Synology DS423+ NAS 4K Plex Tests
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
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00: 45 - Disclaimers, Test Setup and Methodology
05:51 - Start of the Tests
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After coming from your DS923+ Plex video, and then watching this one, I think it's obvious that the DS423+ suits my needs better.
Thanks so much for that review of Plex playback. I've been considering buying the Synology DS423+ for storage & an Emby server. This will be my first NAS & I have found all your videos & reviews a valuable resource for my research before buying. I really like your clear concise approach & your sense of humour. (I hate seagulls)
This video is great! One question tho: Does the Apple TV 4K transcode/convert/etc ? Or is it server side in this case? Thx, have a good one!
I enjoy your videos.
I wonder if there is a Synology NAS system that handle PGS subtitles (especially on 4K HDR videos) better than the DS918+ that I have now?
I know that SRT subtitles work lots better, but they look ratty on screen and they almost never sync to the video correctly.
Maybe you could do a comparison sometime?
Did you install Plex on the m.2 MVNe when you did the tests above? Would it have made much of a difference if it was installed just on the drives? If you did install it, what brand/size/model of M.2 MVNE did you use/would you recommend for a Plex isntall?
You mentioned at 2:05 you would taalk about the memory later on but I didn't hear anything ... did I miss you mentioning it somewhere ?
Thank you Rob.
So for smooth playback from older boxes like 920+, we should install a conversion app on the box to convert 4k h.264 or MP4 to smaller h.265?
h.265 takes more system resources to play not less. I believe the 920+ should play 4k h.264 fine, do you mean transcode 4k h.264?
@@nadtz thank you and yes, i meant transcode, now that i think I know what that means (:-)
Is there gonna be much of a difference between a ds423 and a plus model?
The more I watch about transcoding etc. the less I understand what I will actually need.
This year releases confused me even more.
Is simple, you have CPUs with integrated graphic like this one and CPUs WITHOUT integrated graphics, if you need a NAS for Plex or to stream video files from your NAS to other devices in your home like TVs, iPads, Phones etc. make sure you buy a NAS with a Intel CPU WITH integrated graphics. NOT with a CPU WITHOUT integrated graphics like some Synology that have now an AMD CPU.
Yea, thanks, but that I understand.
I was waiting for 2023 releases to see if there will be proper replacement for DS920+, and to my eyes this time around it is DS423+.
Im a bit disapointed that there is only 2 gigs of ram, but 423+ original configuration should be sufficient for my use case, which is storage for photos, media server, ocasionally file server to be able to share files and… and one thing Im not sure if I get right. Will it also be able to handle being NVR for jome surveillance? I dont quite get it how much of a burden will about six H.265 4k cameras be, and how will the nas handle all this at the same time.
@@wizsc Well, that depends on how many cameras you will be running and at what resolution, this can do it but for more than two cameras I will much prefer to have an independent system like Unifi NVR system.
@@pbrigham I am going to use at least four 4k cameras and maybe one FHD camera.
I was wondering if my NAS resources will be used only when I am viewing streams, or it is going to be under load all the time? I will use 4x Reolink RLC‑810A (4k) and maybe one Reolink RLC‑510A for garage. Those devices stream in a way that NAS have to do the work to compress files to H.265 or its cameras job, so NAS only mostly stores data and uses its resources when user need to view streams?
@@wizsc It is a lot of cameras and a lot of data because is 4k, you should have a dedicate NVR for this and is not only that, you should be using proper HDDs for this like the WD Purple that are HHDs made exactly for this to write surveillance video data. Synology has a NAS just for this but is extremely expensive, so I don't recommend that, you should get an NVR dedicated solution only for this tasks with WD Purple HDDs. This HDDs are cheap and only recommend for this task.
Great video. Like many, I'm deciding between the 923+ and the 423+, upgrading from the 418play. What are some examples of clients that do not support HEVC? I run Plex on an iPad Pro, MBP and Apple TV. My need to transcode is mostly to convert 1080p to 480p while I'm traveling w/ remote connection; the 923+ should be able to handle this right? I don't have many 4k files now, but this might be different 5 years from now. I use my NAS for back ups, photo management, and Plex... I think the 423+ is prob what would suite me best, I'm no power user.... but I just hate the idea of giving up CPU power and expandability. ugh decisions.
I am in the exact same boat, what did you go for?
@@dekodE_ I'm 98% sure I'll be going with the 423+. I was reading another review where just transcoding 1080 to 720 took up >96% cpu usage on the 923+, so add any background task and those videos likely won't play back smooth... And simple transcoding like that is a very possible real use case for me as even compatible files seem to get transcoded while I'm on a remote connection.
@@MattCheol pulled the trigger on the 423+ im on the same boat as you
@@GodOfWAP169 happy with the decision after 4 weeks?
It's not just the device, its also the TVs. I have family members with 4K roku sticks plugged into 720p TVs. The NAS has to transcode the content down to 720p for them despite Roku supporting 4K. Sadly the Roku doesn't do it. So, if you are serving up content to TVs that aren't 4K there will be transcoding done.
Great video as always. Would you still recommend the QNAP TS-464 over the Synology DS423+ ? They both seem to be similar in capabilities but the DS423+ is $150-200 cheaper in the US.
Depends what you're using it for, but as a pure plex server the 464 is the way to go. Better hardware tends to be the best bet for Plex. For other things besides plex/media streaming the Synology software can change alot of opinions.
Dont get the 464 its so ugly with the gold colored side panel.
Would a nuc be better for plex, for local streaming only?
A ran Plex on a powerful NUC for about a year but the fan screaming became worse and worse.
Now using a HP EliteDesk G3 Core-i5 16Gb as PLEX server and my trusty 8 Bays Syno as storage.
All good and the HP has moved to another room than lounge.
I got a NAS server but the UPS won't let the NAS to boot up again after AC Power comes back. Any idea? Qnap TVS-1288x + CyberPower vp1600elcd
Boot the NAS with a HDMI cable attached, goto bios, ensure wake on power is turned on, save and exit.
@@timeobserver8220 When my Qnap server get a real power cut the server will boot up again after the power comes back. But when using the UPS and the power cuts the NAS will shut down but not boot up again when UPS got AC power back
@@DenhefDigital That's correct. Thats why you configure the NAS to only shut down when NAS is on the last bit of battery. This is hard to configure with multiple devices on the NAS. However if you know with the current device list you can maintain say 10 minutes of battery and the NAS takes 1 minute to shut down then you would set the NAS to shutdown at 2 minutes of battery life remaining. You would have another device on the NAS to use and drain the remaining 1 minute of power to cause a proper power supply cut and resume to the NAS. If you're not able to do this, you will always have this problem because the NAS is operating as the control software for the NAS. You can get around this with smarter UPS devices that trigger a supply cut and resume when mains power resumes and they don't detect any current on the port of the NAS. However the cheap home UPS models don't have this feature. To solve this properly with a cheap home UPS and with shutdown on mains power loss set on your NAS you need to move the control of the NAS startup to a secondary computer. When the secondary turns on from mains power resume, checks if the NAS is running and if it's not triggers it to start remotely via WAKE ON LAN packet. A raspberry PI would work etc.
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I love the work you're doing. Quick question, where can I find the Jellyfish test files that you use. I'd like to have those just to test my Plex setup.
No worries man. The original disti/source for these files has long since gone offline, but the ones I was still able to find/maintain can be found and downloaded here - nascompares.com/2022/08/26/how-to-test-your-plex-media-server-nas-4k-1080p-hdr-hevc-and-uhd-files-to-download/
@@nascompares Thanks.
I’m new to NAS. I want to get a 423 or 923. From this video it seems the 423 will play mostly everything. What’s the advantage of spending the extra $100 for the 923? Like when will I make use of the better hardware? I plan to use it for Plex and backing up files from my computers. The only time Plex will be used outside the home is for videos that are 1080p or below (my kids cartoons)
esata, ecc ram in normal format instead of so-dimm, 8gb ram instead of 4gb ram...
Why on earth are you not confirming via the " (hw)" string next to the user playback details at the bottom (under the CPU) that its using the hardware encoder properly on each of these videos? CPU graph only shows some of the picture. Each time yous tart a video or change the transcoding settings on the video to force something else you need to check if the " (hw)" string is present to confirm the hardware transcode is working with that particular combo. Even better would be to tail the plex transcode log, but you need to be comfortable with *nix terminal to do so.
So, the bottleneck isn't so much the CPU but rather your LAN. If you have wired connectivity; you should be good to go. Not bad for $500...!
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