Raw & Real #6 | Whitehat Jr Debate, Bollywood, and more
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Shwetabh, author of The Rudest Book Ever, talks with @Vedant Rusty and @Prakhar ke Pravachan about various topics. They debate about whitehat jr -- whether children at 5 should learn coding or not?
1:36:50 White hat Jr DEBATE
Shwetabh got right on "coding argument", if some one is intrested in coding, he/she will learn no matter the age or time.Its not like everyone should learn it.
bro u are right but codng is not just a language like english that you should learn there are many field to leran its just that coding is now get more popular in india and they want to earn
money by fooling people and i disagree with praakhar on this topic first see how many cs student are unemployed.
He is right because white hat jr is not right place for coding we hav edx Coursera and RUclips for that white hat jr doesn't even let kid to code they just provide blocks of ready madecode
@@thenerdycoder07 kids should watch Aman dhattarwal's content
Agar 5 saal k bachche 👶 ko coding sikha rhe ho toh differential integral calculus, statistics bhi prha do, arey psychology bhi prha do.... the earlier the better
@@puneetgupta2060 because they don't have skills
An Athlete, chef, doctor(to some extent), carpenter, plumber, poet, writer, musician(to some extent), actor, investigation agents(to some extent), lawyer & judge, pilot(till next 100 years), Farmers(to some extent), professor(except coding, data science, teachers) , CA, police, soldier, politicians, interior designers, architect( to some extent), Electricians, photographers, , p0rN $t@R$😅, artists, editors, historian, mountain tracker, sculptor(if we don't use 3d printing), drone pilot, vlogger, civil servants, etc
These are the professions where coding is not necessary
Edit:- whitehat jr. Ads are ordered to remove
he was taking about the profit of money
Marketer ,sales person,sailor,yt entertainment
Not everyone wants to be entrepreneur.
Also civil servants
Jaise kuch log #NoFap ko magic , exaggerate karte hai .
Vase yaha bhi coding ko exaggerate kar ke bata rahe hai prakhar bhai
Jab tak Indians have a job centric mentality (as opposed to an entrepreneurial mentality) we will never see the sense in teaching young kids coding. It is as simple as that.
Bro mukesh Ambani ko coding nahi aati lekin fir bhi aaj rich and successful hai na..
I thought your argument was little stupid
The way white hat jr is marketed is also debatable becz they are making a sportsman say coding is the future
It's shitty bro
Bhai hum to job hi krenge its more safe.. humare bski ni h entreprenure banna.
@@Space_Cowboy909 aur woh saari jobs jo aaj hai kal automate hojaengi
@@PrakharkePravachan ok, you should have a complete debate with shwetabh on next podcast, yesterday's debate was incomplete. 👍🏼
@@courage5904 ill talk to an expert on this today at 4 PM on my stream
Shwetabh was 100% correct in whitehatjr debate coding is not at all a necessary skill.
To use digital items no one needs to learn coding.Only if u are passionate in app or software development then only coding should be learnt .
Yeah ,right.
not 100% but he is right
Timestamp please 🙏
Why shouldn't they? Though they won't teach real coding with that company, but coding MAKES YOU THINK!!! So what's wrong if young kids give their shot at it at a young age, like they do for other academic subjects? It may or may not be their cup of tea, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT LIKE CODING, BUT THE ANSWER'S ALWAYS A NO IF YOU DON'T TRY!?? What's wrong in exploring this field too?
@@Theactualstoic So does that mean all of them shouldn't be taught? Use you brain moron. I didn't say those skills shouldn't be introduced to young kids. It's just that coding is a much more relevant and required skill in today's age and the near future.
And yes, lol.
*Live session starts*
Normal people: "Hey guys welcome..."
Super Intelligent Shwetabh: "Meow meow meow meow"
😽😽😽
at the ending also
1:41:00 pe prakhar ki mkc. Bhai usko bolo thora coding khud bhi seekh le. Utna aasan nahi hota jitna dikhate h. I have been learning coding since the age of 10 and I am sure everyone has studied some level of coding if he is from icse board. It is not easy as people think. Coding is not equivalent to reading a goddamn book.
@@godson200 Ha sub kai lia nahi hota hai kuch log 10 months mai big tech companies crack kar lete hai and kuch to samaj nahi ata hai kya ho raha hai and fir bolte hai coding easy nahi hota hai
@@rudrasahu5556 savage
Super intelligent ?
Prakhar never had toxic parents.. That's why he couldn't even comprehend what shwetabh was pointing out during white hat jr convo
Yaa I think that prakhar didn't get what shwetabh was saying
Exactly.
@@Normie404 exactly he comes from good background, agar aisa nhai hota to how the hell he is roaming free after leaving the CA preparation, he didn't consider the majority of parent's mentality factor, Indian parents are not ready to digest such rapid change, iwill surely take time .
@@courage5904 mai to prakhar ka background nahi jaana, tum bataoge?
@@courage5904 Exactly brother, not everyone has opportunities or resources that he got, should see this thing from different perspectives.
Coding is a valuable skill but everyone doesn't need to learn it
It's true mai bhi sekhta lekin fir apne interest ki cheze sekhne mein Busy ho gaya because mera mann jaldi uth jata hai aghr usme mera dil se interest nahi hai😑
@@chayan5747 *interest
Bro it's a language a digital language. Why not to learn a language if you are in a digital world. Is learning a new language decrease your potential?
Wait for 5-10 years there will be drastic change
@@thebeamerdreamer ye autocorrect ki ma ki har bar koi aakr batata hai reply mein ki bhai spelling sahi karlo 😂 bezati ho jati hai eski wajha se bohat bar hindi medium walo ke sath ye badi dikkat hai English samaj mein to aati hai lekin spelling mein ma behan Kar dete hain words ki.😁
@@vaibhavsingh1113 wohi baat hai na jub zarurat padti hai tabhi samaj mein aata hai ki aub sekh lena chahiye. 😑
Prakhar does not know many things but confidence is like he knows everything
Yes bhai theoretical knowledge se kuch tum ukhaad nahi sakte jab tak experience na ho prakhar ke case me kuch aisa hai
💯% agree , comment of the day ♥️🥇, maine aaj tak ek bhi live stream nhi dekhi prakahar ki , shwetabh video is enough for me.
Aisa to kuch nai laga mujhe waise
Agar disagreement se tumhe laga usse kuch aata nai hai
To bade sahi judge ho tum log fir 😂
Prakhar has a poetic and a loud way to say things, joh baat shi lgti h rakh lo, baaki fek doh
@@mynk97 💯% correct, yhi hona chaiye jaha s jo acha lge wahi pick kro, rather than fighting on creators .mera kaam shwetabh k videos s ho jata hai .bahut sare ache creators hai sbke 1-2 ghante ka podcast/live dekhne lage to apna kaam kb krenge? This I want to say. Pick which suits u and learn from them ♥️.
1:17:56 ayyy Vedant. You legend.
@@jonsnow3355 mr.beast?
@@jonsnow3355 how
The hell are you doing here?
How are you even understanding are subtitles available?
Nerd city 😱😱
I’ve masters in computers
Gawaro wali baat krdi Prakhar and Vedant ne about white hat junior
Shwetabh stands good 😌
@Tushar Sachdeva hmne toh gali ki tarah ni use kiya.. bs apko lga aisa
Gawar wali baat nhi h in some sense prakhar and vedant is also right
@@shubhamsingh3957 not right at all
@Tushar Sachdeva bro you are absolutely right force bilkul bhi nhi krna chahiye his point was ye bohot imp hai aaj ke time mai aur 5 saal ke har bache ko nhi pata hota ki usse kya karna hai people learn from experimentation and obviously it should not be forceful
@Tushar Sachdevabilkul sahi bola bache mai curiousity jagao baaki usko jaha interest hoga wo jaega aur yr kon h chutiye honge jo aisi ad se convince ho jayenge 😂
How many after Shwethab and Prakhar ' friendship broke up
Bhai ye comment kya abb har Raw & real ke episode mai karenga 😵
Bhai mai sarre raw real purane ladai ke baad dekhe
i couldn't watch after just 2 seconds of whitehat jr with that 3rd guy wth.... he sounds like one of those uncles who don't know shit about technology but have the strongest opinions and advice for everyone else
Time stamp ?
Why your description sound like you are talking about Arnab Goswami!! 🤣🤣
Prakhar said he didn't code yet, but the way he's boasting about coding
Just like desi parents..khud toh dukaan kholke bethe h par unka baccha engineer hi banega
He was appealed by the idea of advantage of edge we can have if we learn coding early on
@@jaidipvalvi4403 yeah just like some young dudes 30 years earlier were appealed by the advantages of engineering and we know what happened after that..why force a 5 year kid to learn coding...its not a verbal language like english and it needs equipments,a lot of brain use for a 5 year old kid...
@@ammansiddique8870 correct : wow your thinking is very refined thank you
Ch utiya h ye
For me, the debate isn't whether children should learn it or not
The point is that white hat jr is using false and exaggerated ads
Ever heard of a kid name wolf gupta?
Also what they are using to teach kids is a free site you can use yourself but they are charging money for it
And now, let's come to the teachers
They offered my sister, who is currently an MBBS student, a job offer, but she doesn't have any experience in coding
And they said that you don't need any experience
You guys get that? Many of the teachers themselves don't know what they are talking about
There's this guy whose name i forgot
He decided to expose white hat jr and his videos got taken down (this happened even to others who decided to raise a voice) He also got some legal case against him by one of the heads of white hat jr
I think you are talking about Mtech Viral youtube channel, he exposed white hat jr
@@lakshandersagwal idk who mtech viral is.. I'm talking about pradeep poonia
www.reddit.com/user/pooniahigh/ this is his reddit account
Yes, Poonia is exposing WhiteHat since like 2-3 months now. His 3 channels have been terminated along with his Reddit accounts.
@@anshitsrivastava4078 nope subreddit zinda hai aur busy reddit account ka naam hai pooniahigh
@@divyansharse38 Are uske accs pehle terminate ho chuke hai, randia pe kaafi famous hai Banda. Acchi reach hai uske posts ko.
No fap doesn't guarantee success right,but it makes you feel happier from inside,energetic ,emotionless that is neither happy nor sad
Meuthajsksl nhi him
it actually depends on individual goals what they are suffering from faping it should be opposite of that
I have started no fap and my Reasons is to i want to strength my self im weak and many more queries
@@igt2173 a good step. I don't really follow nofap but I usually spend 4-5 days without feeling the urges anyway thanks to my workload. Running, workout, studying, writing and then some gaming, that's my usual day. Before I used to be up late, now once in a while I may, but mostly it's 10/11-4:30/5:30 in terms of sleep schedule.
@@souvikmitra6161 its not for normal people who are addicted to it its for them
@@igt2173 you are correct.
5 saal ki umar me baccho ko ABCD yaad nhi Rehti App aur business kaise banayenge.. without mental maturity
Business ka spelling nahi aati hai 5 saal ke bachcho ko
Finally kisine imp point bola jo koi bol nahi raha. And un baccho ko coding sikhaye ka bhi kaun grown aur chote bachho ko sikhane me zameem asaman ka fark hota hai.
Yech blo aapne tai taha
bhai main to ye bolunga: bc mat chheeno unka bachpan unse, chhod do unhe, tum math ,science band karo, nange daudne do unhe park me unhe. bhai 10-11 ki age me bhi vo 2 saal me cover kar lenege sara chutiyapa. perception build karne do unhe duniya ka. padha likha to osama bin laden bhi tha. thodi sense aajane do unme duniya ki . Fir bolte hai ki phd docter racist hai. uski gnd me math ghusaya ,coding ghusayi, bachho ke saath khel raha hota , usko feel hota ham sab same species hai.
it's like you are giving a weapon in the hand of a kid and training him . Usko chalani aati hai but ye nahi pata chalani kahan hai.
"leave them and let them live"
Shwetabh bhai you are 100% right on the coding object...
1:13:20 where it actually started 💀
Underrated
True
Irony 💀
PRAKHAR INTENSIFIES
@@mrmttr3 prakhar got idea💀 from vedant rusty
Look at 1:13:34 he was thinking about that
Coding ko ye log next JEE/NEET bna denge
Asli passionate coders k paas 5-7 saal hain market capture krne k liye
@Sagar Giri iska mtlb uske baad bhed chaal vaali janta aa jaegi.. jaise jee neet m h.
Sahi Kaha😐. I agree with you, the herd mentality will end the scope of coding
Aise nahi hoga
We live in a open market now
Herd mentality se kitne bhi log aye
Jiske paas skills hai vo hi grow karega
Aur kam 3-4 saal
@@SashiDevi-ys6sq , whi bol RHA hu, we have to be at top of market, before too many of sheeps come in..
Commitment isn't scary. Wasting years of life, is
Where are u from
Isn't that the same thing?
@@silverpenetrator739 it depends
@@HIMANSHU-mt1jk why ask
are you able to understand all this in Hindi.
shwetabh is right on coding..
Time?
@@karanvirsingh Thanks buddy
33:19 shwetabh knew it
But failed to Identify who it was.
33:37 this didn't aged well 👽
I really get very negative vibes from this Prakhar. Before pointing on others look where you stand. Someone already said in comment section that he is knowledgeable which is true but the way he put his points it become completely pointless. Your need to work on your attitude. Please convey my message to him bhaiya.
Exactly
Same here 😐
Yes I felt that
At 11:03
Shewtab has a two horns🔥🔥🔥
Perfectly adjust by camera 😀😎
House Baratheon
Lol
🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣
*D o r i m e*
What Prakhar needs to understand is, coding does not equate to the entire digital world. For example, I'm a water resources engineering student. The field of water resources has computer applications at almost every step like Mapping by GIS, modelling on softwares....and what not. But coding here is hardly a requisite for any of us students, because for majority of us our work requires knowledge on how to use these softwares and not on how to create the softwares. I know coding these softwares is very crucial for further technical developments in the field, and it is fundamental to the entire system, but it is not the only step. It's like everyone in the food industry should know farming.
Coding is an important link, but it isn't the entire chain.
software = coding !!!
without that, computer and digital devices would be plain Box
Sir aap description me heading daal dia karo na session ka
2 hr ka session hai , itna time nhi hota hai ki pura session dekh pau
Jo apne kaam ka wahi dekh sku iske liye plz content ka description daal dia karo
Inshort "Timestamp"
Exactly
Prakhar makes a point, Vedant : I agree
Shwetabh opposes his point, Vedant : I agree
lol vedant ka khud ka kuch stand nhi hai, he adds nothing to the converstion
Per jab point of view unn logon se mil Raha hai toh woh kya bole .
yr koi itna dumb kese hoskta ha 😃😃😃😃🤣🤣
@@byebye6123 tmse to samajhdar hi hai
Bhai stand hona zaruri thodi hota hai har cheez par. I do agree ki Nepotism is wrong but I also agree ki Nepotism par solely attack karne se kuch nahi milna. I agree that coding is not a necessity but I also agree ki coding can be useful in various aspects! So 1 guy can have agreement with 2 arguments :)
Just because he agrees to 2 points of view doesn't mean he has no stand in it.
Prakhar is very knowledgeable agreed but I think he boasts his knowledge a lot...this is not how you use your knowledge...Bhot zyaada show off hai prakhar mei apni achievements ka which is unhealthy
Jaise kuch log #NoFap ko magic , exaggerate karte hai .
Vase yaha bhi coding ko exaggerate kar ke bata rahe hai prakhar bhai
You always see your reflection in others
I felt that he was just caught up in the moment.. that's why the intensity!
@@lakshayasood2197 then i am every famous personality that ever exist by that logic.
Rightly said, i have seen many of his videos, he makes logical points but he is resistant to understand the other side of the coin.
Coding for 5 yr olds seriously?.... Coding is more like an implementation of mathematics and at 5 yrs children probably don't even know multiplication and you are expecting them to ace concepts like integration,matrices, differential equations,linear algebra 😂😂😂😂.
Leave the children alone let them enjoy their childhood.
yeah i think it should come naturally at a certain age.
The most logical comment, no coding without maths, so all the whitehatJr is a bloody scam!
Kabse yahi baat to samjhane ki koshish kar rahi hu bhot logo ko.....bheje me hi nahi ghusti logo ke. And that's the reason why people are becoming fools!!😑😑
When I was 5 years old I was used to fight with my parents for not going school, and they are doing this much ohhhh time has changed much 🤔🤔 well I am only 15 years old now and boards are on my head 🤒
Point hai Bhai 👌😂
I miss this trio alottttt 😭❤️
shuhduhfuhcup please shuhduhfuhcup 😭😭
1:10:55
Those good old days when we get so much entertainment and deep knowledge with different perspectives ❤️
I want to say the n word. Can I say the n word?
Nobody:
Legit Nobody:
Shwetabh: Miyau-Miyau-Miyau-Miyau
😹😹
Missing this trio. Everything that happened, just so sad.
Learning how to code at age of 5 is like learning physics at that age. 5 year old child is learning basic division, multiplication. How he will be able to comprehend complex concepts like ds, algo, oop etc and if someone thinks ki "kuch nai sikhne se acha ye kuch toh sikhle" is bs bcoz without this concepts coding is very very basic(one wont be able to create any meaningful app forget about sellable product) and anyone can learn ths things within a month. Comparing ki bache ko 5 saal ki umar me cricketya kisi aur sport ki coaching dena with coding is absurd bcoz thr is no prerequisites for sports jo young kid ke pass nai h but for coding one need basic understanding of mathematics and critical thinking which most of 5 year kid dont have.
I agree. Prakhar ne bahut bakwaas kari hai added he doesn't even know anything about coding.
Exactly bro , how a 5 year old can implement a graph or linked list if he doesn't even understand the problem.
Coding is not about learning a language its all about logic. 90% is logic and 10% is language.
Yaar coding ek skill hai 5 years ki age mei seekhi but offcourse not c language or python or web development. There are many ways to learn programming like scratch , qbasic. Actually programming can enhance the child the ability to think creatively. This is can make programming more interesting for kids. Read about Tanmay Bakshi he started programming at the age of 5 years. 5 years is the perfect age to learn new things faster and effectively. As the neurons at this age consists in large number of amounts. Read the neurology behind it. U will understand
disagree
@@harshdeepsingh8211 i get it but one should learn programming early but not that early i think 11 12 year is perfect age and that too i think it should start with html(which is not programming language technically). And yes starting early will not give an edge or say a little edge let say a 5 year child learns basics like loops and conditional statements(for sake of argument) in 3 4 years. Same can be achieved in 3 to 6 months by 12 or 13 year old and even faster by 18 year old. So advantage will be limited. About tanmay bakshi he is exceptional i guess not every 15 year old will be as smart as he is.
90 percent of unbiased people support shwetabh in this argument. But Prakash is also partially correct, but Shwetabh complete complete the argument- jisko sikhne ka iccha hai usko sikhna chahiye instead of pressuring the child, which most of the parents do these days
I think promoting maths is more useful then coding . Because basically it is kind of maths why no one is really care about that ?
@@SashiDevi-ys6sq yeah prakhar didn't understand that coding is form of applied maths he is from non- mathematical background that is why he can't understanding it ?
Yea we require pnc and probability of atleast 12th level
@@SashiDevi-ys6sq that's why I wrote atleast
CSE-CSE sunke jaise jee aspirants ko orgasm ho jaata hai to parents bhi kyu pichhe rahe. Ab parents paise ke pichhe bachho ki maa chodne chahte hai to kya kar sakte hai. 🙄
As a mathematical ninja I agree
Seriously by the end Prakhar proved that he just knows things only on surface levels without any deep study or experience specially the argument about WhiteHat Jr. Matlb baccha paida hote hi note chapne ki machine ban jae. Totally agree with the idea of Mr Gangwar. Overall a good show was put up.
Yes kids at age of 5 should play and have fun rather than just running this race for money and they should enjoy their childhood
1:36:50 White hat Jr
thanks
description me diya tha vaise
Thanks bhai.
Bas thodi der pehle mil jaata tera comment 😅
I can code. I know how it's done. 5 year olds can't understand obviously. 5 year olds in our country just know multiplication, division & Fractions. 10 year olds can do it. Actually anyone who can do 5th standard maths & can solve equations with 1/2 variables can code on a basic level. Advanced algorithms & data structures need calculus & discrete mathematics.
70% comment : coding Wala section pa comment
30% : other
30% meow meow meow meow
0.01 % comments - Comments ki category divide krke Gyaan dikhana
How did you calculate this percentage?
@@karanvirsingh 0.00001% uspe gyan chodna
@@AnonymousAlien2099 lim n->inf [ gyaan(n+1) = gyaan(n) + comment]
Prakhar during the coding argument be like: Mai genius hu mujhe sb aata hai.
I found him highly opinionated, narcissistic and arrogant.
Samee!
Mereko prakhar boht chutiya lagta h💀
@@Ash-dj5ph lagat kya hai ,hai hi chutiya
@@kartikchauhan2778 hahaha lol I said that same thing in another comment and his fanboys started attacking me
He didn't even watch the ad before arguing about it.
Poora podcast sahi tha par WhiteHat pe hag diya. Shwetabh ki baat se almost agree karta hoon, 100% nehi. Par Prakhar aur Vedant se main mostly disagree karta hoon. Kuch jyaada hi generalize kar diya.
SADLY THIS PODCAST WAS A WASTE OF TIME. You Guys Should Make Your Content Separately Or Predecide Your Topic Of Discussion.
Prakhar Bhai Thinks He Is Sitting On A High Pedestal And Nobody Is Allowed To Counter Him. Vocabulary Is Not Wisdom Brother. You Are Exposing Yourself. Vedant Doesn't Have Anything To Add.
Sahi keh raha hai bro
@Mr. Oliver I said he thinks that nobody is allowed to counter him. He assumes himself to be a wise person. Although Shwetabh did counter him and corrected him.
@@karanvirsingh "To each his own" Brother. I greatly admire Shwetabh Bhai but can't appreciate this video. This was directionless.
@@Harsh255555 and the debate was not even completed, huge Facepalm moment
atleast it is better than usual youtube shit
Social skills, physical games, making friends and learning basic subjects for interaction and cognitive thinking is what a 5 year old should focus on. Parents should let their child get exposed to natural human interaction.
Prakhar's POV on whitehatjr and coding was very annoying. There are so many flaws in his logic. The last half hour of the stream was unbearable. He literally knew nothing about coding but he forced his stupid opinion at everyone. No hate on Prakhar but bhai, tumse naa ho payega.
I don't think he was forcing his opinion. He stood firm with his opinion and that's what you should do when someone is raising questions. If you turn your back to your opinions then you were never sure about it. Even though I strongly disagree with prakhar but at least he didn't abonden his views for the fear of disagreement.
@@vedantgupta6623 basically what he did was circlejerk
Everything was going ok ok until white hat Jr argument started and prakhar almost shit his pants🤦♂️🤦♂️
ikr lolol
Omg he just shitted hard mostly I think usually he is overwhelmed by the technology growing at an exponential pace
Yes bro true
@@abhi-wi2mj can you time stamp that
"Coding" itself sounds cool and engaging,once you get there,you will find out how frustrating it is.
Aise to america bhi technology me bahut aage hai,but still wahan ki entertainment industry bahut evolve hai.Just do what you are capable and advance in it.Jo naturally kr paate ho better.Sab mil jayega life me.
ye baat ye log nahi samjhege ....non coders ko yahi lagta hai ki coding seekho aur apps banao duniya me change lao .
Halwaa ni hai. Jis platform pe apne channels khol khol ke ye faltu ka gyan pel rahe hain .....us platform ko banaane me kitne saare developers ki team lagi hai tab jaakar banaa hai .
Bro Swetabh , don't hang with them much. Your level is higher. Hope you realize that.
fr
Underrated comment, I feel the same
Vedant baccha jaisa hai aur ye prakhar over acting karrta hai 🤣🤣🤣🤣
True. Prakhar is a jackass
Bro so u are saying that youve reached the level to judge what is the level of others😐
Prakhar going personal to win argument ..haha
1:42:51
When shwetabh talks about boring comment
I'm a "coder" and have been doing this for 6+ years now. I disagree with Prakhar here. The sentiment where he thinks English will be replaced by C++(or any other programming language) is exactly what the big private companies wanted people to think.
Coding will be a tool in the future, but it won't be the future. 15-20 years back a lot of institutes popped up that advertised English as the future. They implanted insecurities in parents by saying things like "your kid won't get ahead in life if he/she doesn't get a good grasp of English." And that is exactly what companies like White Hat Jr are saying. Agreed people who are proficient in English have an edge, but that doesn't mean people who don't know English have failed in their lives. Similar is the case with coding. It will just be a tool in the future, it is for sure as hell will not be the future of human communication.
I don't know exactly but I always feel ki Shwetabh is indirectly talking about Ranveer allahabadia at starting🤔😂
whitehat JR doesnt use "CODING" it used APP INVENTOR(premade APP used to make APPS) to make them learn it
Nah i completely disagree. They should not learn to code at this age. They're kids, life will be so hard,let them enjoy these moments now.
What will happen if they learn to code? Will they become programmer? No. Programming field has lot of areas from frontend to full stack. From designer to product management.
If everyone starts to learn programming then market will saturated with bad programmers.
When someone will not be able to code, their parents will be like look at him and look at you. It will be harder to digest that you don't know how to code and most of their parents will blame their child.
It's like asking everyone to be engineer. I myself a programmer and tbh it's need so much dedication but you will have that dedication when you finally matured enough because it will be your bread and butter at some point for rest of your life.
Remember steve jobs or Bill Gates didn't know what a loop at that age what these kids under whitehat jr learning, still they're ahead of ur time because they learned all the scopes.
Nah it is not that kids should not learn I myself is learning python and I am 15 but I am learning because I love it and funny side is my parents are telling not to code and study instead cause they don't any thing ABT it so children who really want to learn coding have the dedication should learn but if not they should live the life and enjoy it
Good point but there is no damage in learning something new
Yaar coding ek skill hai 5 years ki age mei seekhi but offcourse not c language or python or web development. There are many ways to learn programming like scratch , qbasic. Actually programming can enhance the child the ability to think creatively. This is can make programming more interesting for kids. Read about Tanmay Bakshi he started programming at the age of 5 years. 5 years is the perfect age to learn new things faster and effectively. As the neurons at this age consists in large number of amounts. Read the neurology behind it. U will understand
Abbey Tanmay Bakshi ke bare padh. He started his programming journey at the age of 5. Now he is working in ibm at the age 17.
Lol just to came to reply how many of you work as software developer? I'm a developer. I'm a professional at this sector so yeh chutiyappa kahin aur karo. Doing job at 17 and he will quit his job at 24. Lol😂😂
There is burden. Burden is maturity. These kids will be turned into corporate slaves. At the beginning it feels good because you learn from tutorial and when it comes to job, every day over 8 hours and looking for the bug in stack overflow, good luck with that mentality.
Coding has a Future, But it's not the Future.
Prakhar bhai needs to reflect a bit on this topic, I assume he's all taken up the hype of the imaginary digitized future of codes and programs.
Loved the argument between the two. :-)
Timestamp do na please
You must be dumbest of the dumb to be thinking that coding is not a future😷
@@abhinavnair3209 future kya hai kisi ko nahi pata yaar
@@abhinavnair3209 The dumbest of the dumb clearly stated that Coding has a Future. 🙂
You are too driven by your emotions and your pre-existing & occupied beliefs that you are even blinded to read the sentence correctly.
Being an Asshole gets you nowhere. :-)
Thanks to the stupid varun mayya :)
1:36:50 shewtabh sirf ek line bolta h samne wale pravachan detey detey bhi nhi samjha pa rhe 😂
Ghar bhi bn rhe hain but iska mtlb yeah thodi architect bn jao
Well coding is disguised form of mathematics if you go more deep into it . With various concepts of PnC , discrete mathematics , graph theory and what not!
With basic coding (which is what they will be teaching most probably) you cannot produce a high end product and most of the time you will not be able to comprehend what's going on the backstage of a software. So it's totally absurd to teach these things to very young children , let them enjoy their childhood.
The way they are marketing it , they are only using the insecurities of middle class people. Coding isn't something that gurantees a great future. It is just a tool which can enhance your problem solving capabilities and not everyone needs to learn it , those who want , will automatically learn from anywhere possible.
And yes! I do agree with shwetabh
Prakhar nd shwetabh's bonding ❤️❤️❤️❤️😢😢😢
Vedant and Prakhar should understand stand the fact that maths is one of the key things in coding. And for that a kid has to learn some prerequisite tools for coding such as multiplication, division, addition, substraction(calculus also but for advanced coding) . And these are the tools which a 5 yr old can't learn at this age in a perfect way
Complex numbers, knowledge of graph plotting,functions domain and range,PnC and factorial notation,fibonacci sequence,progression and series,trigonometry,quadratic equations,nature of roots jaise bahut saare concepts aana chahiye. There is no way a 5 year old can understand these things and start to code.
@@shivmangalprasad3503 Absolutely, algebra, graphs and calculus are the building blocks for coding. Nhi toh ghanta code kar paoge on a decent level
Ok so how SANDEEP MAHESHWARI
GOT THE POINT IN TWO DAYS STRAIGHT AFTER TAKING ALL THE BOOK IN HIS MIND .
IN FRONT OF ALL professional coders in his company
Yes you are coreect but heres the drop
Everyone has to do it in future one day or the other my be not advanced but basic level
And prakhar lives in California he's got tons of information that we are deprived of physically right now infront of our eyes.
@@arsanushka7645 Everyone is not Sandeep Maheshweri, and making 5-6 yr old learn coding makes no sense. I have completed my course on Java last year, and let me tell you that even the basics are hard to grasp for a grown up. Cmon man a 5 yr old hardly knows what addition is and u r asking him/her to code
Prakhar was interrupting the whole time when Shwetabh was putting his point. On the other hand Shwetabh was calm, elegant and patient with his friends.
in white hat jr debate prakhar was acting like he recently got to know about coding and how its the future
swetabh is 10 times better and intellectual person than this prakhar
This shows arrogance , I don't think even shwetabh compares himself to other so why u.
Depends on your definition of intellect.
Shwetabh is a pro...prakhar is a noob
Exactly
@@thehound1169 defintion is prakhar is more bookish/therotical and Shwetabh's intellect is more practical as it is based on real life scenarios/experiences. You can't expect a top notch foreign University to make you smart.
The recent discussions of Shwetabh and other guys have been extremely intellectual and deep.
Sometimes think RUclips doesn't deserve genuine creators like him.
But given channel subs increase, I think more and more people are now starting to understand and acknowledge this type of content.
Ok felt bit nostalgic and missing this trio 😪
33:10 - 34:01 Ah, the irony !
Prakhar's arguments in favour of WHJ is too naive.
Learning a human language and programming language is not the same.
Learning mathematics to build fundamental logic and learning a programming language to get into a profession is not same!
I remember there was a time when I believed in 'NOTHING'. Food was my religion and I was completely disconnected from the world around me but I had a lot of friends, like real friends if you know what I mean. I don't know about y'all but I cherish these memories and simultaneously am glad that I'm not the same person anymore.
Can you explain
@@VC-ps2vm i mean that ignorance is bliss but then we grow up n that has its own beauty. We're still ignorant about some stuff but less than before n that kinda takes the fun away from moments but it's okay, it's part of the process, fun still exists but in different activities n not as intense as before but that has a pacifying effect on us.
@@barunkalani96 same bro, I used to be a right winger and my life was shit back then, even my opinions were binary, sexiest and racist. But now I'm out of that zone and feel so much free from that blind following.
Student during math class : sir it's boring 😒
teacher : 1:10:55
I had seen this video before and after recently being told some whitehat related information, I decided to come back and make this comment.
Being a former software engineer, I don't think there's anything wrong with children learning to code. I, myself started learning coding at age 10 in school.
But a friend of mine works at an NFBC and told me that many of the credit seeker are working class ppl, like vegetable vendor, garage mechanics, etc who are seeking loans from 70k-3L to make their children join whj.
Sales executive from whj are told to target the working class and feed them false dreams of their children will earn lakhs of investment from the apps they develope.
These ppl are not savy enough to know the reality, we privileged ppl do.
The problem with whj is not that they are teaching coding to kids but their utterly bs, over the top, false marketing.
Their sale reps are told to get converts by hook or crook, whatever the means.
Working class ppl with an average family income of 20k per month are opting for loans to get their kids into the course with the hope that their kids will earn lakhs in the next 2-3 years.
This is highly unethical.
32:37 the point of destruction....🥲
😂
My mom asked me what are u doing on phone listing in. I said I'm listening to 3 people talking about random stuff on RUclips, the look she gave me was full of concern.
Meow meow squad❤️💯💪!!;
Swetabh
@Chhandak here on THIS VIDEO AT THE BEGINNING
What is it
Ew wtf this is so cringe
I totally disagree with Prakhar on the coding argument. Already being a software engineer, I believe Shwetabh gave a factual perspective on it.
Ohhoo..... So, according to Prakhar, all the jobs would be automated except coding. 😕😕😕
How can he even say that since introduction of WordPress, blogger, sketchware and wix site has almost reduced the need of coding and only drag and drop is required.
Also, I'm sure that in the near future coding wouldn't be required at all unless you want to establish your career in programing.
This guy Prakhar thinks that his opinion is reality.
@@exoticindiaa yeah! Right
Prakhar is actually putting forward more logical points about the coding debate.
Like every other subject in school (which a kid doesnt choose to study), if coding is introduced, thats like an added subject that they can get exposure to and then when they are old enough to understand things and decide on career path, they at least have the knowledge to decide what they want to do or not.
Having said that, coding is definitely being sold commercially without this rationale in mind. But I’d rather have my kid get exposure to this skill (which clearly is very relevant) than not.
I guess this is all subjective.
33:04 sandeep maheswari vs prakhar controversy perdicted
I see many comments disagree with prakhar's argument on White Hat jr.-
So just carefully listen to the conversation from 1:43:19
What Shwetabh says is correct that let the child figure out his/ her interests , don't force anything .
But prakhar's excellent point is that interest develops because it is "ACCESSIBLE" , so prakhar is just saying to make coding accessible at a young age and not keep it for college so that a child can figure out if he is interested or not at a young age.
PS- Eg. bcho ko cricket ya singing, ya jese shwetabh ne kaha sketching me interest h kyunki uske aas paas log krte h sketching ya khelte h cricket ya krte h singing , to vo accessible h , agr bche ko sketching ka concept hi pta nhi hoga , ya (hypothecally)bche ko kbhi kisine cricket nhi dikhaya , use pta hi nhi h cricket kya hota h, to usme khan se cricketer bnne ka passion aayega bhai 😂.
the point is coding already accessible hai through internet, much like how other things are accessible. The point prakhar made initially is not to make it accessible but to endorse it, for which shwetabh's argument continued in to culture, parent's mentality, etc.
Shwetabh 💙 bhai 💙 dil ki baat bol diya 💙 jis bachhe pe wo garv kr skte the usko darake se khatam kr diya jata hai. Communication bhi nhi krte hai. Bs unhone jysa kiya wohi krna padega. And when you ask them why do you live the answer will make you hopeless for entire life.
Bhaii jis bacche KO nutrition, meditation etc basic life skills ke baare me nhi pata wo coding seekhke kya karega?
today received the book from Amazon 💙💙
Yesterday received the book from Flipkart :-)
Ordered today🤗
Konsi ki baat kr rhe ho? The one which vedant reccomended ? Why wali?
@@ridhamarora1160 The Rudest Book Ever by Shwetabh bhai
Today downloaded from telegram
actually i knew i want to be an artist when i was 5.....i am 15 now...i still want to be an artist
What are you doing about it ?
Lol when I was 7, i did 10 things and attended seperate classes for each of them
1. Computer classes
2. Drawing(oil pastels and some classic water colors)
3. Music(Synthesizer, or piano, if you would like to call it that way
4. Mathematics
5.Dance class( although I attended it for 1 month, as I was uncomfortable)
6. PT and Gymnastics Classes
And now, I am 17 years old, and damn all of these are gone. I dont do any of these shit. But, I do solve maths, kyu ki agle saal jee bhi dena h. So, basically my point was, in childhood we have many dreams, but only a fraction of them get implemented. I have a dream of making big in music, I learnt guitar 2-3 years back, but then thats it. Dreams break sometimes due to the conditions we are in
@@hypocritebaba1495 trying to show off my work.....i mean instagram and youtube....
Tabbhi gadha tha abbhi gadha hai
I was surprised as 'NerdCity' really replied when I saw a comment stating 'came here after watching Shwetabh video'
he also watched the video but the subtitle was off so he couldn't understand the podcast
At 1:27 Shwetabh Sir - "Bhaiya Bahna sab ho kaha Meow Meow"
By the way liked the debate and got to know how Jay Shetty is making fool of us and selling his content. Before this debate I used to consume his content a lot. At 01:08:39 Shwetabh Sir is talking about Jay Shetty
Yes, he is nothing but a marketing scam. Talking about Jay Shetty here.
does that guy not know how toxic parents can be [some, not all]
Shwetabh jab white hat jr ki debate shuru hui aur usme 5 saal ke bachche ke interests ki baat ho rhi thi... Tab tum zyada hi narcissistic tareeke mei baat karne lage the, prakhar ne jo bola vo sahi tha ki trial and error interests ka hum karvayenge, baad mei bachcha khud choose kr lega
Narcissistic insaan k baare me pata bhi hai kuch?
Kitna dangerous level pe aise log apne baccho, dosto aur romantic partners ko dominate, manipulate aur psychological damage dete hai....aur most importantly bahut selfish hote hain
Kuch bhi gyaan mat pelo ... shwetabh ka idea 5 saal k baccho ko lekar bahut OPEN MINDED tha
@@ankushmamgain8227 maine extreme level ka narcissism nahi bola tha, shwetabh just apni baat baar baar repeat kr rha tha aur uss time pr prakhar ki baat zyada better lag rhi thi
Prakhar's stupidity on display !!!! 😂
As a former IT employee and current in IT business and other financial services in Canada. This guy long hair is completely wrong. He is talking same like last 15-20 years parents used to say that b.tech is the future, it's a same thing coding looks future right now but let's me tell you coding languages changes every 5-6 years right C++ is completely gone in the industry ,so in that case if Java and python is the major languages right now in future this will change completely because nowadays companies including me ,we are focusing on machine learning languages which completely different and one more thing most of the coders left there profession after 6-8 years because coders have to learn themselves by time. So ina nutshell, learn code at the age of 5 is baseless and useless
1:37:18 On a light note, I know Shwetabh bhai hamesha "right talk - real talk" ki baat karte hain, but I swear he so many times says the exact things that I want to hear. All the right sounding, feel good things!
So many times I hear him and go, "FINALLY! Kisi ne toh ye baat boli! Someome finally speaks my language!"
I am learning python from udemy. I bought that course for 500 rupees and it's worth it.
Prakhar's argument is that technology is evolving at such a high pace, that in order for people to survive. they should know the language of computers which is coding.
That is not true. Unless you're in the job of creating actual software, you don't really need it. They are a lot of abstractions that are added on top of the code that the end-user interacts with. I, as a user, don't really need to know implementation-specific details like what language the software has been written in.
Secondly, you have to realize that coding is just a tool that constitutes a very small part of Computer Science. The main focus should be on problem-solving skills which is the crux of CS. Anybody can write code but only a few can write good code.
ACTUALLY there is an age limit for coding ... the child should have enough analytical and logical skills to understand concepts as data structures and algorithms ... even some of the very initial projects that one makes in the learning process is of the sorts of finding prime no's factorial fibonacci series and much more ... So yes AGE IS A LIMIT ....
Vedant is always trying to add in cutely to belong in the "gang"
What i can understand from the coding debate -
Shwetabh - he is addressing a bigger problem of forcing things in a child's life. He is saying already itni cheezein hai jo patents push kartey hai ek new item mat daalo bacho ki life mein. Specially jab iss item ko itna bada banakey, itney achey se market karkey bechogey toh voh jitni zaruri nhi hai ussey kaafi zyada zaroori lagegi aur koi bacha jo interested nhi hai iss cheez mein fass jayega
Prakhar - he is saying that coding is important and is future. Jaha parents 10 cheezo ke liye push kartey hai waha ek aisi cheez ke liye bhi push karlo jo actually mein kaafi interesting and future ke purpose se important bhi ho.
I think - shwetabh is a addressing a bigger problem related to parents and Prakhar is right in saying ke bachey ko aggar aap expose karogey nhi toh pta kaisey chalega usko ki coding bhi kli cheez hai. Jaisey aggar bachey ne kabhi life mein cricket dekha hee na ho toh life mein cricketer banney ke liye aspire kaisey karega.
Both are speaking from their own experiences I guess.
Wtf. I am seeing this guy after a year. He is completely changed. He does meow meow in starting😑
16:22 - Hahahahaha I don't know sometimes on what ground Prakhar speaks about other people man, it's so idiotic sometimes. Captain Sinbad has explained real well how nofap works, where does it originate from, what are the pros and cons and the list goes on. NoFap ki neuroscience explain kar rakhi hai Captain Sinbad ne along with more information, toh launde shaant reh and appreciate his good work for fellow men. SHAANT REH
@Brainless Mind Bro Captain Sinbad just released a video lately 'If NoFap was a movie'. He quoted - "You can either die a wanker or become who you were born to be". I have tried this myself man, it surely helps you focus better in life. There are so many guys around us addicted to shit like this (porn) and that is the sole reason why NoFap videos are becoming popular. Not too sure of all the videos but love Captain's work.
Got a bit disappointed with Shwetabh (for the first time). If you watch his podcast with Salil Jamdar (Indian brand ambassador of NoFap), Shwetabh was amazed by this concept and here I don't know why he ignored/supported what Prakhar said. I kind of liked Prakhar initially but unintentionally or intentionally, he displays hypocrisy sometimes. In the last podcast, he (along with Shwetabh) was slamming pick-up artists and just recently, he interviewed Sirhud Kalra (who makes videos like - 'ladki ko kiss ke liye kaise razi kare' 😂). Also, Prakhar just blew the fuck away what 'OneItis' really means (last podcast). Gave a wrong idea to Shwetabh aur apna bhai rant karne lag gaya.
Prakhar has some good content as well (video - baap personality - mind blowing) but kabhi kabhi pata nahi ye attention ke liye karta hai ya bas overconfident hai kuch situations mein. Whatever it is, ranveer ki g*** ni maarni chahiye jab khud ek topic ki galat definition ya evaluation kar rha hai.
Quality > quantity.
@shikhar gangrade I appreciate both Shwetabh's (love that guy) and Prakhar's ideologies (except the recent "a 5 yo kid should be introduced to coding"). The only thing that came across as illogical was the way Prakhar disregarded Cap Sinbad's work. NoFap isn't that of a big deal as it is hyped and ofc everybody will react differently to every practice, I agree to that. Logically put, every man must try what works for him. Idc much about NoFap but uncensored and unethical porn is a big disaster for the generation.
To be honest, Once I was on a 2 month streak of nofap but I felt no change in my body. My body was functioning same like it was functioning during my twice a week period. So, I would say it depends on the individual's body either nofap will work or not but still excess of masturbation is unhealthy but once or twice a week is not a bad option in fact some of the studies have proved that its good for health ..
I'm myself on I'm fap since past 8 months and I can myself say this prakhar guy has habit of speaking about things without having practical knowledge about them. No fap is no magic and dosen't guarntee you success but it definitely changes peoples life and is better than jacking off daily. Captain sinbad is so much better.
Acc to them
Listening to rap = felling something which is not real/ felling cool
But
Saying boss dk after every word is what?
Kehna kya chahate ho
@@ankushmamgain8227cool feel karne ke liye faltu gaane nhi sun na chahiye par har sentence ke baad gaali dene ka kya matlab hota hai
@@siddhantpathak4731 shwetabh ki aadat hai ab kya kare,
I hear them while solving questions. Feels good and surprisingly it improves my productivity. Thanks guys.
I was about to buy Think Like a Monk but now I'm gonna read The Ruddest Book Ever AGAIN!
1:10:56 vintage shwetabh 😂😂😂 my reaction was same as that of vedant & prakhar 😂
I was looking for this.... Thank u
revisiting the raw and real olds and surely this one is the best part😂😂. Shwetabh bhai op!
@@anas._syed can you pls tell me in which podcast shwetabh asks prakhar in jest about sara ali khan being in columbia university.pls humble request
I choked on the food I was eating!!
30:51