As long as you dont change your gear ratio, the rpm will always result in the same speed. The bike might rev up a bit faster or a bit higher, but motor rpm and speed are fixed by your gear ratio!
Yeah. I realized this after I made the video and noted it in some of the other comments. What I was really doing was an full throttle max speed test. Before the upgrade, 6000 rpm was as high as the bike would physically go..and hence the 72 mph. Afterward, I was getting more like 6200-6300...which would explain the 74-75 mph. Sorry for the confusion.
Good info. Engines are air pumps and the more air you can pass through it the better the performance. I had a ninja using Vance and Hines velocity stack filters. Open with no box. The performance was great but the downside was no back pressure meant that I was adjusting high speed needle valve with changes in temperature.
I can understand that the bike might accelerate faster and might be able to achieve a higher top speed if it can not already red line, BUT, 6000rpm on the same gearing is still 6000rpm on the same gearing, logically, it can not be any faster at the same rpm, but COULD be quicker to reach 6000 rpm. My favourite colour scheme for that bike!
Agreed. If you don't change the gearing, it's not going to go any faster. It is well worth trying to get more air into this engine though, well more cool air at least. The big problem with the Himalayan is the airbox is pretty close to the engine. With the engine being air cooled, on a hot day all that warm air is going straight round the engine and into the airbox. I've noticed on mine, now that the weather is cooling off (UK) the engine runs a lot better. It picks up better, feels crisper and accelerates better. I've seen people who have fitted these DNA filters also drill holes in the side panel in an attempt to suck more cool air into the airbox. Also blanking off the air coming around the engine with something to stop the warm air getting to the airbox. With an engine that makes so little power to start with, any improvement no matter how small makes a big difference to the feel of the engine.
@@paulrendell8797 For sure, cold air is denser, and why inter coolers are effective. Its a tricky one for manufacturers to get right these days due to emissions, but i do recall the time when Kawasaki had issues with carb-icing, even with an ice box behind the engine.
Yeah, I suspect I was actually going a little over 6000 rpm during the 2nd test. The key is though, I physically couldn't go over 6000 rpm before the upgrade. Fully open throttle the bike maxed out at 6000. With the new air filter and inlet cover, it probably got up to 6200. Like I said, not super scientific...but I still think worth the cost. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm picking up a Rock Red 2021 model with 7000Kms on Tuesday and I'm very excited to get riding. I may well ride for a while before doing any mods, but the Iridium plug definitely seems to be a good starting point. Great video again!
fantastic! One side effect of these mods that I noticed fairly quickly is that the open snorkel makes the bike run much louder (as it's not as muffled by the standard snorkel now). Not sure if you'll experience the same...but just something to note.
That rear facing inlet is there for a very good purpose.The performance air filter gives you more air flow than the bike can use with the stock cam it's to lean to start.High performance filter and exhaust can even make the bike dangerously lean.The cam is what you need first.But keep the snorkel it keeps rain water splash and larger particles out of your filter.Just the filter upgrade gives more air intake capability than the bike will demand even with air exhaust and cam.
@@On2Feet I am loving the cam that is what should be done first off.Putting a good freeflow filter and exhaust without booster plug may even cause engine damage from excessively lean mixture.The cam first with the booster plug is best then add filter and exhaust if needed.You notice each improvement after that cam which gives a large and obvious improvement.
Yeah I saw that they have those, but the issue is a bit more complicated as the 2021 European model may not be the same as the North American Model. On the 2021 NA model, all sensors are now monitored, which is why I couldn't even unplug the secondary air injection system without it tripping a check engine light. I initially went to buy a "booster" plug and they have a full explanation regarding why it will no longer work on NA models...see here: www.boosterplug.com/shop/cms-2021_and_newer_bikes.html . The Powertronic "Might" work on NA models, but I suspect just like with the booster plug, it will probably trip a check engine light. Still, I might email Hitchcocks and ask if they know for sure. I'd hate to spend 300 bucks and have it not work. I am a huge supporter of hitchcocks and buy a lot of stuff from them, so will definitely see.
@@On2Feet Good idea about asking Hitchcocks. I'm a big fan as well, and DHL shipping they use is always delivered ahead of schedule. Our bikes are brand new, and I'm still researching performance add ons for on highway travel. Your video on the air breather/filter is great, and we'll definitely be getting those!
Thank you for stating your altitude at the end. I have a 2019 and it tops at 83 mph no matter what but being an old pilot... Yeah density altitude. Great comparison. Much appreciated
I ended up putting the stock cover back on and that smoothed the bike out considerably . On my Euro 5 Himalayan at 100 ks the mirrors were vibrating that much they were almost useless however with the DNA filter in and stock cover the smoothness returned and now I can tell the make and model of the car behind. I also hated the sound and it makes with the DNA filter fitted, and my milage has improved as bit. I got a check engine light a couple of times as well .. tho that may not be related. Try fitting the stock cover back on and see if you notice any improvements in smoothness and economy.
On my ct125 2019 i noticed better top speed with non ethanol gas . i'm getting a Himalayan in a couple days a 2022 with 6 k on it I will run it almost empty then fill with non E gas and see if it makes a difference. thanks for sharing
I've always been curious how the older carb himalayan runs. I spent a couple weeks in Hobart a few years back....and didn't want to leave. Simply lovely there.
I watched this with some interest. I’ve owned a couple of Harleys. They both benefited from a “Stage One”. They didn’t get a lot more power but they did run better. A stage one involves freeing up the exhaust and the intake then remapping the EFI. This process and the kits have been around a long time for Harleys, not so for the Himalayan. With this mod you have done and one of the many exhaust pipes available the only thing missing is the EFI remapping. As far as I know there are limited options for the Himalayan. What do you suggest?
Might have to check that out for my Himi. Did you also upgrade the spark plug? I just installed a NGK Iridium. Supposed to help with those cold starts and such. The gap on the factory plug was way over factory spec.
Good test, two seconds off 0/60 is nothing to sneeze at. Unless you have a gear ratio allergy. I am going to buy this air filter but a little concerned about 2022 fit compatibility. :-)
I've made a few upgrades to my Himalayan including the DNA open cover and filter. The bike is now more adequate and enjoyable on the tarmac but I have a concern about the open cover. It seems so easy for dirt, sand, and so on to get in there when offroading. Have you had any problems? How often do you clean your filter?
I actually ended up putting the original inlet cover back on mostly because the open cover was just so dang loud. I really didn't like the idea of it being wide open either. I probably lost some of the benefits of having the open cover, but I'm not that worried about it.
The Top pad is this I think: amzn.to/3zmVjI3 The Side pads I think are these maybe? www.desertcart.us/products/157859770-autologue-design-royal-enfield-himalayan-tank-grips
the engines in these bikes I have a feeling aren't meant to set on the red for sustained periods of time whats going to happen more and more warranty claims due to riding the bike over its designated limits forcing RE to build the bike better inturn taking a fun affordable bike to a fun not so affordable bike.glad we got ours at an overstock price . be nice to it from what ive seen it will give hours of enjoyment.
this motorcycle is a long distance cruiser, you can drive there all day at 60. top speed is irrelevant. I've tried this DNA air filter inlet cover, but the intake noise is way too loud. have a nice day
It's funny you mention the noise. I've actually temporarily moved back to the standard inlet snorkel for the same reason. The bike was just so damn loud with the open inlet. I still have the DNA filter in though and I still think there's a slight improvement.
HI, Just noticed you are in Flag :) I live there too (I own Huppybar, if you're familiar) ? I actually thought you look familiar?! Just bought a 2019, getting its bells and whistles together, enjoying your vids! Thanks!
Nice! Small world indeed. Congrats on your new Himalayan, and I have no doubt you'll enjoy playing on it. If you ever want to zip around on some backroads, I'm always looking for riding company too...just let me know. I've explored quite a few places around here....although I'm still somewhat novice when it comes to technical stuff.
@@On2Feet yeah, that would be great :) I'm fairly new with the whole deal, so I am easily entertained out there. It would be fun to get eyes on your bike sometime. I am in the process of getting it together for a trip in a few weeks and curious what you've put together as far as mods, etc. I'm usually around weekends fri-sun :)
@@On2Feet also... i just bought a Mosko Moto Rackless 80 set and decided against it. Do you know of anyone in the market for one? I know they've been hard to get hands on lately. Id rather transfer to someone local than pay for shipping it back to Mosko
@@lyndsayhupp2778 Excellent! I plan to do some riding this weekend (Before it starts to get too cold), so perhaps we can do a short ride somewhere. Let's chat offline maybe? You can use my alternate email: trower7 at gmail dot com
@@lyndsayhupp2778 there’s a USA Himalayan owners Facebook group that would probably be all over that, and also an Arizona group too. It would mean you’d probably have to ship though.
How fast you can go at 6000 rpm? If you don't change ring or sprocket (gearing) you will have the same speed at 6000rpm no matter how many hp you gain...
Yeah, I suspect I was actually going a little over 6000 rpm during the test. The key is though, I physically couldn't go over 6000 rpm before the upgrade. Fully open throttle the bike maxed out at 6000. With the new air filter and inlet cover, it probably got up to 6200. Like I said, not super scientific...but I still think worth the cost. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
How accurate is the speedo to a GPS? Is the bike excessively buzzy at 6000 rpm? I'm seriously considering a Rock Red 2022 Himalayan but I can't get past the feeling that a Japanese 250-300 is just as powerful and a lot lighter. I have a Yamaha XT225 and my 0-60 number is in the 15-16 second range also. And it will do 75 indicated which is about 70.
It is a bit tempting, but I think for now, I'm going to hold off as I don't really want to tear into my engine (and I would need to find a mechanic willing to help me do it - it's outside of my skill level). I think the camshaft also requires an ECU remapping.
It is possible that riding behind some of those cars (and the one camper) played a trivial part in some of this....but I will say that I've continued to have top speeds in the high 70's on the highways since making these modifications (and video) several weeks ago. All that is to say, that if there was some influence from drafting during this particularly test...it was likely insignificant statistically. What I'd really need to do to be "official" is put it on a dyno. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, I'm not sure...so hopefully I'm not giving incorrect information. I always try to specify that my bike is a 2021 North American model (which is definitely different than the Indian model and the European model)
I’m new to the Himalayan; I have almost 2,000 miles on mine. I’m wondering if riding at 5500ish rpm for long periods is harmful to the engine? I find that it seems very relaxed at that RPM compared to other bikes I’ve owned. Thanks for the video!
A single cylinder is best keeping at 2/3s of its max rpm if doing long sustained tarmac travelling... 6k redline, run it at 4k etc. Blip it open for an overtake and back down to steady.... they are not meant to be fast mile munchers
It’s false that the American Enfields are Euro 5. As pertains to fuel injection, all the American Enfields (even the 2022s) are still Euro 4. Booster plugs still work on American Himalayans and Twins. Ask Hitchcock’s. They’ll tell you. They told me.
Yeah...there seems to be a lot of confusion on this. I emailed Hitchcocks and they told me it wouldn't work. On the BoosterPlug's website they say it won't work on any 2021 or newer model, but then also specifically call out "Euro 5", which as you note, the North American model is not (It's sort of an in-between hybrid). What I do know, is that when I tried to remove the secondary air injection system, it did trigger a check engine light, so my instinct is to just not mess with it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@tmstark Awesome...yeah definitely let me know. I'd love to be able to put a booster on my himmy and get a little more out of it.. I have a 2021 North American for the record.
What altitude are you at. Just curious as my 2022 at sea level seems faster. LOL got my answer at the end of the video. Yeah 7000 feet is gonna zap your power output a little. I think 7000 feet on a 24hp NA motor will rob about 5hp.
@@On2Feet Yeah it absolutely does. 7000 feet on a hot day would be horrible. An 80 degree day and your bike would think its at 10,000 feet. Poor thing, put a supercharger on it. LOL
Nice mod but from now on you have to be more cautious while crossing decent water patches due to faulty airbox design some water might get inside the airbox because you have made it more open now..
Yeah...I actually ended up putting the original snorkel back on because it was just so darn loud with the open airbox. It still runs better than with the factory filter.
It's hard to say as I didn't really do a full mileage test pre and post. I know doing all highway miles, my range is only about 210-220 miles (which seemed a bit low at the time, but I guess isn't too bad at 55 miles/gallon) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@On2Feet You don't buy a Himalayan for speed, I've had 3 BMW GS's for that but find the Himi much more fun. I also fly a backcountry Stol aircraft which is basically a 100mph but like they say, "it's the journey"
Was what i was going to say. Ive been behind a sprinter van and my 125 feels like a 250, it makes so much difference with slipstream on these lower powered bikes.
I suppose it's possible. Since making this vide, I actually went back to the original snorkel because the open cover was just so dang loud. I still have the upgraded filter in though.
Helpful for me too, I have the same bike (color/year) and had been considering this modification. Have you seen TEC's video about their experiments with airflow with this installed? They have made some modifications to block air from in front of the intake and encourage airflow from below - seems like something that's simple enough to do, and I'll likely experiment with it when I make this upgrade. Thanks for the review! Here is a link to the TEC video in case you haven't seen it. ruclips.net/video/wW3w5cvIehA/видео.html
I did see this and it does make me wonder about not having the directional snorkel anymore and warm air getting in. It is also noticeably louder now too. I may have to engineer a small directional air diverter
Yeah I definitely talked about this in some of the comments. Short answer is yes, 6000 is 6000. In the case of this test it was really more about testing what the top speed achievable was. With the oem filter, I physically could not go over 6000, but with the upgrades it actually went up to about 6200 before maxing out. So yeah I should have as be clarified. Sorry about that.
As long as you dont change your gear ratio, the rpm will always result in the same speed. The bike might rev up a bit faster or a bit higher, but motor rpm and speed are fixed by your gear ratio!
Yeah. I realized this after I made the video and noted it in some of the other comments. What I was really doing was an full throttle max speed test. Before the upgrade, 6000 rpm was as high as the bike would physically go..and hence the 72 mph. Afterward, I was getting more like 6200-6300...which would explain the 74-75 mph. Sorry for the confusion.
Good info. Engines are air pumps and the more air you can pass through it the better the performance. I had a ninja using Vance and Hines velocity stack filters. Open with no box. The performance was great but the downside was no back pressure meant that I was adjusting high speed needle valve with changes in temperature.
I can understand that the bike might accelerate faster and might be able to achieve a higher top speed if it can not already red line, BUT, 6000rpm on the same gearing is still 6000rpm on the same gearing, logically, it can not be any faster at the same rpm, but COULD be quicker to reach 6000 rpm. My favourite colour scheme for that bike!
Agreed. If you don't change the gearing, it's not going to go any faster. It is well worth trying to get more air into this engine though, well more cool air at least. The big problem with the Himalayan is the airbox is pretty close to the engine. With the engine being air cooled, on a hot day all that warm air is going straight round the engine and into the airbox. I've noticed on mine, now that the weather is cooling off (UK) the engine runs a lot better. It picks up better, feels crisper and accelerates better. I've seen people who have fitted these DNA filters also drill holes in the side panel in an attempt to suck more cool air into the airbox. Also blanking off the air coming around the engine with something to stop the warm air getting to the airbox. With an engine that makes so little power to start with, any improvement no matter how small makes a big difference to the feel of the engine.
@@paulrendell8797 For sure, cold air is denser, and why inter coolers are effective. Its a tricky one for manufacturers to get right these days due to emissions, but i do recall the time when Kawasaki had issues with carb-icing, even with an ice box behind the engine.
Yeah, I suspect I was actually going a little over 6000 rpm during the 2nd test. The key is though, I physically couldn't go over 6000 rpm before the upgrade. Fully open throttle the bike maxed out at 6000. With the new air filter and inlet cover, it probably got up to 6200. Like I said, not super scientific...but I still think worth the cost. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
may be burning more oxygenated AFM can produce more horses at same rpm?
Riding behind that truck van would help with reduced drag.
I'm picking up a Rock Red 2021 model with 7000Kms on Tuesday and I'm very excited to get riding. I may well ride for a while before doing any mods, but the Iridium plug definitely seems to be a good starting point. Great video again!
Thanks for the informative video. I just changed filter and snorkel to DNA components. My bike now seems much more eager to accelerate.
fantastic! One side effect of these mods that I noticed fairly quickly is that the open snorkel makes the bike run much louder (as it's not as muffled by the standard snorkel now). Not sure if you'll experience the same...but just something to note.
@@On2Feet The additional noise is well worth the improved acceleration. I don't regret the change.
That rear facing inlet is there for a very good purpose.The performance air filter gives you more air flow than the bike can use with the stock cam it's to lean to start.High performance filter and exhaust can even make the bike dangerously lean.The cam is what you need first.But keep the snorkel it keeps rain water splash and larger particles out of your filter.Just the filter upgrade gives more air intake capability than the bike will demand even with air exhaust and cam.
Totally agree. I ended up putting the snorkel back on just a few weeks after this video. It was just too dang loud without it too.
@@On2Feet I am loving the cam that is what should be done first off.Putting a good freeflow filter and exhaust without booster plug may even cause engine damage from excessively lean mixture.The cam first with the booster plug is best then add filter and exhaust if needed.You notice each improvement after that cam which gives a large and obvious improvement.
@@On2Feet don't ride an open pipe sportster then?
Not having to rip off fairings and the tank alone, is reason enough to buy one!
I have a 2021 Himi and have a booster plug. ;)
Hitchcock's in England has Powertronic units for both the big bore kit Himalayan, and the stock 411cc bikes, so yes, they're available for both.
Yeah I saw that they have those, but the issue is a bit more complicated as the 2021 European model may not be the same as the North American Model. On the 2021 NA model, all sensors are now monitored, which is why I couldn't even unplug the secondary air injection system without it tripping a check engine light. I initially went to buy a "booster" plug and they have a full explanation regarding why it will no longer work on NA models...see here: www.boosterplug.com/shop/cms-2021_and_newer_bikes.html . The Powertronic "Might" work on NA models, but I suspect just like with the booster plug, it will probably trip a check engine light. Still, I might email Hitchcocks and ask if they know for sure. I'd hate to spend 300 bucks and have it not work. I am a huge supporter of hitchcocks and buy a lot of stuff from them, so will definitely see.
@@On2Feet Good idea about asking Hitchcocks. I'm a big fan as well, and DHL shipping they use is always delivered ahead of schedule. Our bikes are brand new, and I'm still researching performance add ons for on highway travel. Your video on the air breather/filter is great, and we'll definitely be getting those!
I just cut off the cowl/snorkel type plastic of the stock cover.
Does the same purpose
Thank you for stating your altitude at the end. I have a 2019 and it tops at 83 mph no matter what but being an old pilot... Yeah density altitude. Great comparison. Much appreciated
I ended up putting the stock cover back on and that smoothed the bike out considerably . On my Euro 5 Himalayan at 100 ks the mirrors were vibrating that much they were almost useless however with the DNA filter in and stock cover the smoothness returned and now I can tell the make and model of the car behind.
I also hated the sound and it makes with the DNA filter fitted, and my milage has improved as bit. I got a check engine light a couple of times as well .. tho that may not be related.
Try fitting the stock cover back on and see if you notice any improvements in smoothness and economy.
Yep...did the same thing. I didn't like how loud it was with the open air cover so put the factory snorkel cover back on.
@@On2Feet that’s good so it wasn’t just me … 😉🖖🏼
On my ct125 2019 i noticed better top speed with non ethanol gas . i'm getting a Himalayan in a couple days a 2022 with 6 k on it I will run it almost empty then fill with non E gas and see if it makes a difference. thanks for sharing
Hi from down under good info just bought a used carb model will try this been to flagstaff did the dawn grand canyon trip nice
I've always been curious how the older carb himalayan runs. I spent a couple weeks in Hobart a few years back....and didn't want to leave. Simply lovely there.
Good job!!!Thanks from Greece!!!
Thanks!
I watched this with some interest. I’ve owned a couple of Harleys. They both benefited from a “Stage One”. They didn’t get a lot more power but they did run better. A stage one involves freeing up the exhaust and the intake then remapping the EFI. This process and the kits have been around a long time for Harleys, not so for the Himalayan. With this mod you have done and one of the many exhaust pipes available the only thing missing is the EFI remapping. As far as I know there are limited options for the Himalayan. What do you suggest?
Might have to check that out for my Himi. Did you also upgrade the spark plug? I just installed a NGK Iridium. Supposed to help with those cold starts and such. The gap on the factory plug was way over factory spec.
I also upgraded to an ngk plug a while back. Definitely runs a bit better
Good test, two seconds off 0/60 is nothing to sneeze at. Unless you have a gear ratio allergy. I am going to buy this air filter but a little concerned about 2022 fit compatibility. :-)
I fitted an SF performance filter to my Scram 411 with a better exhaust system and its a lot quicker than the standard bike. No engine light came on.
I've made a few upgrades to my Himalayan including the DNA open cover and filter. The bike is now more adequate and enjoyable on the tarmac but I have a concern about the open cover. It seems so easy for dirt, sand, and so on to get in there when offroading. Have you had any problems? How often do you clean your filter?
I actually ended up putting the original inlet cover back on mostly because the open cover was just so dang loud. I really didn't like the idea of it being wide open either. I probably lost some of the benefits of having the open cover, but I'm not that worried about it.
Put the snorkel back on it is a very good feature and only nominally decreases air flow if you have a performance filter.
Goin by ur timer the 2nd run was 2 seconds faster to 60 mph.which is a good bit for just leting in more air
2 secs faster is a lot. Enjoyed your videos 👍
It definitely isn't trivial...at least that was my thought.
Enjoyed watch this❤️
Thanks!
What tank pads are those? I’ve been looking for something all black and non-branded. Great vid, thanks for doing it.
The Top pad is this I think: amzn.to/3zmVjI3
The Side pads I think are these maybe? www.desertcart.us/products/157859770-autologue-design-royal-enfield-himalayan-tank-grips
it will cool the engine faster than the stock filter
I thought this was pretty helpful. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Another interesting factor to consider would be fuel consumption.
the engines in these bikes I have a feeling aren't meant to set on the red for sustained periods of time whats going to happen more and more warranty claims due to riding the bike over its designated limits forcing RE to build the bike better inturn taking a fun affordable bike to a fun not so affordable bike.glad we got ours at an overstock price . be nice to it from what ive seen it will give hours of enjoyment.
this motorcycle is a long distance cruiser, you can drive there all day at 60. top speed is irrelevant.
I've tried this DNA air filter inlet cover, but the intake noise is way too loud. have a nice day
It's funny you mention the noise. I've actually temporarily moved back to the standard inlet snorkel for the same reason. The bike was just so damn loud with the open inlet. I still have the DNA filter in though and I still think there's a slight improvement.
HI, Just noticed you are in Flag :) I live there too (I own Huppybar, if you're familiar) ? I actually thought you look familiar?! Just bought a 2019, getting its bells and whistles together, enjoying your vids! Thanks!
Nice! Small world indeed. Congrats on your new Himalayan, and I have no doubt you'll enjoy playing on it. If you ever want to zip around on some backroads, I'm always looking for riding company too...just let me know. I've explored quite a few places around here....although I'm still somewhat novice when it comes to technical stuff.
@@On2Feet yeah, that would be great :) I'm fairly new with the whole deal, so I am easily entertained out there. It would be fun to get eyes on your bike sometime. I am in the process of getting it together for a trip in a few weeks and curious what you've put together as far as mods, etc. I'm usually around weekends fri-sun :)
@@On2Feet also... i just bought a Mosko Moto Rackless 80 set and decided against it. Do you know of anyone in the market for one? I know they've been hard to get hands on lately. Id rather transfer to someone local than pay for shipping it back to Mosko
@@lyndsayhupp2778 Excellent! I plan to do some riding this weekend (Before it starts to get too cold), so perhaps we can do a short ride somewhere. Let's chat offline maybe? You can use my alternate email: trower7 at gmail dot com
@@lyndsayhupp2778 there’s a USA Himalayan owners Facebook group that would probably be all over that, and also an Arizona group too. It would mean you’d probably have to ship though.
you should have included plug chops before and after air filter upgrade.
👍 👍 Nice video keep going
Thank you 👍
How fast you can go at 6000 rpm? If you don't change ring or sprocket (gearing) you will have the same speed at 6000rpm no matter how many hp you gain...
Yeah, I suspect I was actually going a little over 6000 rpm during the test. The key is though, I physically couldn't go over 6000 rpm before the upgrade. Fully open throttle the bike maxed out at 6000. With the new air filter and inlet cover, it probably got up to 6200. Like I said, not super scientific...but I still think worth the cost. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Where i can order ???? I need it for My himalayan
How accurate is the speedo to a GPS? Is the bike excessively buzzy at 6000 rpm? I'm seriously considering a Rock Red 2022 Himalayan but I can't get past the feeling that a Japanese 250-300 is just as powerful and a lot lighter. I have a Yamaha XT225 and my 0-60 number is in the 15-16 second range also. And it will do 75 indicated which is about 70.
Very interesting video.
Are you going to try one of the high performance camshafts on your bike ?
It is a bit tempting, but I think for now, I'm going to hold off as I don't really want to tear into my engine (and I would need to find a mechanic willing to help me do it - it's outside of my skill level). I think the camshaft also requires an ECU remapping.
@@On2Feet as far as I know it doesn't need remapping.
There is video online explaining how to do it.
ruclips.net/video/GHoqvbAnvEo/видео.html
I think thats it
@@davidroberts7490 Interesting...Perhaps I will look into this for next year.
@@rm_6943 you can order online
Drafting. That's the reason.
It is possible that riding behind some of those cars (and the one camper) played a trivial part in some of this....but I will say that I've continued to have top speeds in the high 70's on the highways since making these modifications (and video) several weeks ago. All that is to say, that if there was some influence from drafting during this particularly test...it was likely insignificant statistically. What I'd really need to do to be "official" is put it on a dyno. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
thax friend..this is really useful , i donno if it works with our Indian 2018 model...since they v different throttle body( earlier version)..
Yeah, I'm not sure...so hopefully I'm not giving incorrect information. I always try to specify that my bike is a 2021 North American model (which is definitely different than the Indian model and the European model)
wonder if you can spin that factory air cover to point towards the front of bike and act like a scoop? maybe force more airflow that way?.
Possibly. I worry about it pulling in warm air coming off of the engine though. I may experiment with a few different things yet.
@@On2Feet again look at sportster air filter placement?
Did you havta re-map the ECU or anything like that
I’m new to the Himalayan; I have almost 2,000 miles on mine. I’m wondering if riding at 5500ish rpm for long periods is harmful to the engine? I find that it seems very relaxed at that RPM compared to other bikes I’ve owned. Thanks for the video!
It shouldnt be. I used to ride my XL250 on the stop, 2-up with luggage all day long.
@@skaraborgcraft thanks!
Change the oil regularly...
Yeah...I am not sure... but suspect it's just fine since 5500 rpm is well within it's specs...and below redline.
A single cylinder is best keeping at 2/3s of its max rpm if doing long sustained tarmac travelling... 6k redline, run it at 4k etc. Blip it open for an overtake and back down to steady.... they are not meant to be fast mile munchers
It’s false that the American Enfields are Euro 5. As pertains to fuel injection, all the American Enfields (even the 2022s) are still Euro 4. Booster plugs still work on American Himalayans and Twins. Ask Hitchcock’s. They’ll tell you. They told me.
Yeah...there seems to be a lot of confusion on this. I emailed Hitchcocks and they told me it wouldn't work. On the BoosterPlug's website they say it won't work on any 2021 or newer model, but then also specifically call out "Euro 5", which as you note, the North American model is not (It's sort of an in-between hybrid). What I do know, is that when I tried to remove the secondary air injection system, it did trigger a check engine light, so my instinct is to just not mess with it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@On2Feet I ordered one from Hitchcocks a few days ago. I'll let you know if it works!
And by the way, the booster plug is working a treat on my 2022 Interceptor.
@@tmstark Awesome...yeah definitely let me know. I'd love to be able to put a booster on my himmy and get a little more out of it.. I have a 2021 North American for the record.
@@On2Feet Yeah I've got a 2022 Hima from Engle Motors, Kansas City. I'll let you know as soon as I get it in the mail.
What altitude are you at. Just curious as my 2022 at sea level seems faster.
LOL got my answer at the end of the video. Yeah 7000 feet is gonna zap your power output a little. I think 7000 feet on a 24hp NA motor will rob about 5hp.
Yep....7000 feet. I definitely think it makes a noticeable difference (even with the fuel injection).
@@On2Feet Yeah it absolutely does. 7000 feet on a hot day would be horrible. An 80 degree day and your bike would think its at 10,000 feet. Poor thing, put a supercharger on it. LOL
Nice mod but from now on you have to be more cautious while crossing decent water patches due to faulty airbox design some water might get inside the airbox because you have made it more open now..
Yeah...I actually ended up putting the original snorkel back on because it was just so darn loud with the open airbox. It still runs better than with the factory filter.
Hi, after upgrading the air filter did you see any mileage drop on your bike?
It's hard to say as I didn't really do a full mileage test pre and post. I know doing all highway miles, my range is only about 210-220 miles (which seemed a bit low at the time, but I guess isn't too bad at 55 miles/gallon) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
100kmh in 20 seconds. Damn that sucks. 😄
Yeah, it's definitely not a ducati ha ha. I still love her though.
@@On2Feet You don't buy a Himalayan for speed, I've had 3 BMW GS's for that but find the Himi much more fun. I also fly a backcountry Stol aircraft which is basically a 100mph but like they say, "it's the journey"
All speed tests should be done in still air. When you exclaimed "77!", you were in the *draft* of a motor home.
Was what i was going to say. Ive been behind a sprinter van and my 125 feels like a 250, it makes so much difference with slipstream on these lower powered bikes.
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If you drill some hole in the middle of the cup manifold you get the same result, money 0...
Will water get inside the Air filter
I suppose it's possible. Since making this vide, I actually went back to the original snorkel because the open cover was just so dang loud. I still have the upgraded filter in though.
Helpful for me too, I have the same bike (color/year) and had been considering this modification. Have you seen TEC's video about their experiments with airflow with this installed? They have made some modifications to block air from in front of the intake and encourage airflow from below - seems like something that's simple enough to do, and I'll likely experiment with it when I make this upgrade. Thanks for the review! Here is a link to the TEC video in case you haven't seen it. ruclips.net/video/wW3w5cvIehA/видео.html
I did see this and it does make me wonder about not having the directional snorkel anymore and warm air getting in. It is also noticeably louder now too. I may have to engineer a small directional air diverter
Also check out TEC Bike Parts replacement cams. They have a couple of videos on it.
Pure nonsense at 6000 rpm the bike will have the same speed as gearing has not changed. If the rpm go higer then you may be right.
Yeah I definitely talked about this in some of the comments. Short answer is yes, 6000 is 6000. In the case of this test it was really more about testing what the top speed achievable was. With the oem filter, I physically could not go over 6000, but with the upgrades it actually went up to about 6200 before maxing out. So yeah I should have as be clarified. Sorry about that.