You have to love an old R model Mack! They are definitely a working man's truck. They aren't there to say "Hey!, everybody look at me with my goofy oversized visor and other silliness". Nope, its there to get the job done and on to the next with no nonsense.
@@timmensch3601 They used to dominate her on the East Coast back in the 70s and 80s. I grew up in NJ and back then you weren't a contractor or heavy hauler if you didn't have one in your fleet.
I'm glad I found your channel. I love the older equipment you guys use and supporting a fellow Virginian. I'm in Bedford County, VA. and related to some May's here.
@@alanwilliamson9350 Nice! Thank you. We’ve done a lot of work in Bedford. I’m waiting for someone to say they saw one of our trucks on the road. Dad and my Uncle bought most of the stuff through the 90s and early 2000s And I hope to get some fresh paint on this truck it needs it. Thanks for watching
Great video! These older machines will be running long after the electronics have shut down this new equipment.R model Mack = one of the most dependable trucks ever built
Great video, love the old Mack and FiatAllis. I really enjoy your channel with all the old iron. Reminds me a lot of the equipment my Grandpa had in the 70s for his road construction company., Albeit he run all Terex and Cat scrapers. I think his biggest ones were 657s, which my Great Uncle says could haul 7 tandem dump truck loads of dirt and go 50mph down the road, because they were too big to haul around. Neat to see an old FA (as my friend Ray calls them, Flat Allison) still around, not many still kicking and making a buck.
Here on the west coast, with the big single engine scrapers, they would haul the front end on a dolly connected to the fifth wheel and let the rear wheels roll on the road when they transported it could only go like 45 mph because the rear ends would bounce like crazy on the pavement
I spent A LOT of Hours on those Old Pans.... We almost never Hauled them... We had a Big Beam Trailer and Blocking them up and Chaining them was a pain, but not as bad as Goofing Around trying to get Permits... Im here in Pa... Most of the time we would just Drive the daggone things from Job to Job... The were the Big Twin Engine CAT's and they would Run down the Road 40 plus MPH, Bouncing, Lashing, and Wriggling the whole way... Haha!
Yep we have a 627 Cat we need to move. We’ve got a bigger trailer for that monster. Don’t run any of them much anymore though. We have driven them a lot down the road, thought about doing it here, but was afraid it might blow a hose out on the road. And it did as soon as we got it off the trailer at the job site.
That old equipment reminds me back when i ran our lowboy. I use to haul 621 cat. Pans on our 35 ton eager beaver trailer. I never had to put blocks under the front wheels. I just backed them on and put the bowl down on the beaver tail and let the back wheels hang off the back. Looked bad but i never had any fall off.
@@CharlesSmith-ty2ce I would leave high school early my senior year and run this machine when I first started working. Kind of a daunting machine to jump on and figure out especially when everyone says “just don’t turn it this way on a hill or it might turn over”😅 Thanks for watching
Ok i clicked because of the r model mack... and holy crap i know the people where you picked up the pan, and then you drove right by my house!! I see my own work truck at 18:03 lol.
Nice haha that man where the pan was worked for us for a long while. Still occasionally helps. He used to drive all these trucks and recently helped on some repair work on the red dump truck. (Also I responded to your other comment on the other video) thanks for watching.
That looks just like MY Green 71' Mack with a 350 13spd minus the Bull Dog on the Nose of the truck. You would have love it Though because It had a Winch with a 1/2" cable and i installed a Wet Kit for an End Dump and wired it up for a Semi Bottom Dump. It did ALOT of work in california Highways. City streets, sub diviisions. and many many other jobs i forgot about
Cant remember the last time I've seen a Fiat Allis in person, rare machines nowadays. Those 903s were either loved or hated. They were real bad for electrolysis and hydro locking. One had to take extra care that the coolant had the proper additives. They do sound great though especially with a turbo.
I like them but like just about all engines, they have their peculiarities that need to be taken care of. We added a coolant filter to ours that didn't previously have one and that along with the correct coolant, treated it and we no longer had electrolysis problems.
ranum brand new! my problem with fat alice is limited slip differentials . by the time the other wheel would kick in u were stuck like chuck. the 613 cat had a dif lock button on floor n u could hit it before you started into mud n would not get stuck near as often as fat alice. also drove r model lowboy n dumps. good dependable trucks. back n tha day 😊
Marvelous video. @fourbanger's "Fat Alice" comment is good. @fourbanger is talking about the fact that before Fiat jumped over their heads into the earth moving scene, these big machines and everything from dozers to backhoe/loaders were made by Allis-Chalmers in West Allis, Wisconsin (Milwaukee).. A-C blew it by selling themselves to Fiat. The Italians bumped up against Caterpillar and John Deere and had to run back to Italy to focus on fast cars that fall apart. Old Allis Chalmers was left to turn into dust.
Not too many of us around keeping the old macks and equipment around that are younger. Over winter i should have videoed my work for the farm, 300 twin stick rd686 with 56000# rears. I drove it daily 10 years ago to the feed grinder in muncy. Did 2 wheel seals and the 300 dropped 2 exhaust valves in 5&6. And bent all 6 pushrods in the rear head. Damaged pistons and cylinder head. Parts are not as easy to find anymore good used. Can still get some parts new or nos. New heads are dear tho.$ 1400 bare. Most trucks that age were scrapped years ago in the scrap yards near me in pa. The old allis peaks me too. I have a 38 unstyled wc. Allis was sold off in the 70s and bounced around until agco acuired the name. I dont think they are in construction anymore. They used to be a leading mfg of almost everything imagined especially construction. They were right there in the 40s and 50s with case and cat.
@@vintagetruckgarage dang. Yeah Fiat bought Allis Chalmers heavy equipment in the mid 70s. Allis Chalmers farm equipment went into the 80s but deutz bought them and then to AGCO
My cousin had one for a long time. He moved a lot of dirt with it, but the 615 CAT's he had ran circles around it. Pretty sure his had an Allis engine.
I got around 555's and 903e's in the Army and they came one small hair of turning me totally against Cummins motors forever, BUT I sure lonve hearing that 300 in that R-model!
Brother, when ground guiding just tell the operator which way he needs to go with a simple point. Doing those tiny circles is a nightmare to see from the seat.
Drove nothing but R models years back, all with Mack 300’s or 350’s. Had a Roger’s tri-axle low boy as well. Glad I never had to use the gooseneck pony motor. What year is your Mack? Thinking it’s, 82-84.
I've got a running driving '56 model Mack B-81 fifth wheel winch truck you need. 5 speed main 4 speed Brownie power tower, rolling tail board, 220 N/A....
@@matthewkabanuk443 I need to start putting this in the description like I did for the AutoCar. It’s got a 300 with a five speed. 34,000 pound suspension with 3.87 gear ratio
@@vintagetruckgarage yeah I might make a video on it sometime and talk about it a little more. But they joke about this truck because when they got it they got it cheap and it had been wrecked and it turned out to be one of the best trucks they’ve had. It just hasn’t given much trouble. It needs to tlc though
E Mack engines will pull their hearts out and give more....the variable valve timing I'm sure adds to its performance. I've got a W Model with a 300 and a 5 speed it always amazes me....
why 🚫 get a used bigger or a longer used lowboy semi trailer so u can haul big heavy equipment???????🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 (like hauling that scraper for example)
@@avontaprice2 I was waiting for this comment. we have one that needs a little work but we needed to get this job done. We plan to have it ready to move it away.
@@geir.mathello so I was just showing that we have one as a parts machine.. Funny thing though after starting this job we blew a tire on the one in the video and I made a video of removing a tire from the one in the bushes to replace on the one we’re running. Check out the channel to find that video Thanks
@@scottvaughan473 nice! Hey, well I’m just like anyone else. But we have some much older equipment and I’ve had so many people say to me I should make videos so I started the channel.
The 903 Cummins is a mystery. It was good for over 1.000.000 miles and yet Cummins dropped it. Then 20 years later it reappears in the Armies Bradley fighting vehicle. Cummins is a poorly managed company. Im amazed they havent gone broke with some of the dumass things they have done.
@@Scott-ec4ux I don’t have control over the types of ads, not sure how that works. I can place them in certain spots though out the video but they’ll be there regardless.
You have to love an old R model Mack! They are definitely a working man's truck. They aren't there to say "Hey!, everybody look at me with my goofy oversized visor and other silliness". Nope, its there to get the job done and on to the next with no nonsense.
You never see them on the west coast probably because they are to heavy and ride like shit nothing but paccar here In heavy haul on the west coast
@@timmensch3601 They used to dominate her on the East Coast back in the 70s and 80s. I grew up in NJ and back then you weren't a contractor or heavy hauler if you didn't have one in your fleet.
I'm glad I found your channel. I love the older equipment you guys use and supporting a fellow Virginian. I'm in Bedford County, VA. and related to some May's here.
@@alanwilliamson9350 Nice! Thank you.
We’ve done a lot of work in Bedford.
I’m waiting for someone to say they saw one of our trucks on the road.
Dad and my Uncle bought most of the stuff through the 90s and early 2000s
And I hope to get some fresh paint on this truck it needs it.
Thanks for watching
@@AppalachianRust I saw the Autocar with the dump trailer a month or more back coming out of Cross Roads Market on 60.
@@carlwilliams1570 that the store on 60 by riverville?
If so my uncle got a load of compost for this job down there
@@AppalachianRust Yes
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Great video! These older machines will be running long after the electronics have shut down this new equipment.R model Mack = one of the most dependable trucks ever built
Great video, love the old Mack and FiatAllis. I really enjoy your channel with all the old iron. Reminds me a lot of the equipment my Grandpa had in the 70s for his road construction company., Albeit he run all Terex and Cat scrapers. I think his biggest ones were 657s, which my Great Uncle says could haul 7 tandem dump truck loads of dirt and go 50mph down the road, because they were too big to haul around. Neat to see an old FA (as my friend Ray calls them, Flat Allison) still around, not many still kicking and making a buck.
Here on the west coast, with the big single engine scrapers, they would haul the front end on a dolly connected to the fifth wheel and let the rear wheels roll on the road when they transported it could only go like 45 mph because the rear ends would bounce like crazy on the pavement
Nice. Old equipment is awesome
I drove a Mack and lowboy. Like yours, it had air conditioning, but so much heat comes through the floor it doesn't do much.
Man that sure was a big load for the Mack but it handled it real good Mack is a tough truck my friend. Be safe on the job and road.
I spent A LOT of Hours on those Old Pans.... We almost never Hauled them... We had a Big Beam Trailer and Blocking them up and Chaining them was a pain, but not as bad as Goofing Around trying to get Permits... Im here in Pa... Most of the time we would just Drive the daggone things from Job to Job... The were the Big Twin Engine CAT's and they would Run down the Road 40 plus MPH, Bouncing, Lashing, and Wriggling the whole way... Haha!
Yep we have a 627 Cat we need to move. We’ve got a bigger trailer for that monster. Don’t run any of them much anymore though.
We have driven them a lot down the road, thought about doing it here, but was afraid it might blow a hose out on the road. And it did as soon as we got it off the trailer at the job site.
That old equipment reminds me back when i ran our lowboy. I use to haul 621 cat. Pans on our 35 ton eager beaver trailer. I never had to put blocks under the front wheels. I just backed them on and put the bowl down on the beaver tail and let the back wheels hang off the back. Looked bad but i never had any fall off.
Thanks Young Man can't wait to see it run my uncle worked on interstates and ran that old steel 😊😊
@@CharlesSmith-ty2ce I would leave high school early my senior year and run this machine when I first started working.
Kind of a daunting machine to jump on and figure out especially when everyone says “just don’t turn it this way on a hill or it might turn over”😅
Thanks for watching
I REMEBER THE OLD R MODEL MACK THEY ARE AWESOME
That ol mack didn't care a bit that old scraper was on her back. 👍
this V8 cummins sounds nicely
Ok i clicked because of the r model mack... and holy crap i know the people where you picked up the pan, and then you drove right by my house!! I see my own work truck at 18:03 lol.
Nice haha that man where the pan was worked for us for a long while. Still occasionally helps.
He used to drive all these trucks and recently helped on some repair work on the red dump truck.
(Also I responded to your other comment on the other video) thanks for watching.
That looks just like MY Green 71' Mack with a 350 13spd minus the Bull Dog on the Nose of the truck. You would have love it Though because It had a Winch with a 1/2" cable and i installed a Wet Kit for an End Dump and wired it up for a Semi Bottom Dump. It did ALOT of work in california Highways. City streets, sub diviisions. and many many other jobs i forgot about
Great commentary and content as usual.
Cant remember the last time I've seen a Fiat Allis in person, rare machines nowadays.
Those 903s were either loved or hated. They were real bad for electrolysis and hydro locking. One had to take extra care that the coolant had the proper additives.
They do sound great though especially with a turbo.
I like them but like just about all engines, they have their peculiarities that need to be taken care of. We added a coolant filter to ours that didn't previously have one and that along with the correct coolant, treated it and we no longer had electrolysis problems.
ranum brand new! my problem with fat alice is limited slip differentials . by the time the other wheel would kick in u were stuck like chuck. the 613 cat had a dif lock button on floor n u could hit it before you started into mud n would not get stuck near as often as fat alice. also drove r model lowboy n dumps. good dependable trucks. back n tha day 😊
what a cool rig.
Cool equip. that's a gorgeous area too Ive got family in Red House..
Enjoyed the video.
Nice ol truck and trailer. Looks like fun
Marvelous video. @fourbanger's "Fat Alice" comment is good. @fourbanger is talking about the fact that before Fiat jumped over their heads into the earth moving scene, these big machines and everything from dozers to backhoe/loaders were made by Allis-Chalmers in West Allis, Wisconsin (Milwaukee).. A-C blew it by selling themselves to Fiat. The Italians bumped up against Caterpillar and John Deere and had to run back to Italy to focus on fast cars that fall apart. Old Allis Chalmers was left to turn into dust.
Allis Chalmers had a lot of things going it’s a shame it fell apart like it did
Not too many of us around keeping the old macks and equipment around that are younger. Over winter i should have videoed my work for the farm, 300 twin stick rd686 with 56000# rears. I drove it daily 10 years ago to the feed grinder in muncy. Did 2 wheel seals and the 300 dropped 2 exhaust valves in 5&6. And bent all 6 pushrods in the rear head. Damaged pistons and cylinder head. Parts are not as easy to find anymore good used. Can still get some parts new or nos. New heads are dear tho.$ 1400 bare. Most trucks that age were scrapped years ago in the scrap yards near me in pa. The old allis peaks me too. I have a 38 unstyled wc. Allis was sold off in the 70s and bounced around until agco acuired the name. I dont think they are in construction anymore. They used to be a leading mfg of almost everything imagined especially construction. They were right there in the 40s and 50s with case and cat.
@@vintagetruckgarage dang. Yeah Fiat bought Allis Chalmers heavy equipment in the mid 70s. Allis Chalmers farm equipment went into the 80s but deutz bought them and then to AGCO
old but gold
Old Paddle Pan with a Screamin' Jimmy in it..... NICE!
@@jasonbuck489 it’s a Cummins but yeah still screaming haha
i absolutely love the spot mirror just flapping in the breeze 😂
@@t335er7 someone else mentioned that haha guess I know what I’ll be fixing soon lol
@@AppalachianRust Single stack Mack with a window in the back and a barking pipe, best truck ever made 👍 have fun with her
I worked on them when they where new 1978 man them was good days
Love seeing the Melvin Morgan truck😅 they are everywhere
Haha
This is such high-quality content!
Great video! Love to see the Mighty Macks in action.
Out of curiosity why didn't you haul the Scraper to the site?
@@davieferdinand8832 you mean me personally drive the truck?
I guess I could have but my uncle knew exactly the route he wanted to take.
My cousin had one for a long time. He moved a lot of dirt with it, but the 615 CAT's he had ran circles around it. Pretty sure his had an Allis engine.
I've ran alot of scrapers ts14 terex, 260 fiat, and 621 cats. They are all a pain in the rear to load!
@@jlmarvin5277 yes haha
Hi James, you could use a 6 speed in that truck should the opportunity ever arise 😉
Yeah it could use those lower gears
Cummins v5 in pan ?
Or 3208 Cat?
Air tires down better traction on soft ground.
@@MitzvosGolem1 it’s a V8 Cummins.
He ran through a stump hole, it was still wet underneath from a recent rain
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Thank you
Sounds like a Cat 1160/3208 in that scraper.
V8 Cummins straight exhaust
@@AppalachianRust 903 or 555?
@@rodneygrant7726 903
While reversing that scrapper sounds a bit like an old 1940s emd diesel locomotive.
that little spot mirror is hangin on aint it😂
For dear life haha.
You should have seen the mirrors on the dump truck before I started making videos..
R600 best truck Mack ever built
Ol Mack keeps going after many other trucks give it up
The amount of mountain land that being cleared for houses is insane… what are the lots going to go for? 20k?
@@flir67man84 I’m not sure but I wouldn’t doubt it.
The land owner will probably build spec houses on each lot.
Bonjour ,c est délicat a conduire cette " grosse bète " 😄 mais le conducteur connait la dompter et gérer 👍 bonne vidéo merci a toi salutation .
My home state...❤❤❤
I got around 555's and 903e's in the Army and they came one small hair of turning me totally against Cummins motors forever, BUT I sure lonve hearing that 300 in that R-model!
@@lewiemcneely9143 yeah I’ve heard that they weren’t a very popular engine
@@AppalachianRust I get disgusted even thinking about them.
Brother, when ground guiding just tell the operator which way he needs to go with a simple point. Doing those tiny circles is a nightmare to see from the seat.
Drove nothing but R models years back, all with Mack 300’s or 350’s. Had a Roger’s tri-axle low boy as well. Glad I never had to use the gooseneck pony motor. What year is your Mack? Thinking it’s, 82-84.
@@slayer2261 this truck’s actually an 86.
It has a 300 with a 5 speed.
@@AppalachianRust Tan interior, forgot it was used up to 86. Gray after that. Thank you.
Top esse fiat allis scriper qual engines dessa maquina cummins ou detroit diesel ?!
Cummins 903 V8
@@AppalachianRust obrigado parceiro 🤝👍
I've got a running driving '56 model Mack B-81 fifth wheel winch truck you need. 5 speed main 4 speed Brownie power tower, rolling tail board, 220 N/A....
@@fourbanger haha intriguing
What are the mechanicals on that R600? (Engine trans, suspension, etc)
@@matthewkabanuk443 I need to start putting this in the description like I did for the AutoCar.
It’s got a 300 with a five speed. 34,000 pound suspension with 3.87 gear ratio
Sounds like a light built truck for local hauls, especially with that gear ratio. 300 is a strong engine.
@@vintagetruckgarage yeah I might make a video on it sometime and talk about it a little more. But they joke about this truck because when they got it they got it cheap and it had been wrecked and it turned out to be one of the best trucks they’ve had.
It just hasn’t given much trouble. It needs to tlc though
@AppalachianRust same with ours. Is beat and has had major problems but it is the least problem truck. Starts everytime and does its job
E Mack engines will pull their hearts out and give more....the variable valve timing I'm sure adds to its performance. I've got a W Model with a 300 and a 5 speed it always amazes me....
A Fat Alice....cool
Yes sir
why 🚫 get a used bigger or a longer used lowboy semi trailer so u can haul big heavy equipment???????🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 (like hauling that scraper for example)
@@avontaprice2 I was waiting for this comment. we have one that needs a little work but we needed to get this job done.
We plan to have it ready to move it away.
@@AppalachianRust so u got a bigger lowboy trailer then the one you have in this video???????🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@avontaprice2 yep
@@AppalachianRust ok.
@@AppalachianRust can make a video of u using it????
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What those who were in the bushes?
I want to see video from when you moved those bushes, not from 06:35
Have a nice day
Best regards from Norway
@@geir.mathello so I was just showing that we have one as a parts machine..
Funny thing though after starting this job we blew a tire on the one in the video and I made a video of removing a tire from the one in the bushes to replace on the one we’re running.
Check out the channel to find that video
Thanks
I’ll Be dipped a RUclips channel close to Me. I’m Here in Providence Forge Virginia. But I haul to Lynchburg weekly
@@scottvaughan473 nice! Hey, well I’m just like anyone else. But we have some much older equipment and I’ve had so many people say to me I should make videos so I started the channel.
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Shoot im right over the mountain in waynesboro lol
Howdy neighbor
@@AppalachianRust love the channel keep up the great work man!
@@agray_lowboost thank you
Them maxidyne engines & maxitorque transmissions areTOUGH
Absolutely
The 903 Cummins is a mystery. It was good for over 1.000.000 miles and yet Cummins dropped it. Then 20 years later it reappears in the Armies Bradley fighting vehicle. Cummins is a poorly managed company. Im amazed they havent gone broke with some of the dumass things they have done.
Interesting
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@@Scott-ec4ux I don’t have control over the types of ads, not sure how that works.
I can place them in certain spots though out the video but they’ll be there regardless.
Run trucks like this daily they'll out last this overpriced crap any day