i mean, let's be honest. If the tank cost about $60 but you have to play around 10 hours a day to be able to get the tank for free. You better find yourself a small job where you earn 5$ an hour and buy the tank after 2 days instead of grinding this game.
Actually, it's a lot worse for the "Average" player as Skill suggested. If I remember correctly, base xp counts towards the grind ONLY if you are in the top 10 of your team. For good players, that's not that big of an issue, because they are top 10 most of the time. However, average players might not get into the top 10 more often than 60%.
It has been done like this because of bots. If there would be no Top 10 requirement, then expect hundreds, if not thousands of bots farming xp for the tank.
especially, during these events and others, a lot of players dont play normal BECUASE they are trying to survive the longest for EXP so you will see a lot of abnormal gameplay leading to 0 - 15 games where only 1-4 people break 1,000 dmg. And this is 3-5 game rotation!
@@szum1kk awake!!!! The people finishing these marathons are addicts like me or professionals working for money like Skill. And there is also the people paying money instead of grinding. Like the collectors, many streamers not associated to WG, the scatterbrained not considering if this digital content (tank) value is better or worse than another DC (tanks) and, of course, the children with awful parenting and access to a credit card.
Also when you get top damage 40 games you will get around 40k exp anyways. So lets say you manage to get top damage every 3 out of 5 games which is pretty impossible even for the best players. You would still get the exp mission done before you complete the 40 games mission. It's literally ridiculous.
@@ahmetzyc 3/5 is very possible and tbh quite easy, if u dont have couple good players in your team. I did the last mission today and had top dmg like 2/3 games
I average about 550 base and play no more than 10 games a day and not every day. Best i'd get is 30% off. Not bothering with this grind. 70 games a day puts it beyond most of the player base. Great vid Skill.
Yea and maybe you do it for 1-2 days but on the 3rd day you probably are already sick of this game. Games during the marathon are also way more sweaty than normally.
261,000 xp to get it for free. Unless you think the bottom 5 players are always bots, 5 out of 15 players won't make progress for a match. That means on average, players will have to earn 391,500 xp if they don't complete any of the higher skill challenges. For reference, that's like grinding from tier 1 to 9 with no boosters, first win bonuses or top of the tree bonuses in 11 days. Absolutely insane levels of no-lifing
and this is exactly the mindset they love about the players. because spending time in a f2p game without spending is not going to keep the server running.
40 to 50 games with small breakes for food that's an entire day of grinding for average players i remember grinding the 274a strv k and lis the sad thing i got the lis to 80% then didn't complete it and didn't have the money to buy it.. it was painful 😭
A few things that could be changed. Instead of XP, have 1 point for the last player and if you come first 20 points (15 +5 for being at the top). New players who have just started the game, will find it had to finish in the first 10 places to score XP. Change each part of the XP to scaling points. Also, in the past, I have found it very frustrating when I need 100 XP to finish a section I am playing and score say 1100 XP, the 1000 XP isn't transferred to the next section but lost.
I couldn't finish the last mission cause it was also a bit absurd, but heck, 90% off so I bought it. It was so OP back then when nobody knew how to pen it. Jush rush forward and empty all ammoracks. I loved terrorising enemy team with it. Nowadays it isn't really competetive anymore.
@@strelock-youssef It is also one of my most played tanks to earn some money and raise my wn8, but it no longer causes huge panic when I just push forward :D
I have completed the marathon through the xp path. I spent 2 hrs in the afternoon and 2 hrs in the night with a 600-700 xp average. One thing I realised is if you use tier 8 broken tanks (my case was the projekt ion) and do a heavy rush, in 3 mins either you allow the team to win the game in 5 mins or you do enough in 3 mins and die you should be top 10. Then you pick a second broken tank (mine was AE phase) and repeat. I was able to get about 60 - 70 games played in 4 hrs (win rate was surprisingly 50+ %) and finished the marathon well before the deadline while being alive. The last tactic is to try hard the first 4-5 tiers through the challenge and not base XP route and then normally play. You should hit tier 8, 9 or even finish the marathon
I'm an average player. I don't have the time or desire to get this tank for free or to buy it. So I'll simply play as normal, get whatever the "regular" awards I can from the stages and forget about this. I'm not a tank collector and I already have plenty of premium tanks that I use to farm some gold once in a while. I don't need this.
I refuse to give WG any more money until they fix the terrible MM. Most the time in tier 8 I am bottom tier, and most games are one sided blowouts. Not sure why they think I would give them even 1 dolla for a tier 8 tank.
I don't participate in marathons for discounts. Its not worth it. I just play my favorite game. By the way there is too much of everything just to keep us with this game. Onslought, Wafeltrigger, marathon...Mirny just around the corner. WG is doing what they can to tie us to this game.
I really hate all this Marathons. Its not possible to play that period. Short picture from today : 12 Battles- 10 Lost, 2 Wins. Wtr rating for that day 2311... My team was all time melted faster then Ice Cream in Sun... And my non Marathon WTR daily rating Usually 6000 -7500.I started suddenly play 3x times worst??? Or just WG DO Matchmaking on marathon time rigged to not let you -play at your skill level??? I have picture from this session as evidence too!
I remember the good old days of progetto 46 and ebr 75 marathon. Was possible for the average player with maybe a little extra time than usual. This is just insane
hello mr skill, i remember back when all you had to do was log in for so many day's and you could win a FREE su100y, and thing's like the best team high scores would win you a nice tier 8 tank {i did it twice} and all of the FREE thing's you could get just by winning game's this was wot before the account's took over.
I was deeply considering my life choices though should I take a part in this marathon or not. Thanks to your video Mr.skill you've casted the clouds around my thoughts and thx to u I can see it very clear. Its so tempting to get the tank but I decided to not pay a single penny anymore to GOLD-Gaming and i'm not talking about shooting premium gold shells. Salute!
And I was thinking "shit... i'll be missing a couple of days and the grind will be harder..." but actually it will be impossible. Much appreciated for sharing this knowledge!
The thing is... i already have tons of premium tanks (and i am assuming other players too) - this one is not broken or special or any close to be interesting.. why would i get another average tank while paying with being forced to play game? or even open my wallet? Either WG is mad here or players, or me by not having FOMO.
Playing the marathon for the tank: ❌ Playing the marathon for the rewards: ✅ Not playing the marathon so that marking the tank would be harder: /// 👁️👄👁️
I do get that WG is a company that wants to make money, but the time you need to put in to get an average premium tank for free feels like a freakin scam. I wanted to make a video about "Why you should return / start playing WoT" . With those kind of actions from WG I can't argue for good
I've never done these missions before and I won't be starting now because this is the way these have been run ever since they started this kind of event.
for me it will be more like 250 games including special missions and not purely xp grind. i will also play churchill 3 to cut it down even more on the stages that make sense with XP
Absolutely agree with you, Skill. The grind is not worth while for me ...not even close. I've invested lots of money into this game over the years, but events like this seem like they're trying to play a trick on me, and I don't like it. I don't have the time to play 30-60 games a day and I will not be buying the tank.
For most players it will be impossible to get for free because there just isn't enough time after irl commitments. WG trick you into thinking you got a good discount but really the price is very inflated and your discounted price is what it should be sold for to begin with. I'm not giving WG any money.
Very nice presentation of the marathon missions! That reward td, as any other pixels that WG is selling, is not worth even 30 cents, let alone 30 euros.
I would love to see the statistics at the end of the event, to see how many players actually played it through. My prediction is that there will be a lot of players playing 10 hours a day.
As an average player myself i finished the obj 274a marathon and back then itvwas 232k or 240k xp andit took me lots of game to finish it completely, and i think i ll try this one
In my opinion, if you want the tank, just try to get stages 7-8 which is somehow reasonable to do in 11 days and the buy it with discount. It will still be t8 premium for good money. Playing lower tiers might be better to get the base exp, games are faster, if you are above average player you will have better exp/game results then on higher tiers. Also playing mediums/lights might give you more exp due to how it is calculated if you can get good results. I would probably avoid playing high tier TDs if you try to complete for base exp for same reasons.
I think this marathon is worth it if 1. You have a lot of time(because you are on vacation or something) 2. You want to play the game a lot anyways. 3. You like the tank
You are 100% correct! WG wants you to buy it but they want you to "feel" like you're getting a deal. I did the progetto 46 marathon and got it for free. That was a brutal grind! I don't think the Grom is worth the grind to get it for free, but if you can get 80% discount i say go for it!
I have done 7 or 8 marathons, some worse than this one. I think people need to keep three things in mind when thinking about doing a marathon, one is do you have the time, second, is it worth your mental health, and thirdly, what are your longer term aims in WOT. If you are planning to play for the foreseeable future then doing the marathon will not only give you a premium tank and other mission rewards, but also you can grind quite a bit of credits and free XP for other things. For me, at first I was not going to do it, but since its 11 days it is manageable for me. I think the XP is a little high, and WG would get more people interested if they lowered it a bit, because now I think a lot of players will just dismiss the whole thing out of hand because it is very very grindy. But, I will see how it goes and make my mind up as I play, I should know if I will continue by how it goes on the first day.
I don't bother about ANY marathon. Either I don't care about specific tank or plan to get it later on (years) with bonds or credits. This tank is boring, not worse my time at all.
Wargaming is probably adjusting to some small percentage of playerbase that has insanse stats like 1000 base experience in some rare tanks that 99% of players do not own and cannot acquire.
@@vinct7023 Some of the tanks in these marathons are not that great and are pushed out of the meta eventually. But I have gotten some surprisingly good ones too. I have also skipped quite a few marathons as well for the exact reason you state. I think this tank will be challenging to play, but that upfront style is not going to be boring I think, frustrating yes but not boring in my opinion.
King baboon you read my soul, this is crazy. I love wot even with kaku rng but i cant trade my precious time. I have family ican spend time with them more. ❤
It's the same thing they have done since the T-44-100. They know most will buy it at 50% off, or close to the price of any tier 8 prem they sell. However, they have never said how many get it for free besides the first one, the IS-6. That was tier 6 only, 100K XP per nation across 4 weeks, with Japan added halfway in. So about 18K per day. Then only 6% of the players got it. After the T-44-100 it's been about 22 to 25K XP needed per day across about 10 days. I would be surprised if more than 5% got most of those for free.
As you said, if wargaming priced the tank fairly (USD$40 or so) then the mission marathon might be worth it to grind the first few stages... luckily I don't care enough to no-life the game for a few days to get a middling premium tank for about what it's actually worth
The marathons are designed with marketing strategy in mind, typical for free to play games. The only one I cared for was for TVP Shrek which required some gold and it was different, but I do not regret it.
Then wg should continue this. If there are people willing to pay for this shit, they would be stupid if they didnt use that fact. If the majority of playerbase stopped paying, things would change.
Shown base XP in the records is the correct value - regardless if you have an premium or normal account. You don´t have to divide it by anything. Correct?
I always done it that way. 50% Discount, on good days even 60% Discount, and then buying the Item. I ain't gonna waste to much time on grinding Base-Exp.
I will not be doing this marathon for a tank with distance penalty. What`s the dpm from 500m? about 1000 is it? next thing wg is gonna come up with is a TD with 10000 damage per shot and 14min reload time 🙄
The freaking master mission in the last stage requires you play t9-10 and be on top damage 40 times, for the best players that likes to play for damage say daki, he will probably get this done within 50 games, but in the same time with this level of performance, you’ll pretty much get 53k base xp, so it literally doesn’t even save time if you’re extremely good at the game😂
Just dropped it at 7th stage more or less. Just can't take it anymore is so awful and painful, all the days I finish burnt with headache bc of the ammount of hours. Already have Kilana that it's pretty good. I'm not gonna do this thing again, never.
The only marathon I fully finished is t-44-100, after that I just finish what I can and purchase if I feel like the tank. Not worth the time grinding, my time worth much more than that $40.
we all know who have been playing this game for some time WG only puts trash tanks in marathons, WG will never put a good to decent tank in them, WG developers only put trash in the game if they can fix 4 basic things this game might be good mm RNG prem ammo and banning mods
I got great free marathon tanks before(borat/ebr/progetto/shrek ......etc). But now i dont have the time, the pacience and the nerves for a marathon. Also i strongly belive that the games in 2024 are realy bad mm wise. The experience cost of 261k its just insane. I use to be that player that always finished the marathons(long grind not mastery), but in the old days the experience cost was like 150k-180k max. Also the tank does not seem to be worth the trouble(no turret, bad gun), , maybe at 80% discount if you are a polish TD fan/tank collector.
I never get past about stage 5 but then that’s fine: I don’t want to spend my life on this game and I don’t want to spend my money on this game’s tanks
Best front armor eva! Perfect to close distance combat and spreads fear in minds of most playerz - let the Holly Bannanna Split will flow down on them all. 🙏 ✋😑🕉🙃 WoT mercy! It's just a game but sometimes taken too seriously.
the worst part about this (and marathons in general) is that everyone is try harding with premium consumable and op tanks to get the top XP. These days will be brutal and you will get 0 fun out of the game. PS: Dont forget skill, you need to be top 10 on XP to progress. Therefore risky light tank play, no arta play, only meds and heavies are feasable.
now that we have a tank that does more dmg up close, perhaps we should get a tank that does more dmg the further away the target is? say.. a anti tank gyro jet round?
So, roughly, I'm gonna need to around 26,1k Base XP per day, coz I'm planning on skipping a day. With me being an average player (55% WR and around 505 Base XP average), that would take 52 games per day ! As far as I remember, weren't previous marathons like that capping out at around 150,000 Base XP for 10-ish days ? This is stupid !
Since I stopped doing marathons, I live better. Then I told myself that I could try to stop playing completely and... now I'm fine. My wallet also benefited.If one day the developers make changes to the game that could make it less frustrating, then I will consider the possibility of a return. But for now, apart from the change to the skill system, I only see new tanks and the usual events.
3:23 LMAO I'M DEAD~!~!~! 😂🤣😂🤣😂 Buddy, sometimes you make me laugh so hard~!~!~! By the way: I should teach you how to pronounce certain words better; we have been saying that for YEARS now - lol
I think that if your playing let’s say tier 9 then the amount or xp you need will be lower if your good player cause you can complete some mastery missions and save yourself from grinding few ten thousands of base xp
You are only truly half way when you complete the 7th stage .
Someone at Wargaming must have tried Runescape for the first time.
@@OriginalXVeris lmao i was about to make osrs reference then i saw ur comment. 92 is half 99
experience-wise, yes. discount-wise, no :)
Still 25 euro for a tank whit completed 4th stage is 50e
I dont know if im noob or not, but ive completed only 5 stages, and it took me 135 games already
Nothings free as time is worth more than just money!
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Time is the most valuable thing ever. If one is not having fun doing the marathon, it's better to skip it.
@@lordz00 people should not even watch the mission requirements, these are jokes for no lifers
i mean, let's be honest. If the tank cost about $60 but you have to play around 10 hours a day to be able to get the tank for free. You better find yourself a small job where you earn 5$ an hour and buy the tank after 2 days instead of grinding this game.
But still it's free if you have time 😂😂😂😂
Actually, it's a lot worse for the "Average" player as Skill suggested. If I remember correctly, base xp counts towards the grind ONLY if you are in the top 10 of your team. For good players, that's not that big of an issue, because they are top 10 most of the time. However, average players might not get into the top 10 more often than 60%.
tank not for everyone
Tbf the average player kinda sucks, doesn’t matter to much lol
It has been done like this because of bots. If there would be no Top 10 requirement, then expect hundreds, if not thousands of bots farming xp for the tank.
especially, during these events and others, a lot of players dont play normal BECUASE they are trying to survive the longest for EXP so you will see a lot of abnormal gameplay leading to 0 - 15 games where only 1-4 people break 1,000 dmg. And this is 3-5 game rotation!
@@szum1kk awake!!!! The people finishing these marathons are addicts like me or professionals working for money like Skill.
And there is also the people paying money instead of grinding. Like the collectors, many streamers not associated to WG, the scatterbrained not considering if this digital content (tank) value is better or worse than another DC (tanks) and, of course, the children with awful parenting and access to a credit card.
This marathon is madness, you get a tank for free but your will to play the game will be gone too...
Exactly, when you get the tank you might play it next year when you come back and play a game of WOT 🤣
And the tank isn't great 😅you might play it twice after all that😂 no thanks WG
It’s moments like these where I’m grateful for hitting Super Uni so these events aren’t too painful to grind
The last mission , 40 topdmg games is a joke , like im happy i play that many battles over 2-3 days
Also when you get top damage 40 games you will get around 40k exp anyways. So lets say you manage to get top damage every 3 out of 5 games which is pretty impossible even for the best players. You would still get the exp mission done before you complete the 40 games mission. It's literally ridiculous.
@@ahmetzyc you know what else is impossible, playing the IX-X tier whatsoever rn since its 98% brainless bots due to this
@@ahmetzyc 3/5 is very possible and tbh quite easy, if u dont have couple good players in your team. I did the last mission today and had top dmg like 2/3 games
I have several premium tanks in my garage and I hardly ever play with them, and the same would happen with this one.
I average about 550 base and play no more than 10 games a day and not every day. Best i'd get is 30% off. Not bothering with this grind. 70 games a day puts it beyond most of the player base. Great vid Skill.
Yea and maybe you do it for 1-2 days but on the 3rd day you probably are already sick of this game. Games during the marathon are also way more sweaty than normally.
261,000 xp to get it for free. Unless you think the bottom 5 players are always bots, 5 out of 15 players won't make progress for a match. That means on average, players will have to earn 391,500 xp if they don't complete any of the higher skill challenges. For reference, that's like grinding from tier 1 to 9 with no boosters, first win bonuses or top of the tree bonuses in 11 days. Absolutely insane levels of no-lifing
I can always make money, but I can't get time back.
to be honest you are wasting your time by playing this game in first place
@@RanDallsvk I wish I could push the like icon one hundred times on both your comments.
and this is exactly the mindset they love about the players.
because spending time in a f2p game without spending is not going to keep the server running.
Nope nope nope nope...wait, let me think about it.....nope
That's the recommendation for me. o7
40 to 50 games with small breakes for food that's an entire day of grinding for average players i remember grinding the 274a strv k and lis the sad thing i got the lis to 80% then didn't complete it and didn't have the money to buy it.. it was painful 😭
true
only done su 130 pm. my first marathon was exciting. passed the rest
Average players.
Havent even started and i already gave up lol
you win
Love your honest thoughts...😊
Let's hope in an healthy burnout and see each other in a year or more.
No xmas boxes and no money spent on grom to worry about.
completely ridiculous, wont be bothering
Very nice summary. Thanks Skill :)
A few things that could be changed. Instead of XP, have 1 point for the last player and if you come first 20 points (15 +5 for being at the top). New players who have just started the game, will find it had to finish in the first 10 places to score XP. Change each part of the XP to scaling points. Also, in the past, I have found it very frustrating when I need 100 XP to finish a section I am playing and score say 1100 XP, the 1000 XP isn't transferred to the next section but lost.
the only marathon i finished is TS-5 back when i was jobless and have free time
I couldn't finish the last mission cause it was also a bit absurd, but heck, 90% off so I bought it. It was so OP back then when nobody knew how to pen it. Jush rush forward and empty all ammoracks. I loved terrorising enemy team with it. Nowadays it isn't really competetive anymore.
@@tomclanys still a great tank
ts-5 and 252u are the main credit makers on my account
hold W and devastate any one you encounter
@@strelock-youssef It is also one of my most played tanks to earn some money and raise my wn8, but it no longer causes huge panic when I just push forward :D
i think the old marathons had less than the 260k exp. the t9 heavy i guess was 250k
As always. excellent video skill. I personally am passing on the tank. Not my cup of tea.
Casual and working player here. By what im seeing i will only play in the time for 5 days total. So thats 180 games a day. Amazing logic by WG :d
This is the content I love, actual numbers, realistic breakdown, no fluff. Thank you for laying it out as it is.
I have completed the marathon through the xp path. I spent 2 hrs in the afternoon and 2 hrs in the night with a 600-700 xp average.
One thing I realised is if you use tier 8 broken tanks (my case was the projekt ion) and do a heavy rush, in 3 mins either you allow the team to win the game in 5 mins or you do enough in 3 mins and die you should be top 10. Then you pick a second broken tank (mine was AE phase) and repeat. I was able to get about 60 - 70 games played in 4 hrs (win rate was surprisingly 50+ %) and finished the marathon well before the deadline while being alive.
The last tactic is to try hard the first 4-5 tiers through the challenge and not base XP route and then normally play. You should hit tier 8, 9 or even finish the marathon
I just take a new techtree line and grind it while grinding the grom. 2 flies with one clap
works ....till your done all the lines...lol
definitely no. You want to play tank with which you can win most of the battles and try to steal as much kills as possible to get highest xp
@@bury4660 The most obvious strategy to is take your tank where you statistically have the highest DPG or base xp.
but it doesnt count if you play under tier 6 so.......
@@VremeUhode-wt6fw no shit sherlock i can read
I'm an average player. I don't have the time or desire to get this tank for free or to buy it. So I'll simply play as normal, get whatever the "regular" awards I can from the stages and forget about this. I'm not a tank collector and I already have plenty of premium tanks that I use to farm some gold once in a while. I don't need this.
I feel that the marathon for the T-34-85M was the last marathon that was doable without making the game a second job.
I refuse to give WG any more money until they fix the terrible MM. Most the time in tier 8 I am bottom tier, and most games are one sided blowouts. Not sure why they think I would give them even 1 dolla for a tier 8 tank.
I don't participate in marathons for discounts. Its not worth it. I just play my favorite game. By the way there is too much of everything just to keep us with this game. Onslought, Wafeltrigger, marathon...Mirny just around the corner. WG is doing what they can to tie us to this game.
skill, chose you as my commander from the Waffle event! LOVE the voiceovers!
Thanks for saying this, i always thought these maratons are so hard to complete
The chances of me completing the marathon are about the same chance of WG fixing the unbalanced MM.
I really hate all this Marathons. Its not possible to play that period. Short picture from today : 12 Battles- 10 Lost, 2 Wins. Wtr rating for that day 2311... My team was all time melted faster then Ice Cream in Sun... And my non Marathon WTR daily rating Usually 6000 -7500.I started suddenly play 3x times worst??? Or just WG DO Matchmaking on marathon time rigged to not let you -play at your skill level??? I have picture from this session as evidence too!
I remember the good old days of progetto 46 and ebr 75 marathon. Was possible for the average player with maybe a little extra time than usual. This is just insane
hello mr skill, i remember back when all you had to do was log in for so many day's and you could win a FREE su100y, and thing's like the best team high scores would win you a nice tier 8 tank {i did it twice} and all of the FREE thing's you could get just by winning game's this was wot before the account's took over.
I was deeply considering my life choices though should I take a part in this marathon or not. Thanks to your video Mr.skill you've casted the clouds around my thoughts and thx to u I can see it very clear. Its so tempting to get the tank but I decided to not pay a single penny anymore to GOLD-Gaming and i'm not talking about shooting premium gold shells. Salute!
And I was thinking "shit... i'll be missing a couple of days and the grind will be harder..." but actually it will be impossible. Much appreciated for sharing this knowledge!
The thing is... i already have tons of premium tanks (and i am assuming other players too) - this one is not broken or special or any close to be interesting.. why would i get another average tank while paying with being forced to play game? or even open my wallet? Either WG is mad here or players, or me by not having FOMO.
Its kinda interesting, 4k dpm with 800 alfa in close combat, but still not worth it.
Playing the marathon
for the tank: ❌
Playing the marathon
for the rewards: ✅
Not playing the marathon so that marking the tank would be harder:
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I do get that WG is a company that wants to make money, but the time you need to put in to get an average premium tank for free feels like a freakin scam. I wanted to make a video about "Why you should return / start playing WoT" . With those kind of actions from WG I can't argue for good
pff it's like you been asleep the last decade and just woke up.
It's spelled WeGreedy for a good reason.
Yeah, it's nothing new. Stop cry kid!
I've never done these missions before and I won't be starting now because this is the way these have been run ever since they started this kind of event.
for me it will be more like 250 games including special missions and not purely xp grind. i will also play churchill 3 to cut it down even more on the stages that make sense with XP
Absolutely agree with you, Skill. The grind is not worth while for me ...not even close. I've invested lots of money into this game over the years, but events like this seem like they're trying to play a trick on me, and I don't like it. I don't have the time to play 30-60 games a day and I will not be buying the tank.
For most players it will be impossible to get for free because there just isn't enough time after irl commitments. WG trick you into thinking you got a good discount but really the price is very inflated and your discounted price is what it should be sold for to begin with. I'm not giving WG any money.
Very nice presentation of the marathon missions! That reward td, as any other pixels that WG is selling, is not worth even 30 cents, let alone 30 euros.
I would love to see the statistics at the end of the event, to see how many players actually played it through. My prediction is that there will be a lot of players playing 10 hours a day.
As an average player myself i finished the obj 274a marathon and back then itvwas 232k or 240k xp andit took me lots of game to finish it completely, and i think i ll try this one
In my opinion, if you want the tank, just try to get stages 7-8 which is somehow reasonable to do in 11 days and the buy it with discount. It will still be t8 premium for good money.
Playing lower tiers might be better to get the base exp, games are faster, if you are above average player you will have better exp/game results then on higher tiers. Also playing mediums/lights might give you more exp due to how it is calculated if you can get good results. I would probably avoid playing high tier TDs if you try to complete for base exp for same reasons.
lol 4:30 and thats IF you dont have an actual life; girlfirend/wife, friends, family events, WORK, sleep, food, sanity, etc.
I think this marathon is worth it if 1. You have a lot of time(because you are on vacation or something) 2. You want to play the game a lot anyways. 3. You like the tank
You are 100% correct! WG wants you to buy it but they want you to "feel" like you're getting a deal. I did the progetto 46 marathon and got it for free. That was a brutal grind! I don't think the Grom is worth the grind to get it for free, but if you can get 80% discount i say go for it!
I have done 7 or 8 marathons, some worse than this one. I think people need to keep three things in mind when thinking about doing a marathon, one is do you have the time, second, is it worth your mental health, and thirdly, what are your longer term aims in WOT. If you are planning to play for the foreseeable future then doing the marathon will not only give you a premium tank and other mission rewards, but also you can grind quite a bit of credits and free XP for other things.
For me, at first I was not going to do it, but since its 11 days it is manageable for me. I think the XP is a little high, and WG would get more people interested if they lowered it a bit, because now I think a lot of players will just dismiss the whole thing out of hand because it is very very grindy. But, I will see how it goes and make my mind up as I play, I should know if I will continue by how it goes on the first day.
I don't bother about ANY marathon. Either I don't care about specific tank or plan to get it later on (years) with bonds or credits. This tank is boring, not worse my time at all.
Wargaming is probably adjusting to some small percentage of playerbase that has insanse stats like 1000 base experience in some rare tanks that 99% of players do not own and cannot acquire.
@@vinct7023 Some of the tanks in these marathons are not that great and are pushed out of the meta eventually. But I have gotten some surprisingly good ones too. I have also skipped quite a few marathons as well for the exact reason you state. I think this tank will be challenging to play, but that upfront style is not going to be boring I think, frustrating yes but not boring in my opinion.
strongly agreed on first paragraph. You also get an imbalanced tank for a next onslaught light
King baboon you read my soul, this is crazy. I love wot even with kaku rng but i cant trade my precious time. I have family ican spend time with them more. ❤
It's the same thing they have done since the T-44-100. They know most will buy it at 50% off, or close to the price of any tier 8 prem they sell. However, they have never said how many get it for free besides the first one, the IS-6. That was tier 6 only, 100K XP per nation across 4 weeks, with Japan added halfway in. So about 18K per day. Then only 6% of the players got it. After the T-44-100 it's been about 22 to 25K XP needed per day across about 10 days. I would be surprised if more than 5% got most of those for free.
As you said, if wargaming priced the tank fairly (USD$40 or so) then the mission marathon might be worth it to grind the first few stages... luckily I don't care enough to no-life the game for a few days to get a middling premium tank for about what it's actually worth
I have so many premiums and I don't have time to no life game for 11 days.
The marathons are designed with marketing strategy in mind, typical for free to play games. The only one I cared for was for TVP Shrek which required some gold and it was different, but I do not regret it.
I agree fully with you skill..:)
5 years, same story. And people still falling for it.
Then wg should continue this. If there are people willing to pay for this shit, they would be stupid if they didnt use that fact. If the majority of playerbase stopped paying, things would change.
Who has the time to do this irl! Wg come up with some great ideas and then boom, Babboom ideas!
Shown base XP in the records is the correct value - regardless if you have an premium or normal account. You don´t have to divide it by anything. Correct?
I always done it that way. 50% Discount, on good days even 60% Discount, and then buying the Item. I ain't gonna waste to much time on grinding Base-Exp.
I dont need this tank, no need to put that time, even if it has 90% discount
Also keep in mind if you lose a game the amount of base exp is gonna be meh. So you might just double or triple your grinding time there.
Damn it, I only play WOT at work when I'm in the office for the nightshift. 😂
thanks for the calculation
Marathon time is hell in Wot
I will not be doing this marathon for a tank with distance penalty. What`s the dpm from 500m? about 1000 is it? next thing wg is gonna come up with is a TD with 10000 damage per shot and 14min reload time 🙄
I think it's better if you get the tech tree tier 8 SDP 58 kilana some 700 damage gun reload 15.6
The freaking master mission in the last stage requires you play t9-10 and be on top damage 40 times, for the best players that likes to play for damage say daki, he will probably get this done within 50 games, but in the same time with this level of performance, you’ll pretty much get 53k base xp, so it literally doesn’t even save time if you’re extremely good at the game😂
Thx for honest calculations
Just dropped it at 7th stage more or less. Just can't take it anymore is so awful and painful, all the days I finish burnt with headache bc of the ammount of hours. Already have Kilana that it's pretty good. I'm not gonna do this thing again, never.
The only marathon I fully finished is t-44-100, after that I just finish what I can and purchase if I feel like the tank. Not worth the time grinding, my time worth much more than that $40.
i totaly agree,a lot of grind for average tank! ;) ;) ;)
we all know who have been playing this game for some time WG only puts trash tanks in marathons, WG will never put a good to decent tank in them,
WG developers only put trash in the game
if they can fix 4 basic things this game might be good
mm
RNG
prem ammo
and banning mods
Last time after I finished a marathon i was so burnt out that 8 stopped playing for a year, so no I'm not doing this one
As a Pole, i will buy it. I'm normally f2p player. Never bought anything in this game (even premium time), so I'll survive 1 purchase.
I got great free marathon tanks before(borat/ebr/progetto/shrek ......etc).
But now i dont have the time, the pacience and the nerves for a marathon. Also i strongly belive that the games in 2024 are realy bad mm wise. The experience cost of 261k its just insane. I use to be that player that always finished the marathons(long grind not mastery), but in the old days the experience cost was like 150k-180k max.
Also the tank does not seem to be worth the trouble(no turret, bad gun), , maybe at 80% discount if you are a polish TD fan/tank collector.
I never get past about stage 5 but then that’s fine: I don’t want to spend my life on this game and I don’t want to spend my money on this game’s tanks
Best front armor eva!
Perfect to close distance combat and spreads fear in minds of most playerz - let the Holly Bannanna Split will flow down on them all. 🙏
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WoT mercy! It's just a game but sometimes taken too seriously.
Thanks for clearing this up, definitely not worth trying. Time's more valuable.
the worst part about this (and marathons in general) is that everyone is try harding with premium consumable and op tanks to get the top XP. These days will be brutal and you will get 0 fun out of the game.
PS: Dont forget skill, you need to be top 10 on XP to progress. Therefore risky light tank play, no arta play, only meds and heavies are feasable.
Thanks Skill ! Think I'll Skip this one :) Still trying to get 2 more Chapters done in BattlePass *sigh*
It is what it is, free stuff from WG is never truly free!
True. You have to stop working in order to complete those marathons. :D
@@gunslinger4958 so it's smarter to keep working for a week - because you earn more money at work and just buy it xD
WeGreedy doesn't do free stuff, ever. Nice that people are starting to take notice even more it seems
@@MarvinWestmaas doesnt do free stuff
what about obsidian last year?
sure not the best tank but your comment is simply wrong
İt wasnt free, you had to grind. @@MrDuck3513
time+electricity+internet connection+food=free tank from wg XD
I'd need several days for one of the 40k+ base xp steps, having maybe 2 hours a day of time for WoT.
They can keep their weird Polish thing
Just go to work for 1-2 hours and buy this at 10th day of marathon.
Thanks Skill.
now that we have a tank that does more dmg up close, perhaps we should get a tank that does more dmg the further away the target is? say.. a anti tank gyro jet round?
So, roughly, I'm gonna need to around 26,1k Base XP per day, coz I'm planning on skipping a day. With me being an average player (55% WR and around 505 Base XP average), that would take 52 games per day !
As far as I remember, weren't previous marathons like that capping out at around 150,000 Base XP for 10-ish days ? This is stupid !
Marathons were always challeging to complete but this time its almost impossible to do all 10 stages.
community: potentional free tank? WG: nope, not here.....
Not going to stress about this tank.
Since I stopped doing marathons, I live better. Then I told myself that I could try to stop playing completely and... now I'm fine. My wallet also benefited.If one day the developers make changes to the game that could make it less frustrating, then I will consider the possibility of a return. But for now, apart from the change to the skill system, I only see new tanks and the usual events.
My W8 is going down with this one
Have a nice day skill.
I’m a consistent 52% player and I don’t expect to finish this. I’m just looking for a discount.
3:23 LMAO I'M DEAD~!~!~! 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Buddy, sometimes you make me laugh so hard~!~!~!
By the way: I should teach you how to pronounce certain words better; we have been saying that for YEARS now - lol
Clear as usual.
Nice video, I'll be on vacation so I won't even bother with it.
Labas @skill4ltu
The reason why you are my Nr.1 is because you are deadly seriously and give everyone the best possible advice
most people are better off working an extra day in the week and paying for it, its way more time efficient
I think that if your playing let’s say tier 9 then the amount or xp you need will be lower if your good player cause you can complete some mastery missions and save yourself from grinding few ten thousands of base xp