what is the point of Mortal Strike talent ? Also, with such low cd on Revenge, Glyph of revenge might be a 'must', and the 3 talents of Improved HS used elsewhere. I would also consider the Mace spec instead of Axe (especially for humans). 15% extra damage, less gambling ^^
Hey, i got allot ICC dps gear, and dont know if i should just go max dps with my Fury gear + tank weapon and shield, or if i should equip my old nax tank gear
Bro, learning so much from your vids! Thank you so much! Keep it up! Right avenue I have been looking for. Deep Prot and Revenge Prot vids have helped a lot! Can we please get a Naxx run video so we can see how you tank with this build?
Hi Sir, I need a big favour. I'm a big fan of prot warriors. Could you please test something for me ? Spec to around 1960 block value(soft cap) and do a shield slam without glyph of blocking, on 80lvl dummy, then apply Glyph of Blocking, and do the same and could you show us the values in terms of block vs damage increase ? could you also do the same with Shield block up, with and w/o shield of blocking ? thxxx
Hey man great video, thanks for making it. I have a question regarding defense cap, saw yours it as 505 and you said that was capped isnt it 540? I'm trying to do more hit and expertise but that 540 def limits me. Thank for any info
Watched your first prot warrior build and love your energy. Now I'm back and subbed! Dumb haters below don't understand how strong this build is. May not do so well against casters but it's meant for heroic dungeons/normal dungeons when you're cleaving down mob packs like butter. Top DPS all the time, unless you're against like 10 casters but that's improbable
I found myself doing more dps with the full armed to the teeth, cruelty, and 3/3 improved cleave, i gave up 6 points in prot for Blood Frenzy (this seems to work better in dungeons, but also gives the blood frenzy buff to your raid for more%Phys done to mobs)
Yo MATOE! Can you give me some more coverage on gear as we are in to the first month of ulduar. I am having trouble pulling out dps and I don’t think my rotation is all there. Thanks man made me view my warrior completely different
I noticed you used to have thunder clap bound to S but now it's bound to alt-q is that so you can reverse? I imagine that would be annoying not being able to walk backwards.
Stance dancing still screws me with macros to save rage dump. Need help still with macros and where to get shields and weps. Was going to delete warrior until wotlk when I knew it would improve. Great videos new sub here.
Its great for solo farming gold as a warrior botanica runs can net 600-700 gold an hour depending on loot luck, revenge spec is amazing for that as well as pvp. Its underrated as you can do the BOT farm in just lvl 75 prot gear if u wanted, but best to have lvl 80 h and whatever else is ur Pre-Raid bis to do it with no problem. Was also a great way to lvl in UK
Nice guide overall bro, one thing i really recomend you t oalways try to be expertise capped even more important then hit on bosses cause if boss parry your atack he gets parry haste and start pumping you like crazy , that is a bug they shoudlnt do that i think its not fixed yet...
@@tomatosaucin but on a single target fight how often is it proc'ing? I run this build in dungeon and my damage kind of sucks on bosses. When shield block is up I can spam but the rest of the time I'm not getting many procs at all. Saying all this I'm not taking MS so that might be making up some of the damage
@@robertjones-nd8hz on single target it's really not that good. Bosses attack every 2 seconds (normally) so with 50-60 % bdp you should get at least 1 revenge per 4 seconds sometimes more. For fast attacking bosses tho it's huge Best threat for a tank comes from shield slam and revenge MS is useless. This spec is fun but spiky healers will hate it haha... Or maybe love it. Not like there's much to do for them in Maxx
@@tomatosaucin I love UA but it is a little selfish and lacks a bit of survivability that I think we will need in the beginning of next phase, stuff might fall over so we can pump
@@tomatosaucin UA’s aoe threat is trash compared to deep prot, it’s an incredibly self serving spec. UA is fun for you but it lacks all the reasons you would bring a warrior tank in the first place. Deep prot has great aoe threat, high mobility, glyph of devastate for fast sunder applications and vigilance. Tank is about supporting your team, having them support you instead is dumb. It is a crazy good spec for soloing though!
@@tomatosaucin Using that faerlina log is incredibly disingenuous. They literally feed him that parse by having the raid not touch the adds at all, letting the UA warrior cleave the whole time. And of course they have a rogue expose for him. I'm sure you looked into the log and knew this already.
@@tomatosaucin I mean in its small niche situations I guess? Other Than PW and bosses with adds that count towards parse (Faerlina 25, Anub, 4H), The build isn't really doing anything crazy. The build is fun though. It's what I used to level from 70-77 in Botanica, and it was also a blast in heroics.
defense cap is 540 is the 44 resil giving enough crit resist?
what is the point of Mortal Strike talent ? Also, with such low cd on Revenge, Glyph of revenge might be a 'must', and the 3 talents of Improved HS used elsewhere.
I would also consider the Mace spec instead of Axe (especially for humans). 15% extra damage, less gambling ^^
New to warrior. What tree do you recommend starting in when leveling? Get Prot all the way then work on Arms? Or is there a better strategy?
arms all day although leveling prot in WOTLK is a blast
Hey, i got allot ICC dps gear, and dont know if i should just go max dps with my Fury gear + tank weapon and shield, or if i should equip my old nax tank gear
Love the energy, learning prot warrior for the first time, thanks for the videos.
Bro, learning so much from your vids! Thank you so much! Keep it up! Right avenue I have been looking for. Deep Prot and Revenge Prot vids have helped a lot! Can we please get a Naxx run video so we can see how you tank with this build?
for sure
Hi Sir, I need a big favour. I'm a big fan of prot warriors. Could you please test something for me ? Spec to around 1960 block value(soft cap) and do a shield slam without glyph of blocking, on 80lvl dummy, then apply Glyph of Blocking, and do the same and could you show us the values in terms of block vs damage increase ? could you also do the same with Shield block up, with and w/o shield of blocking ? thxxx
Is revenge warrior still viable and what dmg output is possible with a bis revenge build?
yeah
Great quality! Perfect in depth vid, what are that addon that shows your avoidance% etc on your character info? Keep it up!
weakauras
Hey man great video, thanks for making it. I have a question regarding defense cap, saw yours it as 505 and you said that was capped isnt it 540? I'm trying to do more hit and expertise but that 540 def limits me. Thank for any info
yeah 540~ is cap. on revenge prot i play lower just for dmg. won't fly in ulduar
Resilience will lower your def cap, which is why DMC: Berserker is popular for UA.
thoughts on using the 2 talent pts from gag order on thunder clap instead?
can definitely do that
So no Warbringer? *Smashes phone and breaks skateboard*
I've been using this build since the beginning of wtlk...on pvp v melee
Watched your first prot warrior build and love your energy. Now I'm back and subbed! Dumb haters below don't understand how strong this build is. May not do so well against casters but it's meant for heroic dungeons/normal dungeons when you're cleaving down mob packs like butter. Top DPS all the time, unless you're against like 10 casters but that's improbable
what unit frame addon is that? it looks really nice
easyframes
I found myself doing more dps with the full armed to the teeth, cruelty, and 3/3 improved cleave, i gave up 6 points in prot for Blood Frenzy (this seems to work better in dungeons, but also gives the blood frenzy buff to your raid for more%Phys done to mobs)
kinda sketchy to drop that much in prot improved def stance is big for the enrage imo. but good if no combat or arms i guess
Yo MATOE! Can you give me some more coverage on gear as we are in to the first month of ulduar. I am having trouble pulling out dps and I don’t think my rotation is all there. Thanks man made me view my warrior completely different
soon!
@@tomatosaucin been stalking the channel for this update! Lol !
No crit% with those 2 stray points?
I noticed you used to have thunder clap bound to S but now it's bound to alt-q is that so you can reverse? I imagine that would be annoying not being able to walk backwards.
Yes!
Subbed, great guides and videos!
much love tomato warrior
video on your macros would be greatly appreciated!!!
What raid has no warlocks?
a bad one
Stance dancing still screws me with macros to save rage dump. Need help still with macros and where to get shields and weps. Was going to delete warrior until wotlk when I knew it would improve. Great videos new sub here.
yeah it can be tough but i have all warrior macros in a video on my channel with macros in description + in my discord
What are the macros you're using?
they are in my addon/ui classic guide
@@tomatosaucin thanks!
Its great for solo farming gold as a warrior botanica runs can net 600-700 gold an hour depending on loot luck, revenge spec is amazing for that as well as pvp. Its underrated as you can do the BOT farm in just lvl 75 prot gear if u wanted, but best to have lvl 80 h and whatever else is ur Pre-Raid bis to do it with no problem. Was also a great way to lvl in UK
mio padre 💯💯
Nice guide overall bro, one thing i really recomend you t oalways try to be expertise capped even more important then hit on bosses cause if boss parry your atack he gets parry haste and start pumping you like crazy , that is a bug they shoudlnt do that i think its not fixed yet...
Why on earth would this be a better build than deep prot in a single target fight? Am I missing something?
revenge 1sec cd
revenge is a 1sec cd. i showed my patch log and my gear is terrible
@@tomatosaucin but on a single target fight how often is it proc'ing? I run this build in dungeon and my damage kind of sucks on bosses. When shield block is up I can spam but the rest of the time I'm not getting many procs at all. Saying all this I'm not taking MS so that might be making up some of the damage
@@robertjones-nd8hz on single target it's really not that good. Bosses attack every 2 seconds (normally) so with 50-60 % bdp you should get at least 1 revenge per 4 seconds sometimes more. For fast attacking bosses tho it's huge
Best threat for a tank comes from shield slam and revenge MS is useless.
This spec is fun but spiky healers will hate it haha... Or maybe love it. Not like there's much to do for them in Maxx
I was annihilating shit in bgs haha
awesome!
This is absurd wtf
can u help with macro pls :)
yeah i have macro vids on the channel!
@@tomatosaucin thanks mate.leme check :)
It's not. And it's not great vs casters or caster bosses.
it actually is though mate. struggles a bit vs casters but will still leave any other tank spec in the mud
@@tomatosaucin leaving any other tank spec in the mud is a HUGE stretch when its an outlier for 6 out of 17 bosses.
Ah yes the UA build, the spec where you don’t let anyone else do damage in dungeons and perform worse in every way in raids except 1-2 fights.
what's it like logging in to youtube and being incorrect? :P i show single target and aoe logs in the video. UA is banging right now in NAXX
@@tomatosaucin I love UA but it is a little selfish and lacks a bit of survivability that I think we will need in the beginning of next phase, stuff might fall over so we can pump
@@tomatosaucin UA’s aoe threat is trash compared to deep prot, it’s an incredibly self serving spec. UA is fun for you but it lacks all the reasons you would bring a warrior tank in the first place. Deep prot has great aoe threat, high mobility, glyph of devastate for fast sunder applications and vigilance. Tank is about supporting your team, having them support you instead is dumb. It is a crazy good spec for soloing though!
@@akmetal574 deep prot def better for big pulls. Just got undying on my warrior and I did run deep for that
@@tomatosaucin Using that faerlina log is incredibly disingenuous. They literally feed him that parse by having the raid not touch the adds at all, letting the UA warrior cleave the whole time. And of course they have a rogue expose for him. I'm sure you looked into the log and knew this already.
Bro I'm sorry but that guild is bad
its a GDKP but even at the highest levels results are similar
@@tomatosaucin I mean in its small niche situations I guess? Other Than PW and bosses with adds that count towards parse (Faerlina 25, Anub, 4H), The build isn't really doing anything crazy. The build is fun though. It's what I used to level from 70-77 in Botanica, and it was also a blast in heroics.
Really helpful video dude cheers
garbage spec. When ICC and RS come out he would get one shotted with the lack of defense
still bis in dungeons
@@tomatosaucin Not in HC.
@@Narutofan825 stahp