The Truth About Performance Mods on the Himalayan: Worth the Hype? | FuelX BMC PoweRage NGK Iridium
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- I installed the BMC air filter, Fuel X Lite, PowerRage exhaust and NGK iridium spark plugs on my Himalayan. Is spending an arm and a leg for all these mods worth it? Should you get these performance upgrades for your Himalayan?
0:00 Intro
0:47 What are these performance mods on the Himalayan and why did I install them?
2:41 Pros of the performance mods on the Himalayan
2:51 Quicker throttle response
3:30 No more stalling/knocking
4:23 Less stressed and cooler engine
5:23 No loss of power under load
5:38 Exhaust note
6:37 Cons of the performance mods on the Himalayan
6:51 No improvement in performance
7:30 No change in mileage
8:20 High cost
8:27 Are these performance mods on the Himalayan worth it?
11:12 Should you get these performance upgrades on your Himalayan?
13:37 Why did I choose these specific performance mods on the Himalayan?
15:13 Outro
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A true guide. Love the way explained. Looking forward to learn more.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it 😊
Thank you bro for this video, was in much need for these explaination. Thank you.
You're welcome 🙂
Good review.
Throughout the video, I felt you hearted out all you got to say.
Good job dude!
thanks a lot! glad you enjoyed watching the review 😀
Falling for your honest reviews... Please keep it this way bro. New subscriber here from Nagaland.
Thank you 🙂
Good and Honest review Daniel.
We have to take the Himy for what we first chose it for.
It is a classic and smooth long stroke engine (unlike the new version of it).
Take care.
T from France.
Couldn't agree more. Thank you for watching. Ride safe 😄
Very honest review. Thank you for your time and opinion ❤
You're welcome 🙂
What a wonderfull content.... Really covered all the aspects on this topic i wanted..... Really appreciate ur efforts AD ..... Wishing more kms of fun and endeavours ✨✨
Thank you 🙂 Happy riding!
very nicely explained, clean to the point video, subscribed!
thank you 🙂
A very detailed analysis my man! Personally even I have a Himalayan and I I make content and I get asked a lot of why have I not put any performance mods on the bike! And what you said aligns exactly with my research it's a lot of money to put in where as if you change some of the small small things it makes a lot of difference!
Good content mate keep it up, subscriber earned!
Thanks a lot 🙂 You too earned a subscriber!
Thanks buddy! Let's stay connected! @@AbhishekDaniel
Man Abhishek, really like your honest response towards the mods you did, most of the other videos seems to be going behind the performance improvement even though there is no such drastic improvement on the performance, these mods seem to be more about the refinement and smoothness.
Exactly. Refinement and smoothness. That's the only advantage to these mods. And it costs a hefty price too 😅 Glad you liked the video 🙂
Very informative video.... True and straight forward.... Thank you very much....
You're welcome 🙂
Lovely lovely vid Abhishek.
Thanks for your honest feedback.
Ride hard, ride safe!
You’re welcome 🙂
Thanks bro for clear the confusion 👍
You're welcome🙂
Great Insights! Plase share your experience with the latest mods like TEC cam and alumiium rims
Yes definitely. Stay tuned 🙂
Great video brother. Nicely explained. I'm currently at about 40k kms in under 2 years. Have been itching on getting more performance out of this engine. Your video surely helped.
Thank you. Glad you found the video helpful. I think you'd benefit from these mods. Except for the top speed, the 411 will feel much better than the 450. 😄
@@AbhishekDaniel thanks. I’ll explore this option soon 🙌🏻
Thank you for sharing your experience 🙏
you're welcome🙂
This is the best video I've ever seen about Himalayan 411. Thanks for the info Abhishek❤. You got a new subscriber today !!
Thank you ☺️
Thanks bro 🙏 you saved me from the fomo. Now I will not think about it for a long time with my scram 411.
You’re welcome 🙂
Great points bro! I did most of these mods on my Hunter 350 and honestly, these are not MUST HAVE mods per se. These are NICE TO HAVE mods, especially the Fuelx Pro and aftermarket exhaust. I love riding my bike on setting 7 of Fuelx pro and the exhaust note is satisfactory to hear.
I’d suggest swapping the suspension of hunter with the classic. I heard hunter’s suspension is too stiff.
Hey, do these mods affect mileage in any way? What's your experience..
Lovely, thanks for sharing your honest feedback.
You’re welcome 🙂
Nice info bro ...I too installed powerrage and Bmc and found there is no performance improvement , thought of adding fuelx but after seeing your video am not going to spend money on those 😂😅....thanks for the info
IMO, the improvement in throttle response / low end torque you'll get from fuelX in addition to your existing upgrades will be very marginal. almost like a placebo effect 😅
You're a kind heart 👍🏼
Thank you 🙂
Absolutely agree with you.. too many people don't even know how to enjoy the bike.. techniques to use in off road. First learn to ride and enjoy.. then look at mods..
yes. primary thing to enjoying any motorcycle is to skill up first. only then performance mods are going to make sense. 🙂
To be honest, after 3 years, and I got all the mods with the fuel x pro. Bike is much quicker and I am getting much better throttle response and like you mentioned cruising experience got very smooth. This is my experience after using it for 5000+ kms. Worth or not, cant say but definitely useful
Thanks for your feedback 🙂
really nice video
thank you 🙂
Thank you for the review, much needed, Very informative, after your Video I am planning to go for the Fuel X Lite to make the engine a bit more smoother and remove knocking on lower rpms, later on get the NGage Air Filter if possible and see how it does. And would definitely not make a mistake to purchase all the mods at once and expect a miracle/ completely new bike. Thank you so much for clearly mentioning everything. :)
thank you. I'm glad you found the video resourceful. Of all the mentioned mods, FuelX Lite is the best value-for-money mod and the one that makes a noticeable difference. 😄 Upgrade the mods one by one provided you have a budget to spare. It makes the Himalayan a bit smoother and refined than the stock but won't make any big difference.
@@AbhishekDaniel Thanks a ton for your reply.. it'll surely help me in my purchase decisions
@@SwatejK you're welcome. ride safe 🙂
Thanks for sharing your honest thoughts...geta used 390 adv ;)
Waiting for the 2025 New KTM 390 ADV 😁
..me too...! But i ll hold onto my gixxer 250 for a little longer
390 supermoto....will be immediately bought ;)
Great video! I had a fomo now there’s none😂
Glad you enjoyed the video 😄
1:42 the guy in white T-shirt is me... Who also installed all these mods... But i had my Devil Evolution and BMC installed a bit earlier than FuelX, Powertronics, NGK kit, Rolon Kit
Hey! Glad to have you here. I had asked you about Reise tyres but folks at Torque Block convinced me to go for Maxxis 😅
@@AbhishekDaniel i actually got it from Torque block. The same happened with me initially, but i insisted that i want and will try Reise. Good on roads, excellent on wet road, Not so good on gravel and slush as it wont grip and will spin and slide. Im looking to change mine now, have clocked around 7k kms on reise, still 50% alive.
@@ugendar I have the same feedback from Maxxis also. Not much grip in trails and slush but very good on road.
thks bro
I would say you need the next stage with a Tec cam to help it breathe. A lot of people judge the himalayan on 1-60 times and cruising at hyway Speed's but it excels in the 2.5 to 4.0 rpm for torque and comes into its own on trails. I think you will find the bike has improved when riden in these environments.
I did install the TEC cam after I shot this video. I've been riding with it for more than 2k km now and I couldn't find much difference except for a mild boost in the top end. I'm going to upgrade the stock rims to aluminium rims, replace the 15t sprocket with a 16t one and install powertronics as well. Maybe these mods will give a noticeable improvement. I agree with the opinion that Himalayan excels at the bottom end and that's exactly why I didn't go for the Himalayan 450 and decided to upgrade my existing 411.
hello bro ,today i saw u in royal enfield showroom ,u came with ur bike .....i saw u ...yayyyyyy
Hey! I would've loved it if you said hello. 😀 Next time definitely 👍
Well said. Good content. I have the BMC airfilter fit and red rooster performace exhaust as well. I am thinking of getting the NGK sparkplug and fuel x lite? But yes all this was expensive and fuel x lite and sparkplugs are another 6k and 2-3k each. Would the airfilter and exhaust be enough or atleast fuel x should I add to this? Please let me know.
And I 100% agree so far just the ride gets better. No performance increase except low end torque is good and the speed range has increased for each gear change when compared to stock
The fuel x would be a good addition to your existing setup. It’ll make use of the bmc and the red rooster. Fuel x improves the low end and will run the engine a bit calmer at higher rpms on long rides. If you plan on modding the engine like installing the TEC camshaft, go for the fuelx pro. If you’re keeping the existing setup, fuel x lite is fine.
@@AbhishekDaniel thanks a lot bro. Much appreciated
@@SteveVlogs2496 You're welcome 🙂
I have all mods from last two years on my bs4
Hello sir…first of I would like to thoroughly appreciate your views..well actually very very honest views on this issue..I too am completely in line with your thoughts..I won’t be the one to tell you to install powertronics to make your bike feel like a jet…himalyan the way it is I feel is perfect and yes mods make it better but one cannot expect superior enhancement.
However I would like to add on couple more points to your “performance” regard….so I have done all the mods that you’d made to your bike under 10k kms because by 2-5k kms I was literlaly craving for more power ..by power I don’t mean top gear top speed power but rather a good pace if I say where I can just sit and enjoy…however himalyan being himalyan wasn’t like that…so I had made the mods that you’ve covered in this video first and then again the same response no significant change…then I went ahead and made a small change , however it had the most significant diffence out of all the 20k worth mods.. that was adding a sprocket 16t one in front …made hell of a difference and felt like a gem …next I took inspiration from on two wheels Ben and installed aluminium rims and to my astonishment it was bloody amazing …simply amazing!!..and then came the powertronics which just was an icing on the cake….now I’m going for the ultimate ones and prolly retune the ecu on the dump for optimal performance, that is adding a high life cam , a set of bigger valves and getting a big bore kit with bigger FI..let’s see how it feels!!…so coming to the point …it’s not the mods that the ppl or the media wants you to do because they’ll always be biased at least to an extent…and yeah money is a huge huge factor for all of us regardless…but when it comes to modding the bike it all takes some through research more than common belives of ppl on a so called “performance product”.. but it all depends on the type of performance enhancement you want…it’s not always about a bump of 10kph at the max throttle …sometimes it’s the comfort at city traffic or the smoothness at 100kph on the highways..that’s what I’ve learnt ..that’s my take on performance mods…you got to make the bike do what you want to do and that’s why you should do your part of the research is areas to buying what ppl tell…because everyone has different style and the way they like to feel their motorcycle.
I 100% agree to your comment. Thanks for the detailed feedback. I too got the TEC cam installed and I’m in the running period now but I can feel the difference after 4k rpm. In the coming months I’m planning to get aluminium rims and Powertronics dyno tuned for my setup. The big bore kit is very expensive so I’m thinking of skipping on that. Can you share from where you got the 16 teeth sprocket?
One thing to consider, when considering intake and exhaust mods, are "pumping losses". Indeed, changing the Map takes it to the next level but intake and exhaust changes don't fully rely on this. For the negative pressure in the cylinder to pull air throught the intake, it fights restrictions. This causes a loss in efficiency, prior to the power stroke. The same holds true for the exhaust stroke. The piston has to force the escaping gasses out and this creates a loss of efficiency. "Pumping losses" take away from the power that has been generated by the power stroke. It's like having a pro bicycle racer pedaling hard with the brakes on.
Is there a way to bypass or reduce these losses?
That's where porting, polishing and other restriction elimination solutions come in. That includes air filter and exhaust silencer.
@@AbhishekDaniel
I think powertronics piggyback ecu will add performance to bike rather than fuelx . Fuelx is majorly to correct the afr ratio of bike . Powertronics is much bigger game i believe in which you can control every single thing. Also, if you have any dyno test centre nearby or ecu remapping experts powertronics ecu is better option. I own r15v4m nd i have installed bmc airfilter nd aftermarket exhaust , so now to correct the afr ratio im planning to buy fuelx . Cant go for powertronics ecu bcoz i have no dyno centres or ecu remapping experts here in Punjab .
Oh. I think there's one dyno centre in Bangalore. Myabe I'll reach out to them and try to test it before I invest in powertronics. Thanks for the suggestion 🙂
I wanted something to solve the stalling issue let me try that NKG plug.
Just the NGK won't solve the issue. Fuel X takes care of the stalling better
After how many km or period of time you change the bmc air filter? or do you just clean it?
I clean the filter every 10k km
I saw a himalayan with all this performance mods installed (fuel x pro, powerage exhaust, ngk spark, k&n air filter, reise tyres-- more of proc spec accessories)which is currently 9 month old one and ran around 30k kms in ODO.. Is it a worth buying option as second handed? If yes what would be price range i may look for.. Pls suggest..
Also one thing is to check how long kms does this Performnace mods will help for Himalayan?
Since the production of Himalayan has stopped, the availability of spare parts will also become rare. So I don't think it's a good idea to buy a used one now from a service point of view. but if you are an enthusiast, then go ahead. performance mods will last the lifetime of the motorcycle,
Can I change my exhaust to red rooster or powerrage without modifying the ecu? Will it damage the engine?
I don’t know about the engine damage but just changing the exhaust will give you little to no improvement in throttle response. Just the exhaust note will be different.
Which is best xpulse 4v or Himalayan
By the good explanation sir❤👍
It’s based on your needs. Xpulse is best for off-road and Himalayan is a decent all rounder. Thanks for the kind words 😊
I installed the FuelX pro on my 2021 Himalayan because I got tired of the constant stalling at idle. I finally found that if I set it at 1, which is the most lean setting, I get no more exhaust fuel smell and no more popping and stalling at idle. So from a performance perspective, the Fuel X pro was worth every penny. I am able to control the fuel mixture and finally have a bike I can enjoy. But if you are looking for higher performance on the highway I would suggest just saving your time and money and upgrade to the Himalayan 452,
Yes, I agree. FuelX takes away a lot of the stalling issues. But none of these mods gives a performance boost even though they advertise as mods that improve power and torque. Himalayan 452 also needs to stand the test of time even though in the spec sheet it looks excellent😅
have you tried cat delete with your himalayan ? I guess a free flow downpipe would enhance the performance since you have everything else. Coz even if your BMC is taking in alot of air the cat convertor would be putting up some sort of resistance right ?!
Absolutely. Cat is the bottle neck in the entire circuit now. I'm having the TEC cam installed next month and will have the BS4 or an aftermarket downpipe installed.
@@AbhishekDaniel how are you sourcing the TEC cam? And do you have a trusted mechanic to do it or are you doing it yourself?
@@gautamr9 I ordered it to a friend of mine in UAE. He's getting it for me. I'm planning to get it installed by a mechanic in bangalore.
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I have fixed a full system exhaust and changed air filter for my himalayan should i remap the ecu or else i can ride to normally so that it doesn't effect my engine life??
You don't need to. If you want a bit more engine refinement, you can go ahead and install a Fuel X
You deserve many likes but I can give you only one
thnak you 😄
Best setup for a Himalayan is to get the big bore kit 471cc/500cc.... Best value for money... For the EFI model you need powertronic... Carb bike needs only rejet... Easy 26 bhp to the wheel... Edit: even the camshaft is a really good mod around 22 bhp to the wheel
The big bore kit is very expensive. I'd not consider it value for money. Although I got the TEC Camshaft and will install it in the coming week.
Get powertronic and try dyno tuning then im sure you'll feel a better difference !!
Heard from a lot of people who use it saying it's just a small difference but for a lot of money. and I don't know how to tune it also 😅
Excuse me, which iridium spark NGK ? 7-8-9 ? I don't know which is better, my hima some time is knocking or goes off when i start ... thankyou
@@manliocrinelli7359 part number CR7EIX. Knocking or idling issue might not be directly related to the sparks. Better to have the bike checked by the service center.
@@AbhishekDaniel Ok thank you.. my bike has PowerTronic, a BMC Fiter ... and the original exhaust.. . In Europe this items are more expensive then your country, We have to pay extra taxes if we buy in India. Perhaps the original exhaust do not match with Power Tronic. Surely sound isn't so good..If you go to a Service Center and they see what we did ..
@@manliocrinelli7359 Stock exhaust is too restrictive. It negates the effect of BMC and PowerTronic. You can get Akrapovic or arrow exhaust for Himalayan outside India. I think Hitchcock in UK also makes exhaust for Himalayan. If not for the RE service centre, consult a third party one and do a diagnostic run down on why you are having the idling issue.
@@AbhishekDaniel Ok thankyou... great. I bought PowerTronic from Hitchcock ... but now is outside UE... and 4 Viaterra bags from India, because the price was under the maximum limit... In Italy we have Mass, Zard and GPR for 300- 500€ . I must have one ...Thanks and congratulations for your channel
@@manliocrinelli7359 Thank you. Ride safe 🙂
Performance mods?.. Mods that reduce weight. 👍😉
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And yeah i just completed 1500km only..
Bas stalling is the only issue what im facing…
I just want to fix that thing only..
1. Ride in a way where you change gears only beyond mid rpm (3000 - 4000) and maintain that rev rage. Himalayan performs best in that rev range.
2. FuelX is the best bet when it comes to fixing stalling issue. Go for it.
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Bro just saved 25 k for most of the himalayan users including me😂😂....thanks bro 🤝
You're welcome 🙂
Modification is like a drug 😂 you can never come out of it, once your into it.
- Rohith ( suffering from modificatiophobia)
Couldn't agree more 😂 I think we should start a support group lol 🤣
@@AbhishekDaniel badly need anti-motodrug rehab 🤣
@@RohithArjunVlogs 😂
@@AbhishekDaniel update: got installed Redrooster, BMC,FUELXPRO,NGK etc... 😂
My Himalayan goes 140 i have used only fuelx pro and maintain as much as new
is it a BS3 or BS4? BS6 seems to have a cap of 120 sadly 🥲
Install tec camshaft the difference is noticeable
Already installed. Review coming soon. Spoiler - not much of a difference for the price.
I did all these mods plus a powertronics
Try the powertronics
Is there a noticeable difference with Powertronics ?
@@AbhishekDaniel i would yes but its not like a big bump in power but yes there is a difference especially in the acceleration.
I never did the top speed test on the stock or with the powertronics so i cant give you a feedback on it
@@AbhishekDaniel btw mine is a ktm adv 390. I also noticed the quickshifter getting smoother, the bike is less viby but gets hot
@@vishaalpamulapati7035 I think short stroke engines respond better to ECU mods. Thanks for the feedback. I will try the Powertronics sometime in the future.
Are NGK iridium plugs really worth bro...
As I mentioned in the video, no single mod will make a noticeable difference in performance. The entire circuit needs to be upgraded in order to feel a boost in ride quality.
Installed fuel x lite on my Himalayan -- no change in any aspect
exactly my point of the video. you need all these mods installed together to see any difference.
It is infuriating that they are fully scrapping Himalayan 411 and that they are renaming Himalayan 450 as Himalayan. Its like they are erasing the history of Himalayan 411.
The 411 engine is simplicity in itself. And for a bike enthusiast, who customises the bike to personalise, these kind of upgrades makes a better emotional connection to the bike.
Third, 411 is easy to maintain as the engine is simple in construction comparitively and easier to maintain.
Edit : adding a performance cam should improve the power a lot. I think sns has it.
I couldn't agree more. The new Himalayan is a totally different motorcycle and naming it the Himalayan is creating a FOMO among customers. That's exactly their marketing strategy. That's why I decided not to upgrade. Will make a video on that soon.
My TEC camshaft is on the way from the UK via a friend of mine and I'm having it installed next month😃
Sell your old himalyan and buy a new himalyan 452, you will not require any mods 😂😂
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I much prefer the charm and simplicity of the 410 aircooled motor.. Liquid cooling, shimmed valves... I PASS!
@@jdplatt7120 I'm about to make a video on why I won't upgrade to the 450 and you've said one of the points 😄
Its still not perfect bro. I am old himalayan owner. Test rode the new one. Honestly, except the increased power, nothing has improved significantly.
@@sambitkar00 I agree. I test rode the new Himalayan and except for the power, I felt my Himalayan more refined and torquy😅 Will make a video about it soon