Just received Orion 32+ G4 TB, and appreciated your video and glad that it's working well for you. About to dive in and set it up for ProTools and my API board. Thank you.
Upgraded my audio interface from a pretty good, but older RME unit to a newer MOTU Ultralite mk.V with better specs. Thought it would make a minor improvement. But I underestimated how much of an improvement. My ten-year daugher asked me what the new box was, while we were listening to a guitar album we've listened to plenty before (Hayden Pedigo's fantastic Happiest Times I Ever Ignored). I asked her if she could hear the difference. I was impressed when she accurately described what was better. Saying it sounded realer, bigger, and said that instead of the sound just coming straight out the speakers it lives all across here while stretching her arms widely making a circle. That was the biggest difference, more solid bass and realistic soundstage. These newer MOTUs sound much better than the older RME Firefaces. (though I know that the Babyface FS goes toe to toe). Kept the old interface for extra ADAT 4/8 to have 16/in 18 out with DC-coupled outputs on the MOTU for Silent Way to modular. But I guess it might be worth upgrading to Lynx Aurora 16, or Antelope in a few years, but first I'm upgrading monitors from Adam A-series to APS and spending some money on pre-amp and mics.
I got mine on the released day, and the first impression I had was the sound quality and clarity this thing has. I was really tired of the latest Apollo 16 I had. The Orion G4 has been a step up on the conversion and anything else. You can immediately perceive the improvement in the stereo field and the separation of the tracks 🤙🏼
@@christopherkechichianhey man, I had the latest x16 heritage edition and a x8, but after I setup the OG4 I only kept 2 UAD-2 Satellites to continue using their plugins. The fact that you get a virtual patchbay, transparent conversion, and more I/O for less money in the Antelope is a no-brainer🤙🏼
@@christopherkechichiandon’t believe the bullshit, I have both, and in a blind listening test they you definitely can’t hear that much of a difference, this is no more than some random ass guy trying to justify buying the Orion G4.
Love your content mate, I know this was about the Antelope, but the overall versatility of having a desk to route out and use the interface to think about what happens with your returns makes life so much easier! It is expensive, but the functionality can't be questioned!
Had to do something similar recently and decided to go with an RME Fireface UFX III and will expand it further with a Ferrofish Pulse 16 MX via MADI. Once you realize you need to upgrade your I/O, it gets expensive quickly! Love your videos, by the way. Thank you for being a unique voice in this space.
RME + Ferrofish 16 is great and cost effective. Everything shows up in Totalmix and works well. I just hope that RME made a 16 channel USB-interface that's not crazy expensive.
It's a neat setup, good thinking. I think I mentioned a while ago that I thought a matrix mixer approach for your effects might good you a lot of modular power to route flexibly. Using a high-quality audio interface with many ins and outs for recording and routing back out your effects is a neat idea. It might also be worth exploring patching the Zahl's aux outs to the Orion directly, then seperate outs back out to each effects, then back in to the Orion. You gain full matrix mixer flexibility. But the tradeoff would be extra conversion steps, and you'd have to go as low as possible on the latency (3-4ms?). But, could be cool for some sound design, drone, noise, type projects, where the cumaltive latency of 10-20ms doesn't matter. Conversion is so good now, that I don't know if adding a few more roundtrips would do any significant harm when working on music that's heavily driven by effect chain use/abuse.
This was an eye opener for me. I currently, only use a few pieces of gear, but I know that I need more ins/outs as start to learn new instruments. That is something I am still figuring out, but this was a great video for me to learn from. Thanks for always sharing your knowledge and inspiring so many of us!
I agree, audio interfaces are super important. Recently got a Lynx Aurora 32 and it's been solid. I don't use many patch bays at this point so having the studio hard patched to it has been a game changer.
Oora, can I ask if you are on PC or Mac? I’m looking at new interfaces and on paper some of the Antelope units look fantastic but I am just reluctant as their stability seems patchy on PC (I am on PC) if I am to believe a lot of the comments I’ve read online. Maybe I shouldn’t as there are also many people who seem very happy with their Antelope units. Yourself included. And in a somewhat unrelated aside - I now have my Overstayer Modular Channel. In no small part due to your short review of it. Haven’t had a decent chance to get stuck in yet but will do soon. It’s hooked up now.
Salut le launcher Antelope ne se Connect jamais au serveur donc je n’ai pas de panel mixer et même si l’ornions fonctionne très bien je ne peux rien régler personne ne comprend le Sav est muet je rage …..
I just bought this interface and a brand new Mac Studio m2 and I can't get the thunderbolt driver to stay installed. their customer service doesn't help. I have a ton of outboard gear and have recently switched from Universal Audio to Antelope. I'm extremely frustrated that I can't get it to work. Their software is terrible. Do you think you'd be able to help me set it up?
I basically love the unit's specs and it suits all of my needs. HOWEVER on another RUclips revew I just learned that because of the number of monitor I/O's this apparently limits the DAW buffer size to max 512. This makes the unit completely useless for me and I cannot crasp what on earth Antelope developers have been thinking... 😞
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Just received Orion 32+ G4 TB, and appreciated your video and glad that it's working well for you. About to dive in and set it up for ProTools and my API board. Thank you.
Upgraded my audio interface from a pretty good, but older RME unit to a newer MOTU Ultralite mk.V with better specs. Thought it would make a minor improvement. But I underestimated how much of an improvement. My ten-year daugher asked me what the new box was, while we were listening to a guitar album we've listened to plenty before (Hayden Pedigo's fantastic Happiest Times I Ever Ignored). I asked her if she could hear the difference. I was impressed when she accurately described what was better. Saying it sounded realer, bigger, and said that instead of the sound just coming straight out the speakers it lives all across here while stretching her arms widely making a circle. That was the biggest difference, more solid bass and realistic soundstage. These newer MOTUs sound much better than the older RME Firefaces. (though I know that the Babyface FS goes toe to toe). Kept the old interface for extra ADAT 4/8 to have 16/in 18 out with DC-coupled outputs on the MOTU for Silent Way to modular. But I guess it might be worth upgrading to Lynx Aurora 16, or Antelope in a few years, but first I'm upgrading monitors from Adam A-series to APS and spending some money on pre-amp and mics.
I got mine on the released day, and the first impression I had was the sound quality and clarity this thing has. I was really tired of the latest Apollo 16 I had. The Orion G4 has been a step up on the conversion and anything else. You can immediately perceive the improvement in the stereo field and the separation of the tracks 🤙🏼
I had a similar journey too :)
Which generation of Apollo 16 you had? I currently have the x16 and looking into buying the Orion Gen 4 for better conversion and more I/O.
@@christopherkechichianhey man, I had the latest x16 heritage edition and a x8, but after I setup the OG4 I only kept 2 UAD-2 Satellites to continue using their plugins. The fact that you get a virtual patchbay, transparent conversion, and more I/O for less money in the Antelope is a no-brainer🤙🏼
@@christopherkechichiandon’t believe the bullshit, I have both, and in a blind listening test they you definitely can’t hear that much of a difference, this is no more than some random ass guy trying to justify buying the Orion G4.
Love your content mate, I know this was about the Antelope, but the overall versatility of having a desk to route out and use the interface to think about what happens with your returns makes life so much easier! It is expensive, but the functionality can't be questioned!
agreed!
Had to do something similar recently and decided to go with an RME Fireface UFX III and will expand it further with a Ferrofish Pulse 16 MX via MADI. Once you realize you need to upgrade your I/O, it gets expensive quickly! Love your videos, by the way. Thank you for being a unique voice in this space.
RME + Ferrofish 16 is great and cost effective. Everything shows up in Totalmix and works well. I just hope that RME made a 16 channel USB-interface that's not crazy expensive.
Thanks for your kind words!!
Can you work at 96 kHz with that set up ?
@@atacamabeatsindierecording8406 afaik, up to 192kHz
@712Jefferson - how is this setup working for you? It is one of the options I am considering now. And yes, it does get expensive quickly.
It's a neat setup, good thinking. I think I mentioned a while ago that I thought a matrix mixer approach for your effects might good you a lot of modular power to route flexibly. Using a high-quality audio interface with many ins and outs for recording and routing back out your effects is a neat idea. It might also be worth exploring patching the Zahl's aux outs to the Orion directly, then seperate outs back out to each effects, then back in to the Orion. You gain full matrix mixer flexibility. But the tradeoff would be extra conversion steps, and you'd have to go as low as possible on the latency (3-4ms?). But, could be cool for some sound design, drone, noise, type projects, where the cumaltive latency of 10-20ms doesn't matter. Conversion is so good now, that I don't know if adding a few more roundtrips would do any significant harm when working on music that's heavily driven by effect chain use/abuse.
This was an eye opener for me. I currently, only use a few pieces of gear, but I know that I need more ins/outs as start to learn new instruments. That is something I am still figuring out, but this was a great video for me to learn from. Thanks for always sharing your knowledge and inspiring so many of us!
Happy to read that!
I agree, audio interfaces are super important. Recently got a Lynx Aurora 32 and it's been solid. I don't use many patch bays at this point so having the studio hard patched to it has been a game changer.
Lynx are really good!!
Your studio is getting sweeter and sweeter! Do you record or produce other artists in your space?
yes I do that too on the side:)
I’ve tested it yesterday. It adds top end to the sound. I much prefer sound of RME.
Hi!are u using vst plugins in realtime for recording? In gen 4 they remove afx section. Thats the main problem for me in this generation.
Oora, can I ask if you are on PC or Mac? I’m looking at new interfaces and on paper some of the Antelope units look fantastic but I am just reluctant as their stability seems patchy on PC (I am on PC) if I am to believe a lot of the comments I’ve read online. Maybe I shouldn’t as there are also many people who seem very happy with their Antelope units. Yourself included.
And in a somewhat unrelated aside - I now have my Overstayer Modular Channel. In no small part due to your short review of it. Haven’t had a decent chance to get stuck in yet but will do soon. It’s hooked up now.
Hello. What is the latency if you monitor the efx returns via antelope?
didn't do any scientific test yet, will do soon
Thanks for the video's but may I ask ? for the music you make why would you need all that gear ?
I do production and demos, so that's why I have a bigger collection than I need for my "artist" output!
Can I ask how do you manage MIDI?
Salut le launcher Antelope ne se Connect jamais au serveur donc je n’ai pas de panel mixer et même si l’ornions fonctionne très bien je ne peux rien régler personne ne comprend le Sav est muet je rage …..
I just bought this interface and a brand new Mac Studio m2 and I can't get the thunderbolt driver to stay installed. their customer service doesn't help. I have a ton of outboard gear and have recently switched from Universal Audio to Antelope. I'm extremely frustrated that I can't get it to work. Their software is terrible. Do you think you'd be able to help me set it up?
You are not alone. You should do better research before making purchase. Get RME products.
did you manage to fix this issue ?
Set up Reduced Security in Recover mode To keep driver stable
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I basically love the unit's specs and it suits all of my needs. HOWEVER on another RUclips revew I just learned that because of the number of monitor I/O's this apparently limits the DAW buffer size to max 512. This makes the unit completely useless for me and I cannot crasp what on earth Antelope developers have been thinking... 😞
will have to check that!
hi , are u using Mac or PC, if is Mac are you using via thunderbolt?, someone report that using thunderbolt your maximum buffer sample is 512, thanks
Im using Mac with thunderbolt have to check on the buffer samples
@@OoraMusic please check because someone report that the maximun is 512
@@ladanzzabecause you have 128 channels over Tb
You knock off a few channels and get a higher buffer size back
:) cool