The Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Meta Has Been Solved

[@aubrey143.]

Man, I just hope the rollers aren’t permanently meta. They look stupid and; I want tires that look good, and are good.

[@FailBetterGamez]

GLA Tires are viable, too 😊

[@nickoldenburg115]

As someone who used Tanooki Kart before the update, I see this as an absolute win

[@ToadetteTails6969]

Tanooki Kart is one of my favorite karts stylistically, so I also see this as an absolute win.

[@LordRotule]

I usually don't use the meta, I'm just mad that they decided to nerf my main Toadette for no reason... She was already bad and now she's even worse 💀

[@kayden2119]

I dont think pipe frame will ever be usable online but streetle is a 50/50 with teddy and inkstriker imo. I think it could be used interchangeably just like those two are now.

[@jamesvaden3703]

Pipe Frame has a bit of a disadvantage in air and aintigravity. But I’m still happy it’s now meta because that’s been my main combo since even before the Wave 4 balance patch and it will always be my favorite combo 💯👍🏽🔥

[@jamesvaden3703]

@CandidBanter The color changes are the best part about the combo. My main character is Medium Mii and I collected every single Amiibo Mii Suit in the game. The combo changes colors varying on every single suit which is actually sick 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@krislillies8825]

Imagine having to read up the best meta build for a mario kart game just to win instead of just using whatever and winning/topping

[@TylerChou059]

i am currently maining Daisy on the pipe frame with GLA tires. the i frames from the GLA does greatly help out the i frame nerfs the daisy class recieved

[@PKSparkxxDH]

Fantastic video. Short, concise and informative. I'm catching up on all things Mario Kart and this is a fantastic jumping off point.
Thank you for this!

[@sticks4382]

All I care about is that Roy got buffed in invincibility which means he's more viable online, and I'm really happy about that.

[@BRIE....]

Where do you have these stats from? I can't find the changes anywhere D:

[@sticks4382]

@@BRIE.... we got youtube videos showing all the stat changes. They have their information from people who verified by hand all the stats after Wave 5, and showing their results to discord servers :D

[@elia8544]

I thought Roy was meta

[@jcramirez77]

@@elia8544nope got nerfed with waluigi and dk

[@elia8544]

@@jcramirez77 oh alright

[@Kai_Wizzy]

Honestly with these changes for me, this may bring me back to competitive MK. the fact that i can use some characters (ex Mario & Tanooki Mario) and karts (ex. Pipe Frame) that are part of the meta is a huge win for me

[@haz2734]

no way nintendo makes furries the meta 💀

[@MarioGod853]

There is still villager male and inkling male but yeah

[@Puki5567]

I wouldn't mind furries being the meta.

[@SamuelMK_]

@@Puki5567 based and redpilled

[@Puki5567]

​@@SamuelMK_true.

[@qoobied]

At least it isn’t metal mario all over again

[@skilled_]

I've compared one combo to 2 of the main(?) meta combos usually used online, and heres what i found. so luigi, iggy or kamek on the pipeframe, button tires, and paper glider or cloud glider, has same or better stats than yoshi on the inkStricker with rollers and paper glider and luigi on teddy buggy with rollers and paper glider. WITH 2 EXCEPTIONS. one, the air speed. the air speed on the pipeframe combo i mentioned has less air speed and control, but i would say that doesnt matter, because your not going To spend most of your time in the air, nor does control really matter bc yk... you're in the air basically going straight. and the other thing, the mini turbo stat. for the pipeframe combo its 4.75, and the other 2 is 5. for me, i would say it wouldnt really matter, its only a one point difference, i think. if you want more mini turbo use the rollers, but then that would take away the "meta" stats, but if your decent at the game, then the rollers are a go for you. And the traction is less for the pipeframe combo, but its only a little difference and only matters on like 4 maps.

[@Paperboy01234]

I’d more think it’s Male Villager than Tanooki Mario, I said in another video he (Along with Female Villager) are the most quietest characters, so you can make more surprise attacks with items or just showing up with speed items without a trace or something.
I don’t know if silence on a character is an advantage, just a food for thought.

[@MirageIslander]

i dont think it is

[@Teknanam]

Its a VERY tiny advantage. Even less useful than the invincibility stat. Its useless when it comes to offensive items since if they are close enough, you won't have the time to react to their sounds at all. And if they are far enough away, you won't hear them in the first place compared to hearing the item. The only user case is the Mushroom, but then, what does that matter? You'll see them passing even if you're not using your rearview and if you don't have an item to stop them, all you'll really do is let them pass.

[@Paperboy01234]

@@Teknanam Must be why I still see more Yoshi. But strangely I do see more Male Villager in his weight class than the other two in his class he shares with, so what's the deal?

[@Rhapsody-.]

Funny thing is that, if the 2.3.0 balance changes wouldn't have been done, Wiggling Wiggler would be THE meta, since it got the same stats of Waluigi but a smaller kart size

[@cjaoun23240]

I hope they buff inward drifting bikes because they are fun to use

[@agentblackbird9435]

Same, Comet/Yoshi Bike literally has the same stats as Teddy Buggy/Cat Cruiser

[@selkirkswift]

I think they should remove inward drifting altogether

[@cjaoun23240]

@@selkirkswift why? Its nice to have many different playstyles in the game. Its not like in Mario Kart Wii where inward bikes were OP.

[@MChessM]

Video 63 of asking JPGiviner to bring back "How to Play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe" for the BCP and 200cc

[@sweetrocks610]

TL;DW: Yoshi/teddy buggy/roller still best combo. Best contender is tanooki mario/tanooki cart/roller

[@pripples]

What glider is best with yoshi teddy buggy roller

[@sweetrocks610]

@@pripples paper glider

[@pripples]

@@sweetrocks610 thank you

[@marisolramirez9591]

I used Tanooki Mario frequently before this, so I see this as a win

[@TylerSoriano]

Wiggler Wiggler combo will always be my main.

[@fish5643]

Walu Wiggler My beloved

[@Rhapsody-.]

I'm just hoping they do something with the lightweights characters. Not only they were already in a disadvantage since always because of their low speed, but now they even got nerfed in invincibility, leaving almost no reason to pick a lightweight character even on a more casual scenario.
I just want to use ma' boy Toad without being punished that much :'(

[@Aladdindoescubes]

isn't daisy like pretty good for time trials?

[@Rhapsody-.]

@@Aladdindoescubes Daisy is midweight, those are the meta now

[@Aladdindoescubes]

@@Rhapsody-. I meant like baby daisy

[@Bimbo_MN]

rip my boy yoshi

[@georgefidas8569]

Ong

[@Bimbo_MN]

@@georgefidas8569I posted that before the video was premiered. So after watching it, at least he’s still good to use :) I thought he was gonna get knocked down

[@Kuro99mm]

What did they nerf on yoshi?

[@Bimbo_MN]

@@Kuro99mm no but I posted that comment before the video premiered so I thought they nerfed him. But after watching I realized that that’s not what jp meant. Its cuz he did the same thing last time for wave 4 where Waluigi wiggler wasn’t good anymore and it was Mario using standard kart

[@Kuro99mm]

@@Bimbo_MN ohh ok gotchu

[@markomanx]

They keep making the game faster and faster.
I love it.

[@jeako777]

After seeing teddys everywhere... I miss the Waluigi Wiggler meta 😅

[@squidMB]

we rock petey, pipe frame, roller & cloud wheels. A little bit of everything.

[@Digga_Darby_the_flyingGardener]

the heavy weight classes got significant invincibility buffs with the waluigi weight class having 0.75 wario weight class getting 1.00 and bowser and morton getting 1.25 along with some other tires like slicks and off road getting 0.25+ mini turbo increase. in my opinion thats huge

[@oppa.24]

Thing is invincibility is one of the least important stats

[@Digga_Darby_the_flyingGardener]

@@oppa.24 i cant count the amount of times invincibility frames saved me from getting mario karted

[@Kod49]

What about Kamek Luigi Iggy? I have been seeing them used alot since wave 5. Even in high-level Japan lobbys.

[@JK2002-]

Think I am still going to play Mario Teddy or Biddybuggy, sometimes i like to play Metal Mario Teddy and with Petey having the same Stats as Metal Mario (bit more i frames) it's a pretty nice combo

[@PK_Yoshi]

Me watching this video knowing well I’m still going to use Yoshi Mr.Scootie

[@Snsy]

I hope wave 6 buffs the Pipe Frame more, I hate the Teddybuggy.

[@polartom]

My favourite combo rn in medium mii on streetle

[@Avatar-fc2qi]

I’d say Tanooki Mario, Male Villager, and Inkling Boy are superior to Yoshi due to their higher weight stat. Weight is more important than traction, which is the only advantage Yoshi has over them.

[@marshi7777]

Surprised you didnt mention Rosalinas buffs

[@TydalWaveShark]

I'm just happy bowser got an invincibility frames buff

[@skycaboose]

Happy to see Streetle get buffed since I use that kart alot for the water tracks and you may laugh now on Wiggler on Wiggler Wednesday setup but it's the best of the original boring threats of MK8DX cause of smaller hitbox, plus Yoshi got nerfed

[@TriCraft1]

I don’t care that the pipe frame has worse stats than the teddy because it has the same stats as the varmint and that’s my favourite vehicle so now that it’s viable I will use it

[@juliansmm_]

Really good video, that was super interesting and helpful to watch! Your editing/video design has improved a lot and I love what youre doing for the MK community, keep it up!

[@rileyneilson6414]

Honestly still enjoying Roselina standard kart sponge it’s a slightly faster version of what Waluigi wiggler was I like using only parts unlocked at the start cause a lot of the tournaments I play in don’t have all the parts unlocked so this way I know my combo will be available

[@WillaRDash04]

I think I won't have any problems with the tanooki kart. I played already fine with the cat-cruiser, the sportcoupe and the GLA.

[@zek2234]

INKLING BOY IS GOOD! i use to use inkling boy all the time and i still do. super happy to see my favourite character get a buff.

[@Sly_Maverick_31]

Since the wave 4 patch, I've been using the Pipe Frame and City Tripper a lot more so knowing they've been buffed puts a smile on my face. I'm also gonna go back and use the Streetle more.

[@supermario6387]

I’m glad that the pipe frame isn’t the best kart because that along with the standard are my main karts, and I don’t want people to think I use them for the meta

[@Tinaphromad]

Why does it matter to you what other people think of you in an online racing game? Their anger is their problem.

[@supermario6387]

@@Tinaphromad Because I’d rather be my own person than follow some weird meta that doesn’t even work most of the time because of all the item gameplay, and it also ties back to the “if your friends jump off a cliff would you join them” saying as well

[@renyama8524]

Nah Tanooki isn't meta. Yoshi is still easier to use.

[@nj_gods]

Unfortunately no… Tanooky has recived 3 buffs i think (+0.25 miniturbo, speed and invicibility)

[@renyama8524]

@@nj_gods No he got buffed only in mini-turbo

[@Katzenstar]

I think Luigi is Meta now, as he didn't get nerfed in Invincibility and has great stats

[@renyama8524]

@@Katzenstar So true. Him, Mario, Medium Mii, and Iggy are probably the best now

[@renyama8524]

@jarrod13 Yep. Already half of my worldwide race lobby were using Kamek

[@TheStalePretzel]

The sad thing about mariokart 8 dx is that just about everyone online uses only the meta. I wish everyone used custom combos that they think is fun instead of just using the meta.

[@gamecubeplayer]

there should be an online mode where all characters & vehicle parts have the same stats

[@rasberrydefender1930]

I saw prior to wave 5 Yoshi Inkstriker way more often than Yoshi Teddybuggy, but now I start to see it more

[@AMelhorCoisaDeTodas]

isn't yoshi, daisy, peach and birdo the same in terms of stats? if they are... WHY PEOPLE ONLY USE YOSHI??????

[@mr_kraabs6951]

What glider do i use for teddy bear rollers?

[@sabelaine6044]

Love how like half of players I encountered were playing Wiggler/Wiggler day 1 of wave 5 😂

[@Heartfia]

I’m honestly disappointed that yoshi combo is going to remain within the meta. I seriously feel like the only one that thinks it looks so ridiculously stupid. The ink striker combo is a little more bearable, but overall I think there’s being so much potential wasted when it comes to how aesthetically pleasing the meta combo could look. There are so many cooler looking vehicles wheels and gliders in this game that I don’t even see get used online. A shame.

[@Tinaphromad]

Nobody is forcing you to use the meta. There's like a dozen combinations that have good speed + MT so its not like you have no choice.

[@Heartfia]

@@Tinaphromad I’m aware, the look just lacks professionalism though. Funky kong flame runner and daisy mach bike in mario kart wii were far superior in aesthetic. You may not agree with me, but I would just prefer the meta combo to look more aesthetically pleasing.

[@Leeland64YT]

Just saying this but I was messing around with Mario kart builder 1.4, it still has the 2.3.0 stats, but I found out that koopa troopa had the same invincibility, and mini turbo as yoshi in 2.3.0, and koopa troopa wasn't patched with the 2.4.0 balance patch because nobody found this out and nobody knew about it, this means that koopa troopa with teddy buggy and rollers and animal crossing glider is a good combo, I'm surprised that nobody found this out

[@LoganMercer7]

streetle and pipe frame have an extra acceleration stat, meaning the will accelerate a bit faster, whihc might be something to consider.

[@RellekEarth]

I'm just disappointed that the meta kart combo still looks stupid af. Why are all the dumb looking karts the best ones? I'll never understand.

[@QwertyS3]

Mach 8 has the same stats as ink striker but just with a bigger hitbox. Use it with gla or standard tires

[@yungmuney5903]

Its the rollers dude, i hate the rollers

[@QwertyS3]

@@yungmuney5903 Gla tires are viable

[@RellekEarth]

@@QwertyS3 mach 8 is ugly af too. I personally think standard look way better than the gla

[@davidng2336]

I won’t be surprised if yet another new patch comes in wave 6.

[@manyl2569]

Rip yoshi 😭

[@Yoshi_1000]

I love Yoshi teddybuggy rollers

[@animeisbadngl]

i don't understand the yoshi combo meta, its so bad when i play it

[@Makerman555]

I know it is hard to understand

[@mauroperez2848]

The pipe frame is one of my personal favorites and I'm glad it got a buff. Regardless of your thoughts on the meta, you should still use what you like and what works for you.

[@sylviethevix]

Question I don't know I you'll know the reason but why do people play Inkstiker when the Mach 8 and the sports coupe when they have a I-Frame stat of 0.25 but the Inkstiker has a I-frame stat of 0
Even though it is a minuscule difference why not play the other ones instead, on the off chance it actually makes a difference.

[@oppa.24]

Bc of Kusaan effect

[@MeesterTweester]

5:13 I'm not lol
We got some interesting changes this wave... we'll see if Tankooki/Inkling/Villager takes over or not

[@TheOnlyDTM]

bro tanooki cart is so good with rollers and cloud glider

[@greeskywalker]

the cat peach class also got +0.25 mini turbo right? i think that the cat peach class is better

[@brycemkw]

Cat peach class has the same MT as Yoshi now but has less speed

[@rasberrydefender1930]

Kamek Pipeframe is also really cool

[@coltonk.3086]

Wiggler² will be #1 in our hearts

[@Super_star_remix]

tanooki mario being buffed has made me enjoy MK8 way more

[@BeckyBaluga]

Nah man why you gotta do my boi Yoshi like that

[@DoMorrMusic]

funny thing is I mained Tanooki Mario before this patch
in Battle Mode

[@superfreddybrosespanol6781]

Can people stop complaining about the Waluigi Wiggler? It's pointless and ridiculous!
In MK Wii a room full of Funky Kong in the Flame Runner was not a problem. In MK 7 a room full of Metal Mario in the B-Dasher was not a problem. Oh but now in MK 8 a room full of Waluigi in the Wild Wiggler is now problem?!

[@icyMonkey288]

Ok I have a question if Rosalina with teddy bear and small weels and paper glider still good

[@stanleyching]

im personally rocking with that villager boy teddybuggy 🔥🔥

[@BearUNLV]

Teddy Buggy still goated and i fully expect people to stick to Medium builds

[@Minetendo_Fan]

I just like using Mario standard everything, drives very smooth and has good traction

[@pripples]

What glider should I use with yoshi teddy buggy roller

[@NoxP1chu]

2 things
1 I think pipe frame will be meta because it has better acceleration than the teddy buggy, which is more important than the secondary speed stats at least for me
2 what is the remix of wario's goldmine you used at the very end of the video? it sounds really cool with the piano and synth

[@eriktokar4487]

so it does that mean i can use pipe frame?

[@geo3317]

In my opinion, stats shouldn't really matter too much unless you're doing time trials. I would personally pick the pipe frame or streetle over the teddy buggy because they are my most favorite karts in the game

[@bladexrush8928]

Facts!
Am happy they are making lots of other frames viable so that they can compete atleast😊.
Making the game more colorful competitive.

[@Tinaphromad]

If stats don't matter so much then why have:
1. People been complaining about them so much?
2. Nintendo keep buffing the worser stat combos since wave 3?

[@geo3317]

@@Tinaphromad Because they were sick of seeing waluigi wigglers in every online match, that's probably the only reason why they did balance changes (same thing with yoshi in wave 4, so they nerfed his invincibility and buffed tanooki mario in wave 5). They just want to see more variety in online races, is that too much to ask for?

[@Grizzly_Girl777]

I have the 2.4.0 version of the game and I'm not sure what kart combo would be best. I have no idea what he is talking about "wave 5" and such but I can't figure it out. Does anyone know what kart would be best for v 2.4.0?

[@rronche]

If anyone’s a fan of inwards drifting, yoshi bike and comet have the same stats as teddy buggy

[@zetachaox]

More options is good, the gap between combos keeps shrinking. I wish the changes were morr agressive on the worse parts, they're a bit better but still garbage.

[@HumanLmao]

dry bowser and streetle got buffed, thats all that truly matters to me

[@adamalam1670]

Still using the Yoshi Bike, but I might pull out the Landship once in a while.

[@NelsFofana]

We finally have ACTUAL KARTS meta Again 🙌🏿 that Tanuki Combo gonna be my Main

[@impenetrableboy9252]

Tandookie Mario is my favorite character yess

[@ven7389]

Tbh i think wiggler wiggler is just going to be a meme to the mario kart 8 community

[@ashtonb561]

IVE BEEN A TANOOKI MARIO MAIN FOREVER IM SO HAPPY

[@mrlitty8330]

What about Yoshi on the Biddy-buggy with Rollers and Paper Glider?

[@gamecubeplayer]

the biddybuggy isn't optimal & it has bad invincibility

[@bathalicious1852]

I love baby bear so much

[@deadheat1635]

I thought Link/Rosalina/King Boo was the meta character last wave?

[@kingdededethegod5313]

It was thought initially, but it switched to yoshi class and luigi class

[@vicktane]

Don't worry man Bowser will have the buff to dominate Next wave....🔜👑

[@SuperSmashTurtle]

Bro I Still Use Yoshi As My Main But The New Characters Are Still Vary Good

[@billybobmcthroop298]

I'm happy the meta is expanding

[@kcchristian]

Guys I solved the MK8DX online meta: race better than your opponents and your kart won't matter that much

[@QwertyS3]

In higher ranked lobbies your kart combo does matter.

[@InklingGamer7626]

I'm So happy My man inkling boy got buffed!

[@deadheat1635]

Has the meta changed slightly now with the small invincibility rebalance?

[@jaydenk-l8741]

Rip yoshi

[@TheHorseWhoKnows]

I feel like link might start sliding into the meta at least I hope

[@JB-vp9rb]

ATVs are the best Karts, this is the reason why the Other new bufft Karts have a disetvantage, i think the only Other Karts that Couleur be Meta are the Spalt buggy if they increase the hidden Speed stats or the wildwiggler Again. But they have to be careful because if they give the wild wiggler a mt buff its again the best Vehicle, if they buff it, they should give it a increase in groundspeed, so the Teddy and inkstriker are a Little Bit better. The biddy buggy and mr scooty are the only non atv Frames which Could be a Meta contender becaus of the mt, but they have to give them a Speed increase. For the tires, they have to buff all tires very Hard to Ende the Roller Meta, its very difficult. For the characters, i Hope they buff Metal Mario so Peety will be better. They also have to buff the Small characters Boy giving them way more Speed do be good. Thats my thaugts

[@Justin-420]

Can't wait to dominate the room with villager

[@FreaKazaN]

NAAAAHHH wiggler wiggler be boing HORD still

[@rasberrydefender1930]

Inkling Boy is also good

[@keenanbear7131]

Yay my boy Tanooki Mario is Meta I have over 20000 races with him!!!

[@calypsosun2967]

I like that combo but I think king Boo, teddy, roller, and cloud

[@stanleyching]

bro has it against wiggler wiggler 🗣