TBM 850 - Cost to Own
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- What does it actually cost to own and operate a TBM 850. In this short video we break down the costs and let you know exactly what your get for your money. And how much of your money it will take.
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Costs of airplane ownership vary widely from owner to owner. This video takes an average of the various expenses from existing owners and boils them down to simple to digest numbers. Your ownership experiences will be unique. 
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N851tb has its own channel.
Good eye! Though I would say Steveo has his own channel and N851TB plays a supporting role 😀
@@CompleteWalkaround I thought it was a cool shoutout to Steveo honestly. Who would have thought that we would have RUclips Aviation memes but here we are.
Hahaha sharp eyes.
Direct, actionable, not needlessly protracted.
Awesome video.
I love imagining I can afford and fly these planes you put up in these videos. Keep it up!
Thanks. Very low cost plane up next. Thanks for watching
Other than liking aviation a lot, and at one point in my life becoming extremely close to obtaining my pilot certificate. I have no good dang idea why I watched this video. But it was interesting, informative, succinct, and entertaining. Thank you.
You are welcome. Thanks for watching
The last part is the important point. You don’t pay people 6+ figures a year to sit in airports.
Not until they found out you can sit them in front of the computers.
I really appreciate the concise and clear breakdown. Keep doing what you're doing
I only know 3 people/companies that own TBM's but they all lease it and it seems that is quite common. For those I know, it allows them to own it, they couldn't if they outright bought it in a loan. The operating costs don't seem to be the problem, it's the acquisition.
Specifically Steveo’s TBM 😀
That was a riot good job thank you very much
These videos are great! I think I've watched every one over two days now. You should do one on a Cessna Cardinal or Skymaster!
life can be way more fun when money is not an issue
Great video - would love to see same video on: PC12, KA 250, Phenom 100 & 300.
I think it’s hard to justify a new TBM when you can get a Phenom 100 for approximately the same price and monthly opex.
Is the Cirrus Vision Jet the next step up? Not sure how much more capable it is than the TBM, both have max cruise speed around 300 knots. New TBM 940 about $4.5m. Phenom is cheaper and has higher cruise speed (max ceiling 41k), but shorter range and probably no slower for typical shorter flights.
@@markburton5170 The Vision would be a step down for most users in my opinion. It is a little bit slower than the TBM, has much less space, a lower MTOW (and therefore can't carry as much) and is probably more expensive to run. I'd see it as a supercar of the skies, while the TBM is more of a pickup truck or van, not slower though.
Now! Please to a video on the DA42 and DA62 (Bonus if you run the DA50 as well, but hey!) Love the content, keep it up!
I really enjoyed your dry sense of humor
Loving your videos!! Are you going to do one for the Pilatus PC-12? I’d love to see it. Thank you!! Keep up the great work.
Nicely done. At the higher utilizations that is cost effective. You don't have crew so this is owner operated, which I am qualified... minus winning the lottery ticket I need OR start a successful business needing extensive travel to write this bad boy off, does not look like a TBM850 is in my future.... hey may be a used TBM700 partnership... I guess I will be stuck with my RV-7. Ha ha.
good content, more please
I know an individual who flies a tbm 940. Beautiful aircraft
i love u man just on point facts facts facts no unnecessary blabla
Thanks!
i caught steve's tailnumber right away, thought it was great!
Thank you for the video. Can you do a video of the Pilatus PC12. Thanks.
Any chance of doing an update using a TBM 960? Thanks for these videos. They are great.
great content! can you do the pilatus pc-12 and the pc-6 porter? thanks!!!
Funny how it is the N851TB of Steveo shown in this video. 🤣
Most famous TBM in the world probably!
Thanks ! And what about a kodiak 100?
Thanks
You rock! Can you do a Premier 1A?
Nice shoutout with that tail number!
Good eye 😉
@@CompleteWalkaround as a Cirrus instructor, I'd love to see a SR20 vs SR22 vs SR22T comparison video. I have lots of clients having trouble deciding which one to get. I can only wish I was rich enough to have that kind of headache lol
Also as a king air 350 pilot, a king air series would be cool too!
Hey! 851TB! The king of all the 850s
If you have to ask, you can't afford it! After this video, we don't have to ask anymore, we're all one step closer ;)
Great video. I see you used Steveo's registration number but his last annual was $95 000. You also didn't mention handling or parking fees that FBOs charge.
Thanks! And thanks for watching.
There are many costs such as parking, handling, subscriptions, medicals etc that are all independent of the plane you're flying. I consider these the costs of being a pilot more than owning a specific airplane. They are all dependant on where you fly. Many people never pay landing fees nor subscriptions.
95,000 is obviously an outlier. Steveo mentioned the plane has been having chronic issues lately. Too bad.
Or the cost of the pilot... (Steve lol)
Did that include the cost of repairing... THE BULLET HOLE?!
@@CompleteWalkaround Handling and parking fees scale up with aircraft size and weight. SETPs like a TBM pay a lot more in fees on the ground than a piston aircraft.
2 Seconds in: "So you want to buy a TBM 850"
No, but I'll watch anyway
Wow the insurance is way cheaper in US so is maintenance. In South America usually the insurance is between 67 up to 82 k and the prices start around 2.8 millions that is including taxes.
Please do the Pilatus PC-12!
I’d love to see a piaggio video
Would love you to do one on the Cessna 208 or Kodiak 🤞
Yup, on the short list.
How about the cost for an aero commander?
Just thinking about the people who genuinely thought they were in the market then after watching this video realised their labourer’s wage won’t cut it
Oof. That smarts
@@lockirocu labourer? 😂
Can you do Beechcraft King Air B200??
Well that solves that
We have a PC-12 but only fly 2-3 back and forth a month. We budget 225k per year but 75k is the pilot retainer.
Hi, I would love to hear more about owning a PC-12. Please message me on Instagram or Facebook if you would like to chat more. Thanks!
Awesome channel! Can you do a Caravan and PC12? King Air 200/250/350 Maybe?
Yes x5. Thanks for watching 🙂
I'll think I'll walk thank you! You need to be a CEO to afford this beastie!
Hey, 851TB. That's Stevo's plane.
Do the Honda jet!!
How and is there new T shirt as souvenir
Me a broke college kid... Yup totally in the market for a TBM
Do a Fairchild merlin
I’m curious.
Where are you getting these numbers?
You’re pretty accurate as far as I can tell.
Owners primarily
After having done an entire semester’s business class on on-demand aviation, the big time savings compared to the airlines has nothing to do with cruise speed, and everything to do with all the time you cut out by not having to deal with the airliner airport terminals and all the security and BS associated with it. You make your own schedule which also saves time, and park right next to the ramp where the plane is parked. Then you walk right through the FBO and get on your bird. Next you fly to an airport that’s probably a lot closer to where you need to go because you have the option to fly to almost any decent sized airport.
With the implantation of on-demand, even one person like a CEO or president of a company can literally save WEEKS of time throughout a year. That’s a lot of time they can be working on new accounts, better quality control, and better customer support with strike teams in the case of a meltdown somewhere. All those things greatly increase revenue and employee retention.
And you don't have to take your shoes off!😄
@@grafhilgenhurst9717 The best part lol
If you buy an airplane without a loan and pilot it yourself do you still need insurance?
I'm the USA technically no. Though many FBOs require you to have it to use their insurance. Good help you if you crash into a Ferrari dealership
Also I would like to put in a video request for PC-12 and King Air 200 and Beech Bonanza A36
Hi, all on the list! Bonanza 35 coming up soon
But, you forgot to talk about the repo, we allways see on TV
Who is the pilot? Shouldn't pilot cost also be included, for a corporation at least?
Where's the fun in that? 🙂
You're the pilot!
How about a DA62?
Diamond with a are tricky. I'm piecing it together. Stay tuned. Thanks for watching
If you have to ask, you can't afford it. But good video, short and to the point, well done.
Shout to Steveo
Boy that’s a lot of money.
statute mile or nautical mile?
Nautical
STEVEO!
Actually I wanted to buy two TBM 850s.
$400k engine overhaul.....you need to be worth $20M or more to play in this league
Why does you always charge maintenance cost per hour if you charge yearly maintenance cost as well. Does not seem realistic to me. Please verify your Methode
Maintenance is a constant and a variable. Repairs occur outside of annual and the more you fly the more they occur. Even if you leave everything to annual to repair, years where you fly a lot may have larger annuals.
Think of the annual price as what you pay in maintenance each year and the hourly maintenance price as the amount you pay beyond the annual for flying more.
It's not a question of 2 seperate bills or anything. Just that owning a plane will have you paying some maintenance in a year and the more you fly the more that is.
This is why I have annual as a fixed cost and maintenance as a variable cost. Hope that helps
No. If it cant go transatlantic to Europe whats the point?
Same as every airplane.. the nose
@@CompleteWalkaround that's anti semitic
On a plane like that maybe you have enough autonomy but would be necessary to fly to fly to northern Canada make escales in Greenland and Iceland reaching Scotland on the Shetland islands
SteveO1Kinevo!
lmao man really put N851TB as the image
if you can take it slow then buy an old cool yacht and live like a king instead for less cash :)
The only person I know who owned one of those for any length of time got nickeled and dimed to death--ended up spending way more than he had been expecting and had to get rid of it. My Cessna was significantly cheaper long-term.
@@ReflectedMiles thats sounds very real 😳 but if you can live on the "yacht" and maybe not the biggest of them all 😉 and save the money on the house/expensive apartment depending on where you live, it can be a good cost effective option. It will give you the option of moving your home around. Lets say a 40 foot yacht, will not cost your more than a boring 50 square meter apartment.
You sound so much like Backcountry Pilot. Could it be?
Negative
Man,,thats $2400 /Week ,,,quite something
$400,000 engine overhaul.
Good lord, no thanks. I'll stick to piston lol
still cehaper than Uber on the per Mile basis
Haha, good point
Answer: more than you have.
Still cheaper than Bugatti Chiron.
TBM 850 in one word, eww. I would buy a 930 instead
I film all my only fans videos on mine. All tax write offs
I haven't considered that cost saving angle
Buy yourself a PC12 and thank me later
I was inclined to do that at one point, mostly for its simple hauling capacity, and I agree it is the better choice so long as that is a common need/application. However, I would need that capacity for so few flights in my application that I could never justify it, sort of like a 15-passenger-size van for a much smaller family, and the TBM is then significantly more efficient (esp. faster per $ spent).