The Wide Toe Box Test
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2020
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Does your shoe seem plenty wide? Test your insoles to really find out what your toes look like inside your shoes. You’ll be surprised!
Shoe companies create lines of “wide” shoe sizes, but turns out they’re just making the shoe deeper. That means no extra WIDTH for the toes!
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A non-widescreen video on how most shoes aren't wide enough. it really conveys the need for greater width! 😉
lol
Shoe shopping with a wide width foot is how I learned about rightious anger. I swear the shoe industry standards are a plot to cripple everyone.
Ha, sad but kinda true! 😭
You've really opened my eyes.
Thanks for this excellent video.
awesome, thanks Steve
Wow, that makes so much sense! Veery helpful!
Love hearing that!
gr8 vid and explanations. I am one of the people who has wide high arched feet. and eventually got plantar fasciitis. After going to New Balance store per dr Recommendations. discovered that
11 2E in a NB 880 with off he shelf Orthotic inserts cut to fit did the trick. Also my knee pain also got better. The Other shoe that fits me well is the ASICS GT2000 in a Extra wide with a Copper Fit Balance Copper Infused Orthotic Insole cut to fit has helped me soo much. not only does it fit better you can tell from the wear on the shoe I no longer pronate as much on my left foot, which lead to knee injury
This video should have 1.4B likes 👍
Great tip to just take out the insert to see the actual dimensions of the toebox! I'm currently searching for new training shoes and certain brands are just way to narrow for my feet, especially the toes. I never thought about how that actually changes the mechanics of the foot!
right! You'll find there's actually only 2 running shoes out there that aren't full blown minimal / barefoot shoes when it comes to a natural toe box. Check out Altra and Topo :)
@@KatieBodyFix Thanks for the reply! I actually got really into Vivos in the meantime and just ordered my third pair. I'm incredibly satisfied, they immediately fit so well and the adjustment period was surprisingly minimal. ✌️😁
Please do actual shoe brand reviews. It would save a lot of waste for us as we cannot do this unless we first order the shoes and then try them. It would be much appreciated.
Hi Sarah, thanks for watching. Check out this video I already have. If you still have more questions, let me know!
ruclips.net/video/Ei2HHR9Ltp0/видео.html
Right now I can only use Altra but even they have problems with some of their shoes being narrow in the manufacturing. I look for the widest possible toe box out there! (For my pinky toes to stretch out!). They have a new wide version of the lone peak 5 that I'm looking to hear about. Paradigm 5 is not too bad. an escalante 1.5 is super comfortable with the stretchy top for my pinky toe it's incredible stretch for the pinky toe.
I feel your pain as there are a lot of pretty wide feet out there with few options, especially people with bunions now transitioning. Hopefully they’ll continue to progress with different toe box widths in the future. That would be the best! Thanks for the comment, let me know if you try that new Lone Peak!
I am obsessed with a foot shaped shoe! Love Altra! I am waiting for UPS to pick up a pair of shoes to send back to Amazon that did not have a wide enough toebox they were Whitins.
I love Altra too! 😁 I almost tried the Whitins on Amazon, that’s good to know. Thanks 😊!!
Thanks! Super important. Can you share your list of actually good shoes and boots? Thanks!
Yes for sure! I keep meaning to do a post on THAT. Here’s a teaser in the meantime: Belenka boots!!! 😍
ruclips.net/video/Ei2HHR9Ltp0/видео.html enjoy!
just on time for my new pair of shoes! Also i need to go back to my thinner socks because the thick ones squeeze my feet a lot more.
awesome! socks make a huge difference, you're right! what shoes did you end up getting?
Thanks for addressing the wide toe box design to allow for the natural splay of the toes. I see that some of the comments mentioned Mortons toe and Mortons neuroma. I can relate. Incredibly painful. It is difficult to find WTB shoes/boots. I noticed that my orthopedic surgeon was wearing a shoe called Soft Science. Only come in whole sizes. Can't wear them for every occasion. Pretty funky looking but wide toe box and soft insert. It wasn't overnight, but the nerve pain from Mortons Neuroma is gone. I also found the Altra sneakers. Now I'm looking for hunting and hiking boots with ankle support. Any recommendation?
Hey Jack 👋🏻 checked out those SoftScience kicks... they are funky for sure! They look soft and flexible however the sole is a bit thick which isn’t exactly a natural feel for the bottom of our feet. They also lack a wide toe box. Just FYI :) as for boots, check out the Altra high top and also: Vivobarefoot, Lems, Xeroshoes. All have durable hikers. Good luck and thanks for watching!
New Balance 1340 in 6E is very wide. Even the 4E is very wide and it has a high toebox. It accommodates long small toes nicely as it doesn't taper but the top is rounded instead. But it's a stability shoe.
Jack Purcells back in the 1970s were wide and rounded too.
Hi Michael, thanks for the comment! Stability shoes are definitely part of the problem so I would advise 95% of people to stay away. It looks like the toe box is still tapered as "wide" or "E" width shoes are just more depth instead of actually changing the last of the shoe. Shoe company hack!
It's too bad they couldn't just stick with running shoes of the 1970s! :)
I learned about this about a month ago and it has me ready to throw away every pair of shoes I own except for my Birkenstock’s... the only problem is that Birkenstock’s are not good for skateboarding haha. For an activity that has everything to do with your feet, you’d think the footwear would be more anatomically correct but that is not the case at all
Related side-note: I used to think high top skate shoes would prevent ankle twisting & sprains, but I still twist my ankles even though I exclusively wear high tops. Now I have a theory that the most protective shoes are wide toe box shoes. Am I right in thinking that proper toe splay is better prevention than the ankle restriction that high tops give?
Nma Mbeledogu absolutely right! Our foot and ankle are more than capable of reacting to any terrain and protecting us from rolling our ankle. The more restrictive a shoe, the less it is able to respond to the environment and the MORE likely you are to sprain it! Also skate shoes are typically very stiff through the sole, another restriction that does not allow our foot to react and adjust to movement and terrain.
I love that you went all in and tossed all your old shoes! That takes balls 🙌🏻 Birkenstock’s are super rigid too however! Great toe box and good for transitioning to minimal footwear. Welcome to the barefoot club 👍🏻
@@KatieBodyFix I haven’t tossed all of them yet! I’m a bit of a sneaker head so I can’t fully let go of cramped shoes 😭 but I’m being mindful of which shoes I choose to do physical activity in now. I picked up skate shoes with the widest toe box I could find and a pair of altras for walking and running.
Nma Mbeledogu haha fair enough! At least you’re on the right path. I still have a closet of old shoes too that one by one I’m tossing. Not easy! 😉
I'm so glad you brought up skate shoes! ALL the typical skate brands have pointy tapered toes (vans, lakai, nike, dc, etnies, es, adidas etc etc...) and they HURT. But skaters have particular needs! (grippy soles, durable upper...) Plus we wear out shoes fast (so it hurts to spent $150 on vivobarefoot) I've been skating in Sanuk What a Trippers even though they are mesh and wear out heartbreakingly quickly. And now it looks like those have been discontinued. Keens fall into that "almost good, but still not good" range described in the video. Nma, PT Body Fix... ANY recommendations?
awesome thank you for this video!! I had bunion surgery a year ago and these "wide " shoes are definitely not wide!! it's ridiculous that in order to get actually "wide " shoes I gotta spend 100$+!!! I bought ASICS wide and it hurts my left foot(where I got the surgery on). It's like the only good shoes I have is Nike balance and that's literally one good shoe 😢😢
Yeah standard shoe companies cont to make a tapered toe box and narrow last of the shoe. Merrell and NB each carry one minimal shoe with a natural toe box. Definitely get away from the traditional running shoe brands if you are prone to bunions :)
great! what about five fingers? are they considered wide enough?
This is sooo my problem. I thought I was alone with this issue... it makes my toes hurt, and have to do pedicures each week.
Neyruz ThaHustler they’re hard to avoid because everyone makes them shaped this way! Check out my video on foot shaped shoes so you can save yourself a few pedicures! 😁
Hey, just found this video! I’m on the hunt for a wide toe box shoe that would be suitable for work environments. I work in a grocery store and cannot wear my Crocs, and don’t want to hurt my feet with barefoot shoes as I have to collect shopping carts (asphalt parking lot = extreme heat AND a very hard surface 😖). I looked into Birkenstocks like another commenter recommended; do you believe these would be a good option, and do you have any other recommendations? Thank you so much
I now have Morton's Neuroma on one foot because I've been dancing in so called "wide sneakers" but everything is still too tight. I think over the past couple of years my feet have had it that everything I've ever worn hurts the neuroma. I only have 2 pairs of shoes that have been stretched out enough that it doesn't bother me. I still can't find wide toe box sneakers that aren't flat. I have high arches too.
Hi! Super frustrating and you're right it's so hard to find shoes that actually are made for our feet. "Wide" shoes are actually just deeper shoes and the last is no different than the regular width! Annoying right? Check out my list of natural footwear, they make a lot of cool models now! Link is in comments below @Ltp0
@@KatieBodyFix Thank you. I'll definitely check out your list.
Beyond the Sickle-shaped last with high Volume toebox the toe-spring should be moderate.
Big difference Here at Altra (moderate Toe-Spring) and Topo (strong Toe-Spring).
Concept with less compromises offer Joe Nimble at the
- Addict / Addict Trail and
- WanderToes 2.0 / WanderToes 2.0 Lite
Zero Toe-Spring and moderate Front Rocker.
Ideally, no toe spring is more natural for our toes and allows our MTP joints to sit in neutral vs with toes in extension :)
@@KatieBodyFix the Problem with the overcushioning and EVA instead of PU is that the feet carve an toe-spring into the footbed. Happening at any overcushioned shoe with injected EVA-midsole.
At peba which is usually very soft the feet sink into a toe-spring.
No Problems at all even at softer Setup BOOST which is e-TPU beads based midsole-technology. Litestrike is Not overcushioned and behaves hybrid: PU+EVA.
It drives me nuts that most barefoot shoe companies don't have the guts to make their shoes wide enough for a full toe splay. They get so close, but just not close enough. If Birkenstocks, Crocs and Uggs can do wide looking shoes and make bank on them, why are all the barefoot companies so scared of it?
The only ones I've found that I can wear are Freet's Connect 2s, which work because they have a very soft upper. They're the most comfortable shoes I've ever owned. Other shoes of theirs that technically have a slightly wider toe box don't work because of less flexible materials.
Most companies are out to make $$$ and give the people what they want. So little education in that department. But things are evolving. It costs money to change the last on a shoe and then all those big running companies, for example, have to back pedal and explain why people no longer need seven diff models with various cushion and “stability”. Keep your fingers crossed for bigger changes, and keep educating your friends and family on the importance of natural footwear! 👍🏻
@@KatieBodyFix Thanks, I will. And I agree, bigger changes will probably come. This whole thing is still really in its infancy and you can see a lot of the barefoot companies evolving very fast.
What’s the brand of the recommended shoe? Pls provide a link.
hi there. I recommend lots of natural shoe brands in this video: ruclips.net/video/Ei2HHR9Ltp0/видео.html
depends on what activity you need shoes for :)
It took me 1 year to be able to splay my toes. It is crazy hard to find good fitting shoes that look decent. I mainly wear Keen, Birkenstocks, and recently bear feet shoes. Honestly, it is hard to find nice-looking winter boots that I can wear at work and walk all-day in. I bought Sorel boots which apparently everybody who lives in the cold loves, but unfortunately, my toes cramp during push-off. Please share a list of brands and stores.
Well done being committed to your foot health :)
Those shoes you listed are probably the most well known but still don't quite make the cut as a fully functional shoe as your cramped toes have noticed! Check out this video for my own list. ruclips.net/video/Ei2HHR9Ltp0/видео.html
Be Lenka and Wildling are great for winter and have several designs. Also check Ahinsa, Posh Panda, Shapen, and VivoBarefoot.
@@KatieBodyFix Thank you I will go check them out I have heard of wildling but I'm not impressed with their styles. The xero does have an ok looking boot. I have more options now.
Xero Shoes just came out with a good winter boot .Alpine. The sole is a little bit stiff but the toe box is nice and roomy. They are waterproof and warm.
I have the same issue I end up wearing out the sides where my big toe and little toe sit and shoes. Is that kind of the similar issue? And are you in Taos New Mexico cuz if so next time on their visiting my aunt I will hopefully run into you.
Hey Brian, I am located in Taos :) Enjoy your visit whenever you get back! So do you mean you callous on the side of your big and little toes? If so, yeah the shoes you're wearing are too tight in the toe box. Only natural footwear can truly accommodate our toes :)
@@KatieBodyFix yeah I got caveman feet lol. Yeah I went to a size 15 from a 14 and now alot of my feet pain is gone . But still having some pain
@@brianleabo6295 keep working on the strength and mobility! :)
crazy tp think most doctors dont talk about this. Who could believe for a year i lost my ability to walk because doctors couldnt find my condition all because of WEAK TOES
those both look like wide toe box shoes should compare something like puma shoes to those
That was kinda the point, to demonstrate that it can be tricky in spotting a true wide toe box 😉
I have a very wide foot which companies should I look into I also have a lot of calloused as well
Hi Emily 👋🏻 i find that feelgrounds are my widest shoe, and Be Lenka is a close second! Start there :)
Remember callouses are natural but where they are can be a problem!
@@KatieBodyFix what companies are they with
Emily Jones those are the brands. Be Lenka and Feelgrounds. Also Lems Primal is very wide!
Does this hold true for men’s shoes. My sketchers are pinching the toe next to little toe.
Hi Sidney :) unfortunately it's true for just about all shoes out on the market that don't take into consideration the shape and size of a natural tobebox. Running shoes are some of the biggest offenders. Almost all footwear is made with a tapered toe box.
@@KatieBodyFix would I benefit from a wide size?
sidney white wide shoes are actually not different across in width. They are made deeper, so only natural toe boxes accommodate our forefoot appropriately
Even more important in a safety toe
Found your video very interesting I actually worked in a couple of shoe stores the first one we sold a lot of Nikes and the employees were convinced they were the best but Nike basically makes one type of shoe unless you get a wide size so a lot of these companies have basically a single mold from which they design or build all their shoes basically as you are of demonstrated it's kind of a one-size-fits-all situation I enjoyed your video with educational I think you're pretty woman if you don't mind my saying and your feet look really lovely despite your problem finding a good fitting shoe
ALTRA and zero drop shoes are very very bad for ppl who need good support !
Fortunately people that “need support” are a very small percent with a significant structural problem. The purpose of the RUclips channel is to share information and educate people on the strength and power of our own feet and how detrimental rigid, supportive, and cushioned shoes actually are for us.
Remember we spent the majority of our time on this earth barefoot and had far fewer injuries 😉😉
Hi...I've 2nd longest toe I.e. Morton's Toe...can u suggest some shoes with wider toe box....usually I'm size six but sometimes I may also wear 7 just to give my toes that extra space to spread nd instead I have my shoes flying off too 🤣....due to 2nd toe I also have bunions aah very irritating and calluses in my toe nd may I add I also have flat arch.....it's like I can wear slippers to work only If I could 😂😆...nd also I'm from India where they only believe that girls like to wear fancy shoes nd not functional one....not a hater just stating facts😁....I've looked into so many brands nd tried tons of them but I give up....I can't suffocate to death just to look appealing....bcuz of that I get tons of other body ache which are not very fascinating.
Hi there, I have a barefoot /minimal shoe list video
ruclips.net/video/Ei2HHR9Ltp0/видео.html
I also just started a page on my website with some shoe brands I recommend however it is far from complete:
www.ptbodyfix.com/resources
All of the shoes mentioned above have wide toe boxes, flexible soles, and zero drop so you should be able to order your true size without them flying off your feet :) Let me know if you have more questions!
@@KatieBodyFix Haha thanks so much for the response nd concern for my flying shoes 😁.......that's so sweet nd responsible of u❤.....nd I'll definitely update u once I get a good pair of shoes....thanks again
The most comfortable shoes/boots I own are Scarpa Cyrus boots. They do half sizes. I have a narrow heel and wide fore foot. I feel like my toes can actually relax in these boots. The only problem is they're a brown walking boot so not super elegant but they look nice enough for walking places and every day wear.
I wish Altra would make drop shoes because for most us who have worn modern shoes, it is impossible for our ligaments and tendons to stretch out naturally again. I tried Altra for three years and my toes spread naturally but my feet/heel can never get use to zero drop again. It is a modern tragedy. Your video is half there. You are forgetting the other equally important half.
You’re right in that no shoe can correct the years of wearing poor footwear. Check out my other videos that educate you on regaining strength, mobility and flexibility. The ultimate goal is zero drop as we are no born with shoes on our feet. For an intermediary shoe, look at Topo Athletic with a heel drop.
@@KatieBodyFix Thanks. I’ll certainly check them out. I will also look into Topo Athletic as well.
This shoe is only for women and women that want a hallux valgus
Which shoe are you referring to? 🤔 the video compares wide toe box vs narrow toe box. You should watch the whole video first 😉
It’s so frustrating
Haha which part is frustrating? 🙂