Yes. Nobody knows what type of work ethic person has. Simmons James comparison is actually ok. If Simmons would like basketball, he could have been James level player!
I dont agree at all with the Norman Powell/Donovan Mitchell. I think that's actually a great comparison for the expectations of Mitchell coming out. Also their size and playstyles are very similar. No one expected Mitchell to be a legitimate star coming out of Louisville
the Donovan Mitchell-Norman Powell comparison really wasn’t crazy at all at the time and i’m not sure why you’re so perplexed by it. Powell was raw offensively but was looked at for his defensive potential as a smaller SG which is exactly what Mitchell was coming out of college. Nobody expected him to hit the ground running the way he did.
To be fair. The Donovan Mitchell comparison isn’t that far off. I get the “at this point Powell was a scrub” point. But looking at it now there games are pretty similar. One is just way better
No one expect mitchell to come in and be the immediate on ball presence he was as a rookie as well as be a constant pull up threat from deep. His game was thought to be more catch, shoot and cut with maybe some more skills coming later but he was WAY ahead of schedule with his development.
Idk the Norman Powell - Donovan Mitchell comparison makes a lot of sense to me. Obviously Donovan became a lot better but there's several similarities to be made there
I’d say the Ben Simmons / Lebron comparison at the time makes sense (size, skill, passing). I’d say the Norman Powell comp to Donavan Mitchell is actually pretty good as well
The Ben Simmons one makes total sense, he’s a 6’9” floor general with incredible athleticism and defense. He literally just didn’t have the mental strength or drive to become near the player he should have.
In all fairmess some of these comparisons are actually somewhat accurate if you consider the way the players play, its just that one of the 2 players in the comparison was much much better at those things. Bargnani did play like a poor man's Dirk and Dame has the same playstyle as Bayless a million times better. It's similar to how people now say that Alperen Sengun plays like Jokic, their levels are not even comparable but the styles are
It's crazy how some players shift their playstyles completely once in the league. Smart being an offensive player to being defense first and KAT the opposite
The wade marcus smart one really isn't bad at all. They have VERY similar physical tools (6'4" with a very plus wingspan), had similar jumpshots coming into the league, and both had a mix of scoring and distribution coming out of college. Wade just happened to be maybe a top 3 athlete ever in the nba at the guard position when he came in the league, and Marcus smart was not. However they didn't say that smart would be as good as wade, just that they profiled similarly. It's really not a crazy comparison.
to be fair I do think Bargnani compares quite well to Dirk if you account for playstyle at the time. His overall skill level just could not match that of Dirks
Unpopular opinion: An 18/8/8, 7 ft, DPOY candidate, PG quality handle, Lebronesque athlecticism rookie is indeed a generational talent. He's just not a guard but it doesnt really matter since he's mentally broken now
I’ve said this for awhile and it goes for all major sports leagues. Some people mock scout and mock draft, and some people actually scout and actually draft.
Some stereotypes are rooted so deep, you get surprised when a comparison makes sense. I think it was Bill Simmons that recently compared Lauri Markkanen to Tom Chambers. That makes sense. But really? Comparison to an American player? Isnt there some shooting bigs from europe more like him? Isnt that some sort of a rule?
Ah Eddie Curry, I remember how worried I was when he was traded that he’d take that step towards being the next Shaq and instead he took 2 steps back. Worse yet the Bulls actually drafted the perfect replacement for him with one of the picks from the trade in Aldridge but immediately traded down for the 4th pick and got Tyrus Thomas aka the next Stromile Swift 🤦♂️ At least they got a great defensive Center with the other pick in Joakim Noah the following year.
The Washington Wizards had the chance to pick such stars as Pau Gasol, Joe Johnson and Tyson Chandler in the 2001 NBA Draft, but picking Kwame Brown was the Wizards' biggest mistake.
i have to say some of these comparisons (like mitchell or simmons) are EXCELLENT.... they are LITERALLY those exact players except for the aptitude or end result, but in terms of WHAT GAME THEY PLAY, those were EXTREMELY accurate i think the creator of this video didn't understand this conceptually... it doesn't mean you have the same career, it means your game is like this player's game or your athletic attributes are similar, not that you end up in the same exact career path
I don't put much stock in draft comparisons. Each player is different and unique. Draft comparisons are unfair and usually for casual fans as a quick reference point for game style. Good video though
I mean jabari was going to be amazing I remember some people even saying he should be drafted before wiggins. The injuries ruined his career nothing else
I love Andy Hoops so much. This guy and jimmyhighroller are the top 2 NBA contents in youtube. I watch other guys too, but basketball youtube won't be basketball youtube without these two guys.
The Adam Morrison-Larry Bird comparison is definitely a whack for sure. I mean Morrison was really good in college but unfortunately he couldn't able to translate that into the NBA and became a bust.
Morrison would have had a solid career if he didn't have the ACL injury & the Type 1 Diabetes to deal with. That being said, comparing anyone to a GOAT level player is just insane.
I remember all the hype with Simmons and people calling him the “Prince” since LBJ is the “King”. ESPN, Fox, etc. were covering him for everything. The rest is history.
The Donovan Mitchell Norman Powell comparison makes sense to me. Clearly Mitchell is the better player but dribbling style, size and athleticism are all similar. That was a great comparison actually.
The Siakam/Luc comparison feels like how tv analysts typically compare compare white players to other white players. Luka could be a great PG and lead the league into assists. He’d only be compared to John Stockton and never Magic Johnson. It’s hilarious and sad at the same time.
Different kind of player comp, but during the ‘06 draft Dick Vitale said that the Celtics made a mistake by drafting Rajon Rondo instead of UConn’s Marcus Williams. Jay Bilas doubled-down in agreement, as Williams was considered to be the better pure PG who could pass and run and offense better 😭
Saying Ben Simmons as a “taller Jason Kidd” is actually pretty on point imo…both really good at D, not much of scorers, excellent passers, and high Basketball IQ, the playstyles are almost identical
The scouting reports go by what is seen at the time of the certain player before they hit the league, of course looking back in the present most of these are horrendous comparisons. But back then maybe they were not.
But when the scout comapre are it to someone who’s not that good and they become a better player, the scout still get shit on. It’s a lose lose for them. It’s hard to predict how a player will do.
I can actually kinda see the Norman Powell/Mitchell comp. They do play similar, Mitchell is just way better and more complete. They have similar bounce and ability to step into a J.
I remember an NBA draft night where Jalen Rose is comparing White player prospect to a White current or former NBA player, Then Black Player prospect to a current or former Black NBA player lol
More than half of these comparisons actually make sense during their respective time. It is just unfair that you expect scouts to be on point. They aren't psychics.
I must have been sleeping during Marcus Smart college career because I've NEVER heard him compared to D.Wade. He never had that level of athleticism or ball handling.
Dame might've took that personal when he go compared to the person he lost to in highschool after him hitting an insane halfcourt shot and receiving a technical foul then Bayless hits the technical free throw to win the game.
IMO, comparing Simmons to LeBron was not that absurd if you compare the way they were when they entered the league. LeBron was a somewhat below average shooter in 2003 and developed his jumper over the years, eliminating his main weakness. If Simmons had also developed a jumpshot, he'd still be compared to LeBron today. To be fair to the scout, the lack of willingness or ability to improve was probably very difficult if not impossible to spot before the draft.
karl in college was a good defender but he changed in the nba edit: we all know draft comparison are always going to change in the nba but everyone evolves overtime
Just read Paul Reed's scout in nbadraf:he is compared to Chris Wood.Well, mavs want PR & are leaving CWood behind.That's how different these players are.
You realize that Mason Plumlee never became as good as Yi Jianlins best NBA year right? Yi didn't flame out of the NBA, he just needed to become a superstar to justify playing in America because China taking all his money. Bargs and Dirk is a spot-on comp, but Darko, played nothing like them, he was always more of a rugged enforcer type evidenced by his post-basketball MMA career. Giannis and Batum was a great comp too.
Yall are saying A player being compared to B player is ridiculous because they did not reach the production of the player they're compared to / exceeded them completely, but comparisons can be more like their playstyle and not necessarily the production? Think about it
Guys, remember that comparisons aren't always comparing talent and skill level. They compare playstyles
Yes. Nobody knows what type of work ethic person has. Simmons James comparison is actually ok. If Simmons would like basketball, he could have been James level player!
Well itc they have really bottled it with Bogut & KAT comparison for sure! 😂
@@ibarbooLike for real.. Who wore blinders during that workout drill?? And I like Bogut by the way since he played for Atlanta (Hawks fan here)..
ty for commenting, i agree that its something to keep in mind
ok, i just wrote a comment but i should have read other comments first because yours already says what i typed a whole paragraph about
I dont agree at all with the Norman Powell/Donovan Mitchell. I think that's actually a great comparison for the expectations of Mitchell coming out. Also their size and playstyles are very similar. No one expected Mitchell to be a legitimate star coming out of Louisville
Agree with this take. Norman Powells actually a bucket too. I like his game
That’s the beauty of the Draft. It’s literally like playing lotto lol
Yes I did lol. As a jazz fan. And then my thoughts were confirmed after attending his first summer league game
Yea he was getting called an athletic Eric Gordon as well , thats what i thought he would be , but he’s even better than that
Ya they have a similar play style. Just Mitchell is much better.
the Donovan Mitchell-Norman Powell comparison really wasn’t crazy at all at the time and i’m not sure why you’re so perplexed by it. Powell was raw offensively but was looked at for his defensive potential as a smaller SG which is exactly what Mitchell was coming out of college. Nobody expected him to hit the ground running the way he did.
Norman Powell is good lmao
I came here to say this
After DeShawn Stevenson, I guarantee you that no prospect will *EVER* be compared to Michael Jordan again!
There's now people comparing Butler and Edwards to MJ
@@Angel_559_I think he meant before they started playing, no one was comparing Jimmy or Ant to MJ before they were drafted
To be fair. The Donovan Mitchell comparison isn’t that far off. I get the “at this point Powell was a scrub” point. But looking at it now there games are pretty similar. One is just way better
No one expect mitchell to come in and be the immediate on ball presence he was as a rookie as well as be a constant pull up threat from deep. His game was thought to be more catch, shoot and cut with maybe some more skills coming later but he was WAY ahead of schedule with his development.
Love these type of videos. It’s my favourite type of videos for sure. Love draft comparisons!
Idk the Norman Powell - Donovan Mitchell comparison makes a lot of sense to me. Obviously Donovan became a lot better but there's several similarities to be made there
I’d say the Ben Simmons / Lebron comparison at the time makes sense (size, skill, passing). I’d say the Norman Powell comp to Donavan Mitchell is actually pretty good as well
The Ben Simmons one makes total sense, he’s a 6’9” floor general with incredible athleticism and defense. He literally just didn’t have the mental strength or drive to become near the player he should have.
That's why I loved the Lamar Odom comp.
And Dono didn't have too much expectations on draft night bro even got traded immediately lol
In all fairmess some of these comparisons are actually somewhat accurate if you consider the way the players play, its just that one of the 2 players in the comparison was much much better at those things.
Bargnani did play like a poor man's Dirk and Dame has the same playstyle as Bayless a million times better.
It's similar to how people now say that Alperen Sengun plays like Jokic, their levels are not even comparable but the styles are
In hindsight they’re terrible but at the time most of them were spot on
It's crazy how some players shift their playstyles completely once in the league. Smart being an offensive player to being defense first and KAT the opposite
The wade marcus smart one really isn't bad at all. They have VERY similar physical tools (6'4" with a very plus wingspan), had similar jumpshots coming into the league, and both had a mix of scoring and distribution coming out of college. Wade just happened to be maybe a top 3 athlete ever in the nba at the guard position when he came in the league, and Marcus smart was not. However they didn't say that smart would be as good as wade, just that they profiled similarly. It's really not a crazy comparison.
Yi Jianlian was a tall wing player who could drive a bit. Mason Plumlee is a center. Not sure how they can make that comp…
Both are REALLY pale on an NBA court but besides that...nothing😅
Mason is actually a pretty skilled player, but comparing him to a Wing is wild.
Great video , please do more relevant comparisons Andy in the future !!!!!
to be fair I do think Bargnani compares quite well to Dirk if you account for playstyle at the time. His overall skill level just could not match that of Dirks
Don and Norman isn’t a bad comp they have a similar offensive style
Dwade’s mother had to be HIGH when she named him
Why ?
@@MrTrueCaller619look how dwades first name is spelled
@@GhostHunterB15dwyane
Litreally spelt D wayne 🤣😂
He's named after his dad though...
Unpopular opinion: An 18/8/8, 7 ft, DPOY candidate, PG quality handle, Lebronesque athlecticism rookie is indeed a generational talent. He's just not a guard but it doesnt really matter since he's mentally broken now
I remember Towns being a great defensive player coming out of college. Idk how he turned into a stretch 4 defensive liability
He was only a good shot blocker, and was heavily carried by Cauley-Stein with interior defense
@@twoface9959 he’s not even a good shot blocker anymore
@@taj3618 That’s why I said was
@@twoface9959bum
He’s lazy. Let’s be honest.
I’ve said this for awhile and it goes for all major sports leagues.
Some people mock scout and mock draft, and some people actually scout and actually draft.
Ben Simmons WEAK MINDSET 😅😂😅😂😅😂
Draft comparisons are like the “shades of” you get when you make a player on 2K
Great video Andy! These are the types of videos we’re looking for
Some stereotypes are rooted so deep, you get surprised when a comparison makes sense.
I think it was Bill Simmons that recently compared Lauri Markkanen to Tom Chambers.
That makes sense. But really? Comparison to an American player? Isnt there some shooting bigs from europe more like him? Isnt that some sort of a rule?
Ah Eddie Curry, I remember how worried I was when he was traded that he’d take that step towards being the next Shaq and instead he took 2 steps back.
Worse yet the Bulls actually drafted the perfect replacement for him with one of the picks from the trade in Aldridge but immediately traded down for the 4th pick and got Tyrus Thomas aka the next Stromile Swift 🤦♂️
At least they got a great defensive Center with the other pick in Joakim Noah the following year.
The Washington Wizards had the chance to pick such stars as Pau Gasol, Joe Johnson and Tyson Chandler in the 2001 NBA Draft, but picking Kwame Brown was the Wizards' biggest mistake.
I thought Pau was going to the Wizards, at the time I thought he was the best choice at #1 for any team.
But kwame brown is doing better in life than basketball like calling out the media that always tearing him down
Yes he was.. They passed up on all those guys.. SMH!!
Tyson may not have made that much more of a difference because it took him a minute to find his footing in the league.
@@dorioncarter5829 Talking about basketball though NOT life. Stay focused with the conversation.
RJ Barrett= Maple Mamba 😂😂😂
Lmao bogut and KAT couldn’t have more different offensive games
In defence of DeShawn, at least he got picked 23rd, the mj number
i have to say some of these comparisons (like mitchell or simmons) are EXCELLENT.... they are LITERALLY those exact players except for the aptitude or end result, but in terms of WHAT GAME THEY PLAY, those were EXTREMELY accurate
i think the creator of this video didn't understand this conceptually...
it doesn't mean you have the same career, it means your game is like this player's game or your athletic attributes are similar, not that you end up in the same exact career path
Great video, please do with relevant comparisons!
I don't put much stock in draft comparisons. Each player is different and unique. Draft comparisons are unfair and usually for casual fans as a quick reference point for game style. Good video though
Great video. These draft comparisons are a waste of time. I remember people compare Jabari Parker to Carmelo Anthony.
Jabari was averaging 20 a game his sophomore year before he tore his ACL😪
Granted, excellent scoring forward of similar size and no defense. Kind of accurate xD
I mean jabari was going to be amazing I remember some people even saying he should be drafted before wiggins. The injuries ruined his career nothing else
Yeah this was a bad example 😂
I mean that one to be fair was somewhat accurate before his ACL injury. Those things are a kiss of death for NBA players apparently
Thanks for the vids andy love every vid keeps me entertained
I love Andy Hoops so much. This guy and jimmyhighroller are the top 2 NBA contents in youtube. I watch other guys too, but basketball youtube won't be basketball youtube without these two guys.
A player can have certain comparisons, but depending team needs, coaching style, etc. can shift the turnout. Nice video.
Dante Exum was supposed to be the next *Kobe Bryant* 😬 yikes
The Adam Morrison-Larry Bird comparison is definitely a whack for sure. I mean Morrison was really good in college but unfortunately he couldn't able to translate that into the NBA and became a bust.
magic johnson tweet ass comment 😭
His midrange j is deadly. maybe his medical condition and poor hygiene habit affect his development 😂
Morrison would have had a solid career if he didn't have the ACL injury & the Type 1 Diabetes to deal with.
That being said, comparing anyone to a GOAT level player is just insane.
If we’re being honest, Adam Morrison and Jay Cutler are the best diabetic athletes of all time.
It honestly feels like KAT was too slow to be a forward and too soft to be a center.
That's the perfect way to put it.
KAT - better outside offensive skills that could not POST UP smaller players.
BOGUT - real "BIG MEN". Not a soft delusional _i changed the game_ guy.
U always make great videos but this might be a top 10 Andy video
Let’s goo and these scouts are insane!!
That siakam mbah moute comparison was accurate. They are very similar.
I think Greg Oden was compared to Bill Russell when he got drafted.
I remember all the hype with Simmons and people calling him the “Prince” since LBJ is the “King”. ESPN, Fox, etc. were covering him for everything. The rest is history.
A lot of these are just crazy in hindsight but at the time they were spot on
The Donovan Mitchell Norman Powell comparison makes sense to me. Clearly Mitchell is the better player but dribbling style, size and athleticism are all similar. That was a great comparison actually.
This video compares their career trajectories which misses out on the point of draft comparisons, which look at playstyle and other intangibles.
Babe wake up. Andy just posted.
I think the Ben Simmons - Lebron comparison was pretty accurate; similar playstyle just worse and then fell off.
Speaking of MJ, can you make a video on Harold Miner? Or I missed it? :)
Draft comparisons are communicating upside potential and play style. They are rarely achievable.
Someone told me that Patrick Beverly was gonna be the next Magic Johnson and/or next Gary Payton in there primes 💀
Andrew Wiggins = MAPLE JORDAN
it sucks to have the physical tools of ben simmons and being useless in the league
The Towns comparison is crazy. Even in college with Towns playing the more traditional center role he was nothing like Bogut.
The Siakam/Luc comparison feels like how tv analysts typically compare compare white players to other white players. Luka could be a great PG and lead the league into assists. He’d only be compared to John Stockton and never Magic Johnson.
It’s hilarious and sad at the same time.
Ben mclemore was compared to ray allen when he was drafted 10 years ago now he isnt even in the nba
The Italian Dirk Nowitzki is what they said Bargnani was
Different kind of player comp, but during the ‘06 draft Dick Vitale said that the Celtics made a mistake by drafting Rajon Rondo instead of UConn’s Marcus Williams. Jay Bilas doubled-down in agreement, as Williams was considered to be the better pure PG who could pass and run and offense better 😭
I remember Harold Miner being called, "Baby Jordan" as he was being drafted by Miami
Saying Ben Simmons as a “taller Jason Kidd” is actually pretty on point imo…both really good at D, not much of scorers, excellent passers, and high Basketball IQ, the playstyles are almost identical
The scouting reports go by what is seen at the time of the certain player before they hit the league, of course looking back in the present most of these are horrendous comparisons. But back then maybe they were not.
Jaylen Brown your next video Andy Hoops 🙏🙏🙏
Kevon Looney was compared to Paul George. Today we know he is a big steal, but it is ridiculus to think peaple thought he is gonna be like paul george
Bro... Khawai at the start with his shirt off is a tank
EY!!! Get my man's name right!! It's pronounced Luke Em-bah Ah-MOOtay 🤣😤
But when the scout comapre are it to someone who’s not that good and they become a better player, the scout still get shit on. It’s a lose lose for them. It’s hard to predict how a player will do.
Since free agency started, can you do a video about every NBA teams best and worst free agent signings
Maybe not a direct comparison to anybody, but calling Guerschon Yabusele a "LeBron stopper" is fucking great.
BAH AH MOO-TAY
That's the pronunciation of Mbah A Moute, Andy.
Morrison even shoots like Larry Bird lol
we got actual hornets fans mad about not drafting scoot saying brandon miller is kevin knox
Tbh Mike prolly made that last guy apologize 😂
Every draft is a once in a lifetime player. And I've been watching since 70's. Modern day Haiti.
@ 3:05
Who tf is "Luc MAHA MOOT"???
It's Luc Mbah (em-bah) A Moute (moo-teh)
Dude just butchered the guy's name. 😆
Kwame needed 4 years of college.
Andy! If its not a sad subject, you should always be using Basic Implosion!
They compare everybody to Dwayne wade
Steph curry with 40" vertical😂
I can actually kinda see the Norman Powell/Mitchell comp. They do play similar, Mitchell is just way better and more complete. They have similar bounce and ability to step into a J.
I remember an NBA draft night where Jalen Rose is comparing White player prospect to a White current or former NBA player, Then Black Player prospect to a current or former Black NBA player lol
More than half of these comparisons actually make sense during their respective time. It is just unfair that you expect scouts to be on point. They aren't psychics.
I must have been sleeping during Marcus Smart college career because I've NEVER heard him compared to D.Wade. He never had that level of athleticism or ball handling.
Michael Jordan said Gilbert Arenas was compared to Randy Brown, I can't put much thought into who MJ thinks would be a good player.
Dame might've took that personal when he go compared to the person he lost to in highschool after him hitting an insane halfcourt shot and receiving a technical foul then Bayless hits the technical free throw to win the game.
Ben Simmons compared to LeBron is the biggest joke of nba history ☠️☠️
Cmon andy u know this, going to the draft,simmons and james comparisons is fine
IMO, comparing Simmons to LeBron was not that absurd if you compare the way they were when they entered the league. LeBron was a somewhat below average shooter in 2003 and developed his jumper over the years, eliminating his main weakness. If Simmons had also developed a jumpshot, he'd still be compared to LeBron today. To be fair to the scout, the lack of willingness or ability to improve was probably very difficult if not impossible to spot before the draft.
From the thumbnail I thought it was going to be dumbest haircuts.
karl in college was a good defender but he changed in the nba
edit: we all know draft comparison are always going to change in the nba but everyone evolves overtime
Just read Paul Reed's scout in nbadraf:he is compared to Chris Wood.Well, mavs want PR & are leaving CWood behind.That's how different these players are.
Calling Bogut “great” is a mega stretch. He was above average at best and a sub par number 1 pick historically
You realize that Mason Plumlee never became as good as Yi Jianlins best NBA year right? Yi didn't flame out of the NBA, he just needed to become a superstar to justify playing in America because China taking all his money.
Bargs and Dirk is a spot-on comp, but Darko, played nothing like them, he was always more of a rugged enforcer type evidenced by his post-basketball MMA career.
Giannis and Batum was a great comp too.
imagine a Wilt Chamberlain comparason 💀, would've been more absurd than the MJ one
Yall are saying A player being compared to B player is ridiculous because they did not reach the production of the player they're compared to / exceeded them completely, but comparisons can be more like their playstyle and not necessarily the production? Think about it
Jordan Mickey and word dominating could never be used in same sentence, dude is like ok centar and midd level Euroleague team
This shows that teams should have workout with those players rather than trusting this comparison lol
We need a video on Marcus Smart and KP trade.
Cmon bro Ben Simmons literally has the same type of playstyle and build as LeBron and magic