannst du mir bitte genauer erklären, was du mit gcam meinst? Im Playstore finde ich at hoc nicht, was du meinst. Vielen Dank im Voraus.
Die Google Camera findet sich dort nicht. Nur im erwähnten Telegram Kanal kann man diese direkt vom Autor angepasst für das Zenfone 9 runterladen.
Es ist eine Modifikation der offiziellen Google Camera App für Pixel Smartphones
I have never used side mounted fingerprint sensor (cum power button) in past. Hence a question:
If I touch/press the button once, does it only wake up the phone or unlocks it completely? I frequently wake up my phone without unlocking it, to see time, notifications, etc. Can I do it in Zenphone/Xperia with a fingerprint cum power button?
If you use another finger it will wake to lockscreen otherwise might unlock as the sensor are fast reading your fingerprint
@@lltechview if I use another (non registered) finger, will it wake up on touch or press?
@@gS-kt2ff press
Great review! one thing though, zenfone9 is stated to have UFS 3.1 on Asus website. is this similar to USB 3.1 or sumtin different.?
It is something different. It is the internal flash memory specification.
USB on the Zenfone 9 is sadly only 2.0
@@lltechview wow. Quick reply lol. Noted. Thanks 👍
btw i got the 5ii and its 70mm telelens. does the 5 iv make better zoom shots at that range or even further? it feels a bit like a downgrade to me from sony :( and especially with the 5v no telelens at all :(. what is your opinion on that? i saw some video saying that the 5v even has better zoom shots then the iv but i saw another video again at which they show the zoom shots and the iv seems better. i really hope this year the 5 series will have a telelens again. (i secretly hope a telelens like the 5iii but probably they will not do that :(
I was not able to test it. But yeah 2x or 2.5x zoom should be better from the sensor crop alone than a dedicated tele lense with smaller sensor.
At what angle is the polarization of both screens? Look at the screen through your sunglasses (or a camera polarization filter) and rotate until you no longer see the screen. Is the polarization diagonal, portrait or landscape?
Can either phone use multiple cameras simultaneously?
Are there Problems with overheating with the Xperia 5 IV Device?
I onlynhad it show me the overheating sign adter over 12 minites 4k 30fps recording with the vlogging monitor indoors 24°C.
No other issue so far in every day to day usage
Sony didn't manage to tame that dragon, the thinner chassis makes it harder to cool the phone, it heats up especially when using the camera and cuts you off when recording sometimes even shorter vid clips. Watch Michael Fisher's & Juan Bagnell's review you'll see, I think Sony should make an upper midranger with either SD 778G or 870/875, these 8/8+ Gens are very innefficient.
I saw those but they were definitely on preproduction devices. Means different software and probably also hardware.
@@lltechview Oh that's nice to hear, so they no longer suffer from that?
@@MrJoshkm I did not experience any shutdown of overheating. Only had one overheating warning when recording indoors at 24°C with the Vlog Monitor. Though I was able to record my 15 minutes of video just fine.
@@lltechview Seems the problem has not gone away, 24°c is quite low for it to give that warning.
It's hard to make out audio quality during the speaker test. Maybe consider an alternative recording setup? The sound isn't clear for both phones, which I doubt is the case if heard in person.
I am open for suggestions
Some phones on their own should have clearer audio capture. That is the cheapest. If you are willing to spend, a broadcast quality microphone is nice. I have been looking at Elgato Wave 3 personally, though it connects to USB and is a mic for a PC/laptop. Not sure if there are portable microphones other than Zoom that are used for recording. I used Takstar Pro 82 headphones to monitor the sound test you made, I suspect the lapel mic might have something to do with the poor audio quality.
@@adminuser5312 The lapel mic is one of the best sounding ones with stereo support I tested so far. The Zoom H2N might be an idea but in the past with its internal mics it was not convincing to me. Maybe I can retest this at one point
@@lltechview perhaps hold your lavalier mic slightly further, it sounded to me like the audio was clipping (or close to)
maybe 2 things you missed are:
- sony's own one handed mode.
- lowest sound level (i live in old student house and its nice if the sound at night is low af but still hearable)
What i personaly would like to know about the xperia 5 iv is if you use native camera app in standard camera mode with burst on if its still possible to shoot single photos with the shutter button. I cant seem to get this on my xperia 5ii. they should have put 1 second delay between single and burst shot when holding the shutter button for that XD
Yeah the burst will always take bursts
did they fixed those issues with a native camera?
I was trying to fix my v60, but I accidentally broke the cable to the cellular antenna. Now it's basically an ipod. So, I preordered the Xperia 5
hola. tengo el v60. merece la pena cambiarlo por el 5iv? tiene problemas de sobrecalentamiento? un saludo
@@FRSan91 Todavía no la tengo, ya que todavía está en preventa. estima que llegue el 27 o 28 de octubre
@@ssanc6 yo estoy contento en todo del v60 pero el tamaño me tiene arto....y ya no hay telefonos con jack 3.5 y micro sd
Honestly love my zenfone 9, but non expandable storage is annoying since a 5th of my storage is taken by my music, I have to keep my emulator roms on a usb-c thumb drive, and I have to pay for cloud storage for photos but I usually just transfer most of my photos to my tablet or old icloud. I wanted a phone with a headphone jack and it works great, but expandable storage is a must so if the 10 doesn't have that I'm switching to Sony
has there been any change in the thermal performance of the 5 iv since you first got it, similar to how the 1 iv was improved from updates?
I did not get any update yet
Hello. Help tell me please. I shoot a lot of car inspections before buying. I choose cars for people. I want to buy myself a phone with a good video camera. just to make the video shoot well. I love the compact size. can't choose between phones - Asus ZenFone 9 vs iPhone 13 mini vs iPhone 13? What would you suggest?
Is Led notification have few colours to each app like on the older xperias?
Hello,.I saw a video where they say that the refresh rate of the Xperia 5 IV suddenly drops to 60 hhz, it that happened to you?
Never happened to me so far
Expandable storage SD card slot that a huge win for Sony tbh my requirement is a headphone jack and a micro SD card slot
Question please: Is it possible to program the double-tap to open the Gcam?
Sadly not on the back double tap. But the power key double press can open up any app.
@@lltechview Thank you so much!
Can the power-double-press get the Gcam on even from sleep mode?
I'm really torn between last year's SX5III and the ZF9
My priorities are: compact, quick-draw camera, quality camera (auto is fine too), as well as headphone jack.
What do you think the lack of SD card on the ZF9?
@@danaltaras1095 Yes that works. Both are good phones. I like the Zenfone a lot but especially when it comes to the camera the Xperia 5 IV is better. I would say also the 5 III should perform better with its newest software.
Love the 5 mark iv color
I would like to know which one feels hotter during use.
Sony. Definitely.
The Xperia
Did Sony 5 iv got Android 14 already?
It should. For my device it did not arrive yet.
Xperia wins but because of the price difference Zenfone 9 is a great choice and maybe more people would be interested in it 🤔
Hi there again!
Can we please have somewhere the latest pro versions+camera app for 5ii
I think they should be available on apkmirror. Just search there please.
Does the Zenfone 9 have Bypass charging feature when gaming, which is available in Sony and ROG phones?
I did not see this in settings or game geniee
No word on software updates? Just compared the specs☹️
I missed that. In terms of software updates both are on par. 2 big Android upgrades and 3-4 years security updates
can the sony do dual physical sim instead of SD card like previous sony's?
Nope
@@lltechview Thanks for answering! one more question, how doe the haptics on the 5IV compare to the 1IV and 1iii?
@@yahnomega 1 IV and 5 IV are basically the same. Generations better than on the 1 III
The IV series takes 1 physical sim and 1 eSIM + the SD card
5:00 like a shuriken hahaha, thanks for the video.
Longest battery?
Hello all, I'm hoping someone can help me. I'm lucky enough to have the 1 iv and think it's great.
However, now that summer has arrived I've started having overheating issues which cause fast battery drain and call signal drops. Given that I use it for work, I really just need the most reliable phone for battery, call quality and software reliability. I was thinking of the ZenFone 9 being a good option, or will I have problems with any phone?
Thanks all, Rob
All phones overheat at one point. Gaming phones with dedicated active fans will help a lot and work much better in hot summer days.
@@lltechview Thanks for your reply. I wouldn't mind the phone overheating, but it's a phone and when it overheats I can't make phone calls.
I don't even run it hard, I use 60fps and never shoot 4k, I just want a stable phone with good battery life and great phone calls. I just can't find one and it makes no sense.
@@robertharvey7272 Yeah you are right.
I'm new to using a quality camera phone, where can I find Gcam software and is it easy to install?
See my other gcam on Zenfone 9 video
It must be an Xperia thing,'cause I always flip my XZ1 Compact in that exact way when getting it out from the pocket! 🤣
Do you still use it or has it been replaced? If so, by which one? I am struggling to replace it with the 5 III.
@@Metaxas360 may I ask why you are struggling?
Anyway, I replaced it with a Xperia 5 IV. I'm satisfied but I'm waiting for a new UI with Android 14. My old XZ1 Compact with Android 9 has almost a better UI experience than the actual Android 13 on 5 IV (e.g there's no. NFC switch among the top menu buttons)
@@mennio100 biggest issue is the size. I mean even though the Sony 5 is a rare species of compact phones nowadays, its size is still quite big compared to the xz1c. It is no single handed phone. At least not for me. Also 21:9 is not really useful. I think reason for that is Sonys extraordinary taste but also the battery that requires space. And width is a key point for compactness. In most cases you watch 16:9 footage and photos are shot also in that format.
I agree about the UI. The xz1c is still almost perfect. LED could be also brighter. Speaker a bit louder. And where is the standard gallery? I installed old apk to still have it.
I wish they would just bring a 5 compact in 16:9 :D
Argh, I don't know.
What do you prefer on the 5 above the xz1c (features, etc) ?
@@Metaxas360 I agree with you on the form factor, there are too many apps and too much video content not optimized for it .
Anyway, the display is the most sensible improvement coming from my XZ1c (It's also my very first OLED device) . Then there are the speakers...my god, the Dolby Atmos feature is really impressive
before i had z1 compact and xz1 compact and now i have terrible zenfone 8. My choice will be clear-Sony. Never ever Asus. I had ramdump fail on zenfone 8 , motherboard changed and i lost all files, because there is no SD card i need copy everything to PC (just in case)
Good morning. Which one do you prefer ?
5IV
@@lltechview ok thanks 👍🏻
Did you get these battery life hours on 120Hz or 60?
120 Hz
@@lltechview that was a quick response, sub earned Lol. Also have you noticed any difference in the sound quality through the headphone jack between these two?
@@TheTito995 I did a test I think with the 1 IV which has the same headphone jack. The 1 IV won by a little
То який краще обрати на вашу думку?
I would choose Sony