Your Favorite Band Did Not Save Your Life
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- TRIGGER WARNING for some pretty heavy and frank discussions about mental illness and all the dark serious stuff that comes with it.
Here's a playlist of songs inspired by this video: open.spotify.com/playlist/15H...
The song featured at the end of the video is TEETH by St. Terrible, which you can find in the playlist above. Thanks to the band for supplying me with an instrumental mix to use. St. Terrible is one of my favorite bands ever and you should listen to them.
This topic has always been something that really bothered me and I'm finally getting around to why I think this gesture is not healthy, a bit toxic, and kinda needs to be addressed seriously.
I'm a huge fan of bands like Twenty One Pilots, My Chemical Romance, the Used, Motion City Soundtrack, and tons of other artists who explore heavier topics in their lyrics and messaging. However, with them comes a type of fan that tends to go overboard with their adoration of the project. While there's a humanity in the claim that a band "saved someone's life," I think it's misguided. What makes me worried is that it's mostly teenagers with this mentality.
At the end of the day, you are your own hero and the fact that you're here watching this video and reading these words are proof enough. You owe it to yourself to give credit where it's due, and that's not to anyone but yourself. You're awesome.
I'll make less existentially terrifying videos soon I promise, I just needed to talk about this. It's been bugging me for months.
I hope you're doing well. You know what phone numbers to call and what people to talk to if things are in crisis mode right now.
0:00 - Intro
1:07 - You Are the Only One Responsible For Yourself
3:35 - Don't Build Foundations of Stability on Strangers
4:27 - Don't Make It Weird Bro
6:25 - You Deserve All Credit
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Howdy! A few things real quick:
-This video covers a touchy topic. Approach it with caution and heed the trigger warning. It might be smart to finish the video before commenting, as well.
-I know it can come across as dismissive and pandering, but the mental crisis hotline is fantastic. If things in your life are getting heavy, overwhelming, and dark, you should dial 988. You'll be connected to someone whose entire job is to listen to what you have to say and take you seriously. They're volunteers, so they're listening out of compassion and not compensation. Be safe, you're worth protecting.
-The song at the end is called TEETH by St Terrible. I have a link to it in the description. It's amazing. It is one of the most emotionally potent incredible songs I've ever heard.
I hope ur doing well! Be safe, be smart, stay spicy, I will see you next week.
glad you're safe too my dude. welcome back to uploading, I missed your videos, cool to see you back here!! :)
Plz dont call 988 though. It calls the police and/or forces treatment onto you like staying in hospitals or emergency rooms.
@@solstieThey only do that when given an actionable specific plan, plus it’s less than 3% of cases where police are contacted. I hate that they do it but there are ways of getting around it, like calling through an online phone.
@@NateIsLamehow did you make this comment 7 hours and 10 minutes before the video?
@@Goofypersonthatexists Unlisted video scheduled for release 😉
To undermine everything he just said, say: this video saved my life.
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this comment saved my life
@@HitchhikingHatboxThis reply saved my life
@@DarkTyypthis reply to the other reply my life
@@ThingsThings2I was about to end it all but your youtube username thingsthings2 saved my life. thank you.
Actually, my favorite band did save my life. I had been getting slammed all night at bars, it had been a long week, and about 2:23 am I decided to tap out after puking up most of my internal organs behind my Toyota Tacoma in the parking lot. I popped in my copy of the Money Store by Death Grips and started the drive home. Naturally about three songs in and I was deep in the bowels of violent and positively delusional psychosis. I was fading in and out of consciousness, and I guess I must've dozed off until later in the album. I was revived by a bass hit so fat and distorted I literally felt my teeth rattle and my eyes vibrate. I quickly realized I was about to be ploughed by a semi, as I was in the left lane and doing about 95. I yanked the wheel 180 degrees and went spiraling into this lousy deli shop attached to a gas station, narrowly avoiding blowing myself to high hell. Honestly, the owner wasn't really that upset, apparently the business had been going under. So... shout out to Death Grips, I guess.
Dang yeah to a certain degree I’ll give ya a few points for this specific event. Just don’t forget to give credit to your sound system, steering wheel, and driving instructor as well while you’re at it.
looking in the comments of this video i did not expect to see something about death grips literally saving someone's life
yay death grips hah, this is a crazy story!
@@manytinyboxesi like ur pfp ^_^
@@sl3epystarz thank you!!! made it myself so that means a lot :)
I realized this a while ago and I absolutely cannot emphasize how empowering that realization was. It was one of the most important things that clicked with me that helped me break through my depression. This video is really important, thank you for making it.
Share your realization with others and remind them how badass they are for even being here in the first place 🥰
@@NateIsLame I'm happy to tell that it's actually part of my job! It's the best job I've ever had and I cherish it dearly. My job rules, but people that I meet daily rule even more.
Tbh my dumbass never even equated the phrase to self harm or suicide, I just thought of it as a hyperbole for “I really love your music.”
Pete Wentz said something that responded pretty well to someone who hollered this phrase. He said you are the one driving the car that is your life, you might just need help getting some gas and they are happy to help, but it’s all you that saves you. It’s a paraphrase from his saying at the Somerset show this tour.
Posting on an alt for this one, but when I say that Tyler, the Creator "Saved my life" I'm not saying he prevented me from s*icide, but rather he inspired me to completely change who I was, my mannerisms, confidence, and general outlook on people and life. I used to be a very unhealthy and toxic person physically and mentally, but when I first listened to Wolf it became my entire personality. As stupid as it sounds that album is a big reason I'm into making music and doing BMX. His album IGOR helped me perceive others for who they are and that being yourself/themselves is okay. When I say he "Saved my life" I mean he saved me from continuing to be an awful human being and a greasy loser. I at no point will claim that music saved me from s*icide.
The same guy who wrote colossus? /j
Ye same when I say that about a musician I mean it in a different way- like a helped me way :3
I feel like though when people say “Your music saved my life”, they don’t actually realize the impact of what they are saying. So everyone who says this should definitely check this video out, because this lists the reasons pretty well of the negative impact on those words (great job btw, amazing video Nate!)
I think we’ve become to chill with the statement and it really needs to be analyzed. I’m glad you enjoyed it 🥰
I'm glad to see someone finally talk about the whole "your music saved my life" thing. Because only the individual can make the choice to keep going. Music is only a small bit of motivation towards your own existence. You yourself are the only person who can keep yourself going. I know a lot of artists have talked about the distance between artists and the audience and have talked about how heavy that feeling of responsibility towards a random person can be. And I don't think a lot of people realize that. Never discredit all the effort you yourself put in to keep going by saying that a single song or band caused you to make the decision to keep going
Had I watched this video as a teen, I would’ve definetely written something immature and cringe in this comment section.
However watching this as an adult I couldn’t agree more with your arguments. And like you said, yes we can get external help (I.e medication, therapy etc.) but only if WE take the initiative.
It really is ”A little less Your Music Saved My Life, A little more Your Music Helped Making My Low Points More Bearable”
As someone who’s autistic, a musician, and has a special interest in music as a whole. I can understand this sentiment but for me music is apart of me, it’s a interest that is intrinsically tied to myself. Wether that be listening to music, playing an instrument, performing, ect. Music for me has kept me motivated to get myself out of my dark depressive state. My music classes in school were a lot of times the reasons I’d go to school. Despite the relentless bullying I faced. So to me music didn’t necessarily save my life, it’s more that it’s apart of my life and my identity and it gives me the motivation to keep going. I totally agree with the fact only you can save yourself. But I still think it’s important to acknowledge and recognize that music can have a profound impact on someone so they can save themselves. Personally for me instead of saying “Movements music saved my life”. I’ll just say “Movements music helped motivate me to get the help I needed”.
No hate to you Nate, this is just my thoughts and personal experiences.
I think you and I are on the same page! c:
Yeahhhhh boys, consistent upload schedule
This is JUST like when friends will thank me for saving their life or helping them with a situation. Sometimes I do believe I have genuinely given them assistance that they couldn’t have given themselves.
…However, I always tell them *they* did it themselves- because they did. I echo the sentiment you provided in this video because nobody can save someone unwilling to save themselves. My friends should be proud of themselves and confident in their abilities to manage their emotions because if and when I’m not there, they should know that they are capable of going on.
Watching this video helped me out a lot. My little emo middle school self was obsessed with twenty one pilots and honestly looking back now I realize that I don’t give myself enough credit. I am alive because of me and my own efforts, not solely because of a band from Ohio but because of my decisions to get out of bed and to carry on.
Thanks Nate ✌️ keep up the awesome work
Same here
You handled this important topic really well.. also A WEEKLY UPLOAD?!
Weekly uploads are back hopefully!!!
@@NateIsLameneat
@@NateIsLame*narrated deep voice* they were not back...
Enough about musicians saving your life, let's talk about musicians who have ended lives, for example, Awsten Knight broke into my house and killed me and my entire family and stole my dog and while he was stabbing me, he called me several slurs while his band mates watched
I think this is actually really importent both the pressure put on the artist but even more the stripping oneself of the accomplishment of people who fight in these dark mental places. Very well put!
tldr music may inspire you to continue forward but it was still your decision to get better in the end, not the music
Music is only special once. Your make the choice to stick around a million times after hearing it.
You do all the work. Take credit for your victories.
I personally think its better to say your music got me through a hard time in my life as it gives credit to the song writers ability to resonate with their audience but doesn't put this impossible responsibility on the artist
NateIsLame once again proving himself to be the best animated story time channel of all time
This goes for every art form, not just music. I recently read the big three of seinen (Berserk, Vagabond, Vinland Saga) and that experience really motivated me to become a better and kinder person. They didn't literally change me, I had to make that choice myself. But I am extremely grateful that they gave me that final push into changing for the better.
(P.S Berserk, Vagabond, and Vinland are literally some of the greatest fictional stories ever written. I highly recommend reading them.)
I just got out of a very rocky relationship (4 1/2 years) of my partner constantly needing me and using only me as a clutch for his mental conditions and his problems (we go together only 2 months after his mom passed in his arms). When I tried helping him (I'm 16 rn.) by recommending him talk to his family, friends, and possibly a therapist (he could afford and was able to go) he refused and continued to put that pressure of needing me as a clutch. I cant exactly feel how these artists feel but I can understand how it can be so stressfull to carry the thought of someone no offing themselves all because you sang. The weight of that is hurtfull and can be harming, even when its not that direct.
Great video!! Ive been feeling the same way about topics like this and how you laid it out for people to understand. Tysm for this :)
I remember being really into McCafferty when his ex-bandmates outed him as a bad person. I was really messed up for a few days. Don't attach your feelings to strangers. Great video Nate, glad you are back!
Cough cough, lovejoy
I honestly think depression really can be affected by someone other than yourself. Abandonment or just not being loved or cared about by anyone can definetly make you feel like you have no reason to live even if you want to socialize
I truly needed to hear this, Thank you Nate, you are not lame
This was a sentiment I realized was a little self-diminishing a little while ago, but it was a sentiment that I could never quite put into words. Thank you for communicating it to a wider audience, and thank you for reminding people of how much power they truly have in their own lives.
also, unrelated, but i appreciate how your drawings have basically not changed for the past six years, if it works it works
I’m stoked you’re doing better!!!
Yeah my drawings haven’t changed but they have gotten smoother and quicker since I’ve learned how to utilize my drawing software better. 😅
"Your music saved my life" to me isn't meant to be taken literally word for word. I've always viewed it as "your music helped me find meaning and purpose in life, and without that purpose, I wouldn't be here today"
It’s a heavy handed and extreme way of saying something pretty bare bones that only serves to validate and justify someone’s liking of a music project with seemingly life or death ramifications. I think it’s inappropriate and there are far better ways to express admiration to someone. 🤷♀️
I used to have constaint massive anxitey atacks, and used music to help me through those atacks. while the music did help it was no where near the soul thing keeping me together. The best peice of advice somone gave me was that when you get through an atack it was YOU who got through it, and it was YOU who peiced yourself back together, and thats somthing to be proud of.
Thanks nate for making another video that made my brain think about metal health for a bit. it's importaint to do that from time to time.
it’s always nice to come back and see a new video I loved watching your videos back In 6th grade and now i’m a junior and I still love these videos
I was just binging ur other vids for a bit and then i got this notification... love ur vids bro
I've thought about this particular subject a lot for some reason and really agree with this video, especially how this statement drains yourself of credit and holds the recipient verbally hostage.
i feel like this also really applies to those people who will donate to a twitch streamer with a message along the lines of, “your content saved my life” genuinely just seems like a really unhealthy statement
awesome video!!! so great to see you upload some stuff again :)
Everything about mental health being your own responsibility is so true. I started watching your videos as a severely depressed 15 year old and I thought I would never feel better but then I got better friends and started giving myself things to look forward and while it was very slow and certainly not linear now that I'm 20 I feel like I can finally say that I can cope with life.
This is not what I expected when I clicked on this video, but hell, it was so good to listen to. Thank you for sharing this! ❤
God each one of Nate’s videos gives me a profound new way to think about things
Beautiful video 💗 I can’t even properly describe it, I really needed to hear this. Thank you :)
second video Ive seen and damn I love your vids. Subbed and cant wait to finish your made content and start waiting on you to make more lol
this is a very well put together video, and you make some great points and did a good job explaining them! ten outta ten
So glad you’re still posting
Pyrocynical had a meet and greet and someone came up to him and said that he saved their life and he said that "no that was you".
waterparks cameo
Anything to make 13 year old viewers happy for the algorithm
@@NateIsLame i despised waterparks at age 13 tbh
Thank you for a wonderful video. These things are said with the sweetest intentions but I don’t often think people convey what they mean very well.
Ive considered hurting myself or even deciding to end my life a few times. But there were a few key moments from bands and other influencers that changed the way I think.
“Tie a noose around your mind, loose enough to breathe fine and tie it. To a tree and tell it ‘you belong to me’ this ain’t a noose, this is a leash, and I have news for you, you must obey me!” -Holding Onto You by Twenty One Pilots.
Holy heck did that give me strength. It gave me something I didn’t have at the time: courage to be angry at my situation and demand to myself that I was in control. I had choices to make after hearing that song. It helped me realize that I’m capable of more than I ever thought.
If I met Tyler and Josh today, I’d tell them “Thank you for your impactful music. You’ve done so much to help me realize I’m not alone and have empowered me. Thank you for being a catalyst to some life changing moments in my life.”
Because quite frankly, it FEELS like they saved me life. They were a lifeline when I needed it and a valve release on the feelings I had. But I’d never pressure them into thinking they need to make music to save my life. I’d also never equate my being here exclusively to them. There’s more that’s encouraged me to stay alive and keep going than just them, even if they played some big parts.
i've been thinking this for ages, i'm glad you made this video to give some of the vocabulary to what i was thinking.
Thank you for being so honest and direct when it comes to mental illness. I appreciate you making this video.
Dude I’m genuinely fucking hyped your uploading again!!
i love this video. so good to see you posting again man
This video is so empowering.
Thank you for making it❤
This is off topic I know but I am so excited about more regular uploads again. Now I can not only show my friends my favorite music but a great channel by the same guy as well! Great video as always, I’m so excited to tune in every week.
This is incredibly profound and important. So glad you're back Nate!
Nate your channel saved my life! Especially this video in particular. Everything you've done has saved me. Thank youuuuuuuuu
Nah it was you who did all the work
@@NateIsLame I was sayin that so you'd think I didn't pay attention to the video 🤣 🤣
@@DYFEALOL
Keep on going man
Nate your video has given me the knowledge to navigate my depression💜
NATE ITS OCTOBER ITS SPOOKY SEASON YOU NEED TO UPLOAD GET TO IT ‼️‼️
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Nate upload please :3 (it would make me super happy also Tysm for replying I look up to you a lot-)
For me it was kinda the community around the music tbh. Having always suffered with that kinda thing it was like a bunch of online friends. All the old fandoms I was in were dead or just had people older than me. With MCR, I can actually talk to people lol. It's a really nice community that's better than any other online one I've been in (looking at you, Hamilton). All my irl friends always made fun of me for the things I like too. Now I have people who are active and my age to talk to :D Did Frank Iero save my life? Fuck no but the friends I made through that community helped a lot.
I pretty much said this to an old “friend group”.
They called me a monster and proceeded to shit talk me. Some people cannot be helped, I swear.
Accepting responsibility for yourself is scary and it’s easy to tie your ego up in relatable strangers’ artwork. Hopefully they’ve grown up since you told them that.
I’m afraid they haven’t, according to word from the one cool dude.@@NateIsLame
This video has some of the best quotes and sentiments I have ever heard from a youtube video like gosh dang. like for real
WAS NOT EXPECTING TYLER AND GERARD
Was not ready for that Time Turned Fragile name drop. Motion City Soundtrack is the shiz-nit
Beautiful message at the end there ❤
3:19 could not have been funnier
you're the first person to point this out i'm very thankful for your comment
Hey Nate, I don’t know if you read comments but I just wanted to tell you that even if my favorite music hasn’t saved my life, you introduced me to The Used 2 years ago back when I pretty much only listened to MCR and ever since then I’ve heard so much more stuff I never would’ve if I didn’t see your video. So even if music didn’t save my life, your video that pushed me to listen to more music definately changed it for the better so thank you
woah.. this was amazing, good job mate
I love ur videos!
What is the first thing that draws u into a song? Lyrics? Guitar?
Mine is melody. I live the feeling of joy after hearing a sweet guitar riff or the sound of a beautiful voice!
This video feels oddly… dismissive of art? Like, I agree with the premise, and heavily agree with parts of the video (like the section about trauma dumping on artists or building your worldview on someone else’s words.)
But, there’s definitely songs/albums that make arguments against suicide, and I think that’s it’s entirely possible those pieces of art convinced people to change their mind. I’m specifically thinking of Bo Burnham’s Inside, when halfway through the special he just looks flat at the camera and says “Don’t kill yourself. Just don’t.” That struck a profound chord, and I think it’s dismissive of his storytelling ability to say “oh the power was inside you all along.” His art fundamentally changed how I view the topic. “Just don’t.” Sure, he didn’t save my life, but he did change my outlook on life for the better, and I think that’s worth something.
Art only needs to be profound once, but it’s the person perceiving it who needs to make the choice to put the lessons they learned into practice every day. You are still the one doing all the work and you still deserve all the credit.
It’s like saying my first grade teacher wrote this video because they taught me how to spell words for the essay.
Last year, I was at Deftones show in DC and overheard someone screaming at the top of their lungs about how the band's music stopped that person from taking their own life. Not only did it pull me out of the moment for a bit, but I found it very strange and uncomfortable to hear in public.
There have been many bands that have helped me through hard times or played a pivotal role in my life, but I realized (and still do) that me being alive is of my own accord. Not on the artist. Thanks for putting out this video Nate and I hope more people will take something good out of it!
Ok tw for this
I do feel like this is overused, but in my case it’s kinda true. I was literally putting the noose around my neck when the song “Senegal Fast Food” came on my radio and it was so upbeat and hopeful that I decided not to do it
It was still you who took the noose off and it's been you every day choosing not to put it back on. I'm glad you're still here.
I felt weird when someone said this to me and I felt weird and the responsibility I felt was a lot so I’m glad you made this video because I couldn’t agree more, even though I was happy for them, I didn’t feel like my music was the reason they were felt helped
first of all: THIS MESSAGE IS SO IMPORTANT, THERE SHOULD BE MORE DISCUSSIONS ON TOPICS LIKE THIS IN COMMUNITIES!!!
i couldn't agree more with you. yet i still think heavy statements like these can be interpreted in a positive light also, going both ways, giving the artist meaning in their life and a reason to keep going themselves too. but yeah, i hardly agree with you on this for the most part, especially as a huge linkin park fan.
i think my big realization on this topic came with the tragic death of chester bennington in 2017. their music meant and still means so much to me to this day, but that became the turning point in my life when i had to actually make the conscious choice of separating myself from the fact that this band's music, chester's powerful voice and their lyrics helped me find a more hopeful road in myself to keep going. i remember i was so shocked and confused when the news came. i felt like the ground had been ripped out from below me. i still get chills just thinking about how i felt, as i'm writing this now...
after this incident, i've been trying to distance myself from a thing like this ever happening to me again. i mean, it's just unhealthy placing so much power of your own wellbeing in the hands of a stranger, even though they made a big impact on you. your life is yours, you make the choices that you make, and it can be a heavy burden to carry on the shoulders for both of you, implying such heavy attachments.
"You do not need to validate yourself by applying some life saving qualities to some MP3s." True, but FLACs do have life saving qualities.
In all seriousness, I do understand where people are coming from when they say a band saved their life. I know I've used music to help process difficult emotions and experiences. Like you said though, the songs are not what saved you. I'm still alive because of myself, not because of whatever bands I was listening to when I wanted to die. Personally, I don't want to give some stranger that credit, they don't deserve and they probably don't want it.
THIS IS SUCH A GOOD VIDEO OH MY GOD
Someone tell me the name of the piano song playing through the video it's drivin me nuts!!
Damn that’s a good point. Especially in twenty one pilots world where people say it so much without even considering what they mean. And it just spreads so quickly to other fans that makes it seem casual. Good video Nate. And if I ever make it to an RT show I’ll hold a sign that appreciates your artistry in a positive way.
how about "Your music helped me feel seen"
That rules
yoo another vid Nate lets goo
Glad you’re back Nate
Playing music fills up my brain with stimuli other than suicidal thoughts at my lowest points. Anything that has stopped me from being suicidal during crisis has saved me, whether that’s friends who help me, sleeping so I can’t think anymore, or music so I also can’t think. Being on the spectrum, communication is hard for me, so the option that I fell back on was music to drown out my thoughts. It’s less an active choosing of living, more of me shutting my brain off to anything except the music. I have quite an empty life, so listening to music is the one thing that keeps me grounded. It’s all I have at this point really. If I didn’t have music I’d have to think about my issues and that makes me spiral.
Oh shit you were serious about weekly uploads
I’m fighting so hard you have no idea
I’m so glad you’re back dude
Nothing has really saved my life but pieces if content has made me feel better
at the risk of sounding like i agree without considering other viewpoints, yes. a good chunk of the artists and producers whose music and overall brand i became invested in over the years had fanbases who'd often claim that that music saved their lives, and i simply never understood it. often, the music would just bum me out even harder, as i realised there was no chance i'd ever reach their level of technical talent with my current toolset, being an artist and producer myself. and frankly? during this time, i also realised that i'd lock myself into depressive states just so the ordinary world would feel like a relief once i returned to it. - tho this message is coming from a different perspective than the one u presented, as my father was a veteran guitarist and i grew up in a musical household where technicality was valued more than emotion.
it feels kinda lonely to put all the credit on yourself for staying alive, but there's gotta be a way in which to have community without total codependency, but i don't quite know what that is yet. regardless, thank u 4 putting this message out here.
I think if owning all of the credit for staying alive feels lonely, I’d wager your best bet is to reach out and enrich others instead of giving credit away to someone else. Volunteering and working with other musicians, finding music oriented community centers to help out, and mentoring folks one on one and looking out for pals is often a great and fulfilling pastime in my experience. c:
Honestly I never did like saying “you’re music saved me” cause my sis just got me through hard times like MIW, Knocked Loose and PTV and ATL. Since middle school I felt like that they just got through hard times with their music but never really “saved my life”. Cause I never met or knew any of them personally or know at all. It’s just weird putting them on petal stools as well and even Alex from ATL said “we can’t really solve all your problems but we offer you a chance to escape” and i love that cause it’s really true within all the bands I listen to.
a lot of uploads recently gg :o
You put to words or, well, screen, what I’ve been thinking for a while.
this message might be motivational for some people, but i feel like you are talking a little narrowly from your own point of view. i think the strongest point here is about idolizing specific people when you’re in a bad place, but that isn’t the same as letting music, movies, or any external thing change you. as far as it really all coming from inside, it sounds nice but I just simply don’t agree. think about all the deep conversations you have with friends, or moments when they lift you up from a dark place. if that brought you out of a depression, saying they saved your life would make sense. external things do in fact impact your consciousness. i know a friend who was going on a downward spiral, walked into a bar one night, and heard a well timed piece of advice from a well placed stranger and completely changed their trajectory. so yes they had that power within, but sometimes there needs to be a catalyst for that from the outside, and not everyone is lucky enough to get that catalyst. “you are not strapped to a chair” this could be really helpful to some people (maybe you saying this will be a positive catalyst for some people) but it also is a narrow view on what life threatening places look like for people. some people have sunk to the point of true loneliness with no physical outs. life can have really hard and painful circumstances both psychological and physical. if no one is there to offer physical support to you, you have to turn to something spiritual, and for a lot of people that’s music. this is speaking from personal experience which is why i’m typing all this. people need each other, they need love and ideas and art. do some research into maslows hierarchy of needs being bullshit. if i’m gonna b really strapped in a chair for a long time, i’d rather there be music playing.
btw-it’s not always about suicide when people say this. it isn’t always this dramatic, sometimes even being pulled out of a mild depression is live saving. and i think a lot of artists know that and aren’t uncomfortable with people saying that, it’s probably a case by case basis. other artists might be happy to be reminded of the importance of there art. because art is extremely important. if feels like you have a specific image of person saying this in mind, but you’re dismissing a lot of other people and the impact that art can have.
There is truth to what you are saying, but no matter what, the individual is the one who makes the choice every moment of every day to continue to be alive.
Even if you hear a special song, heed a specific piece of advice, or have a revelation that puts things into perspective… it’s still you who does the work and implements them every day.
What I meant with the “you’re not strapped to a chair” bit is that everyone has the capability to end everything at any given time and yet the fact that someone is conscious and watching or reading this is proof that they’ve chosen to stick around up until this point for one reason or another.
Finding things that remind you why you’re still alive is important, but at the end of the day you’re still the only one in charge of being alive. You still deserve all of the credit, the same way I don’t thank my driving instructor every time I arrive at the store safely.
@@NateIsLame I’m just worried your argument is a little closer to jordan peterson “go clean your room” stuff than you might think. people need support and can’t do everything alone. when your so alone you don’t have support, there can be music and art to help add meaning to your life. in school you learn things you never would have, yeah i don’t thank my elementary school teachers every time i calculate a tip from a restaurant, but i learned it somewhere and it didn’t just come from inside. being grateful to your driving instructor, teachers, friends, isn’t saying you have no worth or potential in the first place, it’s acknowledging that people are part of what makes you grow and become the you that has the power to make these decisions. having the right teachers (and art can be a teacher) is instrumental to that. just consider that while this maybe be helpful to some people, phrasing it in such a harsh way demeans the nuance of what the phrase could mean, and this stark individualism might not give a full picture of recovery
I agree with you entirely. I've made several attempts on my life in the past, and I quite literally wouldn't be here without other people. The who, "It's you who chooses to be here." thing falls flat when you've been to a place where you don't. This video spreads the message that you are in control, and you can do it all internally, which I fundamentally disagree with. I remember not being in control of my mind. I remember all the help I needed.
And when I was being counselled on how to stop being suicidal they didn't tell me it was all in my head, and I could just figure it out. They told me to build a support network. They told me to find things that help me in a crisis (one of which they suggested was listening to music). They told me to find things to do that I could look forward to. And they gave me medication. All external things they, medical professionals, said I needed to explore so that I would live.
@@che3se1495 thanks for this, it’s a little disheartening to see a lot of people in these comments conflating the real problem that depressed people don’t give themselves enough credit with the idea that that means nothing can have helped them but themselves. hope you’re doing well!!
I live to listen and play the sick riffs I hear in music. To enjoy the drum grooves and fills. That dope bassline. And the lyrics
It's been two months, I hope everything's going well since you wanted to upload on a more consistent basis
WHAT
TWO NATE UPLOADS WITHIN LIKE A MONTH??
I am legitimately so happy right now
Oh just you wait until next weekend
Ironically, the Dan Campbell interview for Songs That Saved My Life expresses a similar sentiment: you can see you aren't alone in your feelings, but ultimately it's only you that can choose to keep going along. (I believe a bonus track from one of the albums he put out with The Wonder Years sort of goes into that as well)
This is genuinely one of the single most motivational videos I've ever seen. Thank you Nate for helping me realize that.
Side note but I finished Steven Universe all these years later and Peridot is my ultimate “Hear me out” character
@@NateIsLame peridot is my spirit animal
I once said something like this to an artist I love at a meet and greet. I wish I could tell them I was sorry for putting that burden on them, but still thank them for the great emotions they and their music gave me.
A powerful perspective, I never ever understood why people kept saying their life was saved by a stranger they only have a parasocial connection to. I always wondered as a teen if maybe I was just missing something, maybe some ethereal experience these people found by listening to their newfound favorite band, a connection that I didn't have, that I hadn't found "my savior" yet. And even though once hard times did hit, and I did find music that I could relate to in that moment, that helped me bear through the hard times a little more than if I hadn't found it (which is what I will thank Tyler Joseph for)... it didn't freakin' save my life because of some overpowering experience that suddenly made everything better, it didn't actively save my life at all. It enhanced my experience of getting out of those dark moments, yes, it inspired me and made me feel less alone, yes, but it did not do the actual work. It was a catalyst towards bettering myself that I am grateful for, and a time capsule of memories that impacted me, but that is all.
Had I seen this like 8 or 10 years ago I'd be arguing with you in the comments, but you're absolutely correct. Keep doing what you're doing Nate, it's good stuff
Added to my you are worth it/ self love playlist
YO I started listening to raccoon tour like months ago and this randomly pooped up on my feed
I'm going to admit the intro did hit a nerve because we do say music or an artist saved our lives and everything you said in the video is true and a lot of us won't admit or acknowledge that we give a big factor when we give this music a type of motivations for ourselves and just give all the credit to the artist and downplaying all of our own choices that helped us get out of that mentality that is at times dark because I think in hindsight we don't realize how much of it is our own effort and give more of the credit to just an artist because we think it's more important than our own self effort and that's why it rub off the wrong way this phrase that the artist didn't save you because I think we think more the music itself is more important than our own individual actions sometimes I think a lot of us have that to realize still that its us and the music only motives us to a certain degree
That was a really beautiful statement
Music has helped me as an escape when I felt like crap in my freshman year of high school, but did it save my life? No, no it didn’t. However it did change my perspective on life can be especially the good, the bad, and the ugly. But thankfully I’m glad I came a long way to where I am today :)
I beg to differ, Ween totally saved my life. Especially their album, Mollusk.
We are the same
i have depression and anxiety and i love tally hall, Ross never stopped me from self harming zubin didn’t tell not to kill myself