Tbf, you don't want *realism* , you want as easy to read a *diagram* of the ground, runway and your vector as possible. A roads view map rather than a satellite view map.
G450 is really a Gulfstream IV, first introduced in 1985. Even with updates it will still look like MS FS for Win95, unless the owner does a complete avionics redo.
Thank you for not using a fake thumbnail. That plane was really in that position as viewed from long distance camera. When a clickbait thumbnail draws me in and it really happens you earn my respect.
It never fails to amaze me and remind me of how fast jets are when I watch videos during a low fly by. It's one thing sitting inside, looking out the window and seeing the ground whiz by prior to landing, but standing next to a fly by never gets boring.
@@landingslowly I'd probably asking my whole existence in this world, why in the hell I were onboard that plane...😅 p.s. and the answer is, damn right, I wanna see that low approach at St. Barth with my own eyes 🤣
@@landingslowly The approach is completely unremarkable except for the 10 seconds before landing where you fly very low across the road and the dive down towards the runway. If you are a pilot you must be authorised to fly the approach - you gain authorisation by taking a training course with a local instructor and that course includes a number of approaches. If you are a passenger you see the road for a few seconds just before you touch down. It's noo big deal.
Poor technique holding off that high nose that long. ....it should be flown onto the runway. .. Increases landing distance and increases the chance of a tail strike.....as you can see...
@@daftvader4218But aerobraking reduced break wear. As long as I have plenty of runway left, I use aerobraking every time. This was very important for my FI in school.
@@Feuergraf Stay in school longer...you have a lot to learn This is about large commercial jets. This shows how NOT to land a B757.. Aeronautical braking is NOT approved and is an unprofessional technique that reduces safety margins. ..just look at the tail and then look at the nose almost crashing down with decreasing airspeed... The main electronics bay is just above the nose wheel and in the past has sustained serious impact damaged rendering system malfunction...eg No radio..No PA.. This is just appalling technique that almost resulted in a tail strike. Just poor airmanship. ... Nothing else.
I thank everyone for their information and insights on the landing that I made an observation on. It definitely has spawned an interesting if not intimidating amount of commentary. My original conversation began with an opinion that the captions seemed a little overstated when it concerned the two aircraft said to be close to tail strikes.Never once did I dispute or question the credentials or veracity of those that offered their insights including that of the information that they presented. One thing that I am aware of is that people who love aviation seem to love sharing good and pertinent information. With that, I am most appreciative. Again, happy and safe flying to EVERYONE!
Isn't that contrary to the function of speedbrakes and ground spoilers? They are designed to disrupt the airflow over the wing and thereby reduce the tendency of the aircraft to pitch upward. The 757 crew was just trying to use aerodynamic braking after a pretty decent landing.
@@stephenmajor5498 it is, but also in the manual written that it tends to pitch the nose up so pilot have to be careful on the elevator upon touchdown.
I'll gladly take your word for it. As anyone interested in the field of aviation knows, nobody knows everything. Myself included. However, those characteristics that you're speaking of aren't the norm and don't change the intended purpose of spoilers/speed brakes upon landing.
@@stephenmajor5498 There is no such thing as an approved " aerodynamic " braking technique on a Boeing. Boeing says get the nose down in a controlled manner ASAP... Holding the nose wheel off like that is poor airmanship , potentially increases the landing distance, dangerous in a cross wind and greatly increases the chance of a tail strike especially on longer aircraft.....as you can see!! Very poor landing technique on any Boeing.....as you can see.. !!
There is NO adverse pitch effect after landing by the spoilers deploying. . All the spoilers do is totally destroy the lift on the wings and put all the weight on the wheels for maximum retardation ...so how do you get a pitch up ?? The pitch up could be caused by the power levers not being at idle due to poor landing technique. The only time you get a pitch up is when you have certain spoiler failures. The non - normal check list will warn..o
@@ImpactWench borderline overloaded does not exist. It’s either at Max Landing Weight or below, which is perfectly fine, or it’s above max landing weight, which means it’s overloaded. And it’s below max landing weight.
Ah, that's a viewer with more than three minutes of aviation to rely upon! Aerosucre. How could this channel operate without a few of their contributing stories? Oh well, that's short-term memory in its purist form.
@@stephenmajor5498 I’d love to know just how many of the geniuses constantly commenting on Aerosucre had ever heard of the airline before watching this channel?
Good question. In all honesty, I haven't. Unfortunately, what limited information I have comes via the internet and we all realize how skewed of a picture that can present. But looking at it from the prospective of a commercial pilot with many hours in "type" (Boeing 727's) there is a great deal of video footage depicting a culture of "flamboyance" and flagrant "oversight" amongst the airline and cockpit crew. Lastly, a good deal of the video footage comes from the actual cockpit crew itself.
I'm thinking that Pilatus - coming in to St. Barth's? - I might use a different approach, come in higher then side slip down to the runway. This would also reduce landing apeed and run out. I used to do this in a Piper. A friend did this in his Cessna 172 with the Robertson STOL conversion and his run out was about 40 feet. But since this is essentially a well-controlled stall, that might not be allowed for commercial flights.
Okay, lets become more acquainted with the variables associated involved in normal flight verses those that warrant the headlines before each segment. The first one with the PC-12 was definitely worth the caption and also a replay or two. But the two aircraft said to have suffered from hard landings or tailstrikes is quite far from reality. Just look at the video. Nevertheless, I always enjoy this channel and its content.
There is such thing as Boeing approved "dynamic braking" Waste runway and could cause a tail strike. Just appalling airmanship. Hold off a nose that is too high.. Very poor technique. ...
The hard landing wasn’t a hard landing and the scenic low flying looks more like the aircraft could have had a gear indicator issue and requested a visual check since he was at the airport. Does anyone at this channel know anything about aviation?
Why was that approach too low as described in your video title. That was more or less standard for that approach and runway. This channel doesn't normally sensationalise the normal to hype things up and create interest, Hope that this isn't going to become the norm.
Hey, I'm in full agreement with the concept of putting the nose down and decreasing the braking distance. After all, " three green" don't mean a darn until they're firmly on the runway and headed to the gate. My theory of aerodynamic braking seems to stem from the many videos depicting a pilot using this technique for the purpose of demonstrating a smooth landing. The amount of commentary on this very subject is indicative of the individual nature of the people tasked with a single purpose. Some better than others. Some just bad. That's why there's no ending to the amount of videos likely to be presented in the future. Who knows? We might see ourselves in one. Anyway, happy and safe flying to EVERYONE!
@@stephenmajor5498 Hi Stephen Thanks for your reply. Nothing to do with a smooth landing at all.......that's the main wheels ! On commercial jets ....... "aerodynamic braking" is not an approved procedure just poor airmanship and landing technique. Ask Boeing. ...Flight Training Manual. Unless of course you have a nose gear problem where you are still told to fly the nose onto the ground when you still have some cotrol. If you watch that B757 he comes in with a slightly nose high attitude and then holds the nose off AGAIN instead of flying it on to the runway...Probably caused by not retarding the power levers to idle ...and also being a bit too fast. Watch that tail dip !!!??? Crashing a nose wheel as you run out of speed on any aircraft is to be avoided especially in the B757 as the electonics bay is right above the nose....??? That was a very poor ...long landing with the tail getting close to the ground especially as the speed decreased with increasing pitch.. Only flew the B757/767 as a Captain worldwide for over 10 years before becoming a B747-400.Capt in turn....
@@daftvader4218Okay, Captain. As I've stated in my reply, it was my assertion of "aerodynamic braking" in this case and contrary to any of my personal practices as a commercial pilot. Hopefully, your ability of quoting from Boeing's flight manuals are better than your attempt to quote from my texts. I was simply giving a theory of mine and wasn't offering any excuses or advice. Lastly, there's no shortage of B-747, 757, A-300 series etc. left on the side of a mountain or at the bottom of the sea with Captains twice your flying experience. Again, happy and safe flying to EVERYONE!
@@stephenmajor5498 Hi Stephen. . Sorry if I misunderstood you. All I'm saying aerodynamic breaking is not a landing technique that applies to the B757... Certainly a lot of crashes indeed but I'm not sure have relevant that is to this landing ??
My apologies to you, Captain for not being able to convey that my theory of aerodynamic braking was just that. A theory. The references I made involving crashes with various types and experience had nothing to do with our original conversation but came about with your pronouncement of indisputable flying experience and credentials. My point was that many crashes involve pilots with similar experience and loftier credentials but remain vulnerable to poor decisions or bad technique. I just find it difficult to believe that you factor in the location of the electronics bay during such a critical phase of flight. Let's be honest. That landing was just fine and you and I probably have made many just like that. Or worse.
Well, technically “rotation” is the action of applying back pressure on a yoke/stick, to lift the nose up. This is where the aircraft rotates around its lateral axis. The result is usually lift off, but the lift off itself isn’t why it’s called rotation. Same reason why rockets, when they leave the ground they say “lift off” and not “rotation”.
@@LeeD74 we call it indeed flare for landing. Really it’s before landing. Some people calling the round out. But the flare is prior to landing, while in the air. Take off, we call rotate which initiates the rotation around the lateral axis, this eventually results in lift off. So yes, when pilots talk, discuss and fly, flare is used for landing and to station used for take off. But in my opinion, since the airplane was on the ground, you technically could say the pilot rotated the airplane. It might not be common, even a bit awkward and I would never say it, but I also would call it wrong. 🤷🏻♂️ Just my opinion though. I’m not saying I’m right. I just think the initial comment from SIM pilot 🤪 was a bit harsh.
The GulfStream terrain rendering looks like something from a '90's version of MS Flight Simulator.
Tbf, you don't want *realism* , you want as easy to read a *diagram* of the ground, runway and your vector as possible. A roads view map rather than a satellite view map.
G450 is really a Gulfstream IV, first introduced in 1985. Even with updates it will still look like MS FS for Win95, unless the owner does a complete avionics redo.
They had a free version of one gulfstream for X-plane 10 or 11, it even had auto start up..
Thank you for not using a fake thumbnail. That plane was really in that position as viewed from long distance camera. When a clickbait thumbnail draws me in and it really happens you earn my respect.
It never fails to amaze me and remind me of how fast jets are when I watch videos during a low fly by.
It's one thing sitting inside, looking out the window and seeing the ground whiz by prior to landing, but standing next to a fly by never gets boring.
I went to Saint Barth and damn, it was impressive to be in that little plane.
I'd probably be shitting my pants the whole approach😂
@@landingslowly I'd probably asking my whole existence in this world, why in the hell I were onboard that plane...😅
p.s. and the answer is, damn right, I wanna see that low approach at St. Barth with my own eyes 🤣
@@landingslowly The approach is completely unremarkable except for the 10 seconds before landing where you fly very low across the road and the dive down towards the runway. If you are a pilot you must be authorised to fly the approach - you gain authorisation by taking a training course with a local instructor and that course includes a number of approaches. If you are a passenger you see the road for a few seconds just before you touch down. It's noo big deal.
Ah, the cockpit systems during landing is quite interesting. More would be appreciated. Thanks for the compilation !
The 757 is such a righteous mac of an airplane! ❤
More impressive than the synthetic vision and landing gear cameras is the ghost pilot on the yoke!
You don't think there's somebody in the left yoke?
@@hotrodray6802 Yeah, and his name is Sarcasm.
:44.........That wasn't even close to a tail strike.
I agree! Looked pretty much like a textbook landing for a 57.
I would say relatively close but I see what you mean and I would also feel fine riding in that
Poor technique holding off that high nose that long. ....it should
be flown onto the runway. ..
Increases landing distance and increases the chance of a tail strike.....as you can see...
@@daftvader4218But aerobraking reduced break wear. As long as I have plenty of runway left, I use aerobraking every time. This was very important for my FI in school.
@@Feuergraf Stay in school longer...you have a lot to learn
This is about large commercial jets.
This shows how NOT to land a B757..
Aeronautical braking is NOT approved and is an unprofessional technique that reduces safety margins. ..just look at the tail and then look at the nose almost crashing down with decreasing airspeed...
The main electronics bay is just above the nose wheel and in the past has sustained serious impact damaged rendering system malfunction...eg No radio..No PA..
This is just appalling technique that almost resulted in a tail strike.
Just poor airmanship. ...
Nothing else.
Lets be honest, 3 minutes of aviation never fails to entertain us ❤
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excactly
Facts
Actually it does when they repost the same videos over and over
And that is thanks to aerosucre😊
@@maxenceleboeuf Or when the written description of the clip is inaccurate
That Iceland Air DC3 though 💚
Normal approach for St.Barth. 🤨
its nice that you included th Icelandair part since today is the annual rvk airshow :)
Such an awesome video! Thanks again for featuring me!
Low approach to St. Barth: The recommended ACB (altitude above street crash barrier) at St. Barth is 2'4''. And not 1'8'' as this plane went.
That PC-12 nearly clipped that statue! I bet there were skid marks on more than just the runway after that...
You can See the runway is wet when the lux 747 lands. Procedure here is to make a positive (hard) landing in wet conditions to prevent skid
Yes, looked like a very skilled landing to me. Perfect, really.
757 is a beautiful aircraft...
Both of those 757 clips were amazing… looks great in the Icelandair livery🤩
Yay 2 extra seconds of aviation
Great video! Love your uploads!
Thank you for sharing. I love and still miss flying on the 757-200s.
Love these videos! Thank you so much! Keep up the great work! :)
“Plane approaches too low”
We all know it was right for St Barths.
Well, the recommended ACB (altitude above street crash barrier) at St. Barth is 2'4''. And not 1'8'' as this plane went.
Looked less than 12" to me! That is an insane runway to land on
1:28 I'm a novice with no business correcting anyone. Just learning. Isn't that a flare not a rotation? Thanks!
As a novice myself i think it s a flare
CPL rated here, it's flaring not rotating
Rotation is on take off.
looks like you should get in the business of correcting......youtube desperately needs ya !
I thank everyone for their information and insights on the landing that I made an observation on. It definitely has spawned an interesting if not intimidating amount of commentary. My original conversation began with an opinion that the captions seemed a little overstated when it concerned the two aircraft said to be close to tail strikes.Never once did I dispute or question the credentials or veracity of those that offered their insights including that of the information that they presented. One thing that I am aware of is that people who love aviation seem to love sharing good and pertinent information. With that,
I am most appreciative. Again, happy and safe flying to EVERYONE!
The 757 pitch up after landing is caused by the speed brakes/ground spoilers deploying.
Isn't that contrary to the function of speedbrakes and ground spoilers? They are designed to disrupt the airflow over the wing and thereby reduce the tendency of the aircraft to pitch upward. The 757 crew was just trying to use aerodynamic braking after a pretty decent landing.
@@stephenmajor5498 it is, but also in the manual written that it tends to pitch the nose up so pilot have to be careful on the elevator upon touchdown.
I'll gladly take your word for it. As anyone interested in the field of aviation knows, nobody knows everything. Myself included. However, those characteristics that you're speaking of aren't the norm and don't change the intended purpose of spoilers/speed brakes upon landing.
@@stephenmajor5498 There is no such thing as an approved " aerodynamic " braking
technique on a Boeing.
Boeing says get the nose down in a controlled manner ASAP...
Holding the nose wheel off like that is poor airmanship , potentially increases the landing distance, dangerous in a cross wind and greatly increases the chance of a tail strike especially on longer aircraft.....as you can see!!
Very poor landing technique on any Boeing.....as you can see.. !!
There is NO adverse pitch effect after landing by the spoilers deploying. .
All the spoilers do is totally destroy the lift on the wings and put all the weight on the wheels for maximum retardation ...so how do you get a pitch up ??
The pitch up could be caused by the power levers not being at idle due to poor landing technique.
The only time you get a pitch up is when you have certain spoiler failures.
The non - normal check list will warn..o
Could we have more cockpit views during takeoff or landing, please?
I liked the one with the plane
That's pretty much how every plane approaches the runway
2:00 Helicopter is fly by
Great video!😸
Was the Cargolux landing really that hard?
No. Firm, not hard.
@@lbowsk Yeah. Also I waited for the shocks to extend back up after the squat and... didn't see much. Probably borderline overloaded.
@@ImpactWench borderline overloaded does not exist. It’s either at Max Landing Weight or below, which is perfectly fine, or it’s above max landing weight, which means it’s overloaded.
And it’s below max landing weight.
No. Just no excessive airspeed to bleed off before touch down
@@lbowsk agreed. Could’ve flared a bit sooner, but still fine. This was a “oh shit” flare.
To be fair, that cargolux landing wasn't too hard...
Cargolux landings are too hard then when you got overtaken by your own main landing gear - or at least parts of it...
Yes, I thought it looked fine.
I thought the same
Meh… pretty hard.
It’s not like the boxes in the back care.
OMG! I initially thought the thumbnail was fabricated click bait... but it actually happened! 😮
Eurocopter ❤❤❤ and the low pass❤
The Pilatus was an Aerosucre in disguise.
Ah, that's a viewer with more than three minutes of aviation to rely upon! Aerosucre. How could this channel operate without a few of their contributing stories? Oh well, that's short-term memory in its purist form.
@@stephenmajor5498 I’d love to know just how many of the geniuses constantly commenting on Aerosucre had ever heard of the airline before watching this channel?
Good question. In all honesty, I haven't. Unfortunately, what limited information I have comes via the internet and we all realize how skewed of a picture that can present. But looking at it from the prospective of a commercial pilot with many hours in "type" (Boeing 727's) there is a great deal of video footage depicting a culture of "flamboyance" and flagrant "oversight" amongst the airline and cockpit crew. Lastly, a good deal of the video footage comes from the actual cockpit crew itself.
Pitch up after landing: the tail was 5 ft off the ground.
1:53 Aerosucre: you're hired!
Iceland always looks so clean
I'm thinking that Pilatus - coming in to St. Barth's? - I might use a different approach, come in higher then side slip down to the runway. This would also reduce landing apeed and run out. I used to do this in a Piper. A friend did this in his Cessna 172 with the Robertson STOL conversion and his run out was about 40 feet.
But since this is essentially a well-controlled stall, that might not be allowed for commercial flights.
What crazy airport runway was it where the Tradewinds Pilatus pc-12 landing?
2:25 - I bet that set off a few car alarms... 😁
Great vid as always
I find that the 747-8 lands best when you use VRef+10 as a baseline approach speed.
Gotta love a eurocopter
That first clip,, absolutely normal for St Barths.
I can't possibly understand why Cargolux 747s occasionally drop a bogie on landings. /s
Usually on the landing pilots side ????
the road in the first clip was so busy, it even needed to be closed 😂
One of my favorite channels.
Okay, lets become more acquainted with the variables associated involved in normal flight verses those that warrant the headlines before each segment. The first one with the PC-12 was definitely worth the caption and also a replay or two. But the two aircraft said to have suffered from hard landings or tailstrikes is quite far from reality. Just look at the video. Nevertheless, I always enjoy this channel and its content.
That Gulfstream display...8 bit Mario Land?
That Lear may have hit a Semi if one was driving by.Jeez
The landings in St Barts are almost always that low as they runway is very short.
The UA B-757 far away from a tailstrike. Pls no overdramatic intro.
Almost...just appalling airmanship and technique..
That is why it is here....
Cargolux being Europes Aerosucre it seems.
So, the rule for that roundabout in St Barth is give way to cars _and_ planes already on the roundabout.
2:03 no dust?
The most iconic part is that some guy at st barth was in some tiny vehicle
That's just a standard size car for the rest of the world outside North America
The footage was so exciting…I almost fell asleep. Seriously you are running out of footage and are describing it as more serious than it is 🤣🤣🤣
why the Eurocopter did not cause any dust ?
It's going 100 it's not hovering.
I read that as "757 fighter"
Must have been Hawke or Dom as the pilots of the Eurocopter. 😉
Greased it at KSGR
Its not «too low» It’s low.
Toooo low would be hitting the fence 👍
It's low enough to call 'too low' and therefore attract views and comments, nothing wrong with that, especially if it annoys pedants like you.
Love this channel
Do you have that "close to a tailstrike" on speed dial? I mean using it in vain that often. This too was not in anyway close.
Very close due to poor technique and airmanship. .
That is why the video is here..
@@daftvader4218
Daft?
U owe us 1 second of aviation
for me it's 3:01 so we technically own him a second of aviation
@@dacallp 301 here too
Imo, Eurocopter is a fake video. No movement of ground vegetation at all... Pls correct me if I'm wrong.
Completely standard st Barth’s landing. Done it many times.
045: Looks to me like the pilot was doing dynamic breaking.
045: bro what😂
There is such thing as Boeing approved "dynamic braking"
Waste runway and could cause a tail strike.
Just appalling airmanship.
Hold off a nose that is too high..
Very poor technique. ...
1:43
RYAN AIR: WELCOME ON BOARD..
Great video!
1st sequence: it's absolutely normal procedure in Saint Barth, nothing unusual. What is unusual is the configuration of the airport ...
Cargolux looks like they hired some aerosucre pilots 😂
You're flogging a dead horse with poor AeroSucre.
Nah they come from Ryanair.
Aerosucre feature is to takeoff after the end of the runway
if a truck passes at the same time???😢
The hard landing wasn’t a hard landing and the scenic low flying looks more like the aircraft could have had a gear indicator issue and requested a visual check since he was at the airport.
Does anyone at this channel know anything about aviation?
No, I don’t think they do
Thank God, no furniture was being delivered that day
That's normal approach into St. Barth.
Standard landing at that airport. Much higher and you will be in the water at the other end.
Extremely low is not the same as "too low."
Inches from disaster landing at St Lucia.
I think most plane landings are that low at St Barts, otherwise you over run the very short runway.
i tought the thumbnail is clickbait but it not
Edit: i cant spell
Why was that approach too low as described in your video title. That was more or less standard for that approach and runway. This channel doesn't normally sensationalise the normal to hype things up and create interest, Hope that this isn't going to become the norm.
In the first clip it wasn't too low and on the second it wasn't too hatd
"PC12 pilot conducts routine landing at Gustaf III".
„Too low“ for what?
That 757 was heavy in the ass 😂
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We owe you 2 minutes of aviation
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This is 3 minutes and one second
00:42 they gotta sit Lizzo further forward of the CG
757 was not a "close" tail strike.
To be exact it’s 3minutes and 1 second *ahem*
Nothing wrong with the 757-300 landing at all. Filler.
It was appalling technique..the too high nose was not flown onto the ground wasting runway and almost causing a tail strike.
Too low, terrain, pull up!
3 MINS
There is no such approved landing technique on commercial jets as "aerodynamic braking "....
Hey, I'm in full agreement with the concept of putting the nose down and decreasing the braking distance. After all, " three green" don't mean a darn until they're firmly on the runway and headed to the gate. My theory of aerodynamic braking seems to stem from the many videos depicting a pilot using this technique for the purpose of demonstrating a smooth landing. The amount of commentary on this very subject is indicative of the individual nature of the people tasked with a single purpose. Some better than others. Some just bad. That's why there's no ending to the amount of videos likely to be presented in the future. Who knows? We might see ourselves in one. Anyway, happy and safe flying to EVERYONE!
@@stephenmajor5498 Hi Stephen
Thanks for your reply.
Nothing to do with a smooth landing at all.......that's the main wheels !
On commercial jets ....... "aerodynamic braking" is not an approved procedure just poor airmanship and landing technique.
Ask Boeing. ...Flight Training Manual.
Unless of course you have a nose gear problem where you are still told to fly the nose onto the ground when you still have some cotrol.
If you watch that B757 he comes in with a slightly nose high attitude and then holds the nose off AGAIN instead of flying it on to the runway...Probably caused by not retarding the power levers to idle ...and also being a bit too fast.
Watch that tail dip !!!???
Crashing a nose wheel as you run out of speed on any aircraft is to be avoided especially in the B757 as the electonics bay is right above the nose....???
That was a very poor ...long landing with the tail getting close to the ground especially as the speed decreased with increasing pitch..
Only flew the B757/767 as a Captain worldwide for over 10 years before becoming a B747-400.Capt in turn....
@@daftvader4218Okay, Captain. As I've stated in my reply, it was my assertion of "aerodynamic braking" in this case and contrary to any of my personal practices as a commercial pilot. Hopefully, your ability of quoting from Boeing's flight manuals are better than your attempt to quote from my texts. I was simply giving a theory of mine and wasn't offering any excuses or advice. Lastly, there's no shortage of B-747, 757, A-300 series etc. left on the side of a mountain or at the bottom of the sea with Captains twice your flying experience. Again, happy and safe flying to EVERYONE!
@@stephenmajor5498 Hi Stephen. .
Sorry if I misunderstood you.
All I'm saying aerodynamic breaking is not a landing technique that applies to the B757...
Certainly a lot of crashes indeed but I'm not sure have relevant that is to this landing ??
My apologies to you, Captain for not being able to convey that my theory of aerodynamic braking was just that. A theory. The references I made involving crashes with various types and experience had nothing to do with our original conversation but came about with your pronouncement of indisputable flying experience and credentials. My point was that many crashes involve pilots with similar experience and loftier credentials but remain vulnerable to poor decisions or bad technique. I just find it difficult to believe that you factor in the location of the electronics bay during such a critical phase of flight. Let's be honest. That landing was just fine and you and I probably have made many just like that. Or worse.
Rotates aircraft on landing? wha?.... do you speak aviation, kid?
Haha I was looking for this exact comment.
Well, technically “rotation” is the action of applying back pressure on a yoke/stick, to lift the nose up. This is where the aircraft rotates around its lateral axis. The result is usually lift off, but the lift off itself isn’t why it’s called rotation. Same reason why rockets, when they leave the ground they say “lift off” and not “rotation”.
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 my understanding is you flare on landing and rotate on take off. I'm not a pilot and happy to be corrected .
@@LeeD74 we call it indeed flare for landing. Really it’s before landing. Some people calling the round out. But the flare is prior to landing, while in the air.
Take off, we call rotate which initiates the rotation around the lateral axis, this eventually results in lift off.
So yes, when pilots talk, discuss and fly, flare is used for landing and to station used for take off.
But in my opinion, since the airplane was on the ground, you technically could say the pilot rotated the airplane. It might not be common, even a bit awkward and I would never say it, but I also would call it wrong. 🤷🏻♂️
Just my opinion though. I’m not saying I’m right. I just think the initial comment from SIM pilot 🤪 was a bit harsh.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 @rtbrtb_dutchy4183 I'm not trying to be critical, I'm genuinely interested. I love watching 74 gear channel on RUclips.
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