And They Were WRONG! @DJI
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- After many comments on my last video I decided to test out the height this can be flown using the autonomous mode and would it work without a controller
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I had the mini mini 2,3,4 and tbh they were amazing drones but I just didn't use 90% of what was on offer on each drone. So the neo for me is a basic fun flyer with little to use captures photo's abd videos . So right up my street. I did get he flymore so have more control than a standalone version. But a very informative video thanks.
Yeah it's perfect for just having fun and using for b roll or family photos etc.
Wow! Hover Air has amazing color..
the video quality is horrible, I hope they will improve that in the next version
It's not the best for 4k for sure
why you constantly mumbling? speak up man! neo does way more than a hover x1. I have both and hardly use the x1.
@vince-n if I'm constantly mumbling then you wouldn't be able to ask that questions as you wouldn't know what my video is about so wind your neck in baldie. And name one thing the neo does that the hover air doesn't. WITHOUT using an rc cos that's the whole point in an autonomous drone. Only an idiot would think this will replace a real drone for £169
I was in Vancouver, BC two days ago on the newest software version flying over the water with the remote. I just stopped videotaping and was taking photos wow, twenty feet from the shore over the water. When the drone decided to fly sideways, hit in the roof of a restaurant. Luckily, it went towards the land and not out towards the ocean. There is problems with this drone over water. No matter what they say with remote or without. I was able to retrieve the drone on the other side of the building on the ground. Undamaged luckily.
Apparently even in remote control mode the downward sensor can be affected if over water. I've seen a few people have similar issues.
This one is for a person like me new to drones , thx for the video, best is use remote connected for anything related to range
@khanimania I think the best thing with this drone is to just use it as an autonomous drone and forget the remote. I don't know why they diluted it's main aim by giving it the option of being remotely controlled. It just causes issues with it. Get a dji mini for that.
I'm really curious regarding where people are getting the idea that it's equal to a mini series drone with camera etc. I haven't seen ANYTHING suggesting it is. Anything I've seen markets it as a beginners drone to introducte drones with some auto features like the bigger drones, and can be launched by hand, doesn't need a controller for basic features, an intro to fpv and for those who have goggles it's a smaller version to mess around with because the props are well protected.
I haven't seen anything otherwise.
Maybe it's a country/region thing?
I read comments on one video that had entire threads complaining about it not being as good as the mini4 pro. I tossed in that it is not meant to be. Like, these people were angry. They didn't even know that it doesn't have a gimbal or an SD card slot. I'm not being a jerk, i assure you. I'm just genuinely curious where they're getting the advertising and capability specs from. Because there's NO WAY that i would think that a hundred people in that particular comment section would have no idea what it's meant for.
A few people pointed out, rudely, that it's a $200 drone and it should be obvious that it's not a camera drone. Like i mentioned, people were seriously angry about it not being equal to the mini 4 pro.
That's why I'm genuinely interested in knowing what advertising they are getting. I have the DJI account notifications on and it made it clear and even shows a kid launching it from his palm. My only guess would be that they're only seeing local best buy flyers or something and then the sales person is an idiot 😂 if that were the case dji should be told about it because some of these people may be getting ripped off for commission sales. 🤨
@TheClosetMonster totally agree with everything you say and spot on about it being a stand alone selfie drone. Problem is DJI have caused thus issue by allowing it to be connected to a controller making it more like a real drone. They should have left it as it is, a fun selfie drone for b roll and family fun. This has caused no end of confusion. Also, if you watch their RUclips video advertising the Neo, it clearly shows a guy on am SUP launching it from his hand yet they have clearly stated thus cannot be done. They're trying to outdo hover air by adding more features but it's just diluting a fairly decent and well priced flying camera. That is all it should be.
@NoviceWildCamper see, that's what I was wondering. I had a feeling it was being marketed differently and perhaps incorrectly. DJI should fix it right away so these people aren't losing the drones in water or deep woods etc. Anyone looking for a refund should definitely cite that ad. I only saw that it works with the differently
Specialized phone app or the very limited controller but insisted it's not necessary for first time users, it was just an extra step if you wanted to get used to a controller
I agree with what you said. After ordering my NEO, I viewed some videos that had me thinking I should return it (before even receiving the delivery). However, other videos I watched had me change my mind. After getting the NEO and trying it in my back yard, I think its a different "Class" of fun and will defniitely keep it. I have multiple DJIs, and I never expected the NEO to have perfect 4K video, I understand due to the size, it would not be able to stand windy conditions well, and it had limitations with battery capacity (it is Lithium Ion and not higher performance batteries like lipos). For the price and what I'd use it for.. I like it.
@MicheIIePucca I haven't actually experienced any of the camera issues others have had. It fits its intended purpose for me. I coach new and want to be pilots, and this is perfect for those who show up terrified to actually try the controller on a mini series. I get them to start with the hand, then work into the rc2 and the mini3pro. Then the 4pro for footage of they want it. Then, I get the neo to circle them as part of the package. They fly, get their 4pro footage, and the neo shows them how hilariously nervous they are 🤣
@@TheClosetMonster 🤣 sounds perfect
Mate. You hit the nail on the head with Dji's Neo " Expert ". My neo wasn't allowing me to enable direction track as a mode for the custom button. So I rang them up and chose the option for a neo "expert". Like with you he ummed and arrred and eventually said I needed to use a controller. I said rubbish as you can fly with your palm and I should be able to use direction track by just pressing the mode button on the drone. He put me on hold for 5 minutes and said that I needed to make sure I had a strong WiFi connection. Again I put him right by saying that's not correct either. After being put on hold for a 2nd time he said I would need to send it in for repair. I left the conversation feeling like I definitely knew way more than Dji's neo "expert" and now my little neo is on it's way to the Netherlands 🙄
@grossi46 that's an even worse experience than mine. Nightmare. I think they've missed mark with this drone.
Thanks for the videos mate, I've been considering getting either a Hover air or the Neo for its intended purpose. I do like the idea of the Neo for some b roll, do you find much use for it over just using a camera in the normal way on a tripod? I really wish the Neo was folding though like the Hover air but one can't deny that the Neo is a bargain at that price point & it's 4k isn't it? Sound quality using the phone definitely sounded better on the Hover air. I'm undecided on image quality between them, I think you will need to do a dedicated side by side on that ;)
@LoneWolfExplorer problem with the footage is they perform different in different lights. The neo perofmed well I think in the evening sunset shots,at least better than earlier in the day whare it was blown out but it is 4k so crisper picture. I'm chatting with hover air at the moment as they contacted me after the first video and hoping to get a demo model of the new one to do a real side by side comparison but for the money. I think the neo is great if just using for b roll but it would be in addition to my normal camera set up.
Hi, I bought this drone to take family photos when out with the kids on walks and holidays.
I think you hit the nail on the head.100% right
It's ok for general photos videos (quality not amazing) but it's not very stable in the wind ,I wouldn't recommend taking it up to high or water. I found it was quite good following my son while running in the countryside.
Spot on. It's great for that and having fun. I'll use it for b roll when I can't be bothered to bring the full drone set up. I used it with my son as well on his scooter at the park and made a little video of him. He loved it.
The Neo is a fun drone and a lot less hard on your pocket than other drones in this class. I wish reviewers would stop treating it like it's a mini 4 pro; it's just for fun and price relates that.
That's exactly what I've been saying. Ise it as an autonomous flying camera and it's excellent value for money. Start connecting it to an rc and using it like a drone, all you've got is a poorly performing drone that's more expensive than it needs to be. May as well buy a mini se.
Do not, i repeat, do NOT fly Neo above water when using quickshots out of your hand. Last sunday i executed a dronie from my hand while standing on a jetty because i thought it would be a nice shot considering Neo would fly back to me after 10 meters.
But after a couple meters in, Neo decided to land....yes on water!!! Before i knew, Neo was sinking and now Neo is chillin on the bottom of the lake 😢
Unfortunately i don't have DJI Care but i did reported a flyaway and they are looking in to it know. Hoping to get a new Neo 🤞🏽
@SkydiveToma fingers crossed buddy. They show it doing this on their own advertising videos so you could complain false advertising if they don't. I said it wouldn't work but people are still arguing with me. Iy may not in every case but if there's a chance it will its not worth taking it.
@@NoviceWildCamper Maybe it may work in some situations but i know for sure i will not doing this ever again without a controller. Thanks man!
DJI is sending me a new Neo. It's shipping atm 🥳👍🏽
@SkydiveToma nice one. That's basically an admittance that this drone doesn't perform how they show it performing.
I'm enjoying the NEO. This is my first drone. I got the full kit and it's tricky learning to control it. I'm glad I didn't buy the second hand mini, it would be trashed already
The whole point in an autonomous drone is not having to control it. It should work on its own. That's sort of my point in this and my last video
@NoviceWildCamper it's a bonus that I can still get shots without the controller while learning to fly. Even my 3 year old was able to launch it, run around giggling her head off as it followed/ chased her, and then have it land in her hands
That's exactly what it's designed to do. Be a fun drone. To operate as a proper drone it just isn't up to dji drone standards.
Sorry, but I can not understand what you say. You don't open your mouth to speak.
Learn English then. No one else has an issue.
I think the Neo produces more natural colours.
@jimcsnr yes but it totally blows out in the light. Too much exposure
Thank you for your review.
@@onemandrone no probs 👍
Great content, but may I suggest something for the future: When you speaking, it would be great if you could speak more clearly - sometimes it‘s hard to understand what you‘re saying.
@@kaspersergej my voice is my voice. Can't change that. Most people say I should do radio and not because I'm ugly 🤣
Prolly bc of where he's from.
@@NoviceWildCamper I'm sorry i dont understand could you type that clearer please?
@@kaspersergej I understand everything he said fine?
@@Elektromotoryczny what, England? And speaking English? 🤣
I own a bunch of DJI products, FPV and GPS, but I'm not a fan boy. I call it like I see it. In terms of video quality between the Hover and the Neo, it's subjective in my opinion. In the example you provided, the Hover looks mushy and over sharp while the Neo looks washed out but with more detail. I prefer the detail as opposed to over-sharpened mush but that NEO washed out image is gross. I do have a NEO on the way. I couldn't resist for the price. Thanks for the comparison and the info.
@originafreerangechicken they're both good drones if they're used as a simple flying selfie cam and yes agree on the quality. The 4k on the neo does make it sharper but it really blows out in the sunlight although I thought it did quite well on the sunset when it wasn't as harsh. Be interesting to see the 4k hover air when that's out shortly and do a comparison. They could jump ahead but they've got to get their price right, too expensive in my eyes. If a known respected brand like dji can do it for £169 selling their brand image then I'm sure hover air could too.
@@NoviceWildCamper absolutely concur
Not sure if it's because of the phone or the sensor capability, but it will go up to 30m whilst connected to a phone
@brad1908 yeah I did that in my first video. I think it's 60m but the whole point of this drone is for it to be autonomous and not use a control. That's where the issues lie.
For 199 you cannot get the top of the line logical. I saw so much video about the Neo people saying video quality and flying with WiFi and your phone not getting range and losing the signal. Please outside you use a remote….
@AlcyonOdyssey the whole point is to use outside without a remote. Why would you want to use a drone inside? It's to get a different perspective. It works fine outside with no remote like the hover air. That's what it's designed to do and for the price it does it well. Just don't use it like a normal drone with your phone or an rc and you'll be fine so long as you don't fly over water or a drop off.
Hi, I have a question if you could answer that would be great... If we connect the drone with remote like NC3 and then change the setting of video quality reduce the sharpness and all. AND fly the drone the video comes out better in that particular flight with controller, BUT next day if we start the drone in autonomous mode do we still have the same setting what we set on controller or it will get reset to factory.
In short, are we stuck with auto setting in autonomous mode every time start it without controller OR it will change forever once we change it from the controller ?
From what I've seen it will revert back to standard so you'll have to change again when using the remote.
Hi! Just saw your video and ive found out the answer why my Neo didnt circle around me as requested without mobile or controller. I was on a pier in the beach and i went to the end to capture a nice view with the city but after pressing the circle mode the Neo flew away and it didnt move anymore staying still on top of the water. I had to manually bring back so i kinda feel the brightness of the water like you mention might have blocked everything.
@DanRastovich there's been loads of these instances yet people still don't believe me.
@@NoviceWildCamper on the same day i drove into a high cliff mountain around my village and tried the same mode near the edge of the cliff that has an amazing overview over the village and again the circle mode didnt respond as Neo tried to lower altitude. Luckily he was close to the terrain. I was trying to control NEO with voice commands cause i feel it a great tool for the recording and some voice controls such as far or higher didnt worked. My RC2 controller is on the way so i kinda feel that you need to now well how this NEO reacts. But yea i agree on your comments that this is not what it should be. im sure a lot of people will loose NEO when not using controllers =/
@DanRastovich it's simply bad marketing. Hover air make a massive point of saying, no flying over water or drop offs. But dji show it doing just that making you think it will work on its own. Bad really.
@@NoviceWildCamper for sure the independent autonomous drone with 6 modes has some serious hidden limitations that will lead to a lot of losses and theres already some feedbacks here on youtube alerting for that! Hope they solve this issues and make this NEO more safe and more relient cause i belive theres potential here already in terms of versatility of all round drone. Thanks for your honest report! best regards
the hover is oversaturated. look at the details in the NEO. Neo color are natural and you can see the details in the flowers the grass and the sky. too much color in the hover. the colors in the hover are not true.
Most people are preferring the hover air though. Better exposure in bright light.
Neo's footage is just sooo bad. They could just firmware update it to use better settings on default
Hopefully
stil lwater could be a problem, moving with lines and waves should be good;
the neo can do all that but to be 100% sure they make u buy the fpv controller and fly manual ^^
Which defeats the object of an autonomous drone. My point entirely. Just buy a normal drone if that's what you're looking for.
Oh, and people are saying it really isn't very good as an fpv either.
the biggest issue is actually flying over water or a dropoff using your phone, no RTH, and will hover in place then land on low battery, when out of the phones wifi range, you would have been in trouble if that had happened over water and was just beyond the reach of the phone.
it absolutely does have internal gps, for position hold and height, it's in use in all modes, but you have no return to home when you fly with just your phone or in fully autonomous modes.
@BadwolfFPV exactly but even then it could just suddenly drop if the surface below doesn't suit.
@@NoviceWildCamperI'm still skeptical it will do that.
But it definitely has a problem. And you nearly showed it very well.
Repeat that test with your phone and pretend you're on a cliff or flying it over the sea, fly it till it's out of range, that will be the fate of many neos.
I've seen a few already. My initial issue was the fact that they advertise showing it going over water and drop off without using an rc or phone yet clearly admit it won't do it.
@@NoviceWildCamper very true, but it almost certainly will, provided if it does stop, like yours did, it's within range of your phone to be flown in manually, it definitely has a GPS onboard, but probably doesn't use it for the automated flights, i believe you can instigate them before the internal gps has found a signal, if the internal gps gets a signal before you activate an auto mode, and you are inside a geofence/NFZ, it will not take off, but if you quickly tell it to do a circle or something manually rapidly after turning it on, it will do the maneuver despite being inside an NFZ.
Do you use the mics internal recording or Bluetooth recording straight to the camera?
@@nyrubin on the drone?
@@NoviceWildCamper@NoviceWildCamper on the drone or when recording with the pocket 3, did you use any of the internal recording or did u just use the audio from the mic that gets baked in via Bluetooth?
I never dow load audio from the mic. I think just if you did when using the drone it wouldn't block out the rotor noise either.
I'm curious on how you think a drone can use the gps on your phone. I have built drones and taken dji's apart and I can tell you it takes very little room for gps to be installed into a drone. I looked up the specs for the dji neo and it says it has gps and again, please explain to me how you think a drone can be accurate in any way with the gps device located on the phone and not the drone.
Speak to dji. The gps doesn't work fully without being linked to a controller.
None of this applies to how I’d be using this.
Then watch a video that applies to you. Yt isn't designed just for you. It's designed for everyone.
Great information 👍 I'm on my 4th drone, no more once I lose this one. I did lose my mini 3 in a Loch due to not understanding the issue with the sensor. The mini 4 pro has been a revaluation for me who isn't a very good at flying. Way point and cruise control has taken the ideot out of the equation 😅 nice to see the Asta gear in the background 👍
@greyhikes5236 yeah I don't think my mini 3 pro has way points. At least it didn't last time I checked but may have had a software update since. I'd like to use those in future videos.
I'm not sure why you think it would drop automatically if it's over 10m in height without a controller? In the manual it clearly says it would land in place if it goes into Attitude mode, which happens when there is no GPS signal and insufficient light. As long as it still has GPS lock it wouldn't drop even if it's above 10m in height.
@SceneryFromSky so, if it goes over a cliff that you are standing on, it will see that it is more than 10m above the ground yes? And as you said, it will land. Hence, drop, off q cliff. Same thing. And at the end of the day, I only thought this was the case but DJI confirmed it. I'm just passing the message on.
Maybe when the drone is in autonomous mode, it doesn't not use the GPS to position itself, so when the downward sensor can't detect anything below, it lands.
@@NoviceWildCamper That's not how it works. It will only land in place IF it goes into Attitude mode, meaning if it loses GPS connections AND does not have enough light to maintain positioning. If it has either one of those available to it (GPS or enough light), then it will function normally.
@lingoting exactly.
No, if the downward sensor cannot detect the floor it will lower, until it can. Which is the same as landing. If there's no floor, it will continue to drop.
Sound quality is better with the Hover & your phone connected. ❤
@kimthomas829 definitely way better
Yeah I found that for basic shots the Hoverair was better too. Really surprising considering the 2.7k Vs 4k.
Yeah I think the hover air came out better for sure.
@@NoviceWildCamper yep. Also, I hope Hoverair do send you a pro or pro max I would like to hear what you think of it.
@@Altcine fingers crossed 🤞🏻
my dgi Neo just took off on me and flew into the water. Had it in follow mode while I was crossing a short river. guess you answered my question. Gunna try and talk to support tomorrow for a refund. but not hopeful. I just did a buyer beware video.
Yeah it throws the sensor out big time. Didn't see this comment till I responded to your previous one. Did you get refresh?
@@NoviceWildCamper no, didn't get the refresh. So they may be able to deny my refund on some technicality.
ALWAYS GET THE REFRESH 😂😂😂 I haven't had to use it yet but I've been close a few times
@TheClosetMonster I didn't get the refresh on this drone either cos its not going to be used in situations that I'm going to lose it really. I'm not using it as a drone, I have a real one for that..... with refresh 😂
@@NoviceWildCamper i have it on all my drones, mostly because my city is on the water and I get shots from the marinas and the ferry and from one side across to the other
DJI is the one on the right.
@kimthomas829 did you think the dji footage was better or worse?
@@NoviceWildCamper worse, more faded look.
@kimthomas829 that's what I thought.
Awesome image ❤😊
@@Phuong.Nguyen- thanks
Do you think they will add rc support?
You can use an rc
@@NoviceWildCamper I thought it was just the RC2
@Ghost47518 I'm not sure which remotes you can use but it can be used with an rc and the fpv goggles and hand control.
@@NoviceWildCamper Alright thanks
In manual mode, using the phone controller, you can go up 50 meters so please explain that? I have also flown over water using the phone manual controller.
@getfitover40 my entire point (and the point in an autonomous drone) is that you need something to control it to do that. It won't do it 'without' a controller. I must have said it a dozen times.
@@NoviceWildCamper The way I understand what you were saying, is that you needed an actual physical controller to get over 10m, you can get over 10m using just the phone app in manual mode is my point. Birds eye also let's you go over 10m even just using the drone on its own. DJI really does need to clear this up for us.
With the rc2 out can go up to 120m like the other drones, but I wouldn't trust it to go that high for dang sure.
@@getfitover40 Since the number of satellites is not displayed on the screen without the remote controller, it likely indicates that the drone is still relying on its sensor to execute those smart shots. Need to do more tests to find out...
@@lingoting Yes in Phone only mode you can not see satellite connections but I know the NEO is obtaining at least some of them as I live in a Blue Geofence Zone that requires me to authorize the NEO, and when using the Phone app, I do have to check a box to be allowed to fly in my area Blue Zone. I am not sure about drone only as there is no way to check a box and for the most part at home I generally use the App.
I still do not understand how this drone can be called an AI drone as I would have thought having this so called ai the drone could use its camera just like other ai robot products like a simple vacuum cleaner that can use its camera to detect and avoid dog poo, surely this so called ai drone can use its camera to avoid things like trees and other simple objects?
It needs proximity sensors for that otherwise it couldn't work out what it was or the distance. At the end of the day there's no reason why they can add an AI sensor into their existing drones so they can fly autonomously like this one without a controller. That would be better. Stepping down rather than up.
Love from Nepal 😅❤
@@RajendraBishwas-zb7zt thanks
a toy nothing else bad picture quality
@@rk71happyworld48 true.
It's not marketed as a camera drone. I've been wondering where people are getting this info from bc I've been seeing it a lot in comments. It's a beginner drone meant for those who are interested in flying but are not wanting to invest $1000. I haven't seen any advertisements to show otherwise so I'm really confused. It clearly states what it's for in anything I've seen. 🫤
It's marketed as an automated selfie drone that can also be used with a remote controller. That's why they sell it as a stand alone autonomous drone. All other drones come with an rc cos you have to have an rc to use them. This, you don't. Hence it's a camera dron but... can be used as a normal drone albeit a poor version.
Máy bay dji neo của mày bị lỗi rồi .không ai mua dji neo mà bị như mày cả.chỉ có máy của mày thôi. Đừng nói xấu dji neo nửa
Read the comments pal, there's tons of other so don't make a sweeping statement just cos your a dji fan boy.
How is it going?. ncie . Novice,
@@eprohoda eh?
Hello @NoviceWildCamper, we are sorry to hear about this feedback. Would you mind sharing with us about the hotline you called and the call time of the conversation? We will further check and review this case with our relevant team to enhance our products and service. Thank you for your understanding.
It was sometime between 10 am and 12 on 9th September. The issue is had was that you show the drone flying over water with no remote but this clearly shouldn't be done and this was confirmed by your team. I have had several comments where people have lost their drones due to this.
@@NoviceWildCamper Could you please provide us the ticket number of the conversation? Thank you
@@DJISupportGlobal I've never had a ticket number when ringing you guys.
Neo has a horrible camera. I returned mines
@@exil3dlivecom it's not the greatest. Hover air is better.
Shoot! I was going to buy 3 of them. I have a mavic2 pro but it fell down the stairs as it ran out of battery