trust me bro better anticheat is gonna come without kernal access and even if valo has kernal anticheat cheating there is still a problem bcz cheaters will find a way to
one of the most annoying thing. a e-date teammate where they don't com, either the both of them are trash or one of them is carrying the other one. I'd rather have a cheater because you know it's gg than a edater. lmao
@@Azemed thats what people said in the beggining of cs2 lmao, also been playing valorant since day one havent played vs any cheater that I could detect, while in cs been playing since 2013 and .... Ye let's not talk about it
Yes because it doesn't matter, are you a cyber criminal with 500m in bitcoin, did you hack Russia's power grid? Did you ransomware the NHS, did you launder money out of the CCP? No? Then what are you so afraid of you probably gave Facebook your details and have pictures posted in your house with location on in meta data
You know that "spyware" is everywhere, right? People already checked what it's logging and since it has no key-logger it max. can send your specs and even if it would send your game info and driver specs and all that, it's nothing new. Many ACs are doing that. And you don't know to whom Valve is selling your sys info. We are living as transparent users most of the time... especially when using a smartphone. Don't act like selling system or personal data is something new please... it even happens when you pay with your CC at the supermarket - or when you use stuff like digital coupons (Payback etc.)
so is faceit or google.. Just because you grew up in another region doesnt mean big forces have the same motifs. look up "Business collaboration with Nzi Germany" I dont justify it, because I use neither anti cheat, but dont act like you'd care. Because I menitoned google I also recommend ubolck to disable trackers, since they are also "absolutely spyware"
@@sonatine3266there's a difference between the largest American game distributor using data logged from the game launcher and a dedicated "anti cheat" from a country where the line between governments and companies is blurry.
"Oh no, I hope China don't see all the prn i've been watching ;0" = You "We were planning on releasing what you've been watching to all your close relatives and friends in order to damage you and the rest of Americans social lives" = China probably
@@Arif-mr2mk sure but what new info did u get? Im actually not wondering that the kernel anti cheat runs at boot since you want to run it befor the cheater loads his software
Completely agree, He basically explained what a Kernal level software is and risks with it but didn't touch on what data Vanguard is processing. Unity Research's video is better, she basically show how it's usually bypassed or how there are still scripting but due to how less obvious it is people don't care as much.
I dual boot just to play certain games or play off my laptop on an isolated network that i have setup recently I didn't know what any if the packets mean but i know vanguard be sending random stuff sometimes.
3:20 i had this and it's just a bug, doesnt really do anything but first time i saw that i had 4tb while having 1tb space and i got a little bit scared
5:44 The reason why you have to restart your computer for Vanguard to run properly is to provide better protection. Cheats are also made on the same kernel level as all those other drivers, and as the guy in the video said, there are different levels in kernel. Most VALORANT cheats will make you restart your computer so their driver can load with the deepest possible access, which grants them one special ability: to hide themselves. The kernel driver can completely hide itself from the system and Vanguard, hence why Vanguard requires you to restart your computer, so it can catch these cheats before they hide.
Its funny because the worst experience you can have in valorant is to queueing with cringe peaple, meanwhile cs is full of cheaters and bots farming cases hahahah
it is a spyware but thats not the most dangerous thing about it if someone gets control of vanguard ( the anticheat ) because its always on they can nuke every pc that has it or because its in the kernel level they can do a lot worse things also if i remember correctly LoL also started using vanguard so not only valorant players but LoL players are also in danger
it is actually not as hard to hack into riot than the other big companies riot's cyber security team is shit even you can do it i have a ex-riot dev friend thats a cyber security expert now and he was saying the same as me he got his job in riot by hacking into Tr LoL servers vanguard is not only a spyware but can be much worse idk how safe they are rn but the websites are s***
@@TrueHalo the thing is vanguard is not the only ac thats's kernel level. Theres Face it, Battleye, EAC, Ricochet. Sadly thats the only way to fight cheaters now, to give games full access to your computer.
@@jellibean7729 like i stated and the other guy said its the only one that is always running all of the ones you said and the other games use start with the game and shut down with the game also most of them are not chinese and if someone even tries to get in they shut it down and make the game unplayable i hope this helps
@@TrueHalo if it helps, you can actually deactivate vanguard but you won’t be able to play any of riot’s game you would have to restart your computer to play again
Once I quit vanguard by formating pc, creating a restore system intalling valorant playing then restoring and the account was signed so I played whit no vanguard and guess what the game feelt more fluid I even got a ton of kills it was like if that thing gives you lagg progressively like if all your choises in game and match history counts by who you play agains, I felt that way but who knows right xD
People really think a system driver can be injected into kernel level while running. They are loaded into the kernel while booting when fhe UEFI initializes every other OS driver
You absolutely can dynamically load both device and kernel drivers without a reboot. Device and kernel drivers are not controlled by UEFI, but by the OS. They are completely separate things.
Privacy is one thing what people are not aware of is that you also open up your entire system for other nefarious things, You could very well be a worm in a cluster or be exploited for crypto mining and you would never know. Valorant may not have malicious intentions however we do not know the other parties that are involved or what external party can acquire access to this information. It wouldn't be the first time and certainty not the last time that this has happen. People shouldn't just accept this, Yes it has benefits for sure but can also have serious consequences to the point that i may be a legal matter. Transparency is key and necessary so that people with the know how can validate these software.
Yh, but at the end of the day anything could be exploited. I mean you could just check haveibeenpwned to see if your data has been exposed and quite often you'd find that your data's been breached. Compared to the other 100 ways I could be exploited online, vanguard just isnt anything crazy.
7:07 what if the anticheat doesnt start with windows normally, and everytime you wanna play you have to reboot your PC to turn it on.. that way, it doesnt need to run ALL the time
could definitively work. but it is inconvenient for most users. and supporting a feature like that costs money (paying devs) but doesn't generate money, so they prob wont.
valorants anticheat is shady as fk. people think only dma cheats and capture card cheats are possible which is totally wrong. it's your machine don't give anyone else access to it
Valorant never took 2TB in anyone's system. If you are seeing such screen shot there might be a bug during install and files were extracted multiple times, or they manually pasted files worth that much size into the folder Also someone from Riot gave the explanation to why vanguard runs all the time. So when you report a player in game, there has to be enough reports for the anti cheat to check the system. Then if the player getting reported isn't online at that time and gets reported after, his PC still gets scanned for cheats. If the anticheat closed with the game, it would not be able to scan the pc for cheats. and in those cases the cheaters; pc would not get scanned and they would escape a ban.
Am I the only one that would rather give their data to China instead of my home country? China cant do shit, while "your" country technically could do what they want
_"What is Chna gonna do with it [his data]?"_ - That's something we'll never know, but I think even ohneopixel would find the idea of other people looking at logs of everything he does on his computer (without approval), deeply discomforting. I know I would. Plus this isn't advertising data like what Google and Meta are known for collecting, this is far more. Potentially everything you send and revieice on your PC, everything you do, who you are, how you align, personal stuff, etc. Wouldn't surprise me if Vanguard could also act as a secret two-way connection. So because this isn't advertisement data, it makes you wonder what could motivate them so much in collecting this data to the point of building it into a video game anticheat? That by itself should be concerning.
@@jeanepessoa4327 tiktok is worse because it gives access to the data on any unlocked device that is connected to your wifi, vanguard only collects data on the machine where it is installed
yes your data being collected is a bad thing, and we should all take steps to stop giving away our data. but tencent google meta and all other companies are essentially the same. they sell data to other companies, and they cooperate with their governments (in the us the patriot act comes to mind). they're all motivated by money, and only money. tencent is not moral, but neither is google or meta.
Important infos. 1 - Tencent for better or for worse owns pretty much a bit of everything even outside of videogames 2 - Tencent owns majority of Riot Games for years now this isnt something new for them to do 3 - Although Vanguard was advertised with Valorant's release its main purpose eventually was to become League of Legends's anticheat since League is way way way way bigger than Valorant or any other game for that matter 4 - Vanguard is easy to break/disable and although not a Valo player my self as far as i know a large majority of players Diamond and above do cheat one way or another for atleast 2 years now. 5 - as i said Vanguards main purpose eventually was to be League's anti-cheat but the way League works makes it useless since in League you can catch someone cheating without any anti-cheat extremely easily If you are going to be fearfull of Vanguard be because Riot developed it when they didnt and dont need to catch cheaters but still chose to knowing that this situation would arise.
all these paranoid people out here thinking oh no I'm the most important person in the world, what I do on my computer is edward snowden shit... simple, turn off the anti cheat and restart your pc when you decide to play the game... big deal
I think that Kernel is a choice by the devs at riot seeing how unsuccessful are the other levels, I think tecent mainly influences business decisions and marketing. They mainly want the game to make money
@@MyyColorsFadednot exactly, since riot is an NA based company thats the government they abide by. Meaning yes, they need to follow the laws of the americans
@@kivori3438 Riot started in North America and is now 100% owned by Tencent. Tencent fully controls the company now, and Tencent is forced/required to send all data to their government. iirc Riot is the only one that Tencent fully owned YET. unlike Discord they just owned a share.
i would rather do the chinese thing and just show my id and have no anti cheat rather then the kinda sus anti cheat that could possably get hacked and hack me.
why cant you just download cheats before booting up game? cheats are different some must use game files, some not. even vanguard cant detect trigger bot. if you smart enough i guess the fact that kernel ac is off can give you smth. for how long cheaters have their acc not banned after one-two games, from 1 day to 48 hours. and still take my whole ass i prefer playing chill and safe without cheaters, then i would have 4 of them every match i played
What people need to remember is, just get another computer dedicated to playing valo. If privacy is important have 2 PCs. One is dedicated to all games while the other is dedicated to valo, faceit, or any other kernel level anticheat
lets say tencent is spying on me. tf are they stealing? what do I have that they want that fucking google also doesnt already know about me? at least the AC works.
they sell the data to advertising firms. allso there are people who are studying or researching stuff on private pc´s and research can be really valuable. worst case you open a work email with sensitive data and comprimise firm secrets.
How do you think spam callers, spam emails and any other form of spammers know exactly when you move houses, get insurance, or send you advertisements literally the exact moment you do something important in your life?
So you can turn it off if you're not playing it. Then open only when you want to play. That's why Valorant anti-cheat works better than CS2. If you let it work only when playing then it's easy to override or make a way around it.
Valve kinda pisses me off cause of how much slow they are that looks like its just old people working there cs2 is a huge mess and in dota2 i feel like this year they are leaving it to saudi. Both got overtaken by riot Lol and valo for fuck sake Valve do something not just look at it like you're blind.
bro is nonsense paranoid talking about anticheat being spyware, you’re own computer literally running Microsoft as a system, u browsing using google, u read&write this comment using internet on youtube all that it's spyware 😂. they all have your data who cares
@@MAXRAY-bw9kvanything and everything is spying on you. Cookies? Microsoft? Google? Even alternative browsers. All of it is spying on you. Just choose who you want spying on you
@@neuronaljunctiondecay5673 you sure? if you use Chrome, google already know all of your search engines and they can even force ads to your liking even on RUclips. If you use Chrome they have the ability to save your credit card, address, location, microphone, and search data. With RUclips they can also know your video preference. Heck they can even determine what you search on google, depending on region they can push certain politics agendas like what happened during the election like what the netflix show Social Dilemma describes. In theory google have more to gain having your data than tencent. Scummy as it is, any search engine using chromium and windows took your data that's why it's hard to use them without creating an account since that's the way they track you.
I refuse any game with kernel level anti-cheat... anti-cheat does not have any business at all to exist at kernel level. It's a security breach that players are inserting in their own computers. Games that have this sort of anti-cheats either they work on the cloud game services and I play there or I just don't play them at all... League of legends by adding this BS into their game It's no longer a game for my computer. But that's also because my computer is not only for gaming, it's where I have personal data, also work and confidential information.... so yes but no thanks :D Also vanguard requires to turn off a feature in bios that I require for work.. it would be a pain to turn it on/off every time I wanted to play a game.... If my computer was just a plain gaming computer and for nothing else and also complete isolated from other computers network wise, I would might give it a thought.... But in the end kernel level anti-cheat does not accomplish nothing, it's still possible to cheat (speaking as a computer engineer and a software developer), all this things does is giving players a false sense of cheat free games, they will still be obliterated in game by cheaters with the difference that now they will just think that the other guy is just better.
Duh. Kernel anti cheats are based on previous malwares, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. If valve does not create a kernel anticheat Cs2 is cooked.
@@IVEdge Yes it does. Look at Valorant. People got banned for charging their phones on PC while playing as Vanguard thought it was being used for cheats
idk why he points out the tos, its been long determined they mean nothing and are not legally enforceable, they are purely just to scare people away from lawsuits. Hes also just straight up incorrect about how it shouldnt need to be running when your system is turned on. Without this its much easier to get around anti cheats, which is why valorant is way more cheat free than any other modern game.
That TPSC video is so sloppy, there is nothing to suggest that Valorant Vanguard is at all influenced by the Tencent or the CCP, they are developed by an american team. And american data is held in american datacenters.
For people actually thinking its horrible, and that its spyware is actually braindead. You might aswell delete Discord then, because some of it is also owned by tencent.
Every online game that serious about their game integrity used Kernal level anti-cheat... Just stick to single player game if you don't like it, simple
@@sirgg3847 classic use of whataboutism. I dont agree with everything google does but I know I have better odds using some applications over others. And I know some apps are more intrusive then others. But sure spin it however you want
Игры
CSGO: Pray you don't play vs cheaters
Valorant: Pray you don't have eDaters in the game
cs2 >>>>>>
anytime of the day even if i get cheated on
@@kexrus1693 if you're a mashocist it's on you ig 😭, y'all cs fanboys can't appreciate both games
trust me bro better anticheat is gonna come without kernal access
and even if valo has kernal anticheat
cheating there is still a problem bcz cheaters will find a way to
one of the most annoying thing. a e-date teammate where they don't com, either the both of them are trash or one of them is carrying the other one. I'd rather have a cheater because you know it's gg than a edater. lmao
@@Azemed thats what people said in the beggining of cs2 lmao, also been playing valorant since day one havent played vs any cheater that I could detect, while in cs been playing since 2013 and .... Ye let's not talk about it
Tencent owns a little bit of everything... Riot, epic, discord etc.. and it owns most of the mobile gaming market too..
discord? epic? never knew about those
and one of tencents former executives started ByteDance, TikToks parent company. So basically, the CCP has data on billions of people.
@@batplaysstuff339 yup tencent owns 5% of tesla shares too... tencent are huge and they buy shares in every western tech companys...
Dont forget Tesla aswell....
yeah they own Supercell
I don’t care if it’s spayware or not but no one can make me play this game hell naaah 💀💀
wise words 🚨
I have. Worst decision ever
It’s okay to admit you’re a boomer
@@NAND0___not an age thing. the game is terrible 😂
NAAAAAAARRRRRRR
i like how he pauses the video every two seconds to say an extremely dumbed down version of what the video is actually saying
yes it absolutly is and people dont care about it
Yes because it doesn't matter, are you a cyber criminal with 500m in bitcoin, did you hack Russia's power grid? Did you ransomware the NHS, did you launder money out of the CCP? No? Then what are you so afraid of you probably gave Facebook your details and have pictures posted in your house with location on in meta data
You know that "spyware" is everywhere, right? People already checked what it's logging and since it has no key-logger it max. can send your specs and even if it would send your game info and driver specs and all that, it's nothing new. Many ACs are doing that. And you don't know to whom Valve is selling your sys info. We are living as transparent users most of the time... especially when using a smartphone. Don't act like selling system or personal data is something new please... it even happens when you pay with your CC at the supermarket - or when you use stuff like digital coupons (Payback etc.)
so is faceit or google..
Just because you grew up in another region doesnt mean big forces have the same motifs.
look up "Business collaboration with Nzi Germany"
I dont justify it, because I use neither anti cheat, but dont act like you'd care. Because I menitoned google I also recommend ubolck to disable trackers, since they are also "absolutely spyware"
Of course no one cares, spyware is everywhere, even in your phone and on your PC from the very beginning. It doesn't affect your life at all
@@sonatine3266there's a difference between the largest American game distributor using data logged from the game launcher and a dedicated "anti cheat" from a country where the line between governments and companies is blurry.
Oh no, I hope China don't see all the prn i've been watching ;0
venturiq3297 they already do that lmao 🤣 bro has a google account and talking about privacy
venturiq3297 You know that going on youtube is enough to compromise a lot of your privacy right?
venturiq3297 im sorry but thats literally all companies
Shi can I see the stuff u watch tho?? Need recommendations
"Oh no, I hope China don't see all the prn i've been watching ;0" = You
"We were planning on releasing what you've been watching to all your close relatives and friends in order to damage you and the rest of Americans social lives" = China probably
i see ma drilla i click
So the video gave us no additional info at all?
Did bro even watch the video
@@Arif-mr2mk sure but what new info did u get? Im actually not wondering that the kernel anti cheat runs at boot since you want to run it befor the cheater loads his software
Completely agree, He basically explained what a Kernal level software is and risks with it but didn't touch on what data Vanguard is processing.
Unity Research's video is better, she basically show how it's usually bypassed or how there are still scripting but due to how less obvious it is people don't care as much.
@@LonelyAncient thank you for the hint. The video from her is pretty good
I pray for the guy who reviews all the data he sees from my computer. The amount of therapy he will need.
Dont u think its a red flag that a anti cheat is open EVEN WHEN THE GAME ISNT!
You can turn it off while the game is not open
and opens again on reboot, even if you turn the setting off
@@prayrustYT you know you can uninstall it , lol
@@SnepyV2 I did, I don’t play dog shit games
Because all cheats start on boot before the game is even open.
I dual boot just to play certain games or play off my laptop on an isolated network that i have setup recently I didn't know what any if the packets mean but i know vanguard be sending random stuff sometimes.
Helldivers 2 has a similar kernel level rootkit built in for anyone wondering
yeah but do we need to keep a app that’s legit spying on us just to play it?
Idc it still runs on linux on usermode
3:20 i had this and it's just a bug, doesnt really do anything but first time i saw that i had 4tb while having 1tb space and i got a little bit scared
5:44
The reason why you have to restart your computer for Vanguard to run properly is to provide better protection. Cheats are also made on the same kernel level as all those other drivers, and as the guy in the video said, there are different levels in kernel. Most VALORANT cheats will make you restart your computer so their driver can load with the deepest possible access, which grants them one special ability: to hide themselves. The kernel driver can completely hide itself from the system and Vanguard, hence why Vanguard requires you to restart your computer, so it can catch these cheats before they hide.
u got it wrong the application that comunicates with the drive has no reason to be running all but the driver does
doesnt vanguard like auto ban you if it detects you downloading sketchy software? i feel like i remember a story like that but im not certain
i love when ohnepixel gives me his footage raw
Its funny because the worst experience you can have in valorant is to queueing with cringe peaple, meanwhile cs is full of cheaters and bots farming cases hahahah
Both games kinda suck nowadays for different reasons ngl
at least i get to play V as a functioning fps game. Not saying much but hey...
@@nguyentri6651 i get to play cs, a functioning fps game. Not saying much but hey...
@@snoks as in 1.6 ? yeah. That's a masterpiece right there.
@@nguyentri6651 cs2
you missed the ending
it is a spyware but thats not the most dangerous thing about it if someone gets control of vanguard ( the anticheat ) because its always on they can nuke every pc that has it or because its in the kernel level they can do a lot worse things also if i remember correctly LoL also started using vanguard so not only valorant players but LoL players are also in danger
it is actually not as hard to hack into riot than the other big companies riot's cyber security team is shit even you can do it i have a ex-riot dev friend thats a cyber security expert now and he was saying the same as me he got his job in riot by hacking into Tr LoL servers vanguard is not only a spyware but can be much worse idk how safe they are rn but the websites are s***
@@TrueHalo the thing is vanguard is not the only ac thats's kernel level. Theres Face it, Battleye, EAC, Ricochet. Sadly thats the only way to fight cheaters now, to give games full access to your computer.
@@jellibean7729vanguard is the only one that has to run whether or not the game is running
@@jellibean7729 like i stated and the other guy said its the only one that is always running all of the ones you said and the other games use start with the game and shut down with the game also most of them are not chinese and if someone even tries to get in they shut it down and make the game unplayable i hope this helps
@@TrueHalo if it helps, you can actually deactivate vanguard but you won’t be able to play any of riot’s game you would have to restart your computer to play again
In the event of a hot conflict you can totally 100000000% expect this software to brick as much hardware as it can on ANY machine it's connected to.
ngl in high elo i see like no e daters just sweats
men dont go on dates
Once I quit vanguard by formating pc, creating a restore system intalling valorant playing then restoring and the account was signed so I played whit no vanguard and guess what the game feelt more fluid I even got a ton of kills it was like if that thing gives you lagg progressively like if all your choises in game and match history counts by who you play agains, I felt that way but who knows right xD
People really think a system driver can be injected into kernel level while running. They are loaded into the kernel while booting when fhe UEFI initializes every other OS driver
You absolutely can dynamically load both device and kernel drivers without a reboot. Device and kernel drivers are not controlled by UEFI, but by the OS. They are completely separate things.
i can remember exploiting Roblox back in the days and got banned in Valorant
7 streak is crazy
Kernel level *anything* has more access to the hardware/network than the owner of the hardware/network btw
Privacy is one thing what people are not aware of is that you also open up your entire system for other nefarious things, You could very well be a worm in a cluster or be exploited for crypto mining and you would never know.
Valorant may not have malicious intentions however we do not know the other parties that are involved or what external party can acquire access to this information.
It wouldn't be the first time and certainty not the last time that this has happen.
People shouldn't just accept this, Yes it has benefits for sure but can also have serious consequences to the point that i may be a legal matter.
Transparency is key and necessary so that people with the know how can validate these software.
Yh, but at the end of the day anything could be exploited. I mean you could just check haveibeenpwned to see if your data has been exposed and quite often you'd find that your data's been breached. Compared to the other 100 ways I could be exploited online, vanguard just isnt anything crazy.
funny thing is its still bypassable
woohoojin talked about this and its not a spyware as he has connections with valorant developers
Discord is also Tencent
if you go to app settings on your computer Valorant is 2To yes
Short answer: yes
it is. the best thing is there are still cheaters in valorant and more than ppl think
7:07 what if the anticheat doesnt start with windows normally, and everytime you wanna play you have to reboot your PC to turn it on..
that way, it doesnt need to run ALL the time
I think he did mention that the technical implementation is such that it access level is high and requires it start at the time of bootup
could definitively work. but it is inconvenient for most users. and supporting a feature like that costs money (paying devs) but doesn't generate money, so they prob wont.
chinese fearmongering is crazyyyyyyy
you dont need kernel level anti-cheat for it to be good
Oh really? Give me an example of a good anti cheat that's not kernel and has a big player base.
yes you do the reason vangard is good is because they block cheats that come on even before the ui for windows launched
You don't need it on 95% of the player base that do not cheat. How about only diamond+ players install Vanguard.
Why the phak are you drinking sideways
To be fair Tencent already has ur data by now if not other companies do
this is live monitoring 24/7
valorants anticheat is shady as fk. people think only dma cheats and capture card cheats are possible which is totally wrong. it's your machine don't give anyone else access to it
Spyware or not better than playing with spin bot every 2 games
Valorant never took 2TB in anyone's system. If you are seeing such screen shot there might be a bug during install and files were extracted multiple times, or they manually pasted files worth that much size into the folder
Also someone from Riot gave the explanation to why vanguard runs all the time. So when you report a player in game, there has to be enough reports for the anti cheat to check the system. Then if the player getting reported isn't online at that time and gets reported after, his PC still gets scanned for cheats. If the anticheat closed with the game, it would not be able to scan the pc for cheats. and in those cases the cheaters; pc would not get scanned and they would escape a ban.
i would run a Tencent app and not a US CIA app honestly
tencent owns parts of all these pc applications you guys own btw
steam aberta em segundo plano literalmente a todo momento
Ohne trying not to yap challenge impossible💀
by the chinese law tencent need to send all theire data to the goverment
Am I the only one that would rather give their data to China instead of my home country? China cant do shit, while "your" country technically could do what they want
_"What is Chna gonna do with it [his data]?"_
- That's something we'll never know, but I think even ohneopixel would find the idea of other people looking at logs of everything he does on his computer (without approval), deeply discomforting. I know I would.
Plus this isn't advertising data like what Google and Meta are known for collecting, this is far more. Potentially everything you send and revieice on your PC, everything you do, who you are, how you align, personal stuff, etc. Wouldn't surprise me if Vanguard could also act as a secret two-way connection.
So because this isn't advertisement data, it makes you wonder what could motivate them so much in collecting this data to the point of building it into a video game anticheat? That by itself should be concerning.
Does tiktok do the same thing or do it worse?
@@jeanepessoa4327 tiktok is worse because it gives access to the data on any unlocked device that is connected to your wifi, vanguard only collects data on the machine where it is installed
@@jeanepessoa4327worse 100%
yes your data being collected is a bad thing, and we should all take steps to stop giving away our data. but tencent google meta and all other companies are essentially the same. they sell data to other companies, and they cooperate with their governments (in the us the patriot act comes to mind). they're all motivated by money, and only money. tencent is not moral, but neither is google or meta.
bro i played valorant once right, terrible game. uninstalled it but i still find files for it
who gives
the only info they can steal is for ads and i have adblock so idc
and League is gonna have Vanguard too now
Important infos.
1 - Tencent for better or for worse owns pretty much a bit of everything even outside of videogames
2 - Tencent owns majority of Riot Games for years now this isnt something new for them to do
3 - Although Vanguard was advertised with Valorant's release its main purpose eventually was to become League of Legends's anticheat since League is way way way way bigger than Valorant or any other game for that matter
4 - Vanguard is easy to break/disable and although not a Valo player my self as far as i know a large majority of players Diamond and above do cheat one way or another for atleast 2 years now.
5 - as i said Vanguards main purpose eventually was to be League's anti-cheat but the way League works makes it useless since in League you can catch someone cheating without any anti-cheat extremely easily
If you are going to be fearfull of Vanguard be because Riot developed it when they didnt and dont need to catch cheaters but still chose to knowing that this situation would arise.
probably is chinese spyware i literally had to watch a tutorial on youtube to uninstall riot games and everything mfs had a latch onto my storage
i rather play on spyware game rather than play on CS go with a lot of cheater you can't even enjoy
Might be a dumb question but if you delete vanguard does it fully get rid of it?
I think you have to use CCleaner and REVO uninstaller along some other tools to get rid of all the hidden files and registry keys
Even if it’s spyware it’s still better than whatever the fuck Valve are doing with their trash ass VAC system 😭 🙏
if you dont mind spyware then just play faceit...
@@sw-gz9ps faceit isn't a fix valve is a Billion dollar company and they've killed CS2 already, stop dick riding a company that does not love you.
all these paranoid people out here thinking oh no I'm the most important person in the world, what I do on my computer is edward snowden shit... simple, turn off the anti cheat and restart your pc when you decide to play the game... big deal
@@sw-gz9psoh, so face it is not spy ware ??
@@rxpacman1893 sweet, considering you don't care. can you give me your email, ip, names of all the apps on your computer and your full name please
League of Legends uses Vanguard now aswell since few days... And in League the cheaters never were a big problem. They want data
every 1 in 15 game has a cheater in League, i will give Valve all the access they want just give us a working anti-cheat
I think that Kernel is a choice by the devs at riot seeing how unsuccessful are the other levels, I think tecent mainly influences business decisions and marketing. They mainly want the game to make money
companies in China are forced to share information with the government.
@@Shuffledudeebut riot is not in china, it is owned by a chinese company. That’s a bit different legal side wise
@@kivori3438 It is based in China, legally regardless tencent has to share any data with the government they get.
@@MyyColorsFadednot exactly, since riot is an NA based company thats the government they abide by. Meaning yes, they need to follow the laws of the americans
@@kivori3438 Riot started in North America and is now 100% owned by Tencent. Tencent fully controls the company now, and Tencent is forced/required to send all data to their government.
iirc Riot is the only one that Tencent fully owned YET. unlike Discord they just owned a share.
valorant is 24 Terabite buy my ssd has 516 gb
it's korean malware
7h ago only 500 likes bro fell off 😂
This shit not funny man come on
i would rather do the chinese thing and just show my id and have no anti cheat rather then the kinda sus anti cheat that could possably get hacked and hack me.
yes
Ironically my accounts were all hacked by chinese
me watching this after a loss strk in comp and watching his first time playing val clips 👁👄👁
why cant you just download cheats before booting up game? cheats are different some must use game files, some not. even vanguard cant detect trigger bot. if you smart enough i guess the fact that kernel ac is off can give you smth. for how long cheaters have their acc not banned after one-two games, from 1 day to 48 hours. and still take my whole ass i prefer playing chill and safe without cheaters, then i would have 4 of them every match i played
why his community are so obsessed with valorant?
What people need to remember is, just get another computer dedicated to playing valo. If privacy is important have 2 PCs. One is dedicated to all games while the other is dedicated to valo, faceit, or any other kernel level anticheat
I dont know if bait or not, but a second pc just to play valo is a wast of money in my book
lets say tencent is spying on me. tf are they stealing? what do I have that they want that fucking google also doesnt already know about me? at least the AC works.
they sell the data to advertising firms. allso there are people who are studying or researching stuff on private pc´s and research can be really valuable. worst case you open a work email with sensitive data and comprimise firm secrets.
@@jobro8293 Then u might aswell delete Discord and so on, nearly everything is some what owned by tencent.
@@jobro8293 "work email with sensitive data and compromise secrets" bro wtf are you on you act like the fbi plays valorant or some shit. grow up
How do you think spam callers, spam emails and any other form of spammers know exactly when you move houses, get insurance, or send you advertisements literally the exact moment you do something important in your life?
they leak your nude photos and videos how you like that?
I mean ofc it is but whatdya do
not use it?
@@sfzndoplay cheaterstrike2? kk
@@Bonafidius did I say that?
@@Bonafidius play better game than valulrant? sure
@@tee_swag k at least we don’t have cheaters every game
have my da aa
it seems like my vangard only start when the game start.
2:02 faz o L
kkkkk
is he restarted??
American ppl when something related to China
So you can turn it off if you're not playing it. Then open only when you want to play. That's why Valorant anti-cheat works better than CS2. If you let it work only when playing then it's easy to override or make a way around it.
Valve kinda pisses me off cause of how much slow they are that looks like its just old people working there cs2 is a huge mess and in dota2 i feel like this year they are leaving it to saudi. Both got overtaken by riot Lol and valo for fuck sake Valve do something not just look at it like you're blind.
bro is nonsense paranoid talking about anticheat being spyware, you’re own computer literally running Microsoft as a system, u browsing using google, u read&write this comment using internet on youtube all that it's spyware 😂. they all have your data who cares
Better than Tencent also you don't have heard abou degoogled android?
@@MAXRAY-bw9kvNo it's not, american companies have a much much bigger excuse to spy on y'all than Tencent or the CCP.
@@MAXRAY-bw9kvanything and everything is spying on you. Cookies? Microsoft? Google? Even alternative browsers. All of it is spying on you. Just choose who you want spying on you
youtube doesnt access all your data goofy😊
@@neuronaljunctiondecay5673 you sure? if you use Chrome, google already know all of your search engines and they can even force ads to your liking even on RUclips. If you use Chrome they have the ability to save your credit card, address, location, microphone, and search data. With RUclips they can also know your video preference. Heck they can even determine what you search on google, depending on region they can push certain politics agendas like what happened during the election like what the netflix show Social Dilemma describes. In theory google have more to gain having your data than tencent. Scummy as it is, any search engine using chromium and windows took your data that's why it's hard to use them without creating an account since that's the way they track you.
I refuse any game with kernel level anti-cheat... anti-cheat does not have any business at all to exist at kernel level. It's a security breach that players are inserting in their own computers. Games that have this sort of anti-cheats either they work on the cloud game services and I play there or I just don't play them at all... League of legends by adding this BS into their game It's no longer a game for my computer. But that's also because my computer is not only for gaming, it's where I have personal data, also work and confidential information.... so yes but no thanks :D Also vanguard requires to turn off a feature in bios that I require for work.. it would be a pain to turn it on/off every time I wanted to play a game.... If my computer was just a plain gaming computer and for nothing else and also complete isolated from other computers network wise, I would might give it a thought....
But in the end kernel level anti-cheat does not accomplish nothing, it's still possible to cheat (speaking as a computer engineer and a software developer), all this things does is giving players a false sense of cheat free games, they will still be obliterated in game by cheaters with the difference that now they will just think that the other guy is just better.
Dayum the Chinese having a field day going through my internet history 😂😂😂😂
valorant is pretty much cs for gay people. absolute tragic game
I personally uninstall Vanguard after each session of Valo, then reinstall it when I want to play again.
Just close it and restart uninstalling and reinstalling wastes your time
@@drabstract you can't close it, it still runs, it is a driver what are u talking about
Faceit anti cheat is spyware too xD And it even do more than vanguard without our permission
Duh. Kernel anti cheats are based on previous malwares, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. If valve does not create a kernel anticheat Cs2 is cooked.
yes but vanguard is always running and could THEROTICALLY spy on everything you do (on top of that its owned by china)
Kernel level does little to stop hardware cheats
@@IVEdge Yes it does. Look at Valorant. People got banned for charging their phones on PC while playing as Vanguard thought it was being used for cheats
@@Radioactivepaladin0703 bs
@venturiq3297 They better come up with a solution then.
Make anti cheat in game not on computer please like on Minecraft that would be better
But yet everyone thinks TIKTOK isn’t skyware?
idk why he points out the tos, its been long determined they mean nothing and are not legally enforceable, they are purely just to scare people away from lawsuits. Hes also just straight up incorrect about how it shouldnt need to be running when your system is turned on. Without this its much easier to get around anti cheats, which is why valorant is way more cheat free than any other modern game.
i dont run vanguard , i can still play the game
RUclips vid comment: Explained facts and reason
Ohnepixel Twitch chat: L L L spyware spyware(without research)
yeah but idc give me a game without hackers
Downloaded val played 5 hours deleted and reinstalled cs2 😂
🤪🤪
👍 ok
That TPSC video is so sloppy, there is nothing to suggest that Valorant Vanguard is at all influenced by the Tencent or the CCP, they are developed by an american team. And american data is held in american datacenters.
For people actually thinking its horrible, and that its spyware is actually braindead. You might aswell delete Discord then, because some of it is also owned by tencent.
bro tencent owned riot long before valorant was a thing what the fuck is bro cooking in his mind "tencent bought riot for the vanguard access"???
Valorant lives rent free in CS players minds 😅😅😅😅
first
instantly first here
Every online game that serious about their game integrity used Kernal level anti-cheat... Just stick to single player game if you don't like it, simple
yeah, but there is different functions as well as where that information goes matters. Dont be a tool
@@VitaILetum lmao bruh u use google u gv f about ur useless data?
@@sirgg3847 classic use of whataboutism. I dont agree with everything google does but I know I have better odds using some applications over others. And I know some apps are more intrusive then others. But sure spin it however you want
yeah it is but in the end no one gives a shit
i know right 😂 i swear this exact video is made every year. They even admitted vanguard is intrusive when they first launched it 🤣
Our data is already sold. One more spyware isn't gonna hurt anybody
ohne is german lmao of course he is gonna hate on china not surprised
No views 1 minute, fell off