Synology DS923+ 4K PLEX NAS TESTS
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Many who have been following the release strategy of the popular network-attached storage brand, Synology, have been noticing something of a shift towards premium business products this last few years. The brand still features numerous solutions that are targeted toward home, value and prosumer users, but it is undeniable that Synology has been giving a great deal of attention to top-tier business and enterprise above all else in 2022. So far, the new Synology DS1522+ NAS is a solution that on the face of it is something a little bit more SMB and Prosumer, arriving in a 5 Bay desktop chassis and mid-range server CPU form. This new system has striking differences in a few key areas though compared with the DS1520+ predecessor and with little mention of a new DS922+ or DS923+ from the brand in any form, many are wondering if the new DS1522+ is what the shape of the smaller end of the Synology portfolio is going to look like moving forward. Today I want to review the Synology DS1522+ to find out whether this new iteration of the popular Diskstation series is a move for good or for bad, discuss its hardware and what this newer configuration of hardware is able to do. Let’s find out if the Synology DS1522+ NAS deserves your data.
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As a noob thank you for reiterating 1080 plays fine and going through the 4k test with understandable explanation of codecs
Robbie, would you consider doing a bit of a sidebar discussion on video format / codec basics; MP4, MKV, HVEC, 1080P, etc. Maybe a bit about the evolution of these formats. And, what they give us and how they relate to our choice of NAS hardware.
The plex application on the xbox series S/X console perfectly reproduces 4K HEVC H.265 and other video files directly without transcoding on the PLEX server side!
Thanks! Beautiful. 264 and 265 bit of video saved me $$$
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Great video..... what was the RAM memory size of your NAS (8Gb standard or higher) or does it matter? Have you a video on the advantages of having more RAM on your NAS?
Thank you!
Brother, I love your videos they are great. Question...do you have a preferred handbreak profile? Something with maybe a 40 bit rate h.264 so I can transcode all my media so I don't have buffering or transcoding required. I run 1gbe at home and 5G on my phone. But sometimes I do get buffering and it's annoying. Can you help?
Hello, does PLEX decoding for HEVC anyhow would interrupt or slow the CCTV 6 x 8MP cameras recording to HDD's and/or viewing them on/via this NAS?
Glad my trusty 918+ is still just as good as the new options (or better) for plex.
Newer isn’t always better. Sticking with my 918+ 😎
Where did you get the plex package?
Would the Synology DiskStation DS920+ run the videos that the Synology DiskStation DS923+ had a hard time playing or couldn’t play? Could you do a video where you do the same test you did I here but on a Synology DiskStation DS920+. That would be really helpful in my decision to purchase a DiskStation DS920+ or DiskStation DS9203. Thanks for the great video.
Hi. Most of my movies or serials are in 1080p and I put OpenVPN to watch it outside and everything is running overall normally. I think that problem is only when playing with 4k formats. Is that right? Thanks
What is the best nas for storage of 4k movies for a person that is just starting out
I just bought a DS920+ It will be here tomorrow. maxed out the memory. I'm putting in 4x8TB IronWolf. I've watched all of the DSM 7 Setup guides Thanks for the great content. 11/30/2022 2004
Wait, you didnt get it for plex did you?
@dubsessed I corrected the typo I'm getting the DS920+
Hey i will be getting your exact setup. How is it going for you? Plex 4k? And have you ever used jellyfin?
Hello after I install in my Nas 923+ when open say “not Authorized” and don’t me allow to my Nas media files? I have create a video folder and allow Plex server to access in control painel
Hi - I have a DS214Play that I am wanting to upgrade, I want to run virtual machines and use it for storage and for streaming. I was set on buying the 923+ but after viewing your video re no onboard graphics, I am considering alternatives. What would you recommend I go for? I would like to stay with the Synology brand and would like more than two bays.
that was so helpfull
I get you are more familiar with NAS as master. I remember the synology used to decode via video station. I get the r1600 doesnt have gpu is dump move giving 10gig and removing video trans coding. For 2023 it should be power house support 2-4 trans-coding . Most devices have 1-4 devices and not all can decode on the fly. So for Plex server is this NAS recommended or not.
Thanks! Which nad is better for Plex in this monet?
Money*
Thanks for the review!! ....for my media will be Synology DS 920+.
Why did Synology just upgrade the intel Cpu with the new one i3 or i5 with a Graphic accelerator ??
Big mistake to go with DS 923+ for media, skipped it!
I think Synology will come crawling back to us with an Intel based 725+/925+ once they experienced the 723+/923+ sales disaster.
I went directly to 920+ as soon as I saw the 923+ specs and media usage review from NASComapres... big mistake from them
@@GodrixXx agreed, its like they saw Ryzen and thought "people like those" and forgot all about people needing intel quicksync much more than a slightly better CPU (Ryzen) that doesn't affect much in most peoples use cases. The ryzen is wasted unless you are running some VMs on your 923+, but its still not a great solution for even that use case.
@dubsessed9790 I remember amd was underperformed cpu since 00s 😂
They just choosed a ryzen with no gpu. We know where the APU king is in this segment. It's just a poor choice by Synology.
And AMDs "quick sync" is called VCN.
I know I should have worked this out I currently use my 5700 G to run plex but it's very noisy I want to have a nurse but I don't know what 1 to go for Most of the people I stream to like the grandchildren and my kids which day is a total of 30 Not streaming all the time None of them stream fire trains coding as I have 3000MB up load speed Could you recommend a nas that would be suitable for what I need
Every time I hear you say, "it's playing absolutely fine", I notice stuttering in the playback shown. Unacceptable for me, but that's maybe due to what's running in your system or network performance ? Or is it due to the NAS ?
Help please! I just need something that will house my high quality photos and videos recorded in 4K 60fps (HEVC?) and give my family the ability to watch the videos from their iPhones as seamlessly as if they are still saved on the devices. I will not buy QNAP again as their security flaws are unforgivable and they have made my current TS-470 pro obsolete. I am not able to view H.265 files anymore. I just bought a 923+ to replace it, but did I make the wrong choice?
Just came across your videos and they have given me some good information. I just picked up the 923+ to replace my WD EX4100 that I have been using as a plex server and just to store other media. I just learned this doesnt have the graphics built in which is one of the reason I wanted to upgrade as I was having issues with plex streaming outside my house and not have a good enough cpu in it for that and figured this having more ram and a better processor than the ex4100 and came recommend from the sales guy at microcenter. Now with that said would it be better to pickup a Nvidia Shield Pro to do the Plex encoding or something like a Intel Nuc to run the plex side?
I see nobody answered. Did you get a NVidia Shield? How's it working?
I have not yet. Had some other stuff come up. But right now I have actually had good luck streaming outside my house on this nas so not sure I will need it.
@@mikeallred213 Thanks!
@@mikeallred213so even without the built in graphics running mobile plex outside the home has been okay? How about 4k?
Hi! Please,
I really do not understand why people are bothering about transcodeing on DS923+. I really do not understand...
I have Plex server on DS923+ and everything is running great. Plex server, DS 923+ is doing transcodeing only for computers, mobile phone, etc. that doest not support 4K and than Plex server, DS 923 + have to do everything for them.
Today and for last 10 years most of all devices have 4K support.
All movies on 1080p are great and for that resolution movie runs great and that should be fine. Isn't it?
Is there something more that I do not know?
As I said my DS923+ is running all movies and shows without any problem.
Just one thing that I done is that I put OPENVPN on my mobile phone and it runs everything much quicker.
Is there something that I'm missing?
Thank you very much!
Thanks in advance.
Elvir
Ow cmon those Synology SSDs are just insane over 300 euro for just 800 GB. While other brands offer fast SSDs for 104 euro for 2 Tb thats like € 0,052 vs € 0,387 per GB.... that's almost 7,5x more.
I had e-mailed Synology about the lack of transcoding on the 923+.. I actually got a reply back from the Product Manager..
"we did not offer support for hardware transcoding in the last generation of products (DS1520+ and similar.) We didn't advertise it and we can't offer support for people having trouble using it so the feature of the CPU was available entirely as-is. As it stands we aren't focused on providing transcoding capabilities in our products and the need for doing so has diminished over time.
The device that is used to view the video is what determines playback capability so any NAS can host 4K content. Transcoding is used when your playback devices are not capable of playing back the video format or audio/video codecs of your files. It can also be used to reduce quality or resolution for off-site streaming. When transcoding the video quality is always reduced so to ensure the best playback use a compatible playback device so no transcoding occurs."
I understand their position, however my videos are in all different formats and generally need to be transcoded. I had tried QNAP in the past but switched to Synology because QNAPs software just seemed like it was buggy not to mention the security concerns. However, there's no arguing that QNAP has much nicer hardware options and isn't pushing their own hard drives, memory and SSD down their users throats. I just don't know if I'm ready to go back to QNAP for transcoding. I might be firing up handbrake and converting everything to support direct play.
Will Plex work fine on a new AppleTV without making the NAS convert?
Yes why not or just share the files and play it with infuse on apple tv. Converting is retarted anyway why would u have a 4k uhd hdr film collection watching on your 4k oled tv you always want original with plex or infuse. and by the way i use infuse plex is crap with transcoding audio and audio sync
@@SimRacingSKplex sucks 😂 I can't understand this transcoding obsession 😂
Should I get this one or synology ds423+? Can't workout which one is a good overall one..
Have you decided already? I have the same problem
Chrome has HEVC support now.
But isn't there conversion tools that automaticaly convert to H264 overnight for example? And then later we can watch them converted?
Yeah, I don't see a huge problem with having to pre-convert things. Unless someone can tell us the drawbacks of that.
@@ItsEverythingElse Technological illiteracy is the only roadblock, and frankly such people shouldn't be looking into NAS's in the first place.
Really wish they would have went with a graphic enabled AMD or Intel chip...
Maybe there is still a chance for 423+ which may be more home oriented?
@@grzegorzwojtas7314 For me it's too late. I already went with QNAP. To me, they squandered the 3 strike rule. The could have easily, so easily put next gen usb, 2.5/10 gbe, graphic enabled cpu, pcie. Shame the OS is nice, but it isn't enough for me to serious consider it with the junk hardware...
Hey. I have a synology 923+ 4bay. I upgraded the parts to 32gb of ram, 10gb Ethernet port and 2 400gb ssd cache. I ripped my 4k UHD blu rays to mkv files which average out to be 50gigs per movie. Watching them on plex at home it works flawlessly. But watching them outside of home it buffers every few seconds. Do you know what the problem is?
Sorry my ssd’s are actually 800gb each
If you have a 50gig movie you're basically trying to transfer that much data for the length of the movie. Say the movie is 2hrs. You'd then need at least 55mbps of bandwidth assuming there's no overhead (which there always is). Even if you have that bandwidth most devices on wifi or cellular will not be able to consistently pull that.
Hi. You have to set up OpenVPN as you are at home and you will watch them normally.
I am watching it on my notebook and mobile phone and everything is running normally.
Ugh, this is so annoying. Before going the Synology route would be a no-brainer for me. Right now considering the QNAP TS-464 instead, even if that doesnt allow me to benefit from SHR which is absolutely killer on the Synology.
Maybe just stay on 920
@@Pi22aPino that has crossed my mind, however I would like to be able to use 10gb or at least 2.5gb LAN.
@@Pi22aPinoStill have 920+ me not regretting it
All my clients are capable of converting on the fly, how do I enable Plex on Synology to let client handle it?
The clients do not perform transcoding with plex, its only server side transcoding or direct playing files (no transcoding)
@@dubsessed9790 Thanks for that. I'm wondering why Plex on AppleTV chooses to transcode some files and not others. Very weird and inconsistent. Same file that requires transcode on Plex but using Infuse plays directly without transcode both picture and sound, and should it come across not Dolby soundtrack, it stills playbacks no problem (though comes out as PCM).
After much debate we just ordered a 923+...but have we f'd up? Here are the factors: 2 adults who are NOT gamers. We watch on one large TV and will NOT be using any remote clients. We will NOT be sharing our Plex library. We have about 8000 DVDs. MOST are standard DVD's, 40% are ripped from DVDs and have been compressed to fit 4.7 disks. And, about 10% are BluRays. I only understand the very basics of the 923 not having a graphics processor and not being able to play some really dense media, but, will the 923+ work for us or do we need a NVidia Shield Pro or Apple TV box?
This might be way to late and you might have found it out by yourself, but the nas is there to store the files en serve them to a player. The device is not a player. So you need something like a laptop, apple tv, shield, chromecast, firestick etc.
Nice video, but when I do compare it with my Qnap Tvs-h674 with an Upgraded GPU (Nvidia quadro p2000 5g) I can go back to the slow streaming, I used 2 like Synology... no more.. thanks for the video, It reaffirmed my decision to change to Qnap.
Qnap is generally a bit more forward thinking in their hardware for sure, I just still don't trust their dev team after some of their active security exploits. Their cache drive handling is definitely better than syno though
Glad you did this review. I've been looking for a NAS for a while. So disappointing for my use case
I had problem about my synology nas
And Steve Baker
Technical Support Engineer write me about my problem that
We are sorry to hear that your DS218 has to be reset. This is likely caused by an issue in the DSM operating-system.
We understand that you are worried about losing your data. Please rest assured, your data should not be affected by the reset as the OS and data are stored in separate partitions on the drives. When re-installing the OS, the system should normally not touch the data-partitions of your drives.
I beleived and i did what he said now all my data erased omg i shocked after sir Steve Baker dissepeared i am alone there is nothing in my hands
Synology is regret bad nas choose qnap there isnt good support for problemss !!!
There is no good service and support becarefullll!!!
So essentially the 923+ is still not suitable for any transcoding. End of
I’ll stick to 723+ as I only use my NAS for media
723+ will be the same
The 723+ has the same Ryzen CPU, so it will be the exact same. If you need transcoding, stick to the 720/920+.
I assume you mean 720+?
@@jasperverkroost He might be saying he'll stick with it because it's not actually an upgrade from the 723+
I was really expecting something really more.. pffff. What a shame
"transcoding" ??? - wtf is that for?
So as I understand it transcoding is taking a really big 4k file and compressing it to a smaller size. So if you are accessing files remote the files come through without a lot of lag. Without transcoding your one little movie might take 2 hours to get. So it depends on how you are going to access your files if you need it or not.
H264 in cinemas?????!!!!! You gotta be kidding. Cinema is JPEG200 these days... 🙂
Such a horrible movies selection 🤮