I can see the internal email now. "If this video does well, let's have Caco do a test drive wearing nothing but a towel and a shower cap - clearly nothing can go wrong"
he's always the benchmark on local reviews, I had never ever seen any local reviews (no offense) that's as informative and very entertaining as AutoDeal with Caco on the on the helm.. its always a treat when he presents..
Looks like the grey Atto3 is the lower-range Dynamic model with a 50kWh battery, while your test unit is the Premium variant with 60kWh. That could explain a large part of the disparity in the remaining battery % at your pit stop.
EV chargers are somehow increasing throughout the country. If chargers were available down south, EVs buyers will definitely increase. Most of the EVs are tested only up north, in exception to Nissan Kicks that they drove from Manila to Misibis. Hope to see more EVs being driven to Quezon and Bicol, where roads are more challenging.
Meron sa SM Sto. Tomas, Lucena, Naga, Ayala Legazpi. Also, madami ng e-bikes, etc. kung saan saan. So marami na din nagsulputang EV charging stations na maliliit. Plus, you can use supplied charger to charge in any outlet, matagal nga lang. Good sya if you stay in a hotel.
@@DenDen-ph Napa-search ako bigla about SM chargers. Yeah good thing SMs now have the setup. It is still kind of limited though and hassle na din diba kase if you are an EV owner, mas mainam kung may mga chargers na sa mga gas stations. One more thing, most of the travelers down south prefer to travel night time. If the only options are SM chargers, hindi na sila available after the mall hours. But for sure eventually magkakaroon yan. I just hope that won't take more years before it it could have. Sa bansa kase where I am now kahit maliliit na gasoline stations and R&Rs may mga EV chargers na. Very convenient talaga and you won't have the stress finding the plugs if you ran out of juice.
@@jesicolarina0402 I get your point but it all depends on the range ng EV. With BYD Atto 3, it has 400+Km range. So in between, pwede naman. Plus, you will actually go to these places to eat as rest stop, at mas conducive pa ang environment.
I spend roughly p16k/ month on diesel. If i install at least a 7 kva solar system(without batteries ) at home, it would cost only p200-250k. Suppose I buy an EV, i would not spend a penny on fuelling the car. The ROI for the solar installation is less than 2 years. The price of an Atto is comparable to an ICE CUV. The blade battery of BYD is safe and lasts 8 tp 15 years (6,000 cycles)... Buying EV is a no brainer.
What isn't shown after that 'leap' on the beach is how I badly strained my left butt cheek and was limping for about 5 minutes. Apparently, age isn't just a number.
Caco forgot to mention that although makakatipid ka sa mas mabagal na charger, mas matatagalan ka naman magcharge. Yung fast charger nga 50mins na kung tama pagkaalala ko, edi lalo yung lower powered chargers. Importante ito kung nasa road trip ka
@@natzcam2219 the charging time is the issue. it takes so much of your road trip time....at selected pa ang pit stops mo...nagising kang maaga para mas maaga kang maka byahe at makapamasyal, tapos matatanghalian ka kasi kailangan mong mag charge along the way... or kung nasa destination na kayo, hindi kayo makapag dire-diretsong pasyal kasi kelangan mo i-charge nanaman...not convenient at all.. lagi mo iniintindi... paano pag pila pa sa charging stations....paano pag yung tinulugan mo day before ng long road trip mo nawalan ng power overnight. so many things to mind, para maging primary car mo
Superchargers degrade the battery much faster. It is better to charge at home..install about 7kva of solar panels, charge using 6.2 KVA chargers, although it may take 10 hours, but charging will be free.
@@christopherpastelero9147 ilang times ka ba pumapasyal ng ganun ka layo sa isang taon? It's like saying I won't buy a sedan because I can't take if off-road when in reality I've only been offroading once a year at most. Same logic, would you prefer a much more expensive fuel car always because of a once a vacation thing? Or rather save on gas because 99% of your time is on the metro anyway? Like saving by buying a cheap sedan vs buying a 4x4 offroader for that once a year thing? Get my point?
@@christopherpastelero9147 and it's not like a sedan either which can NEVER go off road, by comparison and this video as proof an ev can actually be used for a car trip vacation. You just need to plan better ika nga by caco. What's with people like you having difficulty planning a trip anyways? It's part of the fun for me and quite rewarding at the end.
I think you should’ve charged upto 80% only to take good advantage of a fast charger, and it will be cheaper and economical, it will charge slower if upto 100%.What I observed in the video, is how often you have to charge, and that means more travel cost.
Practical only for city driving where you can go the enitre day without needing to charge and go charge at home overnight. Infra for evs still needs to be developed and chargers must be improved exponentially. 50mins is really bad. But as I said inside the city I think they'd do quite well.
Nice to know that Philippines is starting to adopt electric cars, with the price of petrol this days that's good news. I experience long trip with our Tesla Model 3 from Ontario to Quebec last week here in Canada. We had to stop 3 times to top-up, good enough to have a bathroom, get some food and walk our pug. No range anxiety since the charging network is efficient.
14:25 still not practical because you have to charge the battery for 50+ minutes versus 3-5min gas fill up. It cost me time. And thats where the impracticality occurs.
Same here. They just wasted 50 plus minutes only for charging and its expensive to charge 35 per kwh and his telling us that if you charge it in the house its 2 pesos per kwh. Like what kind of explanation is that? For sure they’re paid to promote this video.
@@natzcam2219 nonetheless, the problem still occurs. Wasted time. Which majority ng mga tao ayaw sa ganun. Imbes nasa dagat ka na or nakapag checkin na kayo, since nagchacharge ka pa ng EV for 50 mins, lost time mo na yun.
@@infelnetus Ill have to agree with that, but if you have a charger at home and you charge overnight, and your not planning on a 1000km trip then an EV is a win
This was a fun little experiment. Although EVs can be cheaper than ICE vehicles when it comes to consumption costs, there is the often-overlooked factor of time. Sure, you can get marginally cheaper rates charging compared to fueling up, but the time it takes to top up a fuel tank is significantly faster than that of an EV battery. And to Caco's point, although you can charge at much slower rates to drive down the costs, know that this will result in even longer charging times so take all these things into consideration when planning road trips with EVs.
See, this is the issue I have with EVs: Let's say a typical trip to La Union takes 4.5 hours. In the event that you need to juice up during your trip, that adds another good 60 minutes to your trip to add a fraction of percentage (via fast charging), that is if you get a charging slot immediately. What if there are more people lined up before you? Versus typical few minutes using ICE / Hybrid. Then once you get to your accommodation, another challenge is finding a charging port in the parking slot in a hotel, resort, or airbnb. And if you do find one, it wont be fast charging. So you need the entire night to charge up the car, again, if you find a charging slot in the parking. And if you do, will they even allow you. Such a hassle. Still, I'm positive about EVs even though we know theyre not environmentally friendly.
Also, I would like to add that some EV Charging station/network like Shell Recharge (as of May 2024) forbids the use of adapters nor doesn’t offer other EV charging interfaces like NACS/Tesla, GB/T (where grey market EVs use), and J1772.
please when you do your next review, please list down the actual cost for each vehicle type. when vehicle gets back to home base just full tank or full charge all vehicles. Let's see which among the two (or three) is really more efficient.
You really didn’t test its range. At 47% charge left, you should’ve continued without recharging to find out how far the battery can take it. By my calculation, it consumes more in the highway and won’t be able to take you back and forth without recharging negating its 465km advertised range. Also, it showed that when traveling far, recharging costs more. Does fast charging cost ₱35 per kw in NCR?
I don't think testing the range was the point of the video. It was trying to demonstrate a real life scenario of traveling on a EV with that kind of range, charging included
This is ok if we have a lot of chargers. Your trip is only limited to areas where chargers are available. Of course once u reach your destination , you still need ur car to go around the area and there you will have range anxiety. Of course charging in fast chargers are more expensive than ice vehicle. If you want to save i would suggest buy a hybrid or plug in hybrid.
Exactly. And what happens when more people need to charge up. How much more time you’ll lose. Yeah we might have more chargers in the future. “In the future”. We are not there yet though. So no, not yet willing to waste money til the charging network is sufficient enough to take me to real remote areas, where accommodations dont have available charging stations. That and we know that BYD build is… plus its China so no 😅
The 2 pesos per kilometer price is based on charging stations at the mall. It should be calculated based on the location of the charger. Same as you calculated the gas based on the current price per location. 🙄
The actual range will vary more when you use safety features, the radio, the lights, the ac and of course if you have a lead foot. The charging speed also depends on how fast your "battery" can charge itself, in addition to the speed of the charger itself.
just got our solar panels installed and i'm really looking into getting the Atto 3 for our daily drive (getting the kids to and from school and bringing the wife to work and back). we spend roughly around 16k on diesel for this. i think i have enough capacity in our solar to practically get the charging close to free. i don't plan to bring it on long drives and that's what our ICE car is for. but thinking about this, it really does make sense to get an EV.
Great video as always. I am confused on the math. If the BYD system is saying you have 47% battery left, that would be 28.2 kwh in the battery out of 60 kwh. But you used 41kWh, which leaves 19kWh, or 32% of the capacity. It could be the computer is giving an estimate based on driving history and conditions, or it could be the 47% figure spoken of was earlier in the video and by the time you were at Shell, it was actually less. Can you update on what the BYD computer said was the battery percentage left? Also, did it match the distance driven and the 41kWh you used? My guess is that is why the other owner was interested in your range.
The difference in consumption between the silver atto3 and the test unit was due to driving style of the owner. Remember caco and team elft at 7am while the silver atto3 left at 9am. That's a two hour difference and they're at the shell recharging station at the same time. That means the owner of the silver one was heavy on the throttle.
My concern with EV and it is not being mentioned about the estimated range is in that estimate it's at what speed for you to meet or be close to the estimated range.
Dolphin can do this too. A bit similar in range with the gray Atto 3 that they saw in the charging station. Also I already saw a Dolphin back in Baguio.
Thanks for sharing your content and this should be an awesome way of using a full EV on a typical road trip. In my opinion did I sense some range anxiety when you couldn't top-up at Rosario? 😅 If you did, I did too. 😂 It would be awesome if you will also use telemetry data (top speed, average speed, distance, total elevation gain) for both the EV and your backup car. I also suggest if you guys can also do a full EV road trip to Baguio. This way, we can also see EVs performance when climbing 1500 meters above sea level. Another thing, is your office at Geely Makati? Thanks again.
Mga dating 300km range na EVs, a few short years after nasa 400 to 500km range na. Very sparse charging stations, now dumadami na. Hopefully magkaraoon naman ng improvements sa electricity grid. I saw Meralco is looking into micro-nuclear power plants was it? And there was some news as well on solar farms. Things are looking up for EVs.
The calculations maybe inaccurate due to the fact that if you use a slower charger it would also take longer time for it to charge. Which means the slower charger in which according to sir Caco around 12 pesos will charger the vehicle longer than the fast charger. So, on a fast charger that costs php 35 pesos would charge 1 kwh in 5 mins for example the slower charger would do it 25mins for example so the cost goes up as well. The cost per KWH is actually really per kwh added to the battery but esssentially the time it takes to fill that 1 kwh. So a good solution is to install solar panels for your chargers with batteries to store the energy it gathered. But ofcors this means you will have to spend more at first.
Turning off the infotainment system does not affect the car's power consumption. Similar to a car with a combustion engine, an EV also has a battery for electronics under the hood.
with EV's how much do you think it would cost say after 5 years if i would like to sell it and upgrade to a new one. Would it depreciate that much considering the age of batteries.
Im not sure if having an EV in the Philippines is a good idea. They always have black outs....and why would Pinoys buy Chinese made cars when they are harassing you guys and taking some of your resources?
Battery depletion will be fastest in the first 2 years. About 5 % for LFP batteries. After that, the battery will stsbilize. It is even recommended to top up LFP batteries once every 2 weeks and during long road trips to calibrate the battery.
So in order to drive down the cost you have to take a slower charger which in turn increases your time to wait. So what if, may nakapila before you or 1 of the charger isn't working? Edi mas mag-aantay ka ng matagal? The money you save on cost still sisingilin ka pa din in a form of time. No thanks.
You saved roughly P2.50/km but how long did you stay at that gas station to fully charge that car? Filling up an ICE vehicle will take you less than 10min. Savings on money or savings on time?
This is a great Vlog. I found it really interesting and gave me an idea. Since, in a way.. a 1.5L SUV is kinda compared with than EV SUV and the cost per kilometer is way apart.. (EV 1Km+2.00php ++, ICE 1Km= 5.00php), proved the cost savings of an EV is way better than an ICE. But how about an EV vs a hybrid (Toyota’s hybrid tech and Nissans e power). Would it be possible to have a cost per kilometer comparo for these. And during this comparo, allow the EV to mostly be charged at a charging station and not at a home so as we can know the max costing. This can greatly help people decide either an EV or hybrid and give a chance for people who live in condos to have a better perspective if they can shift to an EV because they can have a ball park figure of the cost in charging. What do say Caco and Autodeal peeps? Would it be possible? Just a thought 😂
Here's my take on your review. Everything is all ok except for the pricing of charging 13:36. Do you think a normal consumer eill use a slow charger when traveling long distance. Most of them will use fast charger I can guarantee that so no it's not cheaper if you use the byd in long drive. In city drive or short distance drive when the car is use for commute it could be cheaper because you can charge it at home without issue. But on long distance drive no way. No sane person will use a slow charger.
It depends on where and how you charge. The blade battery will not degrade suddenly as it only charges 80 kWh. Also, it is recommended for LFP batteries to charge 80-90% regularly and 100% every 2 weeks in order to calibrate the battery.
That's great, granted it doesn't spontaneously blow up under you. Isn't that what that brand is known for? How about degradation of the battery? How long until it degrades and loses charge capacity? Why does it regenerate when braking? What about using the turning wheels to bring back some juice while the car is going?
if the guy who owns the atto 3 has only 25 percent after arriving rosario ev charging station. would he still arrive if he only got the 400km variant of the atto 3? man, that's a real question right there.. I hope they install more EV chargers for the consumers. if you can go from the top to bottom of luzon then that would be the day when I'll consider buying one.
Question ❓ Is it stll excepted from coding? O and by the way how about the maintenance? Is it cheaper or expensive? Like if your batteries are really down how can you fix.Or have someone fix fix it for you Same price lang ba sila.Or mas expensive? Ang mag paayos ng regular engine.Neither gas or diesel engins Compared sa ev engine?
All full hybrids and BEVs are coding-exempted until 2030 in the PH. For maintenance, it is cheaper to maintain a BEV annually as you have fewer mechanical parts (no oil changes needed, etc.). However, when your BEV battery needs replacement, that will be costlier. For hybrids, it is more expensive in the long run as you technically need to maintain a gas engine and an electric motor with their batteries (well, depends on the brand and model). The environmental benefits of BEVs still cannot be ignored, especially if your city or town has clean energy sources.
@@StarsStripes-vh7kw So? If ever I have an ev car,.If ever I get caught by a police or a traffic enforcer I'm just going to say it's an,,..E then they will let me go? Am I right? Because that's what he did,.In their previous video So pretty sure,.If I also did that! That I'm going to use my ev on a coding day And if I say the words ev,.So pretty sure they'll also let me go With no questions asked too 😉
Was really wanting to ride into that EV cars trend but for an average employee who doesnt have enough free time to stay at a recharging station (for slow chargers) I dont think this would really be a good main car :(
Can you have a review for this car for maintenance expenses. Also, the cost of the new battery when you need to change and how long the battery life and what is the effect on the battery if the car not usually used.
Does BYD stand for Burn your Drive or Burn your Dream? A lot of electric Vehicles are seen catching fire in China in YT videos for no apparent reason. Even those which are just being transported in long trailers on the way to dealerships are catching fire. I guess if you buy an EV you would have something like "being burned alive anxiety".
It depends upon the battery chemistry, form factor, and BMS. But if Tesla enters the Philippines, whether or not the battery is LFP or NCM, it is safe. And has several advantages over any other brand.
The video‘s from China actually include fires of BYD cars. But on a channel financed by sponsorships and created as „infotainment“ there will never be a serious discussion about the risks and drawbacks.
Unless the battery module is faulty, typically newer models of EVs have batteries with long battery life. BYD guarantees 8 years for their batteries or 125000 miles. That said, if for some reason someone wants to replace the battery beyond that warranty, it would cost 60k US dollars and at that point,, you should just get another car lol
Its the scenario going back that is really the risk highlight. With the power grid at yellow-red alert this past month it’s kind of socially irresponsible to transition to more EVs. If you really want to go to EVs, in my opinion, you have to setup a good sized solar power system (with battery storage) on your house 1st before thinking about EVs. That would really change the costs comparison considerations with EVs.
@@benzengap6804 yep, you actually nailed the problem with all the “ifs” consideration with an EV. If you can do A, if you can do B, If you can x so on and so forth then an EV is a good choice. Its not ready for the mainstream with all the ifs where a standard ICE or hybrid, the only ‘if’ you have to consider is ‘if’ you can afford the purchase and cost of ownership. That said, I would still like to have an EV when I can afford and get around to satisfying the extra ‘ifs’ to consider.
This is more entertaining than the standard review format. More road trip episodes to test the range of EVs.
I can see the internal email now. "If this video does well, let's have Caco do a test drive wearing nothing but a towel and a shower cap - clearly nothing can go wrong"
That is really a must see someday,.Since he is also a bag of jokes most of the time 😂😂😂😂😂
😂🤣😂🤣😂
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Caco is setting the trend on how to review any car...under any circumstances he he. You're the best!
he's always the benchmark on local reviews, I had never ever seen any local reviews (no offense) that's as informative and very entertaining as AutoDeal with Caco on the on the helm.. its always a treat when he presents..
Just Caco setting up the standards of how a car reviewer should be
Love your work bro
Looks like the grey Atto3 is the lower-range Dynamic model with a 50kWh battery, while your test unit is the Premium variant with 60kWh. That could explain a large part of the disparity in the remaining battery % at your pit stop.
Thank you, as professional reviews, where people gain knowledge from, this detail should not have been missed.
Correct. The rims are a good tell between Premium and Dynamic.
@@angeloco4923sun roof is the biggest tell
Atleast they are transparent on sharing that info to us
EV chargers are somehow increasing throughout the country. If chargers were available down south, EVs buyers will definitely increase. Most of the EVs are tested only up north, in exception to Nissan Kicks that they drove from Manila to Misibis. Hope to see more EVs being driven to Quezon and Bicol, where roads are more challenging.
Meron sa SM Sto. Tomas, Lucena, Naga, Ayala Legazpi. Also, madami ng e-bikes, etc. kung saan saan. So marami na din nagsulputang EV charging stations na maliliit. Plus, you can use supplied charger to charge in any outlet, matagal nga lang. Good sya if you stay in a hotel.
@@DenDen-ph Napa-search ako bigla about SM chargers. Yeah good thing SMs now have the setup. It is still kind of limited though and hassle na din diba kase if you are an EV owner, mas mainam kung may mga chargers na sa mga gas stations. One more thing, most of the travelers down south prefer to travel night time. If the only options are SM chargers, hindi na sila available after the mall hours. But for sure eventually magkakaroon yan. I just hope that won't take more years before it it could have. Sa bansa kase where I am now kahit maliliit na gasoline stations and R&Rs may mga EV chargers na. Very convenient talaga and you won't have the stress finding the plugs if you ran out of juice.
@@jesicolarina0402 I get your point but it all depends on the range ng EV. With BYD Atto 3, it has 400+Km range. So in between, pwede naman. Plus, you will actually go to these places to eat as rest stop, at mas conducive pa ang environment.
I spend roughly p16k/ month on diesel. If i install at least a 7 kva solar system(without batteries ) at home, it would cost only p200-250k. Suppose I buy an EV, i would not spend a penny on fuelling the car. The ROI for the solar installation is less than 2 years. The price of an Atto is comparable to an ICE CUV. The blade battery of BYD is safe and lasts 8 tp 15 years (6,000 cycles)... Buying EV is a no brainer.
16k a month?! 🤯 how far do you travel a day?
Caco: Mentions Baguio
Earl and Jack: *Vietnam Flashback*.
we need Baguio Balikan again
don't give caco any ideas please 🥲
No.
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What isn't shown after that 'leap' on the beach is how I badly strained my left butt cheek and was limping for about 5 minutes. Apparently, age isn't just a number.
Haha was thinking about that. Great content again, thanks for these videos.
hip replacement review, when?
hello sir caco! I love it when you're going childish on your videos
You make me laugh so hard 🤣😅🤣😅
where's Jack?
sir caco. this is just internet gold 😄
Caco forgot to mention that although makakatipid ka sa mas mabagal na charger, mas matatagalan ka naman magcharge. Yung fast charger nga 50mins na kung tama pagkaalala ko, edi lalo yung lower powered chargers. Importante ito kung nasa road trip ka
The power of ev is you charge at home. Overnight.
@@natzcam2219 the charging time is the issue. it takes so much of your road trip time....at selected pa ang pit stops mo...nagising kang maaga para mas maaga kang maka byahe at makapamasyal, tapos matatanghalian ka kasi kailangan mong mag charge along the way... or kung nasa destination na kayo, hindi kayo makapag dire-diretsong pasyal kasi kelangan mo i-charge nanaman...not convenient at all.. lagi mo iniintindi... paano pag pila pa sa charging stations....paano pag yung tinulugan mo day before ng long road trip mo nawalan ng power overnight. so many things to mind, para maging primary car mo
Superchargers degrade the battery much faster. It is better to charge at home..install about 7kva of solar panels, charge using 6.2 KVA chargers, although it may take 10 hours, but charging will be free.
@@christopherpastelero9147 ilang times ka ba pumapasyal ng ganun ka layo sa isang taon? It's like saying I won't buy a sedan because I can't take if off-road when in reality I've only been offroading once a year at most. Same logic, would you prefer a much more expensive fuel car always because of a once a vacation thing? Or rather save on gas because 99% of your time is on the metro anyway? Like saving by buying a cheap sedan vs buying a 4x4 offroader for that once a year thing? Get my point?
@@christopherpastelero9147 and it's not like a sedan either which can NEVER go off road, by comparison and this video as proof an ev can actually be used for a car trip vacation. You just need to plan better ika nga by caco. What's with people like you having difficulty planning a trip anyways? It's part of the fun for me and quite rewarding at the end.
Caco is weirdly good every review!😂 great job once again. BTW, Love this car! Owned it for a couple of months without any hiccups🎉
The reactions of Earl is priceless 😂 love the videos of AutoDealPH 🥳🎉
I’m sooo happy EVs are showing up there sa Pinas! Been driving an EV for over 10 years now.
I think you should’ve charged upto 80% only to take good advantage of a fast charger, and it will be cheaper and economical, it will charge slower if upto 100%.What I observed in the video, is how often you have to charge, and that means more travel cost.
Practical only for city driving where you can go the enitre day without needing to charge and go charge at home overnight. Infra for evs still needs to be developed and chargers must be improved exponentially. 50mins is really bad. But as I said inside the city I think they'd do quite well.
Nice one Caco and production Crew! 👏🏼👏🏼 Exactly the kind of stuff that people needs to see in a review, very entertaining indeed! 👍🏼
I like the creatives in this episode. Makes me wanna go to the showroom tomorrow. Kudos!
Nice to know that Philippines is starting to adopt electric cars, with the price of petrol this days that's good news. I experience long trip with our Tesla Model 3 from Ontario to Quebec last week here in Canada. We had to stop 3 times to top-up, good enough to have a bathroom, get some food and walk our pug. No range anxiety since the charging network is efficient.
Anong app yung nabanggit na one can find the nearest EV charging stations?
14:25 still not practical because you have to charge the battery for 50+ minutes versus 3-5min gas fill up. It cost me time. And thats where the impracticality occurs.
Same here. They just wasted 50 plus minutes only for charging and its expensive to charge 35 per kwh and his telling us that if you charge it in the house its 2 pesos per kwh. Like what kind of explanation is that? For sure they’re paid to promote this video.
@quatro2732 He said P2 per KM. If meralco costs P14 per kwh, and the car can do 7km per kwh so 2 pesos per km
@@natzcam2219 nonetheless, the problem still occurs. Wasted time. Which majority ng mga tao ayaw sa ganun. Imbes nasa dagat ka na or nakapag checkin na kayo, since nagchacharge ka pa ng EV for 50 mins, lost time mo na yun.
@@infelnetus Ill have to agree with that, but if you have a charger at home and you charge overnight, and your not planning on a 1000km trip then an EV is a win
Yes. Actually if its a drive within the metro its definitely not a problem.
Idk, if theres 2 cars ahead of you waiting to charge their evs then thats potentially a 3 hour wait.
This was a fun little experiment. Although EVs can be cheaper than ICE vehicles when it comes to consumption costs, there is the often-overlooked factor of time. Sure, you can get marginally cheaper rates charging compared to fueling up, but the time it takes to top up a fuel tank is significantly faster than that of an EV battery. And to Caco's point, although you can charge at much slower rates to drive down the costs, know that this will result in even longer charging times so take all these things into consideration when planning road trips with EVs.
How much cost to charge fully from a charging station? At home on slow charging mode from almost empty to full? More or less how will cost me?
Since you were comparing price per km, may I suggest that you include a hybrid to the comparison to see the differences.
Not much point i mean sa mild hybrid you only get 3km more or less
See, this is the issue I have with EVs: Let's say a typical trip to La Union takes 4.5 hours. In the event that you need to juice up during your trip, that adds another good 60 minutes to your trip to add a fraction of percentage (via fast charging), that is if you get a charging slot immediately. What if there are more people lined up before you? Versus typical few minutes using ICE / Hybrid. Then once you get to your accommodation, another challenge is finding a charging port in the parking slot in a hotel, resort, or airbnb. And if you do find one, it wont be fast charging. So you need the entire night to charge up the car, again, if you find a charging slot in the parking. And if you do, will they even allow you. Such a hassle.
Still, I'm positive about EVs even though we know theyre not environmentally friendly.
Also, I would like to add that some EV Charging station/network like Shell Recharge (as of May 2024) forbids the use of adapters nor doesn’t offer other EV charging interfaces like NACS/Tesla, GB/T (where grey market EVs use), and J1772.
Awesome review. This will definitely shape decisions.
Sayang talaga yung Kicks, mas okey kung meron charging option din.
2x battery and may plug in? = Ndi na gagana ang makina ni kicks and completo na c kicks
hindi practical na lagyan ng charging option since maliit lang ng battery nya. Madadagdagan lang price nya for little to no benefit at all
please when you do your next review, please list down the actual cost for each vehicle type. when vehicle gets back to home base just full tank or full charge all vehicles. Let's see which among the two (or three) is really more efficient.
You really didn’t test its range. At 47% charge left, you should’ve continued without recharging to find out how far the battery can take it. By my calculation, it consumes more in the highway and won’t be able to take you back and forth without recharging negating its 465km advertised range.
Also, it showed that when traveling far, recharging costs more. Does fast charging cost ₱35 per kw in NCR?
I don't think testing the range was the point of the video. It was trying to demonstrate a real life scenario of traveling on a EV with that kind of range, charging included
This is ok if we have a lot of chargers. Your trip is only limited to areas where chargers are available. Of course once u reach your destination , you still need ur car to go around the area and there you will have range anxiety.
Of course charging in fast chargers are more expensive than ice vehicle. If you want to save i would suggest buy a hybrid or plug in hybrid.
Exactly. And what happens when more people need to charge up. How much more time you’ll lose.
Yeah we might have more chargers in the future. “In the future”. We are not there yet though. So no, not yet willing to waste money til the charging network is sufficient enough to take me to real remote areas, where accommodations dont have available charging stations.
That and we know that BYD build is… plus its China so no 😅
Most of the Vehicle and taxi's here in ireland are Hybrid and Ev. Sana sa pinas din pumasok na mga hybrid at ev's.
Dami na hybrid dito hehe
Yes! do a comparo with ICE HEV and EV.
Caco never fails to put a smile on my face lol
The 2 pesos per kilometer price is based on charging stations at the mall. It should be calculated based on the location of the charger. Same as you calculated the gas based on the current price per location. 🙄
AGREE!!!
If you're going to base the price on the current charging cost at the malls then it will cost 0 to run the ev 😉
The actual range will vary more when you use safety features, the radio, the lights, the ac and of course if you have a lead foot. The charging speed also depends on how fast your "battery" can charge itself, in addition to the speed of the charger itself.
This is very much entertaining and at the same time very informative. Keep it up AD team!
just got our solar panels installed and i'm really looking into getting the Atto 3 for our daily drive (getting the kids to and from school and bringing the wife to work and back). we spend roughly around 16k on diesel for this. i think i have enough capacity in our solar to practically get the charging close to free. i don't plan to bring it on long drives and that's what our ICE car is for. but thinking about this, it really does make sense to get an EV.
I just wanted to know if can go to and from La Union. there’s so many antics.
Look forward to your comparison review between Hybrid-ICE-EV
Great video as always. I am confused on the math. If the BYD system is saying you have 47% battery left, that would be 28.2 kwh in the battery out of 60 kwh. But you used 41kWh, which leaves 19kWh, or 32% of the capacity. It could be the computer is giving an estimate based on driving history and conditions, or it could be the 47% figure spoken of was earlier in the video and by the time you were at Shell, it was actually less. Can you update on what the BYD computer said was the battery percentage left? Also, did it match the distance driven and the 41kWh you used? My guess is that is why the other owner was interested in your range.
The difference in consumption between the silver atto3 and the test unit was due to driving style of the owner. Remember caco and team elft at 7am while the silver atto3 left at 9am. That's a two hour difference and they're at the shell recharging station at the same time. That means the owner of the silver one was heavy on the throttle.
My concern with EV and it is not being mentioned about the estimated range is in that estimate it's at what speed for you to meet or be close to the estimated range.
This will be my 2nd car 🙏👌
Sabi na eh. Hahahahha! 😂
This is awesome! Can you replicate this with a city car e.g. Wuling Bingo or BYD dolphin?
Dolphin can do this too. A bit similar in range with the gray Atto 3 that they saw in the charging station.
Also I already saw a Dolphin back in Baguio.
Dolphin gonna get further since it's using same battery and lighter body
This was so entertaining and informative!
Thanks for sharing your content and this should be an awesome way of using a full EV on a typical road trip.
In my opinion did I sense some range anxiety when you couldn't top-up at Rosario? 😅 If you did, I did too. 😂
It would be awesome if you will also use telemetry data (top speed, average speed, distance, total elevation gain) for both the EV and your backup car.
I also suggest if you guys can also do a full EV road trip to Baguio. This way, we can also see EVs performance when climbing 1500 meters above sea level.
Another thing, is your office at Geely Makati?
Thanks again.
Mga dating 300km range na EVs, a few short years after nasa 400 to 500km range na.
Very sparse charging stations, now dumadami na.
Hopefully magkaraoon naman ng improvements sa electricity grid. I saw Meralco is looking into micro-nuclear power plants was it? And there was some news as well on solar farms.
Things are looking up for EVs.
I'm wondering how much battery replacement cost and how long the battery last before it should be replace?
At least 10yrs before it deteriorates but still usable
Hi can you do a comparison between Atto3 vs SeaLion 6? Since you mentioned that it costs P2.21 per KM if we charge the Atto3 at home. Thanks!
The best review by far. 🎉
Earl hahaha 😅😊
NXT time ikaw naman ang mag Drive😎🤍
Is that a free charging @ awesome hotel??
Like all you posted, only thing holding me back from an ev is the lack of stations in Ilocos norte
The calculations maybe inaccurate due to the fact that if you use a slower charger it would also take longer time for it to charge. Which means the slower charger in which according to sir Caco around 12 pesos will charger the vehicle longer than the fast charger.
So, on a fast charger that costs php 35 pesos would charge 1 kwh in 5 mins for example the slower charger would do it 25mins for example so the cost goes up as well.
The cost per KWH is actually really per kwh added to the battery but esssentially the time it takes to fill that 1 kwh.
So a good solution is to install solar panels for your chargers with batteries to store the energy it gathered. But ofcors this means you will have to spend more at first.
Turning off the infotainment system does not affect the car's power consumption. Similar to a car with a combustion engine, an EV also has a battery for electronics under the hood.
with EV's how much do you think it would cost say after 5 years if i would like to sell it and upgrade to a new one. Would it depreciate that much considering the age of batteries.
Looking forward seeing this car to travel from manila to baguio and vice versa
That 'other' byd user definite was in a spirited driving or simply a heavy metal on the accelerator (potentiometer?).
hi what Hotel in La Union did you guys stay...
Sir Coco can you make also a proper review of BYD sea lion 6. Thanks
Cool video as usual, autodeal 😂
Im not sure if having an EV in the Philippines is a good idea. They always have black outs....and why would Pinoys buy Chinese made cars when they are harassing you guys and taking some of your resources?
Hi, how much does Awesome hotel charge for the charging of the vehicle?😊
Everyone should know that the car is Brand New. I wonder if after a year, DAILY driven, will it still perform the same?
Battery depletion will be fastest in the first 2 years. About 5 % for LFP batteries. After that, the battery will stsbilize. It is even recommended to top up LFP batteries once every 2 weeks and during long road trips to calibrate the battery.
So in order to drive down the cost you have to take a slower charger which in turn increases your time to wait. So what if, may nakapila before you or 1 of the charger isn't working? Edi mas mag-aantay ka ng matagal?
The money you save on cost still sisingilin ka pa din in a form of time. No thanks.
As of now, EVS are best for city driving. But there will be a time that superchargers will be a dime in a dozen.
Was the charging at Awesome hotel free?
You saved roughly P2.50/km but how long did you stay at that gas station to fully charge that car? Filling up an ICE vehicle will take you less than 10min. Savings on money or savings on time?
you can buy a home charger and there portable ones as well.
This is a great Vlog. I found it really interesting and gave me an idea. Since, in a way.. a 1.5L SUV is kinda compared with than EV SUV and the cost per kilometer is way apart.. (EV 1Km+2.00php ++, ICE 1Km= 5.00php), proved the cost savings of an EV is way better than an ICE. But how about an EV vs a hybrid (Toyota’s hybrid tech and Nissans e power). Would it be possible to have a cost per kilometer comparo for these. And during this comparo, allow the EV to mostly be charged at a charging station and not at a home so as we can know the max costing. This can greatly help people decide either an EV or hybrid and give a chance for people who live in condos to have a better perspective if they can shift to an EV because they can have a ball park figure of the cost in charging. What do say Caco and Autodeal peeps? Would it be possible? Just a thought 😂
Does our country have the capacity or ability to recycle junked ev's?
Wala pa po
What's your brand of shade Sir Caco?
What a test, so nice and practically is so true
Here's my take on your review. Everything is all ok except for the pricing of charging 13:36. Do you think a normal consumer eill use a slow charger when traveling long distance. Most of them will use fast charger I can guarantee that so no it's not cheaper if you use the byd in long drive. In city drive or short distance drive when the car is use for commute it could be cheaper because you can charge it at home without issue. But on long distance drive no way. No sane person will use a slow charger.
I wonder how the batteries hold after 5 yrs. Will they degrade fast just like phones? How much it cost to replace the batteries after it depleted.
It depends on where and how you charge. The blade battery will not degrade suddenly as it only charges 80 kWh. Also, it is recommended for LFP batteries to charge 80-90% regularly and 100% every 2 weeks in order to calibrate the battery.
HHAHAAHAH ang cute ng review. (Tsaka si Earl)
@cacotirona do a trip to Sorsogon or Legazpi City Albay instead.
About half the price/km at 4x the time spent at the station. I'll stick to ICE for out of town trips and EV inside the city.
dat dog with kilay tho 17:02 🔥
The dog with killer kilays....
Caco, can you try a roadtrip going to the new highest highway system using EV?
20:48 nice
nice
nice
That's great, granted it doesn't spontaneously blow up under you. Isn't that what that brand is known for? How about degradation of the battery? How long until it degrades and loses charge capacity? Why does it regenerate when braking? What about using the turning wheels to bring back some juice while the car is going?
awesome video as always
love this better than, watching western review.. may kasama pang comedy
Great video! wishing to have an EV car soon.
if the guy who owns the atto 3 has only 25 percent after arriving rosario ev charging station. would he still arrive if he only got the 400km variant of the atto 3? man, that's a real question right there.. I hope they install more EV chargers for the consumers. if you can go from the top to bottom of luzon then that would be the day when I'll consider buying one.
It's 278 km from Makati to La Union.
What happened?
I miss this kind of content 🤣
Love this video! Next time, for the comparo. try diesel, gas, hybrid, and ev try the route to Bicol. Maybe do something like a race.
Question ❓
Is it stll excepted from coding? O and by the way how about the maintenance?
Is it cheaper or expensive? Like if your batteries are really down how can you fix.Or have someone fix fix it for you
Same price lang ba sila.Or mas expensive?
Ang mag paayos ng regular engine.Neither gas or diesel engins
Compared sa ev engine?
All full hybrids and BEVs are coding-exempted until 2030 in the PH. For maintenance, it is cheaper to maintain a BEV annually as you have fewer mechanical parts (no oil changes needed, etc.). However, when your BEV battery needs replacement, that will be costlier. For hybrids, it is more expensive in the long run as you technically need to maintain a gas engine and an electric motor with their batteries (well, depends on the brand and model). The environmental benefits of BEVs still cannot be ignored, especially if your city or town has clean energy sources.
@@StarsStripes-vh7kw So? If ever I have an ev car,.If ever I get caught by a police or a traffic enforcer I'm just going to say it's an,,..E then they will let me go? Am I right?
Because that's what he did,.In their previous video
So pretty sure,.If I also did that! That I'm going to use my ev on a coding day
And if I say the words ev,.So pretty sure they'll also let me go
With no questions asked too 😉
@@StarsStripes-vh7kw Plus the fact,.That I'm also promoting to have a clean air that we can all enjoy
Was really wanting to ride into that EV cars trend but for an average employee who doesnt have enough free time to stay at a recharging station (for slow chargers) I dont think this would really be a good main car :(
Can you have a review for this car for maintenance expenses. Also, the cost of the new battery when you need to change and how long the battery life and what is the effect on the battery if the car not usually used.
What i dont like about current ev situation is what if you arrive at charging station and someone is currently charging. I hate the waiting game.
When is the Seagull coming? If they price it below 1M it will be the best seller
Looking forward to Pagudpud trip with an EV 👌
Gudlak!
That brownout at Rosario Shell station gave me one hell of anxiety for you guys. LOL
Akala ko solar powered ung station nila?
pag inabutan ng brownout, stranded na sa north
@@conyingBaon ka na lang portable gas generator as a backup 😂
ang kulit kulit mo talaga sir mag review/vlog. hahaha
Does BYD stand for Burn your Drive or Burn your Dream? A lot of electric Vehicles are seen catching fire in China in YT videos for no apparent reason. Even those which are just being transported in long trailers on the way to dealerships are catching fire. I guess if you buy an EV you would have something like "being burned alive anxiety".
It depends upon the battery chemistry, form factor, and BMS. But if Tesla enters the Philippines, whether or not the battery is LFP or NCM, it is safe. And has several advantages over any other brand.
The video‘s from China actually include fires of BYD cars. But on a channel financed by sponsorships and created as „infotainment“ there will never be a serious discussion about the risks and drawbacks.
Hope mindanao will adopt also.
The question is how much the battery replacement for that electric vehicle?
Unless the battery module is faulty, typically newer models of EVs have batteries with long battery life. BYD guarantees 8 years for their batteries or 125000 miles. That said, if for some reason someone wants to replace the battery beyond that warranty, it would cost 60k US dollars and at that point,, you should just get another car lol
shet pang aircon ang humor. ahahhhhahahha. entertaining!
What was your maximum speed?
Its the scenario going back that is really the risk highlight. With the power grid at yellow-red alert this past month it’s kind of socially irresponsible to transition to more EVs. If you really want to go to EVs, in my opinion, you have to setup a good sized solar power system (with battery storage) on your house 1st before thinking about EVs. That would really change the costs comparison considerations with EVs.
Batteries for solar are not compulsory if you have the time to charge during day time at home.
@@benzengap6804 yep, you actually nailed the problem with all the “ifs” consideration with an EV. If you can do A, if you can do B, If you can x so on and so forth then an EV is a good choice. Its not ready for the mainstream with all the ifs where a standard ICE or hybrid, the only ‘if’ you have to consider is ‘if’ you can afford the purchase and cost of ownership.
That said, I would still like to have an EV when I can afford and get around to satisfying the extra ‘ifs’ to consider.
HAHA!! katuwa ka nman idol nice..kip it that way injoyable..😂