When Randy Meisner Quit Poco - We Get Three sides of the Story
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lp.constantcon... Interview Clip #5 When Randy Meisner Quit Poco We Get Three sides of the story
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Randy Meisner had the most recognizable voice in music from the mid to late 70's.I was a teenager.Take it to the limit was amazing.Thank you Randy!
I adore Randy Meisner and it break's my heart how The Eagles treated him and others that worked with him. I hope Randy knows how much he is loved.
Yup, for sure!
Don Henley is not a good human being.
Randy Meisner's contributions stand out both with Poco and the Eagles. Randy stand tall, be proud you have many people who support you.
RIP Randy! I learned so much about music from you. Fly high, Eagle!
Randy was just too nice a guy for the world he got mixed up in. An incredible talent and still loved by his homefolk in Scottsbluff Ne.
Richie for a minister you are a work of art reminds me of Glen Frey!
All this information is fascinating for us life long Poco fans. Too bad we had to wait 50 years to find it out. Better late than never. Thanks Internet, and thanks Rock History Music Channel!
Cant help but wonder how much success Poco would have had if they kept Randy on for a couple of albums at least. He added a golden touch to every band he was in - like Rick Nelson & The Stone Canyon Band and the Eagles. Even his old band in Nebraska was a hot ticket locally.
Most people who have interviewed Randy say he's like the nicest guy in the world. Furay should take responsibility for his actions.
Furay comes across as disingenuous.
@@jazzcat8087 that's his last name.
Hell’s bells… it was over 50 years ago! Furay and Messina were stand up guys.
@@stormbringercoming8105
And yet they blame each other for what happened. Randy Meisner is what you call a stand up guy. Every band he was in had success.
Yes Furay should take responsibility. He says he was there cause it's his band. Messina seems to disagree.
I find it hilarious that neither Richie nor Jim wants to take responsibility for Randy being denied entry but clearly someone did it cause he wouldn't have quit otherwise! It all worked out for the best cause there would've been no Eagles that included Randy, and that would be a tragedy!!
I can excuse Jim Messina, but for a man that claims to be a "Man of Gawd," it is typical hypocrisy and telling lies. If you lie about the little things .... fuck him.
It's called lying. Money fortune and fame gives the "winner" the privilege to lie. It is like politics, religion, what ever. It is obvious bullshit - we know it, they know it. Messina looks like Hobit from the shire hiding a "precious", and Furay looks like a lying preacher. Very funny. They shit on their own legacy, and for what? To be RIGHT?
Every once in a while, someone who runs around the world proclaiming what a Christian he is, shows us who he really is. This is one of those times.
I love living in the 70s we had the greatest music and we had the Eagles The Doobie Brothers of Rod Stewart we just had some fantastic bands oh my gosh and we also had Randy one of the best singers he made the Eagles I don't care what anybody said that man had a voice which they all had good Harmony but Randy he was just so easy going❤😊😊
Rest In Peace beautiful Randy ❤
I love these Richie Furay interview segments.
Great decision by Randy.
Ok so no one wants to be accountable
I don’t blame Randy
Poco’s loss tenfold
To say that the group was fortunate that Rusty was humble and patient would be an understatement.
Loads of talent looking for musical perfection, bound to be conflict. Egos, also, maybe. I will go with musical PERFECTION.
Sure would like to hear the cuts with Randy from Picking up the Pieces.
I agree with you. I would love to hear them too. Per wiki, his bass and back-up vocals remain on that album, but his lead vocals were wiped.
@@grayfox2497 I’m not that hip to Poco, even though I saw them live when they were still Pogo.That being said, why would they wipe his lead vocals?I guess if he quit before the LP was released, it makes sense, but usually the writer of the song sings lead.Any more information on the wiping of his vocals?Thanks, I’m just curious who sang lead on the songs his vocals were erased.
@@Dougdenslowe714 George Grantham
Brother John. I’m with Mama at Hobby Lobby in SoCal. It sounds like being in a band is so stressful. I’m glad that I’m a retired HVAC mechanic. Great trio. Have a great Monday. God bless.
you know how easy it is to get 2 people to agree on what to do with your lives???
Mixing is a very difficult thing, and it really helps to have fresh ears for feedback that haven't been listening to the tracks over and over. I totally understand the policy of just Jimmy and Richie at first, then get the rest of the band to chime in. Plus, given the mood Richie was in after that tedious process strikes me as totally understandable.
Bwaaahaaa, Messina and Furay both blame the other one for doing it. Typical. The feeling is Furay's the main culprit. But then again, Messina looks like he could give two shits.
Little did Randy Meisner know that he'd have to soon deal with the Ego of Glenn Frey. That's equal to Messina & Furay combined.
If Randy wanted to quit,he had a reason to do this. Ritchie Furay was jeaulous too, don't like him.
Jim Randy Richie and Tim need to make one last poco record together. While there's still time.
One hit wonder Poco lost a member to hit sensation Eagles...I’d say Randy got an upgrade and Randy’s fans got “Take it to the Limit” 👍🙏
“One Hit Wonder”? Good night ! Give me a break !
Poco = Eagles in quality of music. I live both bands and will put Legend by Poco up against any Eagles album.
Randy was too good for Poco!
Timmy Schmit was not exactly a step down.
@@mungous1000 Well they were both very talented but it wasn't a step up either. Randy had the voice that was so recognizable to the fans on some of the Eagles hits Timothy B. just couldn't quite get them there. I remember seeing the Eagles after Randy left and I really thought they kind of sucked without him.
Poco = Eagles musically. Legend is as good as Desperado or Hotel California.
Looking back 50 years is a tuff deal;. For me, looking back 50 years there are many things I would do differently today. I was pretty tuff with bandmates back then probably said and done things that were bizarre, but that was 50 years ago. Both Richie and Jimmy were on a mission, locked in to an early mix session , to try to explain or blame them for behavior for something that took place 50 years ago in the moment is ridiculous. I can tell you this, even in my small studio today, when I am sitting listening to a session which I think is completed , staying focused is very difficult. The last thing I want or need is someone stopping by saying, oh you need to fix that guitar part. A few years back a friend recorded maybe 8 songs, I gave him a very ruff mix with all of the final tracks so he could listen to his vocals as we still had time to make a couple of changes to the vocals. A week later he called me and told me his friends said the mix was horrible and I needed to fix this and that. The guitars were too loud, not loud enough, blah blah blah. One of his friends actually told him to take the tracks to another person who knew what they were doing. MIXING is not a social time for listening and making comments. Thats what PRODUCERS do, they are CLOSED sessions. IF a Producer hears something that needs a fix, they will bring in the appropriate person to fix it. This is a really lame discussion and complaint. Final MIXING is not a group activity.
They were all very young still at the time and probably hadn’t learned that yet. At least much less experienced than they came to be.
Jim and Randy 2, Richie 1... Even so why not kiss and make up? We're talkin bout (birth of country rock) the next big thang here.. neither Jimmy or Richie valued Randy enough to make this right apparently
Why didn't Furay just ask him to come back a little later. I can see how Randy took it as insulting!
Obviously Randy’s feelings were hurt which is why he left the band. There would have been a more diplomatic way of saying things to keep everybody happy.
In part, it sounds like the reason why Richie's greater success never came is because of Richie.
As a lifelong Poco fan/nut, I can honestly say none of this stuff matters to me. It would have been interesting to see what a Poco with Randy would have been like, but after the Legacy reunion LP, I think we can get a little glimpse and it was great! Heck, even a Poco that had kept Jimmy may have been very different. On the flip side, a Poco without Tim would be hard to imagine, too. He made some great Poco songs.
Sure Furay is okay with not being at the initial mix because he doesn't want to be there. If for some reason he wanted to be there, he'd be furious if he was denied access until it was "balanced" by somebody else. So I feel Furay is being disingenuous. It's obvious that Furay and Messina did feel the other band members really mattered as THEY were the leaders. That's fine, but I understand why a talent like Meisner would walk away rather than be treated that way.
IMO Richie is right. A late friend of mine was a record producer and he would not let the artist in the room until he and the engineer were finished mixing. If anything, Richie should have been excluded as well. According to my late friend, you just can't do a proper mix with the artist (or anyone) looking over your shoulder. If the artist had feedback after he finished the initial mix, he was all ears and open to hearing what the artist had to say. But not during the process.
There's ALWAYS 3 sides to every story. His, hers/theirs, & the truth.
yeah i dont think i could deal with richie either
It's obvious he's a jerk. Check out his facebook page sometime.
Agree. Richie Furay the total jerk caused both Meisner and (later) Messina to quit Poco. Furay is wound tighter than a tourniquet; always preachin on others.
Preachin’ is what Pastor Furay’s been doing for decades in Boulder, CO.
Somebody’s lying😏🙄
Three very different takes and stories. The only for sure fact was they were just young and full of testosterone. Just 3-4 years later The Eagles started having those types of disagreements starting with Bernie Leadon leaving.
@sandy Winfield • it had a lot to do with the amount of drugs they were doing at that time the record companies decided that they needed to call all the shots for the bands as well as to what songs should and shouldn't be on the records I guess because record executives know what we the fans and record buying public want to hear. Record companies broke up a lot of great bands.
RANDY IS VERYYYY IMPORTANT PERSON IN THE HISTORY ON MUSIC ROCK IN U S A A BOY FROM 1961 HIS FIRST PRESENTATION HE RESCUE THE ROCK AND ROLL. AFTER ELVIS WAS GOING what asapGuys...........?????
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This happened 50 years ago but they seem to remember like it just happened a few weeks ago.
I remember some things clearly from 50 years ago. This was obviously a big issue for Randy.
Get the feeling Furey should have gone solo, maybe he could have made it big, trying to work with others didn´t seem to work. The way Randy Meisner was treated was low! (putting a dog on the alblum cover) Hopefully religion has made Furey a better person.
Of course Ranfy was part of the band míster Randy was right
This makes what Varg Vikernes did to Eronymous look like a walk in the park! Who knew Poco could be so brutal!
Someone mentioned that Randy once hinted that the recording studio story was just a cover for the real problem, which had to do with a girlfriend of Randy's, which is why everyone is being disingenuous.
Randy was married then.
Furry sounds like a dictator
You are Wrong Richie.
Always six versions of every story because not everyone feels or reacts the same to the same experience. 🤷♂️
Agreed. Something that wouldn’t bother one person can hurt a more sensitive person deeply.
So Richie kicked him out of the band, obviously.
Somebody should have helped with the mixing. While the songs and performances are good, the sound is thin.
As nice as Randy Meisner seemed and all I feel he quit too hastily. He had to audition for founding members Jim Messina & Richie Furay. He didn’t have a lot of experience, still had further ‘apprenticeship’ w The Stone Canyon band before the Eagles. He was VERY lucky to have been chosen by the proven Messina & Furay. They had A LOT of responsibility & pressure of forming the band ie: management, writing, producing etc. We see him as the Take it to the Limit guy etc which was years later w a lot of help from Glenn Frey and Don Henley.
If it was me, I would have kept my mouth shut, counted my blessings and let Jim and Richie make that first record.
That was a big lp and the Eagles was fate awaiting. Meisner needs Schmitt so it was fate...
Furay and Messina made split second decisions without considering their implications. Sure, if it was Furay's band he could have let the the zodiac killer in. Messina was doing his job but made an all too encompassing order. Furay didn't assert himself, afterall it was "my band". Bad choice, deisrespectful in the extreme but it all came out good. Still, Furay owes Randy an apology, if he hasn't made it yet. That's karma for you.
Richie…here’s the thing. If Randy Meisner and Jim Messina had never been in Poco I’ve probably never heard of you.
"I'm going to be there because I'm the sta .... it's my band." what a schmuck!
"Hear's the deal. Ya know when you make records it can be a tedious deal for a proud, arrogant asshole like Richie Furay because I'm so fucking special. I mean look at all the people I've fooled all my life. And besides, to admit that I'm wrong about anything is to admit that I'm not God. And I am. I'm Mr. Fucking Jesus Christ of Poco and Colorado.
I wanna hear about the fight between Glen and Randy. Sounds like a lot of people had problems with Glen.
@A.D. Hanson • Glen was an ass probably from all the Cocaine him and the others were doing by then but it did seem to me that Glen turned into a huge asshole about that time.
@@1979bobhd Glenn and Henley, both self absorbed jerks. And Henley remains one. But I love the music they made.
It's documented in the Eagles documentary. Basically Randy had been partying the night before a concert and didn't feel like singing Take it to the limit and Glenn was furious and fired Randy.
Asked not to come? By whom? It seems like you made decisions you weren't allowed to make. You were simply in the wrong and it's pretty petty for you to try to defend it even today.
Richie sorry
Don Henley said he refused to sing Take it To the Limit at a concert because he was too hungover from night before so Glenn got pissed and he fired him.
Just like alot of people from that church they are considered hypercritical aooo🤢💩