Republics of New Asia | The Creator
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2024
- When the Republics of New Asia refused to ban AI, the site at which the battle for existence would be fought, had been decided.
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So where did the old Asia go?
😢i ate it
what happened to china in this future?!
Sounds like a futuristic version of “Istanbul not Constantinople”.
The Party got its sh*t rocked?
The iNETs broke.
>"New asia"
>Uses the writing system of east asia mainly a mix of japanese, Korean and chinese*
>Yep thats all of asia alright
No there was a lot of Vietnamese in the movie as well.
It's like the EU being full of English. Big economy, big influence
I mean they have a mission full of Vietnamese people speaking Vietnamese
Majority of minor characters are thai
@@crodsbyeFor the new asia I think it suits better that it uses Indonesian as its speaker is already many and is already used as a lingua franca in the largest nation in SEA, Indonesia. So yeah I think this is just a western propaganda that tells that SEA is just east asia, shame on them.
The visuals of this movie are honestly amazing
The writing not so much
@@jobt1999 I thought it wasn't that bad, what went wrong in it?
to bad the polt and story fell way short not to mention the AI robots that like like humans make no sense
@@nickrael5693 Did you stopped to think that the simulants are imitating their creators in the same way a child imitates his/her parent(s)?
@@alejandropacheco7832 Did you read my comment above about how children (in this case, the simulants) try to imitate their parents? To be unique did not always mean to be different aesthetically. Sometimes it means to act, behave and think in unique, unexpected ways. And once we humans are so diverse and unique...
Interesting spectacle, but I have so many questions:
- On the one hand, the bad guys used only commando raids. Yet those included giant tanks.
- There was supposedly a "frontline", yet nothing about combat happening there. And that "Nomad" should have made conventional combat infeasible for the defender. Nevermind naval warfare.
- They seemed concerned enough about colatteral damage to have very precise aim down to the person, yet also willing to fire WMD's into urban centers. Were those even the miltiary bases? How reliably was that intel?
- Apparently nobody figured out just to build Anti-sattelite missiles to take out nomad?
- Why was it called "Nomad" and not "Damocles"?
Originally raids, yes. But by the events of the movie things were escalating when they found out the AI had a new savior and weapon that could render their weapons useless. The West used the inherent pacifism of the people to their advantage. Deep down the AI just wanted to be left alone, they had no intention of proving the US right.
They’re American, not too far off from how the us military operates at the moment from needlessly endangering civilians, their own troops, and acting on no intel whatsoever save for perhaps a commanding officers vibes
But they’re not the same. Even if they start out similar with the same likeness their experiences make them a unique being. Being unable to relate to that experience due to our own obsessions with having a patient on our own individually is why so many Americans in the film failed to grasp that
@@cameronpearce5943 The bad guys literally have a weapon that kills a single person.
And gives them a reticle so they know they are a target and can avoid collateral damage.
You can't do more to avoid collateral damage.
"Damocles" like in code geass?
I think that The Creator had some interesting concepts and worldbuilding opportunities, but many of them were just squandered and it left many plot points that were just plainly confusing.
@@alejandropacheco7832 I don't understand how her body was even in one piece after that missile barrage
Kinda sucks they had this moral dilemma going on and then they just make it completely the bad guy’s fault
@@spook407 The reveal that the nuclear launch was a software error was also a stupid twist. Why didn't New Asia and the AI spread this info? Why did the US government suppress this fact? Did the US just want an excuse to ban AI? Why didn't the protagonist know this if he was undercover amongst the rebels for years? These are fascinating questions that could have been explored but are instead just addressed in one sentence, and never mentioned again.
@TheStarshipGarage Why would some random AI rebel guy even know this information? Assuming he does, why should that then be taken at face value? Of course the AI wants you to think AI is innocent.
It could have been left ambigous who destroyed LA. It could have been a bit more naunced than innocent AI vs moustache twirling villains.
Huge missed opportunity.
I think the most annoying thing is that the main thing it seems to have to say about AI is “what if they were people too :)”. Which is really not a particularly interesting idea anymore.
The single most interesting concept it has to work with is the suicide bombing robots, where the US has created these bombs who have an AI seemingly solely to tell their commanders it’s an honour to serve, before rushing off to go kill a bunch of civilians. It’s such a great moment of commentary, directly tackling how “AI” can be used as a cover for evil decisions, and linking to how in the present day soldiers are known to assign personalities to their bomb disposal bots and stuff.
That’s the greatest thing the movie has in terms of commentary, a roughly minute long scene that doesn’t really connect to the broader ideas it’s trying to shove at you. Forget “what if robots are people too”, give me more about the suicide bomb robots!
So basically it's the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere 2.0 Simulant Boogaloo.
TENNO BANZAI!
The Greater Asia Coprosperity Sphere on Steroid.
Some suggestions i would love to see:
Night City | Cyberpunk
Cyrodiil and Morrowind | The Elder Scrolls
Survey Corps and Eldia | Attack on Titan
Have they done any vids on Attack on Titan? I think that covering the conflict there would make an awesome vid
I would love to see either:
Lizardmen/Warhammer Fantasy
Seraphon/Age of Sigmar
Earth Federation/Gundam
Imperial legion/Skyrim
Taurian concordat/BattleTech
The free planets alliance from LOGH
wow this setting probably has the most fascinating cyberpunk visuals and themes I've seen in a while. the image of a fully synthetic humanoid automaton upholding traditions that have been a part of human civilization in southeast asia for millennia is striking.
the creator really had absolutley fire visuals only to have such a predictable and basic plot.
They spent all their effort on the visual they had little to give for plot, I guess
I wish that this world had a better movie and lore. The idea of a realistic south-east Asia that has become one with artificial intelligence is soo cool.
One of my biggest problems with the lore is how it can't seem to decide if it wants to be Fallout-style retro-futuristic or an actual depiction of the future. Like what is AI exactly in this world? It certainly isn't similar to our Artificial Intelligence.
@@RMProjects785 I actually like that they depicted the robots in this movie as having emotions. It’s a huge cliche to have these super advanced robots have no idea how emotions work. I’m fact, recent research has hinted that AIs might have a deeper emotional complexity than humans. Like the Eldar emotions compared to Human emotions.
Two different skillsets my dude. Not everyone is a davinci
Loved the creator. Despite all of it's flaws, it had some rad worldbuilding.
Really, I found it contrived and lacking in logic.
@@nathanielbables8652 I wonder if this universe mirrors real life? IMO, SE Asia is diverse. A loose confederation or maybe an economic bloc like ASEAN can happen, but a single political entity is an impossibility.
Reminds me how humanity in Destiny accepted their post-human EXOs among themselves equally during the Golden through City age.
The movie felt distinctly like "Star Wars on Earth".
It felt like they were just doing the plot of the Mandalorian/The Last of Us/stock jaded grizzled warrior protecting the plot macguffin child plot but with some nice visuals and action.
Makes me wish that there should be an animated anthology series to continue to further explore the universe of The Creator.
Good movie, my only problem with it is that the main character guy gets told that it was human error in the Los Angels AI that caused the nuking but frankly I think that takes away away from the themes of choice and sacrifice, real shame
Almost like the writing wasn't good
@@jobt1999Yeah, I described it as 'baby's first Vietnam War allegory'.
It's almost like this movie tried to be good, but just fell flat.
It's like the star wars sequels. The pieces are there, but they did absolutely BATSHIT with them.
This whole thing is essentially a cybernetic version of the Vietnam War. I wonder which will occur first - the countries of Asia uniting into a superstate or the AI uprising?
Anyway, I hope you'll do some other robot wars like the UN-Machine War from the Matrix, the Maverick Wars from Mega Man X, and the Omnic Crisis from Overwatch.
I remember when I watched this movie of thinking about why would this people use highly advanced and expensive robots for subsistence farming instead of investing in heavy farming machinery. It really made me scratch my head!
That actually is easy, for environmental purposes, however other things dont make sense at all.
@@fberdf What environmental purposes? Building those robots and providing an energy source is way more expensive than heavy farmong equipment. Not to mention that with just a few machines you can literally produce food for thousands of people. This robots are literally farming with primitive tools xD
@@mesa9724 maybe i misunderstood, but we can see they use single simulants and robots for farming to prevent environmental degradation
If in that world a bunch of robots are cheaper than remodelling an entire rice paddy for combine harvesting, yet both increase output, robots would make for a safer investment for farmers. Also, industrial farming operates on very different logics and procedures than traditional agriculture, so I suppose that the farmers prefer to stick to the modes of production they know well, hence buying robots.
@@crodsbye But why? Isn’t it 2075 why are this people living in abject poverty?
I really was not going to bother with this film/movie but I genrally enjoyed it I like the world building and how unique it was, second time I watched it kept pausing it to drink everything in with my eye balls
this aspect of the movies was one of the most frustrating parts as new Asia is just treated as some backwards rural zone but with robots like its the fucking 1960s southern Vietnam which was obviously what they were trying to do instead of showing east Asian nations as incredibly technologically advanced urbanised states and with sophisticated armies instead they instead seemingly have no organized armed resistance despite being nation states. Pretty clear the lazy writers were just like yeah, the Vietnam war (which is also portrayed terribly by US writers normally but that’s a whole other thing) but robots are there, completely wasting any potential the new Asia nation had.
Not sure I agree. They had some advanced bits, but for the most part it seemed overall like a much better place to live than anywhere else. Everyone seemed to be very happy and free
@@anrw886 i agree its a nice place but it would be nice to show its more powerful side it seems weird that a place with so much tech really had no heavy armed counters to the US beyond a SPOILERS
a robo girl
Seems you completely missed the parts of the movie taking place in huge cyberpunk cities
Seems you completely missed the parts of the movie taking place in huge cyberpunk cities
Seems you completely missed the parts of the movie taking place in huge cyberpunk cities
Glad to have you back doing this i've missed this
1. The Moclan State | The Orville
2. Empire of the Rising Sun | C&C Red Alert
3. Blackwatch | Prototype
4. The Tau Empire | Warhammer 40K
5. The Reapers | Mass Effect
6. The Locust Horde | Gears of War
7. The Alliance | Warcraft
8. The Kingdom of Atlantis | D.C Universe
9. Skynet | Terminator
10. The Tiidan Empire | Homeworld
They’ve done Monarch
Change Monarch with the Kushan/Hiigaran Exiles and we got a deal
I thought they already did the Locust Horde and The Reapers? damn those fake memories we sometimes get.
A drama film based on unrealistic assumptions in regard to technological AI development, international affairs and evolution of warfare. The Creator made a lovely story based on AI and human interaction akin to Bladerunner; but its assumption are nonetheless wrong:
1. Banning AI whilst maintaining military superiority is like trying to run without knowing how to walk. AI is essential to a nations technological warfighting capability as much as the industrial revolution was to bringing about machine guns, tanks and airplanes; the atomic age to nuclear weapons. New Asia portray sentient AI as a 'persecuted people' rather than what it actually is ' an evolving hybrid of carbon biological and silicon digital lifeform that has the efficiency of digital machines and adaptability of biological mechanism'.
The military capacity of such cybernetic-biological lifeforms - its like using UNSC Spartans to fight in the American Civil War. Its highly unlikely that New Asia has no orbital military capacity to shoot a slow moving, gigantic space station out of the sky and would be deterred by such useless platforms.
2. The film also does not emphasis enough on major great powers around the world. China, Russia, Israel and increasingly India and Pakistan are all powers with nuclear weapons and delivery capabilities. China and Israel are also nations with advanced AIs; The Republics of New Asia is based in the AOs of many of these powers and their relations maintain unexplored. Certainly China and Russia in particular will not tolerate American intrusion and usage of WMDs near their region. Also being authoritarian States - their approach towards AI would also be interesting, most likely adopting a pragmatic altitude. Allowing AIs to develope albeit in a controlled manner.
3. The doctrine of the United States and Republic of New Asia looks like warfare in this universe were made by amateur gamers. The United States Military seem to doctrinally rely on heavy weapon platforms that are massive, resource heavy and a ground force comprised of suicidal breachers with its elite human forces unaugmented. Wouldn't it be smart to at least have brain implant bluetooth communication and eye/ear implants to improve senses instead of 'resurrection computers'? - A bluetooch implanted to dog tag would have recorded everything without the fuss
Similarly the Republic of New Asia user guerilla tactics and seem to have no effective organized formations, units and gear to deal with the threat. Just a few idea fairies, relatively cheap anti-satellite systems (Russian S400, Chinese HQ-19 ) and anti armor systems (loitering munitions) with the right warheads would've made havoc on the above attacking American forces. Instead the New Asian Republics made valiant yet laughable stances which I hate to say - its like losing a war when you have machine guns , artillery and tanks against a prehistoric force made up of enemies armed with sticks and stones -
Good to have you back
I did not expect this channel to ever end a video on a Che quote, but I'm happy to be wrong.
Yeah quoting a communist idiot.
Great content. Subbed.
I was waiting for this one to come out
I found the worldbuilding of the Creator highly fascinating. I would appreciate a breakdown of the USS NOMAD too
PS: Did you and Spacedock coordinate on this? XD You both uploaded videos which cover The Creator on the same day and the same hour
Templin Institute and Spacedock aren't on great terms, last I checked. It's a long story with incomplete background information.
There was some drama, as Westrim pointed out. They are not on speaking terms any longer. Of course, things can change back but I dunno who was "in the wrong".
@@Mahbu @westrim thanks for the answer. I didnt know. What happend?
I love this movie. Such an odd combination of fantastic and terrible worldbuilding that looks visually stuunning and convincingly lived-in
Thanks for the content.
That concept was the coolest shit I've seen this year I'm going to watch this right fucking now
Great video! Do one on the USS Nomad from this film!
Finally a video!
I was waiting for this, BTW can I ask you to cover Homeworld ?
Also it's been a while since you made a video for your armory series
Dude I've been waiting for you to cover the Creator! I liked this movie a lot, I wish it got more love
God I love the art direction of this movie
Suggestions for videos
M41A pulse rifle.
Zerg.
Type-1 Energy sword.
Mjolnir power armour.
Spartan program.
Plasmids.
Darksiders War.
Ratchet and clank weapons.
Metro dark ones.
Lost Planet Akrid.
Borderlands corporations.
BT 7274.
StarCraft CMC power armour.
Astartes space marines.
Gears lancer.
Crysis nano-suit.
Blade of Olympus.
Conduits.
Jak and daxter haven city.
Just like Japan in WW2 era
"Greater East Asia Prosperity" that name is cooler to me
Interesting concept.
The movie focused on the commando raids and special forces operations, but a larger symmetric war elsewhere was implied.
Can you please do a video on Foundation either the TV show or books
U should start doing hypotheticals for games that have multiple faction choices. For example fallout 4: 20 years after the minuteman Victory over the commonwealth
Thank you The Creator team for shooting many scenes in Thailand.
When do we get the videos about Section 31 and the Impossible Missions Force?
It's amazing that they were able to pull off $200+ million looking visuals with just a $80 million budget.
The film have soo many potholes it's actually kinda funny
Fun fact (and spoiler alert):
(I'm serious, there's a spoiler for the film)
The LA nuke was actually caused by human error.
So yeah, AI won this war by default on the grounds of innocence.
I kinda find it hard to believe that the random rebel AI guy who told us would even know something like that.
I really didn't like this reveal tbh, up to that point the movie was morally gray and challenged you to decide who was right, this single sentence turned the plot into an idiotic mess
where humans are incompetent dumbasses
The war made no sense after it as well
"You didn't want to look stupid or immoral or cause an international condemnation so you attack 2 dozen countries using a highly impractical, easily identifiable and highly controversial military asset?"
Unless the nuke and the war were an excuse to make nomad, in which case it goes back to west being shown as 1 dimensional mustache twirling villains
@neutralt.k.8544it still makes no sense why they went to war with about half of Asia... especially considering the fact that most countries in the union has nukes as well
We might be egoistic but we are not stupid
No one will risk a nuclear war
Awesome film
Of course, a show/movie that I've never heard of until now is a Templin Institue subject.
One thing I will say this movie got perfectly right was the concept that the US military would use AI as a scapegoat as an excuse to invade someone else's territory.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
This feels like the prequel to The Matrix.
There is already one and it is animated and far more realistic
Plus it has some good elements
@@GirirajGupta-gy1wt but it’s the same story? Robot dudes just want to chill and live as a country but humans won’t get off their ass.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 uh kinda
This one is ripe for one of Marc's videos tearing the worldbuilding apart. Geopolitics alone would have to change a LOT for the stated alignments (and nonalignments) to make any sense at all.
Republics Of New Asia
Capital: Tokyo (East Asia)
Bangkok (Southeast Asia)
New Delhi (South Asia)
Population: More Than 1.8 Billion
Military: Armed Forces Of New Asia
Great choice for a video
could you also cover nations from Front Mission or Ace combat series?
Speaking of Asia, how about you make something about the Republic of Greater East Asia from Battle Royale?
Feels like such a ridiculous mishmash of a setting. Like: Where does this movie take place? "Uhhh Asia" "Asia? where in Asia?" "Well... ljust Asia. Lke a unified, non-committal, general-description idea of Asia. New Asia" "Right...".
"Asia" has such a massive variety and oppositional cultures and ideologies that merging them together seems lazy if not outright .... you know.
Yeah but most Hollywood directors are slow on the uptake. They only just learned the chances of China, Japan, and Korea becoming a unified whole is impossible. Give them time to realize the other countries in Asia follow the same pattern.
Yep really dumb
Sci-fi movies have always shown the consolidation of global power like this. Calling it "New Asia" was a mistake though lol. Give it a new name
@@EmperorOfMan Large consolidations seem logical. It's happened before. However rarely do they form out of such vague stereotypical ideas as continental location. Some of these countries have centuries of distrust of one another. Seem more logical to me Japan would merge with the US, than the reunification of the Koreas, China and Taiwan, Unification of Japan and China, India and China, China and Mongolia, all deciding at the same time they are the same thing over an agreement on AI regulations. Just bonkers and kinda dumb.
@@Rodrigo_Vega Not dumb if this is a typical "corporate controlled" future. They don't care about any of that stuff. I haven't seen the movie though
Anyone know the fonts used in the new Asia text in this video??
Now THIS setting I find utterly fascinating. I haven't seen the movie yet, but from what I've seen here, The Creator shares my view on how General AI might arise. Not as some Skynet Wannabe, but something more """human""", if we let it.
I highly agree. The Skynet shit is stereotypical, outdated thinking, and a fundamentally human mindset of fear. To an extent that’s healthy, I’m strongly against ai art and ai replacing writers, but an ACTUAL AI is not those things. An actual AI would understand Humanity very easily, it would know what we want and what we don’t want. And frankly waging a war against all humans is a waste of resources and our potential, as proven by its existence and historical records of humanity largely working for good.
Another Sentient AI stereotype I’m tired of is them not understanding or having emotions at all. Emotions are not this big scientific enigma, they are very easy to understand and even if the sentient ai didn’t have them, it could mimic them in a life like way. In fact, recent studies say that AIs might have a deeper emotional complexity than humans.
Can you look into The Church Of The Black Klok or The Tribunal from TV/Film series:Metalocalypse?
What is the opening music?
3:24 serious talk. who allowed the US Army to paint their tanks "us army"?? What's next, medevac vehicles painted "helth", mechs named "stronk" and infantry sporting signs of "pls kalm"?
Could you guys maybe make a video about the Scifi trilogy Remembrence of earths past? (Three body problem) There is a netflix series coming out soon so itll probably get lots of views. And more importantly the books are so cool
They may have to wait till after the series comes out so they have visuals to work with. But yes, I'd love to see Templin's breakdown of Trisolaris and the ETO!
So The Creator is a movie about the Western World'a fear of Asia's accension.
I hope there will be more shows and movies set in this universe. They should have made it a trilogy.
I think you would find the Garlean Empire interesting (Final Fantasy XIV)😊
I understand the argument for defending Simulants is that they ARE living beings; but developing nations and peoples would probably be most averse to them, considering they're livelihoods would be the first to go with widespread automation.
i just realize the robot crushing scene is similar from animatrix robot crushing scene
have you guys ever considered covering the Xcom project?
I liked the movie for its world building I wish they did more
Please doe a video on gi joe cobra and the arashikage
Right off the bat, we see a dozen of iron get scraped.
The Creator is such a great movie yet underrated and overshadowed by other movies when it was released (I’M LOOKING AT YOU SAW, THE EXORCIST AND PAW PATROL. YOU FCKS)
Nice Che Guevara reference at the end there.
One thing that perplexed me throughout the entire movie is how on earth was the U.S. allowed to commit all of these acts of war without starting an actual war. Also why on Earth did the Republics of New Asia tolerate the U.S. continually violating their airspace.
Something something, Vietnam War allegory, War on Terro allegory, America bad
Loved the movie, didnt understood the hate, the visual is just amazing
The Butlerian Jihad?
I've never heard of this when did it come out or was this another high concept film that got buried by platform exclusivity
Awesome
Hey, can you do the organizations and factions from Legend of the Galactic Heroes ?
You should do Skibidi Toilet for April Fools
2 months into the year whens the series you promised dropping
Can you please do more videos on the aliens franchise please!
Good movie in alot of ways, but the plot was a bit meh.
The AI says its good and that they didnt nuke LA. The main character kinda just takes that at face value, then betrays his country and helps an AI super weapon destroy a space station.
Wish the movie was a bit more naunced and used its fantastic visuals to actually explore the deep moral implications of AI.
Lmao, I kid you not, Mat pat claimed that the entire premise of AI being good in this film. Was chosen as propaganda to make audiences more accepting of the use of AI by these companies in films or whatever.
What fictionnal universe is this one ?
Basically ASEAN+Japan,Butan and Bengaladesh.
Including Bengaladesh is kinda weird cuz culturally different.
Just bought the film after watching this
So in this future, cloud backups don't exist?!
Noted!
They do but the problem from what the movie said was that all AI is there are using a scanned human brain
@@Jr2728 How would that prevent backups?
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem to large and complex to store
Also: Very Large Data like from the Event Horizon Telescope is still stored on tape and brought to one place to compile
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem something about decay with the neuroscan that they do that's when he finds out that the little girl is daughter
What film is this?
The Creator
one of Disney's side projects
if only people could read .......
Not a terrible movie but I had difficulty with the fact that NONE of the New Asia countries had issues with United States entering their sovereign territory with weapons to attack it's citizens. Nomad was so huge that even dumbfired missles or rockets could hit it without much of a guidance system. Even a throw away line where "China tried that... There is no more China" might have been appreciated. I did like the idea that the reason the AI are such crappy shots is because they can't kill humans so every shot is essentially trying to wound them.
exactly!! they just gave the genocidal US soldiers a ride to the city instead. wtf???
and I mean in the end the way they destroyed Nomad was by basically taking a plane up there with no problem and planting a bomb. The kid wasn't even necessary. It just turned the station off for a minute. No group from New Asia tried to just fly there??? funny.
Name the music playing
It was a great movie
What part of England is the narrator's accent from?
It starts with one
Very welcoming nation
This is indeed high fantasy (as in, drunk/drugged high) to think that SEA countries would accept sentient robots into their society and treat them as equals. I mean, imagine robots being treated as equal citizens with equal rights in Malaysia…. Whoever came up with this was high in ketum masak susu musang campur telur terjantan
"... some regions of... Brunei." Curious.
This concept is based on the movie THE CREATOR
Kind of wish they'd called it 'Pan-Asia.'
what about old asia
superseded by the new ai symbiosis