[PoE 3.24] The Most BROKEN Oversight Ever Part 2 | Six-Link Triple Synthesis Implicit Quivers

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @BeltonPoE
    @BeltonPoE  5 месяцев назад +52

    To those asking me if I’m worried about getting banned for sharing the 6 socket tech with Black Morrigan….allow me to answer before they do.
    It’s a fair question, but it’s not the right question. And I made the decision to post it publicly in an attempt to highlight this purposefully and with forethought.
    GGG NEEDS to establish CLEAR and UNIVERSAL guidelines on situations like this. They continue to happen due to oversights or a lack of testing internally and GGG continues to send mixed messages that create a lose / lose for everyone involved.
    Chests with 20,000+ fire res are still in the game.
    Boots/weapons with “free” abyss sockets that do not use a suffix but maintain the abyss socket are still in the game.
    Both of these are examples of similar situations where a small group of people “exploit” a design flaw but because of their relatively small adoption , GGG simply patches the bug, leaves the pre existing items in game , and punishes no one.
    On the other hand, people like Empy have been banned or suspended for similar “discoveries” not because they were any worse or more harmful but because they disseminated them to a large audience .
    I believe this is absolutely backwards.
    With respect to itemization, mirror crafting, and true Min maxing -- “bugs” that are allowed to exist in a legacy state are centralized amongst certain power brokers who now have an asymmetrical advantage over EVERYONE because Mirrors of Kalandra exist and therefore their “exploit” profits them indefinitely and without recourse . This makes NOT acting in a situation like this as a “defensive” measure to ensure your aren’t boxed out of that possibility an absolutely necessity for anyone who wants to remain competitive in a market like mirror crafting. However, this is still a lose/lose. If the item is rolled back (as it should be) - then you lose all the money you spent making them, and you risk potentially facing account issues due to GGGs mixed messaging and inconsistent stance historically in such matters. And if you do NOT do it, you risk being left behind on a now unbeatable and irreplaceable item base that you are forced into feeling regret over knowing that you did not act because it was unintended and you were acting in good faith.
    The ONLY remedy I saw to this inconsistency was to make the items a couple times to show how it is done, and to show as many people as possible. Furthermore, I am not profiting off this by selling any of what I have made to value extract this temporary bug and dump the forthcoming liability onto some other hapless sack.
    If there are hundreds of the items in circulation amongst hundreds of individual actors, there cannot be a monopolistic centralization of these items and so to keep them in the game is at least equitable … and if they do roll them back they cannot simply patsy their lack of guidance
    / testing onto a single / small group of “bad actors”
    I love GGG and I love PoE. I would be devastated if my account were actioned against, however, stuff like this ruins the game when it’s swept under the rug.
    GGG needs to act. And GGG needs to develop a sweeping policy reform whereby any future situations like this, the res Chest, or the abyss boots come about again will result in clear cut repercussions or acceptance so that players aren’t forced into lose lose positions due to poor development and management.
    Let me know what you think. God bless.

    • @aleksandyrveliki162
      @aleksandyrveliki162 5 месяцев назад +1

      actualy it works on everything, any one handed weapon, any shield , any ofhand , and it makes it 6 socket. imagine having a 6 link claw ( shaper + what ever influenc ) and it being 6 socket with a 6 socket squaire

    • @hexagonearther710
      @hexagonearther710 5 месяцев назад

      Last situation like this i remember was very minor in heist league, were they spend a solid 2 weeks rolling back every belt with an abyss socket + jewel sockey (a bug in heist trinket + abyss chests). To be honest i really hope they roll all these items back too, am suprised they never fixed the fire res chests, maybe its just too hard for them to detect all those in rotation i dont know

    • @0725038
      @0725038 5 месяцев назад +1

      "Furthermore, I am not profiting off this by selling any of what I have made to value extract this temporary bug and dump the forthcoming liability onto some other hapless sack." You liar, a quick search on your account and you see a bunch of 6 linked squire and other 6 linked quiver on the trade website. Clearly influencing everyone else. You clearly deserve a ban.

  • @ikashibimauler
    @ikashibimauler 5 месяцев назад +4

    Belton's got that "exploit detected, better make use of it quickly" shirt collar vibe going strong.

  • @Kvodan
    @Kvodan 5 месяцев назад

    @belton let's image ggg reverse items to og socket numbers. But what if you mirror item... Its stay unchangeable? Kinda extra defence layer from fix.

    • @marioharrer9999
      @marioharrer9999 5 месяцев назад

      they just delete tht.. ur fail tht u use mirror on clearly bugged item

    • @TheOne23_
      @TheOne23_ 5 месяцев назад

      You think the mirror tag is some magical thing? lol they control the severs

  • @GrizNectar
    @GrizNectar 5 месяцев назад +58

    Now we must try an unset ring

    • @drorian
      @drorian 5 месяцев назад +3

      it would obviously have 1 socket since it's a 1x1 slot

    • @crubgolem4459
      @crubgolem4459 5 месяцев назад +5

      I believe it has to have 6 tiles of space on the item for it to give 6 sockets, so a ring wont work

    • @lordvaldus839
      @lordvaldus839 5 месяцев назад +22

      @@droriansure but getting synth plus the socket back is still pretty crazy

    • @joselazcano2451
      @joselazcano2451 5 месяцев назад

      @@lordvaldus839 just tried and it works on synth based , just one socket but still crazy to get one socket on syth based ring

    • @blech71
      @blech71 5 месяцев назад

      @@lordvaldus839this

  • @chandlergordon8878
    @chandlergordon8878 5 месяцев назад +31

    the devs are definitely going to flatten all multi-link quivers to their intended state. wait at least a couple days before wasting crafting materials on them.

    • @SadPanda94
      @SadPanda94 5 месяцев назад +2

      All the 6 link 6 socket quivers shields one hand swords will return to their original 1 or 3 socket state. You can be sure of that.

    • @cabbagepotato2421
      @cabbagepotato2421 4 месяца назад

      And all the 2000 fire res chests will... wait...

    • @chandlergordon8878
      @chandlergordon8878 3 месяца назад

      @@cabbagepotato2421 i was right.

    • @cabbagepotato2421
      @cabbagepotato2421 3 месяца назад

      @@chandlergordon8878 I know. Sure, that time you were right, but he definitely showcased situation where you wouldn't be right. Such as 2000 fire res chests or belts with extra sockets. That are still in game. They can't be made because the bugs were fixed, but the items aren't reverted and are still being mirrored.
      So it's not like GGG always removes the items

  • @Axthenon
    @Axthenon 5 месяцев назад +2

    you should imprit the 6l magic version so if they fix it you might have a chance to roll them back and bypass the fix???

  • @mantid83
    @mantid83 5 месяцев назад +21

    exploit early and exploit often.

  • @Its0ver
    @Its0ver 5 месяцев назад

    nice one, always love to see stuff like that

  • @john6717
    @john6717 5 месяцев назад +9

    How do people find out this stuff? Is there a secret group of people that whisper each other these tricks so they can use them before everyone else finds out? Always seems to be the same people find out this stuff first.

    • @kyugreywolf6801
      @kyugreywolf6801 5 месяцев назад

      It requires a minimum iq which you do not have

    • @Kvodan
      @Kvodan 5 месяцев назад +1

      Same as easter eggs, someone just try

    • @olimaktube
      @olimaktube 5 месяцев назад

      Reading code may be

    • @TheTeaGrinder
      @TheTeaGrinder 5 месяцев назад +2

      Those people are 1)smart 2)know crafting like back of their hand 3)play 24/7 4)are not on your friend list
      Thats why they know it first and we second

  • @TheSacredMaster
    @TheSacredMaster 5 месяцев назад +1

    It keeps getting better. XD

  • @pippopatek
    @pippopatek 5 месяцев назад

    Did you already try rings with socket?

  • @tjdemigod
    @tjdemigod 5 месяцев назад +3

    BEEN HOTFIXED

  • @victormp801
    @victormp801 5 месяцев назад

    Does it work on maloneys mechanism?

  • @1337sh1zo
    @1337sh1zo 5 месяцев назад +4

    those will get removed probably

  • @vygandasss66
    @vygandasss66 5 месяцев назад

    I wonder would it work with unset ring?

  • @samgreen8582
    @samgreen8582 5 месяцев назад

    This is hilarious, huge oversight.... Like they prolly thought no way that would work in the code. WRONG LOL

  • @Tdiehl717
    @Tdiehl717 5 месяцев назад +7

    Works on 1 handers
    Works on turning under rings to abyss
    Works on aegis shield somehow for some reason

  • @JesusOfEvil
    @JesusOfEvil 5 месяцев назад

    Can you corrupt an un-id'ed mallonies mechanism to get rid of the implicit then 6 link a malonies?

    • @shade2616
      @shade2616 5 месяцев назад

      can't 6link corrupted items

    • @ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022
      @ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@shade2616yeah you can, with at least 2 distinctly different ways.

    • @ominarous
      @ominarous 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022 not with bestiary, which is how this works.

    • @ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022
      @ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022 5 месяцев назад

      @@ominarous yeah, but you can still link them normally after the sockets exist.

  • @100ho
    @100ho 5 месяцев назад

    Hello, I am a POE RUclipsr who plays House of Mirrors card gambling. I enjoyed watching the video

  • @uppermost865
    @uppermost865 5 месяцев назад

    So essentially this would be 3rd 6link for bow wielders thats it right? So 1 main skill, 1 aura setup, 1 ballista?

  • @YoooWTFwasThat
    @YoooWTFwasThat 5 месяцев назад

    Lol thats a whoopsies and a half.

  • @Chirurg456
    @Chirurg456 5 месяцев назад +1

    can u make a 12 link with squire now ?(ignoring shaper etc)

    • @caneca4395
      @caneca4395 5 месяцев назад +2

      9L Base, up to 15L with mods

    • @NewSnakeEyes1
      @NewSnakeEyes1 5 месяцев назад

      Yes you can, it's been shown

    • @karlongkar
      @karlongkar 5 месяцев назад

      @@caneca4395 18L since you can 6S 1H with the same strats

    • @caneca4395
      @caneca4395 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@nr1strengthstackingtank701 Cant do it anymore, they patched it

  • @ricardorodrigues4800
    @ricardorodrigues4800 5 месяцев назад

    This guy are real a Master crafter 😮❤

  • @leanhvu8833
    @leanhvu8833 5 месяцев назад

    hot fix time

  • @adamsb72
    @adamsb72 5 месяцев назад

    i wonder if this would have worked with a stygian vise

    • @TheOne23_
      @TheOne23_ 5 месяцев назад +1

      It did, you could get 2 link belts

  • @dafizend
    @dafizend 5 месяцев назад +1

    Has anyone tried Maloney's Mechanism
    Ornate Quiver?

  • @lala97849
    @lala97849 5 месяцев назад

    i made around 300 items and hid them in several ways, lets see how many survive

  • @h2_
    @h2_ 5 месяцев назад

    can you do it on stygians?

  • @hellothere4507
    @hellothere4507 5 месяцев назад

    A ring, perhaps?

  • @tommymoua3274
    @tommymoua3274 5 месяцев назад

    Andddddd he’s gone… bannnneeeddddd

  • @russelldonais6886
    @russelldonais6886 5 месяцев назад

    ring?

  • @RidDik417
    @RidDik417 5 месяцев назад

    Beastcraft was a mistake ( Because I don't get it o

  • @aesfeieienxas1925
    @aesfeieienxas1925 5 месяцев назад

    hey, will you try buying 5 Crest of Desire to sell em to a vendor to get an Unidentified one, 4 link it then id it; just like Squire ?

  • @pomekat
    @pomekat 5 месяцев назад

    Funny thing is that this bug comes literally from a wrong variable in the item's code when the socket mod disappears (probably sockets===undefined if the item is not supposed to have sockets, and sockets===null/0 when the item gets the mod removed). Suck tiny differences can break a game lol

  • @Rodknee90
    @Rodknee90 5 месяцев назад

    6 link ring?

  • @Mardoro124
    @Mardoro124 5 месяцев назад

    James they are going to hotfix it by tomorrow probably

  • @YeOleBaz
    @YeOleBaz 5 месяцев назад

    Unset ring?

  • @odb9671
    @odb9671 5 месяцев назад

    Ye brother this craft was one for you to keep to your self. This is getting nerfed

  • @naroxo3067
    @naroxo3067 5 месяцев назад

    Now 6l an unset Ring

  • @netRunner42
    @netRunner42 5 месяцев назад +1

    dude!!!!!

  • @Bling92
    @Bling92 5 месяцев назад +1

    Whats crazy is that this beast nemesis crafting has been around for how long now? 😂

    • @mcmiked
      @mcmiked 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah but black Morrigan craft just came this league

  • @samylarbi390
    @samylarbi390 5 месяцев назад

    holy shit

  • @Adoptulous
    @Adoptulous 5 месяцев назад

    holy fuck lmao

  • @mr.killyoumore3396
    @mr.killyoumore3396 5 месяцев назад +1

    Kaom's Heart ????

    • @xMrNight
      @xMrNight 5 месяцев назад +7

      works on it

  • @panxam
    @panxam 5 месяцев назад

    If you think all the people who know the game in and out didn't do a multiple times and get obscene rich while faming broken t17s that you must be delusional. Hate this game!

  • @TheGlitscher
    @TheGlitscher 5 месяцев назад

    why the fuck did you imprint it then?

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  5 месяцев назад +1

      To make it 3 synth , that takes a while tho so just wanted to demo the idea for the video without spending 20 mins jumping between hideout and beastiary

  • @Zilverminken
    @Zilverminken 5 месяцев назад

    No way 😂😂😂

  • @dastananunax6606
    @dastananunax6606 5 месяцев назад

    Omg

  • @belala7169
    @belala7169 5 месяцев назад

    lol

  • @Demonidess
    @Demonidess 5 месяцев назад

    WTF

  • @bruvkek4629
    @bruvkek4629 5 месяцев назад +2

    ban for league and characters voided incoming

  • @grimmdawn2519
    @grimmdawn2519 5 месяцев назад

    Naaaaah

  • @manwevala1
    @manwevala1 5 месяцев назад +2

    why go public with this exploit you couldnt you have squeezed good money out of gg with this info instead you choose to ruin the market even more, gg my g

    • @kornel3634
      @kornel3634 5 месяцев назад +4

      i guess you are living under Beltons rock, huh..

    • @dariolatorre2108
      @dariolatorre2108 5 месяцев назад

      I haven’t opened Poe in a week and i knew about this from 3 different sources before Bolton video

    • @ikashibimauler
      @ikashibimauler 5 месяцев назад

      GGG is gonna come down on this like Thor's hammer. They dont want items like this in Standard, let alone league.

    • @ominarous
      @ominarous 5 месяцев назад

      ruin the market? lol

  • @SenseMusicGroup
    @SenseMusicGroup 5 месяцев назад

    100% u r banned soon

    • @xMrNight
      @xMrNight 5 месяцев назад +1

      lmao no he's not, it's a dev mistake, he is not breaking terms in any way

    • @Noggintoggin
      @Noggintoggin 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@xMrNight it is against tos if you knowingly abuse a exploit

    • @kyleayer5805
      @kyleayer5805 5 месяцев назад +1

      He hasnt abused anything yet just showed it works.

    • @TT-ub1bs
      @TT-ub1bs 5 месяцев назад +1

      what is "abuse" ?

    • @matsberg1568
      @matsberg1568 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@xMrNightdidnt empy and co get banned for knowingly interacting with an obvious "dev mistake"?

  • @iAMxVV
    @iAMxVV 5 месяцев назад

    I'd rather not play the game than watch exploiters like this. I'd respect GGG if they wiped your account clean.

    • @ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022
      @ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022 5 месяцев назад

      So, you take offense on someone publicly demonstrating an exploit thus reporting on it while specifically avoiding to take advantage of said exploit?

    • @Sudegink
      @Sudegink 5 месяцев назад

      What are you mad about? Would you rather choose that this bug was in hands of very select few who made these crazy items without showing people how? Or would you rather let people know via people like Belton talking about it, thus it getting fixed asap..?

    • @iAMxVV
      @iAMxVV 5 месяцев назад

      @@ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022 Still in his inventory, no? It's fine to bring attention to an exploit but it's not like he clicked delete item after showcasing it. Don't enable gaslighting buddy.

    • @ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022
      @ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022 5 месяцев назад

      @@iAMxVV I fail to understand how your arbitrary gaming ethics metrics are supposed to be juxtaposed as a the general policy for any and everyone. Let's see you campaign for the wanton destruction of all legacy items in standard.
      The exploit is in the open and GGG will do as they see fit and the players subsequently will do so as well. That's the important part. Your ethicological vigilantism is unwarranted and quite frankly, irrelevant.

    • @iAMxVV
      @iAMxVV 5 месяцев назад

      @@ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022 I'd have no issue with said items being straight deleted. I suppose? The issue on hand is not specific items but the act of exploiting itself. If you cannot see the difference between the two I don't know what to tell you.

  • @NmEtwo
    @NmEtwo 5 месяцев назад

    does it work on an unidentified grey spire?

    • @pr4zaVIDZ
      @pr4zaVIDZ 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes because it doesn't specify "has no sockets" when it's unidentified, similar to kaom's heart