Ford F250 vs Ram 2500: Which HD Work Truck Is The MPG Champ?
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) What's the most fuel efficient heavy duty gasoline towing truck? In this video we test the gas powered Ford F250 vs Ram 2500 in TFLtruck 100 mile towing MPG test.
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Where is the Silverado 2500HD
It's to bad to be here!
This is really informative. I don't tow enough to warrant the cost or complexity of a diesel
I'm actually sick of the comment sections on any truck matchups or even muscle car matchups, it reminds me of our political landscape right now, you're extreme supporting on either side. it's actually disgusting, as a pickup truck fan and muscle fan, fanboys drive me crazy cuz they litter the comment sections with their pre-conceived notions about reliability and what not. the comment section is more like a meme war between fanboys. why can't you miserable fanboys appreciate both trucks? the Ram is using a coil rear suspension with an 8 year old designed hemi engine and it squatted LESS than the Ford. it hasn't had a major update since 2009, and give credit to the Ford, it's engine and tranny combo proved to be quite more efficient than the Ram. although bland looking, it still proved efficient and showed it would be a great work truck. why the hate? you pickup truck fanboys are so miserable, I'm a mopar guy at heart but I I appreciate all the big 3 offerings. whether in pickups or muscle cars. the rest of you are miserable human beings. you think one is better, and no matter what the other companies do, you'll always have that view of them.... I feel bad for you. I'll get off my soap box now...
Manpreet Singh good for you buddy. I think most of these "my truck is better" comments are from kids or ignorant adults and they hold no value.
Hell ya man. Honestly it's not apples-to-apples once you test with different final drives. Does give prospective buyers an idea of what to expect from a truck configured similarly to one of those, though.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that finds the brand fanatics annoying. Myself I like trucks and would be willing to own any brand. I find the fanatics that hate on everything from brand X to be ignorant and disgusting.
Manpreet Singh well thing is now with trucks that there is such small different s in the trucks that there's no point in arguing about who is better all of the big 3 are great and people need to just realize that you just pick the one you like best and have fun with it
Manpreet Singh. I normally don’t comment but I have to commend you on yours. You nailed it. My fingers are crossed that things will change and these ignorant ways will change with people using their minds and objective observation rather than thoughtless religious like faith. Be it trucks or politics.
Thanks TFL for trying to have the most consistent tests. It is difficult to have exact consistency but you all do a great job trying to keep it as close as possible. I really enjoy your channel!!
I really like doing towing and non towing loops like this. Gives subscribers better idea of how trucks perform in different conditions. Keep it up! Would really like to see all new 2018 Fords do these exact same videos, like 2.7 vs 3.5 vs 5.0.
I wouldn't buy one personally but Dodge (RAM) does make a nice looking base model pickup, the Ford base model really does look "base", for work trucks however I wouldn't complain if either were my company truck.
Arent the only real differences in exterior styling due to replacing of the black plastic with fake chrome? I think even the Ram work truck's grill is all black plastic as well and this one has a chrome option package.
Even the base tradesman has a black plastic grill but to me the overall appearance of the Dodge (RAM) just looks better, for some reason the Ford looks like the wheels don't fit right or something and it looks like they tried to make the grill look good but something just lets it down. Again based on past experience (we have all had lemons in our lives) so I wouldn't personally buy a Dodge again but my personal opinion is the Dodge looks better until you get to the upper end of the line Longhorn and Limited with the goofy grill (the one that has two big holes in it). I'm just glad all three are fairly close overall so I don't have to feel like I settled to get something I felt comfortable owning. As a work truck (company supplied) I know all three will get the job done until they break and when they break it wont sting so much because I am not writing the check.
Ram's look real good in their natural habitat, sitting on the side of the road with their hoods up.
Your mistake was putting it on the lawn. You should leave it at the curb for the garbage man to pick up.
Jeffrey Lines best comment on here 👏🏻👍🏼
Would like to see you do full testing on the new 2019 Ram 2500 6.4. Lets see how that 8 speed tranny compares to the old 6 speed.
Great review guys... and it really hits home with me. I HAD a 2000 Super Duty supercab short bed V10 4x4 for a number of years. I HAVE a 2016 Ram 2500 crew cab short bed 6.4L 4x4, that I've owned for the past year. Both great trucks. In the Super Duty, I was able to get ~16 mpg on a camping trip. In the Ram, I was able to get ~18 mpg... that's with 4.10s & less than 5k miles on the Ram... in 110 degree heat with the A/C cranked the whole way. There are things I do not like about the Ram. There were things I did not like about the Super Duty. I WILL say that the Ram is about the quietest vehicle I've owned... very comfortable over long drives, provided you've got a little weight in the bed to smooth out the ride a bit. I'm equal opportunity... I've got a Ram 2500, a Mercury Grand Marquis, and a C5 Corvette Z06. It's all good... buy what makes you happy!
What year Merc if you dont mine me asking, I had a 85 coupe 5.0 efi lol
I like Ram and Ford trucks equally. But GM? No, no, noooo.
I love this video and the channel overall. Your videos are informative yet entertaining. Greetings from Trinidad and Tobago. I wish these vehicles could be imported into my country but due to old, archaic laws, people can't. Keep it up gents. Much blessings.
+Stefan Santokhie wow, that's so cool that you watch us in Trinidad and Tobago. Hi back!
finally we are getting the work heavy duty gas models tests but I think we need more videos about them & that ford new torqueshift G transmission too by the way the regular 6 speed auto transmission still available for the 6.2 .
Great test. Two variables that, in my opinion give the edge to the Ford. One, I think I heard you say the Ram was two wheel drive. I heard no mention of this for the Ford. Rear drive only would improve mpg by about one mpg. And two, gas tank size. The Ford has, in short bed form, a 34 gallon tank. The Ram is 31 or 32 in short bed. When getting these relatively low mpg’s, that extra bit of range can make a big difference.
Really like these comparisons on the HD trucks since they are not rated by the manufacturer.
+Stuka87 Thanks for watching!
ram fans will still buy rams and ford fans will still buy fords. companies might be swayed. though ive worked at complanies with pickup fleets and it usually boils down to which brand gives the better deal. or what brand the manager likes most.
very impressive highway empty miles. you mentioned the ram was 4x2, but didnt mention what the ford was. plus no rear gear comparison.
ive heard nothing but good about the 6.2. now if only they could cast that in aluminium and put it in the stang.
Big Ford fan here. Always bought fords. Caught a deal on a '07 Ram 2500 6.7 Diesel with 120k for 16k this past year and switched. It's a great truck. No real complaints to speak of. However, had I been able to find a steal like that on a Ford, I'd have bought the Ford, so I mostly agree.
3.73 rear end and 4X2
Ram had the biggest difference I've seen on computer mileage than any other truck you've tested. That happened on both tests and it was a considerable amount. Most trucks are really spot on. Great video. Was impressed with the 6.2.
Do you really trust these guys being they love Ford so much . I do not. I thought that the Ford would be better based on some of their reviews but after just one test drive the Ram was far superior.
Eric s Its really not a matter of trust. Just watching and make my own opinions. Just me, I don't like the ram's dash. Like Gmc's better, And that stupid tow mirror on the ram is just backwards to me. I would never have the spot part of the mirror off to the right, that's nuts to me. And then flip. Not for me. Like i said, I'm still impressed with it. And the diesel. Will be doing some test driving myself.
That's amazing that new 3/4 ton trucks are getting in the upper teens while not towing. I have an 2008 f250 that gets 9.
Ray Wilson it it the v10? that could be why
Jonathan Dittmar it's a 5.4
Ray Wilson My 2018 Power Wagon averages 14, these are stripped down 2wd work trucks.
i remember watching this video my junior year of high school just for entertainment and learning. now, i come back to it because i'm in the market. LOL
Great review Fast Lane..I have been contemplating trading in all my Diesel trucks from all 3 and going to gas....Appreciate the non-bias reviews.. I am more interested in the towing mpg's vs just driving around due to these trucks being worked all the time.
I have a 2016 5.7 2500. Those coil rear ends tow like a dream
sealtite87 Yeah my 1998 Navigator with its coils tows the 24' car hauler nicer than the 2015 F-150 with its leaf springs.
I'm only talking ride smoothness though. It's no contest for squat, power, and fuel economy. 😒
Navigator wouldn't squat so much if I had air bags again but there's still poor fuel economy to contend with.
I am actually surprised that the Ford won that round, and I am "a Ford guy." Nice job, guys! I was honestly expecting the Ram to dominate (slightly). The suspension squat on the Ford was more than expected, too... Just a good round!
Good job guys and great information. I can not wait until you get your hands on the 2020 trucks. Fords 7.3 Godzilla engine vs Ford 6.2 Boss would be a good test. Same for the new 6.6 GM gas vs the Ford 7.3. Then do the same with the diesel engines. Busy busy 2020👍
Can't wait for the next generation rams
Love that you guys did this comparison ! Really hard to find info on any base model work trucks like this so this was a great watch, especially for someone in the market for one, thanks guys !
Another thing that I’ve seen from watching RV videos and reading forums is that you should NOT drive over 65MPH! Once you pass 65 your mileage exponentially reduces the faster you drive and they were driving 70! Take the test again, drive 65 and then recheck your mileage. It will be closer to 10mpg which is much better to live with when towing a horse or cattle trailer, cargo or RV trailer. Another thing that helps at speed is a V-nose trailer! They’re using an old fashion slightly rounded nose trailer. V-nose would also increase the mileage.
the fast lane truck please do more bare bones towing videos because thats what most people buy
Awesome. That's impressive MPG. No wonder I see so many of these heavy duty trucks pulling fifth wheels.
You guys are the best combo on this channel. Hands down.
I can only wish for 16mpg in my 2016 reg cab RAM 2500, 6.4L 4wd. Leveled, it sits a few inches higher in the front end and has the aerodynamics of a box of saltines. 80% city/ 20% highway driving = 11mpg average. But I still hate the Prius, so it all works out.
Luke Edward your nose high stance contributes to your poor mileage.
That sounds about right for a majority city average. TFL's 98 mile loop is nearly all highway cruising, so I'd wager if you did the same it would be somewhat similar (maybe a tad less due to the leveling kit).
omg you people are stupid...ROLLING RESISTANCE!...put those same tires on the work truck and presto, same fuel mileage
phil tripe umm what do you mean by same tires? Tradesman Ram is equipped with the same tires whether 2wd or 4.
samus989 how the heck did you come to that conclusion??? You do know headlight adjustment is independent of front ride height correct?
Even a mild tune , is going to make a significant difference in towing mpg , overall mpg . Stock test I kinda take with a grain of salt , awesome video as always guys.
Great information guys, always appreciate it. I always look forward to your videos. Thank you!
I love your content, but you guys need better mics. Your audio could be much better with better equipped cameras.
i'm a ford guy but after this test i would consider the ram 2500 ! would be really nice to see the silverado 2500 hd results though
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More highway towing [gas only] and less Ike Gauntlet towing tests. Why? Cause most people aren't going to tow up the Ike Gauntlet in a half ton let alone at all in theur lifetime. Thanks! 👍
You mentioned the Ram had 4.10 gears, what did the Ford have?
Cor Morse 3.73
Thank you TLC for always making Ford trucks seem better we all know they are wink wink. Too many people buying Rams now I want to keep Ram a secret so I can continue to laugh at all the special people buying Ford trucks.
Guys, I have a new 2017 Ram similarly equipped to your test truck and I got 8.1 mpg towing a 8000 lb RV at 65 mph this past weekend. Without the RV I can't get this truck past 11.2 mpg. I think I got a lemon!!!
4:03 : F250 tow. 4:50 2500 drive
8:38 : F250 drive. 7:44 2500 tow
Save you some time
I love my Ram 2500 crewcab 6.4 hemi. Power Tradesman with 4.10 gear ratio. Tows 15,630 lbs.
Any issues with your ram 2500 6.4 Hemi so far?'
Chevrolet gave yall guys a shoutout on their RUclips channel.
I'd like to see the same test with 3/4 to or 1 ton Crew Cab Version's pulling 7k to 8K trailers, 4:30 Gears in the Ford and 4:10 in the Ram. The average guy looking to pull an average camp trailer on the weekends and a daily driver to and from work, this is what I want to see. No one is pulling the max load at 70mph on the freeway in a single cab work truck.
Pretty impressive figures for 6 liter engines. Great video guys.
that intake on the ford is jacked up
that all important NVH. I'd remove it in favor a freer flowing unit myself, but cant blame them for appeasing their customers if that's what they want.
Alan Bowers idk how much noise and vibration an intake makes, but it's gotta hurt performance and fuel economy
Not necessarily. Isolating sound and pressure waves is really separate from airflow. Engineers spend a lot of time and energy to come up with these designs. And I can tell you from numerous cold air intakes and even simple resonator deletes or high flow filter replacements that it does make an audible difference, even if minor (but its every last decibel that manufacturers look for).
Octoplane
Great work guys! Loved the video!
You didn't need tow/haul mode for that light a load on flat land. Mileage might have been much different with it off.
These trucks seem remarkably well matched. 16.5 mpg doesn't seem bad considering what I've gotten out of HD trucks in the past.
Ford F 250 all the way.
Enjoyed your video. Thanks for doing this not many people do anything with gas trucks in the 250 to 350 range.
Thanks guys, I appreciate a honest review. Your time and effort.
Try driving 65mph and let the Ram shift up a gear. Also include Ford rear gears. Would like to see them towing more like 7000lbs.
Thanks for doing the heavy duty gas tests! Will you do an Ike run in them too?
Yes, we're running Ike with the Ford next week. We're already run the Ram.
Is there a reason you don't have a 4.30 geared Ford? That would be a bit more apples to apples, and would equal both truck's lowest offering.
The Fast Lane Truck great more challenges for gas base models please
kry226 they get what the manufacturer offers them
SMiller5488, understood. If that's the case, it appears that fuel mileage is more important to Ford than actual towing performance.
I LOVE THE RAMS AND THE FORDS TWO OF THE BEST
If you don't like the suspension squat then get the $160.00 trailer tow package that comes with heavier springs.
At 9:02 minutes, Nathan ask Andre "..which truck felt more comfortable to drive.." not 'which truck squatted more'. Come on Andre. Lol
well that is a surprising MPG result considering my 2013 F150 gets the same and is rated to tow less. might have me considering a 250 when I trade this off in a few years.
they are at higher elevation
Fords speedometer screen is nicer than the rams
That is a very important point. Gotta have a nice speedo...
Alan Bowers Speedometers are part of interior design and quality. A badly designed speedometer WILL be felt, while a good one will be appreciated.
lol I was just chuckling at Ricardo's take-away from this video which was about fuel economy and utility.
Alan Bowers 😂😂😂😂
I buy trucks for the speedos.
All i expect is a bench seat, steering wheel and 2 pedals. It's a damn truck.
Nice job, thanks! What are your preferred snacks when driving the loop all day? :D
These newer engines are nice... I have an '07 Ram 1500 4x4 with the 4.7L V8. The Ram 2500 with the 6.4L is heavier and has about 3 times the power, but still gets the same mpg as my old, lighter truck! Might be time to go shopping soon... ;)
How big of a mpg diffrence would it be if you get crew cabs 4x4 and a mid axle ratio?
My '07 Dodge 1/2 ton 4x4 with the older 4.7l V8 gets about 16.5 mpg. highway. This new HD RAM with waayyy more HP and a heavier truck, gets the same mpg. Nice!
you get your best fuel mpg highway at 55mph doing 70 mph is going drop your mpg rating by 15% so if you get around 20 mpg at highway speed traveling at 55mph it will drop to around 17mpg at 70 mph. Towing kills your fuel mpg by almost 50% so around 10 mpg when towing at 55mph.
wmc128 My 2018 Power Wagon gets the best fuel economy right at 70 MPH. It sits right around 1900rpm at that speed which is the sweet spot for not having to downshift. I can cruise at 55 and get the same 17 MPG, but hills will make it downshift and start killing the fuel mileage.
While not 100% scientific, my MPGs stayed largely the same when I went to Chicago doing the speed limits everywhere vs returning doing 70 or so. I wanted to get home after a long week and it didn't cost me much; maybe half an MPG. It was approximately 650 miles each way.
It depends how long your end game is though. A short trip you're more affected. But short trips also have acceleration and braking, the former is what really kills you.
My issue with my RAM is that in tow/ haul it locks out Over Drive, which is way the RPMs are higher. Guess they are trying to save the transmission.
Good video! Y'all should do this same thing with the ram power wagon and ford raptor.
Ya know I think that you guys always have a favorite in mind. Also you never stated what the GVW & GCW was on either truck. It was stated that the Dodge was 4X2 but not revealed about the Ford. (I saw a knob where the 4X4 switch belongs in the Ford But it could have been the electronic locking axle.) Now who would tow a 12000 lb trailer w/o leveling bars and anti sway @ 70+ mph? Which would make measuring a mute point.
Paul Rodrigues HD trucks don't need leveling and and anti sway anymore. That's a half ton thing. And even it is size related more so than weight (especially anti-sway). Camper, yes. Flatdeck, no.
+The Fast Lane Truck do the 2019 Ford F-250 XL with the 6.7L Diesel vs The 2018 RAM 2500 Tradesmen with the 6.7L Cummins with the 68RFE 6 speed Automatic
Tfl stands for towing full sends and looking at trucks
I think the Ram's transmission is part of what let it down here. It has probably the oldest transmission in the segment. The other aspect of the Ram that's probably messing its MPGs up is that it has a 4.10 rear, and the Ford has a 3.73. I don't think they mentioned this difference in this video, but they did in one of the others. The extra drive train spinning could explain at least some of the towing MPG difference.
That said, the fact that the Ram is easily the oldest and heaviest here says a lot if it's a quarter ton heavier, and gets the same MPGs without a load.
Great work. Very good topic. Thanks for the reliable information. Which off these vehicles did you prefer when driving empty. I'd like both of your judgements now that you've had some time in the saddle.
Those F-250s seem to squat reasonably easily, I've noticed that over the past few years with these newer ones. I like the 6.2 a lot, though, and Ford's aren't known for fuel economy so it did pretty well. I bet the Chevrolet would have beaten both in this challenge, since Chevy seems to be very good about V8 fuel economy.
Ford could really learn some things from dodge about how to clean up under the hood.
I like both trucks but if I were to get one I would choose the Ram but that's just me. If you would buy the Ford power to ya!
Awesome test guys. .....interesting.
Your results aren't news to me, having towed trailers with a Ram for 6 years. The trip display has always been optimistic on mine, and not by a little...sometimes off by 10%. Doesn't really affect me, because I didn't buy it for fuel economy, but would be nice for it to be close to accurate.
9 MPG ?! ... WTF ?! ... did USA heared about TURBO DIESEL engines ? Awsome test TFL ... thank you!
CristianP gasoline engine comparison
CristianP gas is a whole lot cheaper then tier 4 diesels that cannot be trusted. EPA sucks balls...
There is a BIG-3 in the USA; please compare all three of the BIG-3 when comparing specific truck models. Thanks!
R K They already tested the Chevy..
Would be cool to see this test with the 6.0 Silverado
I'm a ford guy and I can say the base model looks ehh... platinum and kings ranch look SEXY
I wonder how much better the Ram would have been w/a 3.73 in back?
NJW1973 I have 3.73 in mine but I have a 4 foot long bed and I average 15mpg but I don't have a very light foot. Honestly the 3.73 aren't bad but i did upgrade to 4.56 gears for the big wheel torque Jump! If this truck had the 8 speed like dodge should have made it with it would be a downright monster and I'm sure average better mpgs easily! I hope future Rams have the 8 speed as an option! I loved it in my 1500!
nice comparison guys!
thanks for doing MPG for 3/4 ton trucks. I always thought that MPG will be much higher for these trucks. So, 2015 lariat F-250 with 6.2, 4x4 and double cab will not get more than 15 MPG highway? Looks like half ton is better option for me.
Well the dodge looks better tho 😂 I believe with 3.73 in the dodge i think it would’ve been super close
great video loved it
Do you think we will ever see a plug-in hybrid trucks?
Our company did a pilot program for the Dodge and a PHEV RAM 1500, it was supposed to be for 3 years but was cut short due to a recall, more info can be found here...news.pickuptrucks.com/2012/09/chrysler-recalls-phev-rams-and-minivans.html
holsteincowboy . ram half ton hybrid is coming.
To be honest I like base model trucks better than the higher dollar ones, first off they are cheaper and secondly i'm not a big fan of chrome and the base models come with almost no chrome. I know you can order new trucks with no chrome but i'm just talking about ones already on a lot.
great work guys, great info!
+Joe schmo glad you like it!
Best I could get was 14.5 mpg average out of my 16 F250 6.2 CC 4x4.
Same 2011 6.2 cc 4 by 4 f250
i'm curious why Ford doesn't have a version of that new EcoBoost engine they use in the Raptor detuned to go in the HD trucks? I mean the regular F150 EcoBoost has more torque than this motor and almost as much horsepower, I would imagine they could use the EcoBoost to make for a much more capable base model...
Love theses match ups
I like them both. I don't care for marque's, just what's on offer. At the end of the day you buy the truck that suits your needs, simple.
Never heard of 85 octane
the day they work all issues out on a 8 or 10 speed transmission on a bigger truck is when ill own one cause for the price if you really need to tow a diesel is worth its weight in resale value
guy proulx there are 10 year old cummins trucks going for double the price of a v8 gas truck. Sometimes a $10,000 difference for a option that was only $4000 new.
Why don t you do a vid of testing the same truck but with different gearing? say the Ram 2500 6.4 hemi with 3:73 and 4:10s . Which would be the best gear for mileage and towing?
Doesn’t account for wind direction and slope, should tow the trailer the same direction not opposite.
Final verdict: buy the one you want they’ll both do the job properly
if the gear ratio of the trucks were reversed you would be getting the opposite results. In the drag race episode it was said the Ram has 4.10 and the Ford 3.73.
It would be nice if they both had the same gear ratio.
I suppose I should put pencil to paper (and a GPS) to see what I'm getting in my '16 Power Wagon, though I've added 200+ pounds in rock/step sliders, a ARE shell, 35's and my ARB fridge is generally well stocked. I'm sure it isn't great, though better than my '97 LX450 (Land Cruiser) which might get 10mpgs off a cliff, with a tailwind. Does the Ford have cylinder deactivation? Both are good work trucks IMHO.
Honestly the ram seemed better. It has coils instaid of leaf springs, Looks like it is not a base truck, and has a lower price. This coming from a ford fan
Best youtube video ever!
You guys crack me up.... The Ford does pretty much everything you test better... Drag racing, mpg.... But you always come up with an excuse as why the other truck is better.... The drag race you had to end it with the ford's brakes being grabby.... The mpg test you come back with the Dodge did squat as much.... I think it was about three quarters of an inch.
Bottom line is the test that you performed the Ford won hands down.
Greg Thatcher maybe the ram drove better and towed the load better. You can't judge something you haven't drive now can you?
Keep preaching us Ram guys want you to believe Ford is better.
Fake news ford boy. Lmao
RAM is long overdue for a platform refresh. Impressive considering how old it is. Frame/engine/construction/etc.