13. KISS - "God of Thunder" (Alright, Largo! Alive in Maryland 1977 franKENstein Redux)
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- This is the first in a series of classic multi-cam KISS concerts from the '70s that I have been upscaling and re-creating the audio for. My goal is to give these shows near-album-quality audio while maintaining all the nuances of the actual performances. Rather than simply syncing the official live albums to these shows, I have re-created the basic tracks using various isolated tracks from those albums along with other sources, blending them with actual guitar solos, vocals, drum arrangements and other variations that match the original performance.
This show is from Largo, MD and was taped at Capital Center 12/20/1977 on the ALIVE II Tour.
Vocals: Some vocals bits come from the original Largo recording, but since those vocals are very boxy and distorted (even after "clean-up") they are the vast minority used here. Instead, I used Alive II for the majority of the vocals. They have been altered/edited to perfectly match the Largo video so the feel of the original show is more or less maintained. A few songs use other vocal sources like Houston '76, Detroit '76 & Detroit '77 and NYC '77.
Drums: The drum tracks were done using remixed versions of isolated tracks from Alive!, ALIVEII and Lost Alive II. The original Alive II tracks are blended with samples I created of Peter's actual Alive II and Love Gun drums. Many of the cymbals are also augmented with Peter's actual crash cymbals sampled from ALIVE II. By creating these custom samples I was also able to create versions of the non-A2 songs with the "ALIVE II sound". "Firehouse", "Let Me Go, Rock 'n' Roll", "Rock and Roll All Nite" and "Black Diamond" were done using Peter's actual drumming; sometimes from Alive! with alterations made to match the '77 tour versions and sometimes with pieces of other songs on Alive II, edited and rearranged to piece together the song. "Black Diamond", "Let Me Go, Rock 'n' Roll" & and "Firehouse" were done this way. "RARAN" comes mostly from the Lost ALIVE II recording with the arrangement altered to match the Largo version. Peter's drum solo comes from the actual show, with samples blended to better match the sound of the rest of the show.
Bass: A bit of distortion was added to Gene's bass tracks to better simulate his live bass tone. Most of his parts come from either Alive! or ALIVE II with a few exceptions where other (mainly studio) sources were used. His solo before "God of Thunder" is taken directly from the Largo show.
Guitars: Most of the guitars come from Alive II or Lost Alive II. Some of Ace's solos were taken right from the Largo '77 show where he plays different things than on those recordings. His "Shock Me" solo spot comes directly from the Largo show. Some of Paul's guitar tracks come from Alive! and other sources. "Firehouse", "Let Me Go, Rock 'n' Roll" and "Black Diamond" are taken from Alive! (mostly), but with some distortion added.
The video has been upscaled to 1080p using AI software and is a combination of the original video and extra footage from the alternate-angle version so there are lots of new edits and footage not seen in the original. I have adjusted the entire show, shot by shot to my liking. Everyone has a different opinion on what looks best. I have made the best effort not to completely lose all detail in the darker areas and have tried to maintain a good balance between a darker overall look and the original lighting. This show has quite a bit of video noise and horizontal banding in places that can’t be removed without over-darkening.
I have made the pacing between songs closer to what you'd see and hear on an official release, but only dead space removed. I also slowed down "Firehouse" by about 5% because the original performance is ridiculously fast. It isn't really noticeable in context and still gives the song a similar "pep" compared to early, much slower performances.
Again, my goal was to create a version of this great concert that can be better enjoyed with great audio accompanying it. For those who don't know, these old concerts were recorded with direct-from-soundboard audio. The PA mix would be compensating more for something like a voice than for a relatively loud guitar amp or drum set. Thus, we often get a very uneven sound when ONLY the soundboard mix is heard. This also means there is zero room ambience and the only crowd noise heard was the bleed coming through the stage mics creating a very dead-sounding atmosphere. While a video like this is NOT for the purist, a strong argument can be made that what is captured on those videotapes is far from what someone in the audience would have actually heard.
This version is not an attempt to erase or replace the original, but rather to (hopefully) bring new life to it. You have definitely never seen or heard this show quite like this before. It was many months in the making, so I truly hope other fans enjoy it.
Watch the full concert here…
vimeo.com/8800...
I can still remember this concert . I was 16 at the time. and I'm 63 now . Good times and they kicked ass
Lucky man
🎉
Yes I was there I also saw them in 74 75 my number one band in high school
I saw them just a few days later at Birmingham Jefferson Civic Center! I can still remember it like it was yesterday! People throwing Frisbees and rolls of toilet paper across the arena before the show. A band called Piper opened with a little known singer named Billy Squier. The faint smell (sometimes not so faint) of sweet leaf in the air! No Jumbo screens! No cell phones! Just everyone going nuts and celebrating being in the presence of great rock and roll!
I went to that concert at the Capital Center. Lol I was 12… now 59
This was the Destroyer tour if I’m not mistaken. Saw it in Ft. Worth.
The real KISS.
All the pieces fit together perfectly. Always best to keep the original group together , if possible. Classic KISS was the best live act of the 70's period.
This is the best Live version I've ever heard of this song. The tempo is just right. Gene doesn't sound tired and breathless. Ace is on cue and his tone is perfect and the drum solo was perfectly climaxed. 👍🏼
The last hurrah for KISS, amazing. Cheers!
That was a treat. Clean and clear. Just as I remember it.
Funny, I remember my kiss concerts to be dirty & fuzzy😂 You know, sex & drugs & rock n roll🤘🎸
What great quality video this is...I'd love to have the entire show in this quality.
Thanks. The entire show is posted as a playlist. YT blocks it when it is a single video for some reason.
You can also watch it here…
vimeo.com/880027547
Or download it here…
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lnt9Io2FXynoPwAuFr0lvcKzdDOFmf8n
@@franKENstein620 I've gots lots of MTV original broadcasts I'd be glad to share if you interested...just trying to give back to the community 😎
@@franKENstein620Thank you!!! How did you get this? I always wanted to go to this tour, but I was only 12. Even when I was 13 or 14, my dad wouldn’t let me see them.
How did you get this video, and such amazing quality? I’ve never heard of this video before
@@davidbrucemusicvideo this show has circulated for many years with much poorer quality. It was even one of the bonus discs for the KISSology 1 set (with a few songs missing). There are several versions posted here on RUclips, but the original audio is very poor quality. I have done a lot of work on it and completely “recreated” the audio. Please read the video description for details about what all I did to make this version.
@@franKENstein620 oh wow, really?! I used to have the guitar case DVD set, but I don’t remember this for some reason. Maybe because this is in much better quality…
Oh wow! My very first concert I ever went to! I was in the 5th grade at the time. Just incredible to see this! Thank you!
So cool to see this! I saw KISS the day Elvis died in San Francisco.
In 5 days it will have been the 47 year anniversary of that day. I was 14 years old then. First concert of many. I already had my first electric guitar and was practicing hard to get good enough to play in a band. By 1980 I was in a band that got to test the new Yamaha sound system for Steel Breeze.
Those were the good ol' days 🤘
You do great work!! Hopefully the guys in Kiss see these and share them with the masses. The ABC In Concert you enhanced is amazing. Thanks for giving these the "Kiss Alive treatment" ...the upgrade that they deserve. I`ve started a few of these myself but yours are better.
The first time i went to a kiss concert was a year after this in Jan '78 in Detroit at Olympia Stadium. I was 12!!!! I went with my older brother and cousin. They were both 17 and a bad influence on me that night, and many others 😂
Kiss the best band ever… they reminded you of that before every show. YOU WANTED THE BEST YOU GOT THE BEST.. K I S S !
Was too young to see them but was lucky to get to see the reunion tour at Madison Square Garden it was everything I imagined.
I was 20 years old I drove my 70 Super Sport Chevelle to the Capitol Centre 1977 KISS concert, It was so Cool I got the park next to another blue white stripes 70 SS just like mine, Got to see the Original Band for the fourth time, And it was all over such a great show there was another 70 SS Chevelle beside mine same color blue with white stripes from Southern Maryland Woodland Beach, It was a Street Freak, It sat up real high all the way around, The three of us talked about the concert and how we couldn't wait to go to the next one.
Te quiero felicitar por este gran trabajo que hiciste junto con el otro que subiste de winterland, la verdad te quedaron excelentes, la calidad del video que lucen muy bien, mas el audio, esas combinaciones de diferentes conciertos, se oye increible, con una gran calidad, mis respetos, gracias por hacer esto🤜🤛🤘
Ace’s tone is immaculate.🔥
Freaking AWESOME!!!!...THE DEMON
Sounds immense!
🤘🏼🌩🐉🔥🩸⚡️🎸
⚠️🥁🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵
The old Capital Center. I got lucky and met the band at the Sheraton in New Carrollton MD.
As a kid in the 70s, I LOVED KISS. I thought Peter was SUCH a great drummer. Then, in my teens, I came across this dude named Neal Peart.
Right????? 🙌🏼
As most of us did as well. Peter Criss will only be remembered as being part of the original band and Beth.
Peter criss was bad ass on the drums incredible drummer
Killer!
That sounds like a lot of work, but the results are outstanding! Five stars!
Holy shit my friend! What an amazing and rockin’ edit you’ve created. Obviously you’ve got some serious skills and I love the result! Your vids take me back in time and it’s almost like time stood still. It’s sooo much better than everything else we used to watch and listen to. Definitely subscribed!
Thanks!
This is what made me want to be a rock star. Hottest Band in the World!!!
En el año 77 y ya su show era impresionante/ entre el cromo y el metal y sus indumentarias 🤟🤟🤟
Love that stage
Criss was a pretty cool drummer!!!!!!!
Out. Standing.
Unless you were present, its hard to describe how magnificent the Demon character was. It was seriously a complete gamechanger for the evolution of future musicians. Its the greatest rock and roll character if all time at its peak in my opinion. Unfortunately Gene started talking publicly not long after this, and the legacy gets diminished. It has been slowly eroded ever since
I was at the first show, the night before. AC/DC opened that show.
The uptempo version is so suoerior than the later years slowed down performances
I remember seeing them in savannah in the 70s
Well done!
Seen them when I was 16 I'm Omaha" kick ass show
I was there…
Awesome!
It's behind you!!!
Oh no it isn't!!!!
OH YES IT IS!!!!
How many fans lost an eye to Peter throwing sticks at them in the dark over the years? This is KISS showing why they were the greatest show on Earth for an entire generation.
WOW
I like seeing gene spit blood from the front angle it wasn't like that in the original
Check out the description. There is an “alternate edit” version. I combined the regular version with that one to re-edit the whole show. The first few songs only have a few shots and there are no different angles on the encores but the rest of the show has tons of changes from the original. Not just new footage but shots are swapped and more.
You fucking rule dude.!!! KISS needs to hire u for upcoming re re re leasing's
Gene Simmons made it cool to date the bass player. 👏😐
🤘👹🤘
And it messes with yourtiming an your ability to create before it happens. Kind of picture things in your mind before it happens. And I know practicing helped and he didn't do a lot of it towards the end. should have been doing it every chance he got.
What kind of bass guitar effect did Gene use in the part (1:29) where he would command the left platform to levitate him and, from there, he would make fireballs appear from the stage floor (thanks to the help of the pyrotechnics crew)?
Aside from the distortion and delay I believe it is an Eventide H910 Harmoniser effect. Probably the same thing he uses on his voice in the last verse of the song.
@@franKENstein620 Close - but it only almost sounds like Gene is playing a pipe organ.
That’s what it does. It emulates the sound in one or more different pitches and in this case it makes the bass sound like a pipe organ (sort of). If you watch the 3-2-1 contact show from ‘79 you’ll see the sound man demonstrating it for the host. Gene uses it in the 3rd verse for his “demon” voice as well.
I left a long comment on your Winterland concert video, but I'll say it again.... Your work is absolutely fantastic!!. All the years I've watched the old DVDs of concert footage, never before have I thoroughly enjoyed watching ( AND HEARING ) these shows. Like I mentioned in my other comments, I would love to know how you "isolate" these tracks. Is it something similar to the Izotope Ozone software ??
There are a handful of different programs that do a decent job of separating different instruments a I use 3 or 4 depending on what I am trying to get since some do a better job with different instruments. None of them are anywhere near as good as what Peter Jackson used for the Beatles “Get Back” documentary though do it takes some creative ideas to get decent results. Glad you like the work I’ve done. 👍🏻
Peter, Ace, Paul & Gene made the *Must see* - Show that Time! Losin' Peter & Ace made *PISS* out of KISS .... 😮
I don't think it was so much Peter losing the ability to play drums I mean that's ingrained in you when you start playing as a child you never lose it it's just the physicality of it and Peter lost his endurance and the ability to give it all he had every night like he did from 73 through 77. I mean partying doing drugs living that lifestyle never taken care of his body that much anymd he lost a lot of that muscle mass he had. you look at him in 75 he was a beast behind the drum set he look like a middle linebacker and then you look at him right there you can tell he's lost some of muscle mass and his and his ability and creativity was suffering because of that. It happened to me I was in great shape when I was younger and I was playing in bands and nothing could stop me then I got into the drugs and I lost the strength my endurance and the muscle mass. And it affected my drumming incredibly it doesn't mean I just completely forgot everything and just became a horrible drummer it was simply just taking care of myself but once I got off the drugs and started to practice all the time I got all of it back and I'm better than I ever was. And it sucks that Peter's been dealing with arthritis since the reunion tours I think if he hadn't had that he would be still be playing professionally today.i know he's still plays that beautiful silver dw kit he's got in his house and I've seen some of those drum Solos but you can tell with his hands he's struggling and I know it hurts because of the arthritis. But hey he's giving it a try and that's all that matters it's still fun as hell watching him.
Hey..can you post a link for a download?
This is amazing
vimeo.com/880027547
uncompressed video and CD verions here...
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lnt9Io2FXynoPwAuFr0lvcKzdDOFmf8n?usp=drive_link
Many many thanks, u are the real god of thunder