Pickleball Even Odd Court Positions
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Finally, the definitive lesson on how to score " Pickleball and understand even and odd terminology " for those of us who need visual aid instruction. Thank you and ' God Bless your Heart ".
More importantly for me, your lesson gave me a greater understanding of scoring in PickleBall. It's an understatement " the hardest thing about pickleball is not playing the game ; it's learning on to keep score in the game " .
Thanks so much! I've been wondering how to figure this out.
Thanks for this video. I have been playing Pickleball for about a year and scoring related to court position has always messed me up. This is the first video that I have found that gives a really good explanation. It is still confusing to me but I will watch your video several more times. Thank you!
I think I finally understand this, thanks!
This was a GREAT explanation of how people know what side of the court they need to serve from or what the score has to be. The way you walked us through each point then explained WHY each player had to be on a particular side makes since now. I have had people try to explain it to me, but the visual aid was what did it for me. Thank you!
Still confusing but I will watch it 50 times, and maybe then I will "get it."
Great explanation. I recently started playing and still trying to figure out all the nuances of the game. Especially the scoring and positions. Thank you.
Thank you so much. I'm a visual guy and I was trying and failing to do this same exercise myself. My coach says I'm just hard headed...but this whole odd/even thing was not lining up in my head, and I was always causing the unnecessary fire drill. I do believe I get it, and I can identify not when I screw up, but others now as well.
this is so well explained....your video should be "the pre-requisite for all 1st-timers and beginners.....every coach/instructor should insist on their pupils to watch your video...thk you so much
Thank you!
Thank you for this amazing explanation. Perfect for someone like me that has to have a visual to fully understand!
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO! Everything else about this game is easy to understand except for this concept!!!
Well done! Thank you for this visual demonstration.
This is the best! Thanks for making it black and white.
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Thank you so much for this video and explanation. This what I needed!!
I was reading the rulebook (2020 version) which is as clear as mud. Thanks for the effort in making this video, you rock!! In summary, when a player serves in her 'home' service area, the score is even, odd in the 'guest' service area. The first server, of a rally or a game, always starts on the right service area, behind the baseline but within the imaginary centreline and sideline. Knowing a player's home service area and their score, we can tell if a player is in the right position or not when it coms to serving or receiving. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
Harry, you are correct. At the beginning of each game, I make a mental note of the two players stand on the right-hand side of each court. It helps me to correct scores when we lose track. When playing mixed doubles, I always make sure that I am diagonally opposite the female opponent, so either the men are first servers or the women are.
@@LinneaTucker Thanks Linnea. I was surprised but happy to see that in a game I played on Thursday, a senior woman who confirmed the score based on the opponent's original position...good memory
How about this: players only flipflop sides when a server scores. If you start the game on the even side, the score will always be even when you are there. And, the "correct position" rules (4.B.6.b) require it.
A+++, pickleball video ! ! !
YES ... this helped me help my players! Thank you!
Perfect video, it clicked for me.
When does the server number change according to the rule that states, "The server number does not always stay the same throughout the entire game."?
Thank you for putting this together. I makes so much sense. My problem is, in the middle of a game, I still get confused as to who is even, who is odd....Maybe it's just me. Kinda slow... :)
It happens to all of us. You have to make a mental note at the beginning of the game as to who the first servers are. I will also say it out loud to my partner.
Très bien démontré Merci
very good. THANKS
you used the odd/even court terminology which was great--many pros say ad/deuce court terminology in their explanations which is confusing for non-tennis players. as one poster commented it would help if you add the graphic even/odd on the courts.
if you could use your excellent graphics to do a simple stacking sequence video it would be great.
if you make this video, spare the omnipresent explanation of WHY one stacks. most video stacking explanations start with a long description of WHY it is strategic. we can absorb only so much new information and the main lesson is HOW to stack not WHY you stack. WHY you stack could be a separate video. Thanks again.
I try to always start on the even side so I know when I’m there OUR score should he even. But trying to explain this to even a fairly frequent player is often met with a shrug. Good explanation and visual though. Thanks. This was debated just last night with the comment ‘most people don’t play like that. ‘ 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ Uh yes they do.
Excellent video. I think your graphics are perfect.
Thank you, Tom!
thank you. that helps !
I had to watch it many times and pause frequently to see if the players positions match my expectations based on the rules. Eventually it did. The terminology is what is confusing your. There is server number 1 and server 2 then the there is the first server. They are different things. The first server is the person on the right side of the court as you face the net when the games starts. And they are called the first server from that point forward. The first server can be server #1 or #2 and will change through out the game. The label, server #1 or #2 is given when the team earns the server and is given based on their position the court. Who ever is standing on the right side is server#1. Their position is determined by the current score for that team, So if the score is odd, the first server is on the left side and is labeled server #2, and the other server is labeled server #1 and will serve the ball from the right side. Serve always starts from the right side, regardless of score or where first server one is standing.
If it helps anybody, don't get hung up on your server number. It can change during the game and is assigned to you when your team gets the serve. If you are the first server of the game, your server number is 2. If both your team and the opposing team loose their first rallies, You, as the starting server on your team is now server number 1 and serving from the right just as you did when you were server #2, since your score is still zero, an even number. Then the next thing to remember is not to get hung up on the term "Starting Server". Remember that if you are the starting server, your position is always dependent upon your score, regardless if you are serving or not. So if your score is odd, you are standing on the left side. If your team gets server "a side out", you don't server even though you are designated the "Starting Server", and you are now server #2 again. It is those two things that I got hung up and this video helped clear up. I hope....
So why is it said that server one or two can change during a game?
Thank you!
Great video. This definitely helps. Eventually I will get it. Game start was explained to me as the first server says, zero-zero start. I am not sure how we get to zero-zero 2 but points can only be made while that team is serving. Perhaps 0-0-2 is the guy on the same team serving second. Then there is second serve, the other person serves on the same team. So if my team has a point the score and serving sequence will be, I think 1-0-2, our point is the one because we are serving, 0 because the other team has not scored and I am second server so I say 2. I am enjoying the game. Hey, let’s just get a score board.
usapickleball.org/docs/USA-Pickleball-Official-Rulebook-2023-v2.pdf
Section 4J on page 26. 0-0-2 is the same as 0-0-Start.
Thank you for this lesson! Could you please do a lesson on stacking!!!
Thanks I'm a graphic guy. I get it!
Thanks. Joe from New Orleans
is it the total of both scores i.e. 4-4 or just the servers score 4 that must be even or odd
Hello, I am very confused how a player can be player #1 and also #2 in the same game ???
Scoring is confusing. Remembering who the very first server on each team is different than who is server 1 then server 2 during a serving sequence.
Thank you - It make sense now
Thanks👍
The PLAYER does not carry the 1-2 with them..
After the "start", the position BOX is 1 or 2..
The STARTING server will ALWAYS be serving on an even number when on right-side box aka: service box 1...
It's confusing and a mess at first but you have 3 other people who are there to help..
Nice job of teaching!
Thank you!
the first serverto start the game will always be serving when the score is even - 002 and the first receiver will always take receive went score is even?
when the server score is even --- not when the total score is even
Its better to say 'even' or 'odd' instead of one or two. Much easier to understand.
I’m confused...according to the official rules, it appears to say that the serve is always made from the side of the court according to the serving team’s score - if the serving team’s score is even then service is made from the even side, and if the serving team’s score is odd then service is made from the odd side. I’ve read and re-read the rules a 1/2 dozen times and that’s how it seems to read. Please clarify and please direct me to the rule that states otherwise. Thanks!
It is confusing. The suggestion is to follow the latest pro games and see how it works. I followed one and I felt the pro games don't follow what the rulebook set. At least in the community where we play for recreation, the rule we use is in line with what
Linnea presented here.
This all finally clicked for me after watching her video and re-reading the rule book... I hope!
Rule 4.B.6.a (2021 rules) says that the serving team always begins serving from the right/even side.
The player who is properly lined up on that side is the first to serve. I've just started playing, but it's my belief that this normally takes care of itself. However, I've seen videos of advanced players and they're switching sides during game play...as a tactical advantage, I suppose. So, if they get mixed up, these serving rules help keep everything straight. I think. 🙄
Late to the game - just recently started playing pickleball. Appreciate this explanation and graphics. 👏
Tim - could the rule you mentioned be for SINGLES play? That’s how scoring works in singles.
I'm like ok at math and I still don't get this I just go with the flow
So whoever is on the right side of the service court becomes the 1st server??
Yes - after each sideout. This is different than the people who were the first servers at the of the game that determine the odd/even scoring situation.
It would help if you marked each court with the words Odd and Even in your graphic. Maybe behind each of your players. That way we will have already established the concept before you start your game.
I'm going to hang a big sign over my head that says either EVEN or ODD. Preferably, ODD.
Tom sent
I'm still not clear about doubles positioning and odd (left side) and even (right side) scoring. So when the game starts (0-0-2), Team A serves and whoever is standing on the right side in Team A is Server 2. Let's say Team A scores 3 points from Server 2 then faults and Team B gets the serve. So in the Team B side, whoever is starting in the right side will be Server 1 and the one standing on the left will be Server 2. So Team B be calls out 0-3-1. Team B faults and the serve goes to Server 2. So Team B calls out 0-3-2. Team B faults again and the serve returns to Team A. Because Team A's score is odd (3) whoever is standing on the left side becomes Server 1 and serves from there (left side)?
Anytime the serve switches to the other side of the net, the first serve starts on the right-hand side. So in your scenario, the serve starts with the player on the right side and the score is 3-0-1. The score for team A is odd (3) because the very first server at the very start of the game is now standing on the left side.
@@LinneaTucker So when the service switches over to the other team you mean to say it always starts on the right side? So I’m confused at the other sites indicating that the service starts depending on your score. They indicate that if your score is even you start on the right side and if your score is on you start on the left side?
@@JCMeyer
When the ball switches sides to the opposing time, this is called “side out”
From Rulebook:
3.A.38. Side Out - The awarding of the serve to the opposing team after a singles player or doubles team loses its serve.
4.B.6.a.
At the start of each side out, service begins in the right/even serving area.
When the team’s score is even (0, 2, 4 ...), the team’s starting server’s correct position is at the right/even serving area. When the team’s score is odd (1, 3, 5...), the starting server’s correct position is at the left/odd court.
4.B.6.b.
When the team’s score is even (0, 2, 4 ...), the team’s starting server’s correct position is at the right/even serving area. When the team’s score is odd (1, 3, 5...), the starting server’s correct position is at the left/odd court.
4.B.6.c.
After each side out, service begins with the player correctly positioned on the right/even side of the court according to the team’s score. This player is referred to as “Server 1” and the partner is “Server 2.”
The starting servers at the beginning of the game (the moment the score is 0-0-2) is different from server 1 / server 2 during the game. The portion of the starting servers determines whether your score should be even or odd.
Rulebook: usapickleball.org/docs/ifp/USA-Pickleball-Rulebook.pdf
Pickleball scoring is so STUPID!!
Maybe you are too stupid to see the simplicity of the game. I always play on the even side so I know what the score is. Sooooo simple.
@@donpeterson997 after even side server 1 wins a point ..u go to the odd side..what are u talking about