My dad and I are truck mechanics. i bought him a hitachi drill and driver set for christmas 5 years ago. Since then, the WH18DGL Impact Driver that came in the kit has become our most used tool. Brushes are still in decent shape, all it needs is a fresh trigger. We now only use hitachi cordless tools. Not to mention the batteries are dirt cheap.
I just ordered this through your affiliate link. Thanks for taking the time to draw attention and showcase this amazing new tool. I've been using the Ridgid Stealth Force for almost a year now and thought it was the best performance option until I saw this today. Price is a little higher than I'd like to see, but I can see why with all their new upgrades. I've been saying it would take a special tool for me to venture out of the Ridgid 18V lineup, with the way they've been crushing it since GenX5, but this tool is special.
Scarry Polpetta They're both great (more so the Makita than the Surge IMHO) but this is the best overall impact. Its third anvil/increased speed/reduced vibration and IP56 rating put it over the top of Makita, Milwaukee, and DeWalt's best offerings. You really can't go wrong with any of them, though.
greenskiis yes, i'm relly interested in that ip rating, since I often have to work on boats or next to water this is a great impact, but I wouldn't switch to hitachi just for this model, maybe makita or milwaukee don't have such a great machine, but they have a huge lineup with great products for each application
Scarry Polpetta Good points; I've heard that Hitachi will be releasing more of their higher-end products stateside soon. Here's hoping as their best products are easily high-tier like the Big 3. (their Japanese selections are *huge*)
greenskiis If they're going to make a big powerful hammer drill, a small compact drill, an impact wrench and a grinder that are at least comparable to the ones from makita or milwaukee, maybe IP 56 i'm sold on hitachi
Ive had this tool for about a year, very impressive. The ip56 rating is nice when working in snow or very dirty conditions (which for me is often). Smooth and precise but also very powerful. I normally go a week between charges on the small batteries. Best impact ive owned. Makita is a close second
Absolutely fantastic review. Great filming and editing as well as presenting. Class leading tool reviewer on RUclips. Thanks for the time and effort you put into this work. You and OzToolTalk are the best two power tool channels on RUclips worldwide.
Awesome review. I appreciate the level of detail and the dedication to test the run time. I already have the Hitachi 18V brush less drill and driver (DS18DBL) and I think this impact driver is going to be a perfect addition to my collection.
Wow Hitachi is really stepping up their game! Triple hammer, IP56, nice LED features, ultra compact batteries: looks like they are going for the higher end market. I reviewed their cordless multitool and was quite impressed with it as well. I do wish they would put their battery gauge on the battery rather than the tool though. Great review by the way, totally comprehensive!
Thank you Mr. For making the best impact drill review. I almost never subscribe to any channel but i will now. I flip houses myself and own many sets of drills from the top brands and I'm really impressed with hitachi.
Lowes has the Metabo HPT 18v Hammer drill and Triple hammer impact driver with 2 batteries, charger, and bag for $129 on BF! Totally picking this up just for the Triple hammer alone👌
I have the old model I've had for probably 7 years and love going up to long lag bolts used to secure equipment to shipping skids and remove them when co-workers Makita and DeWalt failed my batteries are getting old and am looking into this model. I have been very happy with Hitachi tools. another bonus is the lack of them on job sites and other workers mistaking batteries as there's
Underappreciated brand. Almost all of my small engine equipment (string trimmer, leaf blower, hedge trimmer) are Hitachi or Tanaka (their other brand) and are fantastic. Stihl or Echo quality for less. I think their power tools are great too. They just don't have as large a variety of tools as some other brands so that might be the only downside for some people deciding what system to buy into.
WOW!! I'm really impressed with how Hitachi is pushing innovation... Incredible.. We are so lucky to be living in this age of really amazing cordless tools!! Stuff I dreamed about just 10 yrs ago are here now! Amazing
Just put in 2000 roof baton screws with this. Perfect. I've got the last one they did too and every Makita one made for the last 10 years or so. Triple smokes em all.
I own one with two 6mah batteries and this thing is a beast. I even have half inch adaptor where are you's bigger sockets for heavier jobs and it works just perfectly fine
Great video as usual. I watch alot of tool reviews and I have to say in my opinion there's not another tool review channel out there that's on your level you are the best by far I hope everything is good on your end are you gonna start doing videos again if you don't mind me asking cause we need some more Real Tool Reviews have a blessed day sir
Excellent video. You really put it through its paces. I'm already invested in another platform but I just picked one of these up because the deal was too good to pass up and my current impact driver is not brushless, so this should be a nice upgrade. Thanks for the video.
I was team Hitachi back in the dayz of their cassette style 18v....but since the batteries started to die ....i jumped ship over too team Milwaukee....but their impact driver still sound better then all the others (Japanese engineering).... that ip56 is such a great feature....Milwaukee battery couldn't even stand alittle bit of moisture let alone water near it....great sexy little impact driver hitachi got here....great review!!
thechuchy66 es rapido para instalacion de tornillos en maderas para carpintero es bueno pero para usarlo en autos removiendo ciertos tornillos pequenos es una basura no tiene torque prefiero el milwaukee ke es mas fuerte!
I really want to buy this for my best friend. He's helped me with everything and literally works 10 hour days as a carpenter and then comes to my house to work for free. I just wish I could afford it right now. He needs a new impact driver so bad. He goes through those cheap Dewalt ones very often. Any ideas if there is a cheaper place to get this tool? Thanks and great videos as always.
So not 18650 cells, interesting. Maybe they used mobile, flat lipo cells from phones. Enjoyed seeing the inside, thanks for removing the cover and showing that. Looks like the best compact impact driver I've seen so far. Good video.
I am assuming it is the same design as the Metabo LiHD batteries.......Hitachi bought Metabo earlier this year, and I assume part of the reason for that was to incorporate the higher-end technologies into the Hitachi lineup to improve overall quality. The compact LiHD 3.1ah battery is almost identical in size.
I've never liked Hitachi power tools but that one clicks all of the right boxes, and I love the case. It sure would have been nice if you would have put that on the Skidmore.
That would have been my opinion too, but lately Hitachi seems to be upping their game. I never liked Ryobi tools either, but again, they seem to be upping their game. In any case, once you buy into a system, you're more-or-less stuck with them because of the batteries.
FishFind3000 each battery has two values to consider while designing a battery pack: the capacity in mAh and the maximum discharge rate in C or A Usually big capacity batteries don't have a very high discharge courrent, so it's better to use two (or more) smaller batteries in parallel, so you get double the capacity and double the courrent
There is a slim 3ah battery from Dewalt that is being tested in China. I don’t know if it will be sold here though. The bottom of it looks like their new 6ah battery.
Possibly, but the main point of failure will be the 1/4" hex to 1/2" adapter....I have snapped many of them in testing with all of these high-powered impact drivers. They shear right off....$5 wasted each time.
@@l00nybin sir issac newton. the laws of kinetic energy and centrifugal force. there is less travel space between the third hammer and the third anvil which also means there is less kinetic energy built up when it strikes the anvil making for a weaker hit.
@@ElectronicsForFun Unless you have some secret knowledge of how the Hitachi and the competitors' drivers are made, I think you are making some assumptions about their design that you don't have facts for. How many millimeters does the hammer travel in the 2-hammer drivers? How many millimeters in the 3-hammer? What is the spring tension and strength of the springs in the 2-hammer vs. 3-hammer drivers? What is the mass of the hammers in the 2-hammer vs. 3-hammer. For all your talk about kinetic energy and whatnot, you fail to mention momentum, which could play as much or more of a role in the function of the impact driver. Example: my friend shoots light competition arrows and has a longer draw length. Just by his draw length being 3" longer than mine, his arrows have more potential energy stored in the limbs and thus exit the bow at a much higher velocity than my arrows with more kinetic energy. However, my much heavier arrow moving considerably slower due to my short draw length and increased mass of the arrow penetrates the same target deeper than his, and knocks the target back farther due to having more momentum. Which arrow is the 3-hammer and which is the 2-hammer? You might be right, or you might be wrong. But, again, unless you have secret knowledge about these variables, you don't have the information needed to make the claim you do.
@@l00nybin "Unless you have some secret knowledge of how the Hitachi and the competitors' drivers are made, I think you are making some assumptions about their design that you don't have facts for." l have seen their designs. it's not like they are hiding it, it's public record. and the design doesn't make sense to me. "How many millimeters does the hammer travel in the 2-hammer drivers?" it depends on the driver, and l don't know that info off the top of my head for each driver. "How many millimeters in the 3-hammer?" it doesn't really matter unless you're trying to get a dead on balls accurate reading of the torque differential, all l am pointing out is that it's there so the most important thing is that it's either less than a dual hammer or it's the same with smaller hammers. either way you still have less torque. "What is the spring tension and strength of the springs in the 2-hammer vs. 3-hammer drivers?" l would assume it's the same since a larger spring would require a more power hungry motor to drive it fast enough which means you're burning more electricity just to get as hard a hit as a dual hammer. you would kill efficiency with a stiffer spring. "What is the mass of the hammers in the 2-hammer vs. 3-hammer." it would have to be more in the triple hammer to make up for the shorter gap but then you're just creating more weight for the same hit. so at that point it's inefficient on power and weight. "For all your talk about kinetic energy and whatnot, you fail to mention momentum," kinetic energy is created from momentum. the triple hammer would have to have more speed to be at the same level as a traditional double hammer in terms of momentum, and would have to have a stiffer spring because eventually it wouldn't hold up to the speed needed to create the additional momentum, so then you come back to power inefficiency. "Example: my friend shoots light competition arrows and has a longer draw length. Just by his draw length being 3" longer than mine, his arrows have more potential energy stored in the limbs and thus exit the bow at a much higher velocity than my arrows with more kinetic energy." "Example: my friend shoots light competition arrows and has a longer draw length. Just by his draw length being 3" longer than mine, his arrows have more potential energy stored in the limbs and thus exit the bow at a much higher velocity than my arrows with more kinetic energy. However, my much heavier arrow moving considerably slower due to my short draw length and increased mass of the arrow penetrates the same target deeper than his, and knocks the target back farther due to having more momentum." if anything this comparison proves my point. the heavier arrow has more momentum just like the hammers in a double hammer impact would have more momentum than a triple hammer.
Once again, excellent video. 95% of all my tools are Bosch but this video is making me interested in the Hitachi. I looked at CPOutlets and it lists for $399. That does seem a bit steep comparatively and I have always heard less than stellar compliments about their customer service and warranty issues. Also, does Hitachi have service centers? I know that the place where I have bought most of my tools, Mann Tools, in Columbia, SC stopped carrying them and stopped servicing them about two years ago. Lastly, is this a new battery platform for Hitachi and if so, are we to expect more tools to come out soon? Great video, keep it up.
Thanks! Yes, Hitachi is planning a major push into the pro market.....they bought Metabo last year (which is where they got the new smaller high-capacity batteries from) & just announced 3 new brushless nailers, SDS Rotary hammers, & supposedly will be coming out with many new tools throughout 2017. I do not know about the service center question.....I know Lowes is the major "box store" retailer for them (like Home Depot is exclusive for Ridgid, Makita, & Milwaukee). I would assume warranty claims could be handled through the point of sale and/or a mail-in service like Milwaukee. I will see if I can find out. Also, yeah the price on this is up there --- but it is the new "top dog" in the impact driver segment.....I would assume as other manufacturers catch up, the price will level out.
One thing about the compact pack. It may contain same amount of energy than a "full size" pack with 10 cells. For some devices that doesn't matter but large drills etc. it may very well matter. Given cells from same era lower capacity cells can handle more current. That said I don't think small impact drivers use that much current that it matters and so the lighter weight is beneficial. A large drill drilling large holes or driving large screws, for a circular saw etc. it's a different matter. The larger less dense battery will outperform the compact one as it's much more high current capable and so voltage sags a lot less.
Just bought the 10 inch hitachi miter saw today. It's the 120 dollar one I got at lowes. Very nice saw for the price. You should do a review on it if possible. I have the newest Milwaukee impact driver and I think I could of done better. It has been reliable but the finish is crap and looks like ive used for years already. Motor assembly seems loose too inside ??!!! Time will tell
James Avery Hitachi makes some of the best miter saws on the market. I have the same one for 120 bucks, I personally like it better than my 250 dollar dewalt.
I've been using DeWalt hammer drills, impact drivers, impact wrenches, saws, lights, etc. for 14 years and never had one single issue with a tool, only battery replacement. I''m sure not paying $400 for a better warranty.
It's your money and none of my business what you do with it! No doubt it is a fine tool and I would love to have one, I personally can't justify the price. Hope you enjoy it.
I suck at keeping up with the warranty stuff. Ridgid has a seemingly good warranty also, but too many caveats (who saves receipts in this digital day and age... especially when the store the tools are sold in has all the receipts stored digitally and I actually went ahead and registered them all) to deal with when working industrially... type of tool use way beyond that cute homeowner use of tools. I still have all of my Hitachi tools and I find them to be tougher than me... I'd never have survived a fifteen foot drop onto concrete. My Hitachi's have. That being that, I do not rely on warranties or the honesty of implementation of warranties. I prefer a tool that just effin works on and on and on and on without needing a warranty. For me, that is Hitachi.
I wouldn't say this tools features are entirely unique. makita's new subcompact 18v impact driver has an auto drive mode that starts with a low rpm then accelerates when impacting begins, giving you a lot of control when the screw starts feeding in. Milwaukee's One Key impact drivers can also be programmed to do something similar to both of these tools with their adjustable drive modes.
@pcpaulius he's a shitstick with too much time on his hands that tears open tools and dissasembles them on camera while sharing information and guessing why things inside the tool are as they are. He likely knows more than any of us how to spot quality manufacturing, pretty important in a review adding AvE's review to this would be good well-rounded info on this tool
Do they sell that toolbox alone? I can use it for another impact driver. Why is it that impact always die after after you put in a screw. Never during. For me anyway. Also, can yo do a video on the differences between impacts and drills. To me they're the same. Both of them can do the same thing.
john M li ion puts out the same voltage from the full charge till its dead that's one of the advantages of li ion and drills are for drilling holes and impacts are for screwing things together impact helps drive the screw in faster
An impact driver strikes in a rotational fashion as opposed to the continuous rotational torque of a drill. Pros and cons to both. The impact can be much lighter to produce the same effective torque, but is also louder. You also don't get the same counterrotation with an impact like you do with a standard drill--so no need for a side handle and it is much less tiring to the arm (the resetting of the impact hammer essentially absorbs that counter-torque). But a normal drill can accept most any bit/driver that will fit inside its chuck, whereas you need specialty bits to snap into an impact driver. One final note: impact drivers are much less likely to strip out screw heads, especially philips, as its pulse-like action lets the bit 'reset' in the screw head multiple times per second. Over time, I find myself reaching for the impact more and more often. Here's a nice article on drills vs impacts vs hammerdrills: www.thewoodwhisperer.com/articles/drills-vs-hammer-drills-vs-impact-drivers/
I'm not counter hammer drills, I know that's mostly for concrete and if you're and electrician wiring up the house or a plumber piping the house. That I know, you can drill the holes in the studs, but it would be easier and faster with a hammer drill. You can use impact bits in drills. And vice a versa, if the drill bits are hex. You can drive screws with a drill. Impacts are variable speed like drills are. The article you showed is 7 years old. Drills and drivers came a long way in that time.
The directional switch is obnoxiously long. The natural position where my hand rests causes me to accidentally engage the switch. I've played with it quite a bit at Lowe's and I just can't see any real benefit other than the IP56 rating.
I wish I was buying tools when Lowe's were clearing out anything leftover with the Hitachi branding when they were making the switch. They were going for as much as %80 off.
Lowe’s clearances out tools all of the time….. it’s a constant rotation. So anything you see, just wait a while and they’ll mark it down to replace with the next best thing.
@@RealToolReviews yeah no, not the same thing. This wasn't models that went away this was they had to get all the Hitachi branded stuff gone because it wasn't the brand anymore.. I missed it by just weeks I wasn't really looking. I did get there 16 in long tote bag that's currently regular sale price of 30 I got their old packaging older design last year they were selling those for like six bucks. It's a shame I didn't get more of those though.
Buy a new MetaboHPT 18V impact screwdriver, is it normal that in its first uses with large screws a little burning smell comes out ??? Thanks if someone answers.
My dad and I are truck mechanics. i bought him a hitachi drill and driver set for christmas 5 years ago. Since then, the WH18DGL Impact Driver that came in the kit has become our most used tool. Brushes are still in decent shape, all it needs is a fresh trigger. We now only use hitachi cordless tools. Not to mention the batteries are dirt cheap.
I just ordered this through your affiliate link. Thanks for taking the time to draw attention and showcase this amazing new tool. I've been using the Ridgid Stealth Force for almost a year now and thought it was the best performance option until I saw this today. Price is a little higher than I'd like to see, but I can see why with all their new upgrades. I've been saying it would take a special tool for me to venture out of the Ridgid 18V lineup, with the way they've been crushing it since GenX5, but this tool is special.
Best impact driver period. I have this tool and it's a masterpiece of engineering!
greenskiis check out makita' stop of the line or the Milwaukee surge, they're pretty hard to beat
Scarry Polpetta They're both great (more so the Makita than the Surge IMHO) but this is the best overall impact. Its third anvil/increased speed/reduced vibration and IP56 rating put it over the top of Makita, Milwaukee, and DeWalt's best offerings. You really can't go wrong with any of them, though.
greenskiis yes, i'm relly interested in that ip rating, since I often have to work on boats or next to water
this is a great impact, but I wouldn't switch to hitachi just for this model, maybe makita or milwaukee don't have such a great machine, but they have a huge lineup with great products for each application
Scarry Polpetta Good points; I've heard that Hitachi will be releasing more of their higher-end products stateside soon. Here's hoping as their best products are easily high-tier like the Big 3. (their Japanese selections are *huge*)
greenskiis If they're going to make a big powerful hammer drill, a small compact drill, an impact wrench and a grinder that are at least comparable to the ones from makita or milwaukee, maybe IP 56 i'm sold on hitachi
The thoroughness and attention to detail that you offer in your reviews wins you another sub. Thanks!
Ive had this tool for about a year, very impressive. The ip56 rating is nice when working in snow or very dirty conditions (which for me is often). Smooth and precise but also very powerful. I normally go a week between charges on the small batteries. Best impact ive owned. Makita is a close second
Absolutely fantastic review. Great filming and editing as well as presenting. Class leading tool reviewer on RUclips. Thanks for the time and effort you put into this work.
You and OzToolTalk are the best two power tool channels on RUclips worldwide.
Awesome review. I appreciate the level of detail and the dedication to test the run time. I already have the Hitachi 18V brush less drill and driver (DS18DBL) and I think this impact driver is going to be a perfect addition to my collection.
Wow Hitachi is really stepping up their game! Triple hammer, IP56, nice LED features, ultra compact batteries: looks like they are going for the higher end market. I reviewed their cordless multitool and was quite impressed with it as well. I do wish they would put their battery gauge on the battery rather than the tool though. Great review by the way, totally comprehensive!
You should apply to work for Hikoki with amazing ideas like that, I'm sure they never would have thought of that, lol.
Miss this channel...wish you’d come on back :(
Thank you Mr. For making the best impact drill review. I almost never subscribe to any channel but i will now. I flip houses myself and own many sets of drills from the top brands and I'm really impressed with hitachi.
This review was so great, I went to Lowe's and bought the complete set. Thank you.
Lowes has the Metabo HPT 18v Hammer drill and Triple hammer impact driver with 2 batteries, charger, and bag for $129 on BF! Totally picking this up just for the Triple hammer alone👌
This is what a proper review of an impact driver should be like. Excellent work, thanks you!
I have many impact drivers including the latest Milwaukee 2853. Still the first Impact I pick up is the Hitachi WH18DBDL2.
This guys videos are such high quality and so well done how does he not have more subs and views?
Thanks! I appreciate it :)
I have the old model I've had for probably 7 years and love going up to long lag bolts used to secure equipment to shipping skids and remove them when co-workers Makita and DeWalt failed my batteries are getting old and am looking into this model. I have been very happy with Hitachi tools. another bonus is the lack of them on job sites and other workers mistaking batteries as there's
You really put a lot of effort into your tests. Thanks :-)
You'd make a great salesman. Your reviews make me want to buy everything you review :))
my favorite brands of all time . Hitachi
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Underappreciated brand. Almost all of my small engine equipment (string trimmer, leaf blower, hedge trimmer) are Hitachi or Tanaka (their other brand) and are fantastic. Stihl or Echo quality for less. I think their power tools are great too. They just don't have as large a variety of tools as some other brands so that might be the only downside for some people deciding what system to buy into.
WOW!!
I'm really impressed with how Hitachi is pushing innovation...
Incredible..
We are so lucky to be living in this age of really amazing cordless tools!!
Stuff I dreamed about just 10 yrs ago are here now!
Amazing
Just put in 2000 roof baton screws with this. Perfect. I've got the last one they did too and every Makita one made for the last 10 years or so. Triple smokes em all.
Hitachi put some good engineering in this tool! Thanks for the review!
I own one with two 6mah batteries and this thing is a beast. I even have half inch adaptor where are you's bigger sockets for heavier jobs and it works just perfectly fine
Very compact and very powerful. This machine ticks all the boxes. Great review.
Great video as usual. I watch alot of tool reviews and I have to say in my opinion there's not another tool review channel out there that's on your level you are the best by far I hope everything is good on your end are you gonna start doing videos again if you don't mind me asking cause we need some more Real Tool Reviews have a blessed day sir
Thank you, and yes, I am posting new vids again in the near future. Stay tuned 📺
I’ve got the Multivolt version, actually I have two of them. Things are monsters!
Excellent video. You really put it through its paces. I'm already invested in another platform but I just picked one of these up because the deal was too good to pass up and my current impact driver is not brushless, so this should be a nice upgrade. Thanks for the video.
Nice inventiveness by hitachi. I'm impressed
I was team Hitachi back in the dayz of their cassette style 18v....but since the batteries started to die ....i jumped ship over too team Milwaukee....but their impact driver still sound better then all the others (Japanese engineering).... that ip56 is such a great feature....Milwaukee battery couldn't even stand alittle bit of moisture let alone water near it....great sexy little impact driver hitachi got here....great review!!
Looks great this impact driver! Great review!
que opinas de este juguetito, walter?
Yoda?
thechuchy66 es rapido para instalacion de tornillos en maderas para carpintero es bueno pero para usarlo en autos removiendo ciertos tornillos pequenos es una basura no tiene torque prefiero el milwaukee ke es mas fuerte!
insane impact driver
is it reliebale like makita ?
and what is the most powerful impact driver ?
I have a hitachi mitre saw that has been ticking along just nicely. The new Metabo hpt 🇯🇵/🇩🇪 should be good tools. I love 🇯🇵 made anything.
Japanese products 👍 I own too many to list, but not enough to satisfy me.
I really want to buy this for my best friend. He's helped me with everything and literally works 10 hour days as a carpenter and then comes to my house to work for free. I just wish I could afford it right now. He needs a new impact driver so bad. He goes through those cheap Dewalt ones very often. Any ideas if there is a cheaper place to get this tool? Thanks and great videos as always.
So not 18650 cells, interesting. Maybe they used mobile, flat lipo cells from phones. Enjoyed seeing the inside, thanks for removing the cover and showing that. Looks like the best compact impact driver I've seen so far. Good video.
I am assuming it is the same design as the Metabo LiHD batteries.......Hitachi bought Metabo earlier this year, and I assume part of the reason for that was to incorporate the higher-end technologies into the Hitachi lineup to improve overall quality. The compact LiHD 3.1ah battery is almost identical in size.
thats exactly what happened.
Hey! That's a Kreg rip fence behind you! Love mine!
Just found the channel. I am loyal to Dewalt and Milwaukee because of batteries. How many different battery chargers and batteries do you want?
Milwaukee also has a high output compact 3 amp hour battery also
great job with the reviews. keep it up. wish the world had more people like you. sadly people are not honest
how do you like it compared to the new makita
I've never liked Hitachi power tools but that one clicks all of the right boxes, and I love the case. It sure would have been nice if you would have put that on the Skidmore.
That would have been my opinion too, but lately Hitachi seems to be upping their game. I never liked Ryobi tools either, but again, they seem to be upping their game. In any case, once you buy into a system, you're more-or-less stuck with them because of the batteries.
FishFind3000 I've owned Hitachi for years. Never had an issue with any of their tools.
This and along with Hitachi's latest DV18DBL2 18V Lithium Ion Brushless Hammer Drill are now top DAWGS. End of story.
I hope they start a trend with the compact high capacity batteries, i'd love to slim my dewalt set down
FishFind3000 each battery has two values to consider while designing a battery pack: the capacity in mAh and the maximum discharge rate in C or A
Usually big capacity batteries don't have a very high discharge courrent, so it's better to use two (or more) smaller batteries in parallel, so you get double the capacity and double the courrent
There is a slim 3ah battery from Dewalt that is being tested in China. I don’t know if it will be sold here though. The bottom of it looks like their new 6ah battery.
Great review, I really enjoy how in depth you go. think it would pull some caliper bolts off? I saw the specs saying 12k in/lbs.
Possibly, but the main point of failure will be the 1/4" hex to 1/2" adapter....I have snapped many of them in testing with all of these high-powered impact drivers. They shear right off....$5 wasted each time.
would you do a VS video? hitachi- dewalt - Milwaukee- makita???
the hitachi would lose because the triple hammer is snake oil.
@@ElectronicsForFun
And your basis for your claim is...?
@@l00nybin sir issac newton. the laws of kinetic energy and centrifugal force. there is less travel space between the third hammer and the third anvil which also means there is less kinetic energy built up when it strikes the anvil making for a weaker hit.
@@ElectronicsForFun
Unless you have some secret knowledge of how the Hitachi and the competitors' drivers are made, I think you are making some assumptions about their design that you don't have facts for. How many millimeters does the hammer travel in the 2-hammer drivers? How many millimeters in the 3-hammer? What is the spring tension and strength of the springs in the 2-hammer vs. 3-hammer drivers? What is the mass of the hammers in the 2-hammer vs. 3-hammer. For all your talk about kinetic energy and whatnot, you fail to mention momentum, which could play as much or more of a role in the function of the impact driver.
Example: my friend shoots light competition arrows and has a longer draw length. Just by his draw length being 3" longer than mine, his arrows have more potential energy stored in the limbs and thus exit the bow at a much higher velocity than my arrows with more kinetic energy. However, my much heavier arrow moving considerably slower due to my short draw length and increased mass of the arrow penetrates the same target deeper than his, and knocks the target back farther due to having more momentum.
Which arrow is the 3-hammer and which is the 2-hammer?
You might be right, or you might be wrong. But, again, unless you have secret knowledge about these variables, you don't have the information needed to make the claim you do.
@@l00nybin "Unless you have some secret knowledge of how the Hitachi and the competitors' drivers are made, I think you are making some assumptions about their design that you don't have facts for." l have seen their designs. it's not like they are hiding it, it's public record. and the design doesn't make sense to me.
"How many millimeters does the hammer travel in the 2-hammer drivers?" it depends on the driver, and l don't know that info off the top of my head for each driver.
"How many millimeters in the 3-hammer?" it doesn't really matter unless you're trying to get a dead on balls accurate reading of the torque differential, all l am pointing out is that it's there so the most important thing is that it's either less than a dual hammer or it's the same with smaller hammers. either way you still have less torque.
"What is the spring tension and strength of the springs in the 2-hammer vs. 3-hammer drivers?" l would assume it's the same since a larger spring would require a more power hungry motor to drive it fast enough which means you're burning more electricity just to get as hard a hit as a dual hammer. you would kill efficiency with a stiffer spring.
"What is the mass of the hammers in the 2-hammer vs. 3-hammer." it would have to be more in the triple hammer to make up for the shorter gap but then you're just creating more weight for the same hit. so at that point it's inefficient on power and weight.
"For all your talk about kinetic energy and whatnot, you fail to mention momentum," kinetic energy is created from momentum. the triple hammer would have to have more speed to be at the same level as a traditional double hammer in terms of momentum, and would have to have a stiffer spring because eventually it wouldn't hold up to the speed needed to create the additional momentum, so then you come back to power inefficiency.
"Example: my friend shoots light competition arrows and has a longer draw length. Just by his draw length being 3" longer than mine, his arrows have more potential energy stored in the limbs and thus exit the bow at a much higher velocity than my arrows with more kinetic energy."
"Example: my friend shoots light competition arrows and has a longer draw length. Just by his draw length being 3" longer than mine, his arrows have more potential energy stored in the limbs and thus exit the bow at a much higher velocity than my arrows with more kinetic energy. However, my much heavier arrow moving considerably slower due to my short draw length and increased mass of the arrow penetrates the same target deeper than his, and knocks the target back farther due to having more momentum." if anything this comparison proves my point. the heavier arrow has more momentum just like the hammers in a double hammer impact would have more momentum than a triple hammer.
Once again, excellent video. 95% of all my tools are Bosch but this video is making me interested in the Hitachi. I looked at CPOutlets and it lists for $399. That does seem a bit steep comparatively and I have always heard less than stellar compliments about their customer service and warranty issues.
Also, does Hitachi have service centers? I know that the place where I have bought most of my tools, Mann Tools, in Columbia, SC stopped carrying them and stopped servicing them about two years ago.
Lastly, is this a new battery platform for Hitachi and if so, are we to expect more tools to come out soon?
Great video, keep it up.
Thanks! Yes, Hitachi is planning a major push into the pro market.....they bought Metabo last year (which is where they got the new smaller high-capacity batteries from) & just announced 3 new brushless nailers, SDS Rotary hammers, & supposedly will be coming out with many new tools throughout 2017.
I do not know about the service center question.....I know Lowes is the major "box store" retailer for them (like Home Depot is exclusive for Ridgid, Makita, & Milwaukee). I would assume warranty claims could be handled through the point of sale and/or a mail-in service like Milwaukee. I will see if I can find out.
Also, yeah the price on this is up there --- but it is the new "top dog" in the impact driver segment.....I would assume as other manufacturers catch up, the price will level out.
Would the regular size batteries still fit and vice versa if someone were wanting to add this to their hitachi tools they already have?
Yes, 100% interchangeable.....the new version is just a lot smaller/lightweight.
Love it never would of thought about hitachi if it wasn’t for this great channel would you recommend this product .
100% yes. The Hitachi Triple Hammer Impact Driver is an excellent tool!
wonder wat the time difference would be vs the makita. to screw that many screws
what an awesome impact. do you think you will review the new metabo hammer drill in there near future?
One thing about the compact pack. It may contain same amount of energy than a "full size" pack with 10 cells. For some devices that doesn't matter but large drills etc. it may very well matter. Given cells from same era lower capacity cells can handle more current. That said I don't think small impact drivers use that much current that it matters and so the lighter weight is beneficial. A large drill drilling large holes or driving large screws, for a circular saw etc. it's a different matter. The larger less dense battery will outperform the compact one as it's much more high current capable and so voltage sags a lot less.
Hi, absolutely love your reviews very thorough and professional keep up the good work.
I'm still waiting for the Milwaukee gen 3 review
Just bought the 10 inch hitachi miter saw today. It's the 120 dollar one I got at lowes. Very nice saw for the price. You should do a review on it if possible. I have the newest Milwaukee impact driver and I think I could of done better. It has been reliable but the finish is crap and looks like ive used for years already. Motor assembly seems loose too inside ??!!! Time will tell
James Avery Hitachi makes some of the best miter saws on the market. I have the same one for 120 bucks, I personally like it better than my 250 dollar dewalt.
Does this take the multivolt batteries?
Can you still use normal 18v hitachi slide battery's ?
Or do they not fit.
Yes, they fit fine.
I don't know but to me ridgid gen5x impact is the best...the 3 LED lights are very useful and the 3 speeds is a must on impacts..
Ridgid is the best
Excellent review with good articulation. Keep up the good work.
Why does it look so familiar ???? Makita trick or treating ??
Which would you pick out of Hitachi WH18DBDL2(H4) or the Makita DTD170Z
I agree we must appreciate all this work. Thank u bro
Wow! $400 for an impact driver is a lot compared to the rest of the market.
William Garrett the warranty is better
I've been using DeWalt hammer drills, impact drivers, impact wrenches, saws, lights, etc. for 14 years and never had one single issue with a tool, only battery replacement. I''m sure not paying $400 for a better warranty.
And I still have every single one I bought and use them regularly.
William Garrett I'm saying the 400 is worth it lol
It's your money and none of my business what you do with it! No doubt it is a fine tool and I would love to have one, I personally can't justify the price. Hope you enjoy it.
I suck at keeping up with the warranty stuff. Ridgid has a seemingly good warranty also, but too many caveats (who saves receipts in this digital day and age... especially when the store the tools are sold in has all the receipts stored digitally and I actually went ahead and registered them all) to deal with when working industrially... type of tool use way beyond that cute homeowner use of tools. I still have all of my Hitachi tools and I find them to be tougher than me... I'd never have survived a fifteen foot drop onto concrete. My Hitachi's have. That being that, I do not rely on warranties or the honesty of implementation of warranties. I prefer a tool that just effin works on and on and on and on without needing a warranty. For me, that is Hitachi.
I wouldn't say this tools features are entirely unique. makita's new subcompact 18v impact driver has an auto drive mode that starts with a low rpm then accelerates when impacting begins, giving you a lot of control when the screw starts feeding in. Milwaukee's One Key impact drivers can also be programmed to do something similar to both of these tools with their adjustable drive modes.
Yukikazehalo The Makita feature is junk. It routinely strips the screw after drilling.
Hitachi works perfectly
Hey man. really triple hammer is this tool.
pls concelt me good advise.
i like to know how much more time you with the led off
Send it to AvE for the Final Review! If it can pass the pixie test then it might be worth the peso's!~
haha yes sir. Something tells me it won't be pretty
What is the "pixie test" ?
@pcpaulius he's a shitstick with too much time on his hands that tears open tools and dissasembles them on camera while sharing information and guessing why things inside the tool are as they are. He likely knows more than any of us how to spot quality manufacturing, pretty important in a review adding AvE's review to this would be good well-rounded info on this tool
Buy your own and send it to that unfunny hack.
Do they sell that toolbox alone? I can use it for another impact driver.
Why is it that impact always die after after you put in a screw. Never during. For me anyway.
Also, can yo do a video on the differences between impacts and drills. To me they're the same. Both of them can do the same thing.
john M agreed
john M li ion puts out the same voltage from the full charge till its dead that's one of the advantages of li ion and drills are for drilling holes and impacts are for screwing things together impact helps drive the screw in faster
An impact driver strikes in a rotational fashion as opposed to the continuous rotational torque of a drill. Pros and cons to both. The impact can be much lighter to produce the same effective torque, but is also louder. You also don't get the same counterrotation with an impact like you do with a standard drill--so no need for a side handle and it is much less tiring to the arm (the resetting of the impact hammer essentially absorbs that counter-torque). But a normal drill can accept most any bit/driver that will fit inside its chuck, whereas you need specialty bits to snap into an impact driver. One final note: impact drivers are much less likely to strip out screw heads, especially philips, as its pulse-like action lets the bit 'reset' in the screw head multiple times per second. Over time, I find myself reaching for the impact more and more often. Here's a nice article on drills vs impacts vs hammerdrills: www.thewoodwhisperer.com/articles/drills-vs-hammer-drills-vs-impact-drivers/
I'm not counter hammer drills, I know that's mostly for concrete and if you're and electrician wiring up the house or a plumber piping the house. That I know, you can drill the holes in the studs, but it would be easier and faster with a hammer drill.
You can use impact bits in drills. And vice a versa, if the drill bits are hex.
You can drive screws with a drill.
Impacts are variable speed like drills are.
The article you showed is 7 years old. Drills and drivers came a long way in that time.
Is Japan made ? O china
I wish that Milwaukee would add some storage to their cases
Instead of adding storage to their machine boxes, they are selling packout boxes to put your machines in. Smart move for their own profit.
will the standard 18v slide lock lithium batteries that came with my old driver run this one?
shobboxx Yup, all Hitachi slide batteries are interchangeable
The directional switch is obnoxiously long. The natural position where my hand rests causes me to accidentally engage the switch. I've played with it quite a bit at Lowe's and I just can't see any real benefit other than the IP56 rating.
how is it vs makita dtd 170 ?
and is the 3amp battery last like 4-5 amp in competitors betteries ?
Another great objective review, much appreciated. Joe.
Nice case.
What do you mean by "beats per minute?"
It means how many hits the hammers hit to turn whatever you are trying to drive
I wish I was buying tools when Lowe's were clearing out anything leftover with the Hitachi branding when they were making the switch. They were going for as much as %80 off.
Lowe’s clearances out tools all of the time….. it’s a constant rotation. So anything you see, just wait a while and they’ll mark it down to replace with the next best thing.
@@RealToolReviews yeah no, not the same thing. This wasn't models that went away this was they had to get all the Hitachi branded stuff gone because it wasn't the brand anymore.. I missed it by just weeks I wasn't really looking. I did get there 16 in long tote bag that's currently regular sale price of 30 I got their old packaging older design last year they were selling those for like six bucks. It's a shame I didn't get more of those though.
Buy a new MetaboHPT 18V impact screwdriver, is it normal that in its first uses with large screws a little burning smell comes out ??? Thanks if someone answers.
Yes
Great vid! Love Hitachi!
Phenomenal Review. Just...?? i guess, Great Journalism!! Awesome!
15:17 - were you ever tempted to just say "screw it"?
Excellent video and information, just order one!!!!!
I wish i had the case.....i have the 2 compact 3.0amp lithium 🔋's and the charger but Lowes did not offer the COOL case. 😒
I'll never give up my milwaukee 2853-20
looks more compact than the makita you recently reviewed.
angmakisig i doubt that
BLONDIE LOCKS you're right
a very good review and very much appreciated.
but now I'm tempted to go and buy myself one..... lol
I think you're going to drive up Hitachi sales.....
I'm sold...lol
why dont they do it in 20 volt?
18v & 20v are the same thing....20v is just a marketing term.
Cause They do it in 36 v!
Great Video. Thanks and keep up the good work.
What a review! THANKS MAN!
Hello friend. Saludes desde Colombia. Please subtitles in Spanish for Latins. Thanks
Excellent review!
I love my hitachi but my only complain is the batteries dying too soon..
Great vid, awesome tool.
Metabo belongs to Hitachi. This two companies tools will became better every day.
Really nice video, great info, thank's!
great runtime
Milwaukee 2853 had 4300 ipm
Has
real review should include real torque test, for instance larger / deepest screw possible to install, or unscrew
always great review sir tnx a lot
9/16 Bit Triple Hammer work progress
Great video. Thanks.