Great guide, couple of tips to make it even faster: - Have Aerith as caster and use L2/R2 to make her use the spells. That way, you can immediately run towards the next location with Cloud while waiting for the spell to finish. Also, at least at lv 70, she can one shot everything with just -ara, so you free up one Materia slot - Use a Chocobo to get from the 2nd to the 3rd enemy group. You don't need to wait for them, just hit R1 while sprinting and the Chocobo will catch up to you, allowing you to saddle up midsrpint. The example run in the video takes 95 seconds, the Chocobo saves ~5 seconds (other tip has less impact), with a bit of practice and input optimization, you can do 70-75 second runs.
Outside the 3-4 blue materia that take forever, I found the Queen Bee method to be the fastest to max everything (select chapter 13, start the Fluffy quest, and when you get to the boss, keep her alive so you can kill the Guard Bees she spawns. She spawns 4 at a time for 48 AP. I was able to kill the all with a perfect Yuffie Windstorm.)
@@sksjdjsl The Queen and the Workers tend to stay somewhat separated. And I have the other party members as frogs. You will kill her eventually though. But it's still quite fast.
I did this coming straight out of completing normal mode at lvl 5x. Couldn’t one shot the mobs and my switcast was still level one. But this still works really well. To compensate for some shortcomings, I used atb stagger materia, atb boost. Also threw on EXP materia and my characters got to level 70 in 20 minutes. To which then I was able to start one shotting the mobs. I also used aerith for this. If she ended up dying, I would just flee the battle and go in again without healing. I also had some materia slots to spare so for more damage I used magic focus. I also put up MP absorption. Great guide.
I'd recommend Chapter 11 instead. Chapter 12 forces you to pilot the Tiny Bronco all the way to Costa del Sol with no fast travel until you get there. Load up Chapter 11 and you can immediately call Cid to just fly you to Gongaga and fast travel to this spot instead. While you won't be able to fast travel between regions to respawn enemies, you can just Save/Load to respawn them instead.
You mean you don't like 45 minutes videos padded by a bunch of unnecessary stuff when the video can be a fraction of that? Amazing how that works, huh?
Nice run, reminds me of the farming route towards the end of the first game (Remake) where you were up against a ton of human enemies and just cast Fire/Fira with multicast. Good stuff!
Thank you for this tip! This is legit the fastest AP farming place! Got all my wind materia lvl 0 all the way to max lvl 3 in like 30-40 minutes I also went to nibelheim near the bridge coz there's also lots of monster nest next to each other as well
If you just save and reload its alot faster then fast traveling to another area in order the respawn the mobs. Also if you pair a maxed out ice materia with a mp absorbtion you dont have to use hp/mp.
I also do the same trick to farm materials, just be in a place where you usually find the material you are looking for, pick it, save, load and pick it up again.
Its faster if you map Blizzaga+Magnify to a shortcut and just run a lap in the Storehouse. From the start run to the group straight ahead, then left to the two Grandhorns, then outside to the Grangalans, then the 2 Frogs and Frightflowers back into the storehouse to the right. It saves about 10-15 seconds per run this way and your only losing 3ap per run. The travel from group 2 to group 3 takes too much time.
@@akinamori1615I’m actually wrong Lolol, I thought they meant intel on the map but it’s intel in the VR, I’ve tried it NG+ and I got 97 AP after 5 rounds. Throw a chocoband on and equip AP up plus another materia and you got nearly 500ap after 5 rounds for the 1 materia This video is massively mis marketed though as you don’t actually get that much AP per markers so lotheravantis method is the best I’ve found
@@ryanschmidt3494not technically true as the vr missions dont provide AP to backline chars. With this method, you get optimally around 100 AP x 7 chars for around 80 seconds.
Good guide, but as an additional AP source there's another couple mobs (Firaga ones) right by where you start, it's a very quick detour after the first fight for a bit more AP.
Unsure if you found it out or not yet but basically if you kill multiple in succession it just combines their total. So 3 enemies that give 6ap a piece is 18ap
When you said it had to be done before losing Cait, I was kicking myself...but it's just for extra materia slots lol. Had me worried for a minute, I can stand to miss out on a few before losing Aerith.
You gave such good advice. But you can just save and load to save time. Also you get a lot of zinc if you collect it. Which will take a lot more time but it’s every run you get zinc.
yes but when trying to max out all materia your better off just using a 6 slot armor otherwise your going to be changing materia constantly slowing you down, it would take longer to max out 6 materia using the chocobo armband than just a normal armor because of all the extra time menuing. the armband should only really be used when leveling something like swiftcast
Yea, was mostly thinking about just for the really AP expensive materia. Been using it for Revive in my first playthrough. Will probably use it for the stat boosters when I get to postgame. Haven't even gotten Swiftcast materia yet. I assume I'll be using the armband for that, too Gave me good memories of Scimitar and Apocalypse from og ff7
Couple of questions. Is this faster than the infinite respawning bee enemies from Nibelheim sidequest? And do you get more AP by playing on Hard mode or is it the same on any difficulty?
Wait, what do you need that much Gil for? Are there super-expensive items near the end of the game? I’m only in Chapter 8 and haven’t really seen anything worth spending Gil on aside from one sword so far.
@@TheGintama86 I know what he was doing, I was asking why he was doing it. I’m on Chapter 9 and haven’t seen anything worth farming Gil for so far, so I was asking if there was an actual reason why he was mastering materia to sell them, or if he was just doing it for the heck of it?
I was actually going to ask the same exact question. Also on chapter 9. Have a buttload of cash I barely even use. Just wondering what he’s saving all his Gil up for ?
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@@miaandkylie1961 Maybe the spare change materia 🤔 it probably can be broken haven't really tried
Some crafting materials for end game gear costs 10,000 gil EACH, and you need like 20 or them for one item. If you don't care about optional bosses on hard mode, then you probably won't need it.
SO THIS IS A NEW GAME PLUS FARM? because you don’t get SWIFT CAST MATERIA till after CHAPTER 12, you also don’t get the MAJORITY OF EQUIPMENT YOUR USING TILL LATE GAME.
Yeah they’re really no need to do this grind until you have all the materia that needs to be grinded in this way like swift cast and 2x magic focus and magic efficiency. Plus all the luck up and warding that you think you’ll need - otherwise you’ll spend more time switching out maxed materia than actually farming
And if you get aerith with the mphp and loaded up with magic up and enemy skill you won’t need to rest and can one shot them all with faster casted first level magic spells
Man… Chapter 12 is just two chapters away from the ending of the game! I just clicked in over 100 hours in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth and I’m in Chapter 9.
If you are playing all to clear before moving to each zone you end up exactly hitting lvl 50 at the end around and was about 130 hrs for me, chapter 13 was like 12hrs worth
I dont understand why you need the amulet when you only ever use 1 atb bar for your spell, also why you need Cait Sith, other than why to have more slots to level materia with?
awesome method I will try it!!! but yout'e doign it on hard mode or normal mode?? because in hard mode I guess yuu get get more exp but also gives you more ap??
You tell us that this can't be done past chapter 12, then tell us to use Swiftcast Materia, which isn't available until chapter 13 the earliest. I'm assuming you meant this to be a post-game, chapter select guide?
I don't even think the Exp and AP rates would be this high in the first playthrough. Chapter select raises gains, so, you really should only grind after beating the game.
Technically you can do it on Chapter 12, the problem is you will need to do it all over again to maximise Swiftcast (lvl 5 needs 18000 AP). The tutorial works, just the numbers are fake, it makes no sense to count the whole party ap earning when what matters is the amount you get per individual materia. I spent a whole afternoon yesterday doing it and per round I got 75AP and 150 with AP+ linked.
Alternate method, assuming you don’t have MAXed Quickcast: - Aerith is leader - Equip chocoking cape - Equip First Strike - Equip 2 Ice Materia - Pair each to an ice: Magnify, MP Absorb - Kill 1 chimera + 2 gigi with blizzaga - Kill 2 Grandhorns with blizzaga (the nearby ones) - Save/Load - Rinse/Repeat You never run out of MP this way and you don’t need to rely on HPMP which is risky without maxed Quickcast, which most people won’t have. Running the route in the video seems time consuming and if you have Quickcast maxed already you’re probably done with AP farming anyways honestly.
So what im noticing is base game u get xp nerfed and base ap, then when you hit post game aka chapter select you are not nerfed on xp gains anymore and you gain triple ap. The xp nerf is rough goes as high as 75% xp reduction. 25% per lvl higher then the enemy your fighting up to 3 lvls.
The base game nerfs your xp if your to high of a lvl, once u unlock chapter select regardless of difficulty you can get full xp from everything regardless of lvl plus the ap boost weather this is boosted even further on hard mode is a different story.
@@Primalliquid92 you get only a third of the AP, and i was wondering if i was doing something wrong. yeah no, wuld've been a big, should be said in the video. been basiclly wasting hours yesterday before i decided to come back to the video and scour the comment to find out if i was doing something wrong XD
Fantastic!!!! Playing the game now and loving it. Was wondering if you made or going to make a video on what materia on what character so the fighting is more fun. Thank you in advance
If you are lazy you can literally just do Chadley's Grasslands battle that has 5 rounds. After level 26 or so you can turn it on and walk away if you want to and your party will win every round on their own. I did this while cooking dinner and cleaning and just kept queuing up the battle every few minutes. Every round is 56 AP for your AP Up Materia, so you can get most of your early material maxed out this way while just taking care of chores around your house. You can also just use ATB items to have Cloud start every fight with a bar and Triple Slash and win every fight very quickly. I did this early but I will say this made the game very unchallenging going forward, as I was about 8 or 9 levels ahead of where I should probably be at with almost every pre-Junon materia maxed out. Wouldn't do it again.
I farmes that battle for about an hour towards the end of the junon area just to level up my materia. It made a lot of fights a ton easier just having Thundage etc. Bottomswell, or Twrror of the Deep as it's now called, was a pain in the demo, but a Thundaga dualcast from Aerith to easily stagger it a couple times made it relatively trivial.
@@Yhangus You want to just do the first one. It's a higher rate of reward. The 2nd one doesn't give enough AP or exp to be worth the extra time it takes to complete, and once you're a higher level and further in the story, there are much better ways to grind. The best grinds aren't even in the simulator, because in there only the 3 party members get exp, whereas if you're on the overworld, you can load all 7 characters full of materia.
I have two max level First Strike materia equipped but only get one and a quarter/third ATB charge so can’t cast Blizzaga. How come you’re starting with a full 2 ATB charges? Am I missing something?
This is neat but after completing the game and now half way through hard mode, I haven’t found gil to be too useful at all really… How did gil end up helping you the most?
How do you fast travel between regions without using the plane? Maybe I've not gone far enough to open that ability, but I cannot do it without using plane. I'm just at the end of the cosmo canyon quest that wants me to take the plane to nibelheim
@@XxWhIpLaSh18xX yep, I just made it to chapter 12 and Cid "modified" the tiny bronco ahah. I was afraid to go too far and lose Cait sith, but I think I'm in the right spot now to go max out all my materia in gongaga before he leaves the party.
Heads up: if you are doing this in chapter 12, you won't be able to get the swiftcast materia nor will you get this much AP. You get a third as much. It took me a while to find out that post game triples AP gain.
Cool, but I'm getting 78AP per round when you've said 100. Is this the correct number? With AP-Up it's 156 per round (double) on those 5 particular ones, but 100 vs 78 is quite the difference at 22% less than what you're saying. If this is still the best run then that's it, I guess
Am I missing something? Why is he getting "100 AP every run" when these enemies barely give 10 is this post game and I'm just slow because I haven't finished the game yet. Or did he just not explain this very well? Am confused
not sure why you don't just do sea horses in the coral region. they give 24 ap per fight and all you do is hit triangle to restart the fight. no running, no fast travel to reset.
Why the time materia? Also do we have to be in chapter 12 for it to work I’m in chapter nine and have all the characters and in that area but not as many materia slots
Yes. I went further and linked another 2 ice materias with HP Absorb and MP Absorb on the same person just to see if it works, and it does. Meaning you can set it up so that a cast of Blizzard is fast, heals HP+MP and hits all enemies. It's great but slots are probably better used for other stuff, it'll have its niche uses. You need 8 slots to do this.
So I’m checking one of my materia as I do this and I’m even doing the Grandhorns off to the side in the beginning and it’s only going up by 30+ each cycle. I feel like this area might’ve been patched cuz I’m not seeing 100 per cycle
Question, I’m doing this but after a while I noticed the amount of xp and ap are getting lower and lower, I have not beaten the game I’m just on chapter 9
Those AP numbers are so high because you already beat the game and after that point they triple AP experience. Did he mention that or did I miss something?
Those AP Numbers doesn't exist, what he is calculating is the amount your party can earn and not per single Materia. Each round you earn 75AP or 150 with AP+.
Does anyone know if he beat the game already?? Cuz im on chaptee 12 on my first play thru and im doin this run pretty well and i am not getting the numbers he was getting..
real quick, I've seen online that you have to complete ch 12 to get the Swiftcast Materia... I'm on the mission "A Gold Key" but I'm afraid if I finish I will not be able to farm... Any news on where you need to be for the Swiftcast Materia so you can farm?
Swiftcast is purchased from Chadley in the last proto-relic zone that only unlocks after you've obtained all of the other relics in the main zones. The last two in Corel, don't unlock until the end of chapter 12.
I have a discrepency between how much EXP and AP this guy's getting and what I'm getting. For example, then 3 grangalans gives him 1368 EXP 18AP and 630 gil. I only get 171 EXP, 6AP, and 630 gil . so exactly 8x less exp and 3x less AP, but same gil. changing the difficult from easy/hard/dynamic does not vary this amount either. I am just at the beginning of chapter 12, havent beaten game. What am I missing here?
@@eduardomamede9779 im chapter 12 on hard mode. and only need 3 trophys for the platin one. gil is totally useless. thats why im wondering because u said gil farming. i had never need gil
Thank you for this. I’m trying to max all my materia for the final fight in Hard mode and was restarting chapter 13 and killing the swuad in the temple entrance. Rinse & repeat on Easy mode to make it quicker. And although it yields results, your methods does as well, and quicker
This works hella! Thank you 🙏 Improvement Ideas: 1. Reset in Nibel at Gjallar Bridge as there are two mob groups right next to it then go back to Gongaga. 2. Set Fire and Ice to swiftcast and use two magnify orbs (if you can) for fire and ice separately. 3. Set magnified fire/ice spells to shortcuts 4. Right before the Grangalan’s in Gongaga, call your chocobo, then battle, then zoom over to the Grandhorn/Frightflowers
I found the best place to be Corel region outside the gold saucer and where you drive the buggy around. The little cactuar there gives you 12 each. If you find three of them thats 36. Add the AP boost, then it's 72.
buying materials to craft the best gear. it's more efficient time wise to buy all the materials you need rather then just hoping it spawns in the world.
Love your videos, as always, but hate your clickbaiting and false headlines. Why call it 42000 ap/h, when it's 6000? Just because it's 7 characters? Well if so, why not multiply with the amount of Materia slots to make it sound even better. With this method, you get 6000 ap/h, not more (if not using AP Up). And then you write, maxing any Materia in 30 minutes, which would mean that the Materia tops up att 3000 AP, which you sure do know many Materias don't. Keep making great videos, but stick to being honest, both with your numbers and titles. I use your guides in most rpgs, but I get frustrated every time due to the misinformation.
So true! He is like calculating based off of Comet or something. Many higher level Materia have multiple levels that equate to huge cumulative AP requirements to max, not just the ones he mentioned. 6000 AP per hour assuming you nailing the postgame run once every minute, including menu navigation and fast travel load times, lol.
Great guide, couple of tips to make it even faster:
- Have Aerith as caster and use L2/R2 to make her use the spells. That way, you can immediately run towards the next location with Cloud while waiting for the spell to finish. Also, at least at lv 70, she can one shot everything with just -ara, so you free up one Materia slot
- Use a Chocobo to get from the 2nd to the 3rd enemy group. You don't need to wait for them, just hit R1 while sprinting and the Chocobo will catch up to you, allowing you to saddle up midsrpint.
The example run in the video takes 95 seconds, the Chocobo saves ~5 seconds (other tip has less impact), with a bit of practice and input optimization, you can do 70-75 second runs.
00:00 - Intro
00:36 - Requirements and Overview
02:12 - Location
02:25 - Basic Materia/Equipment Setup
03:48 - Farm Run Explanation
05:06 - Resetting the run
05:31 - Additional Information
07:25 - Outro
Thank you!
Outside the 3-4 blue materia that take forever, I found the Queen Bee method to be the fastest to max everything (select chapter 13, start the Fluffy quest, and when you get to the boss, keep her alive so you can kill the Guard Bees she spawns. She spawns 4 at a time for 48 AP. I was able to kill the all with a perfect Yuffie Windstorm.)
How do you ensure she doesn't kill the queen bee included??
@@sksjdjsl The Queen and the Workers tend to stay somewhat separated. And I have the other party members as frogs. You will kill her eventually though. But it's still quite fast.
I miss the magic pots ...lmao most ff7 vets know what I'm talking sbout
Them and Movers in the weird flesh wheat field of the northern cave!
Honestly I always found grinding outside of Mideel to be way better materia grinding than magic pots in the crater.
Good god, so much nostalgia. I was down there hours upon hours grinding to get all of my party members a full set of master material.
@@vidyastuff3509 was coming here to say the same thing it was like 6 enemies with 6 AP each right?
The magic pots and the movers ! Or the bouncy balls 😂
Cant wait for the magic pot/mover farm in part 3.
You CAN magnify in a shortcut: Set the spell to a shortcut in the menu and then hit L1 to toggle Magnify.
I did this coming straight out of completing normal mode at lvl 5x. Couldn’t one shot the mobs and my switcast was still level one. But this still works really well. To compensate for some shortcomings, I used atb stagger materia, atb boost. Also threw on EXP materia and my characters got to level 70 in 20 minutes. To which then I was able to start one shotting the mobs. I also used aerith for this. If she ended up dying, I would just flee the battle and go in again without healing. I also had some materia slots to spare so for more damage I used magic focus. I also put up MP absorption. Great guide.
Happy to see some footage on this. Its funny cuz were all enjoying the game too much to post tips😂💯
Cait Sith riding his stuffed moogle is absolutely adorable! So cute.
I'd recommend Chapter 11 instead. Chapter 12 forces you to pilot the Tiny Bronco all the way to Costa del Sol with no fast travel until you get there. Load up Chapter 11 and you can immediately call Cid to just fly you to Gongaga and fast travel to this spot instead. While you won't be able to fast travel between regions to respawn enemies, you can just Save/Load to respawn them instead.
In OG 7, I used the small island with the pill bugs with multiplying growth rate. It did mean that there were only 4 slots total.
Clear, to the point, addressing caveats and providing optional methods for said caveats.
Wish more guides were like that. Good job.
You mean you don't like 45 minutes videos padded by a bunch of unnecessary stuff when the video can be a fraction of that? Amazing how that works, huh?
Nice run, reminds me of the farming route towards the end of the first game (Remake) where you were up against a ton of human enemies and just cast Fire/Fira with multicast. Good stuff!
Thank you for this tip!
This is legit the fastest AP farming place!
Got all my wind materia lvl 0 all the way to max lvl 3 in like 30-40 minutes
I also went to nibelheim near the bridge coz there's also lots of monster nest next to each other as well
You can also save and reload to reset monsters.
Grasslands Intel 2 on repeat, use Aerith with Fira and Firaga mapped, clear it out in 30 seconds and get around 50 AP
@@lotheravanti4295 bro
There is 1 extra fight if you go left before the 2nd fight. 4 frogs just use blizzaga to kill them
theres another extra fight of 2 grandhorn if you go right after first fight
Just use triple slash on the frogs dude...blizzaga really?????😂😂😂😂
If you just save and reload its alot faster then fast traveling to another area in order the respawn the mobs. Also if you pair a maxed out ice materia with a mp absorbtion you dont have to use hp/mp.
5:10 I think it is faster to save and load the save to respawn the enemies.
I also do the same trick to farm materials, just be in a place where you usually find the material you are looking for, pick it, save, load and pick it up again.
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Where did you get all those time materia?!
Its faster if you map Blizzaga+Magnify to a shortcut and just run a lap in the Storehouse. From the start run to the group straight ahead, then left to the two Grandhorns, then outside to the Grangalans, then the 2 Frogs and Frightflowers back into the storehouse to the right. It saves about 10-15 seconds per run this way and your only losing 3ap per run. The travel from group 2 to group 3 takes too much time.
To speed it up a bit more u can put for blizzaga as quick selects in the shortcut menu
quick select saddly does not use magnify
@@Primalliquid92 Ugh, I found that out last night, it stinks!!!!!
You can map it then push L1 to add magnify to the spell.
@@Primalliquid92 You can deeeefinitely map magnify to quick cast :)
@@Ch3w12 Oh heck, you can. Awesome, thank you!
i appreciate the all the "time materia improved's" at the beginning, indicating that this will be saving us a Lot of time :]
Thanks a bunch using it now finished lvl 70 And all quests farming for fun heheh party animal was hardest lol
Gotta love that you can depend on PL to hit you with the game breaking mechanics
Grasslands Intel 2 on repeat, use Aerith with Fira and Firaga mapped, clear it out in 30 seconds and get around 50 AP
Just tried this, it’s 18ap even with new game +
@@ryanschmidt3494 Is that with triple AP gain? Or just normal?
@@akinamori1615I’m actually wrong Lolol, I thought they meant intel on the map but it’s intel in the VR, I’ve tried it NG+ and I got 97 AP after 5 rounds.
Throw a chocoband on and equip AP up plus another materia and you got nearly 500ap after 5 rounds for the 1 materia
This video is massively mis marketed though as you don’t actually get that much AP per markers so lotheravantis method is the best I’ve found
@@ryanschmidt3494not technically true as the vr missions dont provide AP to backline chars. With this method, you get optimally around 100 AP x 7 chars for around 80 seconds.
Awesome as always. Im a long way off (just got to Junon but Im level 35) but Ill definitely use this once I unlock Gongaga.
Good guide, but as an additional AP source there's another couple mobs (Firaga ones) right by where you start, it's a very quick detour after the first fight for a bit more AP.
4:19 seconds in - you get 18 AP with that. How are you getting that much? New game plus or something?
Unsure if you found it out or not yet but basically if you kill multiple in succession it just combines their total. So 3 enemies that give 6ap a piece is 18ap
Also hard mode is more ap
When you said it had to be done before losing Cait, I was kicking myself...but it's just for extra materia slots lol. Had me worried for a minute, I can stand to miss out on a few before losing Aerith.
You gave such good advice. But you can just save and load to save time. Also you get a lot of zinc if you collect it. Which will take a lot more time but it’s every run you get zinc.
You missed another mob inside the gated area, near the first move you farm. More grandhorns. That makes 5 mobs in close proximity.
Friendly tip: The Chocobo Armband is a two slot piece of armor that has the triple AP property
yes but when trying to max out all materia your better off just using a 6 slot armor otherwise your going to be changing materia constantly slowing you down, it would take longer to max out 6 materia using the chocobo armband than just a normal armor because of all the extra time menuing. the armband should only really be used when leveling something like swiftcast
Yea, was mostly thinking about just for the really AP expensive materia. Been using it for Revive in my first playthrough. Will probably use it for the stat boosters when I get to postgame. Haven't even gotten Swiftcast materia yet. I assume I'll be using the armband for that, too
Gave me good memories of Scimitar and Apocalypse from og ff7
@@Primalliquid92would it be wise to save those time consuming materias last and then use the Chocobo Armband?
OMG! Thanks so much, that was a missing point on the tutorial, because the amount you earn individually still very low to rise the higher ap materias.
Couple of questions. Is this faster than the infinite respawning bee enemies from Nibelheim sidequest?
And do you get more AP by playing on Hard mode or is it the same on any difficulty?
I've seen on a different video that difficulty level does not change the amount of ap and xp you get, so just put it on easy.
@@shadowmosez1804 XP is definitely increased on harder difficulties.
Playing the Ultimate Party Animal Coliseum Battle on Dynamic mode. Caused me to lvl up 8x in 3 hrs.
Wait, what do you need that much Gil for? Are there super-expensive items near the end of the game? I’m only in Chapter 8 and haven’t really seen anything worth spending Gil on aside from one sword so far.
Think he said he levels up time materia or something and sells it
@@TheGintama86 I know what he was doing, I was asking why he was doing it. I’m on Chapter 9 and haven’t seen anything worth farming Gil for so far, so I was asking if there was an actual reason why he was mastering materia to sell them, or if he was just doing it for the heck of it?
I was actually going to ask the same exact question. Also on chapter 9. Have a buttload of cash I barely even use. Just wondering what he’s saving all his Gil up for ?
@@miaandkylie1961 Maybe the spare change materia 🤔 it probably can be broken haven't really tried
Some crafting materials for end game gear costs 10,000 gil EACH, and you need like 20 or them for one item. If you don't care about optional bosses on hard mode, then you probably won't need it.
SO THIS IS A NEW GAME PLUS FARM? because you don’t get SWIFT CAST MATERIA till after CHAPTER 12, you also don’t get the MAJORITY OF EQUIPMENT YOUR USING TILL LATE GAME.
And? The Magic Pots in the original were SUPER late game. Literally 2 rooms before the final boss
Although it's after chapter 12 you can still get swiftcast during chapter 13
You shouldn't grind for AP until after beating the game... You get a 3x multiplier for beating the game.
Yeah they’re really no need to do this grind until you have all the materia that needs to be grinded in this way like swift cast and 2x magic focus and magic efficiency. Plus all the luck up and warding that you think you’ll need - otherwise you’ll spend more time switching out maxed materia than actually farming
And if you get aerith with the mphp and loaded up with magic up and enemy skill you won’t need to rest and can one shot them all with faster casted first level magic spells
Man… Chapter 12 is just two chapters away from the ending of the game! I just clicked in over 100 hours in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth and I’m in Chapter 9.
Same I'm chap 10 80 hours
If you are playing all to clear before moving to each zone you end up exactly hitting lvl 50 at the end around and was about 130 hrs for me, chapter 13 was like 12hrs worth
Thanks, seems alright. Also I can never think of what a Stoke accent sounds like until I hear it. weird lol
Maaaaaaaan everytime i need any guides with JRPGs i can always rely on your vids! Thanks PL!
I dont understand why you need the amulet when you only ever use 1 atb bar for your spell, also why you need Cait Sith, other than why to have more slots to level materia with?
Blizzaga costs 2 ATB to cast. Cait Sith gets you 12 more materia slots, which means more materia leveled at once, which equals more gil faster.
This was so helpful. Thank you
You're so welcome!
awesome method I will try it!!! but yout'e doign it on hard mode or normal mode?? because in hard mode I guess yuu get get more exp but also gives you more ap??
You tell us that this can't be done past chapter 12, then tell us to use Swiftcast Materia, which isn't available until chapter 13 the earliest. I'm assuming you meant this to be a post-game, chapter select guide?
Yes this is a chapter select guide
I don't even think the Exp and AP rates would be this high in the first playthrough. Chapter select raises gains, so, you really should only grind after beating the game.
Technically you can do it on Chapter 12, the problem is you will need to do it all over again to maximise Swiftcast (lvl 5 needs 18000 AP). The tutorial works, just the numbers are fake, it makes no sense to count the whole party ap earning when what matters is the amount you get per individual materia. I spent a whole afternoon yesterday doing it and per round I got 75AP and 150 with AP+ linked.
@@eduardomamede9779 How were your results? I did it for a little bit but found it wasn't worth it.
After 12 because Caith Sith. More slots. And after beating the game for 13 chapter select on hard por triple xp
Alternate method, assuming you don’t have MAXed Quickcast:
- Aerith is leader
- Equip chocoking cape
- Equip First Strike
- Equip 2 Ice Materia
- Pair each to an ice: Magnify, MP Absorb
- Kill 1 chimera + 2 gigi with blizzaga
- Kill 2 Grandhorns with blizzaga (the nearby ones)
- Save/Load
- Rinse/Repeat
You never run out of MP this way and you don’t need to rely on HPMP which is risky without maxed Quickcast, which most people won’t have.
Running the route in the video seems time consuming and if you have Quickcast maxed already you’re probably done with AP farming anyways honestly.
So what im noticing is base game u get xp nerfed and base ap, then when you hit post game aka chapter select you are not nerfed on xp gains anymore and you gain triple ap. The xp nerf is rough goes as high as 75% xp reduction. 25% per lvl higher then the enemy your fighting up to 3 lvls.
dont you mean the other way? Hard mode gets a buff in XP? cos saying nerfED implies you can do hard mode first which isn't the case.
The base game nerfs your xp if your to high of a lvl, once u unlock chapter select regardless of difficulty you can get full xp from everything regardless of lvl plus the ap boost weather this is boosted even further on hard mode is a different story.
Is a let’s play or 100% run in the future? Livestream?
How do you have the Cetran Bracer on cloud and still have Cait Sith in the party? Don't you lose him in chapter 12 and isn't the bracer in chapter 13?
you didn’t mention you have to beat the game first and use chapter select to get these numbers
even without completing the game its still the fastest method, completing the game just makes it even faster
@@Primalliquid92 you get only a third of the AP, and i was wondering if i was doing something wrong. yeah no, wuld've been a big, should be said in the video.
been basiclly wasting hours yesterday before i decided to come back to the video and scour the comment to find out if i was doing something wrong XD
@@Primalliquid92 Yea, it wasn't mentioned this is hard mode.
Figures I don't have the Choco Cape. I knew I'd be missing something locked behind minigames.
At least it's one of the better and fun mini games! Chocobo racing is literally Mario Cart!
Fantastic!!!! Playing the game now and loving it. Was wondering if you made or going to make a video on what materia on what character so the fighting is more fun. Thank you in advance
If you are lazy you can literally just do Chadley's Grasslands battle that has 5 rounds. After level 26 or so you can turn it on and walk away if you want to and your party will win every round on their own.
I did this while cooking dinner and cleaning and just kept queuing up the battle every few minutes. Every round is 56 AP for your AP Up Materia, so you can get most of your early material maxed out this way while just taking care of chores around your house.
You can also just use ATB items to have Cloud start every fight with a bar and Triple Slash and win every fight very quickly.
I did this early but I will say this made the game very unchallenging going forward, as I was about 8 or 9 levels ahead of where I should probably be at with almost every pre-Junon materia maxed out. Wouldn't do it again.
I farmes that battle for about an hour towards the end of the junon area just to level up my materia. It made a lot of fights a ton easier just having Thundage etc. Bottomswell, or Twrror of the Deep as it's now called, was a pain in the demo, but a Thundaga dualcast from Aerith to easily stagger it a couple times made it relatively trivial.
Which Intel is that for grasslands 1 or 2
@@Yhangus You want to just do the first one. It's a higher rate of reward. The 2nd one doesn't give enough AP or exp to be worth the extra time it takes to complete, and once you're a higher level and further in the story, there are much better ways to grind.
The best grinds aren't even in the simulator, because in there only the 3 party members get exp, whereas if you're on the overworld, you can load all 7 characters full of materia.
Just play in Dynamic difficulty and the enemies always match your level, can't outlevel it and then it won't feel unchallenging
Great video!
I have two max level First Strike materia equipped but only get one and a quarter/third ATB charge so can’t cast Blizzaga. How come you’re starting with a full 2 ATB charges? Am I missing something?
Chocobo cape item from Gold saucer (Golden Cup run) give you a atb segment
@@guilhermesouzafelipedesaoj3647 Thanks!
You can map the spells to quick slots to save some time
This is neat but after completing the game and now half way through hard mode, I haven’t found gil to be too useful at all really… How did gil end up helping you the most?
How do you fast travel between regions without using the plane? Maybe I've not gone far enough to open that ability, but I cannot do it without using plane. I'm just at the end of the cosmo canyon quest that wants me to take the plane to nibelheim
Gotta keep playing until the plane becomes the boat then you can fast travel freely
@@XxWhIpLaSh18xX yep, I just made it to chapter 12 and Cid "modified" the tiny bronco ahah. I was afraid to go too far and lose Cait sith, but I think I'm in the right spot now to go max out all my materia in gongaga before he leaves the party.
Hi im slightly confused, when you get a group of 3 enemies you get 18-21 AP, im only getting 7 from each group. Am i doing something wrong?
He already completed the game and Is in the hard mode, where they give you more AP and exp
Heads up: if you are doing this in chapter 12, you won't be able to get the swiftcast materia nor will you get this much AP. You get a third as much.
It took me a while to find out that post game triples AP gain.
How do you manage mana though?
Cool, but I'm getting 78AP per round when you've said 100. Is this the correct number? With AP-Up it's 156 per round (double) on those 5 particular ones, but 100 vs 78 is quite the difference at 22% less than what you're saying. If this is still the best run then that's it, I guess
How much Magnify materias can you get in rebrith?
2 I believe! Cait sith has one automatically then you get the other from Cosmo Canyon side quest
Why are you not using magnify on the short cut is it just for the video?
Am I missing something? Why is he getting "100 AP every run" when these enemies barely give 10 is this post game and I'm just slow because I haven't finished the game yet. Or did he just not explain this very well? Am confused
its postgame, at the end of the video i mention "if you're not in postgame your numbers will be lower"
As usual with most of his videos, he doesn't explain it very well.
@@Primalliquid92 bruh
Ah thanks was gonna sub till was said he doesn't mean to explain everything fully.
Question, how and where did you get all those armors with so many slots for materia? Anyhow, thank you for your video.
He probably used game genie or save wizard as they call it to obtain everything, find glitches for us to play !
Does the triple ap apply to easy or is it only hard?
not sure why you don't just do sea horses in the coral region. they give 24 ap per fight and all you do is hit triangle to restart the fight. no running, no fast travel to reset.
how do you get 21ap in cliffside? i only get 7ap on the mantis and 2 wyrm
Why the time materia? Also do we have to be in chapter 12 for it to work I’m in chapter nine and have all the characters and in that area but not as many materia slots
you wait for chapter 12 because you have more materia available to level and alot more materia slots
You can sell Maxed Time Materia for massive amount of Gil
@@danzoEX What the hell does anyone need Gil for?
So a blizzard linked with swiftcast will stack with a separate blizzard linked with magnify?
Yes. I went further and linked another 2 ice materias with HP Absorb and MP Absorb on the same person just to see if it works, and it does. Meaning you can set it up so that a cast of Blizzard is fast, heals HP+MP and hits all enemies. It's great but slots are probably better used for other stuff, it'll have its niche uses. You need 8 slots to do this.
Where do you get swiftcast from.
how are you getting swiftcast by chapter 12? don't you need to get it from gilgamesh island?
it's a cleared save file with chapter selection
Wait isnt Swiftcast obtained from Chadley after completing the Gilgamesh Trials in Meridain Ocean thats after chapter 12? How is this possible?
It's a complete file with chapter select unlocked.
So I’m checking one of my materia as I do this and I’m even doing the Grandhorns off to the side in the beginning and it’s only going up by 30+ each cycle. I feel like this area might’ve been patched cuz I’m not seeing 100 per cycle
This is a post-game thing, after you beat the game you are already getting triple ap and then you use everything mentioned
kinda surprised you didn't put blizzaga on a r1 hotkey xD
Magnify doesn’t work on hotkeys
@@AnomMona-d8g well that sucks >:(
@@AnomMona-d8gYes it does. Set the spell to a shortcut and then hit L1 to turn on Magnify.
Question, I’m doing this but after a while I noticed the amount of xp and ap are getting lower and lower, I have not beaten the game I’m just on chapter 9
AP shouldnt change but EXP degrades when you outlevel mobs
Ok cool thanks
Stop fast traveling, run a little bit away from where the mob spawns, save and then load the game. They all spawn and so do the items you can pick up.
I'm seeing you get 18 AP for that fight just outside the fence. I only get 6. How is that possible?
Probably easy or normal, plus beating the game doubles or triples AP, plus chocobo Armband triples AP
What do you need all the money for btw? Is spare change like fucking amazing with certain blue materia?
Buying mats for crafting or buying materia i guess
Those AP numbers are so high because you already beat the game and after that point they triple AP experience. Did he mention that or did I miss something?
Those AP Numbers doesn't exist, what he is calculating is the amount your party can earn and not per single Materia. Each round you earn 75AP or 150 with AP+.
Ok this explains it! I rewatched the video thinking I missed a piece of equipment
Does anyone know if he beat the game already?? Cuz im on chaptee 12 on my first play thru and im doin this run pretty well and i am not getting the numbers he was getting..
Yeah this is a complete file with chapter select unlocked. 😊
@@NaythonCross cool thanks 👍👍
real quick, I've seen online that you have to complete ch 12 to get the Swiftcast Materia... I'm on the mission "A Gold Key" but I'm afraid if I finish I will not be able to farm... Any news on where you need to be for the Swiftcast Materia so you can farm?
Swiftcast is purchased from Chadley in the last proto-relic zone that only unlocks after you've obtained all of the other relics in the main zones. The last two in Corel, don't unlock until the end of chapter 12.
so I can finish the the mission without moving forward to ch 13. TY
@@brettminor6762
I have a discrepency between how much EXP and AP this guy's getting and what I'm getting.
For example, then 3 grangalans gives him 1368 EXP 18AP and 630 gil. I only get 171 EXP, 6AP, and 630 gil . so exactly 8x less exp and 3x less AP, but same gil. changing the difficult from easy/hard/dynamic does not vary this amount either. I am just at the beginning of chapter 12, havent beaten game. What am I missing here?
beat the game and you gt a multiplier
Do you have to be level 70 to do this or can I do this in my first playthrough when I get to this part of the game?
technically you can do it as soon as you get here but it will be much much slower, overall you'd be better off just continuing with the story
Hi! Is this done in hard mode or can it be done on normal?
Are there no guides like with the last game?
Question, what are Gil for ? tossing skill is caped :(
Is there a something hidden to do with Gil :)
i never bought smth from the stores xD
It's the in game currency, so you can buy new equipments and materias. Just for curiosity, how far are you in the game?
@@eduardomamede9779 im chapter 12 on hard mode. and only need 3 trophys for the platin one. gil is totally useless. thats why im wondering because u said gil farming. i had never need gil
Thank you for this. I’m trying to max all my materia for the final fight in Hard mode and was restarting chapter 13 and killing the swuad in the temple entrance. Rinse & repeat on Easy mode to make it quicker. And although it yields results, your methods does as well, and quicker
This works hella! Thank you 🙏
Improvement Ideas:
1. Reset in Nibel at Gjallar Bridge as there are two mob groups right next to it then go back to Gongaga.
2. Set Fire and Ice to swiftcast and use two magnify orbs (if you can) for fire and ice separately.
3. Set magnified fire/ice spells to shortcuts
4. Right before the Grangalan’s in Gongaga, call your chocobo, then battle, then zoom over to the Grandhorn/Frightflowers
I found the best place to be Corel region outside the gold saucer and where you drive the buggy around.
The little cactuar there gives you 12 each. If you find three of them thats 36. Add the AP boost, then it's 72.
Is this the new game plus like select chapter?
Why do I have only 2 Magnify? Completed side quest and combat simulator battle, think I missed the cait sith one, is it possible??
defeat gilgamesh which unlocks new fights in the coliseum and the sim
what do you need mass amounts of gil for ?
buying materials to craft the best gear. it's more efficient time wise to buy all the materials you need rather then just hoping it spawns in the world.
lol the way he said 12 made me think of the one guy who said “SHE SAID SHE WAS 12!!”😂
Good stuff!
Love your videos, as always, but hate your clickbaiting and false headlines.
Why call it 42000 ap/h, when it's 6000? Just because it's 7 characters? Well if so, why not multiply with the amount of Materia slots to make it sound even better. With this method, you get 6000 ap/h, not more (if not using AP Up).
And then you write, maxing any Materia in 30 minutes, which would mean that the Materia tops up att 3000 AP, which you sure do know many Materias don't.
Keep making great videos, but stick to being honest, both with your numbers and titles.
I use your guides in most rpgs, but I get frustrated every time due to the misinformation.
So true! He is like calculating based off of Comet or something. Many higher level Materia have multiple levels that equate to huge cumulative AP requirements to max, not just the ones he mentioned. 6000 AP per hour assuming you nailing the postgame run once every minute, including menu navigation and fast travel load times, lol.
Seriously that is SUPER misleading. Why bother multiply it per character when they all receive the AP other than to look impressive and get clicks?
I'm confused. It says do this in chapter 12, but you can't get swiftcast until chapter 13?
This is after you beat it. You get a huge XP and AP boost once the story is finished. Even bigger when you start NG+
How did you get so many time materia lol??
I beat the game and only have 2
You can buy more from the Materia Vendor at Cosmo Canyon
Are u playing on hard mode for this?
No
Does this work on hard mode post game will I still be able to one shot all the mobs?
might want to update the video they nerfed how much xp and ap you get been getting around 150xp and 6 to 7 ap per pack now