The Real Fix for the Break on Jeep Gladiator Dana UD60 Front Axle
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- Опубликовано: 25 сен 2023
- After cracking the Dana UD60 front axle that Cindy and I have installed on our Jeep JT Gladiator, we attempted to have it fixed by having it welding it up. Unfortunately, nothing is ever as easy as that and a more expensive solution was needed. Needless to say, this video will show you what we ultimately had to do.
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Thanks again for coming down to the shop and letting us get you fixed up. Had a blast as always and look forward to seeing it back on the trail 🤘🏼
You guys do great work and you guys are who we trust to get us fixed up. Looking forward to hitting the trails with you again soon 👍
Great work as usual Disciple Offroad!
I second what Eddie said, Disciple Offroad is excellent! Awesome Job, Jeremy! 👊🏼 Glad you’re back up and running Eddie!
Thanks! Hope to hit some trails with you again soon.
Nice to see people show problems, damage, breakage and how to move past it. Too many are out there doing similar stuff but are “company bought” and would hide this. Great work all around! I really enjoy your content. Sad no puppy at the end of this one 😅👍🏻
We're happy to hear you can appreciate the fact that we share everything we experience. It is our hope that the information we provide can help others. As far as Ripley goes, I am sorry that she didn't make the cut this time around but will try to make sure she makes the next one :)
I don’t own a jeep but I really appreciate the simple yet great content you and Cindy put together. Glad the ol girl is back on the road. Look forward to the future videos of you putting it through its paces.
We're humbled that you would say as much and we're happy to know that you enjoy our videos.
Really nice work. Thanks for sharing. It is always good to see people who know their stuff and these guys are pulling it all off with ease on top. 😻
Yup, Disciple Off Road does great work and we're glad they could help us out.
Proud of my nephew Chad!
YOU ALWAYS PROVIDE CORRECT AND DETAIL INFORMATION ABOUT AUTOMOBILES 👍❤
I'm pressed by Diciple's attention to detail...fine craftsmanship...
Jeep looks tremendous...
Thank you and yes, Disciple is a shop we definitely trust to work on our Jeep.
As always, thank you for a great video. I respect that you tried the weld idea, and even more that you decided to “bite the bullet”. Stay safe out there.
Thank you. We're glad that we could share this with you and appreciate the well wishes. 😎
That looked like a lot of work done very fast...wow!
Waiting for the play video now.
LOL - we'll try our best to get something going soon.
Good show. Congrats on the repair.
Michael Herrell
Glad you enjoyed the video and thank you :)
As always, I love the videos Eddie and Cindy! Just wanted to make note that the long haired gentleman looks like the guy from “The Devil’s Rejects”! 😁
LOL - glad you enjoy the videos 😁
"Tootie f#@%n fruity" in my Rejects voice 🤣 thats a new one for me. I get all kinds of different "do you know who you look like" questions all the time 😅 thats a funny one though
Excellent as usual!!!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Awesome job. Looks like they did a great job.
Disciple Off Road really did a great job :)
It really looked like it. So satisfying to find quality people who can do a quality job. Contratz. @@wayalife
Great video !
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it 😎
Great video , thanks
Glad you enjoyed it 😎
Awesome video. Btw are you running that sketchy front track bar again? I got the rancho one like you recommended and I really like it.
Great 🇺🇸 stuff 🇺🇸 👍 as always 🇺🇸 👍
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video :)
@@wayalife always 👍
Such a Bad Ass Jeep ! ❤
Thank you! Glad you like what you see 😎
Awesome
Glad you enjoyed the video.
That Gladiator is the most beautiful, bad @ss jeep I’ve seen on RUclips. In my opinion. I bet it’s an amazing experience when you’re blasting through any terrain at any speed. My jeep would literally break in half if I tried that.
LOL - glad to hear you like what you see and yes, it is amazing 😎
I swear I'm like Joe Swanson from Family Guy when Peter crashes the HindenPeter, "OMG How can you afford these things!". I envy your Jeep collection and purchases lol!
LOL - just because we can afford it doesn't mean we don't feel the sting. Glad you like our Jeeps :)
Sir may you make a video on accuair kit installation
Would love to but I don't have a Jeep to install one on. Sorry.
Great to see the fix, but I have a really important question. Where is Pippi, and when do we get to see more of her??
Yeah, it's been a while and we'll try to get back to her soon.
Would be great to see some trail videos again.
Sorry, it really has been a while. We stopped doing them because making them was feeling way too much like work and when we're out on the trail, we just want to be enjoying ourselves with our friends. We'll see what we can do though.
@@wayalife sorry to hear that you stopped doing trail videos. That’s half of the reason to watch a Jeep RUclips channel, for the trail rides. But at least we can still enjoy the build videos you still do.
That was a smart move on getting the control arm and shock mounts setup to match the existing caster. Do you have the number on how much positive caster you're running currently?
We typically run about 6° of positive caster.
I need help fixing my axle.
Kind of surprised you went back with a Dana axle. I have not heard of people cracking and bending DynaTrac or Solid axles. But cracks, failed welds, and spun tubes have all been reported with the UD60. A truss would probably be a worthwhile upgrade, which I am sure you are fully aware of. Hopefully this one holds up better. Such an expensive fix for what should be a once and done purchase.
Well, I would be the first to say that what we really wanted is a Currie 9 but that would require a ton of custom work and we'd have to replace the rear axle as well. As far as other axles go, I've yet to see anything other than a Currie or custom fab axle hit whoops as fast as we hit ours (thanks to the new trailing arms). Also, everything breaks and as much as I love our Dynatrac ProRock axles, we've broken them and have seen other break as well, including at the housing. The main reason for going back to the UD60 is that it was readily available, more affordable (and yes, I had to buy it) and brackets already exist for it making it super quick and easy to get us up and running again. Also, regarding a truss, we very much wanted to install one but the DTD and air bumps just took up way too much real estate to make it possible or at least, not without having to do a lot of custom work. Needless to say, we just wanted to get up and running again and will most likely look into selling what we have now and moving over to something else in the future.
@@wayalife All really good points 👍
Agreed Currie fabbed(TT Axle is the next step if you push that JT any harder)
When we go trailing arm we’re swapping to those but it is even more invasive surgery on the rig.
Just an off topic question, Eddie what do you think about Portal axles for the Jeep. Like 74 Welds?
Serious question here - are you looking for my honest opinion or just confirmation regarding something you're wanting to buy?
Will you go back to pro rock 60s after this one breaks
No. If anything, we'd really like to run a set of Currie fab 9's.
Awesome work! Now, when are you gonna stop messin around and get that LT4 swap? 😁
LOL - this needed to happen before a new motor. Needless to say, it is time to start working on it :)
Had you thought of trussing the new one?
Of course. Unfortunately, the DTD brackets just take up way too much real estate on the housing to make it happen or at least, not without having to redo everything with custom ones. And, that wasn't in the budget.
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What budget brand of a lift kit you recommend for a jeep Gladiator with 37 tires on mind daily use
It really is hard to go wrong with Rancho when it comes to a budget friendly lift amzn.to/3RHq04B
Maybe you need spidertrax axle on your next build, or 14 bolt from craneaxle
We were thinking more Currie 9 but yes, something made for a bit more speed.
what a great Job they did, and the man can sure weld. don't know if I said before, but brother you got one BAD A$$ Gladiator. also don't take so long to post videos I need my Wayalife fix. 😂
Thank you and we do apologize for the delay in getting a video up.
Do you think this would have happened if you put your in Dynatrac axles instead?
Hard to say for sure but in my experience, everything breaks and I have seen and have personally broken a Dynatrac axle doing other things. The real problem here is that our new rear trailing arms is allowing us to drive way faster than our front DTD was designed for. Tweaks to it would probably help more than a different axle.
Why not run a built 14 bolt or 05+ super duty Dana 60?
Not sure why they would be better but really, the main reason why we decided to go UD60 again is because it was readily available, somewhat affordable for what it is and DTD brackets currently exist for it so install is faster and easier.
Why do you opt for the Dana UD 60 versus other manufacturers?
Good question. We had seriously considered moving over to a Currie fabricated 9 which would be a much better fit for what we're doing with this Jeep but that would have required new gears, custom brackets and a whole ton of work. Sticking with the UD60 made for a much quicker, easier and cheaper fix. But, in the future, we may upgrade to Currie.
Why did you not go with Dynatrac axles?
Originally, because we've always run Dynatrac axles and wanted to test something else. This time around, because I didn't want to wait half a year or more to get one, a UD60 is more affordable and brackets are made for it making install cheaper and easier. That said, everything breaks or at least, that's what I have seen over the last 2 decades and even with Dynatrac.
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The filter is located in the gas tank. It is part of the sending unit.
I don’t know if you have already addressed this if you have it, maybe in a future video why did you stick with the same brand of axle if you have already bent and broken one
I have addressed it and will again. What we really want to be running is something a lot better like a Currie 9. However, that would require us to run a different rear as well and that was not in the budget. Having run ProRocks in the past and still run them on Moby, I can tell you first hand they're great axles but I'm not sure they would have faired any better for the kind of abuse we put this axle through. That said, the UD60 was readily available, this as opposed to having to wait half a year or more for a different axle, they are relatively affordable, we could get it with the same gear ratio as what we're running in the rear and maybe most importantly, EVO makes brackets for it and so install is a lot faster and easier. Ultimately, we may still try to upgrade in the future to Currie 9s.
No truss? I feel like even a slim one would help with how y’all romp this thing
A truss would have been a good idea and we really tried to make it happen but the DTD and air bumps just took up way too much real estate on the axle and there was no way to make it work. Or at least, not without doing a lot of custom work. That said, I think a different axle is what we really need to be running.
Any advice or reviews on a 21 Sierra 4xe?
Is there something in particular you're wanting to know?
@@wayalife capabilities as hybrid if doing light trail rides, and if it compares to the non hybrid counterpart? Pros and cons of it on trails, etc.
@parrbill1 The pros is that the electric side of the Jeep has a lot of torque. The cons is that the battery is very big and heavy and there are cooler lines on the frame rail that can be damaged. Otherwise, they do about the same in terms of performace.
@@wayalife thank you
Any chance it was under any kind of warranty !!??
Unfortunately, no. But then, I wouldn't expect it to be. I should note that I really don't think this would be a problem that a vast majority of people will ever see and in a big way, I don't think it's something we'll see again.
Did Dana correct the issue or will it happen to the new axle?! Real expensive fix unless you got warranty!
No, this wasn't a warranty axle and yes, it cost us a lot to replace it. That said, there really isn't an issue for Dana to correct and if we keep playing as hard as we were - as in, driving stupid fast over really big whoops, it's very possible that we'll break it again. Granted, there are a few things we're hoping to do like make some modifications to our front DTD to help things out. Otherwise, we may have to sell our current axles and rethink what to run.
You do play hard! I can only dream of having that much fun with my Gladiator!!
How long did that take?
Well, we've had the axle about 3 years and punished it as hard as we could and it held up great! However, after installing trailing arms, the front just couldn't keep up with the rear. ruclips.net/video/IsvqYIJMEtg/видео.html
I’m sure someone asked but did you think about putting a trust on the new axle? Please say hi to Cindy.
Hey my friend, yes, we very much wanted to add a truss and had one all ready to go. Unfortunately, the DTD brackets and air bump pads just took up way too much real estate on the axle to make it happen or at least, not without doing a LOT of custom work. At that point, we'd rather swap out our axle for something like a currie 9. Cindy says hello and we hope to see you again soon.
Thank god I went with Curry.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to be running a Currie 9 but if you're talking about a rock jock 60, I don't think it would have held up any better for what we were doing to break this.
Spicy!
Second time around. should have put a truss on it?
Yeah, that would have helped a lot and we really tried to make it happen but the DTD and air bump just took up way too much real estate on the axle and there was no way to make it work. Or at least, not without making a bunch of custom brackets. That said, I think a different axle is what we really need to be running.
@@wayalife As in Dynatrax or such? They have more beef and heard they don't need a truss. With that much tire you need a huge axle or a truss. Anyone always enjoy your content! Look forward to seeing the progress
@nicholasbaldwin1674 No, more like a fabricated 9 like the kind that Currie makes. Don't get me wrong, I have personally run multiple ProRock 44's, an XD60, still run a ProRock 60 and ProRock 80 and they are great axles that I like a lot. But, for what we're doing with this Jeep, I don't think they would have held up any better.
Why not another pro rock???
Obviously, ProRocks are great axles and we love the ones we have on Moby. That said, it is my opinion that the break we had was more from our original front DTD system not being able to keep up with our new EVO trailing arm system over stupid big whoops and at crazy fast speeds. If anything, something like a Currie 9 is what we would have wanted to replace our front axle with but that would have also required us to replace our rear axle and that wasn't something we were prepared to do at this time. Since our rear UD60 is still holding up well and being that a new UD60 front axle was readily available (didn't have to wait over half a year to get) and that brackets were already made for it and of course, that it's more affordable all were reasons why we decided to just install another... for now anyway.
Now……maybe a AMW swap? 426 maybe? I know you are an LS guy but AMW in that thing would be sick!
Actually, we've swapped our LS for an LT in Moby and that's what we're hoping to do with this Jeep too.
I would still run a truss front and rear.
The rear has a truss thanks to the trailing arms. A front truss is something we really wanted to add but the DTD and air bump brackets just took up way too much real estate to make it happen or at least, not without having to do a lot of custom work. And for that, we'd rather spend that kind of time and money on something like a Currie 9
The best fix for a UD60 is to swap it out with a Dynatrac ProRockXD60.
Having run an XD60, I'd have to disagree. For the kind of abuse we put our last axle through, I think we'd need to run a fabricated 9 like the kind that Currie makes.
Jeremy! Orientate is not a word! Orient is the one you needed, just orient 😂
It sounded good in my head 😂
When in doubt, swap them out.
LOL - that's about right 😁
should have gone Currie.
would love to have installed a currie fab 9. Unfortunately, that would have required a new rear axle as well.
@@wayalife yep best to match them but I love their High Pinion design. can't afford them at 10K per axle but they are awesome.
Not even a matter of best to match, you have to match. The 9's run different gear ratios. Could have gone with a 60 but I don't think it would have held up any better.
I still cant believe that broke
Everything breaks or at least, that's what I have seen over the last 25+ years.