Check out the written article version of this motherboard review here: www.alktech.co/articles/review-asus-rog-strix-b650e-f-gaming-wifi-am5-motherboard
@@wankerkathe B650E-E has more features. such as dual PCIe 5.0 x16 slots and dual PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slots - the B650E-F on the other hand comes with one PCIe 5.0 x16 slot and one PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slot. The E-E would hence be more expensive than the E-F, so it'll boil down to whether or not you have a need for the additional features that the E-E comes with...
@@wankerka I do think high-end B650E boards can make more financial sense than X670E boards, though this of course does depend on your actual use case!
@@Eskimohow same here I grabbed that bundle as well it seemed too good to pas on. Are you having any issues with the RAM, specifically when enabling EXPO? My computer won’t wake from sleep.
Fantastic Review. The way you clearly highlighted every feature and every port and what they do basically removed the need to read the manual. Great work. No other reviewers cover boards the way you did. Kudos. !
Glad that you found this video useful! At least the M.2 slot in this board doesn't share its bandwidth with a more "crucial" slot...there are some implementations of Intel Z790 boards where in order to serve up PCIe 5.0 M.2 drive connectivity, board manufacturers have had to split the PCIe 5.0 x16 lanes for a graphics card into two, such that if a M.2 SSD is installed in the said Gen 5 M.2 slot, the bandwidth of the graphics card slot will be reduced...this is because unlike AMD's offerings, the Intel Z790 chipset doesn't serve up native PCIe 5.0 support for M.2 drives!
Went through your video out of pure randomness cause I'm searching advice for my next PC. You seem to be really talented for someone with less than 2K subs. Great job =)
@@ALKtech I still have my old trusty Core i7 3770k that works like a charm. But I'm planning to buy the Strix B650E-E Gaming WiFi and put a Ryzen 9 7900 (non-X) on it with some nice DDR5 =)
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 ah...the good ol' Ivy Bridge days. Can't believe that's a good 10 years or more ago now...I still have my Core i3-3220 that's collecting dust since the mobo gave out last year, been using it as a PC connected to my TV right till it died! But cool, hopefully the 7900 and B650E combo will serve you for an equally long period of time, if not more. Unless money is no object, I'd personally go with a high-end B650E board too if I were to ever build an AM5 system, as I feel that they deliver the most value in the AM5 stable!
Thanks for the detailed overview of the ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI motherboard! Your video provides an excellent insight into its features and specifications. I'm particularly impressed by the PCIe 5.0 support and the abundance of USB connectivity options. I do have a few questions, though. Could you please clarify if this motherboard supports AMD's SmartShift technology? Additionally, are there any specific advantages or unique features of the B650E chipset compared to the higher-end X670E and X670 chipsets that you mentioned earlier? Looking forward to your response!
Same overclocking tools available as the X670E. Basically unless you need that many USB and SATA ports, B650 will be just fine and B650E if you want to try and future proof somewhat. Honestly though I believe that we will see AM6 before we see graphics cards that require PCIe Gen5. Personally I like the TUF B650. Same power delivery as this board, not as many USB ports (I personally don't need that many) and no extra money being thrown at PCIe Gen 5 which we cannot even use yet.
Fair point on PCIe 5.0, especially since NVIDIA's RTX 4000 series and AMD's upcoming RX 7000 series are/will be on PCIe 4.0. We probably won't see next gen GPUs anytime soon...
@@ALKtech People have done testing with a 4090 on gen 3 speeds and there was very minimal loss in performance. So basically we would need more than double bandwith needed for a 4090 before we start needing to worry about a need for Gen5.
@@Antsog The only problem is that I need all the SATA and USB abilities that only the X670E has. Else I would have chosen the B650E cause it has all I need at first.
Great video very Informative and easy to understand,. Very well presented video well done keep up the good work....Like and subscribed. I will use this channel as my go to for pc parts. Great job ALK TECH.👍
The best thing and the reason I picked this motherboard for my 7800X3D+RTX4090 build is that it has a PCI-E x16 slot (yes, I know it operates at x4 mode) sitting at the bottom of it. With this slot, I can easily install 10GbE NIC or HBA card.
Add the fact that you've got PCIe Gen 5 support for both the primary PCIe slot and M.2 slot, as well as an upgrade path to Ryzen 8000 and perhaps even Ryzen 9000. Pretty future-proof I'd say!
@@ALKtech well I am still using 970PRO from my old rig and another SSD is 2T PCI-E 4.0, so I guess I cannot benefit much from PCI-E 5.0. However it is nice to have it anyway.
Can you tell me what is 10GbE NIC used for? I see people talking about those add on cards on those lower lanes but i have never used lower pci slots only firs for gpu.
i am a bit confused: since pci.5.0 is featured, chipset has to be B650E but both asus site and motherboard manual state that it has a b650 chipset, NOT a B650E. Moreover, in guru3d's review there is a screenshot of cpu-Z where you can clearly read B650 only...wtf!
Yeap I noticed this peculiar thing too...I strongly suspect it's just some AMD internal naming convention that wasn't very well thought out and board manufacturers had to just follow suit - if you look at other board manufacturers such as ASRock and Gigabyte, their B650E boards all have "B650" listed as the chipset too in their respective specification pages!
In a nutshell, your PC's power supply sends 12 volts of power to the motherboard that is destined for the processor. Your motherboard then uses its VRMs to step down the said 12 volts to the processor's specified operating voltage (usually around say, 1.2 volts to 1.3 volts etc). With the above in mind, the first number before the + refers to the number of VRM "phases" that the said 12 volts of power goes through to get stepped-down - the larger the number, the more phases the power goes through to get stepped down, and therefore, the "cleaner" the power gets before it's sent to the processor. In general, the larger the number before the +, the better, as this would indicate more voltage stability. This is usually more relevant in the context of high-end processors that may draw large amounts of power, or if you're intending to overclock your CPU. Hope this helps!
Thanks for the review, I actually bought this motherboard after watching your review, and so far so great!, btw, What does it exactly mean that PCIe 4.0 x16 lane operates at x4 mode?
Glad that you found the video useful! It simply means that the physical connector supports a full-length x16 card. but has physical pinouts to support x4 link speeds only (i.e. within the plastic slot itself you'll notice it only has 1/4 of the gold "teeth"). Hope this helps!
Thanks for this, I just picked this board up since it was bundled together with a 7900x and RAM at Microcenter...haven't installed it yet but wanted to see what it offered beforehand
@@ALKtech I’m running out of options I picked up the same bundle from micro center just yesterday and I got everything together everything is good but for some reason my board didn’t recognize any of my bootable drives at first and then it did but it wouldn’t boot. I’m not too familiar with asus boards but whenever I turn it on all color errors flash and they go away indicating that they’re fixed but the one continuous error is the boot error. Can you please help me ?
@@CheeseTheFeared What drives are you using at the present moment? Combination of M.2 NVMe and SATA drives? Were these drives working perfectly fine in your previous PC?
Actually this is not just limited to ASUS - for other brands such as Gigabyte, MSI etc, you'll find that the boxes are unsealed, and some brands may only just put a simple piece of clear tape to hold the opening of the static bag together. Your best bet would be to purchase your motherboard from a trusted physical/online retailer that won't mess around with things!
@@ALKtech Thank you ! I am buying it from a trusted physical and online retailer, actually a big one in my country. I wanted to be sure about these seals not being there :))
@@dragos1354I was wondering the same, I got mine from amazon and this no deal thing was making me think it was already used, plus the static bag was like no smooth, like it had the marks of pointy parts on it.
Here is my review of this board. It's cheap now, but it has two issues. The I225-V onboard LAN is bad. It disconnects the internet on random. The second is the RGB on the left side is weak.
I've read about the I225-V's issues online - seems to be a mixed bag with some folks having no issues with their LAN, and some getting packet loss and all that. Did flashing to the latest BIOS/using the latest Intel drivers help with your issues in any way?
If you're running this board personally, how are boot times? Mines a bit slow on initial start from a turned off state. I kinda knew about it going in, but the bios version I'm running seemed to make it slower. Might have to try the latest bios
I don't run this board personally unfortunately, as it was a marketing sample. But yeah, have a go at updating the BIOS - hopefully there are optimisations that help speed up boot times!
this board is the slowest to boot from power off or even restart. I came here looking to see if anyone figured out how to make it boot faster. It takes like 45sec to over a minute to post everytime. My X570 with my 5900x was power on and boot in seconds and this thing is like a minute.
I'm potentially pairing this Mobo with a 7700x but I'm curious about longevity. Will this Mobo have vrm issues later down the Ryzen line if maybe someday I wanted to upgrade to a 8950x or 9950x? ( Just making imaginary names of course)
My take is that the VRMs for this board are pretty decent - unless AMD's future Ryzen releases at the high-end are gonna turn out like the 13900K (extremely power hungry), I'd like to think that this board should be somewhat future-proof. Then again, I don't have no crystal ball 😂
@@ALKtech I figured that might be the case, sounds like there will be improvements to power consumption coming soon thankfully... Those power consumption measurements scared me on Intel's side 😂
The power delivery on all their ATX boards outside of the B650 Prime should have no problems with future generations of AM5. The Prime probably would be able to be ok as well but could have issues with the highest end 2 or 3 generations away.
Great overview. Gives me all the info I need to buy it. I'll be pairing this with a 7800X3D in Q4 2023, Hopefully by then these boards will ship with the proper BIOS revision to support said CPU.
Glad you found the video useful! Even if it doesn't come shipped with a BIOS that supports the X3D CPUs, using the BIOS FlashBack feature to get the latest BIOS onto the board should be a relatively fuss-free affair!
Hi, do you have any issue with the notorious intel I225-v 2.5gb LAN on this board? I found a lot of issue with this Intel LAN on google and not sure it has been fixed or not. Btw, will I get 100% of CPU performance if I pair it with a ryzen 7700x, I not planning to overclock though.
Hello, I've read about the issues that you're referring to regarding the I225-V on places such as Reddit as well - these issues seem to affect older step codes of the I225-V if I'm not mistaken. The review unit of this board that I received came with an I225-V chip with step code SLNMH, which is the latest B3 revision that SEEMS to have fixed the issues that the earlier chips faced...that said, I must caveat that I did not get the chance to test this board's Ethernet myself! In terms of pairing this board with a 7700X, I'd say it's a good combo and you'll have no issues maxing out the CPU's performance!
What is the best video card for this to run VR games and cyberpunk smoothly? Plus would you recommend a 1000 watt psu? Any tips on what I should get to fulfill this combo that comes with ryzen 9 7900x 12 core
What resolution do you intend to game at and at what kinds of graphics settings? 1440p? Maxed out graphics details? Since you're building a sorta high-end gaming PC, a 1000W PSU's always handy to have to afford some headroom for future upgrades, but this would be largely influenced by which graphics card you'll be getting. Personally, I would be looking at minimally a RTX 4070 Ti/RX 7900 XT and above kinda graphics card to pair with the 7900X, but which card would be very much dependent on the price situation where you're from too!
Hello there, great video! Do you have any issues with this board so far I bought it last month and I’m waiting for the rest of my parts to arrive. Gamers nexus was talking about cpus being damaged bc of overvoltage on the motherboard.
Thanks! I only had the chance to work with this board several months back when it was first released as it was a marketing sample - this was way before the X3D burnout fiasco happened. Are you intending to use a X3D chip with this board? In any case, just make sure you update the BIOS to the latest version as soon as you can, to hopefully prevent the overvoltage/burnout issues that have been hogging the limelight of late...
@@ALKtech thanks for responding. I bought this board in a part of a combo from Microcenter for $599. It included the 7900x 32 gb 6000cl36 and this board.
@@saipand9986 that's a really good price. Do the RAMs come in a matched pair (2x16GB)? That said, you shouldn't encounter the burnout issues since they seem to affect the X3D chips...but again, no harm just making sure you update to the latest BIOS version!
@@ALKtech yea the ram does come in a matched pair of 2x16gb. It’s a pair of g skill flare x5. Seems like they lowered the price to 549 now for some reason on micro center’s website .
@@saipand9986 ah well. US$599 for what you got is still a damn good price, at least compared to where I'm from - a similar combo brand new would cost slightly over US$1000...
Thanks for the kind words, and I'm glad that you liked the video! I've been trying to get my hands on review units of ASRock boards for some time...let's see how it goes!
@@Troynex is the MSI X670E Tomahawk WIFI exactly the same price as the ASUS where you're from? If so, I'd probably be more inclined to get the X670E, simply because it has the better chipset - do note that the MSI board doesn't have any built-in RGB bling like the ASUS, if you're into that sorta thing!
@@ALKtech Thank you! Ye s in Germany the x670e from msi Tomahawk costs only 25€ more. Thank you very much! So I will buy x670e. Have you a good airflow mid Tower case for 4080 and noctua nh-D15?
@@Troynex have you decided on what processor to pair with your build yet? Also worth mentioning that AMD's next-gen Ryzen 9000 series and 800-series chipsets should be arriving in Q3/Q4 of this year. If you're not in a rush to build a PC just yet, it might be worthwhile to hold off for a while just to see what the new AMD motherboard offerings are like - by then, previous gen motherboards (X670/B650) and processors should see a price drop as well! That said, for PC case wise, I don't really have a particular inclination towards a brand at the moment. Might you have any shortlisted models in mind yet?
Nope - if I'm not mistaken, the jumper is meant to remove CPU voltage protection limits within the BIOS - more applicable for folks intending to do extreme CPU overclocking! If you're intending to enable EXPO for EXPO-compliant memory modules, this can be done easily within the BIOS without needing to tweak any jumpers on the board.
Thanks! Didn't get a chance to benchmark with this board, but I'd think that the 12+2 power stages rated for 80A should be plenty sufficient for even a 7950X...
@@ALKtech That is good to know! I'm speaking from experience because in 2019 when I built my current rig with the 3700X I orginally wanted a B450 Tomahawk MOBO because of reviews but they were sold out everywhere, so I went to a local shop and ended up with a B450-F. That MOBO has fairly weak VRM's, so in theory I kind of limited my upgrade path on AM4 for more power-hungry/hotter CPU's. When transitioning to AM5 I don't want to make that mistake again! I want to be sure I get a MOBO that can handle future AM5 upgrades without a problem.
@@iseeu-fp9po interesting, have you personally tried a higher-end AM4 CPU with the B450-F to see if indeed there's any performance impact? It'd be pretty tempting to get a 5800X3D as a drop-in upgrade to tide you through a couple more years...IF the B450-F can handle it 😂
@@ALKtech Hehe, I know right! No, I have not dared to try a Zen 3 for my MOBO yet. Actually, the 3700X has served me very well all things considered. The reason for my apprehension to upgrade with this MOBO is because of a test Hardware Unboxed did several years ago where they tested a bunch of B450's and the VRM's on the one I have they labeled as "bad". I went in to the computer store where I bought it and asked them what they thought and they didn't really understand that reasoning, hehe. There's also like a spreadsheet where one can check these things out but I can't find them anymore. It was a spreadsheet of a bunch of MOBO's of all classes and what CPU's they could support, power and cooling solutions etc. To be honest I don't think it would be an issue to try the 5800X 3D, but it would be nice to know beforehand. :)
@@iseeu-fp9po you know what, I bookmarked this AM4 VRM spreadsheet from years ago, managed to dig it up: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/edit#gid=611478281 Not sure if this is the same spreadsheet you're referring to! That said, unless you're intending to overclock, you might just get away with a 5800X3D on the B450-F, given that the X3D isn't exactly a 13900K when it comes to power consumption 😂But yeah, nothing beats being able to try it out for yourself!
There's been plenty of media attention on the overvoltage/burning X3D CPU saga, and board manufacturers seem to be actively looking at the issue. I'd recommend updating the BIOS of your board to the latest version as soon as you can!
Mmm. The ASRock, apart from having the X670E chipset, also seems to have a better VRM config, more M.2 slots and dual Ethernet ports even. ASRock's modus operandi tends to be to one-up the other brands by offering high-end chipset motherboards at lower prices. I can't comment about reliability though, as something usually has to give when you price such high-end boards aggressively...do both boards come with three-year warranties where you're from?
Yeah unfortunately all the M.2 slots on this board support NVMe drives only - it seems like the industry is moving away from SATA M.2 drives...the only new boards that still have slots that support SATA M.2 drives seem to be full-sized ATX boards from Intel (at least from what I've seen so far, mostly Intel Z790 boards).
The BIOSes should be similar - where I'm from (Singapore), the ROG STRIX B650E-F is cheaper than the PRIME X670E by about $66 US dollars, so I'd personally get the B650E over the X670E!
Where I'm from, the TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI costs around US$58 more than the ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI. I'd personally go for the B650E-F as it has a better overall feature set in my opinion, and looks much nicer aesthetics wise!
@@j0ffline Sweet! Oh yes, the B650E-F does come with nice quality-of-life features like the PCIe Q-Release button, which the TUF GAMING X670E doesn't have 😅. What CPU will you be using with the board!
The GIGABYTE B650E AORUS MASTER is the best b650e board. The 16+2+2 power phases are the best of any board out there. It's just a shame this board is $500+. Hopefully it goes down a bit during Black Friday or later.
Oh yes, the AORUS MASTER definitely has this board beat in terms of features, with more PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slots, better VRM like you mentioned...but at a cost for sure! Where I'm from, the AORUS MASTER is at least $100 US dollars more expensive than this ROG STRIX board - it really depends on whether you value the additional features for the additional money! That said, give the market some time - I suspect AMD and board manufacturers may have to revise prices downwards in the face of stiff competition from Intel...
What's the concern that you have regarding this board? By and large I think this board has the right mix of features for a relatively future-proof AMD system that will be ready for a next-gen processor upgrade (Ryzen 8000 series and perhaps 9000 series) when they arrive!
X670e e vs b650 e e which one is for better using until am5 is end i am not going to change mb and rams just upgrading cpu Upgrading every year with top cpu's newcoming 8900x 9900x etc Not intertest with double gpu or a lot of usb ports, or crazy overclock, ı just overclock on factory limit what amd says, VRM makes me worry for future upgrades
If budget is no issue for you, and since you're intending to upgrade to the best possible Ryzen CPU when they launch with each generation and do a spot of overclocking, the X670E-E sounds like the safest option. My two cents!
The ASUS in this video is positioned slightly above the Gigabyte in terms of specs, especially since the ASUS board uses the higher-end B650E chipset and the Gigabyte uses the B650 chipset. How big is the price difference between both boards where you're from?
Hi my friend built a new pc with this and he has problems when he want his ddr5 ram to run above 3600mhz does any one have a solution to this? He has 128gb of ddr5 ram (4x32gb) and the pc wont boot when he changes anything in the bios regarding his ram and the mhz they are running at.
Looking at ASUS's RAM QVL list for this board, it does appear that they've only tested 4x32GB DDR5 RAM at 5200MT/s speeds - this COULD be the reason why your friend's having issues with RAM speeds faster than 5200MT/s!
You'll be fine - you don't actually need a dedicated on-motherboard TPM module to support Windows 11 - modern CPUs such as the Ryzen 7000 series supported by this board, include a firmware version of TPM on the chip, and hence there's no need to buy a discrete TPM module to be installed on your motherboard. Hope this clarifies!
hi, it said that it can support usb 3.2 gen 1 up to 2 ports. what kind of cable header do I need for that ? and will the usb ports work separately? thank you
Most modern PC cases would come with at least one front panel USB 3.2 Gen 1 port that terminates in a 19-pin connector - this said connector is to be plugged in to the USB 3.2 Gen 1 front panel header on the motherboard. And yes, if your case comes with two front panel USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A ports and they terminate at the same single 19-pin connector, plugging this connector into the same motherboard header will enable both ports to work separately!
@@ALKtech thank you, I hope my fractal torrent has a cable like that. It has 2 type A ports in the front panel. But I don't know whether it's 2 separate cables or just 1 cable for 2 ports into single 19 pin connector.
You should be fine with DDR5 6000 RAMs - would be good to check out ASUS's RAM QVL list to see if your memory is on the list of tested ones for a peace of mind. It's technically an OC as for example, the DDR5 6000 RAMs that you intend to use, need to be set to the EXPO/XMP profile from within the BIOS in order to run at the 6000MT/s, otherwise they'd run at some much slower default speed!
Hello. I would like to buy GSKILL 32GB (2x16GB) Trident Z5 6400MHz CL32 (F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5K) with this mobo but mobo site says that it does not support it. Could you please help me?
Hi, these Qualified Vendor Lists on the website may not be the most up-to-date. Usually, RAMs should be compatible with most (if not all) motherboards, but DDR5 being quite new to the market after all...you do run the risk of stability issues. All in all, it's kinda hard to say without actually trying the RAMs for yourself with the mobo! Are you intending to buy these RAMs from online? You might want to go with a retailer that offers a return policy in the event you have compatibility issues!
You might want to check the RAM's exact model number against the ASUS QVL list on the product page for this board to be doubly sure about compatibility: rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b650e-f-gaming-wifi-model/helpdesk_qvl_memory/ There's a handful of ADATA CASTER DDR5 modules listed on this QVL list, so it'd be good for you to double check that the RAM model that you're getting is listed on the QVL, for a peace of mind!
The B650-A GAMING WIFI utilises the B650 chipset instead of the B650E chipset found in the B650E-F GAMING WIFI featured in this video - the differences are not just cosmetic. WIth the B650-A, you don't get PCIe 5.0 support for the graphics card slot, and there are some differences in the combination of USB ports that you get with both boards from what I see. Also, the B650-A has power stages rated for up to 60A vs 80A with the B650E-F!
You could overclock on B550 and B450 boards too. Nothing new there besides the fact that the AM5 boards are engineered to handle high core count CPUs with more power better.
hi everyone, im here to help please. Were you anyone able to install Windows11 on this motherboard? somehow im not able to turn on TPM 2,0. Thanks for helping me out.
@@ALKtech yup the drive in not fault and the motherboard either. I saw something on youtube that bios settings. Sharing lanes with pcie something that sort of and u need to change something in bios. Not sure what it is
@@jackdawson4807 as far as I know from the ASUS specs sheet, the M.2 slot M.2_3 shares bandwidth with the PCIe 4.0 x16 slot that operates at x4 mode as illustrated at 9:01 of this video. Do you by any chance have a device installed on the PCIe 4.0 x16 slot? In any case, I didn't get the chance to mess around with the board's BIOS settings when I had it on hand - there should be a section in the BIOS settings about "lane bifurcation" or something of that sort - you might wanna play around with those settings to see if anything changes!
You can either 1) use the BIOS FlashBack feature that allows you to update the BIOS without needing to install a processor/RAM/graphics card, or 2) load the BIOS ROM onto a thumbdrive, power up the fully assembled PC and enter the BIOS - there will be a menu page in there that will allow you to update the BIOS using the ROM file in the thumbdrive. How to use BIOS FlashBack: www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1038568/
Ah, that was when AM5 CPUs were priced higher than what they cost brand new right now - the 7600X and 7700X weren't very competitive in terms of pricing at launch, especially when you factor in DDR5 and AM5 motherboard prices and then look at Intel's offerings. Things have gotten better of late with AMD's price cuts that took place around Black Friday of 2022!
Do you think you'll need dual slots for two graphics cards, an additional M.2 slot and a more powerful VRM setup for more overclocking with the E-E? If the answer is no, the E-F would be your best bet and you'd save some money too. The E-I is an ITX board - I'd only get this board if you're intending to use an ITX case...
@@simkesimoni7077 yup, a 3070 Ti will work pretty well with a 7600X! You'll be able to game at 1080p easily, or at 1440p with Medium to High-ish settings.
@@ALKtech thanks, I was hoping to place my gpu there, I am upgrading an old system which has rigid water cooling tubing, and moving that requires a new tube to be bent. Oh wel...
@@utkua ah...I wouldn't put a GPU in that full-length slot in any case, as it only supports x4 transfer rates and would most definitely bottleneck a high-end card (which I'm assuming is what you have since you're using water cooling) 😅
@@ALKtech it was high end at some point not no more, it is a vega 64, system is threadripper 1950x, it served me well. But i guess i will upgrade gpu at some point so yes, I will move it to the top slot.
Mmm. Actually I think going with this board and a 7950X3D might not be that implausible a combo - the VRMs on this board are pretty beefy and should handle a 7950X3D just fine. Plus you still get nice-to-haves such as PCIe Gen 5 support for your graphics card and M.2 SSD...
@@ALKtech Right on, thanks for the reply! Yea, right now I'm rocking a 4080 with a 4770K lol so it's definitely time. Never owned an AMD anything so hopefully things go smooth.
@nexusthor7 Oh man, it's wonderful! No issues at all with fast boot times and quick loading websites/games with the latest bio update and of course...killer fps. AMD has officially proved themselves to me.
It should work fine with this board, though I must caveat I haven't had the chance to personally test it with a 7950X. You could consider moving one notch higher, and looking at say, the ROG STRIX B650E-E instead, which has a beefier VRM setup (16+2 vs 12+2 on the B650E-F) - this could come in handy especially if you're intending to do a spot of overclocking!
Are you referring to the TUF Gaming X670E-PLUS WIFI? If so, both boards are quite similar in terms of base features, with key differences being 1) board aesthetics 2) VRM configuration 3) audio setup 4) Ethernet chipset and 5) price. Depending on where you're from, the ROG STRIX B650E-F is the cheaper offering, and on the whole, I feel that it has the better overall feature set versus the TUF Gaming X670E. I personally prefer the aesthetics of the ROG STRIX B650E-F board, which also has the Realtek 4080 audio codec and Savitech amp chip (vs a Realtek S1220A for the TUF Gaming with no third-party amp chip), coupled with Intel 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet (vs Realtek 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet for the TUF Gaming). The TUF Gaming also has 14+2 power stages rated for up to 70A each, whilst the ROG STRIX has 12+2 power stages rated for up to 80A each. Hope the info above is useful!
Micro center has this board pared with a R9 7900x and 32GB ram for $550.00 just make shore to flash the bios as asus is in the dog house over there Bios frying CPUs
Wish there were Micro Centers where I'm from - you folks always get pretty good deals from them! But yes, gotta make sure you've got the latest BIOS for ASUS AM5 boards..
What... the B650-E is more than capable with DDR5 and NVME hahaha.... if you are referring to pcie 5.0 with nvme, the 4090 doesnt even use full pcie 4.0 bandwidth...
Check out the written article version of this motherboard review here: www.alktech.co/articles/review-asus-rog-strix-b650e-f-gaming-wifi-am5-motherboard
Which one is better the b650E -E or the B650E -F?
@@wankerkathe B650E-E has more features. such as dual PCIe 5.0 x16 slots and dual PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slots - the B650E-F on the other hand comes with one PCIe 5.0 x16 slot and one PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slot. The E-E would hence be more expensive than the E-F, so it'll boil down to whether or not you have a need for the additional features that the E-E comes with...
@@ALKtech thnks for the info, hmm i think ill go for the E - E it makes sense. Not buying a x670E not worth the money
@@wankerka I do think high-end B650E boards can make more financial sense than X670E boards, though this of course does depend on your actual use case!
@ALKtech for me it's for gaming. Gonna pair it with 7800x3d. 7900xtx. That will do for me at 1440p monitor
I just scored this MOBO, a 7900x, and a set of 32gb 6000 ddr5 RAM for $599 from Micro Center!!
I just got the same bundle as well, just checking to see if the brackets on a Corsair AIO cooler can be used on the AM5 board
@@thebodybags417 they work. I put a Corsair 240 in a Hyte y60 case using the bracket that came on the MOBO
@@sunpak4898 how did you get the coupon?
@@Eskimohow same here I grabbed that bundle as well it seemed too good to pas on. Are you having any issues with the RAM, specifically when enabling EXPO? My computer won’t wake from sleep.
Got the same bundle the other day. Looking forward to the build.
Fantastic Review. The way you clearly highlighted every feature and every port and what they do basically removed the need to read the manual. Great work. No other reviewers cover boards the way you did. Kudos. !
Thanks for the kind words Saurabh, cheers!
True, i thought the same!
Thank you for pointing out 8:50. It's aggravating how cryptic M.2 interactivity across motherboards can be. Also - Great review in general. Thank you.
Glad that you found this video useful! At least the M.2 slot in this board doesn't share its bandwidth with a more "crucial" slot...there are some implementations of Intel Z790 boards where in order to serve up PCIe 5.0 M.2 drive connectivity, board manufacturers have had to split the PCIe 5.0 x16 lanes for a graphics card into two, such that if a M.2 SSD is installed in the said Gen 5 M.2 slot, the bandwidth of the graphics card slot will be reduced...this is because unlike AMD's offerings, the Intel Z790 chipset doesn't serve up native PCIe 5.0 support for M.2 drives!
Thanks for this review. You made me realize one of the rear USB C ports is 20 gig when I thought they were both the same.
Went through your video out of pure randomness cause I'm searching advice for my next PC. You seem to be really talented for someone with less than 2K subs. Great job =)
Thanks for the kind words! What kind of a PC are you using at the present moment, and what do you have in mind roughly for your next build?
@@ALKtech I still have my old trusty Core i7 3770k that works like a charm. But I'm planning to buy the Strix B650E-E Gaming WiFi and put a Ryzen 9 7900 (non-X) on it with some nice DDR5 =)
@@ALKtech And I hesitated between B650 and X670, but I think the X670 is a bit overkill for what it is.
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 ah...the good ol' Ivy Bridge days. Can't believe that's a good 10 years or more ago now...I still have my Core i3-3220 that's collecting dust since the mobo gave out last year, been using it as a PC connected to my TV right till it died!
But cool, hopefully the 7900 and B650E combo will serve you for an equally long period of time, if not more. Unless money is no object, I'd personally go with a high-end B650E board too if I were to ever build an AM5 system, as I feel that they deliver the most value in the AM5 stable!
@@ALKtech Yup, I'm planning to buy a TUF gaming model =)
Thanks for the detailed overview of the ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI motherboard! Your video provides an excellent insight into its features and specifications. I'm particularly impressed by the PCIe 5.0 support and the abundance of USB connectivity options.
I do have a few questions, though. Could you please clarify if this motherboard supports AMD's SmartShift technology? Additionally, are there any specific advantages or unique features of the B650E chipset compared to the higher-end X670E and X670 chipsets that you mentioned earlier?
Looking forward to your response!
Same overclocking tools available as the X670E. Basically unless you need that many USB and SATA ports, B650 will be just fine and B650E if you want to try and future proof somewhat. Honestly though I believe that we will see AM6 before we see graphics cards that require PCIe Gen5. Personally I like the TUF B650. Same power delivery as this board, not as many USB ports (I personally don't need that many) and no extra money being thrown at PCIe Gen 5 which we cannot even use yet.
Fair point on PCIe 5.0, especially since NVIDIA's RTX 4000 series and AMD's upcoming RX 7000 series are/will be on PCIe 4.0. We probably won't see next gen GPUs anytime soon...
@@ALKtech People have done testing with a 4090 on gen 3 speeds and there was very minimal loss in performance. So basically we would need more than double bandwith needed for a 4090 before we start needing to worry about a need for Gen5.
I mean the rog strix b650e-e basically leaves nothing to want cuz of its future proof vrm and future proof m.2/gpu slots
@@Antsog Full disclosure I did end up getting the B650E-E.
@@Antsog The only problem is that I need all the SATA and USB abilities that only the X670E has. Else I would have chosen the B650E cause it has all I need at first.
This video helped a lot to me. Bought this MOBO for my 7900X build. Nice and clear video on to the point ♥
Hey, I just bought this mobo and am going to build a pc soon. I've heard some complaints of the boot time. How long does it take for ur pc to boot?
Great and detailed explanation of features. Best review of this board I have seen.
Great video very Informative and easy to understand,. Very well presented video well done keep up the good work....Like and subscribed. I will use this channel as my go to for pc parts. Great job ALK TECH.👍
Genuinely good review, just what I need to convince me to buy it.
The best thing and the reason I picked this motherboard for my 7800X3D+RTX4090 build is that it has a PCI-E x16 slot (yes, I know it operates at x4 mode) sitting at the bottom of it. With this slot, I can easily install 10GbE NIC or HBA card.
Add the fact that you've got PCIe Gen 5 support for both the primary PCIe slot and M.2 slot, as well as an upgrade path to Ryzen 8000 and perhaps even Ryzen 9000. Pretty future-proof I'd say!
@@ALKtech well I am still using 970PRO from my old rig and another SSD is 2T PCI-E 4.0, so I guess I cannot benefit much from PCI-E 5.0. However it is nice to have it anyway.
Can you tell me what is 10GbE NIC used for? I see people talking about those add on cards on those lower lanes but i have never used lower pci slots only firs for gpu.
@@fiece4767 For 10Gbps ethernet connection.
i am a bit confused: since pci.5.0 is featured, chipset has to be B650E but both asus site and motherboard manual state that it has a b650 chipset, NOT a B650E. Moreover, in guru3d's review there is a screenshot of cpu-Z where you can clearly read B650 only...wtf!
Yeap I noticed this peculiar thing too...I strongly suspect it's just some AMD internal naming convention that wasn't very well thought out and board manufacturers had to just follow suit - if you look at other board manufacturers such as ASRock and Gigabyte, their B650E boards all have "B650" listed as the chipset too in their respective specification pages!
a very good overview of the board, thanks!
Very informative, thank you!
Very informative and helpful!
What is the difference between 12+2 and 16+2?
In a nutshell, your PC's power supply sends 12 volts of power to the motherboard that is destined for the processor. Your motherboard then uses its VRMs to step down the said 12 volts to the processor's specified operating voltage (usually around say, 1.2 volts to 1.3 volts etc).
With the above in mind, the first number before the + refers to the number of VRM "phases" that the said 12 volts of power goes through to get stepped-down - the larger the number, the more phases the power goes through to get stepped down, and therefore, the "cleaner" the power gets before it's sent to the processor.
In general, the larger the number before the +, the better, as this would indicate more voltage stability. This is usually more relevant in the context of high-end processors that may draw large amounts of power, or if you're intending to overclock your CPU. Hope this helps!
@@ALKtech thx bro
Bro this is the best review video of all time make more!
Amazing review! Thank you very much!
Awesome overview, great job !!!
Thanks for the review, I actually bought this motherboard after watching your review, and so far so great!, btw, What does it exactly mean that PCIe 4.0 x16 lane operates at x4 mode?
Glad that you found the video useful! It simply means that the physical connector supports a full-length x16 card. but has physical pinouts to support x4 link speeds only (i.e. within the plastic slot itself you'll notice it only has 1/4 of the gold "teeth"). Hope this helps!
Thanks! Now I get it!@@ALKtech
if you were originally gonna go with a x670 just get the b650e-e version its so much better for its use
Thanks for this, I just picked this board up since it was bundled together with a 7900x and RAM at Microcenter...haven't installed it yet but wanted to see what it offered beforehand
No worries - enjoy your new build! Do you have a beast of a graphics card to go along with this and the 7900X?
@@ALKtech i have an EVGA 3080 XC3 Ultra...my old CPU was a definite bottleneck so im already seeing a noticeable improvement
@@ALKtech I’m running out of options I picked up the same bundle from micro center just yesterday and I got everything together everything is good but for some reason my board didn’t recognize any of my bootable drives at first and then it did but it wouldn’t boot. I’m not too familiar with asus boards but whenever I turn it on all color errors flash and they go away indicating that they’re fixed but the one continuous error is the boot error. Can you please help me ?
@@CheeseTheFeared What drives are you using at the present moment? Combination of M.2 NVMe and SATA drives? Were these drives working perfectly fine in your previous PC?
really nice unboxing!
good vid. subscribed!
So no seal on the box and no seal on the static bag ? I want do buy one. How can i be sure is 100% new ?
Actually this is not just limited to ASUS - for other brands such as Gigabyte, MSI etc, you'll find that the boxes are unsealed, and some brands may only just put a simple piece of clear tape to hold the opening of the static bag together. Your best bet would be to purchase your motherboard from a trusted physical/online retailer that won't mess around with things!
@@ALKtech Thank you ! I am buying it from a trusted physical and online retailer, actually a big one in my country. I wanted to be sure about these seals not being there :))
@@dragos1354I was wondering the same, I got mine from amazon and this no deal thing was making me think it was already used, plus the static bag was like no smooth, like it had the marks of pointy parts on it.
Here is my review of this board. It's cheap now, but it has two issues. The I225-V onboard LAN is bad. It disconnects the internet on random. The second is the RGB on the left side is weak.
I've read about the I225-V's issues online - seems to be a mixed bag with some folks having no issues with their LAN, and some getting packet loss and all that. Did flashing to the latest BIOS/using the latest Intel drivers help with your issues in any way?
If you're running this board personally, how are boot times? Mines a bit slow on initial start from a turned off state. I kinda knew about it going in, but the bios version I'm running seemed to make it slower. Might have to try the latest bios
I don't run this board personally unfortunately, as it was a marketing sample. But yeah, have a go at updating the BIOS - hopefully there are optimisations that help speed up boot times!
this board is the slowest to boot from power off or even restart. I came here looking to see if anyone figured out how to make it boot faster. It takes like 45sec to over a minute to post everytime. My X570 with my 5900x was power on and boot in seconds and this thing is like a minute.
Are you using the latest BIOS? my MSI board takes like 3 minutes, its insane@@SeanSR
I'm potentially pairing this Mobo with a 7700x but I'm curious about longevity. Will this Mobo have vrm issues later down the Ryzen line if maybe someday I wanted to upgrade to a 8950x or 9950x? ( Just making imaginary names of course)
My take is that the VRMs for this board are pretty decent - unless AMD's future Ryzen releases at the high-end are gonna turn out like the 13900K (extremely power hungry), I'd like to think that this board should be somewhat future-proof. Then again, I don't have no crystal ball 😂
@@ALKtech I figured that might be the case, sounds like there will be improvements to power consumption coming soon thankfully... Those power consumption measurements scared me on Intel's side 😂
The power delivery on all their ATX boards outside of the B650 Prime should have no problems with future generations of AM5. The Prime probably would be able to be ok as well but could have issues with the highest end 2 or 3 generations away.
planning on pairing this with the 7700x as well… how’d it pan out for you?
Great overview.
Gives me all the info I need to buy it. I'll be pairing this with a 7800X3D in Q4 2023,
Hopefully by then these boards will ship with the proper BIOS revision to support said CPU.
Glad you found the video useful! Even if it doesn't come shipped with a BIOS that supports the X3D CPUs, using the BIOS FlashBack feature to get the latest BIOS onto the board should be a relatively fuss-free affair!
april not q4
@@farmageddon2978 Oh, I know it's launching in April.
I won't be able to afford it till Q4. 😅
just what i was looking for!
Hi, do you have any issue with the notorious intel I225-v 2.5gb LAN on this board? I found a lot of issue with this Intel LAN on google and not sure it has been fixed or not. Btw, will I get 100% of CPU performance if I pair it with a ryzen 7700x, I not planning to overclock though.
Hello, I've read about the issues that you're referring to regarding the I225-V on places such as Reddit as well - these issues seem to affect older step codes of the I225-V if I'm not mistaken. The review unit of this board that I received came with an I225-V chip with step code SLNMH, which is the latest B3 revision that SEEMS to have fixed the issues that the earlier chips faced...that said, I must caveat that I did not get the chance to test this board's Ethernet myself!
In terms of pairing this board with a 7700X, I'd say it's a good combo and you'll have no issues maxing out the CPU's performance!
Thanks a lot!!
.... I want that screw driver
😂 perhaps I should do a review video for it one day - its a Xiaomi Electric Precision Screwdriver!
What is the best video card for this to run VR games and cyberpunk smoothly? Plus would you recommend a 1000 watt psu? Any tips on what I should get to fulfill this combo that comes with ryzen 9 7900x 12 core
What resolution do you intend to game at and at what kinds of graphics settings? 1440p? Maxed out graphics details? Since you're building a sorta high-end gaming PC, a 1000W PSU's always handy to have to afford some headroom for future upgrades, but this would be largely influenced by which graphics card you'll be getting. Personally, I would be looking at minimally a RTX 4070 Ti/RX 7900 XT and above kinda graphics card to pair with the 7900X, but which card would be very much dependent on the price situation where you're from too!
Hello there, great video! Do you have any issues with this board so far I bought it last month and I’m waiting for the rest of my parts to arrive. Gamers nexus was talking about cpus being damaged bc of overvoltage on the motherboard.
Thanks! I only had the chance to work with this board several months back when it was first released as it was a marketing sample - this was way before the X3D burnout fiasco happened.
Are you intending to use a X3D chip with this board? In any case, just make sure you update the BIOS to the latest version as soon as you can, to hopefully prevent the overvoltage/burnout issues that have been hogging the limelight of late...
@@ALKtech thanks for responding. I bought this board in a part of a combo from Microcenter for $599. It included the 7900x 32 gb 6000cl36 and this board.
@@saipand9986 that's a really good price. Do the RAMs come in a matched pair (2x16GB)? That said, you shouldn't encounter the burnout issues since they seem to affect the X3D chips...but again, no harm just making sure you update to the latest BIOS version!
@@ALKtech yea the ram does come in a matched pair of 2x16gb. It’s a pair of g skill flare x5. Seems like they lowered the price to 549 now for some reason on micro center’s website .
@@saipand9986 ah well. US$599 for what you got is still a damn good price, at least compared to where I'm from - a similar combo brand new would cost slightly over US$1000...
Could please create a review of ASRock B650 PG LIGHTNING? I loved this video a lot, the way you looked at everything and explained was wonderful!
Thanks for the kind words, and I'm glad that you liked the video! I've been trying to get my hands on review units of ASRock boards for some time...let's see how it goes!
Best board , better than many x670’s
Agreed, I think this board represents the sweet spot for value when doing up an AM5 build!
@@ALKtechi create a Brand new pc. Is this Board better than x670e boards at the Same Price Range Like msi mpg x670e Tomahawk? Which one should I Take?
@@Troynex is the MSI X670E Tomahawk WIFI exactly the same price as the ASUS where you're from? If so, I'd probably be more inclined to get the X670E, simply because it has the better chipset - do note that the MSI board doesn't have any built-in RGB bling like the ASUS, if you're into that sorta thing!
@@ALKtech Thank you! Ye
s in Germany the x670e from msi Tomahawk costs only 25€ more. Thank you very much! So I will buy x670e. Have you a good airflow mid Tower case for 4080 and noctua nh-D15?
@@Troynex have you decided on what processor to pair with your build yet? Also worth mentioning that AMD's next-gen Ryzen 9000 series and 800-series chipsets should be arriving in Q3/Q4 of this year. If you're not in a rush to build a PC just yet, it might be worthwhile to hold off for a while just to see what the new AMD motherboard offerings are like - by then, previous gen motherboards (X670/B650) and processors should see a price drop as well!
That said, for PC case wise, I don't really have a particular inclination towards a brand at the moment. Might you have any shortlisted models in mind yet?
For the CPU over Voltage jumper, do you need this if you’re using EXPO designated RAM, such as Crucial X5 series?
Nope - if I'm not mistaken, the jumper is meant to remove CPU voltage protection limits within the BIOS - more applicable for folks intending to do extreme CPU overclocking! If you're intending to enable EXPO for EXPO-compliant memory modules, this can be done easily within the BIOS without needing to tweak any jumpers on the board.
Just grabbed this board with a 7700x cpu excited to get everything installed
Sweet, what GPU will you be using in your setup?
@@ALKtech I already had a 4070ti but now I’m actually taking back the 7700x for the 7800x3d it’s on sale for $80 off at the local microcenter
@@westside4life1770 7800X3D's gonna last you some time as a gaming powerhouse!
Just picked up the micro center bundle.
Good introductory video, but no mention of VRM
Excellent video, but what about the VRM performance?
Thanks! Didn't get a chance to benchmark with this board, but I'd think that the 12+2 power stages rated for 80A should be plenty sufficient for even a 7950X...
@@ALKtech That is good to know! I'm speaking from experience because in 2019 when I built my current rig with the 3700X I orginally wanted a B450 Tomahawk MOBO because of reviews but they were sold out everywhere, so I went to a local shop and ended up with a B450-F. That MOBO has fairly weak VRM's, so in theory I kind of limited my upgrade path on AM4 for more power-hungry/hotter CPU's. When transitioning to AM5 I don't want to make that mistake again! I want to be sure I get a MOBO that can handle future AM5 upgrades without a problem.
@@iseeu-fp9po interesting, have you personally tried a higher-end AM4 CPU with the B450-F to see if indeed there's any performance impact? It'd be pretty tempting to get a 5800X3D as a drop-in upgrade to tide you through a couple more years...IF the B450-F can handle it 😂
@@ALKtech Hehe, I know right! No, I have not dared to try a Zen 3 for my MOBO yet. Actually, the 3700X has served me very well all things considered. The reason for my apprehension to upgrade with this MOBO is because of a test Hardware Unboxed did several years ago where they tested a bunch of B450's and the VRM's on the one I have they labeled as "bad". I went in to the computer store where I bought it and asked them what they thought and they didn't really understand that reasoning, hehe. There's also like a spreadsheet where one can check these things out but I can't find them anymore. It was a spreadsheet of a bunch of MOBO's of all classes and what CPU's they could support, power and cooling solutions etc. To be honest I don't think it would be an issue to try the 5800X 3D, but it would be nice to know beforehand. :)
@@iseeu-fp9po you know what, I bookmarked this AM4 VRM spreadsheet from years ago, managed to dig it up: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/edit#gid=611478281
Not sure if this is the same spreadsheet you're referring to!
That said, unless you're intending to overclock, you might just get away with a 5800X3D on the B450-F, given that the X3D isn't exactly a 13900K when it comes to power consumption 😂But yeah, nothing beats being able to try it out for yourself!
thank you from california
Can these pink stripes / parts be turned off or black?
I really hope so, otherwise I cant buy it
Unfortunately the pink bits are painted on - they're not LEDs that can be switched off..
i like this mobo but the pink line is holding me back..
I suppose you could get some stickers to cover up the pink bits if need be!
Hdmi 2.1 at only 4K 60? That must be a mistake as my old x470 board lets me game at 4K 120 (basically the limit of my tv).
hi i bought b650e f motherboard. Will it cause problems with voltage or future processors?
There's been plenty of media attention on the overvoltage/burning X3D CPU saga, and board manufacturers seem to be actively looking at the issue. I'd recommend updating the BIOS of your board to the latest version as soon as you can!
how would you compare this board to the ASRock Steel Legend X670E board? basically same price
Mmm. The ASRock, apart from having the X670E chipset, also seems to have a better VRM config, more M.2 slots and dual Ethernet ports even. ASRock's modus operandi tends to be to one-up the other brands by offering high-end chipset motherboards at lower prices. I can't comment about reliability though, as something usually has to give when you price such high-end boards aggressively...do both boards come with three-year warranties where you're from?
So is it better than the X670E Asus Tuf?
NO, just cheaper, old tech at this point, X670E is the next gen of chipset
Love this board
Just to confirm, none of the m.2 slots can run Msata? I know lots of boards of an either or option but this is Nvme only?
Yeah unfortunately all the M.2 slots on this board support NVMe drives only - it seems like the industry is moving away from SATA M.2 drives...the only new boards that still have slots that support SATA M.2 drives seem to be full-sized ATX boards from Intel (at least from what I've seen so far, mostly Intel Z790 boards).
Do you put the ram in the 2 and 4 slot for dual channel with this motherboard
Populate DIMM slots A2 and B2 first if you're intending to use two sticks of RAM with this board!
Is this motherboard bios same as Asus prime x670e. And which one you recommend more?
The BIOSes should be similar - where I'm from (Singapore), the ROG STRIX B650E-F is cheaper than the PRIME X670E by about $66 US dollars, so I'd personally get the B650E over the X670E!
Thanks for replying. I will get a b650e when r7 7800x3d release.
TUF X670E or ROG B650E? Which one is better?
Where I'm from, the TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI costs around US$58 more than the ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI. I'd personally go for the B650E-F as it has a better overall feature set in my opinion, and looks much nicer aesthetics wise!
@@ALKtech I bought ROG. ROG has a button for release PCI Slot (GPU). That's so nice move :D
@@j0ffline Sweet! Oh yes, the B650E-F does come with nice quality-of-life features like the PCIe Q-Release button, which the TUF GAMING X670E doesn't have 😅. What CPU will you be using with the board!
@@ALKtech 7950X 😇 btw I bought X670E-F ROG, not B650E xD
@@j0ffline wew high-end board for a high-end CPU. Are you gonna get a RX 7900 XTX or RTX 4090 to go with em?
The GIGABYTE B650E AORUS MASTER is the best b650e board. The 16+2+2 power phases are the best of any board out there. It's just a shame this board is $500+. Hopefully it goes down a bit during Black Friday or later.
Oh yes, the AORUS MASTER definitely has this board beat in terms of features, with more PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slots, better VRM like you mentioned...but at a cost for sure! Where I'm from, the AORUS MASTER is at least $100 US dollars more expensive than this ROG STRIX board - it really depends on whether you value the additional features for the additional money!
That said, give the market some time - I suspect AMD and board manufacturers may have to revise prices downwards in the face of stiff competition from Intel...
Okay so i got the Asus b650e should I change it to gigabyte b650e is it that much better?
Also gigabyte is cheaper by 4 dollars on cyberpowerpc
the rog stix b650e-e is the second best but costs like 350 dollars
It's $288 on Amazon atm.
I’m getting a great deal for this mother board cpu and ram. I’m kind of scared to get this motherboard what should I do?
What's the concern that you have regarding this board? By and large I think this board has the right mix of features for a relatively future-proof AMD system that will be ready for a next-gen processor upgrade (Ryzen 8000 series and perhaps 9000 series) when they arrive!
Question someone I got a Ryzen 7 7800X3D with a 4070 super will this b a good board for
This board will work perfect with a 7800X3D and 4070 SUPER!
X670e e vs b650 e e which one is for better using until am5 is end i am not going to change mb and rams just upgrading cpu
Upgrading every year with top cpu's newcoming 8900x 9900x etc
Not intertest with double gpu or a lot of usb ports, or crazy overclock, ı just overclock on factory limit what amd says, VRM makes me worry for future upgrades
If budget is no issue for you, and since you're intending to upgrade to the best possible Ryzen CPU when they launch with each generation and do a spot of overclocking, the X670E-E sounds like the safest option. My two cents!
this or the GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX
The ASUS in this video is positioned slightly above the Gigabyte in terms of specs, especially since the ASUS board uses the higher-end B650E chipset and the Gigabyte uses the B650 chipset. How big is the price difference between both boards where you're from?
Hi my friend built a new pc with this and he has problems when he want his ddr5 ram to run above 3600mhz does any one have a solution to this?
He has 128gb of ddr5 ram (4x32gb) and the pc wont boot when he changes anything in the bios regarding his ram and the mhz they are running at.
Looking at ASUS's RAM QVL list for this board, it does appear that they've only tested 4x32GB DDR5 RAM at 5200MT/s speeds - this COULD be the reason why your friend's having issues with RAM speeds faster than 5200MT/s!
Im not sure if this mobo has a tpm connector, so will it be able to run w11???
You'll be fine - you don't actually need a dedicated on-motherboard TPM module to support Windows 11 - modern CPUs such as the Ryzen 7000 series supported by this board, include a firmware version of TPM on the chip, and hence there's no need to buy a discrete TPM module to be installed on your motherboard. Hope this clarifies!
@@ALKtech now that makes sense I wasn't able to find an answer, this clarified everything thanks!!
hi, it said that it can support usb 3.2 gen 1 up to 2 ports. what kind of cable header do I need for that ? and will the usb ports work separately? thank you
Most modern PC cases would come with at least one front panel USB 3.2 Gen 1 port that terminates in a 19-pin connector - this said connector is to be plugged in to the USB 3.2 Gen 1 front panel header on the motherboard.
And yes, if your case comes with two front panel USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A ports and they terminate at the same single 19-pin connector, plugging this connector into the same motherboard header will enable both ports to work separately!
@@ALKtech thank you, I hope my fractal torrent has a cable like that. It has 2 type A ports in the front panel. But I don't know whether it's 2 separate cables or just 1 cable for 2 ports into single 19 pin connector.
@@thehahahaha88 that's a nice case - it should come with a single cable that supports two USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A ports. Enjoy your new rig!
will i have any problem with 32gb ram 6000mhz, it says i ll have to oc the moptherboard why exactly ??
tnx
You should be fine with DDR5 6000 RAMs - would be good to check out ASUS's RAM QVL list to see if your memory is on the list of tested ones for a peace of mind.
It's technically an OC as for example, the DDR5 6000 RAMs that you intend to use, need to be set to the EXPO/XMP profile from within the BIOS in order to run at the 6000MT/s, otherwise they'd run at some much slower default speed!
Can you daisychain Multiple fans to 1 header? Can that cause problems?
Yup you should be able to - this will make cable management and lighting management a lot easier.
Hello. I would like to buy GSKILL 32GB (2x16GB) Trident Z5 6400MHz CL32 (F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5K) with this mobo but mobo site says that it does not support it. Could you please help me?
Hi, these Qualified Vendor Lists on the website may not be the most up-to-date. Usually, RAMs should be compatible with most (if not all) motherboards, but DDR5 being quite new to the market after all...you do run the risk of stability issues. All in all, it's kinda hard to say without actually trying the RAMs for yourself with the mobo!
Are you intending to buy these RAMs from online? You might want to go with a retailer that offers a return policy in the event you have compatibility issues!
thinking about getting this its on sale for under 240$ US right now
Helps that DDR5 prices have been falling gradually too. What processor are you intending to get?
has no screws to attach the motherboard to the case ?
Nope - the motherboard case mounting screws usually come with the PC case and not the motherboard!
@@ALKtech ok, thaks!
Does this run well with the ryzen 7 7800X3D?
It'll run great with a 7800X3D!
Is it compatible with the AMD Ryzen™ 7 7700X
Yes it is! It's compatible with all AMD AM5 processors.
@@ALKtech ok thanks
@@ALKtech also do you need specific AIO’s
@@TheHenVR not really, as long as the AIO you're getting comes with support for the AM5 socket, it'll fit this board just fine!
@@ALKtech ok and I’m getting the nzxt kraken z73
How this works with 7800x3d?
It'll be a great pairing with the 7800X3D!
Is this motherboard support ram ADATA DDR5 XPG CASTER PC48000 6000MHz 32GB (2X16GB)?
You might want to check the RAM's exact model number against the ASUS QVL list on the product page for this board to be doubly sure about compatibility: rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b650e-f-gaming-wifi-model/helpdesk_qvl_memory/
There's a handful of ADATA CASTER DDR5 modules listed on this QVL list, so it'd be good for you to double check that the RAM model that you're getting is listed on the QVL, for a peace of mind!
@@ALKtech Appreciate the help! I didn't know there was a page for memory compatibility.
Can you tell me how tall is the vrm hestsink?
Unfortunately I do not have the board with me anymore!
what's the difference between B650-A, i think it's same just different color right?
The B650-A GAMING WIFI utilises the B650 chipset instead of the B650E chipset found in the B650E-F GAMING WIFI featured in this video - the differences are not just cosmetic. WIth the B650-A, you don't get PCIe 5.0 support for the graphics card slot, and there are some differences in the combination of USB ports that you get with both boards from what I see. Also, the B650-A has power stages rated for up to 60A vs 80A with the B650E-F!
@@ALKtech Thanks, I''ll buy the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F now.
No worries! What CPU and graphics card are you intending to use with the mobo?
@@ALKtech Ryzen 5 7600X and RX 6800 XT.
This is my first time building PC, I hope it goes well.
@@ccrsxx Sounds like a combo great for 1440p gaming! How about your memory modules, have you bought them yet?
Can you OC on B650E motherboard i heard amd said: “ you now can OC on B650 motherboard”
You could overclock on B550 and B450 boards too. Nothing new there besides the fact that the AM5 boards are engineered to handle high core count CPUs with more power better.
hi everyone, im here to help please. Were you anyone able to install Windows11 on this motherboard? somehow im not able to turn on TPM 2,0.
Thanks for helping me out.
I just bought this motherboard but the second m.2 drive does not show up no matter what i try. Any ideas would be helpfull.
Have you tried plugging the drive into the other M.2 slots to see if it can be detected? To rule out the possibility of the M.2 drive being faulty!
@@ALKtech yup the drive in not fault and the motherboard either. I saw something on youtube that bios settings. Sharing lanes with pcie something that sort of and u need to change something in bios. Not sure what it is
@@jackdawson4807 as far as I know from the ASUS specs sheet, the M.2 slot M.2_3 shares bandwidth with the PCIe 4.0 x16 slot that operates at x4 mode as illustrated at 9:01 of this video. Do you by any chance have a device installed on the PCIe 4.0 x16 slot?
In any case, I didn't get the chance to mess around with the board's BIOS settings when I had it on hand - there should be a section in the BIOS settings about "lane bifurcation" or something of that sort - you might wanna play around with those settings to see if anything changes!
@@ALKtech I tried but im not getting it. Neither the slots are bad or the ssds. It has to be something in bios
@@jackdawson4807 you fix it?
How can I update the bios of this mobo?
You can either 1) use the BIOS FlashBack feature that allows you to update the BIOS without needing to install a processor/RAM/graphics card, or 2) load the BIOS ROM onto a thumbdrive, power up the fully assembled PC and enter the BIOS - there will be a menu page in there that will allow you to update the BIOS using the ROM file in the thumbdrive.
How to use BIOS FlashBack: www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1038568/
Wdym with total cost of ownership value issue with midrangers like R5 7600x?
Ah, that was when AM5 CPUs were priced higher than what they cost brand new right now - the 7600X and 7700X weren't very competitive in terms of pricing at launch, especially when you factor in DDR5 and AM5 motherboard prices and then look at Intel's offerings. Things have gotten better of late with AMD's price cuts that took place around Black Friday of 2022!
With current pricing, I was able to do a build with this board, the 7600x, and RX 6800 for under $1.5k
ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F OR B650E-E OR B650E-I ???
Do you think you'll need dual slots for two graphics cards, an additional M.2 slot and a more powerful VRM setup for more overclocking with the E-E? If the answer is no, the E-F would be your best bet and you'd save some money too. The E-I is an ITX board - I'd only get this board if you're intending to use an ITX case...
Link that screw driver that shits dope
It's a Xiaomi Electric Precision Screwdriver!
Is ryzen 5 7600x goot combo for this motheboard?
A 7600X will work perfectly fine with this board for sure. Do you have a graphics card in mind already?
@@ALKtech I will buy used 3070 ti,good combo right?
@@simkesimoni7077 yup, a 3070 Ti will work pretty well with a 7600X! You'll be able to game at 1080p easily, or at 1440p with Medium to High-ish settings.
@@ALKtech is it evga 650w 80+ platinum enough for that cpu and that gpu? and 2x16gb ram
@@ALKtech pls answer bro
is the bottom pci-e slot also reinforced ?
Nope, only the PCIe 5.0 x16 slot is!
@@ALKtech thanks, I was hoping to place my gpu there, I am upgrading an old system which has rigid water cooling tubing, and moving that requires a new tube to be bent. Oh wel...
@@utkua ah...I wouldn't put a GPU in that full-length slot in any case, as it only supports x4 transfer rates and would most definitely bottleneck a high-end card (which I'm assuming is what you have since you're using water cooling) 😅
@@ALKtech it was high end at some point not no more, it is a vega 64, system is threadripper 1950x, it served me well. But i guess i will upgrade gpu at some point so yes, I will move it to the top slot.
They have this wis 7950x3d bundle, but idk seems kinda low end for it
Mmm. Actually I think going with this board and a 7950X3D might not be that implausible a combo - the VRMs on this board are pretty beefy and should handle a 7950X3D just fine. Plus you still get nice-to-haves such as PCIe Gen 5 support for your graphics card and M.2 SSD...
@ALKtech good micro center had a combo with 64gb of ram
@@XX-sz6qh yeah from what it seems Micro Center does run pretty good DDR5 combo deals of late!
I hope this'll have enough juice for the 7800X3D because I just bought it.
I think this board and the 7800X3D will chug along just fine! Do you have a graphics card in mind already for your build?
@@ALKtech Right on, thanks for the reply! Yea, right now I'm rocking a 4080 with a 4770K lol so it's definitely time. Never owned an AMD anything so hopefully things go smooth.
@nexusthor7 Oh man, it's wonderful! No issues at all with fast boot times and quick loading websites/games with the latest bio update and of course...killer fps. AMD has officially proved themselves to me.
@nexusthor7 Yea, none at all. Been smooth sailing. 4080/WD Black SN850X
I think they over blew the situation on that.
that pink bothers me, also that font...
I do agree it's kinda an acquired taste that might not sit down well with everyone 😅
why is this thing so damn heavy?
Well...the board does come with plenty of heatsinks that sure add to its overall weight 😂
Is this motherboard enough for R9 7950x?
It should work fine with this board, though I must caveat I haven't had the chance to personally test it with a 7950X.
You could consider moving one notch higher, and looking at say, the ROG STRIX B650E-E instead, which has a beefier VRM setup (16+2 vs 12+2 on the B650E-F) - this could come in handy especially if you're intending to do a spot of overclocking!
Is it better than the X670E Asus Tuf?
Depend on your needs. That board have better VRM
Are you referring to the TUF Gaming X670E-PLUS WIFI? If so, both boards are quite similar in terms of base features, with key differences being 1) board aesthetics 2) VRM configuration 3) audio setup 4) Ethernet chipset and 5) price.
Depending on where you're from, the ROG STRIX B650E-F is the cheaper offering, and on the whole, I feel that it has the better overall feature set versus the TUF Gaming X670E.
I personally prefer the aesthetics of the ROG STRIX B650E-F board, which also has the Realtek 4080 audio codec and Savitech amp chip (vs a Realtek S1220A for the TUF Gaming with no third-party amp chip), coupled with Intel 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet (vs Realtek 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet for the TUF Gaming).
The TUF Gaming also has 14+2 power stages rated for up to 70A each, whilst the ROG STRIX has 12+2 power stages rated for up to 80A each.
Hope the info above is useful!
Micro center has this board pared with a R9 7900x and 32GB ram for $550.00 just make shore to flash the bios as asus is in the dog house over there Bios frying CPUs
Wish there were Micro Centers where I'm from - you folks always get pretty good deals from them! But yes, gotta make sure you've got the latest BIOS for ASUS AM5 boards..
Like and comment for a very good informative video. Helped me a lot. Thanks.
I don't understand what made they go with pink instead of red... like at least pick a gender neutral colour.....
Good thing they've included some stickers that I guess could be pasted over the pink accents if the colour isn't your jam!
X670E is ready for the new DDR5 and NVME enhancements that the B650E is not, as well as other features not found on the B550 chipset mobos
can you elaborate on that? what enhancements?
What... the B650-E is more than capable with DDR5 and NVME hahaha.... if you are referring to pcie 5.0 with nvme, the 4090 doesnt even use full pcie 4.0 bandwidth...
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why would they put that ugly purple streak on this? i would of got but looks dumb in my build. why did you skip over 5v and 12v rgb headers ??
It's pink actually 😂 Anyway RGB header placements are mentioned in 9:57 of the vid!