Az steals eggs...but they don't taste right
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Fifteen eggs?... At the current rate of inflation, that's like 743 dollars.
First I lol'd, then I seriously'd. 😭
Hahaha, best comment.
😂😂😂😂😂
7.43 is a bit closer. maybe school isn’t worth quitting Ehy
Yea his livestock guardian dog really sucks at the guarding part but the dude doesn’t want to admit it
Fun fact: birds are immune to capsaicin. That's why the ducks don't mind the hot sauce.
Thats why they eat my fries and nuggetts
Yep plants developed capsaicin to deter things from eating them but birds evolved to basically not have a reaction to it since their main food source is seeds and plants.
And part of that is because mammals chew seeds up. But birds will eat the peppers and swallow the seeds whole, so they disperse the seeds for the pepper plant.
and if you save hot pepper seeds they like them.
Yeah, parrots like chili seeds. Don't seem to bother them a bit.
Eucalyptus oil. That’s all I have to say . He will never go near an eggs ever again. All my shoes have a couple drops of eucalyptus oil on the sole they freaking HATE it.
yep, my cousin's massive german shepherd is afraid of my shoes now. one drop for my face, one drop on each shoe lol
Would eucalyptus oil be a problem for his birds?
@@JoseTorres-mg3mx yeah it might be. You wanna be careful cause the ducks need to be near the eggs. Hot sauce is really great cause it burns the mouths of mammals, but birds don't have any reaction: they don't have receptors that respond to the "hot" plant chemicals.
Could put it in nest material.
I'm pretty sure eucalyptus is extremely poisonous to dogs and cats though. Dunno if I'd recommend letting them ingest it.
My wife said build a ducky door that Az can't fit through.
I was going to post that same suggestion!
But that would leave access for small predators and Az unable to intervene, I guess?
@@lisabyte put bolt on it to shut it at night
@@lisabyteI feel like Az would jump over the parts with no wall in that case... But that certainly is a conundrum, might be teaching undesirable things to him and predators even then yeah
The problem is that the ducks lay eggs everywhere and anywhere and there will be times Az finds them before Nate does.
Wait he stole 15 eggs? Lord Minion needs have a serious war room conversation with General Az….this destructive behavior will not be tolerated in the rank and file.
Yep in previous short plus its worse he was trying to hatch them out
😂 Love it!
Might need a little intervention fr 2:09 om Esquire Hoppington the Nocturnal (The Toad)
My neighbors planted peppers to keep dogs out of their garden. My dog jumped the fence to chew the peppers.
The pepper seeds they sell these days are weak compared to what they were 15 years ago. I’ve stop regarding jalapeños as spicy, not that they can’t be, but the giant ones that every grocery store sells, are about as hot as an Anaheim.
@@bill-or-somthingbill4390 hot?!
ha. i love the taste as they are not spicy anymore :D
but i did try the ghost. that was also pretty good. spicy. not to spicy for the "hot" but if it leaves side effects its probly to hot! lol
at least the doggo wasnt really doing it maliciously.. well not yet..
@@bill-or-somthingbill4390 I'm 72, this was long ago. Poor dogs been dead for 50 years.
@@bill-or-somthingbill4390I'd believe stores seeds are tamer, but we also live at a time where you can get some of the hottest varieties to ever exist shipped to your doorstep for under $10. If heat is what you're after, you're in luck!
@@BildgesmytheI'm sorry, hope he lived a long life
Ducks, like birds in general, aren't bothered by capsaicin. That's why they tell you to mix cayenne pepper in with your bird seed to discourage squirrels raiding the bird feeder. It's the difference between lips and beaks
Well, you're half-right. It doesn't have anything to do with mouth vs. beak.
It's the fact that birds lack the taste receptors that mammals have, which detect capsaicin (the hot, burny chemical).
Not-so-fun fact: Mammals also have those same receptors in the other end, (front and back too), hence why hot peppers can sometimes burn twice.
Once on the way in, and once on the way out. Also why you should wash your hands after handling strong peppers.
@@MartinFinnerup or wear gloves.
Thank you for correcting that.
You could try an ID on his collar and a sensor on the door to notify you when he's close to the coup. You can watch on the cam to see if he's stealing and correct accordingly. I can't currently find the one we used on the farm, but that was the easiest way we found to train our dogs, we just had to haul ass when we saw
OH that's a GREAT idea! There's all kinds of tutorials on how to DIY these sorts of doggy doors and stuff now; could have the chips react and send a notification to the phone instead of closing a door like in the tutorial videos (for stopping dogs from eating cat litter - the RFID on the tags triggers the action to close door when dog approaches and open when dog leaves - a similar thing can be done to trigger a notification instead, I'm sure).
That'd be a fairly quick notice, and if it's paired with one of those pet-cams where you can speak through the camera at the animal, then maybe more immediate corrections can happen while Nate or Jen are on-route to the duck coup!
I know they have the cameras with motion detectors for pets but those get a little pricey and it might be cheaper to DIY instead... Either way, that's a good idea~! :)
I wonder if he watches Minion collecting eggs and thinks they're free to eat
If whole raw eggs are fed to minion, and minion obviously knows where the eggs come from, it's highly likely that Nate also fed whole eggs to Az
That is obviously not whats happening
More like he just hasn’t learned not to do this yet… he’s still a puppy after all
@@recoveringsoul755nate does feed eggs to az. Maybe making sure he only eats cracked ones might help.
The reason the ducks don't mind the hot sauce, is because birds don't have the molecular receptors that react to capsaicin.
Yup. That’s why peppers evolved capsaicin. Mammals crush seeds, birds don’t. They want to be spread by birds, not mammals.
Love the way you assess the situation and explain how it is not the dog's fault, and how you'll work to tech him different.
Idk about him not being at fault, Az clearly knows he's not supposed to eat the eggs.
@@jonskillings1258 curiousity perhaps. Boredom? Itll be harder now that he's gotten a taste. Aside from tasting good, he might needed the extra calcium. I understand hes close to year old but his breed still technically grows another year or so right?
I'm pretty sure he gets an occasional raw egg in his food, so he will have to learn that he can't go have some outside the bowl.
Now you have a dog that likes hot stuff!!!
He'll be knocking on the door saying eggs need hot sauce!😂
Perhaps a camera with a motion sensor could help, it would let you know when to check the feed and catch him in the act
Having worked in CCTV security and knowing how motion sensing cameras work, looking at this video there's absolutely no way I would be able to trust the footage without reviewing it extensively anyways. It's going to pick up on Az just walking around for the most part when he just hangs around in that area, setting them off near constantly, so about the same amount of footage would be recorded and need to be looked over just as much.
Another factor is changes in lighting (clouds can set off motion cams) and small things like plants or bugs can do it too. Just about anything can set them off, even just cloud shadows. The way the ones I worked with functioned was to take a baseline still image and compare it to the next one and calculate how many pixels are a different color and count that towards the motion tracking software, which can create frequent false positives in outdoor areas.
While it's a great idea, it's not a perfect solution, and motion cameras are pretty expensive for ones that aren't low quality and easily activated by the slightest breeze. This is just my formerly professional opinion, as my knowledge of motion tracking software/hardware is dated back to 2016.
@@Sphendrana fair enough, I have no real knowledge on subject.
My thought was since it is inside a small barn area, then having something that picks up on movement inside and pings your phone to watch the live footage would enable him to check if Az is the one who triggered it, if so then he can correct him immediately. If it works for ring doorbells I would’ve thought it could work for this but again, I’m just working off logic and have no experience in this. Interesting subject
Problem: This is a duck coop. The ducks would simply activate the sensor themselves when going back and forth.
You could put the sensor higher up from the ground so that only az activates it, but that would still cause false alarms if the ducks fly into the coop instead of walking.
@@jaykay9090 yeah there's way too much motion for that to be viable, but the idea is decent. If it was possible to only trigger when Az moves, then it would work.
@@MarangTerap but if the ducks are secured at night and Az only steals the eggs in the day, then could you not only have it activated during the daytime? Or are the devices incapable of being deactivated for certain periods of time.
From a 1941 appellate case in Mississippi.
In the case of Hull v. Scruggs, 191 Miss. 66, 2 So.2d 543 (1941), the MSSC reversed. Justice Griffith wrote the following for the court:
It is a fact of common knowledge that when a dog has once acquired the habit of egg-sucking there is no available way by which he may be broken of it, and that there is no calculable limit to his appetite in the indulgence of the habitual propensity. And generally he has a sufficient degree of intelligence that he will commit the offense, and return to it upon every clear opportunity, in such a stealthy way that he can seldom be caught in the act itself.
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Thought it was interesting. If all else fails, some reinforcement to the coup might be in hand. Ducks can fit into tighter spots than Az. Might be fun creating a duck castle. Might even be easier than training as well. All the best 👍
...." that dirty old egg sucking dog".... as the old tune goes
I have no doubt that you will train Az to do what’s right. You take such amazing care of all the animals on the Homestead. I pray it doesn’t take you forever to teach him. Lol.
One problem with having a smart kid or a smart dog, you always have to be smarter than they are! ❤❤😂❤
Thanks for phrasing "accidental training" the way you did. Many people blame the dog, not realizing you can unintentionally train the wrong thing. I have somehow trained my dog to freak out when I leave the house. Have to adjust to train the right thing.
I don't suppose you could install a gate with bars wide enough for ducks but not Az? Or maybe a door with a duck-sized flap?
he has mentioned that this will stop AZ from going in to protect the ducks if a racoon or fox goes in ans eats everything, so AZ is still their best chance for survival
hotter sauce. best of luck to you
cayenne powder
Ghost or carolina reaper maybe?
pure capsaicin
@@femboichik that could really hurt him
I wonder if there's a way to go with his instinct like you usually do... I've seen ppl say maybe he sees minion get them and might think they're ok. I've also seen gold Shaw farm on here make sure he always cracks eggs he gives their dogs so they no whole eggs are a no no, and only the ones in bowls. Sorry if mentioning another channel is taboo, just figured you'd need it if you wanna look em up! Good luck!
Why would Nate care if you mention another channel?
It's not like that takes away from his content in any way, nor are they in direct competition.
Yeah, Morgan at Gold Shaw Farm has been working for 2 years to train Abby Dog not to chase/play with/kill chickens. It's finally starting to work, but she really does better with the cattle than the birds.
Az, smarter than your average bear!😊❤❤❤❤
Try teaching him Leave It, and some other command when he can have it. He'll get it. He's just a growing big ol boy. Hi Jen!
Give him a better reward for giving you the egg. "Correcting him" for taking eggs will just train him that it's ok to take eggs if you're not looking and not ok when you're looking. Rewarding him with something better than eggs when he brings them to you will teach him that eggs are not for eating. After that you can train him to bring random eggs to the duck house instead of you. Then he'll just accept that this is where eggs go and he's not supposed to eat them.
What about using something bitter/sour in an egg IE lemon juice or vinegar? My dog made the most hilarious face when he snuck a bit of my tea, light sugar with lemon. He only did that once and forever made faces when I'd offer him a piece of lemon.😂
Just a thought ❤
My Anatolian and Pom love eggs. If I break one or they’re super dirty I’ll give them those eggs. The Pom can’t carry or crack an egg so he’s not too bad. The AS will get eggs that are laid outside the chicken yard, but won’t pick up an egg around me unless I tell him it’s OK. My first Anatolian would stick his face in water to get eggs, we’d put them in the water tubs and he’d go for it. I don’t mind them eating a few eggs but too many and my Anatolian can make a vapor cloud you can’t walk through! 😂 I’ve had my little farm for over 30 years and I always enjoy watching ppl find the same joy I found long ago. Therapy is probably cheaper but the animals are so rewarding.✌🏼
A MOTION SENSOR UP AS HIGH AS AZ , WILL ALERT YOU THAT IT IS HIM WHO IS ENTERING THE COOP !!
Duck sized door in the man door.
This.
That way small predators will get through but not Az :|
@@TheImmilky I don't think they're going to make it in there during the day time and the ducks are inside and outside during the daytime so they still have access to the flock regardless.
The door would be fine for daytime use and it's all locked at nighttime anyways so Az had no access to begin with at night which is the peak time for predators.
Az just loves the eggs. Everyone has his own favorite dish!
A neighbor cautioned me NEVER LET DOGS EAT EGGS. His father's dogs learned to eat eggs...and they had no game to hunt. The dogs ate all the eggs in the woods.
He spent his childhood in Germany in poverty after WWII. Hunting and gathering was a crucial part of his family's survival back then.
That doesn't make your neighbor right because they said it. Eggs, esp quell eggs, are excellent for a dogs diet. Besides the point Az is not a hunting dog and Nate is not depending on his dog for food like in WWII. I'm sorry but that point is not relevant to Nate and eggs are good for a dogs diet.
@@tatltael2266 While they are good for a dog, they are also completely unnecessary if you feed your dog right. Your point is even more irrelevant, cause eggs are better not being gobbled up by a greedy pup.
Nate, you're very practical and patient, which is what it takes to get animals to go against their nature. He's a good dog. It'll be worth the effort. 😇🥰💞💯
You could mount one of those motion sensors that blows air about 2.5-3 feet up on the door. That way minion and the ducks can walk under it, but Az will set it off.
Best of luck! I'm sure like you said you guys have plenty of training to do, but just as we've seen with Minion needing refreshers for some stuff, eggs seem to be Azlans thing hell need reminding and training on. 3:22
Also to people recommending hotter sauce, it still most likely wouldn't work. He knows he likes eggs and isn't supposed to have them, just because they taste bad or strange won't change the face that he knows he likes them just not THOSE eggs. Plus there's no reason to try and cause pain to learn.
What is a good solution?
@ayasha89games66 Training, redirecting, and positive reinforcement of what you do want him to do. It's probably not something that you can completely train out but encouraging other behavior, keeping the eggs in a harder to reach area, and possibly something like if he doesn't touch the eggs like he's supposed to he gets a positive reward so he will be redirected at that reward as good while eggs are bad.
aw man, Az is getting his proteins in :) This dude is gonna get so jacked.
Hot sauce doesn´t affect ducks as they lack the taste receptor required for tasting capsaicin. Hot peppers developed capsaicin to deter mammals from them, because mammals digestive system can digest the seeds and render them useless. If a bird eats it though, it is beneficial for the plant, because birds can´t digest those seeds and spread them over a bigger area when they come from the rear end. That is why hot peppers took advantage of mammal ability to taste capsaicin. Even fish and reptiles can´t taste it.
Why don't you make a smaller entrance to where the ducks lay so he just can't fit through the door.
Because the ducks lay in various places around the homestead not just the coop :/ And it doesn't fix the root problem - Az needs to be trained to not go after eggs period.
@@tatltael2266 so no eggs at all in the meantime?
Birds and animals who don't have salivary glands/mucus membranes in their mouth do not get affected by capsaicin. That's why you can spike bird food with hot sauce or hot pepper flakes and similar to keep squirrels and similar pests out of the bird food. A bit of Chilli flakes or powder in the chickens food will help make their eggs taste better too. Plus it helps as an antibiotic if I remember right.
He's such a lovely dog
You'll get it figured out. Good start with the jacked up eggs.
Well time to buy some incubators
Best idea I've seen yet. Doing it old fashion is cool but I bet az quickly learned to like the eggs so good luck training him out of it.
@@Hi98765 I think although I'm not an expert that a combination of my idea and that person who said train as to collect the eggs and give them to Nate and then Nate would reward him with a few of the eggs that also sounds like a good idea.
Birds can't taste capsaicin. The whole reason it exists is to make sure birds are the ones to eat the pepper and spread the seeds.
That's why they don't mind hot sauce.
You need to sit Az down and tell him about inflation.
Maybe you could set some kind of trip alarm that goes off if he goes in the entrance to the coop. You trained the ducks to the bell. If he hears an alarm he knows he’s in big trouble……every time.
Perhaps you could make a smaller door that Az can't get into, but the ducks can. Makes more sense than you having to keep tabs on him.
I had to parrots they love really hot peppers. They don't suffer from the side effects of capsaicin
He's jealous he sees minion carrying out basket full of eggs.
I am definitely curious to see how smart he is with the eggs. I know bears are that smart.
That always works, Nate. That's how we have trained dogs for several generations. Az will not want eggs to eat anymore.
You can also fill them with vinegar.
You need to spray bitterant, not hot sauce. Some mammals are masochists and like hot sauce and that sauce probably isn’t all that hot. All mammals hate bitter. Get yourself some bitter apple spray. It’s animal safe, non-toxic, won’t hurt them. It just tastes very bad.
I remember spraying bitter apple once. Never again. Plus it was good for not even two days. Yeah my cat left the furniture alone but the awful stench of the bitter apple wasn't worth it. I thought it would just mainly smell bad to him not rob me of breathing normally.
Had a dog that stole the sausage from my plate . Was a very spicy kind. She never took food from my plate again and every time i ate looked at me like I did her wrong. Probably was as little fun for her going in as out. She was the type that ate faster then she tasted
What about having a device on his collar that will notify you when he goes into the coop? Or something like a ring doorbell in the coop where you get movement notifications
Try mustard or horseradish, its worked for me in the past.
Plot twist - Az loves hot sauce….😂
A situation like this would absolutely infuriate me. I look forward to learning how you manage this!
I used tobasco sauce to save my door jambs from my gsd. Great training idea-and ground black pepper sprinkled judiciously will also work well! Thanks for everything. ❤ from Canada
15 eggs in one sitting is the sort of thing a bodybuilder would eat
Couldn’t you build a really strong small opening that only the ducks can fit through so he can’t get to the eggs?
Poor Az, 😊 Hopefully your training goes well
You could make a dutch door at the duck coop. A space under the door for the ducks to go in or out but big egg stealers cannot get in.
Can you make a small door the size for ducks to go in and out. Some what like a cat door And then close the big door. That way Az can not enter the duck coup. But the ducks can still go in and out.
The Az Tax is finally kicking in and its costing nate exactly 2 eggs every 2 days
Maybe you can rig a motion sensor that would trigger an air horn if he gets near the nests. If the sound doesn't stop him, it'll bring you & his stealth raiding would be over. Eventually anytime he sees the horn, he'll stop so he doesn't trigger it.
I was gonna suggest something like this! I can't wait to see how it works! Maybe a small shock when he tries to pick them up?
I'm surprised Az didn't smell the hot sauce and figure out that if an egg smells that way, it's a dud! Man, 15 eggs in one sitting is still so wild to me. Best of luck to find a training method that works for Az on this
Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, birds do not have capsaicin receptors therefore are not effected by it.
I tried that with a lab that stole food off the counter, she just learned to like hot sauce! Good luck
Could you put him on live with a way for us to alert you.
Great job with patience. Big dogs eat anything they want. Consistency is key trust me I know. At least it's not dirty diapers. 😮
Fun fact: birds aren’t affected by capsaicin! They don’t possess the receptors necessary to perceive spicy, so they don’t taste it! Some people will actually put pepper flakes, and other spicy things, in chicken feed or bird seed to deter mammals from eating food meant for birds!
Make a recording at the nest site that has verbal correction from you.
Was just about to go to your site and suggest english mustard 😂
Nate if anyone can do it it's you we believe in you all
Look for a device called the "dazzer" dog training device. Electronic dog whistle. Can be made to go off when he enters the shed.
Oh by the way, hot sauce or hot pepper flakes will assist your ducks, chickens and geese to lay longer each season. Don't harm them in any way but it builds on their chemicals to lay eggs longer.
Smart boy!
Birds can't taste spice! They don't have the capsaicin receptors.
So to the ducks, this was just some nice seasoning lol
Az was moving in stealth mode when he was inspecting them eggs
He's a smart dog , he'll learn to leave em alone. With your tutelage.
Can you make a duck door on the coop for during the day? Something that lets the ducks in an out, but is too small for Az. Won't help with the ones around the yard, but it might help a bit?
Most (if not all) chilly plant species have specifically evolved to be spicy to mammals to deter them from eating the plants, but not be spicy to birds, so they can eat them and help disperse the seeds over a larger area. That is why As doesn't like it but the ducks can eat it without any trouble.
He's a smart dog, good idea making the funny tasting eggs, but now you should cook some eggs with him and give him 1 while you eat them, he wont take his eyes off you or the stove while you do, it will teach him that you rely on them too, and that they taste better when YOU cook them. Teach him that he is the PROTECTOR of the eggs and he gets rewarded for doing so.
I tried the hot sauce routine on my dog, to try to get him not to teeth on furniture. It backfired. My dog likes hot sauce (and vingar, pepper, etc). 😩
At the pet store they have a spray or something that's safe but it tastes nasty and deters animals from biting or chewing on stuff. You could try spraying the eggs with it and see if that helps.
Yeah I was going to suggest that it's called bitter apple spray. I recommended it for cats that like to chew on
cords. Think it could be sprayed on eggs but I don't know if the taste would absorb through the shell and make them taste bad for human consumption or affect future baby birds.
My doggo LIKES hot sauce. I watched him eat tabasco peppers off the plant. Weird.
Birds in general do not mind peppers because capsaicin doesn't really affect them unlike all us mammals.
Capsaicin is what causes the spicy heat of most peppers. Birds are widely unaffected by it or are minimally affected by it. Mammals on the other hand we have to deal with the pain lol.
So you could sprinkle some hot powders on eggs and among the coop they would be fine for the birds, it also deters small mammals as well like rats or mice.
Duck door
Joke's on you Nate, now Az just wants a dash of Tobasco on dinner.
Yeah definitely build a door but it’s still a good idea to train your dogs. 😊
Installing an tripwire type or alarm, Thinking about pressure plate because he big boy will set it off and the ducks not. And some chilli flakes around/in the nest. So all eggs will be smelling like hot stuff.
Making a dutchie-duck door? 😂
I don't know for sure but I have read that most birds don't taste (or care about) the heat from most kinds of peppers. If the pepper fruit was intact and the birds were flying around, that could help disperse seeds.
The hot sauce is a good idea. I've trained dogs to not snitch food that way. Unlike mammals, birds can't sense "heat" in foods, which is why they can eat things like ghost peppers without flinching.
Needs whirpool mom. How cute
Did you ever think when you were a little kid that you would make a living just filming your everyday life? Strange times we live in brother. . .
🐕 temptation and boredom is tricky 🤷🏽♀️but he’s a gorgeous top 🐕 ❤️Az
Damn! The wisdom! Even if u weren't a RUclips influencer, u could make a living training dogs, Nate.
You know he is really a foodie when he starts pairing the hot sauces eggs with the real eggs
One thing that might stop him from is maybe put a collar that will make a noise he doesn't like. I think they make collars that you can set a boundary that aren't shock collars that uses an app to set a boundary and if the dog goes past that it gives off the noise. But just a suggestion to try to stop him from taking eggs.
I had a cat and dog that loved hot peppers.
We had a cat that loved Thai red curry sauce on chicken - would frantically try to get on the table to get some
It's my understanding that spices are good for birds and that they don't taste the heat.
Long long ago some plants in the nightshade family evolved capsaicin to protect their fruits from animals that wouldn't spread the seeds like birds do (mammals) since birds lack that sensitivity. Then humans decided they likea da spicea and started cultivating them.
@@womanishthing1994 thank you