One cool detail I found was that, the common infected can sense whether someone is infected or not. That’s why they only punch, kick or claw the main characters and not bite them.
I know this post is now 4 months old, but I wanted to add something. Viruses that get most animals to become aggressive and bite to spread themselves like Rabies stimulate the aggression centers in the brain. When you do that on a human, the natural response is to strike with fists or feet. If you want a human to start biting, you have to confuse the brain and make other humans seem like food. This is extremely sketchy biology but I think it explains why Green Flu infected attack the way they do.
also, very importantly, bill and zoey switch roles. bill realizes that living isnt any good if youre doing it at the cost of hose you care about, and fights back, dying as zoey said she would for and with other carriers. zoey realizes that dying in a last stand isnt worth anything if you refuse to be or dont have someone to lead and care for those you fight alongside with. bill learns to die, and equally tragically, zoey learns to live.
Another interesting fact in the Sacrifice campaign you’ll sometimes hear Zoey saying this “Great! Maybe we can find some new survivors and leave them behind” and Bill saying “Zoey I’m not planning you behind”
funfact: Jim French(Bill voice actor) is also played the voice of Father Grigori from Half Life 2, both of the characters also sacrificing themself for their groups from zombie swarm. Rip Jim French🕊🕊
As much as I would agree with father grigori His fate is still unknown I know there was supposed to be the episode Return to ravenholm But as we know that got canned So we literally do not know what the hell happened after gordon left
Still bothers me that zoey didn't told the 2nd survivors about the military killing carriers, there's dialouge at the end of the passing with louis asking zoey, "should we tell them?" and then zoey answering with something like "they'll figure it out."
Seems like they meant the 3rd game to start at the military base and it would probably be overrun by infected kicking off left 4 dead 3. In the passing the military was already killing carrier civilians who haven''t turned so after they get in that chopper they are definitely off to a military zone of some sort just like the og survivors.
I think it because zoey take Bill word to take care of themself and keep the supply on board for themself because she dunno wat will happen in the future. And For why not telling the 2nd survivor (and for why even louis doesn't tell the 2nd survivor too iz a major thingand he doesnt need to ask Zoey about that) about carrier thing there only few case I guess 1. They wont believe her and keep going like the two soldier jeb ( which I think it very low chance ) 2. Think there maybe a chance for the 2nd survivor found some group that welcome them because it their only goal to survival since they have ammo limited and they will die when it run out so she dun want to make their hope go down
@@tunamesut in the leaked data of 3rd game, the military are using the carriers as soldiers against the infected. that's why the military was willing to evacuate the l4d2 group in the parish since they think of them as potential soldiers.
I think it's more of the continuity issues of where The Passing and The Sacrifice are in the narrative. To put it simply: Zoey didn't bother telling them about the military for 2 reasons, 1 is that technically, the survivors have a mutuality with each other rather than a close-knit group. Hell, the two groups only got some bonding at the final part, and second is that my headcanon is Zoey putting Bill's words into heart: "We look after our own." That alone paves the way for the l4d2 crew to advance at Dark Carnival up to The Parish.
Man, I miss VALVE itself. Sure we got Steam which is great and all, but Valve used to bring out banger after banger... Then Dota 2 and The International happened...
@@ImNotConz Pretty sure he is pointing it at Everly (Since he says "You are relieved of command", and Everly is in charge of Millhaven), but he likely just disarmed him and left him to fend by himself while he and his men evacuate, rather than killing Everly for no reason. There's not really any need to kill him after starting the mutiny, since Everly just needs to be powerless. Could've also been a way of letting Everly face the infected who's existence he denied earlier.
That is correct. Major Everly tried to escape via helicopter, and failed. The tank threw one of the vehicles at the helicopter, crashing the helicopter and killing him on it. I was tempted to comment about the same thing, but you beat me to it! 💯
The first time I played this map after a few years I got to the end and I was being swarmed from all sides. My gun ran dry and I shoved and moved inside, in my panic I was whipping my mouse around and when I saw a blue outline I grabbed it and began firing the M16 untill the infected stopped and the bridge began to lower. When I could breathe I turned around and found it was Bill's corpse I had got the rifle from. I cannot explain the feeling.
Kinda makes it even more tragic how Zoey says she's ready to die fighting and Bill wants to just live a peaceful life far away from all this, and it ends up completely opposite way for them
Bill's sacrifice likely made her understand his perspective, which could be what changed her mind. (Especially since she steps up as the new leader of the group) Even if that isn't the case, she knows fully well that Bill died so they could get that sailboat past the bridge, and going along with the 2nd group of survivors would mean abandoning that goal, which would mean that Bill died for nothing.
@@JAiZRUclips while I agree that Zoey decided that she shouldn't let Bill die for nothing (since he specifically wanted her out of all of them to be safe), it shouldn't make this decision for her. It's her own choice what to do with her life, as it is for Bill. If Zoey would still feel the urge to help others she shouldn't hold back just because Bill sacrificed his life.
@@p1tz0n16 don’t think the LF2 knew what carriers were. And I’m pretty sure the LF1 didn’t know that they were. Plus I think they just wanted to be on their own anyways
Seeing Francis getting emotional and demanding to go back for Bill fully convinced he made it, is absolutely heartbreaking. Despite all the insults and crude comebacks, Francis must have really admired Bill.
Not all. Artifact and Counter Strike 2 for example. Still a relatively amazing company and one of the modern gaming pillars that prevents another Capitalism crash like Atari did.
Unrelated to the video, but the Sacrifice's Port would have made a great map for DBD (if the Left 4 Dead collab was more than just Bill as a survivor), especially with the theme of generators being a key objective there. The Tank could have even been a killer.
For me, Bill's island is just a short lived paradise. Knowing how the mutations work where body builders become hulking beasts, gastric ulcer patients become monsters that spit acid, obese people becoming large ticking time bombs, I bet there will be Micheal Phelps like zombies that can breath underwater in just a few months.
Its kinda ironic that team from L4D2 pursuit their goal towards Parish. And respecting L4D1 crew for making out off this hell. But because L4D2 crew doesn't even know about carriers, they don't have knowledge about this all. They doesn't even know about escape plan for L4D1 team. And knowing that valve never explained even in comic where L4D2 crew dissapier in heli after bridge. I assume i will stick to the version that L4D2 team repeated same consequences as Military from L4D1 comic. And probably will find island as a solution too, so they will find another boat))
I think that the conversation never occur to them or that the L4D1 crew assume the carrier thing is widespread knowledge. Overall, I don't think I can press too hard on them. I find myself in many situations that people forgot to warn or advise me about something because... I didn't ask them or that they assumed I've already known.
you know what's really sad is that if they had waited & just climb higher & went to the other side of the bridge where they met the l4d2 survivors bill might've been alive
The problem is it would've been too much of a risk... There was too much zombies and too much special infected and the lift was slow as hell (when you played the Passing it was literally slow as hell)
The ending is perfect: When Zoey sees that Bill sacrifices himself for them, she realizes how far they’ve come just to try save someone and thats why she stops Francis from looking out for Bill So Bill and Zoey switched mentalities at that moment, while Zoey learned to care for themselves, Bill fought one last time so they could love.
Something I liked and when you were talking over the description of the comic was the moment when Zoe would say how many more of us would you leave behind and the answer is he doesn't He's the one that gets left behind to save them
1:22 Alright I could be overthinking, but I like the detail of Louis knowing what an APC stands for, given that he couldve likely been into tactical stuff with his liking of video games and using the shooting range as a pass time during lunch before the apocalypse.
Man... revisiting this timeless master piece and walking back through memory lane with comics... A very powerful storytelling thats unmatched by any modern day post apocalyptic game story. A bittersweet ending. Bill treated Zoey like his daughter even though Zoey wanted a different reality it was only until bill gave his life for her and the rest did she realize what he meant "we look after our own". Prior she was infuriated with his lack of words and silence, taunting him calling him a coward who ran away from battles. Never understanding that bill himself have lived through countless battlefields to know better. Even a ruffian like franics, the office clerk louis understood and never questioned bill. Rip Bill/Jim French...
man, all they need is the boomer bile. Bill wouldnt have to sacrifice himself. One, just one boomee bile and he could absolutely made it back to the bridge and stay alive with the gang.
Maybe! If I recall correctly, the L4D1 survivors never found any bile during their games, right? Wasn’t it introduced in L4D2? I don’t know enough about Left 4 Dead to explain why one group of survivors has access to bile and the other doesn’t, but assuming I’m not spreading total misinformation over the internet, then there has to be *some* lore to back me up, right?
You could argue it out with the lore and whatsnot, but... it's just a new thing added in L4D2. L4D group have never seen any vials because they weren't adeed at that point
I think boomer biles is something unique to where l4d2 survivors from, the CEDA employee tries to take them as samples but the hazmat suit didn't work as well as they thought. So I assumed CEDA didn't exist on place that l4d1 survivors passed through.
These replies are wrong. As we see in the Sacrifice teaser, Jockeys and Spitters as well as melees are shown. This means the L4D2 version of the Sacrifice is canon, and that the Sacrifice takes place later in the outbreak, likely just before if not simultaneously as Dead Center. Therefore they could definitely find bile jars around. I also don't think Bill could get back up, since even if he avoids the tanks, the bridge would start raising before he gets back.
You just earned a subscriber bro. I just finished your Spec Ops: The Line and your latest video. It should have been a crime to have such an underappreciated creator in your platform.
I always wondered why this area attracted so many tanks, where there's always a guarantied one stuck inside the train, and the finale really floods them in, with 2 regular ones during the generator bit, and then 3 rushing you in the final part. Though it's weird in the Passing Campaign it's less dreadful on the other side of the river
The tank in the train car is probably the answer. Someone, somehow, was rounding up Tanks and sending them there via train, then all the Tanks escaped when whatever they were planning inevitably went to hell. As for why they aren't on the other side of the river in such large numbers, they probably couldn't cross the river. The bridge in the campaign is presumably the only bridge left standing in the city, seeing as the L4D2 survivors needed to cross it specifically in the Passing and the only other way across that they could find was an underground tunnel
One flaw about the sacrifice campaign is that the generator you need to restart is too close to the bridge. 😂 It should at least be the generator outside the storage building.. I think maybe that was where the generator mightve originally been because the turret can cover the line of sight into that building if it weren't for the box lorry.
Its possible that it could have been a farther generator but changed it during playtesting. Just one or two special infected would be enough to ruin a player's sacrifice
I remember I got devasted when this campaign and comic came out, I used to play as bill all the time and at the time I was wondering "why tf didn't they kill louis?!" lol
Thanks for linking the comic - I remember being able to download it at the time but lost the files & the link over the years of swapping PCs, thought I'd never see it again. Loving the story sum-up series
You wanna know what’s interesting the helicopter pilot being infected in No Mercy is not the survivors fault because I just played the No Mercy rooftop finale and in the radio the pilot says “Running late… had a bit of an incident” which is very similar line to the The Walking Dead Clementine’s mother says in her voicemail meaning the helicopter pilot got bit before picking up the survivors. Also another thing to add, hehe well Bill was freaking persistent in finding a sailboat even though Francis suggested that they can just take any motor boat to find a worthy candidate in fact the whole sacrifice thing could’ve totally been avoided if the crew turned around and did Francis’ suggestion
Theres actually a mod for sacrifice where theres a lot more talk and new endings My favorite is alt ending is where you get a boat mid way in campaing (the place where you open a train that has a tank in it) idk why that happens maybe bill agrees with francis to look a boat with another boat Second fav alt ending is kill them all when bill doesnt jumps down where you stand in bridge and kill the tanks eventually generator starts to work itself
I had a hunch it was Philadelphia where the survivors started off at in Left 4 Dead! Just needed the comic to confirm it! I love this game so much, this game would’ve been great as a tv show!
One thing I never really understood was that why was the Doctor so late to going to the train? He was a carrier and he always intended to escape the base with his fellow carriers. So why did it end up that it looked like he stayed behind with the soldiers before changing his mind again and trying to chase after the train.
I came to the realization recently that the l4d2 crews only chance to survive was to stick with the l4d1 survivors, they were carriers and their only chance at any kind of escape.
Saddest part is, if any of them knew about sailboats, they'd know you can pretty easily lower the mast when need be. If the boat was still too tall? Remove any hardware you can that's sticking up and start filling it with weights until it's low enough to pass under. The story demanded a different route but it could have ended much better.
I’ve seen other videos of people talking about the stories of the campaigns from the respective groups in Left 4 Dead, but you’re the one who takes the cake by a mile, in my opinion. Will there be any plans to cover the campaigns in more detail in the future? It will be such a thing to look forward to!
I try to do everything but left 4 dead content is on high demand at the moment. So yes, expect l4d videos in the future, and the passing will likely be the nest campaign video
@@ImNotConz That's awesome! Can't wait to see the next video. This may not be the right time for me to say this, but take your time as well, if you need it. Not everyone can be like robots and do things tirelessly. I support your journey!
@@moshimic5628 I appreciate it, thank you. But thankfully my life is very uneventful at this moment in time so expect that video to be up in the next 2 weeks or so. Thank you for the kind words, it does go a long way.
Although the story focuses on Bill and Zoey's relationship, I'm sure a lot of L4D fans had another heart strings pulled when Francis wanted to jump down and help him. They'd been at each other's throats most of games and to see him do that really shows that the group has been together.
Bill death is the worst and the best thing in the lore for l2d. Its sad that he dies but also necessary but fuck man its so sad... I really wish he could've be saved somehow
Yo, I just thought about this and here's an idea on how you could use the backstories of the L4D1 survivors: by using it once you do the No Mercy video (if you do it of course). I think it would be pretty neat to put it there.
In the comics Louis exclaimed they are causing the crashes even though the helicopter crash isn't really their fault I should know because I played the No Mercy Rooftop finale and the helicopter pilot said "Running late... Had a bit of an incident" meaning he got bitten as he was picking up some survivors because he then said this "Looks like your my last batch" meaning the previous batch got infected and one of them practically bit the pilot
10:55 ok so their will be two things that they hide for the 2nd survivor group. 1st is the Military is lying 2nd is they have sail boat ( but this was node for their rule " they wont leave behind their own") Speculation " the other voice line of Zoe at l4d 2. She seems want to tell something but cut of because they are already at the car. Maybe she wants to tell them about the boat or the military. Note 2 hope if EVER a L4D3 the military guys gets some time.
I really liked how this story played out but there was an error when the Passing campaign came out before the Sacrifice and the comic is the fact that the L4D 1 survivors would’ve warned the L4D 2 survivors not to go to New Orleans or the military would kill them, but perhaps if they added more story to it, they could’ve not told them because then they would ask to come with them on the sail boat but that would mean more mouths to feed which is why Bill’s words stands out “We look after our own.”
the more I think about it, the more I think of how badly naughty dog fumbled joel's arc. Joel's legacy mirrors bill in a way. In Bill's final moments with zoey he rights the wrong with her and ends up redeeming himself, saving her life. While Joel dies for nothing and ellie didn't even get to say goodbye.
I’m quite surprised you didn’t mentioned the piece of wall graffiti that mentions Atlanta as a possible holdout. I’m not sure where it is, but I swear I remember seeing it
Man i want valve to make a live action or animated series of L4D. I mean making video games into a series can be really good like arcane, last of us, fallout, edgerunners, Castlevania. if it has an amazing story then it would be a hit im sure l4d a fan favorite game would make a great series.
Woah, have we ever escaped on a train before?? Been too long since I’ve played. Plenty of cars, boats, planes & helicopters, but I can’t picture a traim
“never thought i’d say this….. but i’m gonna go hang out with louis.” Francis is fucking Hilarious xD
He says that in both the comic and the campaign
Fucking Gold
@@ImNotConz The thing I love about Francis, he genuinely loves and care about Bill n Louis despite his annoyance with them.
Bill then wakes up in DBD
Or Harran since he appeared in Dying Light I think
@@somedegenerate6622or the zombie army games
thats horrible, Bill didnt deserve to go to hell 😔😔
A fate worse than death
God, I hope that’s not canon to L4D. Bill deserves to rest.
One cool detail I found was that, the common infected can sense whether someone is infected or not. That’s why they only punch, kick or claw the main characters and not bite them.
@ thank you
The zombies bout to square up
I know this post is now 4 months old, but I wanted to add something. Viruses that get most animals to become aggressive and bite to spread themselves like Rabies stimulate the aggression centers in the brain. When you do that on a human, the natural response is to strike with fists or feet. If you want a human to start biting, you have to confuse the brain and make other humans seem like food. This is extremely sketchy biology but I think it explains why Green Flu infected attack the way they do.
also, very importantly, bill and zoey switch roles. bill realizes that living isnt any good if youre doing it at the cost of hose you care about, and fights back, dying as zoey said she would for and with other carriers. zoey realizes that dying in a last stand isnt worth anything if you refuse to be or dont have someone to lead and care for those you fight alongside with. bill learns to die, and equally tragically, zoey learns to live.
I think you overestimate Bill's desire to live vs his desire to kill. Kill things and protect the group.
Makes Sense. 🤔
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Another interesting fact in the Sacrifice campaign you’ll sometimes hear Zoey saying this “Great! Maybe we can find some new survivors and leave them behind” and Bill saying “Zoey I’m not planning you behind”
Then, in the end, the military kills them anyway. Also, there's a chance it turned out ironically backward.
funfact: Jim French(Bill voice actor) is also played the voice of Father Grigori from Half Life 2, both of the characters also sacrificing themself for their groups from zombie swarm.
Rip Jim French🕊🕊
This fact is an equivalent of "did you know that Viggo broke his toe on the set of Lord of the Rings" at this point
@@purple_1884 Tbf I didnt know either of these.
@@The_Raptordie you know that Viggo sacrificed bis Bill on the set of father Grigori 2?
As much as I would agree with father grigori His fate is still unknown I know there was supposed to be the episode Return to ravenholm But as we know that got canned So we literally do not know what the hell happened after gordon left
Still bothers me that zoey didn't told the 2nd survivors about the military killing carriers, there's dialouge at the end of the passing with louis asking zoey, "should we tell them?" and then zoey answering with something like "they'll figure it out."
Seems like they meant the 3rd game to start at the military base and it would probably be overrun by infected kicking off left 4 dead 3. In the passing the military was already killing carrier civilians who haven''t turned so after they get in that chopper they are definitely off to a military zone of some sort just like the og survivors.
@@tunamesutvalve needed to count to three,
I think it because zoey take Bill word to take care of themself and keep the supply on board for themself because she dunno wat will happen in the future. And For why not telling the 2nd survivor (and for why even louis doesn't tell the 2nd survivor too iz a major thingand he doesnt need to ask Zoey about that) about carrier thing there only few case I guess
1. They wont believe her and keep going like the two soldier jeb ( which I think it very low chance )
2. Think there maybe a chance for the 2nd survivor found some group that welcome them because it their only goal to survival since they have ammo limited and they will die when it run out so she dun want to make their hope go down
@@tunamesut in the leaked data of 3rd game, the military are using the carriers as soldiers against the infected. that's why the military was willing to evacuate the l4d2 group in the parish since they think of them as potential soldiers.
I think it's more of the continuity issues of where The Passing and The Sacrifice are in the narrative. To put it simply:
Zoey didn't bother telling them about the military for 2 reasons, 1 is that technically, the survivors have a mutuality with each other rather than a close-knit group. Hell, the two groups only got some bonding at the final part, and second is that my headcanon is Zoey putting Bill's words into heart: "We look after our own." That alone paves the way for the l4d2 crew to advance at Dark Carnival up to The Parish.
Left for dead, Tf2 portal, man. I miss valve comics, they were all so, so good.
Does he know about the 7th comic?
Man, I miss VALVE itself. Sure we got Steam which is great and all, but Valve used to bring out banger after banger...
Then Dota 2 and The International happened...
@@Shadrio but 7th comic :D
There have been new comics by valve, for dota, check them out
@@Shadrio and the “valve can’t count to 3”
3:45 - Mora doesn't "put a bullet in Major Everly". We see Everly trying to escape in a helicopter later on page 115.
AHH YOUR SO RIGHT
Then what was that panel? Mora is pointing the gun at somebody, I assumed it was Everly.
@@ImNotConz Pretty sure he is pointing it at Everly (Since he says "You are relieved of command", and Everly is in charge of Millhaven), but he likely just disarmed him and left him to fend by himself while he and his men evacuate, rather than killing Everly for no reason. There's not really any need to kill him after starting the mutiny, since Everly just needs to be powerless.
Could've also been a way of letting Everly face the infected who's existence he denied earlier.
Excellent point
Thank you for pointing that out
They shouldve added a reference to cod zombies on page 115 ngl
That is correct. Major Everly tried to escape via helicopter, and failed. The tank threw one of the vehicles at the helicopter, crashing the helicopter and killing him on it. I was tempted to comment about the same thing, but you beat me to it! 💯
The first time I played this map after a few years I got to the end and I was being swarmed from all sides. My gun ran dry and I shoved and moved inside, in my panic I was whipping my mouse around and when I saw a blue outline I grabbed it and began firing the M16 untill the infected stopped and the bridge began to lower. When I could breathe I turned around and found it was Bill's corpse I had got the rifle from. I cannot explain the feeling.
That's a cool fucking moment
Actual cinema shit there lol
@@ImNotConz i felt. Ooooh. I FELT.
Zoey: wants to find other Carriers and fight back
Zoey when meeting four of them and could’ve went with them: Nah I don’t feel like it
Kinda makes it even more tragic how Zoey says she's ready to die fighting and Bill wants to just live a peaceful life far away from all this, and it ends up completely opposite way for them
Bill's sacrifice likely made her understand his perspective, which could be what changed her mind. (Especially since she steps up as the new leader of the group)
Even if that isn't the case, she knows fully well that Bill died so they could get that sailboat past the bridge, and going along with the 2nd group of survivors would mean abandoning that goal, which would mean that Bill died for nothing.
@@JAiZRUclips while I agree that Zoey decided that she shouldn't let Bill die for nothing (since he specifically wanted her out of all of them to be safe), it shouldn't make this decision for her. It's her own choice what to do with her life, as it is for Bill. If Zoey would still feel the urge to help others she shouldn't hold back just because Bill sacrificed his life.
Zoey and the l4d1 could've warned them that the survivors are killing carriers and still didnt do it.
To be fair, Louis was injured, and they stopped trusting the military.
Then the other 4 came, and they weren’t even invited.
Looking out for their own I guess
zoe was tempted to go with them if i recall correctly. my guess she dint for luis who was hurt and would not be able to keep up
kinda weird they didn't join groups seeing as they're all carriers and badass, i'm sure they'd gotten along
@@p1tz0n16 don’t think the LF2 knew what carriers were. And I’m pretty sure the LF1 didn’t know that they were. Plus I think they just wanted to be on their own anyways
@@Rogue_Speed yeah i guess and also it would probably ruin the game lol
@p1tz0n16 It's not wierd though. Louis was injured, he would only slow them down. And they had enough of the military.
“You took everything from me but your not taking them🚬”
-Bill💔🕊️
Seeing Francis getting emotional and demanding to go back for Bill fully convinced he made it, is absolutely heartbreaking. Despite all the insults and crude comebacks, Francis must have really admired Bill.
That's why Bill is one of the legendary hero in gaming history, the story telling in l4d is so good including their bonding with the other survivors.
And that's how Bill appears in Dying Light, he got isekai'd to Harran
Wait what? Did Dying Light and L4D do a collab?
@@WallNutBreaker524 Yes they did, and on top of that. The L4D DLC in DL1 is free too!
@@Opposidfard 😳🤯
@WallNutBreaker524 Yeah, they did. A few melees from L4D were added and you can play as Bill
Well, it isn't Bill physically. It's an outfit that the Dying Light MC can wear.
Please, more. I love this content so much
It's... You. The one who made those awesome Fnaf Videos. 😳👌
Ellis?
it is insane how Valve is such an amazing company that all of their work is flawless , i'd kill for more content for L4D , such a cool game
Not all.
Artifact and Counter Strike 2 for example.
Still a relatively amazing company and one of the modern gaming pillars that prevents another Capitalism crash like Atari did.
They were an amazing company
Valve is the immovable object of the gaming industry, But when they decide to make something. The entire whole world will feel it.
@@defaulted9485Barely
@@NevaehCyanideLike Artifact? Lmao
Unrelated to the video, but the Sacrifice's Port would have made a great map for DBD (if the Left 4 Dead collab was more than just Bill as a survivor), especially with the theme of generators being a key objective there.
The Tank could have even been a killer.
They fumbled such a great opportunity
Probs would work better if it was just a map cuz most of the infected minus maybe the hunter wouldn't really work that well
For me, Bill's island is just a short lived paradise. Knowing how the mutations work where body builders become hulking beasts, gastric ulcer patients become monsters that spit acid, obese people becoming large ticking time bombs, I bet there will be Micheal Phelps like zombies that can breath underwater in just a few months.
that or peopel discover their island and try to live there too, only for it to all go bad per usual. paradise lost.
I think the 'zombies' starve since they are still alive and mutate so much they die.
Zoey: chastises Bill for 'enjoying' the apocalypse
Also Zoey: "pilots license...revoked. WOOOOOOO-"
I absolutely love Zoey as a character but my God that line is absolute cringe lol
bill's death still makes me tear up till this day
Its kinda ironic that team from L4D2 pursuit their goal towards Parish. And respecting L4D1 crew for making out off this hell. But because L4D2 crew doesn't even know about carriers, they don't have knowledge about this all. They doesn't even know about escape plan for L4D1 team. And knowing that valve never explained even in comic where L4D2 crew dissapier in heli after bridge. I assume i will stick to the version that L4D2 team repeated same consequences as Military from L4D1 comic. And probably will find island as a solution too, so they will find another boat))
I think that the conversation never occur to them or that the L4D1 crew assume the carrier thing is widespread knowledge. Overall, I don't think I can press too hard on them. I find myself in many situations that people forgot to warn or advise me about something because... I didn't ask them or that they assumed I've already known.
Yeah but I think by the end of Parish they are at least aware of carriers, considering the graffiti are very hard to miss.
8:30 Noticed how in The Sacrifice comic, you can see city skyscrapers in distance when campaign takes place in a fictional town.
you know what's really sad is that if they had waited & just climb higher & went to the other side of the bridge where they met the l4d2 survivors bill might've been alive
The problem is it would've been too much of a risk... There was too much zombies and too much special infected and the lift was slow as hell (when you played the Passing it was literally slow as hell)
The ending is perfect: When Zoey sees that Bill sacrifices himself for them, she realizes how far they’ve come just to try save someone and thats why she stops Francis from looking out for Bill
So Bill and Zoey switched mentalities at that moment, while Zoey learned to care for themselves, Bill fought one last time so they could love.
Something I liked and when you were talking over the description of the comic was the moment when Zoe would say how many more of us would you leave behind and the answer is he doesn't He's the one that gets left behind to save them
1:22
Alright I could be overthinking, but I like the detail of Louis knowing what an APC stands for, given that he couldve likely been into tactical stuff with his liking of video games and using the shooting range as a pass time during lunch before the apocalypse.
Man... revisiting this timeless master piece and walking back through memory lane with comics... A very powerful storytelling thats unmatched by any modern day post apocalyptic game story.
A bittersweet ending. Bill treated Zoey like his daughter even though Zoey wanted a different reality it was only until bill gave his life for her and the rest did she realize what he meant "we look after our own".
Prior she was infuriated with his lack of words and silence, taunting him calling him a coward who ran away from battles. Never understanding that bill himself have lived through countless battlefields to know better.
Even a ruffian like franics, the office clerk louis understood and never questioned bill.
Rip Bill/Jim French...
Bill in L4D: 🫡😎😡🥸🔫💣🔥
Bill in DBD: 🏃🏻♂️⬇️⬆️🪟💊🔦🫵🏼
the guys doing Arcane should pick up L4D and make a series out of it, a map a season.
Absolutely love the story writing. I didn’t know I have missed so much detail if it wasn’t for this video.
man, all they need is the boomer bile. Bill wouldnt have to sacrifice himself. One, just one boomee bile and he could absolutely made it back to the bridge and stay alive with the gang.
Maybe! If I recall correctly, the L4D1 survivors never found any bile during their games, right? Wasn’t it introduced in L4D2?
I don’t know enough about Left 4 Dead to explain why one group of survivors has access to bile and the other doesn’t, but assuming I’m not spreading total misinformation over the internet, then there has to be *some* lore to back me up, right?
You could argue it out with the lore and whatsnot, but... it's just a new thing added in L4D2. L4D group have never seen any vials because they weren't adeed at that point
I think boomer biles is something unique to where l4d2 survivors from, the CEDA employee tries to take them as samples but the hazmat suit didn't work as well as they thought. So I assumed CEDA didn't exist on place that l4d1 survivors passed through.
These replies are wrong. As we see in the Sacrifice teaser, Jockeys and Spitters as well as melees are shown. This means the L4D2 version of the Sacrifice is canon, and that the Sacrifice takes place later in the outbreak, likely just before if not simultaneously as Dead Center. Therefore they could definitely find bile jars around.
I also don't think Bill could get back up, since even if he avoids the tanks, the bridge would start raising before he gets back.
Thast freakin 3 tanks boomer bile is nothing for tanks will just crush everything just like it did in l4d1 trailer where tank smash zombies
You just earned a subscriber bro. I just finished your Spec Ops: The Line and your latest video. It should have been a crime to have such an underappreciated creator in your platform.
Thank you very much
It means more then you know.
I always wondered why this area attracted so many tanks, where there's always a guarantied one stuck inside the train, and the finale really floods them in, with 2 regular ones during the generator bit, and then 3 rushing you in the final part. Though it's weird in the Passing Campaign it's less dreadful on the other side of the river
The tank in the train car is probably the answer. Someone, somehow, was rounding up Tanks and sending them there via train, then all the Tanks escaped when whatever they were planning inevitably went to hell. As for why they aren't on the other side of the river in such large numbers, they probably couldn't cross the river. The bridge in the campaign is presumably the only bridge left standing in the city, seeing as the L4D2 survivors needed to cross it specifically in the Passing and the only other way across that they could find was an underground tunnel
Rest In Peace the GOAT Bill
Luckily, Bill learned how to become one with the Force.
“Who else will you leave behind bill?” And that stuck with him.
im surprised no one talked about heavy tf2 at 1:57
Oh lol
Wouldnt noticed it if no one told me to lmao 😂😂😂😂
One flaw about the sacrifice campaign is that the generator you need to restart is too close to the bridge. 😂 It should at least be the generator outside the storage building.. I think maybe that was where the generator mightve originally been because the turret can cover the line of sight into that building if it weren't for the box lorry.
Its possible that it could have been a farther generator but changed it during playtesting.
Just one or two special infected would be enough to ruin a player's sacrifice
@@Nebularban yeah even when it was that close, one jockey or charger or tank's rock throw and you got down instantly
7:14 Umm... Bill, that Doctor would've been very useful to your crew. 😢 This is probably why he ends up in DBD. 😂
I remember I got devasted when this campaign and comic came out, I used to play as bill all the time and at the time I was wondering "why tf didn't they kill louis?!" lol
Thank you so much po for making this series! I really love the interesting lore of L4D.
4:31
Bill over here beating Zombies with a fuckin chair like he’s Jerome from Halo
Thanks for linking the comic - I remember being able to download it at the time but lost the files & the link over the years of swapping PCs, thought I'd never see it again. Loving the story sum-up series
1:57 there a hearvy
Saw ur video on the Parish, loved that, so I was so excited to see this pop up. Yet another banger from Conz 🤙🤙🤙
I'm glad you liked it.
Thank you for the comment
9:31 That's what she said.
You wanna know what’s interesting the helicopter pilot being infected in No Mercy is not the survivors fault because I just played the No Mercy rooftop finale and in the radio the pilot says “Running late… had a bit of an incident” which is very similar line to the The Walking Dead Clementine’s mother says in her voicemail meaning the helicopter pilot got bit before picking up the survivors. Also another thing to add, hehe well Bill was freaking persistent in finding a sailboat even though Francis suggested that they can just take any motor boat to find a worthy candidate in fact the whole sacrifice thing could’ve totally been avoided if the crew turned around and did Francis’ suggestion
Theres actually a mod for sacrifice where theres a lot more talk and new endings
My favorite is alt ending is where you get a boat mid way in campaing (the place where you open a train that has a tank in it) idk why that happens maybe bill agrees with francis to look a boat with another boat
Second fav alt ending is kill them all when bill doesnt jumps down where you stand in bridge and kill the tanks eventually generator starts to work itself
please tell me the name of the mod, i NEED this.
One of my Favorite Campaigns
I had a hunch it was Philadelphia where the survivors started off at in Left 4 Dead! Just needed the comic to confirm it! I love this game so much, this game would’ve been great as a tv show!
One thing I never really understood was that why was the Doctor so late to going to the train? He was a carrier and he always intended to escape the base with his fellow carriers.
So why did it end up that it looked like he stayed behind with the soldiers before changing his mind again and trying to chase after the train.
Then Bill wakes up in Dead by Daylight. Permanently stuck in a endless loop of chase, pain and death
On the passing you can find bill dead 😢
Dude so glad youre makin these. As a kid gameplay came 1st. Id give my right joy stick finger to go back and spend some time in these lvls
Poor one out for Annie and Jeff, they were real ones
I came to the realization recently that the l4d2 crews only chance to survive was to stick with the l4d1 survivors, they were carriers and their only chance at any kind of escape.
YOU SHOULD DO ONE ON THE PASSING NEXT!
Saddest part is, if any of them knew about sailboats, they'd know you can pretty easily lower the mast when need be. If the boat was still too tall? Remove any hardware you can that's sticking up and start filling it with weights until it's low enough to pass under. The story demanded a different route but it could have ended much better.
Bill was a great character. The sacrifice made me cry.
Your videos are fun to watch perfect for pass time more power to the channel ❤
If anyone wonders if turtle rock or Valve did the heavy lifting for L4D, Back 4 Blood gives you that answer. It was Valve.
I’ve seen other videos of people talking about the stories of the campaigns from the respective groups in Left 4 Dead, but you’re the one who takes the cake by a mile, in my opinion. Will there be any plans to cover the campaigns in more detail in the future? It will be such a thing to look forward to!
I try to do everything but left 4 dead content is on high demand at the moment. So yes, expect l4d videos in the future, and the passing will likely be the nest campaign video
@@ImNotConz That's awesome! Can't wait to see the next video. This may not be the right time for me to say this, but take your time as well, if you need it. Not everyone can be like robots and do things tirelessly. I support your journey!
@@moshimic5628 I appreciate it, thank you. But thankfully my life is very uneventful at this moment in time so expect that video to be up in the next 2 weeks or so.
Thank you for the kind words, it does go a long way.
Although the story focuses on Bill and Zoey's relationship, I'm sure a lot of L4D fans had another heart strings pulled when Francis wanted to jump down and help him. They'd been at each other's throats most of games and to see him do that really shows that the group has been together.
12:18 not just in L4D but, in all video games ever
Bill death is the worst and the best thing in the lore for l2d. Its sad that he dies but also necessary but fuck man its so sad... I really wish he could've be saved somehow
U can the sacrifice has multiple endings
Yo, I just thought about this and here's an idea on how you could use the backstories of the L4D1 survivors: by using it once you do the No Mercy video (if you do it of course). I think it would be pretty neat to put it there.
L4D2 really needs a good show. A full comic series with an adaptation faithful to it; hell, Valve should make it with their animation skills!
This campaign alone tells a lot why Bill is a veteran
In the comics Louis exclaimed they are causing the crashes even though the helicopter crash isn't really their fault I should know because I played the No Mercy Rooftop finale and the helicopter pilot said "Running late... Had a bit of an incident" meaning he got bitten as he was picking up some survivors because he then said this "Looks like your my last batch" meaning the previous batch got infected and one of them practically bit the pilot
Man this an eye opening for me. Never thought they had a comics for the L4D gang
Another fun contrast is that Zoey and Bill basically fulfilled each other's dreams, bill died fighting the things and zoe took them to the island
Despite covering left 4 dead for the better part of half a year now
My dumbass never made that connection
Wow... your totally right.
10:55 ok so their will be two things that they hide for the 2nd survivor group.
1st is the Military is lying
2nd is they have sail boat ( but this was node for their rule " they wont leave behind their own")
Speculation " the other voice line of Zoe at l4d 2. She seems want to tell something but cut of because they are already at the car. Maybe she wants to tell them about the boat or the military.
Note 2 hope if EVER a L4D3 the military guys gets some time.
i never knew about the comic it adds even more to bill sacrifice he just wanted his own to be safe 😭
He would never leave them behind 😢
These two videos are so fire 🔥 growing up LFD and LFD 2 were my favorite games
It'd be so dope if there was a L4D Animated Series.
Thanks. I never read the comic and this added a lot to the story.
I really liked how this story played out but there was an error when the Passing campaign came out before the Sacrifice and the comic is the fact that the L4D 1 survivors would’ve warned the L4D 2 survivors not to go to New Orleans or the military would kill them, but perhaps if they added more story to it, they could’ve not told them because then they would ask to come with them on the sail boat but that would mean more mouths to feed which is why Bill’s words stands out “We look after our own.”
the more I think about it, the more I think of how badly naughty dog fumbled joel's arc. Joel's legacy mirrors bill in a way. In Bill's final moments with zoey he rights the wrong with her and ends up redeeming himself, saving her life. While Joel dies for nothing and ellie didn't even get to say goodbye.
So...we just gonna ignore the fact that The Witch wrote IT on the Wall, which looked liked the DVD Cover from the King Movie IT at 4:09 ?
Bill still brings tears to your eyes😢
Top tier video thank you for the content!
Thank you for the comment
I'm glad you enjoyed it
I was just playing the swamp camping on L4D2 and a tank spawned and Ellis said Bill’s here, I thought this was pretty cool
2:25 he’s kinda right how tf do they get uniforms that small?
Francis prediction is on spot
I like how you go straight to the point for the video
Wouldn’t it be cool if Annie and Jeff made a cameo in a future left 4 dead game (if they make one) or maybe even playable characters
This hits really hard 😢 7:14
Jesus Christ all the tears for Bill :-:,,,
I was thinking the same about the Mark detail
Man went through all that. Then gets sucked into an even shittier hell known as dead by daylight, dude can't catch a break
That player name was something alright
I mean, Bill was already at his 60's. If I were in that situation I'd sacrifice myself for the younglings too.
Great content man, hopefully you keeping growing 🙏🏻
hoping to release more content like this
I’m quite surprised you didn’t mentioned the piece of wall graffiti that mentions Atlanta as a possible holdout. I’m not sure where it is, but I swear I remember seeing it
Man i want valve to make a live action or animated series of L4D. I mean making video games into a series can be really good like arcane, last of us, fallout, edgerunners, Castlevania. if it has an amazing story then it would be a hit im sure l4d a fan favorite game would make a great series.
These are good. I love left 4 dead. Keep this up
Woah, have we ever escaped on a train before?? Been too long since I’ve played.
Plenty of cars, boats, planes & helicopters, but I can’t picture a traim
I don't suppose you can update the playlist for this to be in the order you uploaded them for ease of watching?