My New Favorite Keyboard! |Studiologic SL88 Studio Review!|

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @Johnmike
    @Johnmike  4 года назад +18

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    • @miltonsaucedo2223
      @miltonsaucedo2223 4 года назад +1

      Thanks for all your videos. I have learned more about useful gear from you than any other channel by fAr!!. One question plz. Do you think one can become a competent pianist for church type genre, if all he has is a semi-weighted keyboard (not fully weighted)? Also, I have watched all your other videos, and you really like the maudio keystation es 49, you have said it’s your favorite, but in a comparison video you said the novation launchkey has the best Keybed... so can you become a decent/competent pianist(for church genre music) with synth keys? And is there any controller or keyboard south of $300 that has a better keybed then the novation launchkey or m audio keystation? Thanks a lot!

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад +2

      @@miltonsaucedo2223 I grew up learning how to play in church using only semi-weighted keyboards! My first keyboard was a Casio(battery operated version no velocity sensitivity at all!) and then I got a Yamaha SY88(semi-weighted board) and then a Roland XP30 then a Korg N264 so on and so forth but all of these were semi-weighted boards...I actually didn't play my first weighted keyboard(RD-500) until I was about 16-17 years old(been playing since I was 9 or 10) So while playing on weighted keyboards can help with your "Feel" of playing piano...it's not necessary...but to answer your other question...I love the Native Instruments A61...but there are still some in this price range that I haven't tried yet...but one Im interested in getting and trying out soon is the Roland A49...it's $200 and I've heard great things about it...but I'll hopefully try it out soon!

    • @miltonsaucedo2223
      @miltonsaucedo2223 4 года назад

      John Mike thank you very much,that is really insightful! That helps a lot! I’ll check out the native keyboard.

    • @kensteckelberg7013
      @kensteckelberg7013 4 года назад

      Hi Mike. Is this the Grand Hammer version or the other one. I know there are 2 models. One is around $499 and the Grand Hammer is over $800. I’m curious as to how the Grand Hammer version feels and plays. My Arturia 88 with the Fatar keybed feels amazing but the keys are a little noisy. Can you review the Grand version of this board? Thanks again!

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад +2

      Ken Steckelberg I will try to get my hands on one soon

  • @Williamk492
    @Williamk492 3 года назад +3

    I just want to mention that the info about the two ports having to be SL Studio port 2 made it super easy for my to set up my device. I send you a big thank you from cold and rainy Belgium 🇧🇪👍🏻

  • @miljantoto
    @miljantoto 4 года назад +13

    I agree with everything you said JM, I have SL88 STUDIO for 3 Years and it is an absolutely amazing MIDI controller. My favorite keybed Fatar TP100 LR. I am glad that you fall in love with this incredible piece of gear, especially if we know how many instruments and Midi controllers have gone through your studio and your video reviews.
    In Every VST the instrument you'll have a magic feeling, believe me.

    • @Lalairu
      @Lalairu 4 года назад

      Hi Miljan. I've been searching about weighted midi keyboards and I've seend that some people complained about the keys getting really noisy. Did you have any trouble after some time?

    • @miljantoto
      @miljantoto 4 года назад +5

      @@Lalairu No, From the first day all keys are quiet.....and much better than 1st gen Arturia Keylab 88 , although both models share the same Fatar keys TP100 LR. It's just that Studiologic took everything a lot more serious than Arturia's 1st gen Keylab 88, which is noisy, Velocity Curve is worse than that of SL88 STUDIO, even the color is removed by itself From Arturia!!!!!!..... and much more expensive than SL88. Native Instrument KK S88 has the same keys....but NI is 3 times more expensive, because Soft Integration and Displays....SL88 Studio is great....

  • @NlineMusick
    @NlineMusick 4 года назад +14

    I’ve had this board since February, 2018 and it is HANDS DOWN THEE ABSOLUTE BEST 88 key controller in its price range‼️ Around the time I purchased it, no one had it available to physically play but I seen Anomalie playing one in his videos (if you know who he is, then you know it’s a quality controller). The board has still held up and in fact, I went on to purchase the 73 key version. Same keybed and it fits in a 61 key keyboard case, yes a 73 key board fits in a 61 key keyboard case. 😱 All my friends who play it, love the keybed too‼️

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад +6

      Anomalie is one of my favorite board players hands down!

    • @JCox964
      @JCox964 4 года назад +2

      NlineMusick I own the SL73 & love it & also own a Roland A88 as well!!!!💯

  • @darthvalkyr
    @darthvalkyr 4 года назад +8

    Got one of these about 9 months ago. Great bit of kit. Love the customisation options in the software, great feeling keys and a whole world of possibilities through MIDI and DAWs. Got it to start learning piano properly and would thoroughly recommend it to anybody who doesn't need a standalone instrument.

    • @ciararespect4296
      @ciararespect4296 3 года назад

      How do you get speakers for it ?

    • @darthvalkyr
      @darthvalkyr 3 года назад +1

      @@ciararespect4296 MIDI keyboards need a PC/ laptop and a DAW software program to produce sound. But the variety of instrument plugins for DAWs means they are extremely versatile and infinitely customisable.

    • @nwb3
      @nwb3 2 года назад

      @@darthvalkyr Would you say it feels similar to an actual piano?

    • @darthvalkyr
      @darthvalkyr 2 года назад

      @@nwb3 I can’t really advise on that. I haven’t properly played an actual piano in over 20 years and my skills were very limited back then. It does feel pretty nice. If you want the closest real piano feel that they do then maybe the SL88 Grand by Studiologic as it has wooden keys and proper weighted hammer action. More on the pricey side though.

    • @nwb3
      @nwb3 2 года назад

      @@darthvalkyr Ok thanks

  • @brians1025
    @brians1025 4 года назад +4

    Own it... Love it! I've been using it in my studio (only, not for any gigs) for about 2 years. It really is pound for pound one of the best midi pianos out there. Now, I'm gonna get the Studiologic Numa Compact 2 for the internal sounds and for gigs. Thanks for the video! 😎🎶

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад +1

      Yup that’s on my list too!

  • @cubilasdotcom
    @cubilasdotcom 2 года назад +4

    Another great video John! I also had the MAudio hammer 88 but found it too heavy for what I was doing. After lugging around my Roland fp-2 piano for years to use as a MIDI controller, I was glad to find the SL73 open-box for $350. There’s nothing like real hammer action on a great keybed. Keep it real my friend !

  • @savizzlekeys
    @savizzlekeys 11 месяцев назад +1

    Demonstration of the joystick has most likely convinced me to get this. Grew up using joystick style synths and acoustic pianos. I’ll probably get the sl73 for gigs.

  • @Hamfantasy56
    @Hamfantasy56 4 года назад +4

    I own its predecessor: the Acuna 88 which is a beautiful master kb, with a perfect piano action..they spend a lot of time in the research of a perfect piano key mechanism simulation, and made a few patents from their projects

  • @aeiplanner
    @aeiplanner 4 года назад +4

    Ever since I had and (recklessly/foolishly) sold my SL990 I realized that shopping for a keboard is actually shopping for a keybed. You can spend $5K on a NORD Stage 2 or you can buy a Studiologic and take it apart. The only problems with Studiologic is that you will have issues with velocity inconsistencies, so you need to do your own programming.

  • @thkeyboardsounds
    @thkeyboardsounds 2 года назад +1

    I'm using the SL73 since end of 2020 as second board for my Yamaha Modx 6. I like this combination.

  • @michaelcallahan2149
    @michaelcallahan2149 4 года назад +3

    I have the grand, it has never left my home. I must say, support is very poor if you have a problem. Unless you live in the LA area you will be forced to ship it to them(at your cost) to get any warranty work done. I am 5 weeks out just for new compass to get a new control board since mine decided to crap out randomly. I decided it was easier to buy the new control board rather than spend money and time on a hard case and shipping.

  • @estevancarlos
    @estevancarlos 3 года назад +1

    Just picked this up. Thanks for this video. This keyboard feels amazing.

  • @Lalairu
    @Lalairu 4 года назад +5

    I was considering to buy this one, so I could learn to play the piano and more. I can't afford two keyboards so I need something that has "both worlds". I was considering a Yamaha P45 until I began to be interested in synths xD now I need everything, and this one seems perfect. thank you for your reviews John, I bought the Korg microkey 37 months ago because your reviews helped me, it helped me to begin learning how to use DAWs and such. How does the Rhodes emulation sound? It's my fav electric piano.

  • @tommidd8042
    @tommidd8042 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you. I need a how to SL88 for dummies. LOL. I have the keyboard, still trying to figure it out. At least I'm having fun playing Unify from Plugin Guru.

  • @Crobisaur
    @Crobisaur 3 года назад

    picked one of these up to finally have something to practice piano technique as well as have full size hammer action keys. looking forward to enjoying this thing!

  • @patchua485
    @patchua485 2 года назад +1

    Because of your great detailed review, I chose the SL88 Studio purchase for our church back in 2020 and always had it since!
    Go John Mike!
    #omnispheresoundgroup

  • @bitmaster2000
    @bitmaster2000 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for your honest review man. It's a fantastic keyboard.

  • @JoseRojas-kv7kv
    @JoseRojas-kv7kv 4 года назад

    Thanks for taking the time to review this keyboard, it has been very useful for me you have earned a like and a new subscriber to your channel.

  • @boogiefunkproductions2368
    @boogiefunkproductions2368 4 года назад +10

    I got custom cherrywood cheeks made for mine, it looks really nice.

    • @chunkhutchinson
      @chunkhutchinson 4 года назад +4

      Where did you get the cheeks made please? Id love some for mine

  • @JCox964
    @JCox964 4 года назад +3

    Hey John, Thx much for Demi this product. Been waiting for you to for quite some time. I bought the SL73 mid 2019 & love it. I store this n my 61 bag. I also have my Roland A88 as well n my home studio. The SL-73 , I use it for gig purposes.. Again , thx so much!!! 👍🏽

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад

      A88 is on the list to check out soon as well...

  • @boogiefunkproductions2368
    @boogiefunkproductions2368 4 года назад +1

    I got the SL88 Grand 2 years ago for $450, it was a steal. They wanted 350 additional for shipping so I just drove up to LA to pick it up. By far the best controller i've ever used. Wooden weighted keys, beautiful key-bed!

    • @PeterPrism
      @PeterPrism 3 года назад +1

      The price now is double. Why?

    • @jakeandrew333
      @jakeandrew333 Год назад +1

      @@PeterPrism its not! its $499 right now

    • @PeterPrism
      @PeterPrism Год назад +1

      @@jakeandrew333 after 2 years price is drop! 😀 I have a studiologic numa compact 2x now 😂😂😂

    • @jakeandrew333
      @jakeandrew333 Год назад +1

      @@PeterPrism hahah gotcha! I’m debating on which one right now, but I’m the not the best at all with like software and stuff so I’m leaning towards the hammer just cause it’ll be easy to set up! But I do like the sl studio better I think so idk

  • @ranjuk
    @ranjuk 3 года назад +2

    I have the SL88 and had to get this repaired due to noisy keys as it was under warranty. However the problem has re occurred after a couple months of use, however I’m out of warranty! Might try the Grand as reviews are pretty decent!

  • @shedroids
    @shedroids 4 года назад +2

    John Mike you play so beautifully!

  • @robynmiles31
    @robynmiles31 4 года назад

    This was very informative. I have the Hammer 88 and was curious. Can’t wait to try this one.

  • @VadimShinnik
    @VadimShinnik 3 года назад

    Friends! Racking my head between SL Studio and Grand. SL Studio is pleasant to the touch, but over time it will become easier, I actually saw this TP100 with my own eyes and keyboard masters and there is a lot of fluidity like Vaseline, so it feels tougher than SL GRAND, but lighter in weight. I played on the old MIDI Studiologic SL-990 Pro there TP40 GH - I really liked it, it still works without any problems.
    The fact is that the SL Grand now costs about $ 800. But there are a lot of bad reviews about the keyboard itself ... but at the same time, it is positioned as a keyboard of the premium segment. OK. We have a purely $ 1000 Doepfer PK88 GH without Case keyboard and are praised as one of the most reliable and indestructible keyboards around.
    A reasonable question: Maybe in SL Grand (Fatar TP40 Wood) the quality of parts is worse than on Doepfer (TP40 GH) since there is such a difference in price + considering the reviews? This is my dilemma.

  • @hectortorres9126
    @hectortorres9126 4 года назад +2

    John, I really liked the keyboard and wanted to love it. The keybed was a tad bit on the hard side. Unfortunately, within a month, B5 started sticking. I returned it and swapped it for something else. I wish the Fatar 100 was more reliable.

  • @angelgimenez2452
    @angelgimenez2452 3 года назад

    Thank you very much for such a well explained review!!

  • @Williamk492
    @Williamk492 3 года назад

    Nice review and explanation. Subscribed! 👍🏻

  • @MrWorldclassmusician
    @MrWorldclassmusician 3 года назад

    Bought one because of your reviews. Hope the feel is what you say it is bro! Thanks

  • @galastar257
    @galastar257 4 года назад +3

    I would recommend anyone to try this before you buy. I had the 73 key version of this, and found the key action very, very heavy. I also struggled with the software setting it up, but once you get your head around it works fine but also make sure you switch it on in the right order. I ended up selling it because of the action. In contrast the other keyboards I have had before, during or since having the SL73 (SL-880 Pro, Korg SV1, Yamaha CP4 & Yamaha CP73) have all been far superior in key feel.

    • @extraawesomestudios
      @extraawesomestudios 4 года назад +1

      I agree with you on this - the action is extremely heavy. My problem with it is - when trying to play softly, the key will "bounce" off the switch. There are software fixes to the "short-long" sound this makes; however, you still feel the key bounce and it throws me off. I can't get used to it.

  • @keysbymo944
    @keysbymo944 4 года назад +9

    When i first got mine, my knuckles were sore for a month. Now my hands are stronger than ever and cant see myself ever going back.

    • @Lalairu
      @Lalairu 3 года назад

      Any issues with the keys after 9 months?

    • @keysbymo944
      @keysbymo944 3 года назад

      @@Lalairu funny you asked . The middle C is intermittently cutting out. I have warranty service scheduled for tomorrow.
      This is after me playing it nearly everyday since Oct 2019

    • @Lalairu
      @Lalairu 3 года назад

      @@keysbymo944 are you happy still? I was also considering a Korg b2

    • @keysbymo944
      @keysbymo944 3 года назад

      @@Lalairu the B2 is an actual digital piano . The SL88 is a MIDI controller. No built in sounds or speakers . Apples and Oranges there.

    • @Lalairu
      @Lalairu 3 года назад

      @@keysbymo944 yeah but I believe you can use the Korg as a controller too. 😶

  • @PaulsonJeanty
    @PaulsonJeanty 4 года назад +1

    *I glad you talked about this one.*

  • @craigsimmons6328
    @craigsimmons6328 4 года назад +1

    I have this keyboard and I love it.well made and a real bargain

  • @brandoncrenshaw
    @brandoncrenshaw 4 года назад +4

    You gotta try the studio grand. That feel is ridiculous! But the old school Roland a-88 is my favorite keybed ever. Hopefully you get to review the A88 mk2.

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад +1

      Brandon Forte' it’s on the list!

    • @AGAU1022
      @AGAU1022 4 года назад

      Roland actions are amazing even at entry level. Unfortunately the A-88 is too long for my 3-tier stand. 88 keys AND the controls are to the left of the keys! I don't understand why they won't put the controls in the middle above the keys except for tradition. If they aren't going to do that I wish they would at least put the same action in a 73 or 64 key midi board. Until then the Studiologic 88 Grand looks like the better option for me when I have the money. More keys than I need but at least the controls are above the keys so I can fit it in my set up. Also I believe the Grand has wooden keys whereas the A-88 keys at plastic? Not that that matters to me if it's weighted and graded.

  • @lemmystop
    @lemmystop 4 года назад

    I got it and put it back in the box after 10 minutes. I exchanged it for the SL88 GRAND. I love the way it feels.

    • @VadimShinnik
      @VadimShinnik 3 года назад

      Hello) Why? Such a big difference? Can you describe please!

  • @howinteresting2
    @howinteresting2 2 года назад +2

    I got a SL73 with shorter keyboard but the same construction. The keys and programmable aspects are great for DAW use, but the three sloppy miniature joysticks are useless and too fiddly - there's no friction or feel.
    They need to be stiffer and longer - or include a couple of big edge control knobs or instead all controls as long sliders, but as least 2. I may have to modify....

  • @DopamineOverload
    @DopamineOverload 4 года назад +5

    This is the same keybed as the Nord Stage 2 EX76 HP and the Stage 3 76HP, right? From what I read, TP100LR is the keybed on all. Thanks, John Mike!

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад +1

      I believe so

    • @JCox964
      @JCox964 4 года назад

      Wowww... Great info

  • @tracymb9505
    @tracymb9505 3 года назад

    Ok I Bought but yes I got all mixed up on the sewt up... But Its Soooo...good to see you with it ...Wow! Thanks for the insight...

  • @GNeuman
    @GNeuman 3 года назад

    Another excellent review. Thank you.

  • @jacksonsimbiak798
    @jacksonsimbiak798 4 года назад +7

    In terms of value, nothing else could beat this controler in its price range. Hands down.

    • @AGAU1022
      @AGAU1022 4 года назад +1

      Who needs 88 keys on a MIDI controller though? If I needed a controller and didn't want or couldn't afford the fully weighted [edit: and graded] keys on the Studiologic Grand, I'd just get the 73 key version of this which is even better value imo.

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад +5

      Alec as a piano player, I prefer a midi controller with 88 keys...but also for those that gig or play at churches...so many possibilities with an 88-key controller...now if you are just a BeatMaker and you just need to play a few chords then any 49 or 61 key controller will do

    • @AGAU1022
      @AGAU1022 4 года назад

      @@Johnmike Yeah but my issue is I love realistic graded piano actions, but don't need more than 73 keys when I have an octave shifter. I don't think there is a single keyboard out there with a graded action that has less than 88 keys. I don't mind having 88 but not worth the extra money for me if I'm not getting a better action than on the 73. I believe the 88 Studio has the same action as the 73.

    • @Lee-sf4fv
      @Lee-sf4fv 4 года назад +1

      @@AGAU1022 Try the Roland RD64, hard to find maybe but a wonderful option and excellent weighted action on 64 keys! For me 64 is not enough and onlybreasin I did not buy. May be the only option with a small keyboard and weighted keys not sure.

    • @AGAU1022
      @AGAU1022 4 года назад

      @@Lee-sf4fv You're right. I forgot about that one! When I was trying to buy one I couldn't find one available online. I think it probably is the only one. At the moment I have a 73 key board that is weighted but not graded. I probably will get an 88 key graded midi controller like the StudioLogic Grand if I ever have enough money. Just not worth the extra money for me at the moment especially if the action is not graded. I actually do prefer more keys than less keys for at home use, as long as the mod wheels won't be further away as a result, and as long as it is not longer than 51 inches, but for many people not worth the extra money, space and weight.

  • @sarbaazchabahar
    @sarbaazchabahar 4 года назад +2

    Looks and sounds good. Lets see after 2 years.🎹✌👍

  • @aris9125
    @aris9125 4 месяца назад

    @Johnmike can you help me...i connect my SL88 Studio with a 3 meter long USB cable using Kontakt and it keeps disconnecting after a while (not power off but no sound) had to switch off and back on to continue making sounds...i'm on Win11 and USB power savings are off on all regards. Still can't find what's wrong with my SL88. It happens on AC powered or USB powered as well.

  • @federicosantiagojr.4085
    @federicosantiagojr.4085 6 месяцев назад

    Hi! Peace be with you. Can I control my Yamaha Motif ES Rack with this board? Change and pick sounds and change parameters with the SL software. Thanks in advance for your reply.

  • @dearkokum
    @dearkokum 17 дней назад

    How do i actually load sounds into the SL Editor?! It's so basic but i just cant figure it out. Plays like a regular MiDI controller out the DAW but loading up these patches?! Cant figure out how to do jt

  • @ChrisCadenhead
    @ChrisCadenhead 4 года назад +2

    Nice one! Love this board! My only gripe is with the weird midi out when using external keyboards. Sumn funky goin on

  • @WarrenPostma
    @WarrenPostma 4 года назад

    Definitely want to see you Spice this baby up. I think it would be cool if you could do a wrap on the back of the board, so it had some cool "JM" theme on it. If this were mine I think I'd go for a military green look, paint it in a matte finish, and then take my beloved BeatStep Pro and also military green it out.

  • @k88keyzk
    @k88keyzk 3 года назад +3

    Do prefer this one of the Grand Version. I heard hey have different key beds which could make a difference with “players”

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  3 года назад +2

      Not yet

    • @revp01
      @revp01 3 года назад +2

      @@Johnmike The Studio version of this board uses Fatar TP100 keybed which is the same as the Arturia Lab88, Kurz Forte SE. The studio logic controller versions is seated better than the others. BUT, the Grand version of this board has the BEST weighted keybed. It uses the Fatar TP-40 Wood, which is used on Nord Stage and Kurz Forte. Studiologic seated there's a bit better. It's not as heavy as Yamaha's weighted keybeds but not as light as the Nords. Feels more solid than Roland RD2000 & Korg SV2. hope this helps.

  • @LegendaryMike
    @LegendaryMike 4 года назад

    Definitely looking forward to the second version of the JM88

  • @ArlisaSThomas
    @ArlisaSThomas 4 года назад +2

    I had this board for about 3 or for years and it is definitely a great board. When I first bought it the software was new and software was buggy and didn’t work like it should so I gave up on it because I didn’t need it for my purposes. I only got rid of it because I wanted to board wit internal sounds as a backup when my computer would act up.

  • @kenrickhadley4499
    @kenrickhadley4499 Год назад

    Very,Very,Very helpful.

  • @mikelowhorn8146
    @mikelowhorn8146 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for the great review! It's been instrumental (pun intended) in helping me to make a decision. I do have a couple of questions: First, what is the benefit of a MIDI IN jack on a controller? Secondly, if the SL Editor software supplants the hardware control knob on the device, is the control knob only for live performance? Thanks again!

  • @kebabs9106
    @kebabs9106 4 месяца назад

    Hello,
    I'm very new to MIDi software and controlers. Is this conectable to Logic Pro, as I'm planning to get sound from my headphones/speakers that are connected to Logic Pro on my Macbook. Thanks!

  • @janklas7079
    @janklas7079 10 месяцев назад

    Since I bought this keyboard, should arrive today, i wonder. I hear a lot of people talk about it is heavy playing. Also the Grand has a different keybed whis is graded. The heaviest key on the grand is about the same as every key on the studio.
    This leads me to believe it should be possible to grade it yourself DIY. It would only involve removing weigt from keys.
    Or am I thinking too simple?
    In the dr mix tour they show the grand has a notch somewhere which makes the 'grand' effect. It might be possible to DIY this yourself on the Studio?

  • @CalvinLimuel
    @CalvinLimuel 2 года назад

    2:20 StudioLogic actually has SL 88 Grand which is their top-of-the-line keybed (TP/40WOOD Graded Hammer Action with Ivory Touch)

  • @michelleparsons9881
    @michelleparsons9881 Год назад

    Nice! I'm looking for a nice MIDI keyboard. Can you load D50 and DX7 sounds into it from the VST program?

  • @samsonbabatola1484
    @samsonbabatola1484 2 года назад +1

    Got one today , connected the Sl editor but still wouldn’t produce any sound
    Can anyone tell me how to setup the audio ?

  • @aris9125
    @aris9125 6 месяцев назад

    Hi @Johnmike...i bought the Amazing SL88 Studio because of this video and so far so good, apart from...and i hope you can help me a bit here...i cannot seem to send all 127 velocity to Kontakt for any of my Libraries...How come? the harder i press or stroke a key, i can't seem to reach 127...for most i got it to 124...Thanks...Sorry for my Bad English!

  • @TheKaroaker
    @TheKaroaker 4 года назад +1

    Would you go this over the Komplete s88 Mk2?

    • @erichughes3987
      @erichughes3987 3 года назад

      These are two totally different price brackets. s88 has way more features, and definitely go for it if you got the $$ and use Native Instrument stuff. If you just want a solid controller and want to save the $$, go with this.

  • @music-sq5nb
    @music-sq5nb 4 года назад +2

    Hey John I'm trying to pick between the Studiologic SL88 Studio S-Series and the Arturia KeyLab 88 MkII . What do you recommend? I'm interested to learn classical,jazz music , which is closer to the real piano . I'm not interested controls or software which feels more real

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад +1

      It’s the SAME keybed in both of those...that’s why I went with the SL88 because it was the same feel as the Arturia for half the price

    • @music-sq5nb
      @music-sq5nb 4 года назад

      Thank you@@Johnmike

  • @estebangpuga
    @estebangpuga 2 года назад

    John Mike hi! I have a Yamaha P45 USB MIDI which I use as a MIDI controller with a Macbook Pro 2019, Ableton Live and NI Noire... I'm not happy with the overall response of it (maybe Noire is the problem?) also I feel a little bit of latency. I want to travel and tour with the piano so do you think it will be better the SL 88?

  • @sojimani7616
    @sojimani7616 3 года назад +1

    Thank You sir for this video.

  • @gianfrixmg
    @gianfrixmg 4 года назад +2

    Damn, first the Keylab 88 Essential, then the SL88! You're reading my mind about the controllers I'm targeting lol
    I'd love to see a long term review of both!
    Fun fact: Studiologic is actually a FATAR owned company! So you're basically getting the keybed from the manufacturing source.

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад +1

      Ahhhhh now it makes sense!

  • @jeffreyhayes5519
    @jeffreyhayes5519 3 года назад

    Great Video and Info!

  • @jbridguk
    @jbridguk 4 года назад +2

    Hi JM. Highly recommended the magnetic computer plate to go with it and the official SL softcase. Thanks for endorsing this great keyboard. One thing I wonder about having this for a while is occasionally I get notes that kind of mute instead of ringing out. Not sure if it's my sustain pedal technique or its key bounce. After you have played for a good while would be pleased to know your thoughts. Best regards

    • @idek8381
      @idek8381 4 года назад +2

      I have this problem as well, I think it’s key bounce and creates a double input which can be extremely frustrating when editing midi. I’ve been trying to find a fix but have found nothing on it.

    • @jbridguk
      @jbridguk 4 года назад

      @@idek8381 Yes, I have found this esp. with Keyscape. I move the note and find the double input underneath and delete. But also with Logic/Keyscape I find that sometimes if the recorded note is too short then on playback it doesn't ring out even though the sustain pedal is down. I have to make the note a little longer. Really frustrating, esp as sometimes normal playback is ok and it's not until you bounce the track that the problem can be heard.

  • @anthonym.8646
    @anthonym.8646 3 года назад

    thanks for the awesome review! - the Arturia 88 MKII also has a Fatar Keybed and looks like they both use the TP/100LR so i guess it comes down to analog lab/daw control?

  • @wilkopiano
    @wilkopiano Год назад

    I have had one of these for a while. However there is an annoying problem that i cant seem to resolve. When you first power on the unit it doesnt load your altered default preset 1 for your custom velocity curve. You have to choose your patch after powering on which i sometimes forget to do. Do you have this problem with yours?

  • @dazquez
    @dazquez Год назад

    How would you plug an audio interface into this. Or is it better to keep usb to computer

  • @_adelac
    @_adelac 2 года назад

    hi I bought the sl88 studio keyboard today and I have a problem, when I want to play the last notes of the keyboard, from the F of the last octave, the keyboard does not send midi signals and therefore does not sound, any solution? Thank you

  • @furmc
    @furmc 5 месяцев назад

    Have you tried the Studiologic Numa Compact 2X?

  • @DougGray-xf3hz
    @DougGray-xf3hz 4 года назад

    Thanks for reviewing the Studio keyboard, I have one (18 months) and love it. I've been disappointed that the SL88 Grand is frequently demonstrated and critiqued on RUclips and the Studio totally overlooked. I thought I had bought the second class version and was about to go out and trial the Grand to find out if I has missed something until the CV lock down halted that.
    The triple sensor allows great articulation but demands good technique.
    I use it exclusively with my iPad running the Colossus Piano app with their best piano and Steinberg UR22 mkII interface, these give an amazing piano audio sound.
    Highly recommended!

  • @HurveyJones
    @HurveyJones 2 года назад

    Hey John I have a question that I have been trying to figure out for 2 weeks.
    I first appreciate your video! My question is I use Ableton live, and I can't seem to program the midi controller to change the sounds, but also, when I use Mixcraft, it automatically maps and I'm able to select different sounds and change the volume from the midi controller. Can you help with this? Thanks

  • @theblackjackchannel1082
    @theblackjackchannel1082 4 года назад +1

    Amazing review man.
    If It happens that you have a Roland fp10 at hand please make a review of it because it costs as much as this keyboard and i heard It has an amazing keybed and also built in sounds so you can use it both as a piano and as a midi controller

    • @AGAU1022
      @AGAU1022 4 года назад +1

      The action on the FP-10 is amazing. It actually felt better than their more expensive models to me, but maybe that is because it was brand new and the others are older. However, bear in mind that it doesn't have pitch bend or mod wheels (I believe) and only has one pedal input (and I'm not sure whether this pedal input can do continuous MIDI expression or just sustain). If you don't need those things, great. If you do need the wheels but not the peds, you could combine the FP-10 with a smaller midi controller that has mod wheels, like an M32, or something even smaller and cheaper. However, built-in sounds might not be worth it if you are always plugged into your computer anyway. The Roland A-88 has the same action (at least on paper) and is a dedicated midi controller, and the Grand version of the Studiologic is weighted and graded too.

    • @theblackjackchannel1082
      @theblackjackchannel1082 4 года назад

      @@AGAU1022 thanks a lot.
      Unfortunately in my country the Roland a88 and the studiologic sl88 grand cost double the price of the fp10 so they are not quite comparable and completely out of budget.
      The sl88 studio costs the same as the fp10( around 400 euros) and, if i've understood well, it has a sligtly worse action and does not include integrated sounds or speaker but has the pitch and mod wheel and more pedal options.
      Am I right?

    • @AGAU1022
      @AGAU1022 4 года назад

      @@theblackjackchannel1082 Yes correct, tho it depends if you like a more realistic graded piano action or don't mind an ungraded action. Some people prefer ungraded actions like on the Studio. I prefer graded.

  • @anderssundqvist
    @anderssundqvist 3 года назад

    Great review but how do you get it to work with Logic Pro?
    When setting up a new control surface It doesnt find it

  • @yvonnevierra2715
    @yvonnevierra2715 3 года назад

    I can't find any good Doc or video on how the SL editor gets its sounds. I have ableton live but not grasping how to get that referenced by the editor. Any recommendations? Btw...your vids are very good.

  • @Glenn11C
    @Glenn11C 6 месяцев назад

    Where/How are you getting your sounds?

  • @GNeuman
    @GNeuman 3 года назад

    Hi John.....Got my SL73 yesterday....Like the feel of my piano samples and going from a 61 note to 73 keyboard is great. But a bit disappointed that the stick will only allow one note of pitch bend up or down with my external h/w synths. I've calibrated the sticks as per the manual but can't find any way of increasing the pitch bend range. Have written to their tech support-. Am I missing something? Plus, I think the menu system absolutely sucks with those buttons, totally confusing....Greets...Mike

  • @petrus7977
    @petrus7977 3 года назад +1

    Awesome review man! 1 question: can you zone-split the keyboard so to assign different midi channels into each zone?

  • @faithindustries
    @faithindustries 4 года назад

    The custom board is definitely a great idea

  • @theirigcover3682
    @theirigcover3682 4 года назад

    Hi, how do you setup the velocity for Keyscape? I have the Studiologic SL73. Thanks for the advice

  • @boogybass
    @boogybass 3 года назад

    I just bought this keyboard, but trying to use something as simple as bringing the volume down from 127 does nothing. How do I make this work? And is there any other software would you recommend that makes great piano sounds? I have some, but nothing great.

  • @electricityofmind6300
    @electricityofmind6300 4 года назад

    how does it compare to komplete kontrol s88 mk2 when it comes to KEY FEEL? What are the best KEY FEEL midi keyboards/best-worst?

  • @gabrielpiano7
    @gabrielpiano7 4 года назад

    Yo lo compre hace 9 meses y me da problemas a los 8 minutos de prenderlo empiezan a salir rallitas en la pantalla asta tener muchas rallas internas a que se debe eso?

  • @joegrant413
    @joegrant413 3 года назад

    John Mike, I'm loving your channel! Would this keyboard be overkill for an iPad setup? Primarily I see myself using the iPad as a sound module, like you've done with the Korg module pro. Thanks

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! And Naa I wouldn’t think so...I would use it live with my iPad in a heartbeat

    • @joegrant413
      @joegrant413 3 года назад

      ​@@Johnmike Thanks for the reply! Cool. I'm not a piano player, but I do appreciate the feel of a good set of keys. And I do NOT use a DAW, use a Tascam Portastudio in my setup. Every now and think of getting something like an old Yamaha MOTIF. But I have a bunch a great bunch of iPad apps. I've thought about a KeyStep, but really prefer full-size keys and a good feel, and don't need the modular sequencing stuff.
      Anyway, it sounds like you're saying a StudioLogic would be worth it -- even just for iPad. If you have other tips or gear I should look at, let me know. See you!

  • @ChaseMusic87
    @ChaseMusic87 2 года назад

    Hey John. Does it have graded hammer keys?

  • @zdravkozdravka4313
    @zdravkozdravka4313 3 года назад

    Which keyboard better for pianist? This or sl Grand??

  • @damianrjames
    @damianrjames 3 года назад

    useful thanks, nice chops too! is the board sluggish and heavy as some have said?

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  3 года назад +1

      Thanks…depends on what your preference is…it’s definitely a heavy board

    • @damianrjames
      @damianrjames 3 года назад

      @@Johnmike thanks! i meant for songwriting piano, played as on real ivories... jazz chords etc...

  • @daniellopez1507
    @daniellopez1507 3 года назад

    Bro how feels this vs Casio CDP the cheaper one? What do U think? Greetings from Mexico.. there is a way to put the macbook base almost in the center to read my lyrics? GBU

  • @NlineMusick
    @NlineMusick 4 года назад +2

    Studio Logic “Grand” VS “Studio” comparison below directly from Fatar’s website.
    TP/40WOOD: Professional Grand Piano Keyboard. Wood Keys. Graded Hammer Action. The special sandwich design of the keys (Kostil® Wood and Kostil®) applied to the graded hammer action mechanism creates the right clonation of the Grand Piano. 88 keys, Dynamic rubber contacts, Monophonic Aftertouch available, Escpament Mechanical Touch Feeling.
    VS
    TP/100LR: Professional Digital Piano Keyboard.
    Through the development of a new kinematic force-scheme, the research and development of techno-polymer materials, determines a major strength of the key and more precision in its response. The musician therefore obtains a better dynamic control of the action applied on the key and on the hammer (Hyper Dynamic System®). The new PCB design improves the signal contact, increasing the dynamic range and the new connection system is supplied (Fast Connection System®).
    A special lock-in system (Support Block System®) allows to use the frame of the keybed as a support for mechanical parts, making easier the development of the final instrument.

    • @Lee-sf4fv
      @Lee-sf4fv 4 года назад +1

      Great keyboard I have been contemplating a good while to replace my Maudio pro 88 dinosaur.
      Question- I tried out a used Komplete S88 Mark 1 at Guitar Center (previous model from latest) and the keybed was amazing compared to most other major brands. The word out there is Studiologic makes the keybed for Komplete but very little info is given as to exact keybed model and when there is info it doesnt make much sense.
      Does the Studiologoc SL88 Studio have the same keybed as the Komplete S88 ? If not can you share any knowledge you may have?
      Thanks alot in advance.

    • @ChaseMusic87
      @ChaseMusic87 2 года назад

      So the sl88 studio doesnt have graded hammer keys?

  • @mikeyoung1191
    @mikeyoung1191 4 года назад

    Hey JM thanks for the video! Scrolling thru is the only way to call up patches?
    and it looks like you most likely would need a separate midi controller with sliders to control the volume of external modules and computer? Thx JM

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад

      Yup it is...well you can control them from the SL software...but yea having a nano Kontrol on the side would be a great addition

  • @julianvandenbrink2582
    @julianvandenbrink2582 2 года назад

    3:15 naaaah that’s not just you, I love the joysticks

  • @Lumios_UA
    @Lumios_UA 3 года назад +3

    Wonder how did it last over the months passed. There's a '6-month later" video for M-Audio Hammer 88. Would you mind making one for SL88 ?

    • @DavidGossettMusic
      @DavidGossettMusic 3 года назад

      Yeah, I would like to know what your long term review of the SL88 Studio is as well. I've been in the market for a hammer action midi keyboard and I almost bought the SL73, but I keep finding stories of these breaking or giving up 3-4 months in. I can't tell how much of it is legit issues, or how much of it is subjective opinions about the keybed.

    • @couchcamperTM
      @couchcamperTM 3 года назад +4

      @@DavidGossettMusic the issues are well known, not so well known is how to fix it at home without having to use the warranty every 5 months^^
      "Fatar TP/100LR on SL88 Studio- the sensors, disassembling, modification" is the video you want if you buy the SL88. Knowing this, I would still buy it. And a screwdriver.

    • @pikachu-hs5zz
      @pikachu-hs5zz 3 года назад

      @@couchcamperTM Lmaooo. How would you compare this to the Grand version though?

    • @couchcamperTM
      @couchcamperTM 3 года назад +1

      @@pikachu-hs5zz The Grand version has the more expensive keybed afaik, but it all comes down to how it has been built into the Grand. If they tried to save a Dollar on that one, too, it will have the same issues after a few months. I can't afford the Grand so I didn't check it out.

    • @pikachu-hs5zz
      @pikachu-hs5zz 3 года назад

      @@couchcamperTM you're so right. plus more expensive doesn't mean better imo. i tried the grand out in the music store and it feels even heavier than my proper piano, which i didn't like but i guess that depends on each individual player. so i'll probably get the studio. thanks!

  • @yprawirasoetisna
    @yprawirasoetisna 4 года назад

    Hi John. when you were shopping for SL88 Studio, did you try or think about getting SL88 Grand instead?

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад

      I did...still want to get one as well!

  • @amybalcomb607
    @amybalcomb607 2 года назад

    I’ve just bought this keyboard. I also bought the studiologic 3 pedals board but can’t work out how to get it working. Which port? How to get the right pedal to sustain? Any help would be appreciated

    • @Souls_p_
      @Souls_p_ 2 года назад

      Good luck. This Midi controller has tons of issues, look into it. LCD screen corruption, click clacking really loud keys, dud keys etc. If I were you, I'd return it and instead get the M-Audio Hammer 88. It's almost guaranteed to get an issue due to quality control being so bad. You will certainly experience really loud keys because it's a fault of the materials used.

  • @mikeyoung1191
    @mikeyoung1191 4 года назад

    Hi JM! Have you tried the Yamaha Cp73/88? And if so which key action do you prefer the CP or SL...thx

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад

      Haven’t tried that one yet...but hope to soon

  • @MarcoPolux
    @MarcoPolux 4 года назад +2

    I love it also, but!!! Adter about 10months.... suddenly, the LSD just died and got totaly blank, so I have to rely on the software to change its settings... I've read about it but thought, as I wouldn't be moving it a lot, it may not happen to me. Well, 10 months later, it happened. But, for the price, is a very good midi controller with the sense of a real piano. Please update this when it happens to you, is something StudioLogic has to address.

    • @SeanGeeE
      @SeanGeeE 3 года назад

      Is it possible to access full function and settings with computer when the lcd dies?

  • @ChrisLegg17
    @ChrisLegg17 3 года назад

    Just curious. Would it be possible to export custom presets and make them available for people to download? I'm hoping for something like that cause I don't feel talented enough to tweak anything myself.

  • @RaymloR
    @RaymloR 4 года назад

    Great video sir, thanks for the upload. Its either this or ye hammer 88 from m-audio. The big factor for me is integrating with ableton live suite. Which is easiest to incorporate into ableton live? Thanks again

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад

      Check this video I did: ruclips.net/video/feytNovt7QA/видео.html

    • @RaymloR
      @RaymloR 4 года назад

      Yer a lovely man

  • @jbukuts
    @jbukuts 3 года назад

    Can you arpeggiate through the midi out to a sound module (say an monosynth) with this keyboard?

  • @aefonta
    @aefonta 4 года назад

    Nice review... i really forward to buy a 73 SL in the near future. It's just so simple and well layout. I will try to use to it as a midi controller for my Nord Electro 6d. How about the keybed felling? Is it too heavy as i read in many other reviews? Thanks.

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  4 года назад +1

      It’s a heavy feel...but I personally like that