Great review as always. I went with the CZ after shooting both pistols. The CZ just felt right and is a great shooter. I know S&W makes excellent firearms. It just comes down to the individual taste.
Excellent review! I've had the P-10C for a little while and absolutely love it. Just picked up the M&P 2.0 9mm compact and haven't had a chance to take it out yet. However, so far I love everything about the M&P. Big fan of both CZ and S&W.
My family and I were in Louisville, KY for a week in preparation for our oldest son's wedding. During that week, I was able to get away with the Mrs. and take her to a local firearms store and pistol range (no names, please). We were able to check out the CZ P-10C and the M&P 2.0 (I think the M&P was the full size) at the range. Let me tell you this much . . . BOTH pistols are well worthy of your consideration if you're in the market for a polymer frame striker fire pistol. Which did I prefer? The CZ P-10C because of the ergonomic grip and the trigger. With enough ammo at my disposal, I could've killed all the zombies in Louisville at 7 yards without even breaking into a sweat . . . provided I could have someone feed me loaded magazines.
Man glock needs to get their prices down. The only thing going for glock over the competition at this point is magazine availability, and that definately doesn't justify the price of a glock.
Great review! I ended up buying the M&P, quality is excellent but the trigger felt very mushy. I switched it out with an Apex flat trigger and now it's unbelievable. And swapped out the sights for trijicon HD XR. It's now super accurate and I feel that Apex trigger should be a standard option, it's so good.
I want to emphasize this. Folks, if either are available, buy with confidence. I would add the P320, PPQ, and VP9. The two in this link are great choices!!!
@@dizgroontled That was one rare drop angle that was fixed with the skeletonized striker years ago. Shall we rate the all Glocks off the Gen4 9mm? One of my friends failed them for a Sheriff's department. There is a reason the FBI insisted on Gen 5 and Glock quietly upgraded the Gen4. More than one Sheriff's department failed the Gen 4. Let us discuss the guns in the stores. I would recommend the P320, S&W shield+, S&E compact, CZ P10C and a gen 5 Glock without hesitation. It is the golden age of guns. I prefer the 1911 grip angle, but that is for myself.
I still feel bad for all the guys purchasing them during the pandemic. I remember the days where Smith and Wesson always had a rebate. I picked up the full size M&P 2.0 at $370ish after rebates. The CZ P10C was around $400 as well. Now the standard M&P 2.0 (full size, compact, and subcompact) is at least $550 around me in the Jacksonville area. The CZ P10F (haven't seen a P10C) is at least $500. These guns are still worth it at those prices, but I still miss the cheaper prices. Hopefully the prices comes back down when everything goes back to normal.
I just got myself a m&P 2.0 Compact!!! Its been a struggle to find it anywhere because it was getting sold out from left to right. Time to hit the range!
Great review. Looking forward to getting the S&W Compact. I enjoy your reviews. Just one flub to point out. 4:40 Referencing the mag well on the S&W but showing the CZ magazine.
I picked up a P10c months before this video after renting and testing out 7 different similar sized 9mm pistols - the M&P came in 2nd place. There was zero difference in cost where I live. The Glock came in dead last in my testing. Now I do understand the utility of the Glock, especially the proliferation of their magazines, but their weapons are not as ergonomic nor price competitive.
@Nick R thanks for passing that info on I am looking at this and the CZ P10C leaning towards the S&W M&P2.0C and this price with Veteran's discount from Buds is seriously outstanding. I guess I'm going with Buds and S&W.
@@billlemons6205 The Shield 2.0 is not the same gun as the M&P Compact 2.0. The shield is the sub-compact version of the M&P Compact 2.0. I purchased the Shield 2.0 first because I loved the grip and wanted it as my concealed carry gun. However, when I discovered the M&P Compact held 15 rounds and was still easily concealed I jumped all over it. I had an after market Apex trigger installed on my Compact and it was fantastic. It wasn't cheap but it was definitely worth it.
David Jenkins - Smith & Wesson Precision Components manufactures the parts for this pistol which are then shipped to S&W for final assembly. The components are made in SWPC Plastics 12 Bridge Street Deep River, CT 06417 860.526.3200 SWPC Metals 2100 Roosevelt Ave. Springfield, MA 01102 Douchebag!
That's why I chose it. That, and I had experience with the S&W Shield so I was already familiar with most of the design elements. Great pistol though. I couldn't be happier.
I love the 2.0 Compact. Cant wait for the weather to cool off so that my attire will allow me to carry it more often instead of one of my single stacks. I've got close to 1000 rounds through it without a single malfunction. Just a great shooting gun. Throw in a Apex trigger and its near perfection.
Thanks for the great information! Will be purchasing one of these two soon and it seems that it is a toss up. Just as a note though, while shopping I put the full size 2.0 and compact 2.0 side by side and was surprised by how little difference in size there really was.
Have had 2.0 for a couple years and have 0 complaints with it. Have fired around 1500 rounds with no malfunctions of any kind. It is very hard to move or adjust the rear sight if need be. That is only negative I can think of. Sights were close to dead on right out of box.
I walked into a local gun store to purchase the CZ P10C and surprisingly walked out with the M&P 2.0. It wasn’t even a close call. I normally take forever to make a decision. Not this time, and my wife was there to witness it. 👍👍 to S&W for providing a product that makes decision making easier. Neither one of us liked the P10C.
Add a lifetime warrantee and spare parts availability plus a wide variety of replacement sights make the S&W M&P 2.0 compact a better choice, not to mention a host of issues that are now surfacing in regards to the CZ P-210C!
I Love My Full Size M&P M2.0 For The Following Reasons: 1) I Can Easily Conceal It On Me (Probably Because Of My Body Type) Any Time Of The Year. 2) It's Easy To Disassemble (2 Ways To Disassemble). 3) 17 + 1 Ammo Capacity. 4) The Grip (Talon Grips) 5) The Low Recoil. 6) Light Weight When Loaded For A Full Size Gun. 7) Smith And Wesson Is One Of My Favorite Brands (There's Other Brands That I Like). 8) The Sights (Ameriglo I Dot Sights); The Original Sights Lost Their Paint. 9) The Trigger (Apex Action Enhanced Duty Trigger); I Don't Like The OEM Trigger Shoe. 10) Loaded Chamber Indicator. 11) No Manual Thumb Safety (I Hate Thumb Safeties). 12) You Can Easily Repair Anything On The Gun (If It Needs Repair And You Can Find The Part). 13) It's A Very Reliable Gun (I Have Not Had A Malfunction Yet). 14) It's Made In America (Some Of My Favorite Brands Are Made In Other Countries And Some Of My Least Favorite Brands Are Made In America). I Also Like The Following Brands: 1) CZ Firearms. 2) Dan Wesson Firearms. 3) Most Sig Sauer Firearms. 4) Glocks. 5) Some Ruger Firearms. 6) Brazilian Made Taurus Firearms. 7) Colt. 8) Heckler And Kock. 9) Palmetto State Armory (I Own One Of Their Uppers). 10) Windham Weaponry (I Own One Of Their AR-15s). 11) Daniel Defense. 12) Knights Armament. 13) ArmaLite. 14) Beretta. 15) Barrett. 16) FN Hershal. 17) Old Springfields. 18) Henry. 19) Winchester. 20) Browning. 21) Shadow Systems. 22) Polymer80. 23) Zev. 24) Wilson Combat. I Hate (Despise Of) The Following Brands: 1) Hi Point. 2) Sccy.
I like the P10 better but for the $20 for lifetime warranty id have to go for the M&P however warranty doesn't mean it covers wear and tear just defects
How much more for the canted sights on the S&W. S&W Auto loaders & Revolvers...canted sights, clocked barrels, crooked triggers. I’ve been none to impressed with S&W quality control, as of late.
@@savagereloader6699 your comment reminds me of when Sony didn't want to fix my PS3 DualShock controller when I was in elementary school. The controller was a little over 2 months old and one of the sticks started getting stuck to one side. Sony said it was wear and tear so I was stuck playing with that controller until Christmas.
I love the 2.0 compact. That grip texture is awesome, but yeah it's brutal on bare skin if you're carrying. I would almost recommend putting a rubberized Talon grip on it if it's going to be your everyday carry.
No body points out CZ mags fit and feed reliably in the M&P 2.0 compact. And you can simply slide the slide catch decent out and it will work for 1.0 slides and also allow the slam home feature as the P10c has.
Thanks Sootch! Looks like you have had as much rain as we have, my favorite range is inaccessible because of high water. I was looking for a P-10c last year and never could find one in stock, so I picked up one of the M&P 2.0 Compact last fall. Really like it and it fits the standard M&P holsters, but recessed 1/4 inch at the muzzle. The near circular trigger bugs me a bit, and isn't as good as the one on my Shield, an aftermarket one from Apex will fix that.
I just picked up the M&P2.0 compact in 9mm. It was between that and the Glock 19. I dislike the Glock even though I own a couple, but there is no denying their record. I found the M&P for a great deal and that made the decision for me. I'm happy with it
I am a retired LEO. I was issued a Glock and loved them. I bought a new S/W 9mm EZ from Cabelas on sale for $315.00 ! iT WAS $70.00 on sale for from a price of $419.00. Then another $20.00 of if I took out there Credit card. Then another 5% of for being a veteran. What a deal for a fantastic weapon! I'm up in age and what a pleasure to rack this weapon with my arthritis hands ! S/W has a lot of great weapons and the EZ is great. Now..I'm a S/W fan and a Glock is not # 1 one my list.
Nice VS video, excelent qulity as usual. Thanks Scootch00. Only one thing P10C is not first striker for CZ, I beleave other guys already told so:D. CZ 100 adn CZ110 was on early 2000. regards from Cech:).
The M2.0 line overall is outstanding. My M2.0 Compact 9mm has been excellent. M2.0 prices are very low and M&P mag prices are very good and you can find them. I loce CZ handguns and own an Sp01 Tactical, RAMI BD 9mm and P07 9mm. The P10C has had some troubles and I think the design may even need some rework. The M2.0 wins for me.
I have a bunch of M&P 2.0 pistols and still havent had a malfunction after thousands of rounds. I didnt know the P 10c had a polymer guide rod. That is a concern for me but I like my M&P's anyway. Great video (2nd time , lol)
I own and really like both of these pistols, but if I could choose only one, it would be the M&P. The recently recognized "failure to return to battery" problem with the CZ P-10c is something I was able to manually replicate on my own CZ. Even setting aside that potential problem, the "feel in hand" ergonomics of the M&P are probably the best I've ever experienced on any handgun. Install an Apex trigger and you have what is probably the closest we've seen to the "perfect" all-around pistol. It is really that good.
Really? Ever try a PPQ, VP9 or P30? I love the M2 and plan on getting one as a truck gun for it’s unbeatable price but it’s definitely right behind in the grip department of those guns I just mentioned IMO.
I cant get enough of shooting my 2.0 compact. And been on some cheap ammo. I did adjust the rear sight and its absolulety straight even on cheap 115gr. I actually like the trigger. I have the "ml" grips and sometimes i do have to really set the mag in to get a lock. Thinking about sanding down the square notch from the grip just a hair cause it doesnt happen with the small grips
I have a smattering of hammer and striker fire pistols, in various sizes, but I prefer hammer and double-action types. However, for concealment I've been carrying a Sig P-320 XL (sub-compact), which I am very happy with...but I don't consider it to be a very good range pistol. Honestly, I would prefer to carry my full-size Berettas or Sigs or 1911s, but I cannot conceal carry them. Open - sure, concealed - like trying to conceal an AR-15 IMO. So I thought that a compact pistol (3.9 - 4.0 inch barrel) would fit the bill for a nice range/conceal combo weapon. Not to long ago I was considering a CZ P-07 vs CZ P10 C...and just happened to come across a P07 at a gunshow for a terrific price. But just the other day I was considering a P10 C vs M&P 2.0 Compact for the missus. I bought her a M&P Shield Plus, but she didn't like, but she loved the M&P Shield EZ (much easier to rack and the barrel is 1/2" longer. I don't blame her because, while the Shield Plus is comfortable in the hand, I too didn't enjoy shooting it at the range. Anyway, I put my hands on a M2.0 Compact the other day and we both loved it. So that's her compact carry. To be honest, as much as I love the CZ P-07...the M2.0 Compact was pretty sweet. So I enjoy the comparison and I've decided to also get the P-10 C. What the hell...we love nice guns. Enjoyed the comparison.
They really just want to piss you off 😁. As always very thorough presentations. But since money is going to be tight for a long time no new gun purchases for me. If I could I'm torn on what I would pick between what you shared. Both are definitely worth keeping on my long term radar. Thanks so much Don for sharing your impressions.
sootch00..... Thank you Don. I just got in over my head financially so I have to remain more responsible and prioritize what is most important in my spending habits.
I just picked up the CZ P10C suppressor ready model for $499. I love shooting suppressed, so I bought that instead of putting a $200 threaded barrel and $100 suppressor sights on my M&P. Best part is I now have them both!
I own the mp9 2.0 and LOVE it. Best pistol I've ever shot. Never shot a cz before but always wanted to. I don't think you can go wrong with either choice.
The CZ is a really nice pistol.. I'm looking to add one to my lineup. The m&p m2.0 compact is also a really good one. I paid 309.99 for mine new pre-covid, was about $350 otd. Mine came with night sights, 3 mags, and the manual safety which I've removed and installed the factory frame plugs. I've put 500-550 rounds through mine. It's accurate, and broken in the trigger is pretty nice so no real need to upgrade. I did put a rubberized talon grip on mine for cc which I'd highly recommend. I put the same type grip on all my guns so the grip feel is similar in my hand.
which one (and any other you can suggest) has the smaller grip, shorter distance to the trigger for my wifes small hands ? and less recoil. she's new at shooting and trying to get her to shoot handguns more over our .223 Savage bolt. i got a gp qs1 but thought the grip is so small, I didn't notice the distance to the trigger was longer than a 1911.
I don’t have a caliper but the MP comes with 4 total grips and each one changes the feel of the gun dramatically. Swapping them out can be done in seconds. I dont have a p10c but the 2.0 with the small grip would likely fit her needs.
I like the slide rail support better on the m&p, that is very important to the longevity of the pistol, the feed ramp also looked narrower on cz, which makes me think it might be pickier on ammo
Jimmy Kimber I regret selling my m1 ppq. Great gun. You will like the P10c if you get one. I still have P10c and 2.0c. Apex trigger on the 2.0 is a game changer.
Jeffrey Woodall yeah i may get one. The ppq is my fav so far. I think its terribly underrated for the most part. everyday i look at the ppq, g19 and mp 2.0 and im like IDK i just want to carry them all. haha. Agree on apex have them in my G1 m&ps. I’ll have to maybe see if a range has a cz for rental and consider it.
I really love my P-10c, my biggest complaint is that no major sight manufacture makes sights for it. So no Truglo, Trijicon or the like. Most are from CZ customs and Cajun Gun Works and for the most part are lacking. I've gotten so used to my Truglo TFX sights that I was saddened that they don't make them for the P-10c nor do they seem to be even considering making sights for the P-10c. Also to remove the back straps on the P-10c is a pain, it uses a 2mm pin to hold the back strap in place and it's a long one so make sure your punch is long enough. I had to use an old 5/64 drill bit to do the job. Otherwise the P-10c is a great handgun, I love to shoot it.
I will have to say that 3 years later I am still carrying my P10c. I did find some great sights from Night Fission and upgraded the trigger shoe with one from HB Industries, their flat face model. I then added a rubber Talon grip, which I do on all by handguns. All in all I have 1000's of rounds shot through this excellent handgun and it's still going strong. I do wish the magazines were a little cheaper and easier to find but have made due to buying them when I do find them for sale.
I love both of these but have really been taken in by the new M&P 2.0's. I love the aggressive grips and these two IMO have the best grips on the market. I think the M&P has an advantage as far as price, I've gotten all 3 of my 2.0's for well under $450. In contrast I paid over $500 for the CZ but it is definitely worth it. This is a tough choice but considering all factors of the pistols and the price I would choose the M&P. If price was not a factor I might choose the CZ. Another awesome video brother, you always bring the goods. Also, Congrats on surpassing 600K subs!!
fumasterchu12 Agreed on the m&p 2.0! Never thought I'd own one, but I couldn't resist the 5" 9mm model in flat dark earth new for $439. What a great shooting handsome rugged pistol. Great trigger! Feels amazing in the hand. Beefed up rails. Already have had it to range about a dozen times. Cream puff to shoot. No malfunctions of any kind. Might be the best value for the dollar for the pistol Market at the moment!
Absolutely, I chose the M&P 2.0 as my best new pistol of 2017. I also caught some flak over it, but it's just my opinion. I love these pistols, great shooters and perfect reliability so far.
fumasterchu12 haha. I've caught some Flak over it as well. Pretty much everyone I work with at the jail is a Glock person. I own a Glock as well and think it's a fine gun. However, after spending time with the M&P 2.0, there's really no denying it's the better pistol. I've let a few of my friend shoot it at the range, and they've all liked it quite a bit and can't believe how much improved the trigger is over the old model
I just purchased the M&P 2.0 and I love it. I was sold the first time I gripped the M&P. The grip makes it feel like the gun is part of you. I quit using my Glock 19--it's a good gun but it's not the M&P. The CZ appears to be a quality firearm, but after using the M&P there is no need for me to shop for another concealed carry gun. Great video and a fair comparison between the two guns. Thanks!
I own both and the grip texture on the m&p is superior. The triggers are completely different but the m&P 2.0's trigger is underrated and the CZ's trigger is overrated. I like the trigger guard on the CZ better and the weight. The grip for the CZ is just as long as my 17 round m&p but only holds 15 rounds.
I think a big bonus with the new M&P is that it can use the magazines from the "old" M&P9 that has been around so long. Magazines can get expensive M&P $25/Ea and CzP10c $32/Ea
I was under the impression that the M&P magazine pieces were for asthesics. Also didn't know you could over insert a double stack taper mag. I knew is was an issue with single stack jobs popular with 1911s.
I had been looking into the p10-c for the past year, and the M&p for the last few months. After a lot of back and fourth I finally decided to order the M&P9 2.0 compact. 369.99 on sale from sportsman’s outdoor superstore. Picking it up this week and I can’t freakin wait. P.S. you just earned a subscriber man, great video! Watched this 5 min after I ordered mine, and this video made me glad I did!
One of the things that made me pick the Smith and Wesson compact was the fact that there was a lot of play in the slide at the front on the CZ also my CZ had a couple of problems along the way the spring and the pin for the trigger were coming out that is not good I’m sure they corrected it but they had a similar problem on the P07 duty model and it just looked redundant to me because I had that as well so the Smith and Wesson was hands-down the winter and the Trigger is definitely more than good enough and good enough not to change I am comfortable with it through and through
so due to being left and right handed glock and sig have been perfect but, since I tried out the other man!!! I may be picking up some different guns to shoot&have. thanks for all you do&have done sootch!!! your channels, reviews/comparisons, and vids have helped me so much in choosing parts, supplies, firearms etc. also you've inspired me to try new things and check them out rather then not ever giving them a chance. I mean worst case you don't like it or want to keep it you can always trade, or sell for something else. But again thank you very much brother! I appreciate it greatly and I'm sure others have as well👍take care, stay safe, god bless and long live the republic🇺🇸🇺🇸🔫🔫🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great review Sootch. I think I'm leaning towards the S&W. Is there a Ruger Security 9 review coming? Would love to hear your thoughts on this new high value pistol.
My money doesn't support companies in anti-2A states such as S&W (MA), Surefire (CA), Springfield Armory & RRA (IL), Spike's Tactical (FL) and so on. Think pragmatically - not emotionally. I love America too but Constitutional Principles are non-negotiable and therefore they are not subject to patriotic ambiguity. Stay classy my friends.
@sootch00 the M&P might have a better slide release, but the CZ has a slam release, so if you “slam” (when I say slam it’s really not that hard just a little harder than normal) the magazine into the weapon the slide will automatically release and drop
Mine doesn't slam release, and the slide release is nearly impossible for a normal human to activate with the thumb, on my gun anyway, so you may be left with only the slingshot method!!! There may be some adjustments I could make to the springs, but I don't carry it so won't bother trying. Just another data point.
went to my LGS other day and had my ameriglo agent sights installed onto my glock 22 due to me not having my sight tools & pusher yet. but I have always stuck to and went with glock due to me being so used&comfortable with and to them! but I checked out a few of the caniks tp9 and tp9sf and the elite, a few cz's the p10c, the p07,&p09 also the cz rami, then I checked out an m&p9 and a few other m&ps and the 2.0. I knew I already like and loved my glocks&Sig Sauers. But man those cz, Walters, and caniks felt pretty good in the hand/hands. I shoot both handed very well and accurately. but with rifles&shotguns I mainly shoot right handed. but I'm weird and can see and use both eyes.
I love my M&P Shield. Great trigger. Great shooter. Great accuracy. I live in Northern Illinois . I travel between Chicago and southern Wisconsin. I have had no problems with it. It is my concealed carry. Reasonably priced for Illinois. Good firearm.
Great video as always. I would like to see the walther ppq m2 in 9mm in the comparison also to see all 3. The walther may be a little bigger but still a good firearm.
There aren't quite as many sight options for the P10-C as the M&P. Hopefully that will change. For the slide release on the P10-C I find if you use the thumb of the hand inserting the magazine to hit the release it can give you a bit more leverage.
I held a P10F at LGS, haven't held or shot the P10C yet but the F grip was overly aggressive IMO. Ended up buying M&P 2.0C 4" and very happy with it. Might revisit P10C some day as it's very reasonably priced but until then, VP9 will prob be my next buy
...completely different gun than the Shield ... and on both replace trigger with an APEX and never look back ... at this time the Shield has come out with the Shield Plus ..another good option ..
I like both guns, I do prefer the CZ guns over any other guns I have hands down. The triggers on the CZ are second to none from my personal perspective. You cant go wrong with either of these guns like you said.
Great review as always. I went with the CZ after shooting both pistols. The CZ just felt right and is a great shooter.
I know S&W makes excellent firearms. It just comes down to the individual taste.
Your gun reviews are just absolutely excellent. Detailed, fast and descriptive. Good enough that someone could buy with confidence.
Excellent review! I've had the P-10C for a little while and absolutely love it. Just picked up the M&P 2.0 9mm compact and haven't had a chance to take it out yet. However, so far I love everything about the M&P. Big fan of both CZ and S&W.
My family and I were in Louisville, KY for a week in preparation for our oldest son's wedding. During that week, I was able to get away with the Mrs. and take her to a local firearms store and pistol range (no names, please). We were able to check out the CZ P-10C and the M&P 2.0 (I think the M&P was the full size) at the range. Let me tell you this much . . . BOTH pistols are well worthy of your consideration if you're in the market for a polymer frame striker fire pistol. Which did I prefer? The CZ P-10C because of the ergonomic grip and the trigger. With enough ammo at my disposal, I could've killed all the zombies in Louisville at 7 yards without even breaking into a sweat . . . provided I could have someone feed me loaded magazines.
I bought an MP 2.0 compact yesterday and went an shot it I must say it's one of the best pistols if not the best I've ever shot
Love your reviews.. almost as much as I love my CZ! Picked up a speed loader like you use.. that thing is a life saver (and thumb) at the range!
Man glock needs to get their prices down. The only thing going for glock over the competition at this point is magazine availability, and that definately doesn't justify the price of a glock.
Scurvy McGruff yea at the most they should be 400 bucks. Still love my Glocks
b brady Me too.
Yeah their reliable but their losing a lot of customers at this point.
Scurvy McGruff Dont forget there lack of innovation.
Ain't that the truth!
I'm a CZ owner and have had a very positive experience with it. Sweet shooter.
I love my CZP10F
Im a owner of the MP 9C only because i walked into RK and they had them with night sights and 3 mags for $309, but it keeps my MP shield company.
Great review! I ended up buying the M&P, quality is excellent but the trigger felt very mushy. I switched it out with an Apex flat trigger and now it's unbelievable. And swapped out the sights for trijicon HD XR. It's now super accurate and I feel that Apex trigger should be a standard option, it's so good.
Lol all those upgrades just to match the features on a stock p10c. 🤣
I really enjoyed the opening clips showing a direct comparison of firing in almost identical angles and stances.
Two guns I highly recommend. In these crazy Covid19 times, if either of these are in stock, you can buy with confidence.
I want to emphasize this. Folks, if either are available, buy with confidence. I would add the P320, PPQ, and VP9. The two in this link are great choices!!!
@@External2737 the p320 that has been shooting for no reason?
@@dizgroontled That was one rare drop angle that was fixed with the skeletonized striker years ago. Shall we rate the all Glocks off the Gen4 9mm? One of my friends failed them for a Sheriff's department. There is a reason the FBI insisted on Gen 5 and Glock quietly upgraded the Gen4. More than one Sheriff's department failed the Gen 4.
Let us discuss the guns in the stores. I would recommend the P320, S&W shield+, S&E compact, CZ P10C and a gen 5 Glock without hesitation.
It is the golden age of guns. I prefer the 1911 grip angle, but that is for myself.
@@External2737 nah they still having problems with them. It was more than a drop angle it was firing coming in or out of the holster
I still feel bad for all the guys purchasing them during the pandemic. I remember the days where Smith and Wesson always had a rebate. I picked up the full size M&P 2.0 at $370ish after rebates. The CZ P10C was around $400 as well. Now the standard M&P 2.0 (full size, compact, and subcompact) is at least $550 around me in the Jacksonville area. The CZ P10F (haven't seen a P10C) is at least $500. These guns are still worth it at those prices, but I still miss the cheaper prices. Hopefully the prices comes back down when everything goes back to normal.
Ive seen the smiths going for 399 at some places online, great gun for the money
I fell in love with the 2.0 as soon as I got it in my hand, sweet pistol
I just got myself a m&P 2.0 Compact!!! Its been a struggle to find it anywhere because it was getting sold out from left to right. Time to hit the range!
Great review. Looking forward to getting the S&W Compact. I enjoy your reviews. Just one flub to point out. 4:40 Referencing the mag well on the S&W but showing the CZ magazine.
Tony Dorschner Glad I wasn't the only one to notice that haha
God Bless America, Long Live the Republic.... by far my favorite sign off of all time
Thanks Mango!
I think so too! 😀👍🏻
I have both and love both. I got the czp10c last month for 349 at buds.
Where's Buds?
I picked up a P10c months before this video after renting and testing out 7 different similar sized 9mm pistols - the M&P came in 2nd place. There was zero difference in cost where I live. The Glock came in dead last in my testing. Now I do understand the utility of the Glock, especially the proliferation of their magazines, but their weapons are not as ergonomic nor price competitive.
You can find the 2.0 Compact for ~ $400 shipped if you look around.
Murphy82nd bought my 2.0 compact for $406.99 shipped to FFL from grabagun.com
Keep your Shield,everyone should own one.
But still get he Compact 2.0, you'll be glad you did.
My local gun shop has them for 430$ and g 19 is 550
@Nick R thanks for passing that info on I am looking at this and the CZ P10C leaning towards the S&W M&P2.0C and this price with Veteran's discount from Buds is seriously outstanding. I guess I'm going with Buds and S&W.
Just got m&p 40 at Atwood's for 299.99 new
By the way, I paid $389 (not including tax) for my M&P 2.0 9mm from Grab A Gun. Now that's a great deal!
p10 was 349.99. I'll be picking up that M&P when the FDE model is 379.99. If I love my shield, I assume I'll love that.
Goes for 318 now lol
Goes for 486 now
Is it the same as a Shield 2.0? The compact
@@billlemons6205 The Shield 2.0 is not the same gun as the M&P Compact 2.0. The shield is the sub-compact version of the M&P Compact 2.0. I purchased the Shield 2.0 first because I loved the grip and wanted it as my concealed carry gun. However, when I discovered the M&P Compact held 15 rounds and was still easily concealed I jumped all over it. I had an after market Apex trigger installed on my Compact and it was fantastic. It wasn't cheap but it was definitely worth it.
Went to the gun store planning to buy a P320. Walked out with the M&P 2.0 compact. It doesn't have a PPQ trigger, but it's pretty good.
M&P made in the USA and lifetime warranty!
WRONG!!! Try Croatia.
David Jenkins - Smith & Wesson Precision Components manufactures the parts for this pistol which are then shipped to S&W for final assembly. The components are made in SWPC Plastics
12 Bridge Street
Deep River, CT 06417
860.526.3200
SWPC Metals
2100 Roosevelt Ave.
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Douchebag!
That's why I chose it. That, and I had experience with the S&W Shield so I was already familiar with most of the design elements. Great pistol though. I couldn't be happier.
@@davidjenkins6634 Croatia? I believe you’re talking about the Springfield XD
@@cvshav Yeah, but I love my XDM 3.8 45c. Love both of these two pistols tho
Got both Shield and Compact S&W 2.0. Can't beat em for the quality and price.
Probability the best and most informative reviews I have seen on these 2 pistols, I really enjoyed watching that, thank you
I love the 2.0 Compact. Cant wait for the weather to cool off so that my attire will allow me to carry it more often instead of one of my single stacks. I've got close to 1000 rounds through it without a single malfunction. Just a great shooting gun. Throw in a Apex trigger and its near perfection.
Just bought me the U.S. made CZp10C optics ready version.. Lovin it!
Trigger is phenomenal 👌
J S Enjoy brother. I really like mine .
J S Enjoy brother. I really like mine .
Thanks for the great information! Will be purchasing one of these two soon and it seems that it is a toss up. Just as a note though, while shopping I put the full size 2.0 and compact 2.0 side by side and was surprised by how little difference in size there really was.
As a heads up - the factory sights on the P-10C are aluminum, not steel.
The painted luminescent ones are aluminum. My tritium night sights are steel
Depends on which model you have. The guns worth actual factory tritium night sights are steel. The early ones came with the luminescent aluminum ones.
Still better than polymer.
*Deciding to purchase my first compact pistol (as I wish to get my ccw permit this year). It HAS to be the M&P 2.0 COMPACT.* 👁️
Danmandingo awesome man. Be safe
Have had 2.0 for a couple years and have 0 complaints with it. Have fired around 1500 rounds with no malfunctions of any kind. It is very hard to move or adjust the rear sight if need be. That is only negative I can think of. Sights were close to dead on right out of box.
I walked into a local gun store to purchase the CZ P10C and surprisingly walked out with the M&P 2.0. It wasn’t even a close call. I normally take forever to make a decision. Not this time, and my wife was there to witness it. 👍👍 to S&W for providing a product that makes decision making easier. Neither one of us liked the P10C.
Both nice, but the M&P is just a sweet pistol!
Picked one up last week. Can’t put it down🔥😍
Add a lifetime warrantee and spare parts availability plus a wide variety of replacement sights make the S&W M&P 2.0 compact a better choice, not to mention a host of issues that are now surfacing in regards to the CZ P-210C!
@@TheGV50 ^ correct, it's another reason why I bought two of the Smith's One 4'' *....one 4.25''.
Only if cz had a lever take down.
Love mine. Put in the apex duty flat trigger (Huge Improvment), Trijicon HDs and a faxon barrel. 0 failures out of thousands of rounds.
M2.0 compact plus, Apex Duty flat trigger and Trijicon HDs is perfection for me.
Love your reviews brother! Some of the best on RUclips!
Both pistols are very nice. I’m seriously considering the Cz for my next one.
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yes sadly they are leaving Kansas.
I hope they enjoy Meth and property crime. Welcome to Arkansas.
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I Love My Full Size M&P M2.0 For The Following Reasons:
1) I Can Easily Conceal It On Me (Probably Because Of My Body Type) Any Time Of The Year.
2) It's Easy To Disassemble (2 Ways To Disassemble).
3) 17 + 1 Ammo Capacity.
4) The Grip (Talon Grips)
5) The Low Recoil.
6) Light Weight When Loaded For A Full Size Gun.
7) Smith And Wesson Is One Of My Favorite Brands (There's Other Brands That I Like).
8) The Sights (Ameriglo I Dot Sights); The Original Sights Lost Their Paint.
9) The Trigger (Apex Action Enhanced Duty Trigger); I Don't Like The OEM Trigger Shoe.
10) Loaded Chamber Indicator.
11) No Manual Thumb Safety (I Hate Thumb Safeties).
12) You Can Easily Repair Anything On The Gun (If It Needs Repair And You Can Find The Part).
13) It's A Very Reliable Gun (I Have Not Had A Malfunction Yet).
14) It's Made In America (Some Of My Favorite Brands Are Made In Other Countries And Some Of My Least Favorite Brands Are Made In America).
I Also Like The Following Brands:
1) CZ Firearms.
2) Dan Wesson Firearms.
3) Most Sig Sauer Firearms.
4) Glocks.
5) Some Ruger Firearms.
6) Brazilian Made Taurus Firearms.
7) Colt.
8) Heckler And Kock.
9) Palmetto State Armory (I Own One Of Their Uppers).
10) Windham Weaponry (I Own One Of Their AR-15s).
11) Daniel Defense.
12) Knights Armament.
13) ArmaLite.
14) Beretta.
15) Barrett.
16) FN Hershal.
17) Old Springfields.
18) Henry.
19) Winchester.
20) Browning.
21) Shadow Systems.
22) Polymer80.
23) Zev.
24) Wilson Combat.
I Hate (Despise Of) The Following Brands:
1) Hi Point.
2) Sccy.
$20 bucks more and a lifetime warranty for the M&P.
I like the P10 better but for the $20 for lifetime warranty id have to go for the M&P however warranty doesn't mean it covers wear and tear just defects
How much more for the canted sights on the S&W.
S&W Auto loaders & Revolvers...canted sights, clocked barrels, crooked triggers.
I’ve been none to impressed with S&W quality control, as of late.
@@savagereloader6699 your comment reminds me of when Sony didn't want to fix my PS3 DualShock controller when I was in elementary school. The controller was a little over 2 months old and one of the sticks started getting stuck to one side. Sony said it was wear and tear so I was stuck playing with that controller until Christmas.
I love the 2.0 compact. That grip texture is awesome, but yeah it's brutal on bare skin if you're carrying. I would almost recommend putting a rubberized Talon grip on it if it's going to be your everyday carry.
No body points out CZ mags fit and feed reliably in the M&P 2.0 compact. And you can simply slide the slide catch decent out and it will work for 1.0 slides and also allow the slam home feature as the P10c has.
for some reason, the gun shots in your videos sound so much better than other folks videos.
Thanks Sootch! Looks like you have had as much rain as we have, my favorite range is inaccessible because of high water.
I was looking for a P-10c last year and never could find one in stock, so I picked up one of the M&P 2.0 Compact last fall. Really like it and it fits the standard M&P holsters, but recessed 1/4 inch at the muzzle. The near circular trigger bugs me a bit, and isn't as good as the one on my Shield, an aftermarket one from Apex will fix that.
The trigger on my M&P 2 was gritty and heavy. It really antagonized accuracy. Had to install an Apex unit. Now it shoots like a dream.
Very well done comparison. Both great options, have over 1,000 rounds through each and feel you can’t go wrong with either. 👍
I concur. Don't have that many rounds thru mine yet, but I really do like both. I may change the trigger on the M&P and that is about it.
Thanks Brother! The best choice is both no doubt! Lol!
Love your video! Can't wait for my CZ P10C to come in.
Great comparison! Picking up the 2.0 compact real soon! It’s a great shooter!
I just picked up the M&P2.0 compact in 9mm. It was between that and the Glock 19. I dislike the Glock even though I own a couple, but there is no denying their record. I found the M&P for a great deal and that made the decision for me. I'm happy with it
I am a retired LEO. I was issued a Glock and loved them. I bought a new S/W 9mm EZ from Cabelas on sale for $315.00 ! iT WAS $70.00 on sale for from a price of $419.00. Then another $20.00 of if I took out there Credit card. Then another 5% of for being a veteran. What a deal for a fantastic weapon! I'm up in age and what a pleasure to rack this weapon with my arthritis hands ! S/W has a lot of great weapons and the EZ is great. Now..I'm a S/W fan and a Glock is not # 1 one my list.
Nice VS video, excelent qulity as usual. Thanks Scootch00. Only one thing P10C is not first striker for CZ, I beleave other guys already told so:D. CZ 100 adn CZ110 was on early 2000.
regards from Cech:).
Thanks for the video - both are fantastic options however, the M&P is the softer shooter, it’s just feels better to shoot.
I really liked the M&P 2.0 Compact when I shot it, loved the texturing! Your hands just stay put and don’t move when shooting.
The M2.0 line overall is outstanding. My M2.0 Compact 9mm has been excellent. M2.0 prices are very low and M&P mag prices are very good and you can find them. I loce CZ handguns and own an Sp01 Tactical, RAMI BD 9mm and P07 9mm. The P10C has had some troubles and I think the design may even need some rework. The M2.0 wins for me.
I have a bunch of M&P 2.0 pistols and still havent had a malfunction after thousands of rounds. I didnt know the P 10c had a polymer guide rod. That is a concern for me but I like my M&P's anyway. Great video (2nd time , lol)
At this point, I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a stainless steel recoil guide rod available for the CZ.
Top notch video. Thanks for all of your great work. I can always count on your channel.
I own and really like both of these pistols, but if I could choose only one, it would be the M&P. The recently recognized "failure to return to battery" problem with the CZ P-10c is something I was able to manually replicate on my own CZ. Even setting aside that potential problem, the "feel in hand" ergonomics of the M&P are probably the best I've ever experienced on any handgun. Install an Apex trigger and you have what is probably the closest we've seen to the "perfect" all-around pistol. It is really that good.
Mark Gough couldn't agree more. my p10c threaded is for sale now. CZ throat might as well have been cut for 9mm Kurz. They're QC is a joke.
You're spot on! The grip on the M&P is simply the best of any gun out there. Purchasing the M&P is one of the best decisions I ever made.
Really? Ever try a PPQ, VP9 or P30? I love the M2 and plan on getting one as a truck gun for it’s unbeatable price but it’s definitely right behind in the grip department of those guns I just mentioned IMO.
@@Berserkable I have the VP9 and its an unbelievable shooter. Great ergos. I'm still planning on a M&P 2.0 compact w/Apex trigger though.
I cant get enough of shooting my 2.0 compact. And been on some cheap ammo. I did adjust the rear sight and its absolulety straight even on cheap 115gr. I actually like the trigger. I have the "ml" grips and sometimes i do have to really set the mag in to get a lock. Thinking about sanding down the square notch from the grip just a hair cause it doesnt happen with the small grips
I have a smattering of hammer and striker fire pistols, in various sizes, but I prefer hammer and double-action types. However, for concealment I've been carrying a Sig P-320 XL (sub-compact), which I am very happy with...but I don't consider it to be a very good range pistol. Honestly, I would prefer to carry my full-size Berettas or Sigs or 1911s, but I cannot conceal carry them. Open - sure, concealed - like trying to conceal an AR-15 IMO.
So I thought that a compact pistol (3.9 - 4.0 inch barrel) would fit the bill for a nice range/conceal combo weapon. Not to long ago I was considering a CZ P-07 vs CZ P10 C...and just happened to come across a P07 at a gunshow for a terrific price. But just the other day I was considering a P10 C vs M&P 2.0 Compact for the missus. I bought her a M&P Shield Plus, but she didn't like, but she loved the M&P Shield EZ (much easier to rack and the barrel is 1/2" longer. I don't blame her because, while the Shield Plus is comfortable in the hand, I too didn't enjoy shooting it at the range. Anyway, I put my hands on a M2.0 Compact the other day and we both loved it. So that's her compact carry. To be honest, as much as I love the CZ P-07...the M2.0 Compact was pretty sweet. So I enjoy the comparison and I've decided to also get the P-10 C. What the hell...we love nice guns. Enjoyed the comparison.
They really just want to piss you off 😁. As always very thorough presentations. But since money is going to be tight for a long time no new gun purchases for me. If I could I'm torn on what I would pick between what you shared. Both are definitely worth keeping on my long term radar. Thanks so much Don for sharing your impressions.
Lol! Thanks David! If I had to pick one, it would be a hard decision. Hope things turn around my friend.
sootch00..... Thank you Don. I just got in over my head financially so I have to remain more responsible and prioritize what is most important in my spending habits.
sootch00 cheers buddy just subscribed to your very thorough presentation on firearms good content👍
Went to a gun show, picked up both hated the CZ P10c feel in hand but loved the M&P 2.0 Compact’s stippled grip especially for $400.
I have both of these pistols and they are awesome. The Sw mp 2.0c has the better grip but the trigger is better on the cz p10c.
Very good review. I bought one of the S&W myself. Great pistol.
I just picked up the CZ P10C suppressor ready model for $499. I love shooting suppressed, so I bought that instead of putting a $200 threaded barrel and $100 suppressor sights on my M&P. Best part is I now have them both!
Ruger Security 9 for me! Plus mucho $$$ left over for ammo and groceries. Very adequately protected.
Taylor Howell I may have to agree. I've got it down to either the ruger or the Smith. Would love to see scootch do a Ruger video.
M2.0 compact is going online for 350$
Hearshotkid Disaster Do you have a link please?
Hearshotkid Disaster I paid 520 from my local gun store about 3 weeks ago . And people scream support your local gun stores smh never again
CO Gunner , I understand what you are saying, but if the local gun stores goes out of business, where would you do the transfer?
I love my p10c, both are great guns.
I own the mp9 2.0 and LOVE it. Best pistol I've ever shot. Never shot a cz before but always wanted to. I don't think you can go wrong with either choice.
Nice review as always. I love my MP 2.0 compact
The CZ is a really nice pistol.. I'm looking to add one to my lineup. The m&p m2.0 compact is also a really good one. I paid 309.99 for mine new pre-covid, was about $350 otd. Mine came with night sights, 3 mags, and the manual safety which I've removed and installed the factory frame plugs. I've put 500-550 rounds through mine. It's accurate, and broken in the trigger is pretty nice so no real need to upgrade. I did put a rubberized talon grip on mine for cc which I'd highly recommend. I put the same type grip on all my guns so the grip feel is similar in my hand.
Great comparison! I love all of the detailed information.
which one (and any other you can suggest) has the smaller grip, shorter distance to the trigger for my wifes small hands ? and less recoil. she's new at shooting and trying to get her to shoot handguns more over our .223 Savage bolt. i got a gp qs1 but thought the grip is so small, I didn't notice the distance to the trigger was longer than a 1911.
I don’t have a caliper but the MP comes with 4 total grips and each one changes the feel of the gun dramatically. Swapping them out can be done in seconds. I dont have a p10c but the 2.0 with the small grip would likely fit her needs.
I like the slide rail support better on the m&p, that is very important to the longevity of the pistol, the feed ramp also looked narrower on cz, which makes me think it might be pickier on ammo
It is
Good data points on both. I rotate between the ppq-m1 and 2.0 and after this vid really liking the CZ as well. Thanks for the side by side vid!
Jimmy Kimber I regret selling my m1 ppq. Great gun. You will like the P10c if you get one. I still have P10c and 2.0c. Apex trigger on the 2.0 is a game changer.
Jeffrey Woodall yeah i may get one. The ppq is my fav so far. I think its terribly underrated for the most part. everyday i look at the ppq, g19 and mp 2.0 and im like IDK i just want to carry them all. haha. Agree on apex have them in my G1 m&ps. I’ll have to maybe see if a range has a cz for rental and consider it.
I really love my P-10c, my biggest complaint is that no major sight manufacture makes sights for it. So no Truglo, Trijicon or the like. Most are from CZ customs and Cajun Gun Works and for the most part are lacking. I've gotten so used to my Truglo TFX sights that I was saddened that they don't make them for the P-10c nor do they seem to be even considering making sights for the P-10c.
Also to remove the back straps on the P-10c is a pain, it uses a 2mm pin to hold the back strap in place and it's a long one so make sure your punch is long enough. I had to use an old 5/64 drill bit to do the job.
Otherwise the P-10c is a great handgun, I love to shoot it.
... excellent CZ sights by XS .. makes a quality defense handgun ...
I will have to say that 3 years later I am still carrying my P10c. I did find some great sights from Night Fission and upgraded the trigger shoe with one from HB Industries, their flat face model. I then added a rubber Talon grip, which I do on all by handguns. All in all I have 1000's of rounds shot through this excellent handgun and it's still going strong. I do wish the magazines were a little cheaper and easier to find but have made due to buying them when I do find them for sale.
I love both of these but have really been taken in by the new M&P 2.0's. I love the aggressive grips and these two IMO have the best grips on the market. I think the M&P has an advantage as far as price, I've gotten all 3 of my 2.0's for well under $450. In contrast I paid over $500 for the CZ but it is definitely worth it. This is a tough choice but considering all factors of the pistols and the price I would choose the M&P. If price was not a factor I might choose the CZ. Another awesome video brother, you always bring the goods. Also, Congrats on surpassing 600K subs!!
It's my next trade in I want one in 9mm and .45 acp...M&P💪
I have two 9mm's and a 40, next one is going to be the 45acp model. Almost got my hands on one today, but the guy had just traded it.
fumasterchu12 Agreed on the m&p 2.0! Never thought I'd own one, but I couldn't resist the 5" 9mm model in flat dark earth new for $439. What a great shooting handsome rugged pistol. Great trigger! Feels amazing in the hand. Beefed up rails. Already have had it to range about a dozen times. Cream puff to shoot. No malfunctions of any kind. Might be the best value for the dollar for the pistol Market at the moment!
Absolutely, I chose the M&P 2.0 as my best new pistol of 2017. I also caught some flak over it, but it's just my opinion. I love these pistols, great shooters and perfect reliability so far.
fumasterchu12 haha. I've caught some Flak over it as well. Pretty much everyone I work with at the jail is a Glock person. I own a Glock as well and think it's a fine gun. However, after spending time with the M&P 2.0, there's really no denying it's the better pistol. I've let a few of my friend shoot it at the range, and they've all liked it quite a bit and can't believe how much improved the trigger is over the old model
The CZ P10C comes with two +2 base plates that no one EVER seems to notice. They are tucked away in the pocket of the case with the owner's manual.
no they don't. maybe in the suppressor ready model but the base model does not
The CZ looks like it handles recoil a little better. But either way great choice.
I just purchased the M&P 2.0 and I love it. I was sold the first time I gripped the M&P. The grip makes it feel like the gun is part of you. I quit using my Glock 19--it's a good gun but it's not the M&P. The CZ appears to be a quality firearm, but after using the M&P there is no need for me to shop for another concealed carry gun. Great video and a fair comparison between the two guns. Thanks!
Love the review Sootch, two of the guns I’ve been eying to pick up.
Thanks Brother1
I own both and the grip texture on the m&p is superior. The triggers are completely different but the m&P 2.0's trigger is underrated and the CZ's trigger is overrated. I like the trigger guard on the CZ better and the weight. The grip for the CZ is just as long as my 17 round m&p but only holds 15 rounds.
I think a big bonus with the new M&P is that it can use the magazines from the "old" M&P9 that has been around so long. Magazines can get expensive M&P $25/Ea and CzP10c $32/Ea
I was under the impression that the M&P magazine pieces were for asthesics. Also didn't know you could over insert a double stack taper mag. I knew is was an issue with single stack jobs popular with 1911s.
Very good compareion of both pistols
Actually love these M&Ps
I ordered a P10C a couple days ago for $399. I can’t wait to get my hands on it 🤤
Elijah Israel I got it on sale at sportsman’s warehouse. The sales over now, though
Just got a m&p 2.0 compact with night sights and 3 mags from palmetto for 400 after tax and ffl transfer lol
Nice. I am still in the market for a compact as it has been full size this Winter. I have a sub compact but that is Summer only.
Food for thought.
Love my CZp10 F
I had been looking into the p10-c for the past year, and the M&p for the last few months. After a lot of back and fourth I finally decided to order the M&P9 2.0 compact. 369.99 on sale from sportsman’s outdoor superstore. Picking it up this week and I can’t freakin wait.
P.S. you just earned a subscriber man, great video! Watched this 5 min after I ordered mine, and this video made me glad I did!
One of the things that made me pick the Smith and Wesson compact was the fact that there was a lot of play in the slide at the front on the CZ also my CZ had a couple of problems along the way the spring and the pin for the trigger were coming out that is not good I’m sure they corrected it but they had a similar problem on the P07 duty model and it just looked redundant to me because I had that as well so the Smith and Wesson was hands-down the winter and the Trigger is definitely more than good enough and good enough not to change I am comfortable with it through and through
great review , great comparison, professionally done, thank you i'm a fan now
so due to being left and right handed glock and sig have been perfect but, since I tried out the other man!!! I may be picking up some different guns to shoot&have. thanks for all you do&have done sootch!!! your channels, reviews/comparisons, and vids have helped me so much in choosing parts, supplies, firearms etc. also you've inspired me to try new things and check them out rather then not ever giving them a chance. I mean worst case you don't like it or want to keep it you can always trade, or sell for something else. But again thank you very much brother! I appreciate it greatly and I'm sure others have as well👍take care, stay safe, god bless and long live the republic🇺🇸🇺🇸🔫🔫🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great review Sootch. I think I'm leaning towards the S&W. Is there a Ruger Security 9 review coming? Would love to hear your thoughts on this new high value pistol.
I'd love to get a Security 9 so we'll see what I can do. Thanks Brother!
It looks like trash
S&W made in America !!!
Rather give my money to an American company
Cz's are not made in america.
TheyCallMeCorona cz' s are not made in america
Reason why not
My money doesn't support companies in anti-2A states such as S&W (MA), Surefire (CA), Springfield Armory & RRA (IL), Spike's Tactical (FL) and so on.
Think pragmatically - not emotionally. I love America too but Constitutional Principles are non-negotiable and therefore they are not subject to patriotic ambiguity.
Stay classy my friends.
@sootch00 the M&P might have a better slide release, but the CZ has a slam release, so if you “slam” (when I say slam it’s really not that hard just a little harder than normal) the magazine into the weapon the slide will automatically release and drop
Most striker fired guns do that
Mine doesn't slam release, and the slide release is nearly impossible for a normal human to activate with the thumb, on my gun anyway, so you may be left with only the slingshot method!!! There may be some adjustments I could make to the springs, but I don't carry it so won't bother trying. Just another data point.
Just bought my M & P 2.0 for $389.95 . I have yet to try it out but I don't believe I will be disappointed.
Front slide cuts on m&p throws you off when your fingers meet the frame which is wider than the slide.
went to my LGS other day and had my ameriglo agent sights installed onto my glock 22 due to me not having my sight tools & pusher yet. but I have always stuck to and went with glock due to me being so used&comfortable with and to them! but I checked out a few of the caniks tp9 and tp9sf and the elite, a few cz's the p10c, the p07,&p09 also the cz rami, then I checked out an m&p9 and a few other m&ps and the 2.0. I knew I already like and loved my glocks&Sig Sauers. But man those cz, Walters, and caniks felt pretty good in the hand/hands. I shoot both handed very well and accurately. but with rifles&shotguns I mainly shoot right handed. but I'm weird and can see and use both eyes.
I love my p10c. My favorite gun by far. I shoot it VERY well. But I'm going to pick up a 2.0 compact because why not lol.
I love my M&P Shield. Great trigger. Great shooter. Great accuracy. I live in Northern Illinois . I travel between Chicago and southern Wisconsin. I have had no problems with it. It is my concealed carry. Reasonably priced for Illinois. Good firearm.
I carry a shield plus but the Cz p10c does look good for a truck gun or home defense thumper
Great video as always. I would like to see the walther ppq m2 in 9mm in the comparison also to see all 3. The walther may be a little bigger but still a good firearm.
There aren't quite as many sight options for the P10-C as the M&P. Hopefully that will change.
For the slide release on the P10-C I find if you use the thumb of the hand inserting the magazine to hit the release it can give you a bit more leverage.
.. I realize this is an old comment ,, but if you have not looked yet ,, HB Industries make an awesome extended mag release for the P10C ...
@@rockytopwrangler2069 thanks but my comment was about the slide release, not magazine release.
I held a P10F at LGS, haven't held or shot the P10C yet but the F grip was overly aggressive IMO. Ended up buying M&P 2.0C 4" and very happy with it. Might revisit P10C some day as it's very reasonably priced but until then, VP9 will prob be my next buy
Good honest review. I just got the m and p but the looks pretty damn nice. Nice trigger on the cz.
Excellent reviews!! I'm a Smith & Wesson fan myself, but the CZ looks great. Thanks bro.
The MP2.0 (3.6) is a double stack Shield. Great gun, but you do have to get used to that wiggle trigger.
...completely different gun than the Shield ... and on both replace trigger with an APEX and never look back ... at this time the Shield has come out with the Shield Plus ..another good option ..
I like both guns, I do prefer the CZ guns over any other guns I have hands down. The triggers on the CZ are second to none from my personal perspective. You cant go wrong with either of these guns like you said.
If only you could have the P10C trigger in the M&P