Nittaku Acoustic with unboosted Hurricane 3 NEO. Can 5 ply wooden blade do magic?
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Heya! Long time no see.
In this video there's a brief review of what 5 ply flexible wooden blade Nittaku Acoustic can do with commercial (cheapest) DHS Hurricane 3 NEO and Xiom Vega Asia.
btw your backhand is a thing of beauty
thanks a lot!
Acoustic's core is thung tree, from what I know it's not the same as kiri. I just bought one special sg flare model. Did not play much with it yet but already super inpressed by its consistance and feeling!
Thanks for the comment, indeed it's Tung tree.
I have done decades of martial arts but only recently took tabletennis seriously. I thought exactly the same thing, very explosive and forward-projected, very similar
Good review. Most reviews only talk. This is a good demonstration of how equipment reviews need to be done
thanks a lot!
God bless, I was constantly searching for decent reviews of this blade and you just uploaded this video 😄
I'm considering to buy the Nittaku Acoustic SG Special version since I need that thick handle for better control on my backhand, as you also pointed out in the video.
So, thank you so much for the review, it helped a ton!
hey, thanks a lot for the comment. It warms my soul that these videos are helpful for someone! I will probably stick to Acoustic for this year and see how it goes. BH rubber though is questionable :( back to EJing !
The sg flare handle is amazing really
Did you get it? I think I will go with Large Straight ... would be nice if the measurements for LG ST was somewhere ... I can only find the measurements for the normal flared version.
@@z0uLess ask people who manage a webshop. They should be able to give you the dimensions. Like for the different acoustic flared versions:
Acoustic is 100*26*21
SG is 105*27*22
LG is is 120*28*23
Sorry, I don't have the dimensions you are looking for, since I bought the SG flared model. I am very happy with it.
@@michaelferron3866 i agree
I like the sound of the red player!!🔥🔥
Acoustic's handle is too to small for me. I bought Tibhar Stratus PowerWood. After first test eit HB Tenergy 05 I was dissapointed. But glued Tenergy64 and Yinhe Jupiter ll. Now this blade plays very good. Super feeling, control is very high, spin and speed are more than enought.
Choose the Acoustic SG handle version.
I never tested the acoustic all wood, but I try the outer carbon and the inner carbon; after playing a long time with a butterfly inner force alc-s blade, I'm playing with the inner carbon version and the touch is very nice. :D
Good video! I Agree about passive blocks sucking. That's the main reason I won't use Chinese tacky rubber
actually, the ball falls sometimes either because of bubble, or because of the blade being too flexible. Second is the case here with Nittaku Acoustic. With stiffer blades Chinese rubbers like H3 work well in block department also
Первый раз вижу такой высокий топс, как у правши в красном!🤔 При этом пионер у него отличный😁, очень необычно выглядит такой топс...
мастер на 1500 рейтинга)
I'm really enjoying all your videos, these "recent" ones are great! If you post new videos I will watch them for sure! What hardness H3 are you usually using? I've been using Friendship Battle 2 Provincial Blue Sponge 40° for about a year and I switch to H3 Commercial 39° and it seems to be way too soft... As for the backhand, which do you think it's the best: Tensor(Tibhar MX-P), Japanese(Tenergy 05), Hybrids(Gewo Codexx, H8-80, Dignics 09c), or Chinese (H3 37°)?
Yeah H3 Provincial OS/BS 40 degrees with 1-2 layers of booster is what I am used to use.
As for the BH side, I *really* enjoy H3, but boosting 2 rubbers for me is just a bit too much. Nittaku FastArc G-1 is good alternative, it feels kinda the same with very grippy topsheet and rather hard sponge. Never liked T05/MX-P and other catapulty rubbers on the BH, too little control for me. I can adjust, but just don't want to :)
Battle 2 is good rubber, but I think it misses in spin department compared to H3. It's more lively though for sure.
What blade are you currently using? Which is your favoutire among the acoustic, Sanwei Froster and Yinhe 01 & HL 5 that you have on your channel?
I haven't settled on one blade yet. But I promised myself to use Long 5 (old version with print) this year.
My favourite...can't really say. I can definitely say that Acoustic is a REMARKABLE blade, especially with modern rubbers. It's just so unique: control, feeling and speed when needed.
Can't say the same about Yinhe 01 and Sanwei Froster, they're just fine. These are very good value.
HL5 IMO better than all other blades IF you have proper technique, especially FH killer shots and use boosted H3 on both sides.
I am a beginner player (almost 1 year), and I still havent figured out if I want to go for Nittaku Acoustic or DHS Hurricane 301 as my second blade. I have been using Stiga Offensive Classic ST from the start, and it seems that the characteristics of DHS Hurricane 301 are similar to Stiga OC in terms of hardness and flexibility, but it might be a big leap in speed. I also prefer a large handle, and so kinda want to go with the Acoustic ST LG. The cost difference between the two is huge.
301 is very good blade (not 301x), I think it's rather safe to go with it rather than acoustic. And yeah, it's also much cheaper. Just try it :)
@@brieftabletennisequipmentr1579 Yes, but the handle is small, which I dont like.
I love your video man, and I keep coming back to it. I see more detail in table tennis strokes now that I have played for 20 months and I am able to get more out of watching this video. I hope you will upload more about equipment and technique
My friend. For the backhand. Try either rakza 7, or fastarc g1. Both have great elements of control and the fastarc is also quick on my backhand loop/ punch
@@Pvtepingpong Thanks. Have you tried Fastarc C1?
Tung tree! Of course the core is Tung tree, for some reason I was thinking about this but still managed to make a mistake.
*if* it's freshly speed glued, it will perform well, how long before the video did you glue the H3 ? was it speed glue or white glue ?
White glue with no booster.
Nice technique! If one doesn't plan to boost at all, would 37° or 38° H3 neo be better suited as a forehand rubber or too soft?
I think 38-39 degrees provincial (or national) NEO versions would be OK playing unboosted, but only on softer and flexible blades, meaning that you would have to exert force using proper technique
that hurricane bounces way more than mine
I played with it for some time, hence the bounce.
When it's fresh, the rubber is a brick and seems pretty dead, but if you play with it for a bit , it gets softer over time.
@@CalvinAytch I tried playing with it as a beginner, maybe I am not hitting hard enough to soften it up ... but I also did not boost it at the start. A demonstration after having played with it for 1-2 months is on my channel. The video is called "10 07 22 bounce test". I have never seen a hurricane 3 bounce that well as it does in this video. After giving up on playing with H3 neo I went back to using the backhand rubber (yasaka rigan) on both sides as I was given at the expert store where I bought my first racket. I still struggle with my forehand and can barely loop after 8 months of playing. After all the hassle, and finding that counterlooping was damn near impossible with yasaka rigan on stiga offensive classic, I am now trying a hybrid rubber on forehand (yasaka rakza z), which is much slower than yasaka rigan. At least I get to spin a lot with this setup, but I have to hit really hard for it to go fast. I think its a good beginner setup, as my blade is both flexible and hard enough to deal with the tacky surface ... but I dont know if the issues with my forehand stems from me changing rubbers three times, or if its that I was given a bad rubber to develop my forehand to begin with (too fast for my level). My backhand is so much stronger that I almost jump over to the forehand side to do backhands in matches now. Examples of me playing sets are also on my channel.
Comercial h3 is faster than provencial and national h3
@@hadyalbagu8615 Mine is commercial non-boosted DHS H3 neo. I glued Rakza Z on forehand instead. Both bounce tests are on my channel named bounce test and marked with date.
Any chance you have played with Butterfly Innerforce ALC with the same rubber and can tell how the feeling compares with that of Acoustic?
I have innerforce ALC.S (a little bit thinner than innerforce ALC) and I think BTY blade is less flexible than Acoustic, so not much power can be produced on a powerful shots. I didn't like ALC.S with H3, but it's fine with Dignics 09c, a little slow may be.
Great video and comparison! G1 has been my fav so far
I've had a wooden acoustic for several years and keen on possibly getting a carbon version.
Nobody at my club has one so I'd have to buy one to find out.
Any suggestions on inner or outer difference from experience??? thanks in advance
Unfortunately I don't have any experience playing with Nittaku Acoustic Carbon / Inner Carbon.
@@brieftabletennisequipmentr1579 thanks.. hoping to get an answer otherwise I'll just have to fork out the cash and find out
Have you had the chance of trying a Rakza Z? I have heard its only for beginners, but I was wondering how it feels for someone on your level.
Unfortunately I haven't tried it, but heard good reviews. It's definitely a good rubber. Though Rakza 7 is unbeatable classic which works like a charm even these days. One of my favourites.
Have you ever used speed glue on a H3? If not, could make a video talking about it? Tks! Shout out from Brazil !!!
Hey! Thanks a lot for watching my videos, it means a lot to me.
I actually was a kid when during speed glue era, and after I returned back to table tennis around 5 years ago speed glue was already banned. So I can't really say much right now, but it is definitely very interesting to test legit setups from pro players like before 2008.
thanks for the answer, i'll be waiting for the test! 😁
@@brieftabletennisequipmentr1579 have you ever tested hurricane 3-50?
@@mateus159369 nope never tested. I think it would be too soft for me
il you can afford a $160 bucks blade chances are big you should be able to afford $40 rakza z or rozena (for beginner/intemediate) on it :-) of course at your level you can stick $2 cj8000 on zjk alc and play with it... oh, and btw, acoutic carbon with small (regular) handle feels horribly head heavy with a lot of rubbers, only with the lightest of 'em all tsp ventus soft if felt nice. fl handle of acoustic wood is ok (i have 3 acoustics, st & fl 5pl and carbon (inner) ones, no i'm not filphy rich, i've just found 'em for 60-70 euros 2nd hand each), go for large handle on carbon ones for sure unless you've hands tiny like mima ito has
well put. I just enjoy playing with Hurricane rubbers, can't really tell that they are better than modern tensor rubbers. The cheapest ones probably not, but it still somehow stuck in my head that I might some day play a little more like Chinese superstars with their beutiful techniques, rather then european style, which is in my opinion meh compared to Asian one :)
I have and love this blade, but the handle is too small, need to find a large handle one
Yup, there's large handle version, which feels almost exactly like Viscaria's handle.
Hi, is this good for backhand dominated play? Mostly backhand flicks and drives
@@binums11 its good, but unless you have a lot of power something like viscaria would be better. this accoustics main thing is awesome feel and fh looping for me
hi, i need your help in which handle size for the acoustic is best for medium small hands. should i get the regular acoustic or the sg special? i heard that the sg special is not that much different than the large size, which is not what i want. if someone who has tried both regular and sg special sizes could guide me on what to get that will mean the world to me. All the best.
Unfortunately, I can't help here. Can only say that original handle is small for any adult person IMO.
@@brieftabletennisequipmentr1579 i am 18 and i am a forehand dominant looper. Is the original handle better for forehand? how did you find it for forehand?
@@hadyalbagu8615 yup Acoustic suits perfectly well for FH oriented players. It has enough flex to hold the ball for powerloops.
I find it a bit lacking on the backhand and generally, not so well suited for Chinese rubbers. The thing is, is that this blade is very fast on powerful shots and rather slow on low/medium ones. Powerful shots are great with H3, but low/medium ones are just not enough to do something decent with Acoustic. H3s require faster blades, but only on low/mid power shots. Viscaria is like this, but it's crazy fast with tensioned rubbers in my opinion. So acoustic is very much recommended with modern tensioned rubbers.
I am currently playing with DHS Hurricane Long 3 with H3 on both sides, will make a short review in some time I think.
Как, на ваш взгляд, 5-слойная Acoustic (79 г) будет с Rakza 7 ? Видел ваш обзор этой накладки.
вот на лёгкой не знаю, но лично играл на акустике 85грамм с Rakza 7 - потрясающее сочетание, точно советую попробовать
@@brieftabletennisequipmentr1579 Купил, поставил, поиграл. Первое, что приходит в голову - очень универсальное сочетание. Игра у стола прям увереннее и интереснее после G-1. Топс со средней, конечно, не такой агрессивный, как с fastarc, но цепляет мяч хорошо. Наде ее еще разыграть, но вообще нравится. И контрольно, и быстро и спин хороший. Так что спасибо за рекомендацию.
@@sashbar всегда рад помочь :) мне с Rakza 7 и акустиком показалось что я вообще все мячи на стол попадаю. а с G1 как будто меньше толерантность к ошибкам, зато если сделал правильно движение и летит получше, чем от ясаки
Есть такое, да.
Появилась у меня вторая Акустик - с большой ручкой (LG FL), 90 г. значительно быстрее и мощнее, чем 79 г., прям пушка, совсем как другое основание. Ручка по ощущениям похожа скорей на ST у Nittaku с небольшим расширением на конце, довольно толстенькая. В общем, 79 легковато, 90 тяжеловато, обычная ручка тонковата, LG толстовата. Так и играем )).
i hate the smell of hurricane rubbers, is it a concern for my health or how can i get rid of that smell
the smell goes away if you play with the rubber...like after several trainings it's already fine.
But if you're considered so much with the smell, I think Chinese rubbers are out of question. Have a look at Xiom rubbers, they are of good quality and not so expensive.
Be aware that the NEO sponges smell extra bad, the rest of DHS rubbers I've tested are fine for me.
@@johnw9173 i meant the neo ones
А Петров чем играет?
у него Muzitani Super ZLC, Dignics 09c справа и Tenergy 05 слева
@@brieftabletennisequipmentr1579 спасибо 🤝
How is it compared to Korbel Japan?
Unfortunately, I haven't played with Butterfly Korbel (neither Japan, nor regular versions). People say that Acoustic is a bit faster than Korbel.
or can you name any rubbers similar to hurricane that doesnt smell
Damian Rogalski
Когда с такой техникой и силой машешь лететь будет ото всего. 95процентов любителей так не смогут, и явно акустика с липучкой будет для них медленная. Они попросту не смогут в игре использовать весь потенциал, так как ногами не выйдут) а стоять на одном месте может что то и получиться)
сила != техника
акустика с липучной достаточно быстрое сочетание. моё мнение, что если долго играть любым инвентарём привыкаешь и выходишь на достаточно эффективный уровень. Хуриком можно отлично делать скидки и играть в короткой игре, Вращать навесные медленные топсы, для многих новичков и любителей этого достаточно
@@brieftabletennisequipmentr1579 в том то все и дело, "если долгое время играть". Но в реальности дать новичку акустику с липучкой и с розеной, я уверен он выберет розену. Проблема новичка не в том что он не может махать, а в том что с липучкой нужно выходить ногами в игре, а это почти нереально если ты в детстве не тренировался.
Thanks but.... white walls ffs... I can barely see the ball
hah yeah that's one con of this place :D otherwise, it's amazing.
А на русском будут обзоры?)
на этом канале на русском не будет :)
@@brieftabletennisequipmentr1579 а на русском есть канал?
@@Chelnyvodocanal есть, но там по сути один видос обучающий только пока ... ruclips.net/video/ArtMG0UOins/видео.html
@@brieftabletennisequipmentr1579 спасибо, подписался! ✊
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You can't block AT ALL. Makes your racket just useless. I own the acoustic, it's quite slow, finishing point is difficult. You have to build your advantage slowly until the final blow, no knockout power. Nice blade, but not as amazing as advertised
The blade was very good during speed glue era and old ball. With newer ball Acoustic is still fine with springy rubbers, but with tacky hard Chinese rubbers and it's flexibility it isn't that good. The feeling is quite hollow