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Okay, _BUT..._ Nichola Tesla is most definitely thematically linked with the season arc. The Nichola Tesla immigrant stuff is obviously thematically cohesive with the revelations about the Timeless Child when put in context of the whole season and viewed in retrospect. Ya, narratively it's divorced from the story of the season arc, but thematically it's pretty strongly tied to the Timeless Child stuff. There's a reason that they did a story about the Doctor meeting Tesla, getting on like a house on fire, and colouring everything with the theming of immigrant exploitation and historical whitewashing... before they did a finale about how the Doctor has a stolen history as an exploited immigrant child with the most literal narrative and visual metaphor for historical whitewashing I have ever seen in the TC/Brendan dual unreliable narrator juxtaposition. Shocker, I know, that both TTC and Orphan 55 are the 2 low ranked episodes for which I have much higher opinions than others... The thing is, that Orphan 55 was integrating the allegory about Global Warming in the whole damn episode, and the best part of the viewing experience for me was recontextualising what I had seen after what seemed to be a wild third act twist. The fridge realisation that the reason OTT characters like Hyph3n, Green haired mechanic and son, Benni, etc all do stupid stuff to drive the plot forward and don't really work as characters is because they are all doing double duty as allegorical metaphors for how different people respond to the everpresent looming threat of the Dregs a.k.a. the allegorical metaphor for global warming... hit me the next morning. It changed my whole perception of the episode from _"Well that was a fun enough Doctor Who-ish mess of a little weekly adventure. It was fine."_ into _"Oh, my god, it's the fricking Sun Makers again, but without the troubling anti-semitic tropes."_ Nothing is what it seems on the surface, because the commentary is so thick you could cut it with a knife. It never lets this stuff get in the way of just telling a silly runaround, monster of the week, base under seige, bog standard, Doctor Who adventure story, so the third act twist kinda jumps up and smacks you in the face yelling _"SURPRISE! It was Earth the whole time! Yes I just did the Planet of the Apes bit. This is about global warming sucker... get on my level!"_ I will freely admit that because of the way this came off, the episode kinda failed in delivering the twist and the allegory, since for alot of people it came off alot more like _"Surprise! Planet of the Apes. The episode is about Global Warming now."_ Rather than feeling like everything clicked into place with the final act reveal, it comes off as a massive tone shift with a flimsy narrative justification. Just like It Takes You Away, you really do need to get on Ed Hime's level and realise what it's trying to do to appreciate the episode. It's a scathing commentary about global warming denialism from start to finish. Like The Mutants being about Apartheid, or the Green Death... also about ecology... Orphan 55 is _not subtle,_ and I kinda love it. It's definitely a 'love me or hate me' kind of episode though, so I get why it's so easy to just hate it. I'm not gonna convince anyone who hates it to love it, because the reasons are probably similar, but the personal reaction and conclusions are opposite. That description of Gromit laying down track in front of the speeding train sounds awesome to me, so I loved this one. I definitely agree about Praxeus being underrated tho. It only suffers from being an also ran globe trotting adventure after Spyfall, and ecological story after Orphan 55. That, and it had to change the subject after Fugitive of the Judoon dropped a tantalising truckload of teases about potential plot development only one week prior... without addressing any of it. In a different context I think it would stand out alot more than it does.
I’ve always liked Jodie in the role, even if she’s not my favorite. But I recently rewatched the Haunting of Villa Diodati and was reminded that she absolutely has the capacity to be one of my favorite Doctors if she was given better material to work with.
I'm really hoping Maxine Alderton can replicate her success with The Haunting Of Villa Diodati a few more times. And perhaps prove herself showrunner material.
Praxeus 100% would have been pulled if it had aired even 2 weeks later. They pulled an episode of Casualty about a nerve agent which had some pretty important story points in it. And from what I can tell, it's just because the word Quarantine was said once or twice, and they had to wear hazmat suits and disinfect going in and out. This episode was only aired/released to the public about 4 months after it was supposed to air, well after the show had gone on break cause they'd ran out of episodes. Basically Praxeus was really lucky to have been aired at all.
RTD and Moffat already had early masterpieces in just their first seasons. Now we are 2 seasons into the Chibnall era and there is really nothing to write home about. The closest comes the Lone Cyberman episode before the dreadful finale. A shame really because I was rooting for Chibnall/Jodie since 2017
Yeah looking back Series 12 really is a bit all over the place. I especially miss the breath of fresh air that Series 11 brought. That being said, it's more obvious than ever that Chibnall and co are really good at historicals and villains. And honestly, those strength's mean more to me than convoluted plots. That being said, I hope Series 13 manages to combine the simple elements of Series 11 with the ongoing strengths of villain's and historicals.
Definitely agree with the top choice, this era really shines when it comes to historicals. Also I think Chibnall has done the top three villains really well, Daleks, Cybermen and The Master.
I’m on number 5 and still no Tesla, good, it’s my fave of s12, the music, the monsters, Tesla and Edison’s characterisation, it’s so rich, and genuinely an adventure still. Edit: number 2, respectable but still >
Edison seconded! Goran Višnjić was excellent, of course, but Robert Glenister did a great job. Add Anjli Mohindra's zesty performance as the Skithra Queen, and it's as good a supporting cast as I could wish for.
I really appreciate your channel as it doesn't shy away from any negatives you have toward the episodes but it never feels like you are harsher toward this era compared to any other. I can take your criticisms and positives more seriously as I know there isn't a cynical bias. So basically, thank you!
I remember, when Praxeus first aired, chuckling to myself at the fact that the episode was about a deadly virus from China because COVID was just beginning to spread and wasn’t considered to be a major threat... Ohhh
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1. Revolution of The Daleks 2. Fugitive of The Judoon 3. The Haunting of Villa Diodati 4. Nicola Tesla’s Night of Terrors 5. Spyfall 6. Ascension of The Cybermen/The Timeless Children 7. Praxeus 8. Can You Hear Me? 9. Orphan 55
Top 3: 1. Revolution of the Daleks 2. Ascension of the Cybermen 3. The Timeless Children Bottom 3 (3rd is worst) 1. Orphan 55 2. Spyfall Part Two 3. Spyfall Part One
Great video! My ranking would look like this and as you can tell I love this series and it was my first series that I watched live as I only got into doctor who in 2019. 1. Revolution of the Daleks 10/10 2. Haunting of Villa Diodati 10/10 3. Spyfall part 1 10/10 4. Can You Hear me? 10/10 5. Fugitive of the Judoon 10/10 6. Spyfall part 2 9/10 7. The Timeless Children 9/10 8. Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror 9/10 9. Ascension of the Cybermen 7/10 10. Praxeus 7/10 11. Orphan 55 4/10
Quite generous haha I would probably give most of the episodes a 5, 6 or 7 out of ten (Orphan 55 probably deserves a 2 tho and The Haunting of Villa Diodati deserves an 8/10, it’s genuinely pretty good)
@@roostuidos I said I loved this series. Although some could be lower as I haven't watched it since May as I've been doing a rewatch of all of new who and haven't got there yet.
Mostly agreed aside from I thought Praxeus was the worst and Can You Hear Me was average. But yeah this series was the best I've ever seen for New Who and I've gotten a lot of slack for saying it but idc
Hello again I just wanted to say I'm glad your doing more of these Doctor Who rankings. A while ago I did my own ranking of series 12 by PowerPoint and you have Orphan 55 in the same place I did at number 9
About the Blu Ray collection box sets part you mentioned around 3:25: I could see them doing the same when they release the classic seasons with The Twin Dilemma, Timelash, Warriors of the Deep, Destiny of the Daleks and any other low points of the classic era.
More ranking videos? Ooo I can't wait for those. Some of my favourites from series 12 had to be Haunting of Villa Diodati, Praxeus, Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror, and Revolution of the Daleks. I'm really hoping we get to see more of Jo Martin's Doctor in series 13
Your criticisms of Orphan 55 are completely fair; for me personally, when I saw it, it felt good. I think thats because the it felt a lot like classic Who stories. Structurally, it seems to have a fair ammount of 'base under siege' DNA. The setting (and set) reminded me of Paradise Towers and Leisure Hive, whilst its Earth reveal echoed the discovery of the Marble Arch sign in 'The Mysterious Planet'. Series 10 through 12 in general felt truer to the classic era than 1 through 9; you can see parallels of the sort Mr. TARDIS calls out in Praxeus in many stories. There is a good deal of nostalgia in that, but there is also a kind of world building: it is easier to see stories like these as part of a single, wibbly-wobbly, 38-season tapestry of events. I like to imagine that the events of Orphan 55 take place a few thousand years prior to those of 'The Ark in Space' and 'The Sontaran Experiment' where the Doctor visits the cleaned and rejuvinated Earth. Thanks for another lovely video Mr. TARDIS.
5:25 That's an issue I'm honestly surprised that occurred in Series 12. This is something that was common for the old 2010 BBC shows with no special effects budgets like Merlin, not for a show that's usually so proud of its high production values.
I like all the episodes from series 12 My top 10 episodes from series 12 is no.10. praxeus no.9. orphan 55 no.8 ascension of the cybermen no.7 nikola tesla' s night of terror no.6 the timeless children no.5 fugitive of the judoon no.4 revolution of the Daleks no.3 spyfall part 1 2 no.2 can you hear me? no.1 the haunting of villa diodati and I'm one of the people who like series 11 and series 12
I must say, I really enjoyed this series as a whole. It was the first Series I got to watch as it was airing and so none of it was spoiled for me, and thus I got to follow the story on my own two feet, so I’ll always have a special place in my heart for it, for that, with that being said, my ranking: 11- Orphan 55. It’s just devoid of good stuff. Something I’ve been noticing, many of the bad episodes, in my opinion, aren’t actively terrible, they’re just lacking quality. 10- The Timeless Children. A HUGE step up in quality here, but still the third part of a convoluted story that began amazingly and tailed off in the middle. 9- Can You Hear Me? Way too over-stuffed. Beyond that, good stuff. 8- Ascension of the Cybermen- Pretty good here, really. A bit too simple, though, and it’s really just a prologue. 7- Spyfall Part Two- I can’t act like this is a particularly good episode, but I enjoyed it. 6- Fugitive of the Judoon- I liked it. 5- Praxeus. People don’t give this enough credit. 4- Spyfall Part One. Better than part one, and again, I do not regret watching. 3- Revolution of the Daleks. I really enjoyed this episode... 2- Nikola Tesla’s Night of Terror. What a title, this was a pretty enjoyable and fun episode... 1- The Haunting of Villa Diodati- Genuinely a favourite episode of mine... ever? Seriously, I’d rank this near the top of some of the best of Doctor Who
I don't know if Praxeus would have been pulled if it premiered later in the year, but there certainly would have been way more articles written about it. Also nice picks for the Top 2. I'd have to agree with you there. In my eyes, if there is one thing the Chibnall era has absolutely nailed, it's historical episodes.
Imo 10 Timeless children 9 Orphan 55 8 Can you hear me 7 Praxrus 6 Fugutive of the judoon 5 ascention of the cybermen 4 revolution of the daleks 3 niloka teslas 2 Spyfall 1 Haunting of Villa diodati
I can safely say I disagree with all of your placements besides Orphan 55 😂 I personally loved stories like Spyfall and Fugitive of the Judoon but whatever. I can see why you’re not a fan of it because you explain your points really well!
Series 12 is one of my least favourite series of new who but I do really enjoy Haunting of Villa Diojati. Revolution of the Daleks and Spyfall aren't too bad either, they start & end the series on a high note.
My list: 10. Orphan 55 9. The Timeless Children 8. Can You Hear Me? 7. Fugitive Of The Judoon 6. Nikola Tesla's Night Of Terror 5. Praxeus 4. Ascension Of The Cybermen 3. The Haunting ofVillia Diodati 2. Revolution of the Daleks 1. Spyfall
The problem with making so many episodes arc-related isn't just that you risk alienating your audience and polarising the fanbase, it's also the fact that they'll be heavily impacted either positively or negatively by the resolution. I really enjoyed most of series 12 on the initial broadcast, but I was left seriously disappointed by "The Timeless Children" and all the reveals that it brought up. And because so much of the series was built around setting up those reveals, it's kind of diminshed my enjoyment of episodes like "Spyfall", "Fugitive of the Judoon", and "Ascension of the Cybermen" ("Haunting of Villa Diodati" is kind of affected by this, but if I'm honest it's good enough to get around the issue). By contrast, on my most recent rewatch, I found myself really enjoying "Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror" and "Praxeus", episodes which I kind of blew off as being speed bumps for the series momentum at the time of broadcast
It's fast, looks fantastic, funny, global,scary and political- everything a Doctor Who episode needs to be. I don't know why i love it so much, but it's an episode i always come back to and have a great time with.
@@blanko394 I don't see the issue of (micro)plastic pollution in the oceans as a political matter. That aside, I agree 100% with you about the rest; I enjoyed Praxeus.
That's pretty much how I'd rank the episodes, and it's nice to see someone else who feels Praxeus is underrated :) That said, I personally rank "Can You Hear Me?" rather lower. I liked the Yaz story, but felt that the Ryan and Graham segments dragged, and the defeat of the baddies was clumsy and rushed.
My list: 9. Orphan 55 8. Ascension of the cybermen/Timeless children 7. Can You Hear Me? 6. Revolution of the Daleks 5. Praxeus 4. Spyfall 3. Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror 2. Fugitive of the Judoon 1. Haunting of Villa Diodati
The Timeless Children Ascension of the Cybermen Revolution of the Daleks Spyfall Part 1 Can You Hear Me? Fugitive of the Judoon The Haunting of Villa Diodati Spyfall Part 2 Nicola Tesla’s Night of Terror Praxeus Orphan 55
Glad our rankings closely aligned in the top 4 stories. Praxeus is definitely underrated, despite me and my mates laughing at it as Birdemic with a budget on first watch. I was honestly surprised how much I enjoyed it on a second viewing months after, and not just because it's separated from the series arc. PLASTIC AS DISEASE! That really clicked with me, we need more stories exploring pollution issues like this if ya ask me.
I think my opinion on series 12 is that the highs are higher than series 11 but the lows are lower. I thought series 12 was the better series when it finished, but I now think series 11 probably is.
Certainly an improvement, this series. I thought that Orphan was abysmal but I didn't really hate any other story - and Villa, Judoon and the second part of the Cyber trilogy were all pretty damn stonking. I also really loved the Tesla story. But it still never really Popped in the way that series 1-4 or series 6 did, IMHO. It still feels a bit,... Uninspired. But that's Chibnal. He's doing him and that's fine, I guess.
Honestly... I have to agree with these rankings and your thoughts for the most part. Too many good ideas were crammed into too few episodes. Series 12 is far from being the worst season of Doctor Who with strong takes on the Daleks, the Cybermen, and the best New Series incarnation of the Master, but it's a hot mess. There's a lot to like, but almost every episode has too much going on to stick the landing. I'm equal parts excited to explore this new origin for the Doctor and disappointed that The Timeless Children wasn't for the Doctor what Genesis of the Daleks was for her greatest enemy. That said, I do want to see more of Ashad, the Skithra Queen, and the Fugitive Doctor in some form, I do consider The Haunting of Villa Diodati a solid 10/10, and most of all, I do want them to commit to the Doctor's new origins rather than try to backtrack and waste the next series on franchise maintenance.
*Sees fugitive of the Judoon put at the bottom of this list* Me: visible confusion Edit: yea I did just type button instead of bottom. It’s been a long day lol
Wallace & Gromit certainly makes for better viewing than Orphan 55.....One of the only times I've thought an episode terrible when watching it for the first time.....
Here is my list from favourite to least favourite 12x10- The Timeless Children 13x00- Revolution of the Daleks 12x02- Spyfall Part 2 12x05- Fugitive of the Judoon 12x07- Can You Hear Me? 12x04- Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror 12x08- The Haunting of Villa Diodati 12x09- Ascension of the Cybermen 12x01- Spyfall Part 1 12x03- Orphan 55 12x06- Praxeus
I agree with the top and bottom places: 1. Haunting Of Villa Diodati 9/10 2. Can You Hear Me 9/10 3. Spyfall 8/10 4. Revolution Of The Daleks 8/10 5. Fugitive of the Judoon 7.5/10 6. Nikola Tesla’s Night Of Terror 6/10 7. Ascension Of The Cybermen/ The Timeless Children 5.5/10 8. Praxeus 5/10 9. Orphan 55 2/10
I won't lie. I'm nervous about series 13. With the news that John Bishop is joining the cast, I'm worried that the same mistakes are being made with a crowded tardis and not enough room for development of the main characters to the fullest, which is odd to say as Chibnall worked on Torchwood, a show with a larger cast and still managed to develop its characters. I know that Chibnall has a 5 year plan, but if theres not a focus on tight and intricate and interesting storytelling, the plan will be dead in the water, especially after the timeless child reveal which turned some people away from the show. I hope the whole story can play out because if left in it's current form, it takes away from the mythos of the show and creates a dark spot that people would rather ignore.
I share your nervousness about Bishop/S13 - it's as if Chibnall must have a "wisecracking middle-aged Companion" to fit his formula for Doctor Who. As to his previous track-record, Chibnall only wrote 8 _Torchwood_ episodes from a total of 41, and there were a number of very good writers (including RTD) who wrote the rest.
Just found your videos a few days ago and have been binge watching the Dalekcember and Cybercember reviews! Keep the great work up! BTW, what are your thoughts on Hell Bent? I love this episode because its exactly what the Doctor would do if his best friend who understood him died. I know its controversial, but I would love to hear your opinion.
I'm surprised that Doctor Who wasted James Buckley on such a minor character with Nevi. I know Doctor Who is famous for using popular talents in throwaway roles, but he just didn't fit that character at all.
I really liked season 12 The only episode I don't like is orphan 55 which is a disaster. I really liked all the others. Haunting of villa diodate is a masterpiece. Revolution of the daleks was amazing and I really like praxius too! Sasha is the best master ever and 13 and her fam are great!
Haunting of Villa Diodati is the clear standout of the series, followed by Tesla then Can You Hear Me. This series succeeds when it focuses on the strong characters and ideas at the heart of each episode and actually expands on them, not go full blockbuster. With that said, I still find Series 12 an ambitious, if flawed, season of television. Fugitive of the Judoon is still an awesome watch even if there's no actual wait, Orphan 55 is a major guilty pleasure and Revolution of the Daleks is a nutty blockbuster event that nails the Daleks as a concept. Ascension/Timeless is a glorious disaster - it gets a lot right, but also fails so badly in other aspects. It's basically the revival's Trial of a Time Lord.
My only complaint with the Daleks was that Nicholas Briggs wasn't given any lines to refer to the Doctor with the pronouns "she" and "her". Not only did it seem as if they didn't realise she's female, but it also seemed as though the Daleks had stopped referring to the Doctor as they're ultimate enemy. Still, I adore the Daleks in Revolution.
Well all life is equally inferior in the Daleks eyes. As the sixth doctor said in the juggernauts, they see little difference regarding gender so the Doctor being female doesn’t really matter to them in the slightest.
Series 12 as a whole for me is someone taking a pizza and throwing it against a wall just to see what sticks, it's sloppy, messy, and not well thought out, Chip needs to learn to go with one good idea and not shove four or five into one story.
Can you go through one doctor who video without diverting from the topic at hand towards highlighting your distaste for Capaldi episodes?! We know you don't like Hell Bent and MA/WF mate, you've said it enough now.
I spotted that, too. At 3:50 we see clips from ostensibly "worst episode(s) in the history of the show", 3 out of 4 being Moffat stories, and 2 out of those 3 being Capaldi stories. Personally, I've seen few NuWho stories as dire as "Fear Her", and I can think of any number of candidates from the John Nathan-Turner era. I don't think Orphan 55 is absolutely the worst-ever story, but I'd certainly rank it way lower than Hell Bent, MA/WF, Asylum of the Daleks and Revenge of the Cybermen.
Great ranking video. And I actually agree with a lot of the points, even if I do rate Orphan 55 above Haunting of Villa Diodati ...so yeah I think your worst episode is better than your best
I do think The Timeless Children is too high here. I know, I know, it already gets a lot of hate, but the storyline is just SO all over the place. It's basically yet another Cybermen/Master crossover, about as badly written as Dark Water/Death in Heaven, but with an even worse resolution, very little tension, and a HUGE, hamfisted loredump in the middle. I don't like the original concept, but even so, the delivery of this lore revelation could've been handled better in a million different ways, and maybe a few more fans would've been convinced as a result.
I agree that Spyfall was totally un utilised in regards to the 007 theme. I expected a bit more. I think they just liked the name they came up with. I do wonder wether they all sit there doing coke and coming up with overly convoluted scripts that are shit in the morning when the coke has worn off. Maybe if they supplied viewers with coke we might, just might understand this shit show 🤷🏼♂️
I disagree, I'd say Orphan 55 is the WORST episode in the entire series, both Modern and Classic. It has nothing whatsoever to redeem it, not a good plot, good dialogue, or good performances or even something you can appreciate for camp value or a good laugh. Thinking of the worst episodes I can think of.. "Timelash" - The Borad makeup was pretty good for it's time, Colin Baker gave a good performance, Paul Darrow was so hammy it was funny, and I defy anyone not to giggle when Peri is menaced by one of the Morlocks who look like giant plastic willies. It's so bad it's almost good in a lot of ways. "Delta and The Bannermen" - had Ken Dodd in it, and I defy anyone British of a certain age to not smile fondly upon seeing him, and wonder if he's going to attack the Doctor with a Tickling Stick. The whole concept of aliens chasing a princess to a holiday camp in Wales is so bizarre it's good, and the green alien baby that only ate special toothpaste is awesomely funny. "Unicorn and the Wasp" - had a good performance by Tennant and Tate, it was nice seeing the actor who played Henry Gordon Jago back, although a crying shame they didn't have him AS Jago, and the actress playing Christie was very believable. There are rarely Who serials that don't have SOMETHING. I'd say Orphan 55 is the only one that I can't find something to praise.
I wouldn't personally include The Unicorn & The Wasp in that Hall of Shame; it's a fun, murder-mystery romp, which - apart from Black Orchid - we rarely see in Doctor Who. "Unicorn" also has a witty script, and a strong cast who play their parts beautifully.
I would like Paraxeus more if the globe hopping bit was played up. Like i dont know anything about Peru wouldnt it be fun to see what its like but all we see is a ditch with dead birds
Rod Sterling knew how to write a TV show you how to write a character write the plot line and write the show one character in mind all the way to the end and then set up for the next time that's what Doctor Who should be chased no they should be watching Twilight Zone take notes because they obviously need some lessons
I've had that experience before where my brain hurts lots of times every time I listen to David pain as the temp doctor my brain hurt I couldn't figure out what the hell he was saying every time I heard we was saying my brain was in so much pain I think I needed a aspirin just to deal with it all Sarah Polley was about the same so but it's the only one that didn't make me feel like meeting Tylenol donkey Christopher Eccleston was Christopher Eccleston himself so thank you for that I will thank you from the bottom of my heart my bottom of my one heart I don't need my brain to feel like it's got a hammer banging on it no thanks Mary did The Fugitive Neon Moon topic for the bus no option turn on the moon
I’ll say this before and I’ll say it again: I really dislike the Ruth Doctor. I admire Jo Martian’s acting and she would play an Amazing Doctor, Anyone can be a Doctor. But I can not stand her attitude with her gritted teeth hissing at Jodie’s Doctor To Shut Up for the 14th time, I can’t stand that type of behaviour and just pisses me off. Now don’t get me wrong I also have issues with Jodie’s Doctor as well by how she’s written. But also I have a problem with Ruth’s Doctor is that her incarnation makes no sense. It’s just shock value for the sake of shocking the audience. I bet you we’re never gonna get an explanation as to where she fits in the Timeline. I refuse to believe she is before the 1st Doctor. Or between 2nd and 3rd. Fat Fucking Chance.
I'm not a fan of the Ruth Doctor, either. Anyone can act snide and snarky, which is how she was written much of the time. When she _wasn't_ being badass and kickass, I thought she was pretty ordinary. When most Doctors come out with the classic "I'm the Doctor" it's usually a big moment, but when Jo Martin said the line it felt like someone from the gas company telling you they'd come to fit a new gas-meter.
I definitely agree with you about Orphan 55. I want a deep dive with cast and crew into what the heck happened there. It reminded me of some of the infamously bad classic who stories ala Warriors Of The Deep and Timelash.
Warriors of the Deep wasn't a bad story, just badly produced. If it was done today with decent special effects, prosthetics, and dimly-lit and closer to the Alien series in aesthetics, it'd probably go down really well. Maybe leave out the infamous flying kick though..
How long is this gonna tank how do I even know it's if it's going to be worst to best ranking if I can't even see the damn ranking maybe I should do a video of a video about best to worst video that because you don't get to see the actual video because of the axle buffering long it takes for the actual video to start
I'm gonna be honest The Haunting of Villa Diodati is overrated for me. Best episode is Revolution of the Daleks. I really didn't like series 12, I don't think it did anything for the characters, I think series 11 characterized Whittaker's Doctor better (and that Whittaker gave a much better performance there, I don't like her performance in s12), and that series 11 had better episodes overall while most of s12 was just mediocre. Spyfall is my least favorite opener ever. Best director is Lee Haven Jones. EDIT: This is my least favorite series of the revival. S7 at least had Series 7A and The Name of the Doctor.
I have to disagree the story arcs or what makes Doctor Who a fun show to watch the fast-paced the chasing the monster seems some of them are really good can't say that about weeping angels because I actually hated that one sorry David Tennant I did especially the episode blink I don't know whoever started that one but blink and think they rhyme and I think it sucks it did suck it suck blows and it might as well have been on crack cuz that's how bad it sucks especially with that wibbly wobbly bulshit crap sorry David tenant word and its really . There was nothing fun about link by the way it sounded more like a threat than a warning
Fugitive of the Judoon was miles better than most of the series. Especially, the finale because that was just horrendous after Ascension. Praxeus needed Nestene and was still better than Can You Hear Me? Revolution of the Daleks was hot garbage to the point I'm not excited for series 13 now. Spyfall was also epic. I only agree with your top two of Tesla's Night of Terror, which needed Racnoss, and Villa Diodati, which was just amazing. And as for Orphan 55, that stunk more than Revolution of the Daleks.
In my opinion The Haunting of Villa Diodati was the highlight of the series. Fugitive was a pretty messy episode and the finale was straight up appalling
@@justabit6526 I enjoyed Fugitive and feel like it was better than that finale. But Revolution should be way down next to Orphan 55 because it was a train wreck.
I really don't like this series, but if I had to rank them: 1. Fugitive of the Judoon (6/10) 2. Ascension of the Cybermen (5/10) 3. Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror (4/10) 4. Revolution of the Daleks (3/10) 5. The Haunting of Villa Diodati (3/10) 6. Spyfall Part 1 (3/10) 7. The Timeless Children (1/10) 8. Spyfall Part 2 (1/10) 9. Can You Hear Me? (1/10) 10. Praxeus (1/10) 11. Orphan 55 (0/10)
@@hagridmary series 7 had no standout episode, series 9 had too many 2 parters (2 of which were bad, in turn cutting down the quality of the season by half), and series 2 had the terrible trio (the idiot's lantern, love and monsters, and fear her). What did series 12 have? Orphan 55... that's it. The Timeless Children, although controversial, was actually well-written. If the timeless child was revealed to have been the master, i feel that the episode would be given a lot more praise
John Simms who played the original Master although there is probably a lot more was one of the best Wednesday tag I'm not saying that Sacha Dhawan isn't a good one or even a great one NOK one you're not bad he's not good he's just okay barnelli's bears in Joey at the moment
9. Ascension of the Cybermen/The Timeless Children 8. Orphan 55 7. Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror 6. Praxeus 5. Revolution of the Daleks 4. Fugitive of the Judoon 3. Spyfall 2. Can You Hear Me? 1. The Haunting of Villa Diodati
Ascension of the cyberman and the next episode, are the worst episodes in all Doctor Who, the espisodes that breaks all the canonicity, after this, a true Doctor Who fan should stop watching this shit, to have at least a little honor.
Well destroying the emocional moment of the permament dead of Missy, when se became finally the friend of Doctor, a good person. And then without reason, a new evil master that can't regenerate into a new Doctor is alive and hating snother time the Doctor. And of course the stupid fans are still supporting all the shits of these seasons.
@@vashtanerada2731 There's nothing stopping the current Master from being pre-Missy, or pre-Yana for that matter. All we know is that he's probably a post-Ainley incarnation, as he made a reference to the "Jodrell Bank" (Pharos Project) incident from _Logopolis._
It doesn't break canon, it just re-contextualises it. This type of canon altering has been a very common part of Doctor Who. Hell, Series 5 and Day of the Doctor both serve to remove things from Canon that Moffat didn't agree with. Granted, The Timeless Children was clumsy with how it altered the canon, but it's certainly not out of the ordinary for Doctor Who.
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Okay, _BUT..._ Nichola Tesla is most definitely thematically linked with the season arc. The Nichola Tesla immigrant stuff is obviously thematically cohesive with the revelations about the Timeless Child when put in context of the whole season and viewed in retrospect. Ya, narratively it's divorced from the story of the season arc, but thematically it's pretty strongly tied to the Timeless Child stuff.
There's a reason that they did a story about the Doctor meeting Tesla, getting on like a house on fire, and colouring everything with the theming of immigrant exploitation and historical whitewashing... before they did a finale about how the Doctor has a stolen history as an exploited immigrant child with the most literal narrative and visual metaphor for historical whitewashing I have ever seen in the TC/Brendan dual unreliable narrator juxtaposition.
Shocker, I know, that both TTC and Orphan 55 are the 2 low ranked episodes for which I have much higher opinions than others... The thing is, that Orphan 55 was integrating the allegory about Global Warming in the whole damn episode, and the best part of the viewing experience for me was recontextualising what I had seen after what seemed to be a wild third act twist. The fridge realisation that the reason OTT characters like Hyph3n, Green haired mechanic and son, Benni, etc all do stupid stuff to drive the plot forward and don't really work as characters is because they are all doing double duty as allegorical metaphors for how different people respond to the everpresent looming threat of the Dregs a.k.a. the allegorical metaphor for global warming... hit me the next morning. It changed my whole perception of the episode from _"Well that was a fun enough Doctor Who-ish mess of a little weekly adventure. It was fine."_ into _"Oh, my god, it's the fricking Sun Makers again, but without the troubling anti-semitic tropes."_ Nothing is what it seems on the surface, because the commentary is so thick you could cut it with a knife.
It never lets this stuff get in the way of just telling a silly runaround, monster of the week, base under seige, bog standard, Doctor Who adventure story, so the third act twist kinda jumps up and smacks you in the face yelling _"SURPRISE! It was Earth the whole time! Yes I just did the Planet of the Apes bit. This is about global warming sucker... get on my level!"_ I will freely admit that because of the way this came off, the episode kinda failed in delivering the twist and the allegory, since for alot of people it came off alot more like _"Surprise! Planet of the Apes. The episode is about Global Warming now."_ Rather than feeling like everything clicked into place with the final act reveal, it comes off as a massive tone shift with a flimsy narrative justification. Just like It Takes You Away, you really do need to get on Ed Hime's level and realise what it's trying to do to appreciate the episode. It's a scathing commentary about global warming denialism from start to finish. Like The Mutants being about Apartheid, or the Green Death... also about ecology... Orphan 55 is _not subtle,_ and I kinda love it. It's definitely a 'love me or hate me' kind of episode though, so I get why it's so easy to just hate it. I'm not gonna convince anyone who hates it to love it, because the reasons are probably similar, but the personal reaction and conclusions are opposite. That description of Gromit laying down track in front of the speeding train sounds awesome to me, so I loved this one.
I definitely agree about Praxeus being underrated tho. It only suffers from being an also ran globe trotting adventure after Spyfall, and ecological story after Orphan 55. That, and it had to change the subject after Fugitive of the Judoon dropped a tantalising truckload of teases about potential plot development only one week prior... without addressing any of it. In a different context I think it would stand out alot more than it does.
I’ve always liked Jodie in the role, even if she’s not my favorite. But I recently rewatched the Haunting of Villa Diodati and was reminded that she absolutely has the capacity to be one of my favorite Doctors if she was given better material to work with.
That episode is a masterpiece. I love it
"By the time the penny drops"? More like "By the time the Benni drops"...
You legend.
I hereby knight you.
I'm really hoping Maxine Alderton can replicate her success with The Haunting Of Villa Diodati a few more times. And perhaps prove herself showrunner material.
I’d like to see a spin-off for the Ruth Doctor. She has a lot of potential and Jo Martin is fun to watch.
I'd be surprised if Big Finish aren't already trying to make plans for her.
Yeah, a audio-book. Because all spin-offs like Torchwood, Sarah Jane and Class were cancelated. This means they don't take it seriously.
A year later I'm pretty sure she's getting comics or something
Praxeus 100% would have been pulled if it had aired even 2 weeks later.
They pulled an episode of Casualty about a nerve agent which had some pretty important story points in it. And from what I can tell, it's just because the word Quarantine was said once or twice, and they had to wear hazmat suits and disinfect going in and out. This episode was only aired/released to the public about 4 months after it was supposed to air, well after the show had gone on break cause they'd ran out of episodes.
Basically Praxeus was really lucky to have been aired at all.
I'd never realised that point about the two Doctors not resolving the mystery there and then in Fugitive. That edit had me bawling nice one mate!
RTD and Moffat already had early masterpieces in just their first seasons. Now we are 2 seasons into the Chibnall era and there is really nothing to write home about. The closest comes the Lone Cyberman episode before the dreadful finale.
A shame really because I was rooting for Chibnall/Jodie since 2017
Yeah looking back Series 12 really is a bit all over the place. I especially miss the breath of fresh air that Series 11 brought. That being said, it's more obvious than ever that Chibnall and co are really good at historicals and villains. And honestly, those strength's mean more to me than convoluted plots. That being said, I hope Series 13 manages to combine the simple elements of Series 11 with the ongoing strengths of villain's and historicals.
Definitely agree with the top choice, this era really shines when it comes to historicals. Also I think Chibnall has done the top three villains really well, Daleks, Cybermen and The Master.
He really is just very good at classic villains. Even his Silurians in Series 5 were pretty good.
I’m on number 5 and still no Tesla, good, it’s my fave of s12, the music, the monsters, Tesla and Edison’s characterisation, it’s so rich, and genuinely an adventure still.
Edit: number 2, respectable but still >
Edison seconded! Goran Višnjić was excellent, of course, but Robert Glenister did a great job. Add Anjli Mohindra's zesty performance as the Skithra Queen, and it's as good a supporting cast as I could wish for.
Right there with you on Fugitive of the Judoon. Kind of refreshing to see a take on it like this.
I really appreciate your channel as it doesn't shy away from any negatives you have toward the episodes but it never feels like you are harsher toward this era compared to any other. I can take your criticisms and positives more seriously as I know there isn't a cynical bias. So basically, thank you!
sarah jane was cancelled because the lead acress died.(i think)
@@joeespin4377 You replied to the wrong comment?
@@BH-98 this isn 't the first time i did this. thank you for pointing that out
I remember, when Praxeus first aired, chuckling to myself at the fact that the episode was about a deadly virus from China because COVID was just beginning to spread and wasn’t considered to be a major threat...
Ohhh
Praxeus = CoRvid-19
I really like praxius.
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@@jasonlescalleet5611 AND WHAT'S WITH THE "R"?!
1. Revolution of The Daleks
2. Fugitive of The Judoon
3. The Haunting of Villa Diodati
4. Nicola Tesla’s Night of Terrors
5. Spyfall
6. Ascension of The Cybermen/The Timeless Children
7. Praxeus
8. Can You Hear Me?
9. Orphan 55
The Haunting of Villa Diodati felt like the only genuinely good episode this series, revolution of the Daleks felt really messy as did fugitive.
@@justabit6526 this is just my opinion
Top 3:
1. Revolution of the Daleks
2. Ascension of the Cybermen
3. The Timeless Children
Bottom 3 (3rd is worst)
1. Orphan 55
2. Spyfall Part Two
3. Spyfall Part One
Great video! My ranking would look like this and as you can tell I love this series and it was my first series that I watched live as I only got into doctor who in 2019.
1. Revolution of the Daleks 10/10
2. Haunting of Villa Diodati 10/10
3. Spyfall part 1 10/10
4. Can You Hear me? 10/10
5. Fugitive of the Judoon 10/10
6. Spyfall part 2 9/10
7. The Timeless Children 9/10
8. Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror 9/10
9. Ascension of the Cybermen 7/10
10. Praxeus 7/10
11. Orphan 55 4/10
Five 10/10’s?
Quite generous haha
I would probably give most of the episodes a 5, 6 or 7 out of ten (Orphan 55 probably deserves a 2 tho and The Haunting of Villa Diodati deserves an 8/10, it’s genuinely pretty good)
@@roostuidos I said I loved this series. Although some could be lower as I haven't watched it since May as I've been doing a rewatch of all of new who and haven't got there yet.
Mostly agreed aside from I thought Praxeus was the worst and Can You Hear Me was average. But yeah this series was the best I've ever seen for New Who and I've gotten a lot of slack for saying it but idc
For fans of "Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror" please consider watching the US Series "Timeless" - it's great, and stars the actor who played Tesla.
Hello again I just wanted to say I'm glad your doing more of these Doctor Who rankings. A while ago I did my own ranking of series 12 by PowerPoint and you have Orphan 55 in the same place I did at number 9
About the Blu Ray collection box sets part you mentioned around 3:25: I could see them doing the same when they release the classic seasons with The Twin Dilemma, Timelash, Warriors of the Deep, Destiny of the Daleks and any other low points of the classic era.
More ranking videos? Ooo I can't wait for those. Some of my favourites from series 12 had to be Haunting of Villa Diodati, Praxeus, Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror, and Revolution of the Daleks.
I'm really hoping we get to see more of Jo Martin's Doctor in series 13
thanks for always putting so much time and dedication into your videos! been watching for years, and you've just gotten better and better
3:55 Ey look who it is.
Can someone explain why ppl were commenting to bowlestrek that image
No home planet, no influences, nothing...
@@pjgs4933 For the laughs.
BENNI!
Your criticisms of Orphan 55 are completely fair; for me personally, when I saw it, it felt good. I think thats because the it felt a lot like classic Who stories. Structurally, it seems to have a fair ammount of 'base under siege' DNA. The setting (and set) reminded me of Paradise Towers and Leisure Hive, whilst its Earth reveal echoed the discovery of the Marble Arch sign in 'The Mysterious Planet'.
Series 10 through 12 in general felt truer to the classic era than 1 through 9; you can see parallels of the sort Mr. TARDIS calls out in Praxeus in many stories. There is a good deal of nostalgia in that, but there is also a kind of world building: it is easier to see stories like these as part of a single, wibbly-wobbly, 38-season tapestry of events. I like to imagine that the events of Orphan 55 take place a few thousand years prior to those of 'The Ark in Space' and 'The Sontaran Experiment' where the Doctor visits the cleaned and rejuvinated Earth.
Thanks for another lovely video Mr. TARDIS.
5:25 That's an issue I'm honestly surprised that occurred in Series 12.
This is something that was common for the old 2010 BBC shows with no special effects budgets like Merlin, not for a show that's usually so proud of its high production values.
I like all the episodes from series 12 My top 10 episodes from series 12 is no.10. praxeus no.9. orphan 55 no.8 ascension of the cybermen no.7 nikola tesla' s night of terror no.6 the timeless children no.5 fugitive of the judoon no.4 revolution of the Daleks no.3 spyfall part 1 2 no.2 can you hear me? no.1 the haunting of villa diodati and I'm one of the people who like series 11 and series 12
I must say, I really enjoyed this series as a whole. It was the first Series I got to watch as it was airing and so none of it was spoiled for me, and thus I got to follow the story on my own two feet, so I’ll always have a special place in my heart for it, for that, with that being said, my ranking:
11- Orphan 55. It’s just devoid of good stuff. Something I’ve been noticing, many of the bad episodes, in my opinion, aren’t actively terrible, they’re just lacking quality.
10- The Timeless Children. A HUGE step up in quality here, but still the third part of a convoluted story that began amazingly and tailed off in the middle.
9- Can You Hear Me? Way too over-stuffed. Beyond that, good stuff.
8- Ascension of the Cybermen- Pretty good here, really. A bit too simple, though, and it’s really just a prologue.
7- Spyfall Part Two- I can’t act like this is a particularly good episode, but I enjoyed it.
6- Fugitive of the Judoon- I liked it.
5- Praxeus. People don’t give this enough credit.
4- Spyfall Part One. Better than part one, and again, I do not regret watching.
3- Revolution of the Daleks. I really enjoyed this episode...
2- Nikola Tesla’s Night of Terror. What a title, this was a pretty enjoyable and fun episode...
1- The Haunting of Villa Diodati- Genuinely a favourite episode of mine... ever? Seriously, I’d rank this near the top of some of the best of Doctor Who
I don't know if Praxeus would have been pulled if it premiered later in the year, but there certainly would have been way more articles written about it.
Also nice picks for the Top 2. I'd have to agree with you there. In my eyes, if there is one thing the Chibnall era has absolutely nailed, it's historical episodes.
0:07 Should be interesting to see how it compares to your rankings from the end of Dalekcember and where 'Revolution of the Daleks' comes.
Revolution of the Daleks is the best for me. Easily. I didn't like series 12 almost at all tbh.
Imo
10 Timeless children
9 Orphan 55
8 Can you hear me
7 Praxrus
6 Fugutive of the judoon
5 ascention of the cybermen
4 revolution of the daleks
3 niloka teslas
2 Spyfall
1 Haunting of Villa diodati
I can safely say I disagree with all of your placements besides Orphan 55 😂
I personally loved stories like Spyfall and Fugitive of the Judoon but whatever. I can see why you’re not a fan of it because you explain your points really well!
Series 12 is one of my least favourite series of new who but I do really enjoy Haunting of Villa Diojati. Revolution of the Daleks and Spyfall aren't too bad either, they start & end the series on a high note.
My list:
10. Orphan 55
9. The Timeless Children
8. Can You Hear Me?
7. Fugitive Of The Judoon
6. Nikola Tesla's Night Of Terror
5. Praxeus
4. Ascension Of The Cybermen
3. The Haunting ofVillia Diodati
2. Revolution of the Daleks
1. Spyfall
the haunting of villa diodati is best
Diodati rules all!! 😂😂
Seriously, it’s miles better than any other Chibnall written episode. I really hope the writer comes back for series 13
The problem with making so many episodes arc-related isn't just that you risk alienating your audience and polarising the fanbase, it's also the fact that they'll be heavily impacted either positively or negatively by the resolution. I really enjoyed most of series 12 on the initial broadcast, but I was left seriously disappointed by "The Timeless Children" and all the reveals that it brought up. And because so much of the series was built around setting up those reveals, it's kind of diminshed my enjoyment of episodes like "Spyfall", "Fugitive of the Judoon", and "Ascension of the Cybermen" ("Haunting of Villa Diodati" is kind of affected by this, but if I'm honest it's good enough to get around the issue). By contrast, on my most recent rewatch, I found myself really enjoying "Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror" and "Praxeus", episodes which I kind of blew off as being speed bumps for the series momentum at the time of broadcast
I love Praxeus, probably my favourite Whitaker episode yet
That episode is horrendus.
It's fast, looks fantastic, funny, global,scary and political- everything a Doctor Who episode needs to be. I don't know why i love it so much, but it's an episode i always come back to and have a great time with.
@@blanko394 I don't see the issue of (micro)plastic pollution in the oceans as a political matter. That aside, I agree 100% with you about the rest; I enjoyed Praxeus.
@@thedoctorgeneric5007 Alright son, fists down
Love your work. From a fan since the early seventies.
That's pretty much how I'd rank the episodes, and it's nice to see someone else who feels Praxeus is underrated :)
That said, I personally rank "Can You Hear Me?" rather lower. I liked the Yaz story, but felt that the Ryan and Graham segments dragged, and the defeat of the baddies was clumsy and rushed.
how can praxeus be underrated. its crap just like everything in the era.
30:16 Yea, tesla was actually an adorable lad! And I liked the episode, too!
I honestly thought that Can You Hear Me? was going to be a 2-parter
My list:
9. Orphan 55
8. Ascension of the cybermen/Timeless children
7. Can You Hear Me?
6. Revolution of the Daleks
5. Praxeus
4. Spyfall
3. Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror
2. Fugitive of the Judoon
1. Haunting of Villa Diodati
The Timeless Children
Ascension of the Cybermen
Revolution of the Daleks
Spyfall Part 1
Can You Hear Me?
Fugitive of the Judoon
The Haunting of Villa Diodati
Spyfall Part 2
Nicola Tesla’s Night of Terror
Praxeus
Orphan 55
Well i guess we will find out next series either Ed hime was a bad writer or a one hit wonder
Glad our rankings closely aligned in the top 4 stories. Praxeus is definitely underrated, despite me and my mates laughing at it as Birdemic with a budget on first watch. I was honestly surprised how much I enjoyed it on a second viewing months after, and not just because it's separated from the series arc. PLASTIC AS DISEASE! That really clicked with me, we need more stories exploring pollution issues like this if ya ask me.
I think my opinion on series 12 is that the highs are higher than series 11 but the lows are lower. I thought series 12 was the better series when it finished, but I now think series 11 probably is.
I'm totally with you
Certainly an improvement, this series. I thought that Orphan was abysmal but I didn't really hate any other story - and Villa, Judoon and the second part of the Cyber trilogy were all pretty damn stonking. I also really loved the Tesla story.
But it still never really Popped in the way that series 1-4 or series 6 did, IMHO. It still feels a bit,... Uninspired. But that's Chibnal. He's doing him and that's fine, I guess.
20:37 I completely forgot about that bit. Randy's right, that is bullshit!
The alien spies clip made me burst out laughing, good job
It's therapeutic to see Fugitive and Spyfall on the lower end for a change.
Honestly... I have to agree with these rankings and your thoughts for the most part. Too many good ideas were crammed into too few episodes. Series 12 is far from being the worst season of Doctor Who with strong takes on the Daleks, the Cybermen, and the best New Series incarnation of the Master, but it's a hot mess. There's a lot to like, but almost every episode has too much going on to stick the landing. I'm equal parts excited to explore this new origin for the Doctor and disappointed that The Timeless Children wasn't for the Doctor what Genesis of the Daleks was for her greatest enemy.
That said, I do want to see more of Ashad, the Skithra Queen, and the Fugitive Doctor in some form, I do consider The Haunting of Villa Diodati a solid 10/10, and most of all, I do want them to commit to the Doctor's new origins rather than try to backtrack and waste the next series on franchise maintenance.
Prisoner of the Judoon has Eric Saward energy.
*Sees fugitive of the Judoon put at the bottom of this list*
Me: visible confusion
Edit: yea I did just type button instead of bottom. It’s been a long day lol
Wallace & Gromit certainly makes for better viewing than Orphan 55.....One of the only times I've thought an episode terrible when watching it for the first time.....
Here is my list from favourite to least favourite
12x10- The Timeless Children
13x00- Revolution of the Daleks
12x02- Spyfall Part 2
12x05- Fugitive of the Judoon
12x07- Can You Hear Me?
12x04- Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror
12x08- The Haunting of Villa Diodati
12x09- Ascension of the Cybermen
12x01- Spyfall Part 1
12x03- Orphan 55
12x06- Praxeus
I agree with the top and bottom places:
1. Haunting Of Villa Diodati 9/10
2. Can You Hear Me 9/10
3. Spyfall 8/10
4. Revolution Of The Daleks 8/10
5. Fugitive of the Judoon 7.5/10
6. Nikola Tesla’s Night Of Terror 6/10
7. Ascension Of The Cybermen/ The Timeless Children 5.5/10
8. Praxeus 5/10
9. Orphan 55 2/10
Good list but i really like praxius!
@@sbi168 fair enough
I won't lie. I'm nervous about series 13. With the news that John Bishop is joining the cast, I'm worried that the same mistakes are being made with a crowded tardis and not enough room for development of the main characters to the fullest, which is odd to say as Chibnall worked on Torchwood, a show with a larger cast and still managed to develop its characters. I know that Chibnall has a 5 year plan, but if theres not a focus on tight and intricate and interesting storytelling, the plan will be dead in the water, especially after the timeless child reveal which turned some people away from the show. I hope the whole story can play out because if left in it's current form, it takes away from the mythos of the show and creates a dark spot that people would rather ignore.
I share your nervousness about Bishop/S13 - it's as if Chibnall must have a "wisecracking middle-aged Companion" to fit his formula for Doctor Who. As to his previous track-record, Chibnall only wrote 8 _Torchwood_ episodes from a total of 41, and there were a number of very good writers (including RTD) who wrote the rest.
Just found your videos a few days ago and have been binge watching the Dalekcember and Cybercember reviews! Keep the great work up! BTW, what are your thoughts on Hell Bent? I love this episode because its exactly what the Doctor would do if his best friend who understood him died. I know its controversial, but I would love to hear your opinion.
Oh boy you're in for a treat!
I'm surprised that Doctor Who wasted James Buckley on such a minor character with Nevi. I know Doctor Who is famous for using popular talents in throwaway roles, but he just didn't fit that character at all.
I really liked season 12
The only episode I don't like is orphan 55 which is a disaster. I really liked all the others.
Haunting of villa diodate is a masterpiece. Revolution of the daleks was amazing and I really like praxius too! Sasha is the best master ever and 13 and her fam are great!
The highlight of this video was definitely the Jo Martin shut up compilation
Well I agree with you about the best, and the worst.
This was a bumpy ride between those two, for me...
But each to his own.
Haunting of Villa Diodati is the clear standout of the series, followed by Tesla then Can You Hear Me. This series succeeds when it focuses on the strong characters and ideas at the heart of each episode and actually expands on them, not go full blockbuster. With that said, I still find Series 12 an ambitious, if flawed, season of television. Fugitive of the Judoon is still an awesome watch even if there's no actual wait, Orphan 55 is a major guilty pleasure and Revolution of the Daleks is a nutty blockbuster event that nails the Daleks as a concept. Ascension/Timeless is a glorious disaster - it gets a lot right, but also fails so badly in other aspects. It's basically the revival's Trial of a Time Lord.
My only complaint with the Daleks was that Nicholas Briggs wasn't given any lines to refer to the Doctor with the pronouns "she" and "her". Not only did it seem as if they didn't realise she's female, but it also seemed as though the Daleks had stopped referring to the Doctor as they're ultimate enemy. Still, I adore the Daleks in Revolution.
Well all life is equally inferior in the Daleks eyes. As the sixth doctor said in the juggernauts, they see little difference regarding gender so the Doctor being female doesn’t really matter to them in the slightest.
Praxeus is hella underrated
Fun video and LOVE the randy bit
My top four are the same as yours, but the order is slightly different (I just don't know if I prefer Nikola Tesla or Diodati more)
Series 12 as a whole for me is someone taking a pizza and throwing it against a wall just to see what sticks, it's sloppy, messy, and not well thought out, Chip needs to learn to go with one good idea and not shove four or five into one story.
Can you go through one doctor who video without diverting from the topic at hand towards highlighting your distaste for Capaldi episodes?! We know you don't like Hell Bent and MA/WF mate, you've said it enough now.
I spotted that, too. At 3:50 we see clips from ostensibly "worst episode(s) in the history of the show", 3 out of 4 being Moffat stories, and 2 out of those 3 being Capaldi stories. Personally, I've seen few NuWho stories as dire as "Fear Her", and I can think of any number of candidates from the John Nathan-Turner era. I don't think Orphan 55 is absolutely the worst-ever story, but I'd certainly rank it way lower than Hell Bent, MA/WF, Asylum of the Daleks and Revenge of the Cybermen.
Orphan 55 is like a Season 24 episode with a high budget. It’s as bad as Time And The Rani.
Worse. At least Time and The Rani had Kate O'Mara doing an impression of Bonnie Langford, which was pretty funny to watch.
How do you get all this footage? Council of Geeks never has it on reviews.
Great ranking video. And I actually agree with a lot of the points, even if I do rate Orphan 55 above Haunting of Villa Diodati ...so yeah I think your worst episode is better than your best
I do think The Timeless Children is too high here. I know, I know, it already gets a lot of hate, but the storyline is just SO all over the place. It's basically yet another Cybermen/Master crossover, about as badly written as Dark Water/Death in Heaven, but with an even worse resolution, very little tension, and a HUGE, hamfisted loredump in the middle. I don't like the original concept, but even so, the delivery of this lore revelation could've been handled better in a million different ways, and maybe a few more fans would've been convinced as a result.
You can tell Orphan 55 is a huge mess when it takes 15% of this video's runtime!
Fantastic video, I can only imagine how long the script took to make
I have no words
I agree that Spyfall was totally un utilised in regards to the 007 theme. I expected a bit more. I think they just liked the name they came up with. I do wonder wether they all sit there doing coke and coming up with overly convoluted scripts that are shit in the morning when the coke has worn off.
Maybe if they supplied viewers with coke we might, just might understand this shit show 🤷🏼♂️
I remember really liking praxeus during broadcast
the last 2 were no-brainers for me. its actually so good.
I disagree, I'd say Orphan 55 is the WORST episode in the entire series, both Modern and Classic. It has nothing whatsoever to redeem it, not a good plot, good dialogue, or good performances or even something you can appreciate for camp value or a good laugh. Thinking of the worst episodes I can think of..
"Timelash" - The Borad makeup was pretty good for it's time, Colin Baker gave a good performance, Paul Darrow was so hammy it was funny, and I defy anyone not to giggle when Peri is menaced by one of the Morlocks who look like giant plastic willies. It's so bad it's almost good in a lot of ways.
"Delta and The Bannermen" - had Ken Dodd in it, and I defy anyone British of a certain age to not smile fondly upon seeing him, and wonder if he's going to attack the Doctor with a Tickling Stick. The whole concept of aliens chasing a princess to a holiday camp in Wales is so bizarre it's good, and the green alien baby that only ate special toothpaste is awesomely funny.
"Unicorn and the Wasp" - had a good performance by Tennant and Tate, it was nice seeing the actor who played Henry Gordon Jago back, although a crying shame they didn't have him AS Jago, and the actress playing Christie was very believable.
There are rarely Who serials that don't have SOMETHING. I'd say Orphan 55 is the only one that I can't find something to praise.
I wouldn't personally include The Unicorn & The Wasp in that Hall of Shame; it's a fun, murder-mystery romp, which - apart from Black Orchid - we rarely see in Doctor Who. "Unicorn" also has a witty script, and a strong cast who play their parts beautifully.
It's ultimately up to a debate whether you think art that invokes a negative reaction is better than one that invokes none at all.
we all know which Dalek story will be on the bottom.
I would like Paraxeus more if the globe hopping bit was played up. Like i dont know anything about Peru wouldnt it be fun to see what its like but all we see is a ditch with dead birds
Wait, you've already ranked the Dalek stories
I've not done a dedicated video, or explained the rankings or done one with 'Revolution of the Daleks'.
Rod Sterling knew how to write a TV show you how to write a character write the plot line and write the show one character in mind all the way to the end and then set up for the next time that's what Doctor Who should be chased no they should be watching Twilight Zone take notes because they obviously need some lessons
I stopped watching when Capaldi was on, but I'm tempted to download Orphan 55, just to see how bad it really is. I've seen so many reviews about it.
Do it 😂
It's definitely not as bad as some of Capaldi or Smith's worst, but it's still... bad
@@tTaseric u serious!? Give me a Smith episode worse than this...
@@tTaseric Even Fear Her is better than anything Chibs has produced.
@@MrPaulmorris7777 It's nice that you think that
I've had that experience before where my brain hurts lots of times every time I listen to David pain as the temp doctor my brain hurt I couldn't figure out what the hell he was saying every time I heard we was saying my brain was in so much pain I think I needed a aspirin just to deal with it all Sarah Polley was about the same so but it's the only one that didn't make me feel like meeting Tylenol donkey Christopher Eccleston was Christopher Eccleston himself so thank you for that I will thank you from the bottom of my heart my bottom of my one heart I don't need my brain to feel like it's got a hammer banging on it no thanks Mary did The Fugitive Neon Moon topic for the bus no option turn on the moon
Are you okay?
I’ll say this before and I’ll say it again: I really dislike the Ruth Doctor. I admire Jo Martian’s acting and she would play an Amazing Doctor, Anyone can be a Doctor. But I can not stand her attitude with her gritted teeth hissing at Jodie’s Doctor To Shut Up for the 14th time, I can’t stand that type of behaviour and just pisses me off. Now don’t get me wrong I also have issues with Jodie’s Doctor as well by how she’s written.
But also I have a problem with Ruth’s Doctor is that her incarnation makes no sense. It’s just shock value for the sake of shocking the audience. I bet you we’re never gonna get an explanation as to where she fits in the Timeline. I refuse to believe she is before the 1st Doctor. Or between 2nd and 3rd. Fat Fucking Chance.
I'm not a fan of the Ruth Doctor, either. Anyone can act snide and snarky, which is how she was written much of the time. When she _wasn't_ being badass and kickass, I thought she was pretty ordinary. When most Doctors come out with the classic "I'm the Doctor" it's usually a big moment, but when Jo Martin said the line it felt like someone from the gas company telling you they'd come to fit a new gas-meter.
I definitely agree with you about Orphan 55. I want a deep dive with cast and crew into what the heck happened there. It reminded me of some of the infamously bad classic who stories ala Warriors Of The Deep and Timelash.
Warriors of the Deep wasn't a bad story, just badly produced. If it was done today with decent special effects, prosthetics, and dimly-lit and closer to the Alien series in aesthetics, it'd probably go down really well. Maybe leave out the infamous flying kick though..
How long is this gonna tank how do I even know it's if it's going to be worst to best ranking if I can't even see the damn ranking maybe I should do a video of a video about best to worst video that because you don't get to see the actual video because of the axle buffering long it takes for the actual video to start
Well we all know what’s gonna be last.
Yep, called it.
Everyone on earth called that! I despise orphan 55 my worst nu who ever I think.
23:00 nah that scene is good actually. The Doctor not saying anything and just being there to listen is enough.
I'm gonna be honest The Haunting of Villa Diodati is overrated for me. Best episode is Revolution of the Daleks. I really didn't like series 12, I don't think it did anything for the characters, I think series 11 characterized Whittaker's Doctor better (and that Whittaker gave a much better performance there, I don't like her performance in s12), and that series 11 had better episodes overall while most of s12 was just mediocre. Spyfall is my least favorite opener ever. Best director is Lee Haven Jones.
EDIT: This is my least favorite series of the revival. S7 at least had Series 7A and The Name of the Doctor.
What do you mean by "bad faith actors"
I think he means people in the Doctor Who community who act terrible for the sake of being terrible, or because it gets them attention.
I have to disagree the story arcs or what makes Doctor Who a fun show to watch the fast-paced the chasing the monster seems some of them are really good can't say that about weeping angels because I actually hated that one sorry David Tennant I did especially the episode blink I don't know whoever started that one but blink and think they rhyme and I think it sucks it did suck it suck blows and it might as well have been on crack cuz that's how bad it sucks especially with that wibbly wobbly bulshit crap sorry David tenant word and its really . There was nothing fun about link by the way it sounded more like a threat than a warning
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Fugitive of the Judoon was miles better than most of the series. Especially, the finale because that was just horrendous after Ascension. Praxeus needed Nestene and was still better than Can You Hear Me? Revolution of the Daleks was hot garbage to the point I'm not excited for series 13 now. Spyfall was also epic. I only agree with your top two of Tesla's Night of Terror, which needed Racnoss, and Villa Diodati, which was just amazing. And as for Orphan 55, that stunk more than Revolution of the Daleks.
In my opinion The Haunting of Villa Diodati was the highlight of the series. Fugitive was a pretty messy episode and the finale was straight up appalling
@@justabit6526 I enjoyed Fugitive and feel like it was better than that finale. But Revolution should be way down next to Orphan 55 because it was a train wreck.
I really don't like this series, but if I had to rank them:
1. Fugitive of the Judoon (6/10)
2. Ascension of the Cybermen (5/10)
3. Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror (4/10)
4. Revolution of the Daleks (3/10)
5. The Haunting of Villa Diodati (3/10)
6. Spyfall Part 1 (3/10)
7. The Timeless Children (1/10)
8. Spyfall Part 2 (1/10)
9. Can You Hear Me? (1/10)
10. Praxeus (1/10)
11. Orphan 55 (0/10)
those ratings out of 10... no, just, no
@@MrDanZa A lot of this series is garbage. I think I was generous tbh.
@@hagridmary This series was better than most i.e. series 7, 9, and 2
@@MrDanZa I also dislike S9 and S7, but S12 is more consistently bad.
@@hagridmary series 7 had no standout episode, series 9 had too many 2 parters (2 of which were bad, in turn cutting down the quality of the season by half), and series 2 had the terrible trio (the idiot's lantern, love and monsters, and fear her). What did series 12 have? Orphan 55... that's it. The Timeless Children, although controversial, was actually well-written. If the timeless child was revealed to have been the master, i feel that the episode would be given a lot more praise
John Simms who played the original Master although there is probably a lot more was one of the best Wednesday tag I'm not saying that Sacha Dhawan isn't a good one or even a great one NOK one you're not bad he's not good he's just okay barnelli's bears in Joey at the moment
Roger Delgado played the original Master in 1971 :)
And even if we ignore classic who, Derek Jacobi played the Master before regenerating into Simm in Utopia
9. Ascension of the Cybermen/The Timeless Children
8. Orphan 55
7. Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror
6. Praxeus
5. Revolution of the Daleks
4. Fugitive of the Judoon
3. Spyfall
2. Can You Hear Me?
1. The Haunting of Villa Diodati
This is my ranking. 9. Every episode of the series
Why bother even watching this video
Thank you ever so much for SHOWING A CLIP THE ACTUAL WORST EPISODE OF DOCTOR WHO EVER!
You know which one it is, and shame on you for showing it!
Ascension of the cyberman and the next episode, are the worst episodes in all Doctor Who, the espisodes that breaks all the canonicity, after this, a true Doctor Who fan should stop watching this shit, to have at least a little honor.
Well destroying the emocional moment of the permament dead of Missy, when se became finally the friend of Doctor, a good person. And then without reason, a new evil master that can't regenerate into a new Doctor is alive and hating snother time the Doctor. And of course the stupid fans are still supporting all the shits of these seasons.
@@vashtanerada2731 There's nothing stopping the current Master from being pre-Missy, or pre-Yana for that matter. All we know is that he's probably a post-Ainley incarnation, as he made a reference to the "Jodrell Bank" (Pharos Project) incident from _Logopolis._
@@ftumschkUhmmm, maybe, that will fix that problem, I hope you're right.
It doesn't break canon, it just re-contextualises it. This type of canon altering has been a very common part of Doctor Who. Hell, Series 5 and Day of the Doctor both serve to remove things from Canon that Moffat didn't agree with.
Granted, The Timeless Children was clumsy with how it altered the canon, but it's certainly not out of the ordinary for Doctor Who.