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This Zero Breeze Mark II unit is pretty much the best option that we've found for DC powered air conditioning for a van. This means that you can run it straight off your power supply, without having to turn on your inverter or plug into shore power.
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ADVICE: Use a drip pan with the Zero Breeze. Water does leak from the unit with movement. I use a plastic lid from a storage bin - works great.
Advice. Consider separating the exhaust and fresh air intake on the outside of the van more. When they are close like yours you will be mixing hot air in with the fresh making it much less efficient.
Actually doesn’t matter as the intake is on the other side by the cold air out put. (Otherwise the company would suggest separation or the design would be different)
@@MannyWClearn to read woman, he’s talking about “the exhaust and fresh air intake on the outside of the van”
If the intake is sucking hot air from the exhaust it will be much less efficient.
I insulated very well and put in an automatic car ignition on my starter, with control tubes from my a/c back to the living area...i run van a little and use lithium fans to move the air.
Keep an eye on the duct tape, it tends to dry out in HVAC applications, I would consider swapping it for foil tape
This is what I was going to say, foil tape is made for this stuff
It's about as expensive as buying the batteries and solar setup for a full size ac unit. $800.00. $1200 full solar 24v-48v system you could build yourself and that cost is including the a.c. unit too. Easly get 5-7 hours per full charge using a 5000 btu a.c. js.
And that would cool ur entire van this thing only cools like a swamp cooler!!
Hey I’m a trucker. I think this will be perfect for me. I have a 3000 watt pure sine inverter hooked to battery bank of truck with 4/0 copper cables. Fuse 200amp on battery side and 200 amp(anl) on inverter side. Do you sell basic package( no battery). My truck has an opti idle system, to where if it senses low voltage it kicks the truck on to prevent low battery voltage, so I think this will definitely help me during hot summer nights in Texas when I don’t want to idle the truck all the time for a/c. What do you think? Thanks
Can you do a video about your walkable solar panels? That would be very helpful. Very enjoyable videos. Thank you. I love your Innovations.
I love your professionalism.
Working on the planning for a van conversion now. I’m a seasonal boat worker down in Florida, and as you know it can get hot and humid during summer months! I’ve been worried out of my mind on how I’m going to cool the van enough to leave my dog in the van while away on work shift (2-4 hrs)... all I can say is I’m glad I found this video and a huge thanks for your information. Would love to learn more and see how it has worked for you so far! Cheers 🤙🏽
I would b careful i almost went this route after much research fearing the crazy PA heat n humidity BUT found out from someone that has this in their van that it only cools u if u r sitting right in front of it n 4 me that is not worth $1400.!!!!
How is this working out? Have you been in any really hot weather (Florida heat and humidity) yet?
I’m definitely gonna check one of these out for my modular conversion I’m doing. A note about that duct coming out of the unit providing your air, that harsh 180 degree turn might hurt your airflow and efficiency. When running dust collection piping even a 90 degree kills your airflow so I’d think a similar principal applies here. Awesome to see this unit setup in a permanent way like this!! How has it done to cool off the van space so far?
As well as the 4" to 3" reduction on an already small unit may have very negative results
Check out the site, its says it's not made to cool a room, it's only made to cool a area Directly in front. I gave up on that idea after that.
yeah those restrictions are not good. dont want to strain that fan etc...
@@thomas4315 I heard the same thing...thought this was my solution and talked 2 some1 that had it in their van n they said it was only cool sitting right in front of it!! I was like 4 $1400 heck NO...i can buy a "swamp cooler" 4 $30 which it sounds like the same thing!!! I was SO close 2 buying this so glad i didn't! I mean i think the price is 2 high anyway even if it would cool the entire van.
It’s been working amazing to cool off the zone it’s pointed at! I pull my duct into the sheets with me and it keeps my bed ice cold when it’s unbearable to sleep
flex is your worst enemy for efficient air movement.. flex creates so much resistance for normal air handlers nevermind a micro Air Conditioner... to make matters worse you aren't even running the full size diameter of the outlet and choked it down to 3".
Installing some solid duct.. even PVC pipe will reduce the static pressure and allow the tiny fan to more fully output its rated cfm.
I couldn't agree with you on this more. It is so important to have a smooth pipe and less bends to mitigate resistance. It will make a huuuuge difference in performance. You can even test it out with a temp gun and/or anemometer to see the results.
I have one on order plus their new Indiegogo 2200 Elechive electric generator. I will use this setup in my RV Transport semi truck with a curtain blocking off the back sleeping area for hot nights in my confined sleeping area. NOT for the whole truck interior........hello!
I don't think most people get it.........this is meant for small confined areas........if you do that, IT WORKS.
You might benefit with a curtain too.
Look forward to hearing more on how its working for you.
Yes!!!! Only will cool maybe a bed area!
Ok ..
I watch a lot of these videos & have started to be kinda critical.
I have a 10,000 btu window air conditioning unit with a compressor that runs on 120volt ac and have installed it in a mini van to test its ability to cool the van. Even with that unit I had to put a pop up tent over the van and black out the windshield to get my daytime temperature to be acceptable. Night time was more easier for the unit as the radiant heat from the sun was no longer a factor.
The unit featured in this video claims to be a quarter of the btu and never mentions a compressor... see how light it is when he picks it up? I’m willing to wager this is a peltier device. A simple internet search will show you how they work.
If you are serious about van life this unit may not give you the desired effect.
It is not a Peltier unit, its actually got a compressor in it but like u said is just not powerful enough.
You can connect the condensation water tube to a water tank and use the water. Or even connect to a Berkey water filter system and use as drinking water.
Seems a bit strange that the hot air output and the cold air input is side by side like that.
I think it’s that way due to the packaging of the hardware, but you are correct. It’s important to have separation between the input/output. It’s one of the reasons why this unit doesn’t do so well in non ducted demos. Ideally the ports on the outside need to have more separation but perhaps the proximity to the wall prevented routing the ducts.
Supposed to be at least 1' apart
Why is it strange? You're obviously supposed to have hoses ran in different areas
I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that... 🤦🏻♂️
i dunno, with a long run of ducting running right next to the exterior it seems like you are gonna "lose lots of cold" (i.e., gain lots of heat) before the air even exits into the cabin. better insulate the hell outta that! sweet ac though, *definitely* gonna check it out.
Yeah that’s not how it works honestly man! No temp lost on the ducting
@@shaidenvalentine1 fair enough. :)
@@shaidenvalentine1 "Honestly"? That's literally how it works. It's called "conduction, and you appear to have metal and metal (which are good conductors). Insulation exists for a reason. Myopic response to some constructive feedback.
Heat rises and the cold air sinks, so for better results the ac should be as high as you can place it. Also you should give as much room around the vents as possible to allow good air flow. This set up is less reliable and will take longer to cool the van and use more energy.
Horrible idea. Air flow is probable reduced by half if not more. Turbulence within those flex pipes slows the air down. The length and each bend slows it more. If you want to duct it, use solid pipes and limit the number of bents. Look at building codes for clothes dryer vents as an example.
I've only seen one system work(little Debbie van) he had a generator bolted down on the rear step bumper, and a 10,000 btu window unit placed in front(hole cut out)kept him cool, and his snacks! All these other systems are built just to blow on you, keep you cool by blowing on you. How do I know, I've tried just about everything myself!
think if i had a big van with plenty of room for stand alone AC unit i would go that route. upgrade to big solar, or small generator to power it
Should you separate the in and out airlets further apart? Hot air will go back from the inlet.
very nice
Did these vent covers just have a mesh fly filter or an air filter? I can't seem to find any with an air filter unless you made your own..
Love this guy...smart. Great work. ❤️🇬🇧
Thanks!!
Dang those are expensive! Mine isn’t nicely hidden, 5k btu window unit, and it was a fraction of the price. BUT it keeps me cool and at times too cool. The Zero Breeze is sleek and probably quieter, but I can’t see spending that much on a unit you will only use 4 months out of the year. Yeah, I’m cheap AF! LOL. Good luck with the business side, hope it works out for you! 🙏🏽✌🏽💖
I’d be willing to bet..... it would work a lot better if you didn’t runnit thru all that ducting.
Also bet this thing wouldn’t stand a chance in Arizona this time of year.
Can you make a video about how you made that bed that raises and lowers from the ceiling in your collaboration video ? And maybe explain how you did the whole van ?
Just a quick question, does the zero breeze make the humidity levels go up?
The newly released Ecoflow DC 4K BTU looks compelling for van builds. Maybe next build you can test out one of these units.
wow you got a lot of hose going on there....your expecting a lot from that lil fan in AC unit
You mentioned the two ports on the back are one for air intake and the other to exhaust heat… Instead of having them both out do you think The air intake port can be channelled inside the van to act as a recirculating air?
you would then be blowing cold air from inside to the outside, lowering the efficiency, its a 2 part unit, when cooling the inside it draws air from the inside to the front, cools it, then blows it back inside, the heat then goes to the rear of the unit, draws air from outside, heats it, then blows the heat outside.
I wonder if it could work better if the unit was taken apart so that the compressor could be more thermally isolated from the evaporator. In other words, turning it into a micro mini-split.
@@ytJnC you could easily add insulation around the rear to stop any of the heat from radiating into the inside, but pulling it to bits probably won't work out, I could be wrong though, I'm not an expert, but it would probably be like dismantling a fridge and extending it so it throws the heat outside rather than to the rear, I wouldn't mess with the gas inside it myself.
Why didn’t you do a full review including running it for a few nights. You could let us know the outside daytime temperatures, the temperature of the can before you turned on the unit and how long it took to become comfortable. That would include an inside temperature reading to show us how it is actually performing.
Yeah, I am skeptical of this unit being able to keep a van cool.. Feel bad that he hardwired/installed this unit in his van if it doesn't work out.
@@mattolsson8816 cuz it really wont
@@justsomedudeinarizona6757 I was trying to say that it won't work in a nice way.. Unless of course you just appreciate getting some cold air blown on you while sitting in front of it :)
I think I would have installed different
How can I get a hold of you to purchase one of your vans
Thank for a great install vid! Now that you've had time to test this unit, how has it worked for you?
Yeah, how's it worked?
Crickets......
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@@charlesmoman thank you!!!
@@charlesmoman still a shitty idea. Hahahah!!! Sorry I shouldn’t have said that. But in Arizona, phoenix, and places like. I don’t think that system would stand a chance.
Please provide us the link to purchase the AC unit
I found a roof mount 7800 btu 24v AC on ebay for $600. I know it is a gamble, but we will see how it goes. Draws about 300w on low and 900w on high so battery bank needs to be beefy. This little unit should be great for spot cooling in hot humid areas and good for general cooling in drier climates.
being totally portable with a battery pack is kind of neat too.
Hi, i saw some of yr vids...great vans...
I am curious about that lifting bed feature...is there a video like the AC one? Or any other info....I am a cruising sailor and will soon change to land travel...exploring options .
Any help is greatly appreciated.
$995 fan not an AC plus mine barley blew air and ZeroBreeze did nothing and the Out Door company only had a 14 day return and I fortunately I bought it but was moving and did not try installing for a month so they would. It accept return. So I have $995 POS
How do you turn it on or off,,, remote works?
Is it enough to cool off the van during the summer?
Having electric wire work and punching holes on the van is a commitment, then it would be better
to install permanent AC rather than this portable. I have portable which I could just bring it up to the
front seat and have exhaust and intake ducts facing outside the window, it works great every time and
won't take any space. I can't seem to do the electric power installation.
The zero breeze definitely is not 4 to 5 hour run time on full blast. Its 1 hour max.
Does it work when driving?
can you include a link to the exact 4" vent covers you used? Thanks!
No
On an 80 degree day or something similar, how long does it take to cool from 80 to 70 or 60?
It can't lower inside temperature, only provide a refreshing breeze
Like others said, this device is a 1K personal a/c. It will not get close to cooling your entire van, even if its website claims it will. I have a 144" MB Sprinter High Roof and it is only useful if you're standing in front of it, would not recommend or buy again.
can you run it 24/7?
HI! CAN WE REACH YOU, RE A CUSTOM BUILT SPRINTER CAMPING VAN? 🙋🏻♀️🙏🙏🙏
Where have uou gone? Are you still doing builds or are you out enjoying van life rather than building and flipping?
hello, I want to buy such a device for my caravan. does it work on 12v or 24v? how did you connect it? and I want to ask you what solar panels you have and what batteries? Thanks !
I really love the way you did this, I have a ZB, it works fantastic as a personal cooler, the bad complaints are all people who tried to cool a large space, it cannot handle that.
@David D you are so correct. The expectation should just be for cooling a person off as direct cooling for like when you sleep as during the day you're going to be out and about and using someone else's A/C as a van lifer (Planet Fitness, Wegmans, etc). For me personally I will have a MideaU project coming up so can't wait to get that rolling and vlog about it.
It was a poor decision to install the ducting right on the metal body panel. This panel will absorb energy radiated from the sun, heat up, and heat your cool air moving through the duct. It would be better to install the entire unit and ducting all within the insulation of the van.
Additionally, the intake is on the floor of the van, where the air is coolest. It would have been better to install the unit up high so the hottest air in the van can hit the evaporator. And the ducting you installed would be shorter, increasing airflow.
Your car AC is 10000 BTU, large vans with rear AC are in the 50000 BTU range; just for comparison.
@George Planter I am sure you have a bit of knowledge to google it for yourself. Cars and vans are poorly insulated so the quoted BTUs required for cooling is much higher. You can also easily convert BTUs to watts, the difference is belt driven vs. electric motor driven compressors. Feel like an idiot yet? Don't dip in unknown water and do some research before comment for the world to see.
@George Planter www.sae.org/standardsdev/tsb/cooperative/mobile_ac.pdf
Genius! Saw your build on Jarrod Tocci’s channel.
Do these units have to be recharged after so many summers of use? I notice they use refrigerant.
Are you in the UK
wow only $1000 USD for an AC unit OUCH! proper air flow and a maxair roof vent would be cheaper, more energy efficient. 🤑💸💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
When the outside temp is 80 degrees while you're sleeping in summer a roof fan won't do much to actually ease sleeping. Proper great exchanger cooling can. Not necessarily advocating for this one tho.
@@lunaumbra5179 I do agree with you but I would rather sweat a little every night and not spend 1K
@@jasonflt understood. I think they're are really creative ways to put a window ac into a van without being ugly. Way more possible. Saw one guy who modified the floor of the van do the unit was half inside and half outside just need a second fan to move the air up.
How do I connect this to a 12v lithium Battery?
How can it possibly "suck heat out of the van" if both the intake and exhaust are outside the van?
Any links on how to get this??
huh, for some reason I thought Zero Breeze made swamp coolers, the more you know.
Icy Breeze does
Pretty much!!
You keep saying that you can run it off of 12V. That's not exactly true. You would need a 12V to 24V converter that is about 95% efficient. A decent 120V inverter would have about 90% efficiency. 24V should be the recommended voltage for this unit to maximize efficiency.
Yeah you can run it off 12 or 24, 95% efficiency is great, and I ran mine off 24v for efficiency
Do you sell vans and how much
where can order? How is the pricing?
With that flex duct you will lose a lot or air flow you should do it all in hard duct
100%
What are prices are your vans ? Where can we see ?
Ha- Drop the word 'Basically" . But nice review- thanks.
would this just kool the bed area?? or the enclosed area also in florida heat ?? just wondering all day use or just in the night time bed area use , thank you?
It will put out air that’s about 25 f degrees colder than the ambient temp. So in my testing, at 90 degrees it was blowing 65 degree air, not it’s not a super strong amount and to cool down a whole van you would likely need really strong insulation, but to cool down an area where you’re sitting or sleeping it’s perfect!
2500btu is pretty small cooling output. Gonna really struggle on warm days. Nights will probably work though
It ONLY cools right in front of u! Will NOT cool an entire van!
@@melindamarie6139 Do you work for the competition or something? You seem to have a special hatred for this product
@@adamcutler8503
She doesn’t. She’s telling the truth.
I want to watch you change your tail light
Need a big battery bank. My Hi-Lo camping trailer has just a single 12 VDC battery ~50 A-hr capacity, so the compressor could only run for 2 hours. I haven't mounted a roof AC, though wired for it (120 VAC outside connector) since few state park sites in CA have electrical hookup, and those that do cost $55/night w/ 1 yr waiting list. I'm thinking of a 120 VAC portable AC (like restaurants use) when needed, but usually camp only in areas which get cool at night.
Well I do it spending less than $275….$129.99 700 watt generator from harbor freight and a $134 air conditioner from Walmart. The air conditioner is 5000btu, 450 watts and draws approximately 4amps. How much did you say that 12vdc air conditioner cost?
With one zero Breeze it's possible to run it 24 hours a day with 800 walts of solar and a small battery bank of 400 amps at 24 volts or 10 killawalts
And keep your sleeping area comfortable temperatures
Now if you use 2 zero Breeze it works way better
Just need 20 to 25 killawalts of 24 volt
That's just 4 or 5 eg4 server rack batteries
And 1200 walts of solar that is the maximum that will fit on a extended high roof promaster van 200 Walt rich solar 24 volt panels
Can use bigger panels just lose the stealth look of the smaller panels
Van has to have installation and the only installation that will work is 2 inches of spray foam close cell on the ceiling floor and walls and foam insulation over all windows and some kind of partition to block of the front of the van
There is always compromise that have to be made
I agree. Foil tape is the way to go.
Yeah but are u in florida heat?
Where do I buy this
I don't get it, why there is no an intake drawing indoor warm air and pass the heat to the evaporator coil to expell the heat away.?? There should be a circulation in door (which remove the heat) same as the circulation outdoor which dump the heat.
What DC To DC power converter did you use and what was the Amp rating ?
How much solar can you comfortably run this system without depleting your battery power? I have 300watts of solar and work a job where I have to leave the van for a couple hours. My goal is to keep the van around 75 degrees in the summer heat to keep my dog cool while I’m away.
Do you have your own business? I like your work. Would love to buy my own van sometime soon and have you construct it
Poor design power eater, you're duct runs need to be shorter and duct reducers as they all create friction thus more performance reduction.
I would never put vents near the bottom, beware of exhaust fumes near by. Put near the top far away from exhaust fumes of your van and where other cars may emit fumes.
8:08 how great?
please look at the Reviews on this item,
they are not very positive.
I am looking for an a/c unit, but don't want
to risk the money.
You’re watching an extremely positive review
@@shaidenvalentine1 But it's slightly biased by the guy selling em
Bad reviews is right! I know someone that put one in their van...complete waste n only worked like a swamp cooler. $1400. vs $30. Hmmmm??!!!!
There are van builds on youtube where they put a stock window air conditioner in by building a false wall across the back (pushing the bed or seating area forward enough) of the van and having the "outside" hot air exchange be in the "garage" area of the van by the back doors. If I did that, I would install something like a PC fan to circulate the hot air out of that space by using some 4" PVC up to the ceiling area to pull out the hottest air, and vent it out the floor. So then you just need enough power to run the AC...
@@brianmi40 It would generally require a lot more air movement than that. Essentially the venting needs to be close to the square inches of venting on the case otherwise the heat transfer can't work properly to dissipate the heat created. It's sort of like running a marathon while breathing through a straw, just not enough air movement
Too much turbulence from the aluminum flex tube will limit the airflow.
Nonsense
Got here from Jarrad…. Awesome Van build!
where did you buy it and how much did it cost you? or... did you get it for free?
Why not put it over a small water tank and collect the condensation for your sink
Well ‘basically’ that intrigues me in every way except the cost
The air intake is too close to the hot air exhaust, rather inefficient...
Merci
What’s the advantages or difference between this AC unit compared to having a mini split set up ?
Great product. Did I overlook the unconditioned air supply port thru the box the unit is installed in?
WAY too much 3" flex hose...shorter the better..
Nice installation job but it’s not going to cool that van.
COLD AIR SINKS..PUTTING THE UNIT UP HIGH TO START WITH WOULD COOL THE SPACE DOWN MORE EFFICIENTLY AND YOU'D NEED ALMOST NO DUCT HOSE. GOOD VIDEO THANKS FOR SHARING.
What's the name of this
Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to have the intake taking from the hottest air in the van so at the top, then outputting the cool air and then have one pip running outside for the “exhaust”
If you did that then the van would have a negative air pressure and would suck in hot air were ever it could
It sounds like a good idea just not practical on the real world
Don't ask how I learned about it lol
Too expensive and will not last as people think , compresor too small and running too hot for hours , good luck
editing: music bed shouldnt be louder than voices.
It's NOT "less than a grand"
It is, less than a grand haha
No, it's $1500 on Amazon which tends to have the better prices.