GlitchZ They have a valid point, the guy just pointed her out as better than everyone else in the class which clearly pissed people off. Telling them no matter how hard they try they will never be as good or even close to her. Doesn't matter if school, college or university that is a sure fire way to turn a large majority of a class against a single person in the space of 3 minutes. That will cause bullying and it doesn't mean you don't have a ''set'' as you described it as, it is common sense what would happen. Dropping out of the class from that outcome is the wisest move for most people and they would take that option and think about taking it next year or what not. I don't get your idea that because someone is bullied it means they don't have a ''set'', it is just idiotic in all honesty.
ReeceiZTanK everything you just described exactly why the current generation is practically scared of their own shadow and believe they are entitled to everything in the world.
ReeceiZTanK this is a good professor trying to teach these adults to function and progress in the real world. The real world doesnt care about your feelings and a lot of times what kind of paper (degree) you have. This is college.....not elementary. Its time to be a big boy/girl and stop worrying about bullying. Ue was straight foward and honest with everyone in the class. Most students should wish they had a professor like this
I think the biggest problem with this scene, as evocative as it is, is the subtext. If the message was 'don't try to be a genius, you either are or you aren't', I can agree with that. However, the text seems to push the idea that 'if you're not a genius, you're nothing', and that's bullshit. If the entirety of history and literature depended solely on geniuses and legendary figures, human history would've been shockingly brief. Someone has to carry on the styles, techniques, and procedures brought about by genius, or they get lost to time forever once the originator dies. People have to recognize genius, appreciate it, and do their best to emulate it in order for it to carry on, and in doing so you pave the way for the next great advancement by making sure the past isn't lost forever. I went to college to become a writer, and several years later it's not looking like I'll ever be one of the greats that gets remembered for all time. Matter of fact, I've even thought about becoming an electrician just to have a reliable paycheck. But there's no reason I can't be both a working man AND a writer, and there's no reason I shouldn't write just because I'm not some prodigy. Everything counts. If Shakespeare was a wave in the ocean, I'm probably nothing more than a single raindrop. That said, if it never rained, the ocean would just dry up entirely over time. I may very well never achieve greatness in my life on my own, but I can still be a part of greatness, of something bigger than myself.
why are you talking about "how to become a Genius" when you aren't one,dont try to simplify things you dont understand,its not how it works,you're either born one or you're not,you cant Think yourself into becoming a genius ,dafuq...
I guess only geniuses can talk about becoming a genius, right? One things sure, I am not stupid enough to talk down to people because they share their opinions about geniuses. Everyone was very intelligent for a few moments in their lives because they concentrated hard at that time. If their intelligence at that time reached the point of genius then they were geniuses then.
yes it s the safest place , u took it wrong ur example should be being the middle in ur team which means surrounded by ur teammate , then yes it s the safest place to be even in csgo duh
+Mikey Lewis It's a matter of being born with it then grinding for it. Someone born with a laundry list of dysfunctions like downs, severe mental retardation, blindness, one foot, and asthma is going to have an statistically impossible struggle to actually have that genius, and then have the ability to grind. It's a clear hyperbole, but it illustrates that if you didn't have it it's not going to show up in your lap.
It is a matter of being born with it. We are limited by our own minds. Some peoples minds function different and simply have better creative and problem solving abilities. Now that person has to use those abilities to get smarter or that gift is a waste. But if you dont have those abilities, no amount of studying will make you a genius. Its like musicians. Ive seen peoole that can pick up a guitar and a month later they are shredding like crazy while others i know have olayed for 10 years and cant play that well. Genius in an area lies within thise few people who are born with a natural ability for it.
It was a little pretentious for sure. But the point still remains. It seems the smartest people usually gravitate to one of two extremes. They either have a massive ego or they are the quietest in the room. Think about the quiet ones for a moment. If you are very smart it seems self serving to hide your true potential while you navigate through life as you see fit because people will expect less of you and be more forgiving. I think lots of people behave in such way.
True. Smartest people also tend to have social issues while communicating. If you see someone who doesn't small talk and is GREAT at something then you will assume that he/she is a douche thinking he/she is above you.
All you need is good functioning brain. Knowledge is something we acquire in order to produce something out of it. Unless you are going to argue that someone can learn things like math and a language without being taught- like knowing someone's name before being told what it is. Genius or not the brain must be fed information. Therefore, anyone can achieve great accomplishments with enough hard work. Surely, someone born with a higher mental capacity may learn at a faster rate but that is no guarantee of greatness.
Your problem is that you think test taking and IQ defines "genius." Greatness can be defined in many ways. While some might become mathematicians some might decide to become artists or an athlete. Maybe you should stop eating the garbage you are fed by society and start thinking for your self for once in your life. No amount of talent will lead to what you define as "genius" without hard work and not everyone needs to be a "genius" as you define it. Perhaps, if you stop measuring people and actually got to know those you come in contact with you will find people are a lot smarter than you think.
That's true that genetics are the biggest factor in what we are good at however there is always an exception. Hard work can get you places too just you will never be the best at something without the genes to be good at it. Life is just unfair.
tho I'm a fan of genetics, its just a myth. If it was true than Nepotism would be a sucess but instead it leads to corruption and underperformance. As Rocky Baloba says in Creed" You see that there(your own reflection), thats the toughest opponent you will ever have to face, that's true in the ring and true outside of the ring".
The amount of backlash this scene gets and the way in which its expressed, kind of falls directly into the lap of what this scene is trying to communicate. Funny.
It's true, you need that magic, that soul for it... no matter how hard you work or wish or take risks... you either are special or you're not and never will be
I disagree. The human mind is capable of everything. Greatness is a combination of long term focus and effort, talent is merely a bonus. Einstien was not born a genius he focused on one thought experiment for 10 years while constantly honing his mental muscles. Same with mozart he was so good at 10 years old because he was obssesed with the piano at age 2. He got really good at age 16. Ben franklin, tesla, all the greats got that way through obessive focus and effort over long periods of time. Read mastery by robert greene it goes in depth on the subject.
Zexon Hairi Just a theory, other than late speech development einstein had no other syptoms of a neurological disorder.. mentalfloss.com/article/20812/everything-you-ever-wanted-know-about-albert-einstein
This whole scene was a mess and it felt like the writer had no idea where the fuck he wanted to take this conversation. Completely irrelevant to the rest of the movie.
actually, this scene is very relevant to the rest of this movie the fact that you don't see why just proves your part of the 90+% of morons in this comment section
So, by your logic, a majority of people cannot ever be the morons ? Superhero movies are not cancerous because the majority of people like them ? Justin Bieber is not a shitty singer because he's popular ?
This professor - Knows people by name and cares about how good of students they are. My professor that I've had for 3 different classes now - Still calls me "man" because he doesn't know my name.
I think what Mark was getting at with this scene is that it's usually the quiet and non-self-absorbed people who are usually the geniuses whereas the people who say they are intellectually, are usually the stupid ones.
A true genius blazes a path that others follow. Someone who uses known information and expands it is a true genius. Isaac Newton once said, "If I have seen farther than other men, it is only by standing on the shoulders of giants."
Here's an interesting observation. USA is quite racially divided in real life but multiracial in films. UK is multicultural in real life but british films are not as racially mixed
That's not...that's the exact opposite of what he's saying. No amount of wishing OR effort will get you there. You just have to be a genius, that's it.
It's not only the acting though. The monologue, which was probably supposed to be inspiring, is fucking terrible. Fuck, I want to watch the whole movie now.
I would be in this guys class everyday. Give me a straight forward no bullshit professor over one of these tree hugging safe space hippy "professors" any day
Decent scene, would have been excellent if Wahlberg wasn't the professor and they didn't have that stupid extra included. They clearly weren't going for a realistic approach since no one would ever fucking say that to a professor.
i dont think any professor would say that to a student in front of the entire class either, not very realistic to me he is pretty much shitting on the entire class
a genius also wouldn't say some overly dramatic, vapid statement like "the middle is the safest place". Safe from what lol? That's the problem of trying to portray a genius. He can only be as smart as the person portraying him and if that person isn't very smart then the "genius" isn't going to be either.
joe shmo Completely overlooked that because Brie Larson is so talented an actress, she can make the most out of what she is given. Whoever directed or wrote this script clearly admires Aaron Sorkin because its so preachy and desperate to make this scene iconic, it does the opposite; it feels so forced
It's not even that hard to understand and you still don't get it, so let me elaborate. What the whole scene is about is what is the stumbling block of many exceedingly talented people (here referred as a "genius"). They hide in the mass because that's the safest place from really truly applying yourself, putting yourself in the line and being ready to fail. The "sitting in the front row" is a scary place to be, because you are under the spotlight and failure would be embarrassing. Hence the "safest" spot is in the middle. The "middle is the safest place" isn't to be taken for what it is, but what is the meaning behind it.
Wahlberg wasn't the problem, the writing was the problem. It came off as so incredibly shallow, pretentious and psuedo-intellectual. This scene was poorly written just like the rest of the movie, it's not deep, it's not hard to understand jack why you're writing a paragraph explaining the obvious I don't know, this is the kind of thing a 14 year old would find deep. Every scene in this movie was written with an air of self-importance and faux gravitas that just isn't there. The professor character and brie larson's character in the gambler are just a shallow facade of intelligence written by someone who seems relatively dull, has a huge ego and a lack of maturity.
people suck and fear to follow their dreams, and america is full of conformist who dont strive for more in a land where you can be more than you ever dreamed off and he is tired of it.
To be a great writer all you have to be is extremely imaginative, or at minimum have a good idea. Your editor can fill in all the semicolons and other errors afterwards.
i know it's been 4 years but how does this have 19 upvotes? it takes so much more than that, not least of all is the drive to spend time actually writing.
No clue where you got the suppremist thing. But the man was Vietnamese, not Korean - minor detail I guess, but enough to say that I've got gripes with your gripes. That man - whom he beat when he was 16, mind you - supported Walhberg's attempt at a pardon in 2014. So uh, stop being gullible, internet. Look up your accusations.
Talent and hard work are seperate entities but if one has talent and yet strives with hardwork like they have no talent that is what makes a genius... while one can work tirelessly with their heart and soul but if they lack the spark that makes a flame they can just sit in the rain and rub two sticks together at best... talent is essential for genius... do not fool yourselves into thinking with hard work one can be a genius... and talent alone will not make you a person worth remembering in time you need both to become someone time will remember....
In a sense~. A talented person who puts as much hard work as a regular non-talented individual will always thrive; perform better - be better. That is the point of this scene. Hard work will get you pretty far. But you will still be nothing compared to a person who simply has a gift for the same thing and puts in just as much work as you; or even if he puts less work than you, chances are he will still perform better.
Nikola Radev don t agree, an untalented person can develop by practicing talent, for example the talent of one person in football is that he makes good passes, a person who makes bad passes can develop that and reach the other erson in his talent, hard work will always be greater than talent
That is just the thing i've been thinking about a lot lately. Each and everyone of us in the comment section of this video can be a writer. We all have the ability to string a couple sentences together on a piece of paper and call is a poem or a short story. But a fundamental factor that sets the good from the best, is creativity. If you don't have creativity, you have no hopes of writing a story.
Wishes for gifts come from lazy perspective, if you want something why not go out and grab it because you're more than capable. With out a doubt you'll struggle more than someone who has a keen ability for problem solving or a being who possess a creative mind but that won't stop you from realising your dream if you want it bad enough, people crush dreams and the first person in that line is your self.
Conor Lamprey Conor, someone nice that gives very good advice, that's rare on internet. (Is this real, or is it just a fantasy ^^) Well thank you Conor.
legoman7041 the majority of catchy one liners and impactful sentences that got this movie it's decent rating were self contradicting nonsense like you just pointed out, which to the credit of the premise, works, but in snippets like this, seem more like an idiot trying to sound smart that an insane guy trying to spread knowledge.
+ZeQen Ordinarily yes but art itself is subjective. There's no denying that einstein was a genius because he proved it with facts, but I personally don't see Jackson Pollock as an artistic genius while many others do. He was a man who started a movement by dripping paint on a canvas instinctively and most people don't even like it. Yet his paintings sell for hundreds of millions.
Agree and Disagree Michael Jordan became Michael Jordan because he practiced and did everything he could to be who he was and is today. Albert Einstein didn't become Einstein overnight and knew that 2+2=4.He became Einstein by discovering, and working harder at his craft. You don't become a genius by being born it, you become one by doing what's necessary to attain that level of skill. That's where I disagree. Saying all of that, not everybody can just work hard to be Michael Jordan, Einstein, or Jay Z. That's just the reality of it. You can however be the best you and give the world whatever you have to give. So that's where I agree I think you'll never know unless you try.You can't say you'll be a genius at writing and not work at it.You need to know yourself and what skills you bring to the table.You must know your strengths and weaknesses before you can say you'll be success or failure at a certain field.
+Mikey Lewis You're not really saying anything different than the movie character is. The worst trap for the untalented is a lack of judgment to realize their own mediocrity.
'Practice makes perfect' is nearly straight bullshit IMO. Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan because he was 6'6", had crazy athletic ability, high basketball IQ, and he grinded ON TOP OF THAT. Albert Einstein's IQ is judged to have been in the 160-190 bracket. He also grinded on top of his EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT GENETIC ADVANTAGE. Perfect practice + perfect genes + perfect environmental stimuli make perfect.
So you get called out in life from a person which sees in you what which you yourself somewhat know the courage to step out from the crowd is more courageous than following the path which has been taken by many. It is strange how we cannot see our own potential but others can. Life is wonderful full of great moments that are not recognized by many from speaking out in truth to going to work . But abpve all else loving yourself no matter the outcome honesty forgiveness and loving one another
I have an IQ of 132 that was professionally tested by "Mensa" but I'm also an engineer so I don't know if I increased my IQ by going to school or if I was born with it. Either way I am three standard deviations above the mean on the IQ normal distribution curve. I still feel like an idiot though. I am an idiot.
"We all have something to offer." You might be a good baker, data entry clerk, or garbage man, but you may never sell a single book on amazon just because you forked out the cash for your worthless degree. We don't all have what it takes to be exceptional.
to be honest this is the rawest scene in hollywood coz usually they try to put a great speech about how each individual is meant to do sth which is not true. as he said it in the movie too dont waste ur time on writing if ur not genius at it. do sth else if ur good at sth else dont waste ur time.this place needs all sorts of people electricians,mechanics ...and there shouldnt be a shame in that . believe me i know
the title gave me the idea that this video would make me believe that i too am special in a way or sth like that... but "genius is material"? "if you don't have the magic, no amount of wishing will make it so"?? seriously xd yeah thanks wahlberg!! no hopes left
Ok so im reading the comments and read that the scene was a mess or was not good. I cant see why people dislike it so much. Honestly its my favorite part of the film for a reason.
Geniuses are made by critics, not born. If you've actually studied literature you know that. It's not about the person, it's not even about the work. It's about what we say about the work later.
I think he's right it's either you have the magic or you don't but the question is are you going to use it or not. For example, yes everyone in a singing group can sing but there's always one person who is better than the rest.
To be in the top 0.1% of the world in any competitive area, you have to first and foremost be a genius with pure luck giving talent in that area. Then you match it with unrelenting discipline, dedication and hard work. An average and even a well above average person can hard work at something for 16 hours a day, every day for decades and still not even get close to someone who has pure luck giving talent in that area and then dedicates themself in the same way.
Of course in a 150 student sized class, the teacher would single one pupil out and indirectly chastise the rest for lack of ingenuity. The mental markings of a truly great preceptor... LOL.
"It isn't the one who talks the most" Professors really need to say this more often lmao
OOMG THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jim shut the fuck up maybe quit being a shy piece of shit
Ayush Negi this is from a yerar ago
@@MrAceAwesome1 Well you just proved his point...
So this is kinda awkward...
@@KingFrederik1309 It is... Very awkward... So. You come here often? ... I'ma just leave now
"Genius is magical, not material. If you don't have the magic, no amount of wishing will make it so." Wow! I love it! So true!
"....and she was bullied until she dropped the class"
:D
Bullied????? Grow a set.....
GlitchZ They have a valid point, the guy just pointed her out as better than everyone else in the class which clearly pissed people off. Telling them no matter how hard they try they will never be as good or even close to her. Doesn't matter if school, college or university that is a sure fire way to turn a large majority of a class against a single person in the space of 3 minutes. That will cause bullying and it doesn't mean you don't have a ''set'' as you described it as, it is common sense what would happen. Dropping out of the class from that outcome is the wisest move for most people and they would take that option and think about taking it next year or what not. I don't get your idea that because someone is bullied it means they don't have a ''set'', it is just idiotic in all honesty.
ReeceiZTanK everything you just described exactly why the current generation is practically scared of their own shadow and believe they are entitled to everything in the world.
ReeceiZTanK this is a good professor trying to teach these adults to function and progress in the real world. The real world doesnt care about your feelings and a lot of times what kind of paper (degree) you have. This is college.....not elementary. Its time to be a big boy/girl and stop worrying about bullying. Ue was straight foward and honest with everyone in the class. Most students should wish they had a professor like this
Americans dont think anyone can be bright without glasses.
ctfcNIG only interesting comment so far
ctfcNIG u obviously don't wear glasses
ctfcNIG what a general statement that is not true at all. Also....Glasses often show that people read a lot. Develop bad eyes.
Yeah Dan, but nowadays a person with glasses has been playing games and using his laptop rather than reading...
xooperz or both
"I'M ACTING"
***** "Even I.....EVEN I!" was when I knew this was not going to end well
lol
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Tim CUT
unfortunately this is real smh
the acting by her at the end where she catches herself smiling is fantastic
I think the biggest problem with this scene, as evocative as it is, is the subtext. If the message was 'don't try to be a genius, you either are or you aren't', I can agree with that. However, the text seems to push the idea that 'if you're not a genius, you're nothing', and that's bullshit. If the entirety of history and literature depended solely on geniuses and legendary figures, human history would've been shockingly brief. Someone has to carry on the styles, techniques, and procedures brought about by genius, or they get lost to time forever once the originator dies. People have to recognize genius, appreciate it, and do their best to emulate it in order for it to carry on, and in doing so you pave the way for the next great advancement by making sure the past isn't lost forever.
I went to college to become a writer, and several years later it's not looking like I'll ever be one of the greats that gets remembered for all time. Matter of fact, I've even thought about becoming an electrician just to have a reliable paycheck. But there's no reason I can't be both a working man AND a writer, and there's no reason I shouldn't write just because I'm not some prodigy. Everything counts. If Shakespeare was a wave in the ocean, I'm probably nothing more than a single raindrop. That said, if it never rained, the ocean would just dry up entirely over time. I may very well never achieve greatness in my life on my own, but I can still be a part of greatness, of something bigger than myself.
I love the last sentence
to be a genius you first have to be a genius everything else is a result of hard work and dumb luck
Genius is the result of hard thinking, if you don't concentrate the quality of you thoughts would not be of genius level.
Genius is only a greater aptitude for patience.
why are you talking about "how to become a Genius" when you aren't one,dont try to simplify things you dont understand,its not how it works,you're either born one or you're not,you cant Think yourself into becoming a genius ,dafuq...
I guess only geniuses can talk about becoming a genius, right? One things sure, I am not stupid enough to talk down to people because they share their opinions about geniuses. Everyone was very intelligent for a few moments in their lives because they concentrated hard at that time. If their intelligence at that time reached the point of genius then they were geniuses then.
the harder you work.. the 'luckier' you get. which are just opportunities that open up when you work hard and remain persistent. there is no luck.
Always the blonde chick.
lol
+james reimer Indians rulling the silicon valley , cry about it now xD
mark navarro I think ur talking about out sourcing. Silicon Valley is in the us
QuoteToad Jr they re the prettiest. No one likes a movie with a black woman protagonist. They're ugly. Only cute white and Asian girls please.
Hmm... lol ya ur right!
There is absolutely no way a professor would actually know a SINGLE student, ever, in a class, but it's a movie so yeah
Jack ripper lol thats not true...
you could not be more wrong, come to my college
J alongfortheride mine too lol
Come to my college, one of my prof knows each one of us lol
I go to UCSD and my professor tries to know us all. Class size of about 100
We dont want more geniuses..we want more people with humility and mutual respect..
"being in the middle is the safest place to be"
my ass. did this girl even play any shooter games? for example csgo?
I think she meant as in writing ability
Your comparing real life with games dude.... Weed that stands out tends to get cut down..
Different rules for different games.
yes it s the safest place , u took it wrong
ur example should be being the middle in ur team which means surrounded by ur teammate , then yes it s the safest place to be even in csgo duh
not in the middle of the map lol
It's not a matter of being born with it, it's how much are you willing to grind to give the world who you are for its benefit.
+Mikey Lewis It's a matter of being born with it then grinding for it.
Someone born with a laundry list of dysfunctions like downs, severe mental retardation, blindness, one foot, and asthma is going to have an statistically impossible struggle to actually have that genius, and then have the ability to grind. It's a clear hyperbole, but it illustrates that if you didn't have it it's not going to show up in your lap.
evan smith your not born with it. Yes, mental disabilities won't help you but a perfectly healthy person has just as much change as the rest.
It is a matter of being born with it. We are limited by our own minds. Some peoples minds function different and simply have better creative and problem solving abilities. Now that person has to use those abilities to get smarter or that gift is a waste. But if you dont have those abilities, no amount of studying will make you a genius. Its like musicians. Ive seen peoole that can pick up a guitar and a month later they are shredding like crazy while others i know have olayed for 10 years and cant play that well. Genius in an area lies within thise few people who are born with a natural ability for it.
GlitchZ anyone has a gift from God yet to be discovered through faith in Jesus christ. Amen
Isn’t your tendency to grind itself fairly inborn?
Dude her reaction at the end is priceless
It's like when your mom comes home and says it's actually clean
HE WANTS YOU TO GET PISSED OFF AND PROVE HIM WRONG!
He is weeding out those who dont want it bad enough, like the trolls that will comment on this!
"The middle is the safest place to be" what kind of college student says that... Who even says that?
Pretentious script writers pretending to be deep.
It was a little pretentious for sure. But the point still remains. It seems the smartest people usually gravitate to one of two extremes. They either have a massive ego or they are the quietest in the room. Think about the quiet ones for a moment.
If you are very smart it seems self serving to hide your true potential while you navigate through life as you see fit because people will expect less of you and be more forgiving. I think lots of people behave in such way.
ive been saying that since i was a little kid
True. Smartest people also tend to have social issues while communicating. If you see someone who doesn't small talk and is GREAT at something then you will assume that he/she is a douche thinking he/she is above you.
Tim S. it reflected that she was afraid of the world , reflecting her family's bad condition (mother's alcoholic and insane)
how she has suffered
super geniuses are born but some slightly gifted people can work there way up to more knowledge
You dont need to be gifted in the first place to be really good at something. It's just a booster
All you need is good functioning brain. Knowledge is something we acquire in order to produce something out of it. Unless you are going to argue that someone can learn things like math and a language without being taught- like knowing someone's name before being told what it is.
Genius or not the brain must be fed information. Therefore, anyone can achieve great accomplishments with enough hard work. Surely, someone born with a higher mental capacity may learn at a faster rate but that is no guarantee of greatness.
ur an idiot supernova, keep lying to urself.
ur an idiot. "hardwork" my ass, yup that's all u need and a normal brain, and you think you can become an "einstein" now? take a hike.
Your problem is that you think test taking and IQ defines "genius." Greatness can be defined in many ways. While some might become mathematicians some might decide to become artists or an athlete.
Maybe you should stop eating the garbage you are fed by society and start thinking for your self for once in your life.
No amount of talent will lead to what you define as "genius" without hard work and not everyone needs to be a "genius" as you define it. Perhaps, if you stop measuring people and actually got to know those you come in contact with you will find people are a lot smarter than you think.
Talent hits a target no one can hit.Genius hits a target no one can see- Arthur Schopenhauer
This movie is a mess. Not too deep, not too superficial. Not about teaching but not about gambling...a script disaster
you didn't pay attention then... lol
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It's really about this guy's fetish, basically.
Sometimes, middle ground can be good
"It's all subject mannnn"
Matt Beaton There's memes for a reason.
That's true that genetics are the biggest factor in what we are good at however there is always an exception. Hard work can get you places too just you will never be the best at something without the genes to be good at it. Life is just unfair.
tho I'm a fan of genetics, its just a myth. If it was true than Nepotism would be a sucess but instead it leads to corruption and underperformance. As Rocky Baloba says in Creed" You see that there(your own reflection), thats the toughest opponent you will ever have to face, that's true in the ring and true outside of the ring".
Anonymous_Cake there’s a reason eugenics didn’t work
Sounds like you are making a bullshit of an excuse for people to have the "victim mentality"
The amount of backlash this scene gets and the way in which its expressed, kind of falls directly into the lap of what this scene is trying to communicate.
Funny.
It's true, you need that magic, that soul for it... no matter how hard you work or wish or take risks... you either are special or you're not and never will be
I disagree. The human mind is capable of everything. Greatness is a combination of long term focus and effort, talent is merely a bonus. Einstien was not born a genius he focused on one thought experiment for 10 years while constantly honing his mental muscles. Same with mozart he was so good at 10 years old because he was obssesed with the piano at age 2. He got really good at age 16. Ben franklin, tesla, all the greats got that way through obessive focus and effort over long periods of time.
Read mastery by robert greene it goes in depth on the subject.
Einstein had Asperger's and acute autism which made him focus on one subject more then the average human being. thats what made him good.
Zexon Hairi Just a theory, other than late speech development einstein had no other syptoms of a neurological disorder..
mentalfloss.com/article/20812/everything-you-ever-wanted-know-about-albert-einstein
this only explains why you're not a genius lol
I mean it was on his medical records.
MultiGreenman123 it also says that eq contributes more than iq when it comes to being intelligent. And eq can be easily honed.
How can we all expect to be special if special is defined to be better than the usual? By us all being special, it makes one not special.
This whole scene was a mess and it felt like the writer had no idea where the fuck he wanted to take this conversation. Completely irrelevant to the rest of the movie.
actually, this scene is very relevant to the rest of this movie
the fact that you don't see why just proves your part of the 90+% of morons in this comment section
Feeling genius, buddy ?
Not really.
Still piss me off that only a small minority understand this movie.
This observation is backed by the reviews on imdb.
thats makes you moron in the comment section.
you only care about your minority, but forgetting that movie made for all people who watch.
So, by your logic, a majority of people cannot ever be the morons ?
Superhero movies are not cancerous because the majority of people like them ?
Justin Bieber is not a shitty singer because he's popular ?
This movie just inspired me to write again after 20 years.
I gave up because it took over my life.
Writing doesn't need genius! It only needs a broken heart.. and the rest will follow..
Very poetic.
Ask a girl for a date. After your heart is broken by her. Plz, write something for this world from your broken heart. Lol 😂
Now i am definitely going to watch this movie right now
Fuck that, not everyone is everything. You're born for something but it ain't always the thing you think you want most
This professor - Knows people by name and cares about how good of students they are.
My professor that I've had for 3 different classes now - Still calls me "man" because he doesn't know my name.
"it's subjective man we all have something to offer"
That really is bullshit.
2:59 that slight hint of a smile
Angel36930 3:04 that slight smile on your face when it's over
This film was great, can't believe it got 'mixed' reviews
I think what Mark was getting at with this scene is that it's usually the quiet and non-self-absorbed people who are usually the geniuses whereas the people who say they are intellectually, are usually the stupid ones.
This movie makes some interesting propositions, but people misinterpret and corrupt them so much that they become dangerous.
A true genius blazes a path that others follow. Someone who uses known information and expands it is a true genius.
Isaac Newton once said, "If I have seen farther than other men, it is only by standing on the shoulders of giants."
Here's an interesting observation. USA is quite racially divided in real life but multiracial in films. UK is multicultural in real life but british films are not as racially mixed
I dont get what you mean racially divided and how it applies to this scene.
Fuck off, you ableist.
depends on where you are in the USA, it's a big country you know
Yup depends where you live.
so your saying all Latinos are illegal?
Right. No amount of wishing will make it so. Effort will.
That's not...that's the exact opposite of what he's saying. No amount of wishing OR effort will get you there. You just have to be a genius, that's it.
If this was in real life, that prof would've been reprimanded and would probably never teach in that class again (maybe even the entire school)
I walked out of this movie.
mikehtv why
mikehtv why?
mikehtv why
I think me and my dad both fell asleep or something it was mad long ago
+mikehtv it came out in 2014
Wow what an horribly cringy scene
I thought I was alone on that impression.
Yeah Mark Whalberg trying to teach, so cringeworthy. In general it's a cringey scene.
Clichee and terrible acting, 2:38 with the random girl acting tough, Couldn't hold it anymore
It's not only the acting though. The monologue, which was probably supposed to be inspiring, is fucking terrible.
Fuck, I want to watch the whole movie now.
Almost as bad as your usage of an.
I would be in this guys class everyday. Give me a straight forward no bullshit professor over one of these tree hugging safe space hippy "professors" any day
Decent scene, would have been excellent if Wahlberg wasn't the professor and they didn't have that stupid extra included. They clearly weren't going for a realistic approach since no one would ever fucking say that to a professor.
i dont think any professor would say that to a student in front of the entire class either, not very realistic to me he is pretty much shitting on the entire class
a genius also wouldn't say some overly dramatic, vapid statement like "the middle is the safest place". Safe from what lol? That's the problem of trying to portray a genius. He can only be as smart as the person portraying him and if that person isn't very smart then the "genius" isn't going to be either.
joe shmo Completely overlooked that because Brie Larson is so talented an actress, she can make the most out of what she is given. Whoever directed or wrote this script clearly admires Aaron Sorkin because its so preachy and desperate to make this scene iconic, it does the opposite; it feels so forced
It's not even that hard to understand and you still don't get it, so let me elaborate. What the whole scene is about is what is the stumbling block of many exceedingly talented people (here referred as a "genius"). They hide in the mass because that's the safest place from really truly applying yourself, putting yourself in the line and being ready to fail. The "sitting in the front row" is a scary place to be, because you are under the spotlight and failure would be embarrassing. Hence the "safest" spot is in the middle. The "middle is the safest place" isn't to be taken for what it is, but what is the meaning behind it.
Wahlberg wasn't the problem, the writing was the problem. It came off as so incredibly shallow, pretentious and psuedo-intellectual. This scene was poorly written just like the rest of the movie, it's not deep, it's not hard to understand jack why you're writing a paragraph explaining the obvious I don't know, this is the kind of thing a 14 year old would find deep. Every scene in this movie was written with an air of self-importance and faux gravitas that just isn't there. The professor character and brie larson's character in the gambler are just a shallow facade of intelligence written by someone who seems relatively dull, has a huge ego and a lack of maturity.
This Blondie is the best actress the world had ever and will ever see
I think her mother was the genius, that’s where she got it from. She was also just insane
I love him. Haven't seen the movie, got no idea who he is but I love him
What the hell is Marky Mark's problem?
it's straight up reality check.
people suck and fear to follow their dreams, and america is full of conformist who dont strive for more in a land where you can be more than you ever dreamed off and he is tired of it.
Big Money Jorgie So is a man named Kanye West, but we hospitalized him.
Quincy Productions you're a tough troll. that's it, you've done nothing.
Big Money Jorgie It's like you don't even know me... But the truth still stands.
That quick little smile she does in the end though
To be a great writer all you have to be is extremely imaginative, or at minimum have a good idea. Your editor can fill in all the semicolons and other errors afterwards.
Brandon Matthew lol you must know nothing about writing
Eh, what?
i know it's been 4 years but how does this have 19 upvotes? it takes so much more than that, not least of all is the drive to spend time actually writing.
I'm going to have to agree with that. And the more _creative_ you are the harder it will be for your editors.
this inspired me to give up on my dreams
that was corny as hell
how does Mark Wahlburg get paid to "act"?......
I know of that...funny how the hollywood crowd can get away with thins like that ........
tbh i dont think any actor could have delivered that line well
TheCrazyKid1381 you ignorant shit
No clue where you got the suppremist thing. But the man was Vietnamese, not Korean - minor detail I guess, but enough to say that I've got gripes with your gripes. That man - whom he beat when he was 16, mind you - supported Walhberg's attempt at a pardon in 2014.
So uh, stop being gullible, internet. Look up your accusations.
Talent and hard work are seperate entities but if one has talent and yet strives with hardwork like they have no talent that is what makes a genius... while one can work tirelessly with their heart and soul but if they lack the spark that makes a flame they can just sit in the rain and rub two sticks together at best... talent is essential for genius... do not fool yourselves into thinking with hard work one can be a genius... and talent alone will not make you a person worth remembering in time you need both to become someone time will remember....
Sorry but Rock Lee's speech was better
hardwork > talent
PurpleFiiilth who da fak is rock Lee man? Hahaha
In a sense~.
A talented person who puts as much hard work as a regular non-talented individual will always thrive; perform better - be better.
That is the point of this scene.
Hard work will get you pretty far. But you will still be nothing compared to a person who simply has a gift for the same thing and puts in just as much work as you; or even if he puts less work than you, chances are he will still perform better.
Nikola Radev don t agree, an untalented person can develop by practicing talent, for example the talent of one person in football is that he makes good passes, a person who makes bad passes can develop that and reach the other erson in his talent, hard work will always be greater than talent
PurpleFiiilth R u talking abt naruto ? Rock lee ??
Oh boi a naruto fanboy. Itachi best character
Lots of people considered me a genius but i'm actually failing at everything in life so... hard work is where it's at.
Marky Mark!
James Donovan FEEL THE VIBRATION
LOL
That is just the thing i've been thinking about a lot lately. Each and everyone of us in the comment section of this video can be a writer. We all have the ability to string a couple sentences together on a piece of paper and call is a poem or a short story. But a fundamental factor that sets the good from the best, is creativity. If you don't have creativity, you have no hopes of writing a story.
I wish I were gifted :(
Wishes for gifts come from lazy perspective, if you want something why not go out and grab it because you're more than capable.
With out a doubt you'll struggle more than someone who has a keen ability for problem solving or a being who possess a creative mind but that won't stop you from realising your dream if you want it bad enough, people crush dreams and the first person in that line is your self.
+Conor Lamprey unfortunately these days its the path of least resistance.
you probably are, you just haven't found your niche in life.
A gift is no guarantee for genius.
Conor Lamprey Conor, someone nice that gives very good advice, that's rare on internet. (Is this real, or is it just a fantasy ^^) Well thank you Conor.
Looks like a cool movie
She's hot
nerdy chicks are the craziest in bed
both are, although the second blonde needs to stay quiet.
Big Money Jorgie frrrr
how do u know
The Black chick included.
She is such a cutie
I mean if you're an artist your genius is inherently subjective.
legoman7041 the majority of catchy one liners and impactful sentences that got this movie it's decent rating were self contradicting nonsense like you just pointed out, which to the credit of the premise, works, but in snippets like this, seem more like an idiot trying to sound smart that an insane guy trying to spread knowledge.
Shay Khan Nicely said
there are no contradicting one liners in this movie, you're just too stupid to understand their meaning
+ZeQen Ordinarily yes but art itself is subjective. There's no denying that einstein was a genius because he proved it with facts, but I personally don't see Jackson Pollock as an artistic genius while many others do. He was a man who started a movement by dripping paint on a canvas instinctively and most people don't even like it. Yet his paintings sell for hundreds of millions.
Drinker_Of_Milk How is art objective then huh? Care to elaborate?
Loved the movie , not because of the plot , but scenes like these .
riddle me this riddle me that. .
who is the genius she is miss glass 😂
who's afraid of the big black bat?
quetzal785 you should be afraid of the big bad wolf
and if you dont know him, please fuck off
someone has favourites
Agree and Disagree
Michael Jordan became Michael Jordan because he practiced and did everything he could to be who he was and is today.
Albert Einstein didn't become Einstein overnight and knew that 2+2=4.He became Einstein by discovering, and working harder at his craft.
You don't become a genius by being born it, you become one by doing what's necessary to attain that level of skill.
That's where I disagree.
Saying all of that, not everybody can just work hard to be Michael Jordan, Einstein, or Jay Z. That's just the reality of it. You can however be the best you and give the world whatever you have to give. So that's where I agree
I think you'll never know unless you try.You can't say you'll be a genius at writing and not work at it.You need to know yourself and what skills you bring to the table.You must know your strengths and weaknesses before you can say you'll be success or failure at a certain field.
+Mikey Lewis You're not really saying anything different than the movie character is. The worst trap for the untalented is a lack of judgment to realize their own mediocrity.
'Practice makes perfect' is nearly straight bullshit IMO.
Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan because he was 6'6", had crazy athletic ability, high basketball IQ, and he grinded ON TOP OF THAT.
Albert Einstein's IQ is judged to have been in the 160-190 bracket. He also grinded on top of his EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT GENETIC ADVANTAGE.
Perfect practice + perfect genes + perfect environmental stimuli make perfect.
Minds think to understand ideas. The only method of understanding is thought. And all minds are equal, until they begin to think.
jay Z? :Ddddd
The ability to make money is not indicative of talent or intelligence.
hell yeah! that's how I am with my students! only the hot ones of course!
And everyone in there developed an inferiority complex.
I love this movie
Pick one : 1) Genius 2) Arts degree
John Klitsko Since i already am the first one i will choose the second
then you aren't a genius, srry brah
John Klitsko k
You obviously aren't a genius
Tyrion Lannister Last time i checked people with an iq above 140 are considered geniuses, you fucking imp.
She writes good due to all the fanfiction she wrote at a young age.
Dirk Diggler
he went back to school
So you get called out in life from a person which sees in you what which you yourself somewhat know the courage to step out from the crowd is more courageous than following the path which has been taken by many. It is strange how we cannot see our own potential but others can. Life is wonderful full of great moments that are not recognized by many from speaking out in truth to going to work . But abpve all else loving yourself no matter the outcome honesty forgiveness and loving one another
I have an IQ of 132 that was professionally tested by "Mensa" but I'm also an engineer so I don't know if I increased my IQ by going to school or if I was born with it. Either way I am three standard deviations above the mean on the IQ normal distribution curve. I still feel like an idiot though. I am an idiot.
Will Tirad, Same...
Will Tirad
Weird flex, but ok.
Will Tirad sir u r no idiot if u r an engineer.please give urself a tap on ur shoulder and a glass of champagne to celebrate ur brilliance!
Off to watch this movie now..
"We all have something to offer."
You might be a good baker, data entry clerk, or garbage man, but you may never sell a single book on amazon just because you forked out the cash for your worthless degree. We don't all have what it takes to be exceptional.
You can tell this is a fictional movie! There's no INDOCTRINATION!
Wow this reminded me of how shitty this movie really was.
to be honest this is the rawest scene in hollywood coz usually they try to put a great speech about how each individual is meant to do sth which is not true. as he said it in the movie too dont waste ur time on writing if ur not genius at it. do sth else if ur good at sth else dont waste ur time.this place needs all sorts of people electricians,mechanics ...and there shouldnt be a shame in that . believe me i know
The person next to "ms. Philips" is in Grey's anatomy right? Or am I crazy?
congratulations , you are the only genius in the comment section
Drew Hessler no I don't think so
If i was in this class id be like
"Bitch wtf are yall talkin about, just teach the class damn I got homework for like 5 other classes waitin on me"
i'm convinced the intent of this movie was for it to be edgy to entitled liberal college students.
the title gave me the idea that this video would make me believe that i too am special in a way or sth like that... but "genius is material"? "if you don't have the magic, no amount of wishing will make it so"?? seriously xd
yeah thanks wahlberg!! no hopes left
this movie really sucked lol well to me it did
It was dogshit
The movie was a pretentious cockfuckery mess.
Ok so im reading the comments and read that the scene was a mess or was not good. I cant see why people dislike it so much. Honestly its my favorite part of the film for a reason.
2:42 What a continuity fuck up on his body position.
it was an alright movie
Loved this scene
Geniuses are made by critics, not born. If you've actually studied literature you know that. It's not about the person, it's not even about the work. It's about what we say about the work later.
That's my Wonder Woman but my God Gal Godit is right there with her
If you wanna call me a genius then you gotta think again
JKxGaming
Weird flex, but ok.
I love this.
I LUV THIS FILM !!!
That's beautiful.
Women like that are so unbelievably attractive [--,--]
"Genius is magic not material" Who taught this genius that magic is real....
I think he's right it's either you have the magic or you don't but the question is are you going to use it or not. For example, yes everyone in a singing group can sing but there's always one person who is better than the rest.
I have thought the exact same things.
oh what a special snow flake, you must be a genius but you don't know it yet
Ha Kou
U too must be some special genius for thinking I am one. So do u agree with what he says??
i like it when he said bullshit.... coz it's true. and it hurts
To be in the top 0.1% of the world in any competitive area, you have to first and foremost be a genius with pure luck giving talent in that area. Then you match it with unrelenting discipline, dedication and hard work.
An average and even a well above average person can hard work at something for 16 hours a day, every day for decades and still not even get close to someone who has pure luck giving talent in that area and then dedicates themself in the same way.
Of course in a 150 student sized class, the teacher would single one pupil out and indirectly chastise the rest for lack of ingenuity. The mental markings of a truly great preceptor... LOL.