Cemetery Rd Red Light Camera: Justice or Just a Money Grab?

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
  • Step into the contentious world of Melbourne's Cemetery Rd red light camera in this eye-opening video. Join us as we delve into the controversies surrounding this notorious intersection, from its status as Melbourne's highest-earning red light camera to the challenges drivers face in navigating its obscured traffic lights.
    As we explore the ongoing debate, we'll hear from frustrated drivers, local news, and concerned citizens, shedding light on the complexities of receiving fines at this location. With evidence sometimes showing only green lights in the photo evidence, the question of whether to fight the fine or pay it becomes a pressing dilemma for many.
    Join us as we navigate this thorny issue, offering insights, advice, and real-life experiences to help drivers make informed decisions about their fines. Whether you've been caught in the crosshairs of Cemetery Rd's red light camera or simply want to understand the controversy better, this video is a must-watch.
    Don't miss out on this compelling exploration of justice, accountability, and the challenges of modern traffic enforcement. Hit play now and join the conversation about Cemetery Rd's red light camera.
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Комментарии • 55

  • @OutlawGarage
    @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +1

    What should I do? I'm 100% there was no red light and the photo doesn't show red either, just feels unfair to be forced to pay it and the 3 points hurts as well, would you fight it?

  • @OliviaMalm-oj1zj
    @OliviaMalm-oj1zj Месяц назад +4

    I was in exactly the same situation as you. I got fined in December. They initially rejected my review request, so I chose to go to court. After a couple of weeks, I received a letter stating that there was no action against me.
    They knew there was something wrong with their camera.

  • @TheKidd1988
    @TheKidd1988 Месяц назад +6

    I'm from Perth. If the photo doesn't show a red light, they can't prove you ran one. Fight it

  • @DCSquared
    @DCSquared Месяц назад +6

    It is clear that you entered the intersection on a green light leaving you 100% in the right and them without an argument.
    Applying to have this proceed to court will force it higher up the chain of command. They will look at it closer and withdraw the fine rather than defend this injustice before then court.
    Send your RUclips video to the TV stations and watch Fines Victoria squirm.

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +2

      That’s a good idea, I’ll circulate it around, thanks 👍

  • @MelodyMan69
    @MelodyMan69 Месяц назад +2

    Fight it. Also counter sue for the 'stress' and anxious life you had to bear in doing so. Say $200,000 . + costs. F-em

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +2

      I’d be lucky to get my tram fare 🤣 the fight is on though 💪🏻 thanks for the support

  • @arvind9019
    @arvind9019 Месяц назад +2

    So did you fight this? Did TCO withdraw their infringement? Keen to know as I have a similar situation for a person i know who is going to court too.

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +3

      I applied to go to court, literally yesterday I received a letter saying the infringement was withdrawn! Took about 2 weeks. They are just trying to bully people into paying, disgraceful

  • @lnewman2402
    @lnewman2402 9 дней назад +1

    I just got the same fine and all the lights are green as well. What was the process for appealing ? Can i just threaten them with going to court if they reject the review.
    I dont really wanna go through that whole processs

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  9 дней назад +1

      I was exactly the same. My review appears to be have not been a proper review. I would recommend applying to go to court, I would also submit a freedom of information request for the maintenance records and all the details of the traffic light (costs $30). What I found was that 2 weeks later my fine was withdrawn and I was offered a full refund on my freedom of information request 👍
      Also check out the video description details for some important links
      #fightthefine

  • @YellowDieselGolf
    @YellowDieselGolf Месяц назад +1

    I agree that it looks green in the photo, but the colour balance is really bad. Even if it was red, I don’t think it would be very visible in that crappy picture.

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +1

      Agreed, but if you are going to show me a red light camera photo and fine me, it needs to show a red surely

    • @YellowDieselGolf
      @YellowDieselGolf Месяц назад

      @@OutlawGarage 100%. I bet they wouldn’t accept photographic evidence in your defence if it was that poor quality.
      Fines and demerit points can have a real impact on people’s lives. IF it was red (it clearly isn’t), they should be providing indisputable evidence.

  • @keithbuxton5671
    @keithbuxton5671 Месяц назад +2

    fight it if there is no red light in the photo they have no evidence.

  • @brendanhead7368
    @brendanhead7368 Месяц назад +3

    Amazing how they cannot provide a 100% clear photograph of this supposed red light in the first place. Also when you questioned the infringement how they couldn’t downgrade the matter to a cautionary notice given your alleged incident was only 0.6 of a second after the light change anyway.
    Seems like they just want to raise revenue.

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +3

      They were very nice to me on the phone when I first called but then their attitude completely changed when they realised the intersection. I think there is something fishy going on here… time to fight the fine

  • @bobjohnston5527
    @bobjohnston5527 Месяц назад +1

    It doesn't pick up one vehicle at a time with two lane of traffic going on green light

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +1

      It should show a red though if I went through a red. I distinctly remember no amber or red for sure

  • @Joez911
    @Joez911 Месяц назад +1

    Scotty… you have to fight it!!! From what I can see from your vid you will beat it… I can’t believe the review upheld the charge🤬

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks, I have to fight it 🥊💪🏻

  • @davidcollins9350
    @davidcollins9350 Месяц назад +1

    Jeez, it's bloody criminal that you get a record for contesting, they have you by the goolies. I hope you fight it and with a competent lawyer you will win.

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for the support 💪🏻

    • @pervertt
      @pervertt Месяц назад

      Unlikely that you'll end up with a criminal record if you lose. Most magistrates appreciate that a criminal record is an undue penalty for otherwise well behaved citizens.

  • @Retroversus
    @Retroversus Месяц назад +1

    Fight it in court

  • @deldridg
    @deldridg Месяц назад +2

    In January I drove from Corowa to Melbourne and couldn't believe the proliferation of cameras. It seemed that that revolting weasel Chairman Dan had put a camera up every 5 km on the freeway. It's bad enough at home in Sydney, but after my Victorian experience, I'm sure glad I'm here and not there. Fight it brother and hopefully add your bit to the task of making the 'state' more reasonable. It really is disgusting. Cheers - Dave

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks Dave, you’re right, I have to fight it 👍

  • @daineseboy78
    @daineseboy78 Месяц назад +2

    We moved outta Melbourne a few years ago now. Lived in Richmond but way too busy too many people cars too many cars and too many cameras. Much less out here in the country and much better driving and biking roads. Melbourne’s nice to visit but man it’s nice to drive outta there again

  • @pokiou
    @pokiou Месяц назад +1

    Good video Scott.. keep them coming.

  • @calvincheung7576
    @calvincheung7576 Месяц назад +1

    Yea, fight it since the photo doesn't show a red light. I wonder how many drivers got done unfairly?

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +2

      I think going to court really puts people off, I’d imagine most people pay which isn’t a fair process, it’s just driven by fear and threats.

  • @user-dd8hh9gi9z
    @user-dd8hh9gi9z Месяц назад +1

    Ridiculous. Fight. And be LOUD about it.

  • @Cento24
    @Cento24 Месяц назад +1

    Fight it!

  • @ianwalker7934
    @ianwalker7934 Месяц назад +2

    Fight , fight , fight

  • @NutkeyDoesMinecraft
    @NutkeyDoesMinecraft Месяц назад +1

    Literally 1984

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +1

      💯 amazing how strange they got on the phone when I questioned the review and asked for the review feedback and how the review had come to the conclusion, got rude with me very quick and just said go to court, so off I go to court!

  • @TrentArmstrong-eo2pj
    @TrentArmstrong-eo2pj Месяц назад +1

    I'm guessing you didnt have a dashcam to support your claim. Either way, I would dispute it. The magistrate will almost certainly take your side given the evidence.

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +1

      No dash cam unfortunately and I do hope so 👍

  • @Bboytraxx
    @Bboytraxx Месяц назад +1

    Not sure if it’s in your favour. We can at least see there is no green arrow on both traffic lights. That’s not a good starting point for a defence
    It sucks that it happened but I don’t think the effort you would have to put in is worth the return you would get if you fought it and won.

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +1

      I thought it was worth the try, just to see if they want the fight

    • @DCSquared
      @DCSquared Месяц назад

      If the infringement is for running a red light as the bottom of their photo states "...When vehicle entered intersection 0.6 seconds had elapsed since light turned red.", then there is clearly no red light to obey. Case closed.

  • @user-qr7ee2cp4y
    @user-qr7ee2cp4y Месяц назад

    Laws aren't suggestions. You're not above the law, who do you think you are, Donald trump?

    • @OutlawGarage
      @OutlawGarage  Месяц назад +2

      But the photo shows I didn’t break the law and I’m 💯 sure there was no red or amber light, 💯