Did We Domesticate Plants--or Did They Domesticate Us? The Answer Might Not be so Clear.
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Did humans domesticate plants, or did they domesticate us? Archaeologists at Çatalhöyük, a 9,000-year-old site in Turkey, offer lessons on how agriculture and other major innovations can yield unexpected long-term consequences for human society and the world around us.
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FULL CREDITS:
Director:
Regina Sobel
Cinematographer:
Derek Reich
Editor:
Elizabeth Brooke
Original Music:
Mark Baechle
Marcus Bagala
Graphics:
Chris George
Maggie Hubbard
Associate Producer:
Shelley Elizabeth Carter
Field Producer: Meredith DeSalazar
Interview by: Adam Bolt
Executive Producers:
Shannon Behrman
Sarah Goodwin
Elliot Kirschner
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This video was made with support from the National Science Foundation (MCB-2122350.) Any opinions, findings and conclusions or recommendations expressed in this material are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of the National Science Foundation.
Additional Materials:
Science History Images / Alamy Stock Photo
Jason Quinlan, Çatalhöyük Research Project
Vintage at Cherchell Roman mosaic
“Threshing Team at Prairie, Victoria, Australia with Traction Engine.” Original image by William Henry Thomas of Prairie, Victoria, Australia, father of Wally Thomas. Reproduced image by Bernie Crumpler. East Loddon Historical Society Inc, Thomas Family of Prairie Collection Agricultural Scenes from the Tomb of Nakht; Encyclopædia Britannica
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The Veteran in a New Field, 1865, Winslow Homer; The Metropolitan Museum of Art, Bequest of Miss Adelaide Milton de Groot (1876-1967), 1967
Harvest Scenes, Tomb of Menna, original c. 1400-1352 B.C., Charles K. Wilkinson; The Metropolitan Museum of Art, Rogers Fund, 1930
Sennedjem and Iineferti in the Fields of Iaru, A.D. 1922, original c. 1295-1213 B.C., Charles K. Wilkinson; The Metropolitan Museum of Art, Rogers Fund, 1930
Sennedjem and Ti harvesting papyrus, original c. 13th-11th centuries B.C.; The Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt
Persian Wheels all over Indus, R. Jalbhoy, Karachi. c. 1905; Paperjewels.org
avgeeks, DogPhonics, retrofootage, VelvetMemories / Pond5
Landscape with the Fall of Icarus, c. 1558, Pieter Bruegel; Royal Museums of Fine Arts of Belgium
Babur supervising the laying out of the Garden of Fidelity, c. 1590, Bishndas and Nanha; Victoria & Albert Museum, London
Agriculture: raking rice paddies in China with an ox-drawn plough. Engraving by J. June after A. Heckel; Wellcome Collection. Public Domain Mark
"... humans are very good at inventing things, but they're very very bad at working out what the implications are." For me, that IS the profound insight. As civilizations became more complex we eventually ended up painting ourselves into a corner -- Climate change. Do we have the global fortitude to work out the implications?
Moved me to tears. Serendipitous find for me. Thanks for this one, SA.
More like this please... Subscribed btw. I used to get the magazine but I'd almost forgotten about Scientific American until I saw this gem.
That was truly excellent! Academics looking at how their specialism reflects upon the nature of the whole world. More like this, please?
Domestication will happen automatically in some species, by seeds scattered accidentally (fruits seeds thrown around the settlement)or by otherwise, cuttings from stems(tubers for eg).this stage may not be formal agriculture but precursor.
As I watch this, I noticed the evolution of the symbiosis of music and how we need to be told how to feel.
What a great piece of filmmaking. Helped along by the score.
This was beautifully done
Very nice
This is certainly more philosophical rather than scientific. This idea of plants enslaving us was put forth in the book Sapiens. Not sure I agree with a lot the author has to say but it is an interesting idea.
very enjoyable program, subject is of much interest to me, and as you say about technology, when you work you should work smarter not harder, another words the creation of things to make the labor easier and less time consuming was important, and was good exercise for the mind and imagination of man
It is called symbiosis, we are in this terra forming project to gether! I enjoyed this however I had to do a Norm Chromski manuver and in crease the play back speed!
Very good. Thank you . I could have done without the music, but it wasn't too intrusive. Consider, however, pigs. They too were involved in the domestication of humans. I'd have to explain in a different venue.
I have been working with tree species, mostly in the tropics, for more than 50 years, identifying, gathering seeds and propagating in nurseries.
Flowering plants spread far and wide from 60 - 65 millions years ago, primates of which we are a part are perhaps going back 5 to 6 million years. I have had a hunch that we (primates) were actually invented by the plants as improved disseminating vectors and given the task to spread germplasm.
The problem was that we got into making fire, domestication of plants and animals and agriculture which led to over population and the destruction of the fertility of the soils and great suffering. Perhaps now is the time to become a little more humble and accept our role in earnest and start fostering soil health and diversity to find true happiness.
Pretty close Genesis 2:15
@2:13 is that corn/maize/🌽???
Seems to me the current big change that we have no clue as to long-term effects involves the Internet, Smart phones, social media, AI, etc. Never have humans had this kind of relationship with technology or with each other. I’m afraid it may end badly. In his wildly, successful book entitled Sapiens, a brief history of humankind, the author, Yuval Noah Harari, posits that human beings may have been better off in lots of ways back before domestication when we lived in hunter gatherer groups.
Before I hit play, what the title hints at is a longstanding suspicion of mine 🤣🤣🤣
Yes.
"Domesticate" comes from the Latin word "domum", meaning house. Who's the one living in the house? Not the plants.
You can't accommodate a continual stability mindset in a life that is inherently temporal. (without some serious brainwashing)
Damb sight longer than ten twelve thousand years ago, more like as long as humans been around. We have interacted affected plant life and growth.
0:24 subtitles say "owl" as its a dove 🕊!
It is the dire warning of the Mourning Dove, the shadow of the lost Pleiad, strange, that was the first wild animal call I learned as a little kid. The antecedent symbolism is shown numerous times, 21:32 is good, those Seven Birds in a Row represent the radiant of The Taurid Meteor Stream just under The Pleiades star cluster. In Sircalitepe, Two Bovine Scapula directly over a human grave is another symbol of this radiant, they without doubt knew of this space phenomena before we did in 1950! They look like Dodo Birds.
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@@bbbenj Autoplay, oops, same temporal moment wrong site (Gobekli Tepe) , maybe someone will know what I'm talking about from this video. Here is the video : GÖBEKLITEPE: 2022 Ancient Apocalypse at 21:32 to see the Seven Birds that I was told from the lead Archaeologist do not exist! Funny, the creator is sure they were doing shrooms. Sorry, it switched to a different video, I thought it was the same and it started with the coos. Anyhow, same discipline.
Most depressing presenters and music, when it should be an interesting topic, sad
No, we definitely domesticated the crops and the same time they become depend on us. Just like what happened to wolves, when they become dogs.
Too bad, so sad, the volume was so low on this video that it's unviewable.
The indegenius hsve never disturbed the planrt ecosystem. Apart your race, right?
Don't be ignorant. Humans are humans. Talk of race is Nazi trash.
Hateful brainwashed troll alert
Australian aboriginals used to clear rain forests for thousands of years by burning them down. This was a method of hunting, and destroying enemy predators. It has shaped present day Australia in a very serious way. Humans are humans.
We are all one race. That’s the human race. If you’re asking about ethnicity? There were many people of all different skin shades that began domesticating plants and cereal crops. Current research suggests that the domestication of plants and animals seems to have “begun” in the Fertile Crescent. Along the Nile. So…I’m fairly confident those folks weren’t “white” for the most part. 🤔
May I suggest that you stop laying blame, thus becoming a “victim” and, instead, start doing what you can to positively impact the present and future, as a part of the human race, by learning from all of humanity’s mistakes?
Nice try with the racist card. 🤨