I went from a 16 6.7 to a 22 7.3 and I don't regret it. The diesel was fun and had tons of power but at the end of the day I just didn't use it to its full potential. The 7.3 meets my needs plus I live 15-20 min from work and I only pull stuff on occasion. Diesels dont like short trips. The 7.3 is no slouch and it is up to any task I throw at it.
@@tree01house 2000 7.3L was Deisel and didn't have lifter problems like the 2020-current Gas 7.3L. The 7.3L is not reliable choice. almost everything post covid from ford is also junk. I have a W/T with the 5.9L cummins 12v and a tesla for most everyday driving. I also don't need a truck most of the time. Works well for me.
Depends on what your doing with the truck. Only time I would get a diesel is if I absolutely needed the power like towing heavy equipment everyday. Gas is the way to go for most people that work the truck like on a ranch or fleet services that stop and go or slow trail riding on the farm. Gas will be cheaper in the long run less break downs expenses and shop time. Another consideration is the weight up front on the diesel wears suspension components quicker and due to that weight sinks off road. Gas is better in cold weather also. Gas is more responsive like pulling out in traffic cause no turbo to spool gas usually wins 0 to 30 or 40 then diesel pulls ahead. Insurance will be cheaper on gas also cause the truck is cheaper by 8,000 or so which adds up over the life of the truck.
@@Back_door_bandit_98 they are bro! Look them up on RUclips, with a little bigger turbo and tuning they smoke corvettes on the track! This guy's clearly never driven a 6.7 if he thinks they're turbo lagging and slow off the line. That might be truer of older diesels without a vgt turbo but he's actually got it completely backwards, gas will start to catch up after 40 or so if you're racing, most of diesels acceleration and is at the low end cause rpms are half that of gas. Hard to compete with over 1000ft lb of torque off the line, there's pretty much nothing but a crotch rocket or a hellcat that's gonna beat a 6.7 to 30 or 40mph if you're trying, lol
I’m in the RV transport industry with a 2020 7.3 gas F350 8’ bed with a 109 gal aux fuel tank. The truck has 250k miles in which I change the oil every 3k. That means with me that’s every 3-4 weeks. No issues with the 7.3 Godzill. I’m running 3:73 gears and have no issues pulling the hills in Utah, Wyoming and Montana. Trailer weight on the units I pull vary between 8k to 14.5k (shipping weight). I’m currently delivering a 12k destination model from Indiana to Cali. I would love to meet up with you on my next trip to Utah and have you take it for a spin. Nice vid.
@@devn3813 i’m leased on with Horizon Transport. You can Google them. There’s a link on their website with the requirements on becoming a driver They have contracts with all the major RV manufactures in Indiana. They have a load board in which you pick your units to transport.
Great testament! On the fence between the 6.7 diesel and 7.3 gas to pull our 10.2k dry/12k loaded 5er. Leaning towards the gas since the truck would mostly be used only for towing when not in use.
Have 19000 miles on my 22 F350 in 11 1/2 months. 16000 on a trip to Alaska hauling a truck camper. Depending on Hills, elevation and speed, got 10-12 MPG. ZERO complaints with engine and truck so far.
Mine is in production now. Planning on trip to Alaska ourselves with truck camper. Ordered the 4:30 dually. Thanks for the confidence that 7.3 will work out well
I just bought a 23 srw f350 and was on the fence between the two engines. Ended up finding one with the HO diesel and wend for it. Thing is pretty impressive. I haul around 2k pounds in the bed at all times and if I set the cruise I get around 17 on the hwy. Tons of power and it’s got almost zero lag. So much better than the older version of diesel.
I've had 2 DEF Diesels over the years (11 F250, 14 Ram 2500), averaging 500 miles towing every 2500 miles, hand calculated both would get around 1000 miles per DEF gallon.
I've had several diesel trucks in the past and currently have a half ton gas truck. I'm wanting and needing a 3/4 to 1 ton truck again and as much as i'd like a diesel, a gas HD would do everything I need for the amount of time I would be towing with it. Plus, I hate the emissions nonsense! In my mexk of the woods here in Colorado, my local Ford Dealership has a decent amount of HD'S in the ground but no 7.3's. They are all 6.7's. Thanks, JB, for the videos!
It really depends on how you're going to use the truck. For me, it would have been an absolute act of hubris to get the 6.7 PowerStroke. I went the 2022 F-350 7.3L because I live 12 minutes from work in Northwest Indiana, and this is my daily driver. I only tow in the summer an 8K travel trailer. If I went the 6.7L, I would clog up that DPF all the time as I would rarely get the truck up to operating temperature. Also, in the winter I would be freezing my butt off unless I let it idle in the morning to warm up which is not good. So for me the 7.3L was the right choice, even though I wanted to go the 6.7L
Even people that get these engines at operating temperature still have problem with emissions they'll be pulling a 15k load across the country and a fucking map sensor will go out of a plug will erode and the vehicle will stop working that is all it takes a sensor goes out and the damn thing will not respond
So far I've had good luck with my new 7.3 f350. Engine/transmission breaking has done well towing 15K through the mountains of Georgia and Tennessee. The truck actually tows better in cruise control.
Whats been interesting to me, so many people complain about unreliable emissions systems. When I ask if they own one, they usually say no, but my cousins buddies dad has had a ton of issues. When I ask a random guy how he likes his diesel truck at the gas station they always say they love it.
This has been my experience as well. My friends and I all have diesels of different kinds and none of us have had any emissions issues. The maintenance costs are pretty close compared to a gasser and I've never lacked power when pulling steep grades out west.
$2k repair bill after dpf got clogged on an emergency road trip 1200 miles from home, left me without a vehicle for 4 days on a 5 day trip. When people complain about the unreliable emissions system it's because we've dealt with an unreliable emissions system. It's a ticking time bomb in every diesel and even to a point that fleets are swapping to gas powered now for everything but exceptionally heavy loads.
You are absolutely right in your assessment. In the 90s, you paid 3 grand more for a diesel and heavy transmission but you went from 8 to 16 mpg so it paid back in time. With the upfront cost now, and then the problems and costs with all the emissions related parts, only people towing 50% or more of the time should even consider a diesel. It has gotten out of hand. Tractor trailers ran cross country with 350 hp and 1100 pd torque up through 2000, but now people towing a boat or a camper "need" 500 hp and 1100 pd torque in a pickup.
I love my '23 7.3L Godzilla F-350. Yes it gets lousy mileage but I don't drive a lot of miles. I don't want to get hit with those shock maintenance bills for a diesel.
I have a 12 Ram 2500 with the 6.7 Cummins and G56 manual(last year before they started using DEF) The major issues I've had all are emissions related. My 22 F-250 Tremor I looked pretty much nation wide to find with the 7.3 Godzilla. It does everything I want but compared to the Ram, is down about 2 mpg when empty and about 1 mpg when towing my 9800 lb travel trailer.
2020 F250 7.3L 42,442 miles at $11,239 total gas cost. So ~40k free driving miles instead of a diesel engine. Also, a brand new 7.3 crate engine is $9k… Two gas engines for the price of 1 diesel…
I have to agree with this. If you aren’t towing constantly it’s getting harder and harder to justify a diesel engine. Sure we all love the torque and ease of towing with it, BUT a gas engine is cheaper to start with, cheaper to maintain, no additional DEF (yet I hear GEF is coming), cheaper to insure, you can run the gas engine until it’s worn out and then replace it cheaper than the initial cost of the diesel. Now consider the cost of repairs and work on a diesel. A lot of times to dig into a diesel the cab has to be raised and parts repairs get expensive quick. If someone isn’t working a diesel and it making them money then it gets harder and harder to justify.
It is exactly opposite on trade in value. Dealers hate trading in diesels that are no longer under warranty because they are guaranteed to have an expensive emission issue and they don’t want to be buried in a truck with expensive issues. Same truck except for motor they are about $8k difference for trade in value and the diesel was $10-12k more new…
The awesome part about the 7.3 Gas is that 400+ Ft-Lbs of torque come on at 1500 RPM, the low end. The Godzilla is a beast. I've towed the same 12K 5th Wheel with both the 7.3 Godzilla and the 6.7 Power Stroke. The Godzilla is just as tough as the Power Stroke. My Power Stroke is an F350 and the Godzilla is an F250. The F350 is heavier and more bouncy (softer suspension) than the F250 was. Both are Tremors. Love your content Justin - from a Ram Diesel Fan Boy to really understanding the strengths and weaknesses of all the trucks, you've come a long way!
Um, the 3.5 Ecoboost in the f150 had 510 torque and the 6.7 diesel has 1050 torque, just for comparison sake. 6.7 Diesel is more than double the 7.3 torque. Not saying the 7.3 isn't good, but the diesel is way better.
@@pineforest7528The F250 Tremors have the same rear leaf springs and axles as the F350 to create added lift for the 35” tires. I believe this combined with the lower weight of the gas engine vs the diesel made the ride stiffer. In the F250. I’ve owned both.
I am seeing more and more company’s buying the 7.3 motors in their F250’s all the way up to the F550’s especially the companies that have large fleets. If they don’t need the maximum towing, the gas is a much better choice. They get the job done at a cheaper input cost and less possibility’s of emmision related problems.
Just an FYI- Doing some research on Fords website it looks like there is only about a 400lbs difference in the weight from the gas 7.3 about 600lbs verse the Diesel 6.7 about 1000lbs…
I would agree and disagree on the oil changes. Fresh oil is always best but I would steer people toward buying the best oil and changing at the recommended intervals. If you skimp out and buy cheap oil then yes change it often like you said.
@@Tool0GT92how people feel also takes into consideration of how they drive. More stop n go city=more often change interval. 1 year and 10k is ok if it's mainly highway. I don't drive more than 10k in a year with my 7.3. So, always change less than 8k. My last oil change was around 6 or 7 month interval and around 5k miles, just because I had a hard on for pennzoil platinum ultra for some reason... Previously used ams @ 1k and 8k and mobil1 @ 16k and 23k
I have a 7.3 and love it! My buddy has the 6.7 and also thought his was bigger and badder. Even if my is 3" taller... he had to us my truck to tow a trail when his was I. Shop cause the DEF filter was having issues. He loved it and no longer gives me shit. Great video thanks for making it!
Def used to be 7.99 a jug. The price is ridiculously now! Also JB you contradicted yourself when sayin the dpf would get clocked quicker with no load then said you’ll use more def when putting the truck in high load requirements
With the price difference between gas and diesel last few years up here in Canada. My next pickup will be a gasser. Between expensive diesel and def issues. Makes no sense to run a diesel.
With how far gas engines have come and truck improvements along with the manufactures not caring about 10000 gvwr on 2500 I’ve almost come to the conclusion that 2500 should be single wheel and 3500 should just be dually.
I'm a diesel fan boy. But for daily driver, the gas is more economical and practical imo. Especially if your doing short drives. Less hassle with no emissions bs. When it comes to towing, the 6.7 powerstroke all day. Diesel is much better for higher elevations too. I have a early 22 f350 tremor 6.7, 89k miles using amsoil oil, archoil ar6500 every fill up and not one single mechanical issue. Oil change every 5k miles, fuel filters every 10k, and I tow a 17k 5th wheel
I had a 2020 King Ranch 7.3 and I currently have a 24 6.7 high output say what you want to make your mental feel better but the diesel is the boss truck. But there are guys out there that are fine with having an XLT but I'm looking to hop out of my truck and not only use it but also feel like I have a boss truck
I rarely tow. Only 3k pounds on a flat bed trailer now and again, but my commute to the office is about an hour each way. Is it still crazy to consider the 6.7?
I did a build on a 7.3 and it was a $7k upgrade from the standard engine, the 6.7 L was $10k more. Basically a diesel is a $3k premium over the 7.3. For me the diesel would be worth the extra cost.
If people drove a well built, well tuned diesel that wasn't choked down on power then they'd see what the attraction is. Instead of adding all the emissions stuff on the exhaust side, you could add a water methenol injection system on the intake side and get even better cheaper, more reliable benefits. The efficiency and life span of diesel are about double of that a well built gas engine, save for Ford's 460 and inline 6.
Dad and I are driving a 7.3. The fuel economy (~11 around town) is painful right now with the cost of gas. We wanted to go Diesel but couldn't justify the extra cost. And we don't tow that much so really dealing with the price of diesel fuel and managing DEF, gas is the better option for us.
Lol yes I agree with that statement. Depends who is in office. Fuel prices need to come back down. I have a 2018 6.7 and I own a landscaping business. I just do not need the diesel, especially with the added headache and maintenance. I never thought I’d say it because I absolutely love the 6.7 but it’s just not for me anymore. Going to be selling mine for a 7.3!
I get around 6-8 mpg in town in my brand new 7.3 with 4.30 rear end. Combined mileage after 1500 miles is about 10.5 mpg according to the truck. Not too happy with that. If I baby it on the highway doing 70mph empty it'll get 14-15 mpg. Yay?
1. Do you really want a diesel? Get what you want. 2. Do you need a diesel to tow heavy, like over 10K pounds? The 7.3 is fine, even in hills, under that weight. 3. Do you understand there's no fuel savings when you figure you'll pay $200 month extra for the engine choice ($267 less fuel cost annually, on average, than the 7.3)? That's based on todays interest rates. 4. Do you pin your hopes on resale value despite not having any data to back that up?
Personally, I am more afraid of a diesel with 250k on it than a gas one. Though the gas motors tire out before a diesel, it also seems that gas motors handle harsher abuse than many diesels do. Not to mention if you get a high mileage but nice truck in either one, and the motor goes to hell, one can be replaced for 7 to 9k and the other is 20 to 25.
I can always appreciate the Rats Nest wiring and tubing routing on the Ford Engines. They just don't give a crap. 🙂 Had an engineering intern do the routing designs?
I heard a lot of opinion but not a lot of specifics in this show... I am not interested in opinion. I have had several trucks including Ford 7.3Diesel, Ford 6.7 Diesel, Chevrolet 454 Gas. Hands down the best enginge I have ever had concerning pulling a load, (Torque, Hp) daily driving , mileage,is the 2024 Ford 6.7 Diesel which I purchased recently. Crew Cab, 4WD, 8' Bed, in town and all around mileage is 21.5, towing with a 12,000 load giving me better than 16 mpg uo hill and down hill all around. Longevity is not hard to determine since this engine has been on the market for over 15 years. Lots of reviews over the yeras and lots of problems with the early versions, but today's engines are well refined and in my estimation one of the best diesel engines on the market.
I have the 7.3 in a f350 tremor. I think they recommend 8 or 10k miles for oil changes. About the only benefit to a diesel is if you tow a lot. And even though the diesel has a higher tow rating you Tent towing 30k lbs with one of these cause it would be hell to stop regardless of the engine.
Very simple. Gas-450 hp, 450 ft.lbs. torque. Diesel-450 hp, 1050 ft.lbs. torque. (approx.) NEVER A MOMENT OF DOUBT when driving an uncharted incline during my travels on an unfamiliar road with my heavy trailer. It's worth EVERY penny. With the prices of these trucks, do people really quibble about fuel and maintenance? Just as last post stated, "what are you doing with the truck?"
I live in CA and not so much recently. I've even seen diesel around the same price as the 91 octane. Still don't get why diesel is more money than gas. The refining process has to cost less.
Could I get you to weigh in on the "delamination" of parts within the 7.3 gas? I don't tow enough or heavy enough for a diesel. I also live where diesel tends to jell in the wintertime due to cold. I don't want to deal with that either. I'm very interested in a 7.3 gas, but am concerned about the delamination issues of parts in the engine causing engine failure. Please let me know what you think.
From what I've heard and seen it was a very few of the first runs of the 7.3 with issues. Never buy the first couple years of new engine to be safe but they should be good to go now. Alot of it was overblown due to social media and this being the most popular and the most hated engine in along time. Not only do you have ram and gm haters as usual but you have haters from diesel guys even some powerstroke guys hate this engine cause it's putting in work for less money and complications then the modern diesels. This engine gets alot of hype praise and hate guess it comes with the territory.
My 23 Ram HO drinks def and looks like it will need fuel filter service at every oil change. re sale of a gasser will be a big dis appointment for most folks.
The whole gas Vs diesel debate will continue on forever. Both sides have their extremist for sure. My opinion is buy what you want and that you can afford. Because both will do just about anything you want these days. There is misconceptions on both sides that I want to mention. One is routine oil changes. Gas engines are not always cheaper here. I can use GM for the example. The L5P holds 10 quarts and does not require synthetic oil. The L8T holds 8 quarts and does require synthetic. So the oil actually cost more for the gasser. And then resale value is another myth. Diesels do bring more for trade typically but they also cost $10,000 more. And once an emissions in tact diesel breaks 100,000 miles their value drops like a rock.
Right now I'm going to say the 7 3 gas because I have a 6.7 diesel engine and it's in the shop getting the complete fuel system redone because of the def fluid crystallized in the def tank and getting to the fuel pump and fuel lines coasting me 15000 to get fixed
They should also do a video on 1999 Ford Super Duty 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel vs 2024 Ford Super Duty 6.7 Powerstroke Diesel vs 2024 Ford Super Duty 7.3 Godzilla Gasoline Reasons why I included the 1999 Ford Super Duty 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel: First, 7.3 gas vs 7.3 diesel Second 7.3 diesel was manufactured until 2003 due to stricter California emission standards.
Oil changes same thing both should be done at 5000 miles . You push a diesel to 7500 that’s fine short term but long term your just costing yourself more .They both call for oil changes between 8-10 k but no one in their right mind runs oil that long unless it’s a lease
My gripe with the 7.3 is, that's it's not a flex fuel engine. There's no excuse for it not to be. I'm a Farmer, and I'll burn ethanol fuel when it's a choice. ( I'm driving a 2012 F350 flex fuel 6.2L that I ordered new. )
Add the cost of oil changes,dpf filter and exhaust not covered under warranty and the cost of fuel unless absolutely needed and making money with the truck the gas is the way to go. 12g more,1 dollar plus more a gallon, def fluid,oil changes even with worse mpg it'll take a while to save that kind of money going diesel vs gas
As an Australian it’s weird you guys pick petrol. I understand petrol is cheaper in the US, whereas diesel is cheaper here but diesel torque beats petrol power anytime for driving.
I wish the 7.3 didn't have so many valve train issues. There's more and more people on the forums and RUclips with lower mileage engine failure claims.
Lots of “claims”. People like saying “it happened to mine” but no videos or pictures to back it up. Ford service stats, real numbers. It’s not a problem.
The 6.7 has a lot of problems I would not recommend it to anybody! I got Close to $30,000 in repairs this year alone including replacing the Engine, Turbo, and bunch of other things that I don't even want to get into too! Expensive Truck to own....From the research that I've done the oiling system is the main problem in the 6.7 and the Def System is a nightmare in it self! If you upgrade the oil pump to a better one you solve a lot of problems!
I find it odd the American market is the only one that is so against diesel. Other countries have diesel sedans and wagons and vans but in the U.S even 7,000 lb trucks and RVs and Uhauls come in gas it makes no sense. Americans are still buying vehicles like gas is $.25
a good 75% of diesel owners today really no have business owning one. my work truck is a 1995 Chevy K2500 6.5L Diesel. our daily driver / family hauler is a 2004 GMC 1500 Yukon XL 5.3L gas and my personal cruising truck is a 1989 Chevy C1500 5.7L gas. one hauls tools and building materials. the others haul people. the diesel gets better mileage than the yukon, but only by 100-150 km per tank. both are about 90% highway driven all the time. my C1500 gets the same mileage as my diesel with some light fuel mods. unless a diesel owner has a business and can write off mileage and other expenses, just having a diesel simply to have one is dumb and speaks volumes of the owner.
Better for milage, towing, better resale value, putting on 300,000.00 - 400,000 plus miles would be Diesel. Yes they are more money but you can't get all of this with a 7.3 gas
The 7.3 has to be a big upgrade over the 6.2 boss, I'm not a big fan of that engine for HD use, it's powerband makes it seem like it would be more at home in a mustang not a 3/4 or 1 ton truck.the 6.2 doesn't seem to have very good low rpm TQ but yeah it pulls hard in the upper rpms, that's great n all but not really ideal in a heavy 4wd pickup. We have two 6.2s at my job one a 2017 3/4 to extended cab one a 2020ish 1 ton 4 door with a utility body and even the 3/4 ton you punch it from a stop it slowly glides away, if you blip the gas it does nothing except the rpms flaring, yeah I know a lot of that is the transmission which in my opinion is hot garbage. Once the rpms get up some it wakes right up, an odd power and for a HD pickup, Another weird thing is you punch it to say pass and it will drop into a gear that's so low it just sends the engine way to high where it can't really go anywhere then an upshift then it pulls good, again what's going on here. The 2017 with a bed full of tools nothing crazy averaged 11 mpg on the interstate cruising, that is best case scenario for fuel economy and it's terrible, the 2020 around rural roads was seeing 7 to 9 mpg easy driving. So I'm thinking the 6.2 doesn't shine as a practical truck engine. It's to bad the aftermarket never embraced the 6.2 boss, the boss name comes from how similar it is to the boss 429 the 6.2 boss is a modern sohc hemi which is cool as hell. It was the bad boy engine in the raptor so why it never caught on as a performance engine option anywhere else is weird. That would have been a cool engine in the 06 Ford GT vs the 5.4 but the 5.4 was a dohc 32v
Hey I gotta tell you man a lot of your information is incorrect. I have a fleet of 13 trucks where we deliver heavy loads for companies such as building air conditioners, piping, etc. all over Texas Oklahoma Missouri and Louisiana. I can tell you right now unless you’re towing 20,000 pounds or more regularly you do not want a diesel. The cost of ownership is so high now with the oil changes which have to be done between 5000 or 7500 miles because of the suit buildup from the emission system or you will lose that engine. The emission systems destroy these engines and idling is horrific on them now. I started off with diesel’s and I’ve had so many problems that I’ve switched over to F350 gas trucks. My entire fleet except for three trucks are all gas 7.3 L V8 engines. I have them equipped to tow regularly between 13,000 and 18,000 pounds and they do that day in and day out with no problems. The cost of ownership is around 40% less and cost $13,000 less per truck when I bought them. I could never recommend to anyone to buy a diesel unless you’re towing extremely heavy weight. Now, I do have three F450 trucks that are built and designed to do heavy loads which are typically around 25,000 pounds to 30,000 pounds which at that point you absolutely have to have a diesel. But, because of the revenue I generate from those loads it pays for the extra maintenance and extra cost of having those three trucks. Those type of loads are more rare hence why I only have three of those trucks. For most of us you don’t need a diesel get the gas save your money trust me you will thank me for it.
In turms of the dpf and rhe whole emission system countless trucks go out all the time because of the aftertreatment system people load rhese vehicle up and the damn thing still goes out map limp mode egt sensor limp mode run it long and hard they say yet people still have problems out of them i have been for a minjte thinking about getting one since driving is going crazy for me with gas prices being the way they are where i'm at and deisel being a dollar more then gas here with the way driving is for me that is adding up if it continues i may have to get a deisel for.the sakes of milage
I've did the math... for.my use... my gas prices, mpg, and worst case scenario on diesel vs gas... it would take me 13 yrs to make the diesel worth it in MONETARY terms. With that being said.. I'll probably not have one past 5 yrs.. due to factory warranty.
@@deal492 with the way me is driving everyday it makes me wonder i have to drive 30 miles to and from work and on weekends or when I'm not working I have to be out like all day sometimes to fill up is costing quite a bit I am honestly wondering if it will save a bit if I got an old diesel or something I'm not dealing with emissions
Who wants a used diesel out of warranty when they like grenading fuel systems? I had the diesels for 25 years and I would never go back. I can put an entire long Block in a 7.3 gas for half the price of what a fuel system cost in a 6.7. Fuel is also a dollar to $1.25 a gallon most of the Year where I live.
I've had nothing but gas trucks. 2012 6.2 and 2006 5.4 3V. Both near 400k miles as granite install trucks, So always overweight. Both 2WD. All the other guys work with have significantly higher operating costs on the 3 different diesel trucks. While the gas truck has garbage resale, they are work trucks. Resale doesn't matter, what matters is cost per mile and long term stability. I still drive the 2006 and it has no intention of letting up anytime soon.
With all the E.P.A. CRAP on modern diesels, it definitely has very negative effects and seriously degrades it's reliability and life span. So, unless you're doing any daily heavy towing, i.e. hotshot trucking you should stay away from them. 6.8 looks nice and less costly ($3k option and mpg) than 7.3 if extra power isn't required.
Most of the people that have a diesel truck have no reason to have one. They just want to be cool Get a grip if you're just a grocery store runner by a gas truck
Neither. It says FORD on it. I'm a lifelong Ford guy and the next new Ford I buy will be a 1995 or before. Anything newer than that the engines and transmissions are junk, electronics and electrical systems are junk, and engineering is a disaster. Just sayin.
I went from a 16 6.7 to a 22 7.3 and I don't regret it. The diesel was fun and had tons of power but at the end of the day I just didn't use it to its full potential. The 7.3 meets my needs plus I live 15-20 min from work and I only pull stuff on occasion. Diesels dont like short trips. The 7.3 is no slouch and it is up to any task I throw at it.
I have a 2000 7.3L, pushing 500,000, still going strong
@@tree01house 2000 7.3L was Deisel and didn't have lifter problems like the 2020-current Gas 7.3L.
The 7.3L is not reliable choice. almost everything post covid from ford is also junk.
I have a W/T with the 5.9L cummins 12v and a tesla for most everyday driving. I also don't need a truck most of the time. Works well for me.
Depends on what your doing with the truck. Only time I would get a diesel is if I absolutely needed the power like towing heavy equipment everyday. Gas is the way to go for most people that work the truck like on a ranch or fleet services that stop and go or slow trail riding on the farm. Gas will be cheaper in the long run less break downs expenses and shop time. Another consideration is the weight up front on the diesel wears suspension components quicker and due to that weight sinks off road. Gas is better in cold weather also. Gas is more responsive like pulling out in traffic cause no turbo to spool gas usually wins 0 to 30 or 40 then diesel pulls ahead. Insurance will be cheaper on gas also cause the truck is cheaper by 8,000 or so which adds up over the life of the truck.
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Unfortunately people are dumb and buy shit they don't need.
You ever even driven a turbo diesel? My 6.7 smokes Camaros easily, lol
@@sultangris8063found the guy that thinks his 9k pound truck is a race car.
@@Back_door_bandit_98 they are bro! Look them up on RUclips, with a little bigger turbo and tuning they smoke corvettes on the track! This guy's clearly never driven a 6.7 if he thinks they're turbo lagging and slow off the line. That might be truer of older diesels without a vgt turbo but he's actually got it completely backwards, gas will start to catch up after 40 or so if you're racing, most of diesels acceleration and is at the low end cause rpms are half that of gas. Hard to compete with over 1000ft lb of torque off the line, there's pretty much nothing but a crotch rocket or a hellcat that's gonna beat a 6.7 to 30 or 40mph if you're trying, lol
I’m in the RV transport industry with a 2020 7.3 gas F350 8’ bed with a 109 gal aux fuel tank. The truck has 250k miles in which I change the oil every 3k. That means with me that’s every 3-4 weeks. No issues with the 7.3 Godzill. I’m running 3:73 gears and have no issues pulling the hills in Utah, Wyoming and Montana. Trailer weight on the units I pull vary between 8k to 14.5k (shipping weight). I’m currently delivering a 12k destination model from Indiana to Cali. I would love to meet up with you on my next trip to Utah and have you take it for a spin. Nice vid.
Do you mind sharing the model/who makes the aux gas tank you are running. Thank you.
How do you get into that business ? How do find people who need their RV transported?
@@devn3813 i’m leased on with Horizon Transport. You can Google them. There’s a link on their website with the requirements on becoming a driver They have contracts with all the major RV manufactures in Indiana. They have a load board in which you pick your units to transport.
Great testament! On the fence between the 6.7 diesel and 7.3 gas to pull our 10.2k dry/12k loaded 5er. Leaning towards the gas since the truck would mostly be used only for towing when not in use.
any luck finding info on the aux gas tank@@tango165
had 2 diesels, and now on my 3rd gas f350. best change ever, gas is best in all but nation wide trucking, where a diesel may have a slight advantage.
I enjoyed this demonstration ,the Ford Super Duty 7.3L Gas is best for me👍
Have 19000 miles on my 22 F350 in 11 1/2 months. 16000 on a trip to Alaska hauling a truck camper. Depending on Hills, elevation and speed, got 10-12 MPG.
ZERO complaints with engine and truck so far.
Mine is in production now. Planning on trip to Alaska ourselves with truck camper. Ordered the 4:30 dually. Thanks for the confidence that 7.3 will work out well
I just bought a 23 srw f350 and was on the fence between the two engines. Ended up finding one with the HO diesel and wend for it. Thing is pretty impressive. I haul around 2k pounds in the bed at all times and if I set the cruise I get around 17 on the hwy. Tons of power and it’s got almost zero lag. So much better than the older version of diesel.
I've had 2 DEF Diesels over the years (11 F250, 14 Ram 2500), averaging 500 miles towing every 2500 miles, hand calculated both would get around 1000 miles per DEF gallon.
I've had several diesel trucks in the past and currently have a half ton gas truck. I'm wanting and needing a 3/4 to 1 ton truck again and as much as i'd like a diesel, a gas HD would do everything I need for the amount of time I would be towing with it. Plus, I hate the emissions nonsense! In my mexk of the woods here in Colorado, my local Ford Dealership has a decent amount of HD'S in the ground but no 7.3's. They are all 6.7's. Thanks, JB, for the videos!
It really depends on how you're going to use the truck. For me, it would have been an absolute act of hubris to get the 6.7 PowerStroke. I went the 2022 F-350 7.3L because I live 12 minutes from work in Northwest Indiana, and this is my daily driver. I only tow in the summer an 8K travel trailer. If I went the 6.7L, I would clog up that DPF all the time as I would rarely get the truck up to operating temperature. Also, in the winter I would be freezing my butt off unless I let it idle in the morning to warm up which is not good. So for me the 7.3L was the right choice, even though I wanted to go the 6.7L
Diesel has a rapid supplement heater for 250 bucks almost Instant heat
Even people that get these engines at operating temperature still have problem with emissions they'll be pulling a 15k load across the country and a fucking map sensor will go out of a plug will erode and the vehicle will stop working that is all it takes a sensor goes out and the damn thing will not respond
So far I've had good luck with my new 7.3 f350. Engine/transmission breaking has done well towing 15K through the mountains of Georgia and Tennessee. The truck actually tows better in cruise control.
Whats been interesting to me, so many people complain about unreliable emissions systems. When I ask if they own one, they usually say no, but my cousins buddies dad has had a ton of issues. When I ask a random guy how he likes his diesel truck at the gas station they always say they love it.
This has been my experience as well. My friends and I all have diesels of different kinds and none of us have had any emissions issues. The maintenance costs are pretty close compared to a gasser and I've never lacked power when pulling steep grades out west.
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$2k repair bill after dpf got clogged on an emergency road trip 1200 miles from home, left me without a vehicle for 4 days on a 5 day trip.
When people complain about the unreliable emissions system it's because we've dealt with an unreliable emissions system. It's a ticking time bomb in every diesel and even to a point that fleets are swapping to gas powered now for everything but exceptionally heavy loads.
You are absolutely right in your assessment. In the 90s, you paid 3 grand more for a diesel and heavy transmission but you went from 8 to 16 mpg so it paid back in time. With the upfront cost now, and then the problems and costs with all the emissions related parts, only people towing 50% or more of the time should even consider a diesel. It has gotten out of hand. Tractor trailers ran cross country with 350 hp and 1100 pd torque up through 2000, but now people towing a boat or a camper "need" 500 hp and 1100 pd torque in a pickup.
I love my '23 7.3L Godzilla F-350. Yes it gets lousy mileage but I don't drive a lot of miles. I don't want to get hit with those shock maintenance bills for a diesel.
I have a 12 Ram 2500 with the 6.7 Cummins and G56 manual(last year before they started using DEF) The major issues I've had all are emissions related. My 22 F-250 Tremor I looked pretty much nation wide to find with the 7.3 Godzilla. It does everything I want but compared to the Ram, is down about 2 mpg when empty and about 1 mpg when towing my 9800 lb travel trailer.
2020 F250 7.3L 42,442 miles at $11,239 total gas cost. So ~40k free driving miles instead of a diesel engine. Also, a brand new 7.3 crate engine is $9k…
Two gas engines for the price of 1 diesel…
I have to agree with this. If you aren’t towing constantly it’s getting harder and harder to justify a diesel engine. Sure we all love the torque and ease of towing with it, BUT a gas engine is cheaper to start with, cheaper to maintain, no additional DEF (yet I hear GEF is coming), cheaper to insure, you can run the gas engine until it’s worn out and then replace it cheaper than the initial cost of the diesel.
Now consider the cost of repairs and work on a diesel. A lot of times to dig into a diesel the cab has to be raised and parts repairs get expensive quick.
If someone isn’t working a diesel and it making them money then it gets harder and harder to justify.
It is exactly opposite on trade in value. Dealers hate trading in diesels that are no longer under warranty because they are guaranteed to have an expensive emission issue and they don’t want to be buried in a truck with expensive issues. Same truck except for motor they are about $8k difference for trade in value and the diesel was $10-12k more new…
The awesome part about the 7.3 Gas is that 400+ Ft-Lbs of torque come on at 1500 RPM, the low end. The Godzilla is a beast. I've towed the same 12K 5th Wheel with both the 7.3 Godzilla and the 6.7 Power Stroke. The Godzilla is just as tough as the Power Stroke. My Power Stroke is an F350 and the Godzilla is an F250. The F350 is heavier and more bouncy (softer suspension) than the F250 was. Both are Tremors. Love your content Justin - from a Ram Diesel Fan Boy to really understanding the strengths and weaknesses of all the trucks, you've come a long way!
Um, the 3.5 Ecoboost in the f150 had 510 torque and the 6.7 diesel has 1050 torque, just for comparison sake. 6.7 Diesel is more than double the 7.3 torque. Not saying the 7.3 isn't good, but the diesel is way better.
@sultangris8063 the new diesels idle at 400 ft lbs.
Your f350 has a LESS soft suspension than your f250. It has an extra leaf spring so what you wrote makes no sense. ???
@@pineforest7528The F250 Tremors have the same rear leaf springs and axles as the F350 to create added lift for the 35” tires. I believe this combined with the lower weight of the gas engine vs the diesel made the ride stiffer. In the F250. I’ve owned both.
@@sultangris8063And Ford doesn’t put EcoBoost engines in Super Duty trucks either so that’s not an option now is it?
I am seeing more and more company’s buying the 7.3 motors in their F250’s all the way up to the F550’s especially the companies that have large fleets. If they don’t need the maximum towing, the gas is a much better choice. They get the job done at a cheaper input cost and less possibility’s of emmision related problems.
Just an FYI-
Doing some research on Fords website it looks like there is only about a 400lbs difference in the weight from the gas 7.3 about 600lbs verse the Diesel 6.7 about 1000lbs…
I would agree and disagree on the oil changes. Fresh oil is always best but I would steer people toward buying the best oil and changing at the recommended intervals. If you skimp out and buy cheap oil then yes change it often like you said.
Most oil test results come back showing that most equipment gets changed well before the oil deteriorates. Recommended intervals is being real safe
I don't think that I want to wait till 10,000 miles to change my oil on my 7.3.
@@wallyyuriy8912 People don't want to hear actual scientific evidence they want to go off how they feel.
@@Tool0GT92how people feel also takes into consideration of how they drive. More stop n go city=more often change interval. 1 year and 10k is ok if it's mainly highway. I don't drive more than 10k in a year with my 7.3. So, always change less than 8k. My last oil change was around 6 or 7 month interval and around 5k miles, just because I had a hard on for pennzoil platinum ultra for some reason...
Previously used ams @ 1k and 8k and mobil1 @ 16k and 23k
I have a 2022 5.7hemi and it's recommended 6000 mile oil change and 10000 on diesel
Great demonstration , Love the Review!
I have a 7.3 and love it! My buddy has the 6.7 and also thought his was bigger and badder. Even if my is 3" taller... he had to us my truck to tow a trail when his was I. Shop cause the DEF filter was having issues. He loved it and no longer gives me shit. Great video thanks for making it!
Def used to be 7.99 a jug. The price is ridiculously now! Also JB you contradicted yourself when sayin the dpf would get clocked quicker with no load then said you’ll use more def when putting the truck in high load requirements
The 7.3 all day. No def fluid. The fuel filter isnt $100 each and it cost. A lot less initially.
With the price difference between gas and diesel last few years up here in Canada. My next pickup will be a gasser. Between expensive diesel and def issues. Makes no sense to run a diesel.
With how far gas engines have come and truck improvements along with the manufactures not caring about 10000 gvwr on 2500 I’ve almost come to the conclusion that 2500 should be single wheel and 3500 should just be dually.
I'm a diesel fan boy. But for daily driver, the gas is more economical and practical imo. Especially if your doing short drives. Less hassle with no emissions bs.
When it comes to towing, the 6.7 powerstroke all day. Diesel is much better for higher elevations too. I have a early 22 f350 tremor 6.7, 89k miles using amsoil oil, archoil ar6500 every fill up and not one single mechanical issue. Oil change every 5k miles, fuel filters every 10k, and I tow a 17k 5th wheel
I had a 2020 King Ranch 7.3 and I currently have a 24 6.7 high output say what you want to make your mental feel better but the diesel is the boss truck. But there are guys out there that are fine with having an XLT but I'm looking to hop out of my truck and not only use it but also feel like I have a boss truck
I rarely tow. Only 3k pounds on a flat bed trailer now and again, but my commute to the office is about an hour each way. Is it still crazy to consider the 6.7?
I did a build on a 7.3 and it was a $7k upgrade from the standard engine, the 6.7 L was $10k more. Basically a diesel is a $3k premium over the 7.3. For me the diesel would be worth the extra cost.
What is lifter failure rate for the gas vs cp4 fuel pump failure rate? Thanks
I still drive my 7.3 diesel. I'm a creature of habit. Over 300,000 and still runs like new
If people drove a well built, well tuned diesel that wasn't choked down on power then they'd see what the attraction is. Instead of adding all the emissions stuff on the exhaust side, you could add a water methenol injection system on the intake side and get even better cheaper, more reliable benefits. The efficiency and life span of diesel are about double of that a well built gas engine, save for Ford's 460 and inline 6.
Dad and I are driving a 7.3. The fuel economy (~11 around town) is painful right now with the cost of gas. We wanted to go Diesel but couldn't justify the extra cost. And we don't tow that much so really dealing with the price of diesel fuel and managing DEF, gas is the better option for us.
I have a friend with a 22 F250 with the 7.3 and towing his 11000 enclosed car hauler he gets a solid 6mpg. No thanks.
@@x3dominator28 he needs to trade in for a diesel
Lol yes I agree with that statement. Depends who is in office. Fuel prices need to come back down. I have a 2018 6.7 and I own a landscaping business. I just do not need the diesel, especially with the added headache and maintenance. I never thought I’d say it because I absolutely love the 6.7 but it’s just not for me anymore. Going to be selling mine for a 7.3!
I get around 6-8 mpg in town in my brand new 7.3 with 4.30 rear end. Combined mileage after 1500 miles is about 10.5 mpg according to the truck. Not too happy with that. If I baby it on the highway doing 70mph empty it'll get 14-15 mpg. Yay?
1. Do you really want a diesel? Get what you want. 2. Do you need a diesel to tow heavy, like over 10K pounds? The 7.3 is fine, even in hills, under that weight. 3. Do you understand there's no fuel savings when you figure you'll pay $200 month extra for the engine choice ($267 less fuel cost annually, on average, than the 7.3)? That's based on todays interest rates. 4. Do you pin your hopes on resale value despite not having any data to back that up?
Personally, I am more afraid of a diesel with 250k on it than a gas one. Though the gas motors tire out before a diesel, it also seems that gas motors handle harsher abuse than many diesels do. Not to mention if you get a high mileage but nice truck in either one, and the motor goes to hell, one can be replaced for 7 to 9k and the other is 20 to 25.
How much can each power plant tow? 475 torque and 1050 torque is a big difference
I can always appreciate the Rats Nest wiring and tubing routing on the Ford Engines.
They just don't give a crap. 🙂
Had an engineering intern do the routing designs?
I heard a lot of opinion but not a lot of specifics in this show... I am not interested in opinion. I have had several trucks including Ford 7.3Diesel, Ford 6.7 Diesel, Chevrolet 454 Gas. Hands down the best enginge I have ever had concerning pulling a load, (Torque, Hp) daily driving , mileage,is the 2024 Ford 6.7 Diesel which I purchased recently. Crew Cab, 4WD, 8' Bed, in town and all around mileage is 21.5, towing with a 12,000 load giving me better than 16 mpg uo hill and down hill all around. Longevity is not hard to determine since this engine has been on the market for over 15 years. Lots of reviews over the yeras and lots of problems with the early versions, but today's engines are well refined and in my estimation one of the best diesel engines on the market.
I have the 7.3 in a f350 tremor. I think they recommend 8 or 10k miles for oil changes. About the only benefit to a diesel is if you tow a lot. And even though the diesel has a higher tow rating you Tent towing 30k lbs with one of these cause it would be hell to stop regardless of the engine.
DEF is only bad when repairs are needed and not covered under warranty 7k plus to replace
I just bought the 250 gas
Very simple.
Gas-450 hp, 450 ft.lbs. torque.
Diesel-450 hp, 1050 ft.lbs. torque.
(approx.)
NEVER A MOMENT OF DOUBT when driving an uncharted incline during my travels on an unfamiliar road with my heavy trailer.
It's worth EVERY penny.
With the prices of these trucks, do people really quibble about fuel and maintenance?
Just as last post stated, "what are you doing with the truck?"
With a $1.05 per gallon higher cost of diesel here in Kalifornia, gas wins hands down.
I live in CA and not so much recently. I've even seen diesel around the same price as the 91 octane. Still don't get why diesel is more money than gas. The refining process has to cost less.
Night and day comparison. It depends on your purpose and situation.
Could I get you to weigh in on the "delamination" of parts within the 7.3 gas? I don't tow enough or heavy enough for a diesel. I also live where diesel tends to jell in the wintertime due to cold. I don't want to deal with that either. I'm very interested in a 7.3 gas, but am concerned about the delamination issues of parts in the engine causing engine failure. Please let me know what you think.
-- no chance he weighs in. Either he doesn’t know, or doesn’t have enough guts to say it on Youtoob, Ford could nuke his channel.
From what I've heard and seen it was a very few of the first runs of the 7.3 with issues. Never buy the first couple years of new engine to be safe but they should be good to go now. Alot of it was overblown due to social media and this being the most popular and the most hated engine in along time. Not only do you have ram and gm haters as usual but you have haters from diesel guys even some powerstroke guys hate this engine cause it's putting in work for less money and complications then the modern diesels. This engine gets alot of hype praise and hate guess it comes with the territory.
More issues with the transmission (designed for the Powerstroke) than there ever was with the engine.
I hear these new 23 diesels are absolutely drinking the DEF. I can't personally confirm this. But that's the word and the complaint.
My 23 Ram HO drinks def and looks like it will need fuel filter service at every oil change. re sale of a gasser will be a big dis appointment for most folks.
my 23 F-250 gets about 4k miles per DEF fill up. Dont know if thats good or bad
The whole gas Vs diesel debate will continue on forever. Both sides have their extremist for sure.
My opinion is buy what you want and that you can afford. Because both will do just about anything you want these days.
There is misconceptions on both sides that I want to mention. One is routine oil changes. Gas engines are not always cheaper here. I can use GM for the example. The L5P holds 10 quarts and does not require synthetic oil. The L8T holds 8 quarts and does require synthetic. So the oil actually cost more for the gasser. And then resale value is another myth. Diesels do bring more for trade typically but they also cost $10,000 more. And once an emissions in tact diesel breaks 100,000 miles their value drops like a rock.
Right now I'm going to say the 7 3 gas because I have a 6.7 diesel engine and it's in the shop getting the complete fuel system redone because of the def fluid crystallized in the def tank and getting to the fuel pump and fuel lines coasting me 15000 to get fixed
I don't understand. How did def get in the fuel system?
They should also do a video on 1999 Ford Super Duty 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel
vs
2024 Ford Super Duty 6.7 Powerstroke Diesel
vs
2024 Ford Super Duty 7.3 Godzilla Gasoline
Reasons why I included the 1999 Ford Super Duty 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel:
First, 7.3 gas vs 7.3 diesel
Second 7.3 diesel was manufactured until 2003 due to stricter California emission standards.
Can you explain how whomever is in office controls gas prices 🤔. Thanks.
Shutting down pipelines, denying exploration and leases, etc.
It's called supply and demand, less supply, more price, Bidennomics.
Which pipeline ? @@turbolq4
So he controls the supply of oil to the states? How so? @@TIREDOFEVIL
Oil changes same thing both should be done at 5000 miles . You push a diesel to 7500 that’s fine short term but long term your just costing yourself more .They both call for oil changes between 8-10 k but no one in their right mind runs oil that long unless it’s a lease
My gripe with the 7.3 is, that's it's not a flex fuel engine. There's no excuse for it not to be. I'm a Farmer, and I'll burn ethanol fuel when it's a choice. ( I'm driving a 2012 F350 flex fuel 6.2L that I ordered new. )
Is the 6.7 better now compared to the 6.0/6.4 horror stories I've heard ?
Add the cost of oil changes,dpf filter and exhaust not covered under warranty and the cost of fuel unless absolutely needed and making money with the truck the gas is the way to go.
12g more,1 dollar plus more a gallon, def fluid,oil changes even with worse mpg it'll take a while to save that kind of money going diesel vs gas
As an Australian it’s weird you guys pick petrol. I understand petrol is cheaper in the US, whereas diesel is cheaper here but diesel torque beats petrol power anytime for driving.
6.7 diesel baby, turbo diesel is unbeatable!
I wish the 7.3 didn't have so many valve train issues. There's more and more people on the forums and RUclips with lower mileage engine failure claims.
Lots of “claims”. People like saying “it happened to mine” but no videos or pictures to back it up. Ford service stats, real numbers. It’s not a problem.
The 6.7 has a lot of problems I would not recommend it to anybody! I got Close to $30,000 in repairs this year alone including replacing the Engine, Turbo, and bunch of other things that I don't even want to get into too! Expensive Truck to own....From the research that I've done the oiling system is the main problem in the 6.7 and the Def System is a nightmare in it self! If you upgrade the oil pump to a better one you solve a lot of problems!
I wish that you could get the 7.3L in an Expedition...
That would be a fantastic option. Bumper tow a big ass camper and has tons of room in the vehicle for the family... A killer combo for sure.
Used to be you could get a 7.3 Powerstroke in the old Excursion or the V10. To me that old 7.3 was the cats meow.
What about 6.8 liter
Great motor just not a torque monster down low
6.8 is proven and great for everyday use
I find it odd the American market is the only one that is so against diesel. Other countries have diesel sedans and wagons and vans but in the U.S even 7,000 lb trucks and RVs and Uhauls come in gas it makes no sense. Americans are still buying vehicles like gas is $.25
Total different societies.
a good 75% of diesel owners today really no have business owning one.
my work truck is a 1995 Chevy K2500 6.5L Diesel. our daily driver / family hauler is a 2004 GMC 1500 Yukon XL 5.3L gas and my personal cruising truck is a 1989 Chevy C1500 5.7L gas.
one hauls tools and building materials. the others haul people. the diesel gets better mileage than the yukon, but only by 100-150 km per tank. both are about 90% highway driven all the time. my C1500 gets the same mileage as my diesel with some light fuel mods. unless a diesel owner has a business and can write off mileage and other expenses, just having a diesel simply to have one is dumb and speaks volumes of the owner.
Better for milage, towing, better resale value, putting on 300,000.00 - 400,000 plus miles would be Diesel.
Yes they are more money but you can't get all of this with a 7.3 gas
The 7.3 has to be a big upgrade over the 6.2 boss, I'm not a big fan of that engine for HD use, it's powerband makes it seem like it would be more at home in a mustang not a 3/4 or 1 ton truck.the 6.2 doesn't seem to have very good low rpm TQ but yeah it pulls hard in the upper rpms, that's great n all but not really ideal in a heavy 4wd pickup. We have two 6.2s at my job one a 2017 3/4 to extended cab one a 2020ish 1 ton 4 door with a utility body and even the 3/4 ton you punch it from a stop it slowly glides away, if you blip the gas it does nothing except the rpms flaring, yeah I know a lot of that is the transmission which in my opinion is hot garbage. Once the rpms get up some it wakes right up, an odd power and for a HD pickup, Another weird thing is you punch it to say pass and it will drop into a gear that's so low it just sends the engine way to high where it can't really go anywhere then an upshift then it pulls good, again what's going on here. The 2017 with a bed full of tools nothing crazy averaged 11 mpg on the interstate cruising, that is best case scenario for fuel economy and it's terrible, the 2020 around rural roads was seeing 7 to 9 mpg easy driving. So I'm thinking the 6.2 doesn't shine as a practical truck engine. It's to bad the aftermarket never embraced the 6.2 boss, the boss name comes from how similar it is to the boss 429 the 6.2 boss is a modern sohc hemi which is cool as hell. It was the bad boy engine in the raptor so why it never caught on as a performance engine option anywhere else is weird. That would have been a cool engine in the 06 Ford GT vs the 5.4 but the 5.4 was a dohc 32v
Hey I gotta tell you man a lot of your information is incorrect.
I have a fleet of 13 trucks where we deliver heavy loads for companies such as building air conditioners, piping, etc. all over Texas Oklahoma Missouri and Louisiana.
I can tell you right now unless you’re towing 20,000 pounds or more regularly you do not want a diesel.
The cost of ownership is so high now with the oil changes which have to be done between 5000 or 7500 miles because of the suit buildup from the emission system or you will lose that engine. The emission systems destroy these engines and idling is horrific on them now.
I started off with diesel’s and I’ve had so many problems that I’ve switched over to F350 gas trucks. My entire fleet except for three trucks are all gas 7.3 L V8 engines. I have them equipped to tow regularly between 13,000 and 18,000 pounds and they do that day in and day out with no problems.
The cost of ownership is around 40% less and cost $13,000 less per truck when I bought them.
I could never recommend to anyone to buy a diesel unless you’re towing extremely heavy weight. Now, I do have three F450 trucks that are built and designed to do heavy loads which are typically around 25,000 pounds to 30,000 pounds which at that point you absolutely have to have a diesel. But, because of the revenue I generate from those loads it pays for the extra maintenance and extra cost of having those three trucks. Those type of loads are more rare hence why I only have three of those trucks.
For most of us you don’t need a diesel get the gas save your money trust me you will thank me for it.
In turms of the dpf and rhe whole emission system countless trucks go out all the time because of the aftertreatment system people load rhese vehicle up and the damn thing still goes out map limp mode egt sensor limp mode run it long and hard they say yet people still have problems out of them i have been for a minjte thinking about getting one since driving is going crazy for me with gas prices being the way they are where i'm at and deisel being a dollar more then gas here with the way driving is for me that is adding up if it continues i may have to get a deisel for.the sakes of milage
I've did the math... for.my use... my gas prices, mpg, and worst case scenario on diesel vs gas... it would take me 13 yrs to make the diesel worth it in MONETARY terms. With that being said.. I'll probably not have one past 5 yrs.. due to factory warranty.
@@deal492 with the way me is driving everyday it makes me wonder i have to drive 30 miles to and from work and on weekends or when I'm not working I have to be out like all day sometimes to fill up is costing quite a bit I am honestly wondering if it will save a bit if I got an old diesel or something I'm not dealing with emissions
Who wants a used diesel out of warranty when they like grenading fuel systems? I had the diesels for 25 years and I would never go back. I can put an entire long Block in a 7.3 gas for half the price of what a fuel system cost in a 6.7. Fuel is also a dollar to $1.25 a gallon most of the Year where I live.
Good video
I've had nothing but gas trucks. 2012 6.2 and 2006 5.4 3V. Both near 400k miles as granite install trucks, So always overweight. Both 2WD. All the other guys work with have significantly higher operating costs on the 3 different diesel trucks. While the gas truck has garbage resale, they are work trucks. Resale doesn't matter, what matters is cost per mile and long term stability. I still drive the 2006 and it has no intention of letting up anytime soon.
Take the gas, in minus 30 the diesel fuel filters freeze up, very inconvenient and expensive
It is much better to not have gas because it is highly volatile.
300m cars in the us says otherwise.
The gasser has more payload capacity due to government regulations not capability.
7.3...
No cab off repairs, and if you get a modern diesel, you'll be fixing it.
With all the E.P.A. CRAP on modern diesels, it definitely has very negative effects and seriously degrades it's reliability and life span. So, unless you're doing any daily heavy towing, i.e. hotshot trucking you should stay away from them. 6.8 looks nice and less costly ($3k option and mpg) than 7.3 if extra power isn't required.
I don't like the new diesel pickups I would take a 7.3 diesel
the Godzilla gets spanked by f150’s with the 3.5 ecoboost while towing up to 10,000 pounds. There it is I said it
Nope
Most of the people that have a diesel truck have no reason to have one. They just want to be cool
Get a grip if you're just a grocery store runner by a gas truck
“The diesel makes people feel cool”……hahahaha, you must be talking about the Ram guys.
Neither. It says FORD on it. I'm a lifelong Ford guy and the next new Ford I buy will be a 1995 or before. Anything newer than that the engines and transmissions are junk, electronics and electrical systems are junk, and engineering is a disaster. Just sayin.
"Deso "
Keep you political thoughts to yourself.
Right smh
@@house2249He is only speaking facts
Does it hurt your feelings to hear the truth?
Heck my F150 hybrid v6 makes 430hp 570 rt lbs of torque . Gets alot better fuel mileage.
Yep. I traded a 2020 F250 7.3 gasser for a 2022 F150 3.5. I'm getting about 10 more MPGs. 😂